Christians in all seriousness are not christian. They don't believe the god of the bible, and they don't do "what jesus would do." It's just comfortable for them, and it gives them an excuse to hold on to other stupid attitudes. Notice no one is trying to outlaw blowjobs even though that is also sodomy. Only the sodomy they think is icky is bad. The bible is only relevant to Christians when it's convenient.
Ask a christian to define god and they start to sound an awful lot like a pantheist.
The Christians who define god the way he's actually described in the bible are considered nut jobs by most other "Christians." All I'm saying is some people want something to believe in, and instead of actually making their own decision about which is the best god / religion for there actual beliefs they just call themselves "Christian," because it's easier mentally and socially.
@hoodmilk Yeah. Yavhe in the bible is kind of cruel xD
But you're right, I called/calls myself a christian because I admire and want to follow Jesus's teachings. Still, I've studied buddhism, nordic mythology, native, greek mythology, a bit daoism and new age. Unlike most people in my church I'm positive and open minded to most ways, even atheism. xD I've accepted Jesus in my life, so that makes me a christian, but really, I'm more of an agnostic who is inspired by alot of diferent beliefs.
@warmsteel Also the reason most books that we now collectively refer to as the Apocrypha, were rejected was because they contained blatantly obvious chronological, historical, geographical, or doctrinal errors. They weren't "voted out" by a group of negotiators in some smoke filled room or something.
@warmsteel "There are the apocrypha - the un-canonised parts of the bible that did'nt made it into the bible because of the counsil of Nicea." The Council of Nicea had nothing to do with biblical canonization. The Bible had already been set in place for hundreds of years prior to its convening. We know this because of the surviving letters of the early church fathers.
some religions use the music and ecstasy (like the Hare Krishnas who dance in bliss) or even drugs (like shamanic traditions and the rastas) as a resource to produce religious experiences. they appropriate the other sources of bliss.
Interesting concept, and also has some validity. People want something to make them "feel better", or they want to get something out of it. It's not the complete picture, however. The common teaching of what is called main stream "Christianity" is that Jesus did it all for you, so you don't have to change anything. If it feels good, do it, because Jesus paid the price.
This, however, is in stark contrast to what the Bible actually teaches. And your arguments are based on their same false ideas.
You are wrong one place, "emo´s" don´t cut themselfs because of getting a rush, it´s depressionbased and a cry for help, not a hunger after a rush, you can say that about extreme bodiepiercing where they hang themselfs in their skin, else some good points! agree that music can have some big euforical results and it´s the godfigure that seperates different ways of achieving the same result! If you believe, do it, just don´t let other tell you what to believe in!
That's actually a very good way of putting it. It's like marketing - you have to show your product as irreplaceable, and all other rivals - useless.
I often love discussing with believers on religion, so I'd like to hear their oppinion on this. Because ANYTHING that you WANT to do repeatedly is an addiction, even if you don't feel this uncontrollable urge, you're still thinking "Damn, I'd like to [insert action/ritual]", and since religion denounces many things, that's like competing dealers. 5*
yes very much so an the sad thing is that the younger a person is intruduced to religion the harder it is to get off it. the fact is if everyone was given a change to mentaly grow to the age of 18 or so with out religion pple would c how much of a joke it is. to people like me who wer not forced feed religioin to me all religions are like zeus an athena, mythology and trying to have any sort of talk about religion with these people go no were. with n 5 mins i crush religious peopls ideals from?s
Oh, and I almost forgot. Darren Brown, on the last episode of one of his trick or treat shows, he did the pigeon/superstition experiment with humans. It was terribly interesting. Yay for social experiments.
But I was always under the impression that Marx's quote was more about how religion (as an entity) prevents humanity from moving forward, as a species, just as opium prevents pain from moving forward through the CNS, by attaching to opioid receptors. Its an inhibitor
I didn't think he was referring to a direct 'addiction' to religion, as people would become addicted to opiates, although both interpretations make sense and I would deem them both as apt
And I ran out of characters before, but I don't want you to take this as trying to start a disagreement....I will admit that I could be wrong, that was just my interpretation of that Marx statement.
I've also heard people slightly modify it, like:
"belief is an opiate to thought".....My interpretation came more from that particular quote, than the Marx quote verbatim.
I like how you put it, and dont worry about starting a disagreement, thats how progress is made, through healthy debate, its not like we're fundementalists or something xD
wow,you really explained that well! I remember going to worship services as a kid ,where people would get really emotional and all of that.I like how you explained it as a drug.That must be true because all the people I remember growing up with in church were able to get really into the worship music and say they''felt the Lords presence''but if you were to ask them a simple question about why they really believe it,they just went kind of blank.
I saw the vid, and I'll quote what someone else said about it.
"the sun rising is not "faith", as faith is belief in things unseen. This is seen repeated throughout time. It is a rational, logical, reasonable conclusion - not 'faith' - that the sun will rise tomorrow."
Also, this whole concept of sensory limit is completely hypothetical, speculative, and lacks supporting evidence. And just because we can't explain phenomenons does not mean that they are not rooted in science.
Atheism is the drug of people who's central nervous system has not evolved far enough to enable them to comprehend dependent arising and unborn awareness. They can comprehend anthropomorphism (which is why that is what they are most capable of negating) but are not capable of panentheistic or nontheistic cognition. In ancient times they are the ones who worshiped idols but now that science has opened their minds to that fallacy they are still not able to go beyond images and concepts. Sad.
I'm not even going to try and explain why I said that to someone incapable of conceiving of anything but an anthropomorphic God or a God "outside" the Universe and then rightfully denying the only thing you are capable of conceiving. You're fighting your own imaginary God. I've tried to explain that many times and atheists in general are simply too stupid to understand anything beyond rudimentary science.
You may well be the exception to the rule, but then you should be able to find out why I made that statement by yourself. Nobody can convince you but yourself from your own direct experience.
You say that "atheists" in specific cannot conceive of anything but an anthropomorphic God. I'm not sure how this applies specifically to atheists, and not the people who practice religion, who base their entire faith on an anthropomorphic God.
Secondly, ability or inability to "comprehend" such a being goes nowhere to proving its existence. Atheism is not a drug. It's a reality check, formed on the basis of scientific evidence. Why believe in a God if you have no proof of it?
Let me rephrase, most atheists and most believers in some or other god cannot etc.
Science provides limited models of reality that does not exhaust reality as such and all scientific theories are built on axioms (unprovable statements) and is therefor essentially also a system of belief, which most atheists are reluctant to accept because they mostly believe that they don't believe but know, when they do actually believe and don't know.
"all scientific theories are built on axioms (unprovable statements)"
....That makes no sense.
"and is therefor essentially also a system of belief"
No. It is not. Dude. Science involves the search of facts. Whether you believe it or not, gravity is a fact. Whether you believe it or not, helium makes balloons float. Scientific hypothesis' form up what we know of our surrounding environment. You can't just reduce it to some religious belief.
Well you are obviously unshakably convinced of your belief. If you are open-minded you will understand what I mean if you watch :"Paul Davies on an Ultimate Explanation" here on YouTube. One mistaken assumption he himself makes is that the word God designates something outside the Universe which is why he rejects its use. By the way, I'm a panentheist gnostic so please don't confuse my conviction with that of the kind of theisms you are used to dealing with.
The fact that Christians don't ALWAYS practice what they preach is the whole point of Christianity...
We are flawed.
Now I will agree that some people take it to extremes. Such as the people going against gays... since that is just a misinterpreted portion of the Bible.
Though I do love this video :) It's really well-thought out and sparks debate, which is always important.
In my opinion, you can't truly have faith in something unless you doubt it.
Basic psychoanalysis of religion: Aversion to pleasure; guilt. Same as the psychopath.
They get a rush out of denouncing sexual pleasure and it becomes taboo. Behind closed doors, they are doing everything they speak against in abundance. Because it is taboo, it heightens the experience. This of course doesn't occur in all cases, some people actually become deathly afraid of sexual pleasure.
honestly i want to thank you and the amazing atheist...
although i am a christian and i do believe in the God of the bible.
what you both say is completely true. Christians do not practice what they preach...
but there are some who do. all i would ask is that you dont base your view not on christians who dont follow the bible and are hypocritical but on those who actually follow the bible
Mat 25:41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, DepartG4198 from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
Rev 21:1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
Religon is nuts lol Faith is pure. To love your family is of god. to help feed someone who has noone is of god. to hope good things for people is god. God love us all and he loves this guy too he will see that he has more in comin with the big man upstairs then he thinks. Faith will save you. your hope will save and the most important your heart when god is ...
The drug of atheism causes these cult members for that belief to believe that an "infinitesimal dot" exploded one day and then all the complexity and design of life evolved from that.
There is not a word to describe how sad these people are.
"But I tell you that anyone who is angry with his brother[b]will be subject to judgement. Again, anyone who says to his brother, 'Raca' is answerable to the Sanhedrin. But anyone who says, 'You fool!' will be in danger of the fire of hell."
Also, we can say the same thing "The fool says, These is no Allah". And how is not believing in God illogical (im assuming u mean that because ur saying we need to be dull in the mind to not see it). You believe theres a deity in heaven who popped out of nowhere and made earth and sends people to eternal torture. And Satan is omnipotent and all powerful (hes always there to tempt us) yet hes weaker than God... Satan is winning the fight cuz Christianity is still less than a sixth of the pop.
lol to be honest hell would prob be more interesting than heaven.
Heaven: full of righteous things like churches and christians, etc.
Hell: video games, non-abstinent girls;), 14a and up movies, etc. And evil people like murderers cant kill us again so whats the harm? ;)
Seriously though, if hell is eternal torture that is literally the most screwed up shit possible (worse than rape murder, etc). And from an all-loving God?
Brief, accurate and to the point. The world needs more people willing to sit down and record these lessons for the masses. You're not a carpenter by any chance are you? haha.
be meth :and there was meth. And God saw the meth, and it was good. Seriously, you need to lighten up many Christians are free thinkers and believers in evolution. Many of us believe in a non literal translation meaning in the Bible.
This guy makes a very valid point. Coming from an ex-christian (now athiest) myself I can say that what he describes is true, to an extent. I have to say thought that people believe in religion/god mostly due to their upbringing. Those who weren't raised with religion and come into it tend to be the 'drug addict' religious types that Peter describes here. It is really hard to quantify how believing in god feels, even I find it hard and I believed in god completely not too long ago. Strange.
But "something you heve to feEl in your heart is just like drink white rum and yOu'll try anything. Iwas just convinced to trry cutting by an E-mail buddy .. my arm is sore now. It's a stamge feeling. Endorphines apparently. Apparently this is what some relgious fanatica feel when they are "religious" too. it's like a quick hit of booze or possibly drugs. And they et that hitvevery time they spread the "message"
I think you're right in general, but with Jesus, He wants faith. I don't why, but that's what he wants. I know you don't believe me, but it's the truth.
After all the stuff I've read about Jesus, it would make me wonder also. Look, I am a Christian because I have had all these incredible things happen to me. The Man is real. I'm not kidding. He must have lived, like it says. I don't do church, and I stay away from most Christians, because they irritate me. But because of my experiences, healings, rescues, I'm telling you, the Man is real. Not to be a pain, but it wouldn't hurt to search a little, you know.
I don't care what the books say. Below, I have stated that I don't read the Bible. I'm just telling you that Jesus is a real man. I had incredible experiences with Him, when I went on my spiritual quest, before, and after. I don't expect you to believe me. I really don't. I'm on the wrong channel for that, huh! Just for the record, He is real, and instead of spending all your time proving He is not real, maybe do some research. Use your intuition. Think about who U R, and why you're here.
I don't do drugs sweetheart. I've 58. I don't drink either. What I do, is say rasaries, pray, and try to understand what is going on. Our breathing rhythms are attuned to this reality. Alter that breathing rhythm, and get glimpses of the real world. I went on a spiritual quest, and had incredible experiences. He said, "Ask you will receive." "Seek, and you will find." I did, and He kept His Word. He's real. If I were you, I wouldn't insult Him. You might be real sorry.
You keep saying you don't read the bible but you believe in a character only present in the bible. On several occasions you even demand he is real because of these "experiences", frankly it's laughable.
The reason we strive to prove these things dont exist my friend, is because there is NO evidence to the contrary. The real answer to who we are and why we're here won't be found in baseless faith, so we strive eliminate foolishness like yours so we can find the real answers.
How do I get through? How old are you, 22ish? What do you know about life? Not much, I'd say. I don't have baseless faith. I've been in the same room with the man called Jesus. I saw His sandals, and white tunic or robe. I was granted that, when I finished my last rosary. I've also lived with a ghost. My ex-husband and old girlfriend will attest to that. There is a spirt world. That's what we really are. You are on the wrong track buddy. I hope life teaches you "something." You're wrong.
I may be 22 as you gathered looking at my profile but I have obviousley seen more of life than a ..... how old are you in the REAL WORLD? 14? 15 tops.... any way, I have quite obviousley seen more to life than you ever likley will if you need to make up wild stories about meeting a FICTIONAL character.
I can only hope you come to your senses, grow up realise YOU ARE WRONG and stop wasting your life on this foolishness.
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I'm 58, and smoke cigarettes. That's it. I don't drink. I am telling you, from my direct experiences, that Jesus Christ is real. I have been healed, and rescued by Him, more than once. I also know that the Trinity is real. Guess how I know that? I'm 58, done extensive work on finding truth, and I wasn't looking for Jesus. You are 22, and have done nothing. Who has more evidence here? Me. I'm not delusional. I am just reporting what I've seen, and experienced. Just don't reject this.
I reject your pathetic fantasys altogether, you're pushing them on everyone with NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER or even a plausible story for that matter.
As I said, I may be 22, but I've done more with my life than you could ever imagine doing. Besides, it's more than likley you aren't even 16 yet from the way you're acting.
Done extensive work on finding the truth? so what's that eh? smoke crack and listen to a pastor?
Grow up and live in the real world or do us a favour and leave.
Religion is a set of rules, rituals, et cetera. I've already told you a few times, that this is not where I am coming from. How about finding your own evidence? You expect this to be handed to you on a silver platter. That isn't the way it works. HE is strict. You want proof, then get off your dead ass, and search, ask for guidance, work hard, and you might have the privilage of His presence. From what I've seen so far, you're taking the easy way out. Self-honesty is part of the path.
Why exacly would I go in search of someone who doesn't exist?
You're preaching that I get of my arse look for evidence that just doesn't exist. You think I came to that conclusion by not doing anything about it?
I think maybe your the one who needs to look at his life is you belle. There's obviousley something missing if you need to provide baseless impobable stories with no evidence to justify yourself.
@TheSupremeSkeptic No. There are the apocrypha - the un-canonised parts of the bible that did'nt made it into the bible because of the counsil of Nicea. The Gospel of Thomas, for example, or the gospel of Mary Magdalene which reamins only as a few verses, even 14 gospels in THIBET and alot of history in Iran, Kashmir and India about Jesus (although in Iran and Kashmir Jesus is called Yus Assaf, mening 'leader of the healed'.
In India and Thibet he was called Issa or Isa. Jesus existed.
Svara på det här videoklippet... Research the apocrypha and search for "Thibetan Gospel" in google if you don't belive me. Also, even the most sceptical, serious, non-christian scholar who've done all the research have to conclude that Yeshua, or someone like him existed. Type in the quest for historical Jesus, search Jesus in Kashmir, the Jesus Seminary (Serious non-christian scholars who search for the historical Jesus).
I challenge you to do that. I'm not a christian, but agnostic.
I believe that Sam Harris (who has spent time with Buddhist monks and learning their secrets of spirituality) is currently studying spirituality at Stanford for his PhD in Neuroscience.
A winner is he, in my opinion. Religion has claimed spirituality as it's own for too long.
Another reason for religion's persistence is the way our brain evolved. Have you heard of the correlation between temporal lobe epilsepsy and visions/religious experience? Some people claim the growth of the frontal lobe and our consequent "consciousness" of our own death led to the growth of these areas. (Also some are pointing to the areas of the parietal lobe as well).
You're right, I was at a Judas Priest concert and there were other bands that night, when Priest was about te begin our bones and muscles were aching and weak, but the music began and I felt immortal. It was beautiful.
My feeling tonight is that athiests are starting to bore the shit out of me. How much work have you done to find, seek, prove God? All I see is tons of work to disprove God. If you seek God, He assists you, like he did me. I don't belong to any churches, or belief systems because they irritate the hell out of me. Jesus is real. He speaks and understands English also. There is a spirit world, and this whole planet is one test after another. Pride is not entertaining, is a vice, and a bore.
Yes Jesus did "commit suicide" but there was a gigantic purpose behind it, and His motives were to give others life so there would be no death! When humans do it more often then not, it is motivated from selfish reasons.
So there are purposes by wich suicide can be accepted? the bible says nothing about these purposes so maybe we just should interpret what we think is a accepted suicide?
And what exactly do you mean "there would be no death"? First off all, in this life, there still is death. And if you meant in the afterlife, wasn't that allready free from death to begin with? I mean, isn't that the whole point of eternal life?
And besides he didn't sacrifice too much if he's immortal anyway bcz he can't die.
I've tried to come up with a good arguement for these nuerological reactions ppl get from religion, but i could never put it into a nice little package like this video. Nice one Tooltime. You hit the nail right on the head. Subscribed.
he is totally right. I was a very strong christian until my husband died. People told me to seek solace in religion, but I found it was impossible. How could there be a god if he took away the only thing I had going for me? my childhood sucked ass, and then to take away the only good thing that had happened in my life to that point? pretty fucked up. the night he died, I prayed harder and longer than I have every prayed for anything for him to be healed. Nature overruled.
Christians believe in their own individual idea of god. If you get down to the brass tacks of what they truly believe about god, it hardly ever matches the god of the bible.
i'm not really sure if you and TJ actually disagree on your major points, maybe you only disagree on semantics. but in the end i agree with your message here, and from what i know of TJ he would too.
A disturbed young person offering nothing but disparging, erroneous, opinions regarding Christianity, on Christmas Eve. The prsentation lacks both veracity and tact.
actually, he presented a lot of things supporting his position. you, however, are the one who has said nothing new and are just proving his point.
your comment lacks veracity and tact. your religion lacks veracity and tact. your imperialistic religion offers contradicting, erroneous opinions about human behaviour and even get multiple holidays, recognized almost all over the world. we have to put up with your erroneous opinions shoved in our faces, all year long.
'Noticed this to be a simple repetition of a previous comment, in some context meant to be accepted as more valid, i.e. a Christian describing an atheist speaking for the worldview of all Christians contrasted with the statement of the above.
I think religion is a tribal initiation ,its truth is irrelevant ,its adherence is often demanded to remain part of that group .
as to whether or not individual members of the group ,tribe , cult ,believe in the factual validity of the tribes doctrine ,is irrelevant for they seek to be a group members they are not seeking the truth .
Religion is a highly evolved and self-interested meme. The fact that today's popular religions are so evolved is the reason why atheists have such difficulty in trying to show people the religions are false. A religion that couldn't or didn't adapt to skepticism would fade away. The largest religions have not only acquired means of resisting tests for truthfulness, but have also evolved means of effectively spreading themselves to other minds.
I think you are as absolutist as any believer I have ever met... You are a twin brother to the believers.... so funny, nIetzche would probably think.
ironicjesus 2 months ago
could you please explain your "belief" in neuro chemicals? have you ever yourself, seen a neuro-chemical? I ask you as a "religious non-believer".
ironicjesus 2 months ago
churches take advantage of controlling people thru religions
danieladamko 1 year ago
It is not accurate to call religion a "drug" one could argue that religion is a recreational drug.
Could then I conclude that since religion is a drug, and atheists reject religion, that atheists also reject drugs?
Treefrogs2 1 year ago
@Treefrogs2 no, just that atheists reject THAT drug. Just because I don't smoke, could you therefore infer that I don't drink?
Muzikman127 10 months ago
"Religion is the opium of the people"
Karl Marx
iownage4youi 1 year ago
... why is Christianity a pleasant world view?
fashionbug312 1 year ago
What about religions that are driven by substance use?
Daruqe 1 year ago
Christians in all seriousness are not christian. They don't believe the god of the bible, and they don't do "what jesus would do." It's just comfortable for them, and it gives them an excuse to hold on to other stupid attitudes. Notice no one is trying to outlaw blowjobs even though that is also sodomy. Only the sodomy they think is icky is bad. The bible is only relevant to Christians when it's convenient.
Ask a christian to define god and they start to sound an awful lot like a pantheist.
hoodmilk 1 year ago
@hoodmilk Hmm.... I think you are over generalising a little bit.... there are millions of christians around the world, do you know all of them?
warmsteel 10 months ago
@warmsteel Of course I'm generalizing.
The Christians who define god the way he's actually described in the bible are considered nut jobs by most other "Christians." All I'm saying is some people want something to believe in, and instead of actually making their own decision about which is the best god / religion for there actual beliefs they just call themselves "Christian," because it's easier mentally and socially.
hoodmilk 10 months ago
@hoodmilk Yeah. Yavhe in the bible is kind of cruel xD
But you're right, I called/calls myself a christian because I admire and want to follow Jesus's teachings. Still, I've studied buddhism, nordic mythology, native, greek mythology, a bit daoism and new age. Unlike most people in my church I'm positive and open minded to most ways, even atheism. xD I've accepted Jesus in my life, so that makes me a christian, but really, I'm more of an agnostic who is inspired by alot of diferent beliefs.
warmsteel 10 months ago
@warmsteel Also the reason most books that we now collectively refer to as the Apocrypha, were rejected was because they contained blatantly obvious chronological, historical, geographical, or doctrinal errors. They weren't "voted out" by a group of negotiators in some smoke filled room or something.
theabiotictheory 9 months ago
@warmsteel "There are the apocrypha - the un-canonised parts of the bible that did'nt made it into the bible because of the counsil of Nicea." The Council of Nicea had nothing to do with biblical canonization. The Bible had already been set in place for hundreds of years prior to its convening. We know this because of the surviving letters of the early church fathers.
theabiotictheory 9 months ago
This video is wrong in so many ways. If religion = drug to some people....those people missed the point (at least fom a Christian perspective).
hexusziggurat 1 year ago
Get a life!
WRBaffler 1 year ago
@WRBaffler he's using youtube for one of its porposes,to share opinions,your using it for the same reoson by telling him to ''get a life''
gC222SA 1 year ago
some religions use the music and ecstasy (like the Hare Krishnas who dance in bliss) or even drugs (like shamanic traditions and the rastas) as a resource to produce religious experiences. they appropriate the other sources of bliss.
BoricuaChiTown 1 year ago
@BoricuaChiTown True. Organized religion tends to either shun, or monopolize on pleasurable practices for the same reason.
hoodmilk 1 year ago
Dude lay off the drugs
greenhornet123 1 year ago
Interesting concept, and also has some validity. People want something to make them "feel better", or they want to get something out of it. It's not the complete picture, however. The common teaching of what is called main stream "Christianity" is that Jesus did it all for you, so you don't have to change anything. If it feels good, do it, because Jesus paid the price.
This, however, is in stark contrast to what the Bible actually teaches. And your arguments are based on their same false ideas.
Thistlesifter220 1 year ago
You are wrong one place, "emo´s" don´t cut themselfs because of getting a rush, it´s depressionbased and a cry for help, not a hunger after a rush, you can say that about extreme bodiepiercing where they hang themselfs in their skin, else some good points! agree that music can have some big euforical results and it´s the godfigure that seperates different ways of achieving the same result! If you believe, do it, just don´t let other tell you what to believe in!
SkeksisBestSongEver 1 year ago
Very good point!
terrycloth97 1 year ago
I'm a misanthrope and I like what you say though. >_>
NostaligicBlackFrost 1 year ago
Religion is not a drug.... it's placebo
RazielKain 1 year ago
haha in communism were saying this. Religion is drug to the nations. And they gave the nations other kind of drugs...
By the way all is drug. Music is drug. Dance is drug. Love is drug.
sergiomarchelli 1 year ago
dont mistake 'God' with something outside u
u are two the you and the changeble ego u..
"he who knows me knows the father he who knows the father never dies"
u, see a coward dies a thousand deaths a 'soldier' dies but once..same thing..
RaymGhost 1 year ago
Its funny when you try to use big words tool.
You said "tool kit" huh tool?
KingDingaLing090 1 year ago
That's actually a very good way of putting it. It's like marketing - you have to show your product as irreplaceable, and all other rivals - useless.
I often love discussing with believers on religion, so I'd like to hear their oppinion on this. Because ANYTHING that you WANT to do repeatedly is an addiction, even if you don't feel this uncontrollable urge, you're still thinking "Damn, I'd like to [insert action/ritual]", and since religion denounces many things, that's like competing dealers. 5*
GallopingPints 2 years ago
yes very much so an the sad thing is that the younger a person is intruduced to religion the harder it is to get off it. the fact is if everyone was given a change to mentaly grow to the age of 18 or so with out religion pple would c how much of a joke it is. to people like me who wer not forced feed religioin to me all religions are like zeus an athena, mythology and trying to have any sort of talk about religion with these people go no were. with n 5 mins i crush religious peopls ideals from?s
oldfryrice 2 years ago
hmmm... i haven't seen this tooltime video before. i liked the comparison of rock music and sex to rival drug dealers. it was quite well put.
TehCybernerd 2 years ago
Oh, and I almost forgot. Darren Brown, on the last episode of one of his trick or treat shows, he did the pigeon/superstition experiment with humans. It was terribly interesting. Yay for social experiments.
b3rtne 2 years ago 3
I dont need religion for euphoria. I have cocaine and pain killers. Fantastic video by the way.
b3rtne 2 years ago
You are sooo right....
6alexa6gothic6 2 years ago 2
I believe Karl Marx put it correctly comrade, religion is the opium of the people, and this video is a testament to that, keep up the good work!
comradericardo 2 years ago
I fully agree with the thesis of this video.
But I was always under the impression that Marx's quote was more about how religion (as an entity) prevents humanity from moving forward, as a species, just as opium prevents pain from moving forward through the CNS, by attaching to opioid receptors. Its an inhibitor
I didn't think he was referring to a direct 'addiction' to religion, as people would become addicted to opiates, although both interpretations make sense and I would deem them both as apt
frankgrimesAKAgrimey 2 years ago
And I ran out of characters before, but I don't want you to take this as trying to start a disagreement....I will admit that I could be wrong, that was just my interpretation of that Marx statement.
I've also heard people slightly modify it, like:
"belief is an opiate to thought".....My interpretation came more from that particular quote, than the Marx quote verbatim.
frankgrimesAKAgrimey 2 years ago
I like how you put it, and dont worry about starting a disagreement, thats how progress is made, through healthy debate, its not like we're fundementalists or something xD
comradericardo 2 years ago
wow,you really explained that well! I remember going to worship services as a kid ,where people would get really emotional and all of that.I like how you explained it as a drug.That must be true because all the people I remember growing up with in church were able to get really into the worship music and say they''felt the Lords presence''but if you were to ask them a simple question about why they really believe it,they just went kind of blank.
birdfish55 2 years ago
I saw the vid, and I'll quote what someone else said about it.
"the sun rising is not "faith", as faith is belief in things unseen. This is seen repeated throughout time. It is a rational, logical, reasonable conclusion - not 'faith' - that the sun will rise tomorrow."
Also, this whole concept of sensory limit is completely hypothetical, speculative, and lacks supporting evidence. And just because we can't explain phenomenons does not mean that they are not rooted in science.
jasonpalth 2 years ago
when I got on this vid I just finished watching tooltime on tv.
aaronkehl 2 years ago
Atheism is the drug of people who's central nervous system has not evolved far enough to enable them to comprehend dependent arising and unborn awareness. They can comprehend anthropomorphism (which is why that is what they are most capable of negating) but are not capable of panentheistic or nontheistic cognition. In ancient times they are the ones who worshiped idols but now that science has opened their minds to that fallacy they are still not able to go beyond images and concepts. Sad.
MattheusDaniel 2 years ago
"they are the ones who worshiped idols"
Before you say things like this, please look up the definition of "Atheism."
jasonpalth 2 years ago
I'm not even going to try and explain why I said that to someone incapable of conceiving of anything but an anthropomorphic God or a God "outside" the Universe and then rightfully denying the only thing you are capable of conceiving. You're fighting your own imaginary God. I've tried to explain that many times and atheists in general are simply too stupid to understand anything beyond rudimentary science.
MattheusDaniel 2 years ago
You may well be the exception to the rule, but then you should be able to find out why I made that statement by yourself. Nobody can convince you but yourself from your own direct experience.
MattheusDaniel 2 years ago
You say that "atheists" in specific cannot conceive of anything but an anthropomorphic God. I'm not sure how this applies specifically to atheists, and not the people who practice religion, who base their entire faith on an anthropomorphic God.
Secondly, ability or inability to "comprehend" such a being goes nowhere to proving its existence. Atheism is not a drug. It's a reality check, formed on the basis of scientific evidence. Why believe in a God if you have no proof of it?
jasonpalth 2 years ago
Let me rephrase, most atheists and most believers in some or other god cannot etc.
Science provides limited models of reality that does not exhaust reality as such and all scientific theories are built on axioms (unprovable statements) and is therefor essentially also a system of belief, which most atheists are reluctant to accept because they mostly believe that they don't believe but know, when they do actually believe and don't know.
MattheusDaniel 2 years ago
"all scientific theories are built on axioms (unprovable statements)"
....That makes no sense.
"and is therefor essentially also a system of belief"
No. It is not. Dude. Science involves the search of facts. Whether you believe it or not, gravity is a fact. Whether you believe it or not, helium makes balloons float. Scientific hypothesis' form up what we know of our surrounding environment. You can't just reduce it to some religious belief.
jasonpalth 2 years ago
Well you are obviously unshakably convinced of your belief. If you are open-minded you will understand what I mean if you watch :"Paul Davies on an Ultimate Explanation" here on YouTube. One mistaken assumption he himself makes is that the word God designates something outside the Universe which is why he rejects its use. By the way, I'm a panentheist gnostic so please don't confuse my conviction with that of the kind of theisms you are used to dealing with.
MattheusDaniel 2 years ago
Lookit all dem votebotting.
helbovine 2 years ago
The fact that Christians don't ALWAYS practice what they preach is the whole point of Christianity...
We are flawed.
Now I will agree that some people take it to extremes. Such as the people going against gays... since that is just a misinterpreted portion of the Bible.
Though I do love this video :) It's really well-thought out and sparks debate, which is always important.
In my opinion, you can't truly have faith in something unless you doubt it.
mastae 2 years ago
you got way to much time to go on and on about this fuckin nonsense
madcuzimFLAGRENT 2 years ago
Basic psychoanalysis of religion: Aversion to pleasure; guilt. Same as the psychopath.
They get a rush out of denouncing sexual pleasure and it becomes taboo. Behind closed doors, they are doing everything they speak against in abundance. Because it is taboo, it heightens the experience. This of course doesn't occur in all cases, some people actually become deathly afraid of sexual pleasure.
ScottJanssen 2 years ago
yknow ive always thought that.
the orgasm is the greatest rival to religion because theres that feeling of completeness.
and if people were allowed to just fuck eachother all day long, thered be no need for heaven and christian "rock"
Ilikenuman 2 years ago
this might be my all-time favorite video on religion.
jaydogg7253 2 years ago
honestly i want to thank you and the amazing atheist...
although i am a christian and i do believe in the God of the bible.
what you both say is completely true. Christians do not practice what they preach...
but there are some who do. all i would ask is that you dont base your view not on christians who dont follow the bible and are hypocritical but on those who actually follow the bible
Yukanag 2 years ago
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I love hearing atheists attempt to explain faith and spirituality. Its like a circus chimp attempting to explain neurobiology.
dkshotwell 2 years ago
You think that's bad, try listening to a theist attempting to explain anything.
preachingsin 2 years ago 3
see thats just bitchy and immature. do any theists appreciate healthy debate?
ezmereldagreen 2 years ago 3
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Calling people "brainless" on your sites comments section, would that be an example of "healthy debate" hmmm?. Hypocrite.
dkshotwell 2 years ago
Crappy analogy is crap.
lyncher88 2 years ago
well most atheists used to be theists themselves. so yes we can relate to theists very easily,.
Ilikenuman 2 years ago 4
You should try to smack your lips less.
RoulfYelrab 2 years ago
I watch horror films because I always laugh my ass off when I do :P
Even as a kid I wasn't afraid of horror films, I liked them.. all though I had nightmares of care bears.
pienipaha 2 years ago
Mat 25:41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, DepartG4198 from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
Rev 21:1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
valu777 2 years ago
ive read revelations many times and have to say i think he'd been messing with the mushies!!!!
ezmereldagreen 2 years ago
My friend says you're really cute lol.
yakker21 2 years ago
Religon is nuts lol Faith is pure. To love your family is of god. to help feed someone who has noone is of god. to hope good things for people is god. God love us all and he loves this guy too he will see that he has more in comin with the big man upstairs then he thinks. Faith will save you. your hope will save and the most important your heart when god is ...
nachoKamacho666 2 years ago
@nachoKamacho666 is your god non religious?
warmsteel 10 months ago
religion is wanky bollocks !
Ferris030 2 years ago 3
great video. you articulate arguments quite well.
good stuff
exitskaterjeff 2 years ago
Fucking epic win video tbh.
AisforAtheism 2 years ago
This guy is fighting with his own reality and it shows.
NotSoFastFella 2 years ago
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The drug of atheism causes these cult members for that belief to believe that an "infinitesimal dot" exploded one day and then all the complexity and design of life evolved from that.
There is not a word to describe how sad these people are.
NotSoFastFella 2 years ago
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NotSoFastFella 2 years ago
Atheism is a drug of the mind that dulls the mind of the fact that God created all people.
Ironic how these guys accuse us of all they are really guilty of!
What insanity they are in.
"The fool ( moron ) says, There is no God."
No truer words have been said.
NotSoFastFella 2 years ago
"The fool ( moron ) says, There is no God.
No truer words have been said. "
Matthew 5:22:
"But I tell you that anyone who is angry with his brother[b]will be subject to judgement. Again, anyone who says to his brother, 'Raca' is answerable to the Sanhedrin. But anyone who says, 'You fool!' will be in danger of the fire of hell."
Follow your Bible buddy.
Aaberg123 2 years ago
"The fool says there is no Flying Spaghetti Monster"
Please seek out his noodliness.
RAmen.
Scotracer 2 years ago 26
@Scotracer ramen brother
FlyinSpaghettiMnstr7 1 year ago
My bible is Science, so yes. I will believe in my bible equivalent to your silly bible, that was written by man...
Neenatooke 2 years ago
Context buddy. See who I replied to.
Anyone who says "Fool" to someone else will go to hell, which is funny, because the Christian nutters tend to use the old phrase:
"The fool says, There is no God." over and over again.
Aaberg123 2 years ago
Also, we can say the same thing "The fool says, These is no Allah". And how is not believing in God illogical (im assuming u mean that because ur saying we need to be dull in the mind to not see it). You believe theres a deity in heaven who popped out of nowhere and made earth and sends people to eternal torture. And Satan is omnipotent and all powerful (hes always there to tempt us) yet hes weaker than God... Satan is winning the fight cuz Christianity is still less than a sixth of the pop.
metaitachi 2 years ago
world filled with christians would be worst than "hell"
Masterzec 2 years ago 4
lol to be honest hell would prob be more interesting than heaven.
Heaven: full of righteous things like churches and christians, etc.
Hell: video games, non-abstinent girls;), 14a and up movies, etc. And evil people like murderers cant kill us again so whats the harm? ;)
Seriously though, if hell is eternal torture that is literally the most screwed up shit possible (worse than rape murder, etc). And from an all-loving God?
metaitachi 2 years ago 6
Dude I only go for girls 14 and younger
Sqirril 2 years ago
@Masterzec why?
WRBaffler 1 year ago
I eat handfuls of meth
SkullsforKhorne 3 years ago
what a bunch of crappy-ola.
ManFaded 3 years ago
Brief, accurate and to the point. The world needs more people willing to sit down and record these lessons for the masses. You're not a carpenter by any chance are you? haha.
More please.
pglove 3 years ago
And God said, Let there
be meth :and there was meth. And God saw the meth, and it was good. Seriously, you need to lighten up many Christians are free thinkers and believers in evolution. Many of us believe in a non literal translation meaning in the Bible.
misterogers 3 years ago 2
true.. thanks for the videos
luxunity 3 years ago 2
Hypnosis or religion. Which is which?
stevepalmerssolid 3 years ago
Religion is the desperate human response to being alive and having to die. Its as simple as that.
adrianvdb 3 years ago 4
god aint no drugs. cuz drugs dont make drugs. and god made meth n that shitzz tight. eat dat shit up and praise the sweet lord.
mohamedbongfish 3 years ago
This guy makes a very valid point. Coming from an ex-christian (now athiest) myself I can say that what he describes is true, to an extent. I have to say thought that people believe in religion/god mostly due to their upbringing. Those who weren't raised with religion and come into it tend to be the 'drug addict' religious types that Peter describes here. It is really hard to quantify how believing in god feels, even I find it hard and I believed in god completely not too long ago. Strange.
jessicaR4bbit 3 years ago 4
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wat the fuck is this world comming too?? queers... abortion... athistism...
anallikka 3 years ago
Those three things have always been around.
porterquarter19 3 years ago 2
and dats why tha worls shiiittay!
mohamedbongfish 3 years ago
Just a comment from a drunken pillock,
bloodyrediron 3 years ago
But "something you heve to feEl in your heart is just like drink white rum and yOu'll try anything. Iwas just convinced to trry cutting by an E-mail buddy .. my arm is sore now. It's a stamge feeling. Endorphines apparently. Apparently this is what some relgious fanatica feel when they are "religious" too. it's like a quick hit of booze or possibly drugs. And they et that hitvevery time they spread the "message"
bloodyrediron 3 years ago
a few notes . . .
this dude tooltime . . . is hip
if religion is a drug, then is is a shitty drug . . . all stems and twigs
religion is shit
reality if for big boys . . . jesus is for babies
gotta go . . .
Jaymz
weeeendog 3 years ago 3
I think I'd still rather have a spliff of just twigs and stems than have religion dude. So don't insult the twigs and stems dam it.
:p
bloodyrediron 3 years ago
do meth.
mohamedbongfish 3 years ago
good point!
rebirthatthefountain 3 years ago
WHY THE HELL DO YOU THINK THE TWELVE STEPS WORK SO WELL???
we get that bible, cook it up and bang it in mainline. jesus straight to the brain baby....
the7thwreck 3 years ago
I think that believing is stupid.
People need to stop saying "I believe that" and start saying "I think that".
TheSupremeSkeptic 3 years ago
I think you're right in general, but with Jesus, He wants faith. I don't why, but that's what he wants. I know you don't believe me, but it's the truth.
Belle19700 3 years ago
I don't think Jesus wants anything because I don't think Jesus was ever real even as a human let alone the son of God.
TheSupremeSkeptic 3 years ago
After all the stuff I've read about Jesus, it would make me wonder also. Look, I am a Christian because I have had all these incredible things happen to me. The Man is real. I'm not kidding. He must have lived, like it says. I don't do church, and I stay away from most Christians, because they irritate me. But because of my experiences, healings, rescues, I'm telling you, the Man is real. Not to be a pain, but it wouldn't hurt to search a little, you know.
Belle19700 3 years ago
There is only one book that says that there was a man named Jesus. That one book is called the Bible.
It is only one book.
There needs to be many different books that say he is real, but there isn't.
TheSupremeSkeptic 3 years ago 5
I don't care what the books say. Below, I have stated that I don't read the Bible. I'm just telling you that Jesus is a real man. I had incredible experiences with Him, when I went on my spiritual quest, before, and after. I don't expect you to believe me. I really don't. I'm on the wrong channel for that, huh! Just for the record, He is real, and instead of spending all your time proving He is not real, maybe do some research. Use your intuition. Think about who U R, and why you're here.
Belle19700 3 years ago
You had a spiritual quest?
There are no such things as spirits.
You were probably hallucinating from all the drugs you are taking.
TheSupremeSkeptic 3 years ago 2
I don't do drugs sweetheart. I've 58. I don't drink either. What I do, is say rasaries, pray, and try to understand what is going on. Our breathing rhythms are attuned to this reality. Alter that breathing rhythm, and get glimpses of the real world. I went on a spiritual quest, and had incredible experiences. He said, "Ask you will receive." "Seek, and you will find." I did, and He kept His Word. He's real. If I were you, I wouldn't insult Him. You might be real sorry.
Belle19700 3 years ago
You keep saying you don't read the bible but you believe in a character only present in the bible. On several occasions you even demand he is real because of these "experiences", frankly it's laughable.
The reason we strive to prove these things dont exist my friend, is because there is NO evidence to the contrary. The real answer to who we are and why we're here won't be found in baseless faith, so we strive eliminate foolishness like yours so we can find the real answers.
bloodyrediron 3 years ago
How do I get through? How old are you, 22ish? What do you know about life? Not much, I'd say. I don't have baseless faith. I've been in the same room with the man called Jesus. I saw His sandals, and white tunic or robe. I was granted that, when I finished my last rosary. I've also lived with a ghost. My ex-husband and old girlfriend will attest to that. There is a spirt world. That's what we really are. You are on the wrong track buddy. I hope life teaches you "something." You're wrong.
Belle19700 3 years ago
How many drugs do you take mate? seriousley.
I may be 22 as you gathered looking at my profile but I have obviousley seen more of life than a ..... how old are you in the REAL WORLD? 14? 15 tops.... any way, I have quite obviousley seen more to life than you ever likley will if you need to make up wild stories about meeting a FICTIONAL character.
I can only hope you come to your senses, grow up realise YOU ARE WRONG and stop wasting your life on this foolishness.
BTW
Have a nice day.
bloodyrediron 3 years ago
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I'm 58, and smoke cigarettes. That's it. I don't drink. I am telling you, from my direct experiences, that Jesus Christ is real. I have been healed, and rescued by Him, more than once. I also know that the Trinity is real. Guess how I know that? I'm 58, done extensive work on finding truth, and I wasn't looking for Jesus. You are 22, and have done nothing. Who has more evidence here? Me. I'm not delusional. I am just reporting what I've seen, and experienced. Just don't reject this.
Belle19700 3 years ago
I reject your pathetic fantasys altogether, you're pushing them on everyone with NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER or even a plausible story for that matter.
As I said, I may be 22, but I've done more with my life than you could ever imagine doing. Besides, it's more than likley you aren't even 16 yet from the way you're acting.
Done extensive work on finding the truth? so what's that eh? smoke crack and listen to a pastor?
Grow up and live in the real world or do us a favour and leave.
bloodyrediron 3 years ago
Religion is a set of rules, rituals, et cetera. I've already told you a few times, that this is not where I am coming from. How about finding your own evidence? You expect this to be handed to you on a silver platter. That isn't the way it works. HE is strict. You want proof, then get off your dead ass, and search, ask for guidance, work hard, and you might have the privilage of His presence. From what I've seen so far, you're taking the easy way out. Self-honesty is part of the path.
Belle19700 3 years ago
Why exacly would I go in search of someone who doesn't exist?
You're preaching that I get of my arse look for evidence that just doesn't exist. You think I came to that conclusion by not doing anything about it?
I think maybe your the one who needs to look at his life is you belle. There's obviousley something missing if you need to provide baseless impobable stories with no evidence to justify yourself.
bloodyrediron 3 years ago
@TheSupremeSkeptic No. There are the apocrypha - the un-canonised parts of the bible that did'nt made it into the bible because of the counsil of Nicea. The Gospel of Thomas, for example, or the gospel of Mary Magdalene which reamins only as a few verses, even 14 gospels in THIBET and alot of history in Iran, Kashmir and India about Jesus (although in Iran and Kashmir Jesus is called Yus Assaf, mening 'leader of the healed'.
In India and Thibet he was called Issa or Isa. Jesus existed.
warmsteel 10 months ago
Svara på det här videoklippet... Research the apocrypha and search for "Thibetan Gospel" in google if you don't belive me. Also, even the most sceptical, serious, non-christian scholar who've done all the research have to conclude that Yeshua, or someone like him existed. Type in the quest for historical Jesus, search Jesus in Kashmir, the Jesus Seminary (Serious non-christian scholars who search for the historical Jesus).
I challenge you to do that. I'm not a christian, but agnostic.
warmsteel 10 months ago
I believe that Sam Harris (who has spent time with Buddhist monks and learning their secrets of spirituality) is currently studying spirituality at Stanford for his PhD in Neuroscience.
A winner is he, in my opinion. Religion has claimed spirituality as it's own for too long.
SkepticalAtheist 3 years ago
"Religion is the opiate of the masses" -Karl Marx
godlessbob 3 years ago
I think I agree with that, but God/Jesus are/is still real.
Belle19700 3 years ago
No.
krimsatan 3 years ago
have you read the whole passage?
TheBiophiliacBright 3 years ago
Another reason for religion's persistence is the way our brain evolved. Have you heard of the correlation between temporal lobe epilsepsy and visions/religious experience? Some people claim the growth of the frontal lobe and our consequent "consciousness" of our own death led to the growth of these areas. (Also some are pointing to the areas of the parietal lobe as well).
manster200673 3 years ago
You're right, I was at a Judas Priest concert and there were other bands that night, when Priest was about te begin our bones and muscles were aching and weak, but the music began and I felt immortal. It was beautiful.
I know exactly what you're talking about!
Mizelei1991 3 years ago
Great vid. A breath of fresh air.
Yes, religion is a drug. Particularly, in that it IMMEDIATELY validates one's point of view.
ndjarnag 3 years ago
Have you read Dawkins' essay Gerin Oil?
TheBiophiliacBright 3 years ago
My feeling tonight is that athiests are starting to bore the shit out of me. How much work have you done to find, seek, prove God? All I see is tons of work to disprove God. If you seek God, He assists you, like he did me. I don't belong to any churches, or belief systems because they irritate the hell out of me. Jesus is real. He speaks and understands English also. There is a spirit world, and this whole planet is one test after another. Pride is not entertaining, is a vice, and a bore.
Belle19700 3 years ago
Then make like your brain and disappear.
TheBiophiliacBright 3 years ago
I'm telling you the truth. How old are you, 14? Come back when you have something to say.
Belle19700 3 years ago
Yeah, calling me a fourteen year old and thumbing me down makes you credible.
TheBiophiliacBright 3 years ago
Oh yeh! Yeh! Eat a pear!
Belle19700 3 years ago
Speaking in tongues, dear?
TheBiophiliacBright 3 years ago
If he can speak, why is it that he only chooses to do so inside ones head?
The atheists are coming a bore? That's pretty rich coming from a guy who is spewing out the typical christian nonsense.
slipcurve 3 years ago
too verbose
god isn't a concept,
if he was then we would be able to conceptualize him.
sum1unxpected 3 years ago
Jesus was a fucking hypocrite he condemns suicide but he fucking commited it himself.
bosnia91 3 years ago
Yes Jesus did "commit suicide" but there was a gigantic purpose behind it, and His motives were to give others life so there would be no death! When humans do it more often then not, it is motivated from selfish reasons.
xxWhiteLightningxxx 3 years ago
So there are purposes by wich suicide can be accepted? the bible says nothing about these purposes so maybe we just should interpret what we think is a accepted suicide?
And what exactly do you mean "there would be no death"? First off all, in this life, there still is death. And if you meant in the afterlife, wasn't that allready free from death to begin with? I mean, isn't that the whole point of eternal life?
And besides he didn't sacrifice too much if he's immortal anyway bcz he can't die.
bosnia91 3 years ago
I didn't know Christ scourged and crucified Himself.
PitchPicture 3 years ago
I've tried to come up with a good arguement for these nuerological reactions ppl get from religion, but i could never put it into a nice little package like this video. Nice one Tooltime. You hit the nail right on the head. Subscribed.
rangersleadtheway10 3 years ago
Good.
Rev01t 3 years ago
he is totally right. I was a very strong christian until my husband died. People told me to seek solace in religion, but I found it was impossible. How could there be a god if he took away the only thing I had going for me? my childhood sucked ass, and then to take away the only good thing that had happened in my life to that point? pretty fucked up. the night he died, I prayed harder and longer than I have every prayed for anything for him to be healed. Nature overruled.
firefae83 3 years ago
holy fuck im watching this while listening to illusions by cypress hill and it's fucking trippy o-O
oh shit
xXAmonAmarthXx 3 years ago
Interesting.
TruthasICit 3 years ago
Christians believe in their own individual idea of god. If you get down to the brass tacks of what they truly believe about god, it hardly ever matches the god of the bible.
TheAtheistPaladin 3 years ago
Thank god for that.
LOL.
Greywyn7 3 years ago
Good video.
RRSAlabama 3 years ago
"religion is opium for the masses"
lightintheireyes 3 years ago
Trying to drop names to show how big he thinks he is? Like the opinion of AA is worth a shit.
PitchPicture 3 years ago
air quotes
SluderM 3 years ago
I AM GOD!!!
jermainethegreat111 3 years ago 4
It's a dirty job, but Somebody's got to do it!
PitchPicture 3 years ago
i'm not really sure if you and TJ actually disagree on your major points, maybe you only disagree on semantics. but in the end i agree with your message here, and from what i know of TJ he would too.
bignastydragon 3 years ago
A disturbed young person offering nothing but disparging, erroneous, opinions regarding Christianity, on Christmas Eve. The prsentation lacks both veracity and tact.
FatherJohnPrester 3 years ago
actually, he presented a lot of things supporting his position. you, however, are the one who has said nothing new and are just proving his point.
your comment lacks veracity and tact. your religion lacks veracity and tact. your imperialistic religion offers contradicting, erroneous opinions about human behaviour and even get multiple holidays, recognized almost all over the world. we have to put up with your erroneous opinions shoved in our faces, all year long.
AshesWasHerName 3 years ago
I do not believe in religion.
FatherJohnPrester 3 years ago 2
'Noticed this to be a simple repetition of a previous comment, in some context meant to be accepted as more valid, i.e. a Christian describing an atheist speaking for the worldview of all Christians contrasted with the statement of the above.
PitchPicture 3 years ago
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When are you going to cut your hair?
androgenik 3 years ago
Shut up, his hair is awesome.
ChristianDavis629 3 years ago
your all gojing to die in a burning flame of hell and flames golour
opl1n4 3 years ago
I think religion is a tribal initiation ,its truth is irrelevant ,its adherence is often demanded to remain part of that group .
as to whether or not individual members of the group ,tribe , cult ,believe in the factual validity of the tribes doctrine ,is irrelevant for they seek to be a group members they are not seeking the truth .
sausage4mash 3 years ago
Religion is a highly evolved and self-interested meme. The fact that today's popular religions are so evolved is the reason why atheists have such difficulty in trying to show people the religions are false. A religion that couldn't or didn't adapt to skepticism would fade away. The largest religions have not only acquired means of resisting tests for truthfulness, but have also evolved means of effectively spreading themselves to other minds.
InfinityAlarm 3 years ago 3
Holy shit, this is thought-out.
*spams to VenomFang*
Dextear 3 years ago
Like Coughlan said, religion gives people hope.
Emil246 3 years ago