RATM - Noam Chomsky Interview by Zach De La Rocha Part 2 [DRN].avi

[qwertypoiu4321]

3:18-3:25 lol

[Kennelmouth]

I like how starstruck Zach is at the end

[mandolinroad]

@Kennelmouth rightly so

[kabaara]

@utra1337

Well shit man, people don't introduce solutions to problematic issues such as those because maybe they don't know any solutions, and if you do, please, SHARE.. Rofl...

[byro1884]

There is no alternative to capitalism in Western society. Communism in all its forms has shown itself to be inadequate in societies that strongly value individualism and selfishness.

[homisidaltoast]

@byro1884 well socialism is working pretty well for europe. but us americans are greedy and stupid to put up with socialism

[byro1884]

@homisidaltoast

Socialism doesn't work well anywhere. As Thatcher said- the problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money to spend.

[homisidaltoast]

@byro1884 if you dont like socialism, why do you like RATM

[homisidaltoast]

@byro1884 look into it. pure socialism can only work globally, but adding aspects of socialism to a gov't and economy does wonderful things. look at denmark, happiest country inn the world, and their economy is based on making everyone happy, with EXTREMELY high taxes, but nobody has to pay for education, health care and other basic things. also real socialism means that there is no form of money at all. just give all you can, take what u need

[UserUK201]

@homisidaltoast yeah like in greece or spain or france? haha what fantasy world do you live in? Europe is being propped up by the German taxpayers because extensive socialism has caused extreme economic decline.

[UserUK201]

what tools these people are. no wonder neither receives any respect from the established political science community.

[utra1337]

@UserUK201 so.. you really hate liberals? Are you kidding me Chomsky probably has THE MOST respect among the political studies community, THE MOST respect among all free thinkers and intellectuals. As for De La Rocha... hes just a very unique musician/poet.

[UserUK201]

@utra1337 no chomsky is a respected linguist and obviously intelligent, but this doesn't confer unto him an omnipotent ability to analyze world events. in fact he is little better than bill oreilly in his subpar observations.

[utra1337]

@UserUK201 ok, you can't take chomsky word for word everything he says... he's definitely not omnipotent but far more logical than o'reily, because unlike oreily, he as the tendency to cite his facts. Personally i dont agree with everything chomsky says, but he does bring up good points, and is no doubt an intellectual at the very least.

[UserUK201]

@utra1337 He does bring up valid points, but again nothing outstanding. The "facts" he cites are interlaced with lies or misinformation (though i'm not saying this is on purpose) and his analysis of the facts are part of my condemnation of him. Again he is intelligent, and he makes valid points, perhaps more so then oreilly, but not that much.

[utra1337]

@UserUK201 well, for beginners, one thing im not too pleased with chomsky about, is how he is so adept at criticizing every country in the world, but not capable at giving a single solution. He critiques capitalism, ... so he promotes communism? No, he critiques that as well. He critiques all forms of corporations and governments, but always stays away from proposing an actual solution to the world's problems.

[rubenalonsol]

@utra1337 C'mon man don't become critic of the critisism, you know the solution... USA doesn't even have a real capitalism, they got deregularization of the market and economic laws, the government protect big corporations, what you have is not a democracy is a plutocracy, YOU WANT A SOLUTION TO BE PRESENTED, well get real and built a real democracy where the state promotes real welthfare and real equal oportunities for people, stop your government from doing foreigns interventions

[highlyevolved420]

both of these men are of jewish descent. I find it funny they both take leading roles and act like they really care about fighting our planet's growing problem with social inequality, wars, the environment, etc...WHEN IT'S PEOPLE WHO SHARE THEIR FAMILY TREE THAT ARE CAUSING ALL THESE FUCKING PROBLEMS! This is a tactic I call "controlled opposition" of dissenting viewpoints. All too clever for the average invalid to conceive the level of deception the jews will go to fulfill their pledge to god.

[Chaosprincess01]

@highlyevolved420 Dude....your mind is fucked.

[highlyevolved420]

@Chaosprincess01 haha, you just can't accept the fact a band like RATM would never get any mass media attention, radio play, etc.if they didn't have a jewish identity. Just because his name is "de la rocha" doesn't mean he's latino...look at him, he's a jew. The only reason he can get so much media attention with such a violent anti-establishment message is because the media conglomerates know he doesn't pose a threat because he's like them. I bet ur a chubby pothead with dreads dunnoshitSTFU!

[Chaosprincess01]

@highlyevolved420 Your hatred is unproductive. Why are you so angry? I don't recall any photos of Zack coming to your house and punching you in your face.

[iunnodiapeys]

@highlyevolved420 nope, i think what you're getting at is schizophrenia or some complex paranoia you are experiencing you fucking nut.

[SalvadorElAteo]

According to my history since making this channel, I've seen 105 videos. I haven't commented but this one, I gotta say, that if I was in Zach's position, I would have been so honored the way he was to get to speak with Noam Chomsky. I would love to meet that man, a brilliant mind. And gotta love RATM, right?

[LikeWiseLikeYou]

LOL, cool interview.

Too bad both these guys are raging communists/anarchists...

[SubsistenceSC]

@LikeWiseLikeYou Noam Chomsky's a libertarian....

[LikeWiseLikeYou]

@SubsistenceSC yeah he is. A libertarian socialist. And he has described HIMSELF that way on a number of occasions. He is a traditional anarchist in many ways also. Wake up and wise up.

[SubsistenceSC]

@LikeWiseLikeYou You're telling me to wake up? Psssh.

[LikeWiseLikeYou]

@SubsistenceSC and to 'wise up'... two different things there.

[SubsistenceSC]

@LikeWiseLikeYou Yeah, you're preaching to the choir, buddy.

[treeboy113]

@LikeWiseLikeYou your fucking retarded.

[LikeWiseLikeYou]

@treeboy113 yeah thanks tree boy.

Capitalism will punish you.

[xbpong]

@LikeWiseLikeYou does your statement that they are "communist" or "anarchist" discredit anything they say? noam chomsky's books are undeniably credible, so while you may disagree with his bias, you can't just throw around an ignorant fucking label like that and call it a day. you wrongly use the terms communist or anarchist as ways to devalue these guys because of their negative connotations. wake up and wise up - america is not infallible.

[LikeWiseLikeYou]

@xbpong An excellent question. And here's an excellent answer:

Remember this undeniable truth about the history of civilization:

The greatest contributions to civilization were not made by government bureaus, but by the works of free enterprise society. Ben Franklin, Einstein, Henry Ford all flourished under their own free will, not by government order. Socialism and communism go AGAINST the grain of human nature. Greed. Which is why communism and socialism have historically failed. Done.

[xbpong]

@LikeWiseLikeYou that's a severely narrowed scope of the "greatest contributions of to civilization". the free enterprise, globalizing society you so highly refer to also has committed the most frequent abuses against other people - consider the fact that it was founded entirely upon the suffering of several groups of people. you can spin the positives, but you can't ignore the consequences. and socialism hasn't failed....look north.

[LikeWiseLikeYou]

@xbpong A good response, but unfortunately, recorded history is stacked overwhelmingly against your argument. The only times in recorded history when the masses (even the majority) of people were WORST off, are when countries depart from the system of free trade. I agree, it's not a PERFECT system.

But there is no alternative way, so far discovered, of improving the lot of the ordinary people that can hold a candle to the prosperity unleashed under the capitalistic system. Plain and simple.

[xbpong]

@LikeWiseLikeYou Other systems have "failed" because the US actively prevents them from getting started, let alone succeeding. and i would argue that venezuela with its current system is proving you wrong as we speak. i'm sure you can join every u.s. media outlet and call chavez a dictator, but he's built that nation into a freely democratic, highly nationalized system. you should read non-u.s. articles and information to get some real scope on the world big guy.

[LikeWiseLikeYou]

@xbpong Then why is it that no one is trying to immigrate there? And why is it that people from every corner of the earth risk their lives to come to America instead?

[xbpong]

@LikeWiseLikeYou because of reputation for one. secondly, venezuela has a very large immigrant population, i'm not even sure why you assume people don't emmigrate there. i'd just like to point out that based on your channel's comments and what you've said here, you're probably very well-informed from ONE perspective. you have that undertone of condescension that comes so often from the "god bless america" tune you're singing which tells me it's pointless to argue with you b/c you're too stubborn

[xbpong]

@LikeWiseLikeYou just figured i'd add to my point. people "risk their lives to come to america" because american corporations advertise and globalize those places, making them believe that money and capitalism are a way out of suffering. they fail to divulge the fact that a lot of the suffering is directly caused by globalization and exploitation from corporations.

[LikeWiseLikeYou]

@xbpong I liked the line, "making them believe that money and capitalism are a way out of suffering." Do you think Fidel Castro offers "a way out of suffering?" Ask good ol' Elian Gonzalez (remember him?). Do you think the Communist Commissar offers "a way out of suffering?" Do you think that Hitler offered "a way out of suffering? Of course not. America is NOT perfect, but we are noble. I don't think you're misguided. I think you simply take certain things for granted. But who doesn't?

[xbpong]

@LikeWiseLikeYou don't get me wrong, i find america to be one of the better options. i'm simply trying to point out that there are some VERY wrong aspects with capitalism and that people like you take for granted the consequences of how smoothly you live your life. funny how i mention venezuela, and you immediately point to hitler and castro - two completely separate examples. if communism existed without US interference or a dictator pulling the strings, then yeah i think it would work.

[xbpong]

@LikeWiseLikeYou but that's utopian, and thus pointless. again, you haven't really refuted any points i've made you've simply referred to the typical counter examples all of the media in our country spews out against "anti-US" or "anti-capitalist" people. in all seriousness, i would recommend that you read Michael Sullivan's book America Adventurism Abroad or Chomsky's Hegemony or Survival. it'll make you rethink how much you value capitalism as the almighty form of the world.

[LikeWiseLikeYou]

@xbpong Understood. We fundamentally disagree. To me, the test of time is absolutely crystal clear. The society that puts equality before freedom will end up with neither. But! The society that puts freedom before equality will end up with a great measure of both. This has been proven since the beginning of man's memory runneth not to the contrary. But I love debating. So thank you for engaging me.

[xbpong]

@LikeWiseLikeYou discourse is necessary, nothing personal. i'm fine with disagreeing and it's a necessary step in progression. you put it best in saying that we fundamentally disagree.

[archstan8]

is this a joke? a parody? these two are stooges on the stage of buffoonery. ok now go home to your fancy houses and call your accountant to see how much money you made today in the stock market. hey zack, you sycophant, cut your hair and go read a few books on economics. idiots.

[MrRoboto81]

@archstan8

Is this the part where you lecture us on the infallibility of the Austrian School?

[damoncamp]

@archstan8 You have never traveled south of the border have you????? "Free trade" there's nothing free about it. You should grow your hair and read some real books like "las venas abiertas de latin america" Rome fell cause they didn't take care of the people !!!!! America is falling for the same damn reasons !!!!!! Wake up!!!!! I'm sick of people taking adavatgae of the poor!!!!!! Free trade legal robbery more like it::: People with knowledge must support small businesses and communities.!!!!!

[GuerrillaJoints]

0:36 holy shit! noam chomsky has four hands!

[ArchNME]

Well that explains our current immigration problem right there...

[elpinchewey666]

tax money is fueling the corporate system that is feeding off third world countries, which is now feeding off america into which there will only e ultra rich and super poor, we all muss get ready to live like a tird world nation and this cycle wont end. the most dissent we can do is only speak of the world getting fucked but actually changing the world is a lost fucking cause..

[189Maria]

Zack de la Rocha is one of the best musicians I know.................RATM music is so unique!!!

[iunnodiapeys]

@189Maria what does this have to do with the topic they are on, that has nothing to do with their music.

[dilmao]

@189Maria true, and Inside Out is even better! No Spiritual Surrender is one of the most intense recordings ever released.

[189Maria]

@dilmao I know...I love Iside OUT!!!

[buzzpuppet]

one word: legends