TheJayBoi... in the lower comments, he really said "went from a double-double per game to a triple-double every game..." Now wow.. how much he knows basketball. No one has ever, EVER had a triple double for 5 games, let alone EVERY game. Guy is an encyclopedia of basketball, he is. :)
@nextbestrockstar he's like 6'11... shaq is 7'1 with a 7'8 wingspan... dwight has like a 7'3 wingspan... also dwight better develop some fundamentals otherwise he will have bad knees by the age of 30.
@nextbestrockstar idk about hops equal to lebron james.... shaq was able to still dunk on people in his upper 20's and 30's because size doesn't change. but when you wear down your knees like howard does he will only be able to dunk on "anyone" until he's about 30 then his athleticism will be decreased.
@nextbestrockstar i think your measurements are a tad off my friend. dwight had a 35.5 inch vertical at the 2004 combine (not saying that is his actual vertical, i think it's in the 38-40 inch neighborhood, but not 44) and he's also way closer to 6'11 than he is 7'0. And the reason MJ was still a charged up athlete in his 30's was because he didn't have to jump over everyone all the time to score throughout his younger career. He was one of the best fundamentally and displayed this in scoring
@TheFloppyDog1 well im not exactly sure how accurate the internet page i googled to find these pro players verts is. but its just as reliable as you are, if not more, because they bothered to make a web page. and i meant that MJ still had athleticism in his 30s. he still dunked on people.
Shaq is just a fat overweight center. With little mobility. Wish the lane stuffer just go ahead and retire. Just useless meat hanging out in the lanes. He's pointless. Useless and i wish he would just die already!!! Ok,...lets not go there, but its time for him to go.
its not its the irony of shaq flopping. for years he bitched about getting no calls cus hes bigger and smaller weaker players "with no skill" flopping. now its him against his archrival and him flopping
Dwight's still young. I don't know why people try to compare him to Shaq.
Shaq was a better scorer but Dwight is a better rebounder and shot blocker.
You also have to remember that teams have better schemes to defend big men then they did 5-10 years ago when shaq would just drop step and overpower people.
LOL i totaly agree shaq is not the answer. On paper it looks like it will work but all in all at the end of this season Cavs fans will be completely dissapointed. Unless Boston can stay healthy all year and through the playoff run you will See ORLANDO represent the east once again
yeah, the cavs wont do shit, they'll be the 5th seed next season,kuester (the main coordinater of the offense last season) is now the head coach of the pistons, and sheed-marquis daniels signed with boston, and bass-vince-matt barnes signed with the magic, they are too good, of course the cavs signed shaq-moon (no d)-anthony parker (no D)-lost joe smith to the hawks
Sorry lebron shaq is not the answer. clevelands problem was transition defense last season it is going to be much harder with shaq on the team, now that boston has the big 3 back, and dwight has jameer and vinsanity
HAHAHA its funny how u say kobe own lebron cuz he has 4 ring wen lebron is only 24 but when its shaq who has 4 rings against dwight oh giv him a break he is only 24
Dwight Howard looks little next to Shaq..Shaq best talent was the fact hes 7'3 and the heaviest guy in the league..Howard more like a more atheletic Alonzo Mourning..Dwight is still 4 to 5 years from his prime..He's only going to get better.
You know basketball. I completely agree with you. Alonzo however was pretty athletic when he came in the league, Injuries etc ruined his great career.
Shaq at Howard's age was the heaviest guy in the league, and was more athletic than any center during that time...Alonzo wasn't even as athletic as Robinson or Olajuwon
nope.... i don't really compare players.... jordan was really great during his prime time.... no doubt 'bout it.... but Kobe, Lebron, Wade, Carmelo or other good players wont be this good if it wasn't for Jordan..... so all of them are just great... its just that they show it in a different way....
People stop comparing them! they are both great players! We all know that Shaq dominated the game during his prime time! Dwight howard may not be as a dominant player than Shaq was but Dwight is not yet in his prime time! he still has a lot of time to improve!
Shaq is Shaq
Dwight is Dwight
Dwight can be as strong as shaq was or even better in the future!
he will never become as dominant as shaq cuz dwight is different from shaq.... they have their own way.... dwight is not yet in his prime so he has the capability to become more dominant than Shaq was wether we like it or not....
answer this...Shaq at Dwight's age was more dominant...so technically how is it possible for Dwight to be as dominant as Shaq?
At 24...the same age D.Howard is at now, Shaq was much more developed than Howard...Shaq at 24 came off a NBA Finals series where he averaged 28 ppg to Olajuwon's 32 ppg
There is no such thing as a 'capability' to become more dominant than Shaq..cuz Shaq was more dominant at the same age
Howard has to get through Robinson before he can even touch Shaq
dude... that doesnt even matter...... just becuz shaq was already dominant on age 24 doesnt make him better than Howard..... i dont even care of comparing these people..... sides.... right now shaq sucks....
@genokaihl008 I dont agree that Dwight is not yet in his prime. He depends a lot on his athleticism, which will not increase from the current levels. His body will not last long on the current level of strain. As for the offensive repertoire, I don't see it improving much as well. He's pretty raw and this is his limit I think.
@acotytamwiesz Noooope. He is banking jumpers this year and has improved on his freethrows and he has moved up from a dooubledouble per game to a tripledouble every game. He is still on his way up. He just turned twenty five. Not all atheletes bodys crash and burn at 30. I watched a 70 year old women cross the finishline in a marathon with a better time than a fit 19 year old. It is all how you take care of your body. Look at him!
@genokaihl008 No sorry but Dwight is not and will not be as strong as shaq, shaq was a beast during his prime a mountain of muscles, dwight ist almost 60 lbs away from that.
@Cemal7791 Dwight is not even close to being at his prime, and he already outdid shaq. No comparison. Shaq can rush through people and dunk because he is a tall fatass, but Dwight is definately more fun to watch. Shaq always does the same dunk. Dwight loves to mix it up so you never know what to expect. Shaq was superman, but Dwight is the new and improved superman.
@TheJayboi44 Compare Dwight and Shaq at the same age, compare them as tay both were 21, 22, 23! Where is the evidence that he outdid shaQ? Shaq is tall right, but not fat, Shaq was and is really strong, a fat person can't crush the backbard the way Shaq did. Where is the improvement to Shaq, just words no evidence, if you wanna the see the truth compare their statistics, their averages in scoring, blocks, rebound and u'll get the truth, end of story...
@stefaaaan1820 Huh????? A fat person can't crush the Backboard THE WAY SHAQ DID was the statment, show me a similar example to shaq and i will aggree.
@genokaihl008 wow cry a bit would ya? but seriously why would ANYONE compare two big men who both played center for the same team when they were young, played almost the exact same, and go by the same nick name??? i have no idea
no comparing noob wil always be there and shaq is way beter thats a fact i mean he avarged almost the same numbers as a rokie to what dwight did when he was 25 years old
alot of players back then would not be as great, not to mention there were only 8 teams when the celtics won all those championships in a row. There wasn't as much competion as now or in the 80's.
if it wasnt for players like wilt chamberlin the nba WOULD BE NOTHING TODAY! PEOPLE LIKE SHAQ, DWIGHT HOWARD AND ANYONE ELSE IN THE GAME TODAY SHOULD GIVE THANKS TO THE PLAYERS WHO PAVED THE WAY FOR THEM TO STILL BE PLAYING TODAY! ITS RETARDED TO COMPARE ONE OF THE GREATEST BASKETBALL PLAYERS OF ALL TIME TO TONY BATTIE OR SAMUEL DALEMBERT! CHAMBERLIN IS A LEGEND BOTTOM LINE
r u crayz i dont care if the other players werent tha best wilt was unstoppable averaged more than 50 points in just one season not to mention a 100 point game, the best players of today have had PLENTY of games where there TEAM doesnt score 100
Um...you guys must have not payed attention to the game. On the Magic's very first possession, Shaq blocked Howard's hook shot and Shaq continued to body him and play better that Howard throughout the game.
The media, just like you guys are over-hyping the whole "Shaq is took old" thing.
It was only at the very end of the 4th that the Magic actually took the lead off of the Sun's 3 costly turnovers.
This is a legit play. I don't understand whats so bad about trying to draw a charge. And then that nobody coach is trying to start crap just so he can have his 30 seconds on espn.
Its not drawing a charge. its flopping. NBA Officials said they would beginning this year charge fines to people who flop. I think floppers should be given a foul or a technical foul. Its getting ridiculous. Alot of international players flop. Look at Gasol, Ginobli, Vlade Divac, and many more
Stan Van Jeremy needs to keep his mouth shut until he actually proves himself in the playoffs. All the Magic are good at is jacking up a ton of 3s. They'll be lucky to even get past the 1st round.
"The rules say when a guy goes through your chest youve got to fall to get the call. It was a flop. Youve watched me play for 17 years. I dont play like that."
Baha, I think you guys should look at who had the better stats at the end of the game, and who is the original power from Orlando, DIESEL, doin' it old skool
Nope, shaq's fourth year was in 96 and his last with the magic and obviously didn't get a ring. so yes shaq's BS about no wrings for dwight is obviously weak trash talking. Think of something original shaq!
Shaq manhandled D12 all night he has nothing on the original man of steel. I grew up watching the real nba with the lakers winning their 3-peat and MJ being the GOAT. At this point we are gonna have to satisfy ourselves with the inferior version of Shaq which is D12. Don't rock the S on your chest if you blow in the playoffs such as the Magic getting tossed up by Detroit last year and D12 looking like a rookie getting defended. ANyway my rant is over go SHAQ
Shaq didn't manhandle anyone. In the second half, when the refs stopped calling bogus calls on Howard, he completely outplayed Shaq (17 and 6 for Howard to 11 and 5 for Shaq) and Shaq had to resort to flopping just to try and guard him.
You have to be kidding me your born in 85 and your giving props to D12. You arent real and please Howard was getting gay calls his 3 point play off the Nash foul that was bogus buddy. Please you don't know the concept of being manhandled if you don't agree that Dwight was gettting messed up inside!! And my friend check your stats properly haha 5 points more and 1 more rebound and that is completely outplaying someone haha dude get real
that really wasn't a bogus call. dwight did have foul trouble do to the obvious crap calls by the refs then when he came in he continued to do what he usually does. BEAST. so shaq didn't manhandle anyone and for the sake of argument lets say he did. dwight did his fair share of embarrassing the big flopper. :) if u like shaq thats fine but you can't take away from what dwight did that night. oh and who won the game???? :)
You have got to be kidding me chummer you're trying to get back in a debate that ended 2 days ago. Who won the game who gives a shit !! The Nash foul was bogus period. The big flopper ? My lord you really dont know jack s* about the NBA if you think he's a flopper based on 1 play. He's been getting hacked for a decade plus he's paid his dues 10 fulled. Dwight capitalised off shaq's attempt to take a charge no more no less. Dude. Please. Don't play with grown men and shut your lips
and dude i gave you respect when commenting so at least try and have some kind of common sense and not disrespect me. it makes you look small minded and well kinda sensitive actually. lol
what did the magic do in the playoffs when shaq was there? shaq doesnt have shit on dwight. if you "grew up" watching the lakers and you act like that was "real basketball" you are sorely mistaken. that was fuckin 8 years ago bro, not very long. what are u 12, 13? maybe if u you said you grew uop watchin bird, or jabbar, you could sound credible. but u act like 2001 was way back in the glory days gone by.
im 25 ace what did Shaq do in the playoffs with the Magic ? he made it to the finals againt the rockets and the Dream and he is the last one to have eliminated Michael Jordan in the playoffs when he did so in 1995 genious. I got this locked down. And nevermind bird and all them its MJ anyway. IM a connaisseur friend, do your homework. Shaq doesnt have shit on Dwight ? Please dude he has 4 rings and 6 finals appearances he urinates on Howard. So sorry I had to show you up hahahaha
first of all mr. got this locked down, shaq had a superstart by the name of PENNY HARAWAY. and had home court advantage and they beat the bulls when jordan just came back from first retirment and had only played the last 17 games that season. CONGRATULATIONS. lets give tham a pad in the back and hakeem still made shaq his bitch. and jordans next year after full returne recovery own the shaq and the magic. season and playoffs. dwights 23 and carries team himself I GOT THIS LOCKED DOWN.
akaslowsayone, If Dwight carries his team by himself, why are there 2 all stars besides him to help him out (Rashard Lewis and Jameer Nelson)? Nelson is hurt, but when he was there, he was a big piece. I wouldn't say Dwight carries his team because he has Turkgolu (mispelled), Lewis, Alston, Pietrus, and Nelson to help him out. Shaq, on the other hand, averaged about 28 points and 11 rebounds per game with the Magics.
Shaq had Penny, a great point guard and good shooter, Nick Anderson and Dennis Scott, who were both great 3pt shooters. plus Magic had Horance Grant, who was a real power forward. Im sure Howard will have atleast 25 pt and 15reb a game when he is 25 or 26.
shaq averaged almost 30, and dwight is in a perfect positions for scoring, with lewis and turk at the forwards it is almost impossible to double team him because their such good shooters. Dwight is athletic but doesn't have much offensive game and no post moves.
and for yesturday. If dwight wounld have gotten those stupid calls in the first half. he would of droped a 20-20 games on that overweight fat dude.shaq dint mandhandle no one. dwight mandhandle shaq in the second half. shaq was lucky dwight played like 5 mins the first half.
If you expect anyone to take you seriously how can you disrespect Shaq. Please overwheight you spit on greatness this is sad. And I knew all the facts you attempt to showcase you homo. SHaq was 23 in 1995 when they made it to the finals and Anfernee Hardaway please he was a clear cut sidekick although he was pretty good. And Dwight is everything but alone on the magic team they had 3 all stars this year is that all you got ? I GOT THIS LOCKED DOWN hahahaha
neither one of those magic players are penny hardaway. penny could create his own shot and create shots for others and the only person we have close to being able to create NOW is turk and turk is no where near the level of penny. sorry your argument is extremely flawed but hey we're all entitled to internet opinions. :)
Haha infiltrating another portion of the debate huh. Dude you dont even know Penny Hardaway you're fronting. He was the shit, but they had f*in Scott Skiles at PG and all types of shitty players surrounding them in those days. And Turk is kicking ass what are you talking about. + what do you make of Jameer. 3 all stars and you could have swapped Rashard for Turkoglu easily so arguably 4 all stars. Funny how you try to come off as clever yet its clear your a moron hahahahaha
TheJayBoi... in the lower comments, he really said "went from a double-double per game to a triple-double every game..." Now wow.. how much he knows basketball. No one has ever, EVER had a triple double for 5 games, let alone EVERY game. Guy is an encyclopedia of basketball, he is. :)
Frankyfinch24 7 months ago
shaq >>> howard
Slamr0qu3 8 months ago
I don't think it was a flop, I think Shaq was actually surprised to how much force Howard can produce.
mkfitzge6354 11 months ago
shaq was better in his time. but now nobody can stop this man! last night amare tried. and dwight dominated him. lol
bimbim333 1 year ago
Shaq seemed to fall over to easily as of he was looking for the foul ???
walshy2kaii8 1 year ago
dwight a pussy nigger
cumoneverybody1 1 year ago
shaq isa funny player
ferrarimaster101 1 year ago
It's the NBA any good player flops
TexasSportsNation 1 year ago
dwight has better hops. he has like a 40" vert and hes like 7' tall. he can dunk on anyone.
nextbestrockstar 1 year ago
@nextbestrockstar he's like 6'11... shaq is 7'1 with a 7'8 wingspan... dwight has like a 7'3 wingspan... also dwight better develop some fundamentals otherwise he will have bad knees by the age of 30.
TheFloppyDog1 1 year ago
@TheFloppyDog1 and? dwight will dunk on anyone and anything. hes a 6'11" with hops equal to lebron james.
dwight is the dunk machine.
nextbestrockstar 1 year ago
@nextbestrockstar idk about hops equal to lebron james.... shaq was able to still dunk on people in his upper 20's and 30's because size doesn't change. but when you wear down your knees like howard does he will only be able to dunk on "anyone" until he's about 30 then his athleticism will be decreased.
TheFloppyDog1 1 year ago
@TheFloppyDog1 dwight howard's vertical leap is 44". which is the same as lebron james.
and 44" for a 7 footer is unheard of. and we'll see about the knees wearing down thing. MJ dunked on people in his 30s.
nextbestrockstar 1 year ago
@nextbestrockstar i think your measurements are a tad off my friend. dwight had a 35.5 inch vertical at the 2004 combine (not saying that is his actual vertical, i think it's in the 38-40 inch neighborhood, but not 44) and he's also way closer to 6'11 than he is 7'0. And the reason MJ was still a charged up athlete in his 30's was because he didn't have to jump over everyone all the time to score throughout his younger career. He was one of the best fundamentally and displayed this in scoring
TheFloppyDog1 1 year ago
@TheFloppyDog1 well im not exactly sure how accurate the internet page i googled to find these pro players verts is. but its just as reliable as you are, if not more, because they bothered to make a web page. and i meant that MJ still had athleticism in his 30s. he still dunked on people.
nextbestrockstar 1 year ago
@nextbestrockstar Agreed. Superman flys. Shaq barely has to hop when he dunks. I say Shaq is the Hulk.
TheJayboi44 1 year ago
Nice soccer flop, Shaq. You should be ashamed.
Zabbai 1 year ago
hhhhhhhhhhoooooww.....! A NEW HISTORY....!
exoye777 1 year ago
@jaman987654321
haha true
seanag11 1 year ago
Shaq is just a fat overweight center. With little mobility. Wish the lane stuffer just go ahead and retire. Just useless meat hanging out in the lanes. He's pointless. Useless and i wish he would just die already!!! Ok,...lets not go there, but its time for him to go.
KobeSpawn 1 year ago
I don't see why this dunks so great
seanag11 1 year ago
its not its the irony of shaq flopping. for years he bitched about getting no calls cus hes bigger and smaller weaker players "with no skill" flopping. now its him against his archrival and him flopping
janitormopmop 1 year ago
@seanag11 u pay when u flop
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nathanielgibbs63 1 year ago
He got dunked on
UKNOWBREEZE 1 year ago
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johnsmithe7967 1 year ago
lol shaq cant be knocked down because of one tiny shoulder shove.
MrRevolt10 2 years ago
Dwight's still young. I don't know why people try to compare him to Shaq.
Shaq was a better scorer but Dwight is a better rebounder and shot blocker.
You also have to remember that teams have better schemes to defend big men then they did 5-10 years ago when shaq would just drop step and overpower people.
kimbohimself 2 years ago
Dwight is the new kid in town but dont sleep on Brook Lopez
TheHNIC88 2 years ago
aint nobody dunkin on shaq head-on its a brick wall lmao!
although jordan did when shaq was a rookie! but now, aint nobody boomin on diesel :)
maytinkerblast 2 years ago
Go look up Derrick Coleman youngblood.
pointsur 2 years ago
LOL i totaly agree shaq is not the answer. On paper it looks like it will work but all in all at the end of this season Cavs fans will be completely dissapointed. Unless Boston can stay healthy all year and through the playoff run you will See ORLANDO represent the east once again
and i believe Denver out the west
SaleenFocusS121 2 years ago
i think shaq wants to make a charge.
a494517519 2 years ago
yeah, the cavs wont do shit, they'll be the 5th seed next season,kuester (the main coordinater of the offense last season) is now the head coach of the pistons, and sheed-marquis daniels signed with boston, and bass-vince-matt barnes signed with the magic, they are too good, of course the cavs signed shaq-moon (no d)-anthony parker (no D)-lost joe smith to the hawks
1263161 2 years ago
Sorry lebron shaq is not the answer. clevelands problem was transition defense last season it is going to be much harder with shaq on the team, now that boston has the big 3 back, and dwight has jameer and vinsanity
benzo2529 2 years ago 2
HAHAHA its funny how u say kobe own lebron cuz he has 4 ring wen lebron is only 24 but when its shaq who has 4 rings against dwight oh giv him a break he is only 24
2pactheking400 2 years ago
never thought id see the day shaq flop he really is getting old
jaron312 2 years ago
In my eyes, Shaq is the guy who plows you down down low and Dwight is the speedy and athletic one.
They are two different kinds of centers, with different ways of playin.
quiksilverboy31 2 years ago
KOBE OWNS LEBRON
m2daVICK 2 years ago 2
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UR A FAG..
LEBRON OWNS KOBE
TMon3y810 2 years ago
ur a stupid bitch.
Four rings (going on five)
Zero rings (going on negative 1 for signing Shaq's fat ass)
TheAnomaly24 2 years ago 2
Dwight Howard looks little next to Shaq..Shaq best talent was the fact hes 7'3 and the heaviest guy in the league..Howard more like a more atheletic Alonzo Mourning..Dwight is still 4 to 5 years from his prime..He's only going to get better.
XsaviorIsKing 2 years ago 4
You know basketball. I completely agree with you. Alonzo however was pretty athletic when he came in the league, Injuries etc ruined his great career.
versastyle3 2 years ago 2
stop cheating!!
Shaq's only 7'1
Howard is 6'11 or 7'0
not that much of a difference
shaq's much wider and heavier though
vietorkorean 2 years ago
thats what they are listed but shaq has at least 3 inches on howard.
friedricemonster 2 years ago
Shaq at Howard's age was the heaviest guy in the league, and was more athletic than any center during that time...Alonzo wasn't even as athletic as Robinson or Olajuwon
oneman91 2 years ago
nope.... i don't really compare players.... jordan was really great during his prime time.... no doubt 'bout it.... but Kobe, Lebron, Wade, Carmelo or other good players wont be this good if it wasn't for Jordan..... so all of them are just great... its just that they show it in a different way....
genokaihl008 2 years ago
People stop comparing them! they are both great players! We all know that Shaq dominated the game during his prime time! Dwight howard may not be as a dominant player than Shaq was but Dwight is not yet in his prime time! he still has a lot of time to improve!
Shaq is Shaq
Dwight is Dwight
Dwight can be as strong as shaq was or even better in the future!
so just stop comparing those two!
genokaihl008 2 years ago 31
funny
Shaq at 24 was 29ppg and 11rpg compared to Howard who rounds out at 20ppg 13rpg
truth is, Howard will never become as dominant as Shaq
oneman91 2 years ago 4
he will never become as dominant as shaq cuz dwight is different from shaq.... they have their own way.... dwight is not yet in his prime so he has the capability to become more dominant than Shaq was wether we like it or not....
genokaihl008 2 years ago 4
answer this...Shaq at Dwight's age was more dominant...so technically how is it possible for Dwight to be as dominant as Shaq?
At 24...the same age D.Howard is at now, Shaq was much more developed than Howard...Shaq at 24 came off a NBA Finals series where he averaged 28 ppg to Olajuwon's 32 ppg
There is no such thing as a 'capability' to become more dominant than Shaq..cuz Shaq was more dominant at the same age
Howard has to get through Robinson before he can even touch Shaq
oneman91 2 years ago
dude... that doesnt even matter...... just becuz shaq was already dominant on age 24 doesnt make him better than Howard..... i dont even care of comparing these people..... sides.... right now shaq sucks....
genokaihl008 2 years ago
Dwight can't even touch Shaq's rookie year and your telling me he can be better than Shaq?
First Dwight needs more than one post move because Ewings running hook is getting repetitive.
Shaq and Tim Duncan have been the most dominant bigs of this generation and Dwight Howard simply doesn't measure up.
GoldynChyld238 2 years ago 2
truth is, howard will never be a fucking dump truck who can run over anybody and carry every time he tries to do a post move without getting called
asdflolw123 2 years ago
so true...hahaha
I'd take the dump truck that can run over everybody...lol
oneman91 2 years ago
@oneman91 So your logic is that because Shaq had an extra 4ppg over Howard, therefore he is more dominant
gabrielleung 1 year ago
4 ppg? try 10 ppg
Dwight hasn't even cracked 25 ppg yet
And yes Shaq was more dominant at 24 than Dwight...if u've seen Shaq you wouldn't be asking me this right now...just read over my previous post
oneman91 1 year ago
@genokaihl008 shaq was a monster..dewight will never be stronger than shaq
cavsfan786 1 year ago
@cavsfan786 BIG DEAL i don't fuckin' care cuz i don't compare the two like u do! so STFU!
genokaihl008 1 year ago
@genokaihl008 I dont agree that Dwight is not yet in his prime. He depends a lot on his athleticism, which will not increase from the current levels. His body will not last long on the current level of strain. As for the offensive repertoire, I don't see it improving much as well. He's pretty raw and this is his limit I think.
acotytamwiesz 1 year ago
@acotytamwiesz Noooope. He is banking jumpers this year and has improved on his freethrows and he has moved up from a dooubledouble per game to a tripledouble every game. He is still on his way up. He just turned twenty five. Not all atheletes bodys crash and burn at 30. I watched a 70 year old women cross the finishline in a marathon with a better time than a fit 19 year old. It is all how you take care of your body. Look at him!
TheJayboi44 1 year ago
@genokaihl008 finally someone who understands
DumbNinja5239512 1 year ago
@genokaihl008 Yeah... people always compare different players. I just think that Howard is like Shaq back in the day... BEAST!
tigermack 1 year ago
@genokaihl008 No sorry but Dwight is not and will not be as strong as shaq, shaq was a beast during his prime a mountain of muscles, dwight ist almost 60 lbs away from that.
Cemal7791 1 year ago
@Cemal7791 Dwight is not even close to being at his prime, and he already outdid shaq. No comparison. Shaq can rush through people and dunk because he is a tall fatass, but Dwight is definately more fun to watch. Shaq always does the same dunk. Dwight loves to mix it up so you never know what to expect. Shaq was superman, but Dwight is the new and improved superman.
TheJayboi44 1 year ago
@TheJayboi44 Compare Dwight and Shaq at the same age, compare them as tay both were 21, 22, 23! Where is the evidence that he outdid shaQ? Shaq is tall right, but not fat, Shaq was and is really strong, a fat person can't crush the backbard the way Shaq did. Where is the improvement to Shaq, just words no evidence, if you wanna the see the truth compare their statistics, their averages in scoring, blocks, rebound and u'll get the truth, end of story...
Cemal7791 1 year ago
@Cemal7791 a fat person can´t crush the backboard?
look up tractor traylor.
shaq was actually the strongest center of all time if you ask me,but hes average now.
dwight is the real deal for the next 10 years.
stefaaaan1820 11 months ago
@stefaaaan1820 Huh????? A fat person can't crush the Backboard THE WAY SHAQ DID was the statment, show me a similar example to shaq and i will aggree.
Cemal7791 11 months ago
@genokaihl008 Dwight will be so much better when he is at his prime. People say Shaq at his prime. What so he sucks now?
TheJayboi44 1 year ago
@genokaihl008 wow cry a bit would ya? but seriously why would ANYONE compare two big men who both played center for the same team when they were young, played almost the exact same, and go by the same nick name??? i have no idea
xMxYxSxTxIxKxAxLx 10 months ago
@genokaihl008
no comparing noob wil always be there and shaq is way beter thats a fact i mean he avarged almost the same numbers as a rokie to what dwight did when he was 25 years old
lbj6mj23 6 months ago
Chamberlain in nowdays would be better than Tonny Battie, Dalembert,... but not too much,.
It is known that he was not a killer and he was not a hard player
davidrbl 2 years ago
alot of players back then would not be as great, not to mention there were only 8 teams when the celtics won all those championships in a row. There wasn't as much competion as now or in the 80's.
darthbentley 2 years ago
if it wasnt for players like wilt chamberlin the nba WOULD BE NOTHING TODAY! PEOPLE LIKE SHAQ, DWIGHT HOWARD AND ANYONE ELSE IN THE GAME TODAY SHOULD GIVE THANKS TO THE PLAYERS WHO PAVED THE WAY FOR THEM TO STILL BE PLAYING TODAY! ITS RETARDED TO COMPARE ONE OF THE GREATEST BASKETBALL PLAYERS OF ALL TIME TO TONY BATTIE OR SAMUEL DALEMBERT! CHAMBERLIN IS A LEGEND BOTTOM LINE
chickenjeff86 2 years ago
Queer!
aprilmarco 2 years ago
r u crayz i dont care if the other players werent tha best wilt was unstoppable averaged more than 50 points in just one season not to mention a 100 point game, the best players of today have had PLENTY of games where there TEAM doesnt score 100
djade14 2 years ago
WOW! In Shaq's face!
softballgrl798 2 years ago
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001shapz001 2 years ago
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KOBE BRyANT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
JDizzleMcskizzle 2 years ago
dwight is like the prime shaq...shaq could shoot low range jumpers...look at his videos
karney3 2 years ago
Dwight can never be, what Shaq use to be.
JSEProduction 2 years ago
dwight is only 23 he has lots of time to improve. They both got there team to the finals at the same age and shaq did not have a jumper at first.
darthbentley 2 years ago
What, you think Dwight will be shooting 3 pointers?lol.
JSEProduction 2 years ago
Since when does jumpers mean 3's.
darthbentley 2 years ago
I really doubt that Dwight will even be shooting mid range jumpers.
JSEProduction 2 years ago
he just needs to develop some other consistent way to score other than dunking and he'll be even better
Dasherflip 2 years ago
is it me or does shaq seem like a bad veteran to have on your team
kevinbone08 2 years ago 5
I thought he said "was that a block"
yeah if it happened to a smaller guy it could've been an offensive foul
kzdavis1000 2 years ago
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kzdavis1000 2 years ago
fault attack
apodo6 2 years ago
Shaq is a giant baby, and Van Gundy is a douche bag. Who cares.
lcromy 2 years ago
giant baby!??! chya right he will eat you mother fucker!
mayonnaisehater13 2 years ago 12
BIGGEST FLOPPER IS THAT DUDE W/ THE WHITE GUY FRO ON THE CAVS...verajo is a douch
KegzillaAK 2 years ago 5
Seriously. I couldn't agree more. He doesn't even follow through. As soon as he hears the whistle, he immediately jumps back up. That little bastard.
RiaFlow 2 years ago 2
yo man it looks like dwight howard stepped on shaq's foot when he spun and forced him to fall cuz he was trying to back up look at :06
bbcicecream8231 2 years ago
no... he flopped... Shaq himself admitted that he flopped. This is the only time I've ever seen him flop though.
drunkenmonkey1 2 years ago 2
Um...you guys must have not payed attention to the game. On the Magic's very first possession, Shaq blocked Howard's hook shot and Shaq continued to body him and play better that Howard throughout the game.
The media, just like you guys are over-hyping the whole "Shaq is took old" thing.
It was only at the very end of the 4th that the Magic actually took the lead off of the Sun's 3 costly turnovers.
AllN1TE 2 years ago
Shaq is a complete legend and we all must respect him for all the moments and the memories.
Dwight is great but still hasn't Shaq's career. Still loads to show to be compared to big old dog.
leeky78 2 years ago
he still really young, i think hell be bigger than shaq
johnyaplseed 2 years ago
wat r u kidding me? no one will ever b as big as shaq was especially in his prime
Menhim21 2 years ago
i wouldnt say that, it might not be dwight but shaq is not basketballs most dominate center
johnyaplseed 2 years ago
hes the second one only chamberlain was most dominate than him
XxFortMiNoRxX 2 years ago
so Bill Russell and Kareem not on your list or something?
mastersbk 2 years ago
dwight is good, but shaq will always be better as of right now.
qclakers 2 years ago
"Always be better as of right now"? That makes no sense at all.
Steeveriffic 2 years ago 3
This is a legit play. I don't understand whats so bad about trying to draw a charge. And then that nobody coach is trying to start crap just so he can have his 30 seconds on espn.
SkrateBaggin 2 years ago
Its not drawing a charge. its flopping. NBA Officials said they would beginning this year charge fines to people who flop. I think floppers should be given a foul or a technical foul. Its getting ridiculous. Alot of international players flop. Look at Gasol, Ginobli, Vlade Divac, and many more
mcrorlandofan3 2 years ago
Gasol? your shitting me, Ginobli is the biggest flopping bitch in the NBA
FunkaDunka 2 years ago
D. Howard is now officialy the best big man.
hydroa2s1 2 years ago 4
Yes...The tourch was passed on that play.
kimtime 2 years ago
shaq's scared cause dwight howard is the first guy to challenge him
ramones951 2 years ago
what a fat whiny girl stalking bitch
marco437 2 years ago
What an embarassment. Shaq is too goddamn big to be flopping. That's a bitch way tp play defense.
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ComfyChairTV 2 years ago
Shaq is the Beast Fuck all envy's
RAdy3234 2 years ago
shaq is a beast in the post..but the man has attitude problems and he thinks the world revolves around him
pc360 2 years ago
i think he flopped cause he knew he was about to get dunked on
nlbball44 2 years ago
Shaq needs to learn from the Utah Jazz on the art of flopping...
samuraiyao 2 years ago 2
hahhahaha I agree that and play rough defense, reach and slap at people arms attempting to hit the ball, then flop like kirelenko
then to top it all off have jerry sloan yell at the refs to get a T for not getting calls even though the jazz foul like 10 times a play on defense.
MikaOwns 2 years ago
if shaq falls, 99 percent of the time it's going to be a flop haha..
TheRevolutionary465 2 years ago
agree
koolmankoolman 2 years ago
he was trying to draw a charge ppl!! stop hate'n on diesel
jayfay786 2 years ago
SHAQ SUCKS BALL COCKAS
majiicpu3D 2 years ago
Get up and play like a man. you are like old Lion. you know when the Lion got old,his tooth is useless, he can't harm anyone. you are an Old Lion mr:
amareto35 2 years ago
Stan Van Jeremy needs to keep his mouth shut until he actually proves himself in the playoffs. All the Magic are good at is jacking up a ton of 3s. They'll be lucky to even get past the 1st round.
k0ugar 2 years ago
you mean van gundy. And I'm not a magic fan but they have a good chance to win.
wildcat2362 2 years ago
I wish Shaq would go in the stands and knock some of them dumbass Sun's fans for attempting to support them
DothefreakinDEW 2 years ago
dis nigga can fuck Shaq's pussy ass
chimon1982 2 years ago
Shaq's quote:
"The rules say when a guy goes through your chest youve got to fall to get the call. It was a flop. Youve watched me play for 17 years. I dont play like that."
chefawkes 2 years ago 3
he was also the one that said "I have played every level of basketball except college and pro."
varmansnr 2 years ago
shaq admitted it was a flop. he;s just a really bad actor.
chefawkes 2 years ago
Shaq Didnt flop at all, Dwight is just strong
grandthousand23 2 years ago
Dwight being compared to shaq in his prime while dwight is ONLY 23. He will be better than Shaq. soon.
Silenced0417 2 years ago
no he wont
WonderBread006 2 years ago
real talk bro
milesleg 2 years ago
Baha, I think you guys should look at who had the better stats at the end of the game, and who is the original power from Orlando, DIESEL, doin' it old skool
falsagma 2 years ago
Shaq is a plague to the NBA. Dwight is a great player on the court and doesn't cause everyone in the locker room to hate him.
treydyer10 2 years ago
That was weak as HELL, Shaq!!!!!!!!!
rokslide 2 years ago
He really shouldn't have blasted van Gundy for calling him on it. Coach was right. But I really don't think of Shaq as a flopper, other than that....
det19rw08 2 years ago
Shaq does an obvious flop, then goes ballistic at stan van gundy for accurately calling him on it. The Big Baby not Glenn Davis.
mclev 2 years ago
Dwight Howard is just a manchild
DTDB1225 2 years ago
Shaq. Flop. Knows he can't hang with Howard.
jflinn210 2 years ago
this is like a duke blue devils highlight video (from shaqs perspective that is)
chrish1023 2 years ago
shouldve asked for some flopping lessons from robert horry or manu ginobli
davidly27 2 years ago
obviously its a flop it would take the whole magic team to get shaq down lolz
torontoraptorsnba 2 years ago
Lol! leave flopping to the pro's shaq :P
spaghettiosftw 2 years ago
hmmmm.
shaq- 4 nba titles dwight-0
shaq-1 mvp dwight-0
shaq-3 finals mvp dwight-0
shaq better. who agrees?
2007nbachamps 2 years ago
Shaq is 13 years older.
kulza23 2 years ago
rite now no 7 years ago yes. dude dwight has only been in league about 4 years. i'm not sure but i dont think shaq got a ring at 4 years either.
davidly27 2 years ago
Nope, shaq's fourth year was in 96 and his last with the magic and obviously didn't get a ring. so yes shaq's BS about no wrings for dwight is obviously weak trash talking. Think of something original shaq!
mattc941 2 years ago
hey, WAS better.
age has caught up to him.
Re5olvE 2 years ago
robert horry have 7 rings
is he better than shaq? no he aint
001shapz001 2 years ago
lol, i still love shaq
gtkoolie 2 years ago
i agree shaq made dwight look like a little boy until he started tiring in the 4th. I'd hate to think what a prime shaq would do to Dwight.
friskyfixedit 2 years ago
that's what I'M talking about man thank you
milesleg 2 years ago
if shaq falls down, you know its a flop
R0nnieBoy 2 years ago
LOL
xleax 2 years ago
It's called a charge you dumbfucks.
AZDemon 2 years ago
Shaq The Big AriFlopper
loso24 2 years ago 2
shaq's gone soft
kingtipz 2 years ago
Shaq manhandled D12 all night he has nothing on the original man of steel. I grew up watching the real nba with the lakers winning their 3-peat and MJ being the GOAT. At this point we are gonna have to satisfy ourselves with the inferior version of Shaq which is D12. Don't rock the S on your chest if you blow in the playoffs such as the Magic getting tossed up by Detroit last year and D12 looking like a rookie getting defended. ANyway my rant is over go SHAQ
milesleg 2 years ago
Shaq didn't manhandle anyone. In the second half, when the refs stopped calling bogus calls on Howard, he completely outplayed Shaq (17 and 6 for Howard to 11 and 5 for Shaq) and Shaq had to resort to flopping just to try and guard him.
msholland85 2 years ago
You have to be kidding me your born in 85 and your giving props to D12. You arent real and please Howard was getting gay calls his 3 point play off the Nash foul that was bogus buddy. Please you don't know the concept of being manhandled if you don't agree that Dwight was gettting messed up inside!! And my friend check your stats properly haha 5 points more and 1 more rebound and that is completely outplaying someone haha dude get real
milesleg 2 years ago
that really wasn't a bogus call. dwight did have foul trouble do to the obvious crap calls by the refs then when he came in he continued to do what he usually does. BEAST. so shaq didn't manhandle anyone and for the sake of argument lets say he did. dwight did his fair share of embarrassing the big flopper. :) if u like shaq thats fine but you can't take away from what dwight did that night. oh and who won the game???? :)
truthspeaks01 2 years ago
You have got to be kidding me chummer you're trying to get back in a debate that ended 2 days ago. Who won the game who gives a shit !! The Nash foul was bogus period. The big flopper ? My lord you really dont know jack s* about the NBA if you think he's a flopper based on 1 play. He's been getting hacked for a decade plus he's paid his dues 10 fulled. Dwight capitalised off shaq's attempt to take a charge no more no less. Dude. Please. Don't play with grown men and shut your lips
milesleg 2 years ago
and dude i gave you respect when commenting so at least try and have some kind of common sense and not disrespect me. it makes you look small minded and well kinda sensitive actually. lol
truthspeaks01 2 years ago
what did the magic do in the playoffs when shaq was there? shaq doesnt have shit on dwight. if you "grew up" watching the lakers and you act like that was "real basketball" you are sorely mistaken. that was fuckin 8 years ago bro, not very long. what are u 12, 13? maybe if u you said you grew uop watchin bird, or jabbar, you could sound credible. but u act like 2001 was way back in the glory days gone by.
TheDozer5 2 years ago
im 25 ace what did Shaq do in the playoffs with the Magic ? he made it to the finals againt the rockets and the Dream and he is the last one to have eliminated Michael Jordan in the playoffs when he did so in 1995 genious. I got this locked down. And nevermind bird and all them its MJ anyway. IM a connaisseur friend, do your homework. Shaq doesnt have shit on Dwight ? Please dude he has 4 rings and 6 finals appearances he urinates on Howard. So sorry I had to show you up hahahaha
milesleg 2 years ago
first of all mr. got this locked down, shaq had a superstart by the name of PENNY HARAWAY. and had home court advantage and they beat the bulls when jordan just came back from first retirment and had only played the last 17 games that season. CONGRATULATIONS. lets give tham a pad in the back and hakeem still made shaq his bitch. and jordans next year after full returne recovery own the shaq and the magic. season and playoffs. dwights 23 and carries team himself I GOT THIS LOCKED DOWN.
akaslowsayone 2 years ago
akaslowsayone, If Dwight carries his team by himself, why are there 2 all stars besides him to help him out (Rashard Lewis and Jameer Nelson)? Nelson is hurt, but when he was there, he was a big piece. I wouldn't say Dwight carries his team because he has Turkgolu (mispelled), Lewis, Alston, Pietrus, and Nelson to help him out. Shaq, on the other hand, averaged about 28 points and 11 rebounds per game with the Magics.
idkmybffALEXXX 2 years ago
um what about penny hardaway
stanshin510 2 years ago
What about Penny Hardaway? I never said Shaq carried the Magics. I'm just saying he puts up way more stats then Dwight did.
idkmybffALEXXX 2 years ago
Shaq had Penny, a great point guard and good shooter, Nick Anderson and Dennis Scott, who were both great 3pt shooters. plus Magic had Horance Grant, who was a real power forward. Im sure Howard will have atleast 25 pt and 15reb a game when he is 25 or 26.
humanimal1738 2 years ago
shaq averaged almost 30, and dwight is in a perfect positions for scoring, with lewis and turk at the forwards it is almost impossible to double team him because their such good shooters. Dwight is athletic but doesn't have much offensive game and no post moves.
WonderBread006 2 years ago
and for yesturday. If dwight wounld have gotten those stupid calls in the first half. he would of droped a 20-20 games on that overweight fat dude.shaq dint mandhandle no one. dwight mandhandle shaq in the second half. shaq was lucky dwight played like 5 mins the first half.
akaslowsayone 2 years ago
If you expect anyone to take you seriously how can you disrespect Shaq. Please overwheight you spit on greatness this is sad. And I knew all the facts you attempt to showcase you homo. SHaq was 23 in 1995 when they made it to the finals and Anfernee Hardaway please he was a clear cut sidekick although he was pretty good. And Dwight is everything but alone on the magic team they had 3 all stars this year is that all you got ? I GOT THIS LOCKED DOWN hahahaha
peace
milesleg 2 years ago
neither one of those magic players are penny hardaway. penny could create his own shot and create shots for others and the only person we have close to being able to create NOW is turk and turk is no where near the level of penny. sorry your argument is extremely flawed but hey we're all entitled to internet opinions. :)
truthspeaks01 2 years ago
Haha infiltrating another portion of the debate huh. Dude you dont even know Penny Hardaway you're fronting. He was the shit, but they had f*in Scott Skiles at PG and all types of shitty players surrounding them in those days. And Turk is kicking ass what are you talking about. + what do you make of Jameer. 3 all stars and you could have swapped Rashard for Turkoglu easily so arguably 4 all stars. Funny how you try to come off as clever yet its clear your a moron hahahahaha
Shut your lips son
milesl