*Sigh* I love the science of ballistics and I enjoy shooter video games, but the "protection" and "arming yourself" arguments are logical fallacies when you start talking about flechette, incendiaries, hollow points, drum mags, automatic weapons, assault weapons, etc. That's not protection, that's war.
@medadoodie besides, who the FUCK would want to get a shot off from an automatic shotgun one handed!?! That's what movies, and video games teach people. I even use two hands on my hand guns! That seems like a needless ability that was way over stressed!
@medadoodie it also has NO availability!!! I can shoot my Saiga 12 one handed. Not accurately, but that is because it's a HEAVY gun to carry one handed. However the MYTHICAL AA12 is still something you can't get!! So, that's like saying there is a car that can to 600+ mph. There's one or two in the world, but you will be lucky to even SEE one. I can snag a Saiga for $550 online! Or $600 at the local gunshop. Then +100 in 992 parts, and +100 in mags! $700 for a gun that is still better!!!
@mblader2k3 The Geneva Conventions applies neither to civilians nor to law-enforcement and only sets standards for the treatment of the victims of war. What you probably meant is the Hague Conventions, which only applies to war-time usage of weapons as well - otherwise, nobody would be allowed to use such common things as hollow-point ammunition.
@firefox8192 just look up 12 gauge exotic ammo lots of sites come up even have new one out this year it is a new Slug that is a hollow point designed to split seven ways upon impact causing massive trauma anywhere from 4in with a .410 to 8-10 in. with a 12 gauge.
@firefox8192 just look up 12 gauge exotic ammo lots of sites come up even have new one out this year it is a new Slug that is a hollow point designed to split seven ways upon impact causing massive trauma anywhere from 4in with a .410 to 8-10 in. with a 12 gauge. the ammo is called Ddupleks, or Dupo
its wierd to think that the average citizen in the USA can possess the entire spectrum of ammunition used in the cannons of the british royal navy of the early to mid 19th century,
grapeshot = buckshot
roundshot = rifled slug
chainshot = strung buck,
it was also not uncommon in the navy to pack a can of grapeshot on top of a conventional roundshot cannonball.
@lexmark136 Military cant use it because its against the geneva convention. Law enforcement cant use it because they no longer are aloud. They are not useless. They have longer range than a slug (unpredicable, but is good for cover fire and night watch rounds. They are also abvously devestating against tissue and body armor.
At 600 rds a min (vs 200 with the AA12), easier mag loading, and larger availability the SAIGA 12 is a far more versatile weapon. I too own a 992r Saiga 12, with 2 10rd mags and a 20rd Drum. I will be taking it out this weekend to a shooting competition and will show it off there and take a video.
TOO MANY KIDS GET ALL THEIR INFORMATION ABOUT GUNS AND CARS FROM VIDEO GAMES!!!
@cheturt I agree. A shotgun in real life is one of the deadliest firearms on the battlefield. Rifled slugs are more useful for continued fire due to their lesser recoil, and buckshot can tear organs to tatters at short range, which I consider to be at about 3 yards personally. Additionally, non-lethal rounds, such as sandbags, are in common use by police, which shows that they are highly adaptable. In other words, we need to work on making more guns like the AA-12 and issue them soldiers more.
Why not mention the USAS 12, Saiga 12 or the Neosted? Who cares about the AA12? It was made back in the 70s and was impressive but was not adopted by the military... and still isnt. The newer version was designed more for what Black Water wanted. The Saiga 12 is standard issue for Russian troops. Semi auto (can be full auto at 600+ RPM) built on the AK gas operation design, its practically an AK 47 chambered in 12ga...
@TCGroudon It accepts magazines from 3(i think) rounds to 30 round drums. The Neosted is really awesome... It has twin top mounted tube mags that can be switched between on the fly. So you could put buckshot in one mag and buckshot in the other... Or any other kind of combo to suit your situation.... which is the reason its so versital and used by South African Law Enforcement and Military.
@TCGroudon What im trying to say here TC is that the AA 12 has been over glorified by Call of Duty and is really nothing more than an overly bulky low recoil shotgun (which the low recoil is truly awesome) but not worth the lower rate of fire. I own a Saiga 12... You could (if legal in your area) put a pistol griped folding stock and saw down the barrel to 18" get a grip on your lower foregrip and get a full auto conversion and have a weapon that would kick the shit out of the AA 12 any day...
@obeyance AA12 will never see any kind of action... Not when a pump action Remington is just as good. With 600 rds a min (vs 300 with the AA12), easier mag loading, and more availability, the SAIGA 12 is a far more versatile weapon. I too own a 992r compliant Saiga 12, with 2 10rd mags and a 20rd Drum. I will be taking it out this weekend to a shooting competition and will show it off there and take a video. TOO MANY KIDS GET ALL THEIR INFORMATION ABOUT GUNS AND CARS FROM VIDEO GAMES!!!
@kendrickmeadows Thats easy to say when you've never fired an AA-12, its superior to the conventional pumps and autos in every way. And if you really want 600rpm from a shotgun then just use two AA-12's at the same time...
@FPSRussia You are one of the few people I have seen that has a personal AA-12. I have yet to see one at any range, or even the full auto shootouts in the area. You mentioned you built it, so that explains where you got yours. As far as I know, the AA-12 was designed in the 70's and was never adopted by any military units due to it's sporadic tendency to double fire. It even did it to you in your video. And the Future Weapons video shows the damn thing jamming up!
Like I said, I'll stick to my Saiga-12s that I can buy for $450, and make 992r for another $120, and shoot SEMIAUTOMATIC faster than your AA-12 fires full auto. youtube.com/watch?v=sqJP2WfvR44
Better than a pump? Yes. Better than a Saiga-12? No. Especially if you've got a full auto Saiga-12...it makes the AA-12's "full auto" look pathetic. The main benefits of the AA-12 are its stainless steel components and its inherently recoil-absorbent design, but the Saiga-12 is still quite controllable if you know what you're doing.
Anyway, the Average Joe can't even get an AA-12, so fuck it. If they become available to the public at a reasonable price, then we'll talk.
@IggyBeBallinTV - I have seen an American with a fake accent try to act like he knows what he is talking about. I have not watched his video's ever since he blocked me.
@Derail07 Alright I see your point, and I know he isn't actually russian (I listen to Painkiller Already in which he is a host). And I also agree that the AA-12 isn't the best shotgun around.
@mercturd85 in no way would I admit to that... They take too long to load, and shoot... I can dump 20 rounds in 3.4 seconds from my saiga. And I can reload another 20 in around 2 more seconds. So you grab your pump actions crap stick, and 40 rounds. I'll do the same, and we can see who pops off more rounds!!!
@kendrickmeadows maybe with an extremely inexperienced operator take long to load, but whenever your mags are out i can reload twice before you reload a mag. and with a shotgun, rate of fire doesnt matter much, compared to a rifle. pump actions are easier to function and way more reliable than any semi auto, even one with an ak style cycle
@mercturd85 Let me guess, next you’re going to say you can out shoot my M9 with a revolver and some speed loaders... The 1900 are long gone, and the nostalgia of antiquated firearms has died with it.
The shotgun doesnt get the respect it deserves. To many weekend warriors are running around with tricked out M4s that 'look cooler' than they are practical. People forget the simple effectiveness of a shotgun
What they dont mention here is that flechettes are not made to kill directly, but they are made to bleed the enemy to death and force enemy medics to give attention to their wounded comrade.
The weighted back end of the dart will cause the nail to bend when it enters the human body, making it extremely hard to get out. Flechette rounds were banned in wars due to how devestating they are, the only nation still using them is israel
@theskiesbelowme The Flechette is beyond terrifying. When i first saw that, i sat silent in a state of horror. I seriously didn't know we had such barbaric ammo for shotguns. After witnessing Dragons breath and the Flechette, the thought of being blasted at close range with regular buckshot seems humane.
"I seriously didn't know we had such barbaric ammo for shotguns. "
Look up bolo rounds, even worse...
As far as firearms go, I assure you that's on the low end of anti-infantry technology, how about a massive automated swarm of stealth hovering drones that shoot you with Fragmentation rounds, lolz.
@fi7thy We dont use flechette rounds for that exact reason of being "barbaric" the Geneva convention bans them because they can't garantee a %100 incapassitation on impact rate. and dragon breath rounds (to the best of my knowlage) have no legitamate use period besides looking neat when u fire it. As for your last comment the buckshot at close range acts as one massive round that is more humane than you might think.
@littlebuch afaik most shotguns have the same size in barrels,or more like,when we go to the shooting range, we could use any type of ammunition we bought until now,n thats like,no idea,4 maybe 5 years of shooting.
and even though those ammo types in the vid are "exotic", its only the contents of the shells thats really exotic,as you can see in a part of the video above~
i know that the contents only are ''exotic'' but i was trying to find out if you can shoot those ammo types without changing or modding anything on your gun (if its a 12 gauge)
@littlebuch all you need to enjoy these exotic shells is a standard pump-action 12 gauge of any brand really. as far as mods go, i believe anything you add won't neccesarily help or harm the performance of the shells. but i have heard of significant barrel damage to the gun if the shells are consistently used. i hope this helps you.
@Eyeblades 2 tumbs up, DEAD ON, on cops numbers. Yet both dangerous and
anoying; A commen John Dick Loser, rises to levels of "bravery", he'd NEVER adchief without nearly unlimited power by "Law", Guns, copius amounts of back-up,
AND.. a near to," License to kill" ! Cops! F*** E'M, All !!
@kommandojoe ye, just saw there another shotgun round made Oo
its like, the tactical rifled slug, but when it leaves the shot gun, 4 little propelors pop out, increasing there range by nearly 50% Oo its to nice.. lol
wish you could have like 2/3 of all these rounds in an AA12! wouldnt tht be fun.. xD
The information regarding flechette darts may be misleading, many of the steel arrows curb sideways and backwards causing less the desirable results. Flechette darts were designed as high penetration incapacitating shot with minimal knock down power. however the victim would eventually bleed to death.
Well... I've met alot of people who are insecure, and/or homophobic both in and out of the shooting sports community, but I don't think there's any reason to draw a concrete link between the two. P.S. check out my gun review vids if so inclined.
Good video but a little out of date. I've fired Dragons breath and outside the fact that magnesium can't be put out once It's ignited, I wasn't that impressed.
The best round for a shotgun is oldschool 00 Buck. 9 .380 cal pellets do alot of damage and penetrate deeply enough to put a man down.
If you need more than that, 1 1/4 ounce slug on a full powder charge will bring down anything in North America.
Only thing that hits harder is a 45-70, but thats a smaller slug (350 - 500 grains).
Ballistic gelatin is a joke. It does NOT simulate human tissue. It's a "gee whiz" gimmic created for effect by gun magazines so they can sell their sponsors' ammunition and pay for magazine ads. Human flesh consists of materials of varying size, shape, and density. Projectiles deflect and change paths when this happens. They should be shooting something more realistic like hog carcasses
Deflect off of human tissue? Deflect where? Into the body? Seems if that is the case it might just cause more damage. #9 bird shot that is. I don't really see a slug deflecting off human tissue. Could be wrong.
Yes you can shoot them out of the same gun. The ability to change ammo to fit the purpose is what makes the shotgun such a useful firearm. There are some things you need to know though. Some newer shotguns with overbored barrels are not safe for slugs but they will have a warning.. Also, some chokes are too tight for rifled slugs and I wouldn't go past full choke although you will have some leading and mod is probably the best. Don't use supper full or turkey full or anything like that.
i was shot with birdshot when 1 was 17 it only penetrated a few inches in my skin but the force broke 2 of my ribs,im fine now i just have a nasty scar
I highly doubt a 12ga. slug would "bounce off" the forehead of a Grizzly, but I'd agree there are way better options for that application. I love my shotguns, but I'd take a good .30-06 over the 870 any day if I was in bear country. If I had to use the 870, I'd load it up with 3" magnum slugs and try for a head shot(s). I imagine even 000 buck would be relatively ineffective on a pissed, charging Grizzly.
When I was in lawenforcement we would open our buckshot shells,drill a hole through each shot and tie a "necklace" with 20lb test line,when fired it would cut a cookie cutter hole at 20 yrds!
I know, somebody will say "Duh, dude". Well, I still take my 870 Police with me to every overnight hike, but I'd rather stick to the Brenneke dangerous game slugs, since they are the hardest and the heaviest on the market (well, maybe the "Terminator" slug will match). With all this - EXCELLENT VIDEO, thanks. It prompted we to visit Wikipedia and refresh my high school physics :)
My bad, I was wrong. A 1 oz slug moving at 1600 fps has a kinetic energy of 2486 ft·lbs, which puts it into the 30-06 class. Same very slug has linear momentum of only 100 lb·ft/s, and since momentum is conserved, the complete transfer of it will accelerate a 70 lb log to only 1.4 ft/s... and that's exactly what I've seen. And a 30-06 bullet has even less momentum, but it has the excellent stopping power. It is the kinetic energy and disruption of tissue that kills, not mechanical impact.
I was somewhat disappointed with slugs. Shot a wet, 70-80 lb log with a 2.75" slug at 15 yards from my Rem 870, 18.5 in. barrel police shotgun. The log shook, then lazily fell over. There was a nice entry wound right in the middle, but no exit wound at all. Maybe I am wrong, but discharging this into the forehead of a charging, 700 lb grizzly bear may be a fruitless idea. It may just bounce off. But don't get me wrong - slugs are hell of a fun to shoot!
Birdshot leaves a very nasty (albeit very shallow) wound. I could imagine it leaving a pretty nasty-looking scar, but probably not any serious, permanent injury. I could be wrong, though.
There's just one issue with healing from a birdshot wound: Knives will cut, slugs will tear, but birdshot shreds. A pretty nasty injury at close range.
Yeah, that's what I mean. Really nasty wound, but too shallow to be instantly lethal (for the most part).
I remember reading about a guy who got a full load of buckshot point-blank into his torso, but managed to call 911 for himself and greet the EMT's when they arrived.
Yeah that one looked pretty good. They also make a round with the OO stacked one on the other and the " Rhodesian Jungle " round bird shot in front of heavy buck shot. Supposedly to clear through the brush and open up a path for the buckshot.
Ooh, I remember those "Bolo" rounds in Shotgun News in the late 90s! (The "Strung Buck" of the video.)
The "Dragon's Breath" rounds were also memorable. Cool to see these actually being tested here, brings me back to some memories. I wonder if they still make that stuff?
Oh yeah, I just saw some at a gun show last week. You can find them (and all the other speciality rounds online) . I think I googled " Exotic 12 gauge ammunition "
Are the prices of shotgun ammo going up as much as rifle and pistol ammo? My 12 gauge is the only weapon I have, figured I'd start stocking up just as soon as college is over.
Actually, the prices of ammunition for shotguns hasn't been affected too badly. a 24 round pack of 12ga. buck shot is only around 8-10 dollars at a local walmart..
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yeah man obsessing over phallic symbols that are no more purposeful than model trains, you guys are the coolest im so jealous!!
oh wait no you guys are just dumb nerds who need an instrument of killing to feel like you have some semblance of power because youre so crushed by your own failure of a life :\
you compare guns to model trains? wow, what a gun hater. they are guns, good for shooting clay or going out with your friends to hunt a turkey, you know friends... remember you had those... back when you were instituted in a gay asylum? ba ha ha ha! go die fuck knuckles. why do you even watch when you don't like guns? comments were made for bitter old cocksmokers like you that want to release all the anger that's built up slowly during all the lonely years as a balding unattractive BEOTCH!
great video! thanks for sharing
camoflux 1 month ago
HOLY SHIT FPSRussia COMMENTED ON THIS VID
larrymcjones 3 months ago
@Eyeblades
*Sigh* I love the science of ballistics and I enjoy shooter video games, but the "protection" and "arming yourself" arguments are logical fallacies when you start talking about flechette, incendiaries, hollow points, drum mags, automatic weapons, assault weapons, etc. That's not protection, that's war.
kgoo867 4 months ago
05:19
I see a smiley face.
cv0lv0g0 5 months ago
My favorite is the rifle slug
supietown1 5 months ago
Tactical Rifled Slug = Aim Bot.
CrocoDuck420 7 months ago
@medadoodie besides, who the FUCK would want to get a shot off from an automatic shotgun one handed!?! That's what movies, and video games teach people. I even use two hands on my hand guns! That seems like a needless ability that was way over stressed!
kendrickmeadows 7 months ago
@medadoodie it also has NO availability!!! I can shoot my Saiga 12 one handed. Not accurately, but that is because it's a HEAVY gun to carry one handed. However the MYTHICAL AA12 is still something you can't get!! So, that's like saying there is a car that can to 600+ mph. There's one or two in the world, but you will be lucky to even SEE one. I can snag a Saiga for $550 online! Or $600 at the local gunshop. Then +100 in 992 parts, and +100 in mags! $700 for a gun that is still better!!!
kendrickmeadows 7 months ago
i like how he goes compare the rifled slug(shot to the body) to the tactical rifled slug(head shit) haha
fakefenway 9 months ago
the police should use the flare rounds on humans haha
32middlelinebacker 9 months ago
U would die if had 4 of them on
bassmekanik101 9 months ago
3000 foot pounds of kinetic energy
bassmekanik101 9 months ago
the funny thing is even if your body armor could stop the .12 g slug, youd still die from the kinetic energy.
comport04 9 months ago
I'd say that those flechette darts failed to cause traumatic injury
Pupil0fGod 9 months ago
i always wondered what number 9 would do to you
MushroomPictures 9 months ago
The Flare has to be against Geneva Codes or something. That would cause 3rd degree burn
mblader2k3 11 months ago
@mblader2k3 The Geneva Conventions applies neither to civilians nor to law-enforcement and only sets standards for the treatment of the victims of war. What you probably meant is the Hague Conventions, which only applies to war-time usage of weapons as well - otherwise, nobody would be allowed to use such common things as hollow-point ammunition.
maosw 11 months ago
Respect my authoritah!
phgHunter 11 months ago
this has to be the most ignorant video i have ever seen regarding any ammo!!! what a bunck of bullshit!
black99bimmer 1 year ago
what web sites sell the exoitic ammo?
firefox8192 1 year ago
@firefox8192 just look up 12 gauge exotic ammo lots of sites come up even have new one out this year it is a new Slug that is a hollow point designed to split seven ways upon impact causing massive trauma anywhere from 4in with a .410 to 8-10 in. with a 12 gauge.
Ilovewinter 10 months ago
@firefox8192 just look up 12 gauge exotic ammo lots of sites come up even have new one out this year it is a new Slug that is a hollow point designed to split seven ways upon impact causing massive trauma anywhere from 4in with a .410 to 8-10 in. with a 12 gauge. the ammo is called Ddupleks, or Dupo
Ilovewinter 10 months ago
its wierd to think that the average citizen in the USA can possess the entire spectrum of ammunition used in the cannons of the british royal navy of the early to mid 19th century,
grapeshot = buckshot
roundshot = rifled slug
chainshot = strung buck,
it was also not uncommon in the navy to pack a can of grapeshot on top of a conventional roundshot cannonball.
elgostine 1 year ago
long live the CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES REPUBLIC & THE 4th AMENDMENT
firefox8192 1 year ago
Great Video
mtower235 1 year ago
the flechette seems pretty useless... theres a reason why no law enforcement or military uses it.
lexmark136 1 year ago
@lexmark136 Military cant use it because its against the geneva convention. Law enforcement cant use it because they no longer are aloud. They are not useless. They have longer range than a slug (unpredicable, but is good for cover fire and night watch rounds. They are also abvously devestating against tissue and body armor.
762infidel 1 year ago
At 600 rds a min (vs 200 with the AA12), easier mag loading, and larger availability the SAIGA 12 is a far more versatile weapon. I too own a 992r Saiga 12, with 2 10rd mags and a 20rd Drum. I will be taking it out this weekend to a shooting competition and will show it off there and take a video.
TOO MANY KIDS GET ALL THEIR INFORMATION ABOUT GUNS AND CARS FROM VIDEO GAMES!!!
kendrickmeadows 1 year ago
@kendrickmeadows plz make that vid, im interested.
elgostine 1 year ago
@elgostine youtube.com/watch?v=sqJP2WfvR44
kendrickmeadows 9 months ago
Good video
SirJabsAlot 1 year ago
@cheturt I agree. A shotgun in real life is one of the deadliest firearms on the battlefield. Rifled slugs are more useful for continued fire due to their lesser recoil, and buckshot can tear organs to tatters at short range, which I consider to be at about 3 yards personally. Additionally, non-lethal rounds, such as sandbags, are in common use by police, which shows that they are highly adaptable. In other words, we need to work on making more guns like the AA-12 and issue them soldiers more.
TCGroudon 1 year ago
@TCGroudon Weeeeee CoD kiddies talkin about guns!
Why not mention the USAS 12, Saiga 12 or the Neosted? Who cares about the AA12? It was made back in the 70s and was impressive but was not adopted by the military... and still isnt. The newer version was designed more for what Black Water wanted. The Saiga 12 is standard issue for Russian troops. Semi auto (can be full auto at 600+ RPM) built on the AK gas operation design, its practically an AK 47 chambered in 12ga...
obeyance 1 year ago
@TCGroudon It accepts magazines from 3(i think) rounds to 30 round drums. The Neosted is really awesome... It has twin top mounted tube mags that can be switched between on the fly. So you could put buckshot in one mag and buckshot in the other... Or any other kind of combo to suit your situation.... which is the reason its so versital and used by South African Law Enforcement and Military.
obeyance 1 year ago
@TCGroudon What im trying to say here TC is that the AA 12 has been over glorified by Call of Duty and is really nothing more than an overly bulky low recoil shotgun (which the low recoil is truly awesome) but not worth the lower rate of fire. I own a Saiga 12... You could (if legal in your area) put a pistol griped folding stock and saw down the barrel to 18" get a grip on your lower foregrip and get a full auto conversion and have a weapon that would kick the shit out of the AA 12 any day...
obeyance 1 year ago
@obeyance AA12 will never see any kind of action... Not when a pump action Remington is just as good. With 600 rds a min (vs 300 with the AA12), easier mag loading, and more availability, the SAIGA 12 is a far more versatile weapon. I too own a 992r compliant Saiga 12, with 2 10rd mags and a 20rd Drum. I will be taking it out this weekend to a shooting competition and will show it off there and take a video. TOO MANY KIDS GET ALL THEIR INFORMATION ABOUT GUNS AND CARS FROM VIDEO GAMES!!!
kendrickmeadows 1 year ago 13
@kendrickmeadows
its absolutely true.
most of the stuff featured on "future weapons" is nothing more than a toy that every kid playing cod wants to own.
that stuff might look cool at first look, but after all theres only one question: is it better than xy? if not, thats bad for the company selling it.
AllisterCaine 1 year ago
@kendrickmeadows Thats easy to say when you've never fired an AA-12, its superior to the conventional pumps and autos in every way. And if you really want 600rpm from a shotgun then just use two AA-12's at the same time...
FPSRussia 9 months ago 6
@FPSRussia FpsRussia! I love youu!
VivedHD 9 months ago
@FPSRussia You are one of the few people I have seen that has a personal AA-12. I have yet to see one at any range, or even the full auto shootouts in the area. You mentioned you built it, so that explains where you got yours. As far as I know, the AA-12 was designed in the 70's and was never adopted by any military units due to it's sporadic tendency to double fire. It even did it to you in your video. And the Future Weapons video shows the damn thing jamming up!
kendrickmeadows 9 months ago
Like I said, I'll stick to my Saiga-12s that I can buy for $450, and make 992r for another $120, and shoot SEMIAUTOMATIC faster than your AA-12 fires full auto. youtube.com/watch?v=sqJP2WfvR44
kendrickmeadows 9 months ago
@FPSRussia ill stick with my remington 870. i like it much more. plus i can load it with anything.
mcmikeblues 8 months ago
@FPSRussia lol, i knew one day i would see a comment by u on a random gun video.
AgentXRifle 3 months ago
@FPSRussia
Better than a pump? Yes. Better than a Saiga-12? No. Especially if you've got a full auto Saiga-12...it makes the AA-12's "full auto" look pathetic. The main benefits of the AA-12 are its stainless steel components and its inherently recoil-absorbent design, but the Saiga-12 is still quite controllable if you know what you're doing.
Anyway, the Average Joe can't even get an AA-12, so fuck it. If they become available to the public at a reasonable price, then we'll talk.
KagarBeardtooth 3 months ago
@FPSRussia - Learning up on your bullshit so you can act like you know about shotguns you Fraud?
Derail07 1 month ago
@Derail07 Fraud? Have you ever seen FPSRussia's videos before?
IggyBeBallinTV 1 month ago
@IggyBeBallinTV - I have seen an American with a fake accent try to act like he knows what he is talking about. I have not watched his video's ever since he blocked me.
Derail07 1 month ago
@Derail07 Alright I see your point, and I know he isn't actually russian (I listen to Painkiller Already in which he is a host). And I also agree that the AA-12 isn't the best shotgun around.
IggyBeBallinTV 1 month ago
@IggyBeBallinTV -
Why do you think the fag came here talking about those borrowed AA12’s? So he could learn about Shotguns
Derail07 1 month ago
@kendrickmeadows thats as true as kids playing too many M rated games :halo,COD,Dead Space, and GOW
gekkoguy911 9 months ago
@kendrickmeadows you have to admit, past present and future, the trusty pump action will always reign supreme
mercturd85 5 months ago
@mercturd85 in no way would I admit to that... They take too long to load, and shoot... I can dump 20 rounds in 3.4 seconds from my saiga. And I can reload another 20 in around 2 more seconds. So you grab your pump actions crap stick, and 40 rounds. I'll do the same, and we can see who pops off more rounds!!!
ww.youtube.com/watch?v=sqJP2WfvR44
kendrickmeadows 4 months ago
@kendrickmeadows maybe with an extremely inexperienced operator take long to load, but whenever your mags are out i can reload twice before you reload a mag. and with a shotgun, rate of fire doesnt matter much, compared to a rifle. pump actions are easier to function and way more reliable than any semi auto, even one with an ak style cycle
mercturd85 4 months ago
@mercturd85 Let me guess, next you’re going to say you can out shoot my M9 with a revolver and some speed loaders... The 1900 are long gone, and the nostalgia of antiquated firearms has died with it.
kendrickmeadows 3 months ago
@kendrickmeadows All hail, all hail. Realism prevails - but then, there ARE more copies of "Black Ops" than there are informed people.
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The shotgun doesnt get the respect it deserves. To many weekend warriors are running around with tricked out M4s that 'look cooler' than they are practical. People forget the simple effectiveness of a shotgun
cheturt 1 year ago
Whats the accual purpose of the strung buck rounds?
TheMohawkNinja 1 year ago
What they dont mention here is that flechettes are not made to kill directly, but they are made to bleed the enemy to death and force enemy medics to give attention to their wounded comrade.
The weighted back end of the dart will cause the nail to bend when it enters the human body, making it extremely hard to get out. Flechette rounds were banned in wars due to how devestating they are, the only nation still using them is israel
kekeke01 1 year ago
@Eyeblades I wonder if there's a tinfoil hat information video around aswell?
Troggyhordesman 1 year ago
@ufailhard1 word
12gaugeG 1 year ago
Message is clear get a few flechettes and strung buck rounds!
If I want to set something on fire I'll throw a molotov...
WoodlandRavah 1 year ago
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@Eyeblades if you think we have a big brother government then you have clearly never read 1984
dh3684 1 year ago
Respect my authoritya!!
Northhunt 1 year ago
@ufailhard1 oh ok thanks :)
littlebuch 1 year ago
Dragon Breath LOL
seven47katana 1 year ago
I am literally retarded after watching this herp deerp daaaarp
AslanGugayev 1 year ago
The Flechette is terrifying. Honestly if you committed a crime with Dragon's Breath it would scare the bejeezes out of anyone.
theskiesbelowme 1 year ago
@theskiesbelowme The Flechette is beyond terrifying. When i first saw that, i sat silent in a state of horror. I seriously didn't know we had such barbaric ammo for shotguns. After witnessing Dragons breath and the Flechette, the thought of being blasted at close range with regular buckshot seems humane.
fi7thy 1 year ago
@fi7thy
"I seriously didn't know we had such barbaric ammo for shotguns. "
Look up bolo rounds, even worse...
As far as firearms go, I assure you that's on the low end of anti-infantry technology, how about a massive automated swarm of stealth hovering drones that shoot you with Fragmentation rounds, lolz.
WoodlandRavah 1 year ago
@fi7thy We dont use flechette rounds for that exact reason of being "barbaric" the Geneva convention bans them because they can't garantee a %100 incapassitation on impact rate. and dragon breath rounds (to the best of my knowlage) have no legitamate use period besides looking neat when u fire it. As for your last comment the buckshot at close range acts as one massive round that is more humane than you might think.
TheMohawkNinja 1 year ago
they REALLY need to show the exotic rounds on that Timewarp show on discovery. that's be so bad ass
vandetta13 1 year ago
can you fire all these ammo types on the same shotgun without changing anything on it?
littlebuch 1 year ago
@littlebuch afaik most shotguns have the same size in barrels,or more like,when we go to the shooting range, we could use any type of ammunition we bought until now,n thats like,no idea,4 maybe 5 years of shooting.
and even though those ammo types in the vid are "exotic", its only the contents of the shells thats really exotic,as you can see in a part of the video above~
udfbino 1 year ago
i know that the contents only are ''exotic'' but i was trying to find out if you can shoot those ammo types without changing or modding anything on your gun (if its a 12 gauge)
littlebuch 1 year ago
@littlebuch all you need to enjoy these exotic shells is a standard pump-action 12 gauge of any brand really. as far as mods go, i believe anything you add won't neccesarily help or harm the performance of the shells. but i have heard of significant barrel damage to the gun if the shells are consistently used. i hope this helps you.
drumgasm 1 year ago
@drumgasm ok thanks im a ''noob'' xD
littlebuch 1 year ago
can any shotgun take any shell?
ssadriank 1 year ago
This was a good video and I learned a lot
FerrariFire34 1 year ago
@Eyeblades 2 tumbs up, DEAD ON, on cops numbers. Yet both dangerous and
anoying; A commen John Dick Loser, rises to levels of "bravery", he'd NEVER adchief without nearly unlimited power by "Law", Guns, copius amounts of back-up,
AND.. a near to," License to kill" ! Cops! F*** E'M, All !!
explosivefreak666 1 year ago
man i would love to see the effects of a frag 12
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Giuelith 1 year ago
how ironic, one of the test objects was an Oldsmobile cutlass. All it needed was some Daytons on it.
HugoIStayHere 1 year ago
@HugoIStayHere and a bald headed sureno with a .45 in his lap
x3papabearx3 1 year ago
thx very helpful
McFunnyCunt 1 year ago
it said "deadly" but there was a flashbang @ 37...i dont think ive ever seen anyone use a flashbang besides swat or marines...
starshock01 1 year ago
no more infomercials on guns i miss the 80s
chingchong54 1 year ago
What about the frag 12? What would that do to a human?? I guess it will turn you into grinded meat.
Bjjownsu10 1 year ago
@Bjjownsu10 Can you also imagine how expensive those are to buy and own?
Skidracer21 1 year ago
Dart rounds are some scary things, aren't they :)
kommandojoe 1 year ago
@kommandojoe ye, just saw there another shotgun round made Oo
its like, the tactical rifled slug, but when it leaves the shot gun, 4 little propelors pop out, increasing there range by nearly 50% Oo its to nice.. lol
wish you could have like 2/3 of all these rounds in an AA12! wouldnt tht be fun.. xD
r2darky 1 year ago
Great video, thanks for uploading!
TheOneBun 1 year ago
Fucking amen
Zen5012 1 year ago
One of the most well presented & informative vids I've seen in here . 5stars .
lladnar71 2 years ago
That ballistics gel seems awefully soft. IIRC, #9 low brass shot shells only penetrate about 2" into BG.
gnigged68 2 years ago
5:10
Mitodreamer 2 years ago
Big thanks for sharing
Meedfire 2 years ago
Good thing he brought his wife's car to demonstrate...
marshallspikebanana 2 years ago 2
great
emhershberg 2 years ago
The information regarding flechette darts may be misleading, many of the steel arrows curb sideways and backwards causing less the desirable results. Flechette darts were designed as high penetration incapacitating shot with minimal knock down power. however the victim would eventually bleed to death.
BMWdrivingpleasure 2 years ago
I hate how they never mention what level of armor there using.
berettaman092 2 years ago
They mentioned the sabot, pronounced say bow, but didn't talk about it. I would like to see the gel test from 150 yard SST and Lightfield shots.
mechredd 2 years ago
are there any other videos from " rounds of authority"? with other guns?
marviepet 2 years ago
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every gun owner i've ever known has been homophobic, deeply insecure or both
p3on 2 years ago
I know gay gun owners, are they in a constant self loathing torment? I bet you people who own guns and you just don't know it.
Tasmantor 2 years ago
well guns are for real people not people who think its cool to like cock
crumbutt 2 years ago
The Pink Pistols would disagree with you.
Cybrludite 2 years ago
hrm yes gay men are completely impervious to anxieties related to their sexuality
p3on 2 years ago
Well... I've met alot of people who are insecure, and/or homophobic both in and out of the shooting sports community, but I don't think there's any reason to draw a concrete link between the two. P.S. check out my gun review vids if so inclined.
BobbyIronsights 2 years ago
Insecure about what?
Aperson156 2 years ago
their sexuality, their intelligence, their penis, you name it
p3on 2 years ago
well now you have met one that isn't
Aperson156 2 years ago
i sorta doubt that
p3on 2 years ago
whenever i heard authority i remeber eric cartman...
respect my authority and a baton to the kneecap :)
emrullah2333 2 years ago
buck and ball is my favorite
Cros451 2 years ago
Mailbox lol
MakoSucks 2 years ago
Yes easy . close
1000weedUser 2 years ago
could a bird shot kill some one
Xxdarkstarsk8xX 2 years ago
there are different sizes of bird shot, but without getting into alot of detail,the short answer is yes
jnburch 2 years ago
Good video but a little out of date. I've fired Dragons breath and outside the fact that magnesium can't be put out once It's ignited, I wasn't that impressed.
The best round for a shotgun is oldschool 00 Buck. 9 .380 cal pellets do alot of damage and penetrate deeply enough to put a man down.
If you need more than that, 1 1/4 ounce slug on a full powder charge will bring down anything in North America.
Only thing that hits harder is a 45-70, but thats a smaller slug (350 - 500 grains).
Whitehorze 2 years ago
my fave is the flechet i might make some myself with nails
golfer15963 2 years ago
Ballistic gelatin is a joke. It does NOT simulate human tissue. It's a "gee whiz" gimmic created for effect by gun magazines so they can sell their sponsors' ammunition and pay for magazine ads. Human flesh consists of materials of varying size, shape, and density. Projectiles deflect and change paths when this happens. They should be shooting something more realistic like hog carcasses
idsman75 2 years ago
Well it gives to a basic idea.
askAlanNow 2 years ago 8
Deflect off of human tissue? Deflect where? Into the body? Seems if that is the case it might just cause more damage. #9 bird shot that is. I don't really see a slug deflecting off human tissue. Could be wrong.
deathprince 2 years ago
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marviepet 2 years ago
Yes you can shoot them out of the same gun. The ability to change ammo to fit the purpose is what makes the shotgun such a useful firearm. There are some things you need to know though. Some newer shotguns with overbored barrels are not safe for slugs but they will have a warning.. Also, some chokes are too tight for rifled slugs and I wouldn't go past full choke although you will have some leading and mod is probably the best. Don't use supper full or turkey full or anything like that.
dedsor91 2 years ago
You should go kill your self, and never touch another gun in your life
Jerman47 2 years ago
i was shot with birdshot when 1 was 17 it only penetrated a few inches in my skin but the force broke 2 of my ribs,im fine now i just have a nasty scar
lanceglock45 2 years ago
@ 0x123456789ABCDEF,
I highly doubt a 12ga. slug would "bounce off" the forehead of a Grizzly, but I'd agree there are way better options for that application. I love my shotguns, but I'd take a good .30-06 over the 870 any day if I was in bear country. If I had to use the 870, I'd load it up with 3" magnum slugs and try for a head shot(s). I imagine even 000 buck would be relatively ineffective on a pissed, charging Grizzly.
Positrack1 2 years ago
oh and they forgot HE rounds and the famous .70 cal buckshot with 3 balls.
greatestsongsofLIFE 2 years ago
how is +P+ 9mm ammo "Law Enforcement only" when .357 sig ISNT?! they both can push a 115grn bullet at the same speed (1,400fps i beleive).
greatestsongsofLIFE 2 years ago
When I was in lawenforcement we would open our buckshot shells,drill a hole through each shot and tie a "necklace" with 20lb test line,when fired it would cut a cookie cutter hole at 20 yrds!
jojostudrock 2 years ago
7:00 Slug....
Saiga-12 has 20 big 3" magnum slugs.
heavensarmory 2 years ago
that's the thing (excluding incendiary and magnesium rounds) shotguns offer a tradeoff of low penetration to high penetration!!!
mrfrankincense 2 years ago
"fired into various mediums" i think they just wanted to shoot stuff with a gun
starshock01 2 years ago 2
I know, somebody will say "Duh, dude". Well, I still take my 870 Police with me to every overnight hike, but I'd rather stick to the Brenneke dangerous game slugs, since they are the hardest and the heaviest on the market (well, maybe the "Terminator" slug will match). With all this - EXCELLENT VIDEO, thanks. It prompted we to visit Wikipedia and refresh my high school physics :)
0x123456789ABCDEF 2 years ago
My bad, I was wrong. A 1 oz slug moving at 1600 fps has a kinetic energy of 2486 ft·lbs, which puts it into the 30-06 class. Same very slug has linear momentum of only 100 lb·ft/s, and since momentum is conserved, the complete transfer of it will accelerate a 70 lb log to only 1.4 ft/s... and that's exactly what I've seen. And a 30-06 bullet has even less momentum, but it has the excellent stopping power. It is the kinetic energy and disruption of tissue that kills, not mechanical impact.
0x123456789ABCDEF 2 years ago
I was somewhat disappointed with slugs. Shot a wet, 70-80 lb log with a 2.75" slug at 15 yards from my Rem 870, 18.5 in. barrel police shotgun. The log shook, then lazily fell over. There was a nice entry wound right in the middle, but no exit wound at all. Maybe I am wrong, but discharging this into the forehead of a charging, 700 lb grizzly bear may be a fruitless idea. It may just bounce off. But don't get me wrong - slugs are hell of a fun to shoot!
0x123456789ABCDEF 2 years ago
police you rock
InsideCharliesHead 2 years ago
yeah, i imagine the shots causing severe lacerations, and the surgeon gotta dig out every pellet. also lead is toxic to human body. ) :
miiigoreng 2 years ago
I know alot of guys that through hunting accidents took pellets..
They are still walking around with pellets lodged in bone or tissue the doctors could not remove.
Likewise I know a guy who was practicing his quick draw with a pistol, he still has a .22 slug in his leg....
Be safe with guns, dont do anything stupid.
Tatsumi67 2 years ago 2
i wonder how a wound will heal when a person is hit by the bird shots
miiigoreng 2 years ago
Birdshot leaves a very nasty (albeit very shallow) wound. I could imagine it leaving a pretty nasty-looking scar, but probably not any serious, permanent injury. I could be wrong, though.
JasonRedfield 2 years ago
There's just one issue with healing from a birdshot wound: Knives will cut, slugs will tear, but birdshot shreds. A pretty nasty injury at close range.
Leocidain 2 years ago
Yeah, that's what I mean. Really nasty wound, but too shallow to be instantly lethal (for the most part).
I remember reading about a guy who got a full load of buckshot point-blank into his torso, but managed to call 911 for himself and greet the EMT's when they arrived.
JasonRedfield 2 years ago
I think you meant birdshot.
BobbyIronsights 2 years ago
Indeed I did. My bad.
JasonRedfield 2 years ago
Amazingly informative.
PinkMooseTree 2 years ago
Very professional way to load a single shell... pay attention.
0x123456789ABCDEF 2 years ago
Awesome video, I have to admit.... A+++++++++
0x123456789ABCDEF 2 years ago
exotic starts at 12:15
georgezimmer 2 years ago
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Herzogvanwerden 2 years ago
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There is an immense amount of stopping power with shotguns. They primarily exist, however, for things like breaching doors.
Wolfie123123 2 years ago
you have no idea what you are talking about. Oh wait, you are in England, of course you dont. you let the politians take your gun rights away.
Tatsumi67 2 years ago
a rifled "slog", how about SLUG. quit talking about real guns and go play halo.
TommyTsunami88 2 years ago
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Herzogvanwerden 2 years ago
yeah so dont speak it you highland prick. just as i do not attempt to speak your shitty language.
TommyTsunami88 2 years ago
Interesting, but this is some scary stuff.
matthewR77 2 years ago
lol u can see the wad bounce off the target.
Dillinger128 2 years ago
They sould make tracer buckshot or birdshot. I found a shotgun round called the terminator. It has two slugs in one shell. kind of like buck and ball
GOD719 2 years ago
Yeah that one looked pretty good. They also make a round with the OO stacked one on the other and the " Rhodesian Jungle " round bird shot in front of heavy buck shot. Supposedly to clear through the brush and open up a path for the buckshot.
DandDskeeto 2 years ago
They do have that. It's called the sportsmans tracer, comes in #8 birdshot.
cfoodluvr 2 years ago
Ooh, I remember those "Bolo" rounds in Shotgun News in the late 90s! (The "Strung Buck" of the video.)
The "Dragon's Breath" rounds were also memorable. Cool to see these actually being tested here, brings me back to some memories. I wonder if they still make that stuff?
DEP717 2 years ago
Oh yeah, I just saw some at a gun show last week. You can find them (and all the other speciality rounds online) . I think I googled " Exotic 12 gauge ammunition "
DandDskeeto 2 years ago
Thanks for sharing.
DAILEYericCaryUSA 2 years ago
the music for this clip is sooooo 80s cheese
creamycurdy 2 years ago 9
they say reloading is fun and easy...guess more people will end up loading their own.
crazyeddie31 2 years ago
If guns were phallic, no man would have bought one with a two inch barrel.
whiterock1504 2 years ago 3
Are the prices of shotgun ammo going up as much as rifle and pistol ammo? My 12 gauge is the only weapon I have, figured I'd start stocking up just as soon as college is over.
CrystalHunter1989 2 years ago
Actually, the prices of ammunition for shotguns hasn't been affected too badly. a 24 round pack of 12ga. buck shot is only around 8-10 dollars at a local walmart..
Leocidain 2 years ago
informative video
19kimber11 2 years ago 2
so much for bullet resistant glass:)
Shmizzler 2 years ago
im a grab that buck and ball load,it can be bought at any gun shop rite?
O4jampO4 2 years ago
I don't know about that,but it's in every issue of Shotgun News.
J & G sales 928 445 9650
It's called: Centurion Multi Defense 12 gauge Buckshot
( 1 .650 Ball & 6 # 1 Buckshot Pellets )
Box of 10 rounds/$10.95
DandDskeeto 2 years ago
Buck and ball was used by the soldiers in the American Revolution.
Mossy500A 2 years ago
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guns are for emotionally stunted manchildren who need a security blanket
p3on 2 years ago
or people with lives and money, sorry you didn't make the club. ( ;
12GaugeLosAngeles 2 years ago 4
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yeah man obsessing over phallic symbols that are no more purposeful than model trains, you guys are the coolest im so jealous!!
oh wait no you guys are just dumb nerds who need an instrument of killing to feel like you have some semblance of power because youre so crushed by your own failure of a life :\
p3on 2 years ago
you compare guns to model trains? wow, what a gun hater. they are guns, good for shooting clay or going out with your friends to hunt a turkey, you know friends... remember you had those... back when you were instituted in a gay asylum? ba ha ha ha! go die fuck knuckles. why do you even watch when you don't like guns? comments were made for bitter old cocksmokers like you that want to release all the anger that's built up slowly during all the lonely years as a balding unattractive BEOTCH!
12GaugeLosAngeles 2 years ago 3