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  • go eat another desert phil you fat nazi. you dont even kno what your talkin bout. your just an old broke bum.

  • @Daileypaid ; What?

  • EGYPTIAN WERE THE SLAVES OF OUR GREEK PTOLEMAIC DYNASTY

  • there were no jewish slaves.

  • @yungworldz

    THE SLAVES

    WERE JEWISH PEOPLE

    -

    WHITE PEOPLE WERE SLAVES

    -

    AND

    ARAB - WERE BROWN

  • Haha, this guy doesnt have a life, nothing better to do. So i just DISLIKE it.

  • Jews have invented so much shit. Also thre reason for Christianity and Islam two of the most destructive religions on earth along with judianism.

    I realy doubt at all that the pyramids were built with 10.000's of men using decades just to built a grave for the kings. The king must have had some more urgent things to get these slaves to do but a dead bulding with grave for the king.

  • jews were NOT slaves in egypt.. it's a lie. archaeologists have shown that all the workers were PAID laborers and lived quite well and weren't slaves at all.

  • Actually the israelites were far more warlike than the egyptians, there is plenty of proof that they were more so underpaid workers insted of slaves. They were also given primitive beer ;) its not anti semitic just to say that the jews religious "history" is made up and a fairy tale

  • This video is completely and totally incorrect. The end.

  • @jdawg821 ; "This video is completely and totally incorrect."

    What specifically is incorrect? Thank you in advance.

  • someone mentioned historry channel's "Chasing Mummies" episode where they debunk the fable of Jewish slaves. Does anyone know of any other programs on History Channel that had a similar point. One told a history of the hebrews as mercenaries that ended up with no fighting work and were basically left with demeaning jobs that everyone else did in off season. I need to find more sources like your "chasing mummies" Someone Help please? I need precise sources/episodes.

  • Butt chin You kind of look like bill murray

  • I just saw a science-show on BBC. And now DNA-science confirms what archaeologists have been saying for a long time: There were no "jews" until just a few centuries before they authored "The Old Testament". Haha, it's so funny..it means that the whole book is all b.s from the beginning to the end! They never had a big kingdom or glorious kings, the "Exodus" never happened, and so on and so on. DNA shows that they were kanaanites/palestinians who moved up in the highlands for some reason.

  • @winterstellar And the archaeologists/historians think that they fled to escape taxation or being enrolled in the egyptian army. (The egyptians ruled Palestine back then, but they didn't enslave anybody and bring them to Egypt. But it's only natural that the people who developed the jewish culture, religion and wrote "the Holy Book", would make the egyptians "bad guys" in their fairy-tales about "Moses" and "Exodus" and so on. Cheers! : )

  • @winterstellar jews did not even exist that time. the palestina was habited by mesopotanians who are ancestors of jews. i guess moses is like rambo of jews. a guy that has magic staf that shoots fire and shit. i mean you thouth harry potter is witch craft well guess again.

  • Wrong. The term "Jew" comes from Judea, which existed after the Exodus. It would be like asking if Rome had any French slaves, knowing France came about well after Rome was destroyed.

    Now if you mean HEBREW slaves, there are some references in ancient Egyptian texts that could be referring to them.

  • He said that he is aware of so he accept that he might be wrong or is missing something. My question is, whether they were slaves or not how come that marrying next of kin didn't messed up their DNA but it does have messed the DNA of North Americans until today.

  • pyramid was bulid not just jewish slaves but niggers arabs too

  • @FelahMinBulaq niggrs arabs ??????

  • @ghettoksa i say jews ,niggers ,and arabs too

    but i didnt say arab are niggers cuzz arabs are white race

  • Onething people must understand there is a different between ancient egyptians and modern day egyptians. Majority of the egyptians in modern time are not even real egyptians. Egyptians in ancient time depicted their people usually dark brown to black. Their enemies were usually high red, yellowish or white for instance. Look on modern day egyptians especially in the lower egypt they look like these enemies.

  • Hmmm, well the predecessor of Khufu had slaves I think. From wikipedia:

    "Sneferu was able to capture large numbers of people from other nations, make them his prisoners and then integrate them into his labour force. During his raids into Nubia and Libya, he also captured their cattle for the sustenance of his massive labour force."

    So, it wouldn't be difficult to assume some slaves worked on the great pyramid. I could be mistaken though.

  • if you look at the military campaigns of rameses

    he conqured the lands of cannan and syria and took 90,000 captives

    many jewish/arab semitic slaves were

    found in ancient egypt read the histories of ancient egypt particular the conquest of palestene syria and part of arabia most slaves were semitics from asia or middle eastern decent b it arab or jew

  • But one thing I'll agree with this video is the Jewish slavery thing. Israel refers to all 12 tribes. Jews come from the house of Judea, so yea IF Israel built anything in Egypt (which I do think they did) it's safe to say Jews built. But I can also say Levites, Benjamintes etc built as well. If someone says only jews they need to go back to school and study. Either way who cares? Those monuments were used as target practice for the French back in the day.

  • PT 1.

    "THE KINDEST RACE of the ancient world WAS THAT OF THE EGYPTIANS;and if we direct our course to the NileValley of 3 or 4000 yrs ago,we shall find CONDITIONS THERE SO HUMANE that instances of Pharaonic cruelty such as we have been shown in some recent film dramas will be seen at once to reflect THE MENTALITY OF THE PRODUCER AND NOT THAT OF THE PEOPLE he thought to portray....." cont'd

    Sir Arthur Weigall (English Egyptologist)

    FLIGHTS INTO ANTIQUITY - p.58

    Hutchinson&Co., London,

  • @ChaoticBFly

    "Contrary to some popular depictions, the pyramid builders WERE NOT SLAVES OR FOREIGNERS. Excavated skeletons show that they were Egyptians who lived in villages developed and overseen by the pharaoh's supervisors."

    National Geographic Magazine

  • scientists figured out ages ago that the jews were never even allowed inside sacred Egypt since there cannot be found one word in the hebrew language that was influenced by Egyptians and not one Egyptian word was influenced by the hebrews. The jews wrote the "Exodus" lie into the bible to slander the Egyptians as terrible people out of spite for never having been allowed to participate in Egyptian life. Ask any Egyption scholar and they will educate you as to why the jews spread those lies

  • You guys are telling me that the people of Egypt built their own pyramids and such? -_- next thing you'll tell me is that the Romans built their own temples without slavery? Please, Egypt was known for it's conquests in Ethiopia and other countries and to say one of the biggest empires that existed back in the day didn't have slaves is something that belongs in a comedy club.

  • PT.2

    ".....the Egyptians WERE SELDOM CONCIOUSLY CRUEL; they DID NOT GRIND MEN TO PULP UNDER THE WHEELS OF THEIR JUGGERNAUGHTS, they DID NOT lash their laboring serfs, they DID NOT torture people,they DID NOT calously inflict death upon anybody-in fact THEY NEVER DID ANY OF THE THINGS of this sort which the film producers are at such pains to present to us."

    Sir Arthur Weigall (English Egyptologist)

    FLIGHTS INTO ANTIQUITY - p.58

    Hutchinson&Co., London,

  • The Maoist Rebel did this better.

    watch?v=P25NTWBH-0U

  • Pyramids are 100% Egyptians , Israelis are loosers and thieves who invaded Palestine and will get out very soon according to their own book :)

  • This video does not surprise me. More anti-semitism. honestly, I don't give a damn anymore. Ignorance and anti-Jewish feeling will always exist. I'm just glad not everyone is like the moron in this clip

  • Idiot. Pay attention or fuck off.

  • "In Exodus we have an account of the manner in which Jehovah delivered the Jews from Egyptian bondage. We now know that the Jews were never enslaved by the Egyptians; that the entire story is a fiction. We know this because there is not found in Hebrew a word of Egyptian origin and there is not found in the language of the Egyptians a word of Hebrew origin. So we know that the Hebrews and Egyptians could not have lived together." - Robert Ingersoll

    the jews were never enslaved in Egypt ever.

  • @ghostsshAdow234. Anti-Jewish? What does that mean. The word "Jew" and "semite" should not even be spoken in the same breath. JeWISH are simply Khazar converts to the religion and these are non semetic people near Russia. Your fake history lesson is over.....Zahi Hawass reported that the pryamids were not built by slaves under duress but rather skilled PAID craftsmen. This kinda blows that whole Exodus story and "let my people go" story, right out of the water. Folks are waking up...lol

  • @ghostsshAdow234

    Watch the History channel's "Chasing Mummies" episode where they debunk the fable of Jewish slaves. Are you going to say the History channel is anti-semetic as well? Thank Yaweh the established historical consensus doesn't agree with your asinine views.

  • @ghostsshAdow234 are you a so called jewish person?

  • @ghostsshAdow234 You never existed devil in Africa but as parasites. There is a litany of information out there on it. Even Freud talked about. You didn't make the pyramids nor any of the social sciences you've dumbed down and made yourselves rulers over. Semite/Semantics is language. You devils and with these made up terms and down's syndrome/autism are extremely annoying. We already know you're habitual liars and psychopaths. Shut up.

  • um... so because u say there is no evidence, then there isnt any. beside, like, a thousand references to jews being kept as slaves in egypt in the Torah, and several chapters describing the exodus of about a million jews from the egyptians, backed up by a manuscript found in the 19th century that backs up what is written in the torah, there isnt any evidence. also, you draw a distinction between "jewish" slavery and "israeli" slavery the people who were in the babylonian exile were in fact jews

  • you're just a stupid ignorant.

  • Translation: you were unable to spot any error in my video, and that frustrated you to such an extent that the best you could do in reply was to try an insult. How very sad your worthless life must be.

  • true

  • Thank-you, for telling the truth, great post

  • THe pyramids were NOT built by slaves jewish or otherwise. THe pyramids were built by geniuses at their craft. Were talking Master scientists,extraordinary mathematicians, and architectural and astronomical adepts. ANd the laborers were government workers not slaves. There is absolutely no evidence that the so called "egyptians" (kemet) ever held any slaves. And the cunning, devious, deceptive writers of the bible knew this. "tell pharaoh to let my people go". NOtice no name of this pharoah

  • @preadamite1 jews did not even exist at that time. but jews are desended from mesopotanians who where enemys of egypt. allso they claim that herodes killed babys but herodes was actualy one of the tolerant governers in palestina at that time. but religius people have and habit to see things that are not real.

  • thank you very much it answered my question i had. have a good day.

  • Modern day Jews are not the Jews of the Ancient Bible days. The Jews of the Ancient Bible days were the Hebrew Israelites the Jews of today who inhabit Israel is the decendents of the Khazaar empire research your history

  • Not all of them where, but the Pyramids of the late 12th Dynasty which made of Sun Dried Bricks rather then Stone like most where, there is plenty of evidence for it.

  • Yes, people often fabricate histories about their ancestors where they were victims and oppressed. to what end?

  • The king of Judah at the time, Josiah, wished to expand the territory of Judah to the north to include the "traditional" area of Israel; to help him achieve that he and his scribes fabricated a history where that land had been "given" to Judah by the god Yahweh--- an early form of "manifest destiny." It didn't work, however.

  • where did you get that? thats not in the tanach, or as u say, the bible

  • I think the illegal alliens in egypt at the time build the pyramids.

  • I was allways wonderd what archaeologic evidence their was that the jews were in egypt at all back then. The fact that their is any evedence. I find amazing that the bible could be that true.

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  • Hey I'm a jew and I didn't build the Pyramids but I might of owned the constructions company under some offshore corporation and the egyptions didn't even know they were working for me. Hell If I could only find the corporate papers I could make my claim and collect my royalties. P.s. My company is called Pyramid ??? for real.

  • The problem is that archaeology did not reveal a ton of Jewish slaves crossing the desert. The best archeology to date has revealed a small band of about 40 cainite slaves that escaped Egypt. These ex slaves found a settlement in the Sinai and discovered the local god, Yovh. They thanked him for their exodus out of slavery. That god became Yahweh.

    The documentary called the bible's buried secrets explains it a lot better. It probably has the real story as well.

  • All religions whine about being persecuted, when in fact, religions are the greatest persecutors. Two thousand years from now, if humans are not extinct, people will argue that the great and powerful Rush Limbaugh led the Christians to freedom in the U.S., when actually, Christianity is the slave master in the U.S.

  • He is right the aliens built the pyramids. Moses is just a fictional charecter.

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  • "I'm not saying you are wrong but I am wondering how you know?"

    Something not happening is the default: trillions of historical events that could have happened never happened. There is no evidence Hebrews were enslaved in Egypt in any noticable number.

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  • "they were hebrews,,not considered jewish yet"

    Yeah, I know. The Bible says they were enslaved in Egypt: they were not.

  • first of all why do you lool drunk in the video and second no one needs your take in what you "think" about Jews as slaves in Egypt, learn about your own race and where you come from we already know our history.

  • "first of all why do you lool drunk in the video and second ...."

    Instead of just trying to insult me, if you spotted anything I said in this video that is wrong, by all means please do tell me what the error(s) is/are so that I will not repeat my mistake in the future. I will very much appreciate it. Thank you.

  • The pyramids were built with paid labour. It is historical fact that the Egyptians had slaves, and the Jews were enslaved by Egypt - but most likely not to build any of the pyramids, even the lesser ones. They would have built other structures or worked in people's homes. Nowhere in the Scriptures does it say anything about Jews building the pyramids. People just assumed they did, because that's what Egypt is famous for building.

  • "and the Jews were enslaved by Egypt "

    No, they were not.

  • FINALLY THE TRUTH

  • thanku ive found somone who thinks on my wavelentgh, 2 all u fools there were no jewish slaves in egypt, just prisoners of war and immigrants, the jews have never had a proper home causing them 2 wander into other lands. pyramids was bulit like the trade centre through paid labour

  • first of all you got to remember that Jesus was a JEW. If you deny that there were jewish slaves you deny jesus

  • Despite the fact that you sound extremely ignorant there have never been any such thing as Jewish slaves Ever hear of World War 2? I am not Jewish and I think all religions are worse than useless, but I have a question for you. Why do you keep scratching your ass while youre recording yourself and trying to get people to think you have something important to say? You dont have anything important to say, but the constant ass scratching does not help your already terrible delivery.

  • "Despite the fact that you sound extremely ignora....."

    Please produce evidence the ancient Hebrews were enslaved in Egypt. Thank you.

  • "Why do you talk like a retard?"

    No.

    "Did you suffer a stroke or something?"

    I was shot in the back and half my face is paralized. How the bloody fuck is that any of your business?

  • Jews no nation no religion no god no dayafter

    i think that they can say anything they want cause there is nothing for them after this life but hell bye bye.

  • I think he is gay or something like that why he is talking by this way and i think that he has to be proud to be a slave for the egyptians.

  • my frend u r right so fucking right theres lots of proof 2 but then the jews do lie like facts tell truths this is y im not relgus there all so full of shit nice to see sumone tell sum facts round here thanks

  • I have never heard this about the Jews not being used as slaves. I have never heard anyone or anything all my life claiming anything but that Jews were enslaved by the ancient Egyptian civilization and used among other things to build the pyramids, from what I was told in first grade to the movie the 10 Commandments with Charlton Heston. Is there new evidence that it was paid, skilled labor? Please provide info.

    You slipped up on one thing for sure. There WERE Jewish slaves: in the third reich.

  • "I have never heard this about the Jews not being used as slaves."

    They were enslaved by Babylon; there is no evidence they were enslaved by Egypt, and there is evidence against the belief they were enslaved by Egypt.

    "Is there new evidence that it was paid, skilled labor? Please provide info."

    No: there is old evidence that the Great Pyramid and the lesser pyramids were built by paid labor---- some of the ancient pay slips still exist. It was seasonal work, between harvests. Google explains

  • I would post a video response but you have disabled it. You can't make claims and then refuse to hear alternative arguments. Your credibility is lost if you refused to be effectively challenged. Sorry.

  • "I would post a video response but you have disabled it."

    No, I have not.

    "You can't make claims and then refuse to hear alternative arguments."

    You mean like a Fundamentalist Christian? There are no valid "alternative arguments" regarding the subject: there is no evidence the Hebrews were enslaved by Egypt.

  • I posted my vid on the "Jews in Egypt." Note that while I realize the the reference to the nation became "Jews" later, it is based on those from the tribe of Judah and so technically if any Judahites were with the other "Israelites" then there were "Jews" in Egypt. I was going to be smart and change the title to "Isrealites in Egypt" but since Judahites are "Jews" its a technical point, just a matter of word definition. So in the vid "Jews" are Judahites, if you wish. Thanks Desertphile

  • I heard that the Hebrews were the Hyksos? Had fudged their history for ancient propaganda.

  • why in the first commandment, does it say that god freed the slaves (JEWISH PEOPLE) FROM the bondage of eygpt?

  • "why in the first commandment, does it say that god freed the slaves (JEWISH PEOPLE) FROM the bondage of eygpt?"

    Because the ignorant savages who wrote the Bible did not know any better. Why is that not obvious to you?

  • thank you

  • The Bible is true and we have plenty of archaeological proof now precisely when the Jews were in Egypt and when they left, specifically at the end of the reign of Amenhotep III. The Ten Plagues are what caused Akhenaten, the next king, to convert to--that's right--MONOTHEISM. Your claims about the Bible are your opinion but obviously you can't prove it. It's obvious to me the Bible is true. To you ignorant. So it's a matter of whether U are smarter than me or not, I guess? Are you? (smile)

  • "The Bible is true and we have plenty of archaeological proof now precisely when the Jews were in Egypt...."

    Sorry, but there's no evidence to support that belief.

  • ROFL! You mean, YOU haven't seen any evidence yet. Funny you didn't ask about the evidence I have. So there IS evidence, but apparently you are out of touch. OR you are afraid your position will be challenged and you're just in denial. The Jews left during the reign of Amenhotep III followed by Akhenaten. That's where the evidence is.

  • "You mean, YOU haven't seen any evidence yet."

    Nobody has. If you have evidence the Hebrews were enslaved in Egypt, write a paper for "Biblical Archeology" and become world-famous. What are you waiting for?

  • Hi Desertphile - I found the page to post a vid response and posted my "Jews in Egypt" confirmed for starters. Please commment. Thanks.

  • Good evidence. You saying something is true is good enough for me, and should be for everyone!

  • "Good evidence. You saying something is tru...."

    Idiot.

  • I didn't think an intellectual like you would stoop to name calling! Perhaps I got the wrong impression from your incredible videos....

  • "I didn't think an intellectual like you would stoop to name calling!"

    What would *YOU* call someone who believes the word of another person is "good evidence?"

  • SARCASM. Every comment I have left.

  • Haha, hollow earth? You probably missed your geography classes, huh?

    By the way, what has the shape and form of the earth to do with biology?

  • But of course, it was considered an honor by the Egyptian people to construct the pyramids, which were the monuments to their Almighy Godly Pharaoh's Eternal Soul.

    Amazing what the fear of godlike power can do to a people.

  • I like the way you talk dude; like Charles Bukowski!

  • Who said that the Jews built the Pyramids? The bible only says that Hebrews built the cities of Pithom and Rameses as store-cities. The Jewish people dedscended from the Hebrews so yeah, they can't claim to be responsible for the pyramids, but their ancestors did labor in Egypt for a long period of time. By the way, I am sure u know that the strange looking horse in the bigining is a camel.

  • Beginning* sry bout the typo

  • ".... but their ancestors did labor in Egypt for a long period of time."

    Not as a group and not as slaves---- the Book of Exodus got it wrong.

  • The Egyptians had plenty of slaves, from all over. Why couldn't the Hebrews be slaves as a group?

  • "Why couldn't the Hebrews be slaves as a group?"

    They certainly could have, and may have. The problem is there is no evidence they enslaved the Hebrews in any noticeable numbers, and very much not in the numbers "Exodus" says. There is a huge amount of evidence to show that the Hebrews were enslaved by Canaan and also by Babylon (such as the Hebrew cosmology, pantheon, and language borrowing from both the Canaanites and the Babylonians) but none that shows Egypt enslaved them as a group.

  • It is possible that if the story of Exodus took place during the Reign of Achmose, the Hebrew exodus was actually the Hyksos expulsion from Egypt.

  • "It is possible that if the story of Exodus took place during the Reign of Achmose, the Hebrew exodus was actually the Hyksos expulsion from Egypt."

    That means Exodus is, of course, wrong. The Hyksos ruled Egypt for 108 years: they were not enslaved by Egypt for 440 years.

  • Can we really be sure?

  • "Can we really be sure?"

    Certainty only exists for you cult nuts; scientists only deal with high probabilities.

    There is no evidence any of the Hebrew tribes were enslaved by Egypt; there is no evidence "the 'exodus'" happened; there is excellent evidence the Bible's account is wrong--- such as slaves owning property and slaves in Egypt.

  • If the Hebrews were enslaved by the Ancient Egyptian government itself, it wouldn't be outrageous to say that along with their quarters in an area called Goshen (not sure if that's the name) they would have their own property.

  • Some ct's think that they were built by aliens or helped by aliens, reptillains or were moved into the fourth dimension so they would be easier to move (someone actually said this to me).

  • In the related videos, this video appears, uploaded by MaEDiplockqwprlt.. Another stolen video?

    I just noticed there is a flagging option to flag 'infringes my rights...copyright'

  • "n the related videos, this video appears, uploaded by MaEDiplockqwprlt.."

    Bloody fuck! Goddamned pornographers. Thank you for letting me know: I will go complain right now.

  • you know desertphile,you have too much time on your hands.....and that's a good thing :)

  • Your are correct Facecageworshipper and I acknowledge my error.. however my estimate of the distance is still accurate. You overlooked the fact that both lie in the plane of the Local Supercluster yet the Local Group is moving DOWNWARD through the super-galactic plane at a velocity of 600 kilometers per second relative to the Cosmic Microwave Background. It's a common mistake.. And yeah those Eridanus A fuckers are total boozehounds!

  • Wait... so YOU built the pyramids?

  • LOL!! "I haven't got anything else to bitch 'n' complain about.."

  • It kind of makes you wonder the logic of having slaves build anything.

    "I'm the pharoah so I want my tomb to be the most incredible thing in the world and it should last for ever. Let's let starved, abused, unwilling and hostile forced labour do the construction for us. Better yet lets keep tens of thousands of these hostile individuals together in the same place. Yeah we're so clever people will think we came from another planet!"

  • Slaves did not build the pyramids. Maybe worked in the quarrys or pulled stones but thats unlikely.

  • What about the other monuments?

  • One minor correction: the nazis did use jews as slave labor.

  • LOL good stuff.

  • It goes on because most people are not taught this in high school. I was told the same shit (slaves, but wasn't Jews that's from the bible) in high school. It wasn't until last year when I learned they were payed. And a lot of the workers were even payed in Beer :)

  • bitching and complaining ftw

  • I always thought, that Nazi would deny the Holocaust

  • Who is to say that those pyramids were started by one group and finished by another group? For all you know, those pyramids might have been first started by Israelite Slaves only to be finished by Egyptian workers.

  • Perhaps the Egyptians have polished the gold. If someone builds an object today, they will tell u the name of the architect, but not the names of the workers

  • "For all you know, those pyramids might have been first started by Israelite Slaves"

    For all you know, those pyramids might have been started by Martians.

    Were you there?

  • Where YOU there?

  • Nope, but I asked you first. Were you?

  • No I was not there. I did not see the Hebrews build the pyramids. Let me ask you this: Were you there to see man supposedly "evolve"?

  • Evolution is observable fact. Take your creationist bullshit back to the discovery center you science terrorist.

  • Dude, you have missed the boat!! There are more fallacies in evolution than creationism. And no, I do not have any problem with science!!! Creationists like myself know WHO created the universe yet we want to know WHY.

  • Missed the boat? You're about 4000 years behind most people buddy, the boat you missed has already decomposed completely and it's nutrients absobed by the world around it. Don't pretend you know anything about science, you're the equivalant of a terrorist to science. Creationists have no interest in the scientific method or proving anything. You're so full of shit it's coming out of your ears.

  • Oh really? Has it ever occured to you that most Creationists use science to argue their claims?

  • Science? HAHAHAHAHAHA that's the best joke I've ever heard in my life. Did you teach science in high school for 15 years like Kent Hovind? Creationists are scientifically illiterate, and thats the only way they can hold their beliefs. Have you ever noticed that the "scientists" promoting creationism are never biologists? Their either lawyers, or biochemists, or complete frauds like Hovind who got his degree from a diploma mill.

  • "Has it ever occured to you that most Creationists use science to argue their claims?"

    ABUSE science. ABUSE. That's the word you're looking for M'Lord. A simple typo I'm sure.

  • LardShadrach- Many creationists acknowledge that many other creationists have used and continue to use fallacious arguments. They had a list somewhere of ones not to use, but it's easier to find them in creationist videos.

    I've seen creationists use science. They use the concept to look credible, not any of the actual science. So if you think creationism is science, you Do have a problem with science (lack of understanding)

    If you can show me otherwise, then I'd recant my position.

  • "Has it ever occured to you that most Creationists use science to argue their claims?"

    Please name one. Thank you.

  • Well, Carl Baugh is one Creationist who uses Science!!

  • "Well, Carl Baugh is one Creationist who uses Science!!"

    Not when it comes to Creationism.

  • What about Intelligent Designers?

  • ID = Creationism in a bad disguise. It has already failed, IN COURT no less.

  • Kent Hovind

  • "There are more fallacies in evolution...."

    No. It is impossible for natural phenomena to have "fallacies."

  • Oh but there is! Why are we not getting anymore complex as time goes on? SURELY our biology SHOULD be becoming more and more complex with new organs and new abilities, yet there is one small problem. NOTHING HAS COME!!

  • Firstly, evolution doesn't mean we should be getting more complex. If it means the life form is more likely to survive it will become less complex, whatever that means. Please read up on your theory. Secondly, we have changed a great deal over time. You not being able to see it in your immediate surrounding doesn't negate anything. Evolution is a slow process.

  • "Oh but there is!"

    Please provide an example of a fallacy evolution has. Thank you.

  • "I did not see the Hebrews build the pyramids."

    The Hebrews did not build any pyramids.

    "Were you there to see man supposedly "evolve"?"

    Changing the subject will not work: produce evidence Hebrews built a pyramid.

  • "Were you there to see man supposedly 'evolve'?"

    Well to tell you the truth I belive that I am watching the creationists brain slowly become vestigial.

  • I think all but very insignificant sections of the creationist mind have already become vestigal.

  • "For all you know, those pyramids might have been first started by Israelite Slaves...."

    There is no evidence to suggest that is the case.

  • THAT IS A CAMEL!!!

  • Jewdaism did not exist is egypt times. this religion established during the exodus, and that was after they builded the Pyramids. Are slaves payed ? yes they are- do workers live in slavery ? - yes; so workers are payed slaves, means, if you are payed for your work, you´re actually a slave. it doesn´t matter if you are payed with money or just with food

  • the word jew is what one from the tribe of judah is called. if the 12 twelve tribes of israel were enslaved then so was the tribe of judah and therefor jews were also enslaved.

  • "if the 12 twelve tribes of israel were enslaved...."

    Not in Egypt, as far as anyone knows: there's no evidence to suggest the Bible's story is true. One Semitic tribe was ejected from Egypt (the Hyksos around the year -1,535 Gregorian Calendar) perhaps because their community was diseased. They ruled Egypt for about 108 years before being ejected by Egyptians; the exodus would therefore be a military expulsion of an invasion force by the Egyptians, and not a slave revolt.

  • today, everyone can say anything about history. It is not true that Israel made no slave uprising. And it is also wrong to say, that Jews would have a own race.

    It is also a Nazi logic to imply from the people of Israel to a race

  • That is so grammatically screwed up . . . do even YOU know what you were trying to say?

  • i just tried to reconstruct history... and i did already say, that i don´t believe, that pyramids were build by humans hands, and that i don´t believe that they are 4000 y old

  • "It is not true that Israel made no slave uprising"

    We're sorry, but we only read English here at the ranch. Care to try your comment in English?

    The ancient Hebrews were not slaves in Egypt: there is no evidence they were. Deal with that.

  • the relation between the hyksos and the hebrews can not be definitively established. some evidents of similar language and name types are found. there are several possible scenarios to the hyksos/hebrew relationship including yours. but with out any new historical of archaeological evidence one can only exercise bare speculation.

  • i don´t know which history he´s according to. the Bible says, that people of Israel builded it all. I believe that all people came from Adam and Eve, so I do not make distinction between people at all.

    A better question is, how the pyramids were builded ? it´s just impossible with 3000y old the tecnical standard even to carry the material through the desert

  • Perhaps, the materials and the tools for the building came from a more advanced civilization. 3000years ago, there was already a peoples-front, they had revolutionary science books and a literaly history

  • "...how the pyramids were builded?"

    "Builded?" The Great Pyramid was built using rope, ramps, copper tools, and human arms: that's all that was needed to do the cutting and moving and placing of the rock.

  • There was a documentary on Discovery channel a couple years ago where they built a mini-pyramid using ancient techniques. With less than a dozen or so people they magically dragged a giant block of limestone up a hill. They wrapped it in ropes and rolled it up a hill by pulling and unravelling the ropes. Once they got it moving it went at a pretty good clip. Alien/pyramid believers need to realize that the pyramids took 20 years to be built. Plenty of time to do it by hand.

  • I didn't think believing in the bible meant you could safely disregard actual history and research... oh wait, nevermind.

  • ROFLOL! You are so right. If I had seen that I'd have done the same thing...

    and I assume you knew that was a Camel not a funny looking horse.

  • There are negro extremist hate cults out there that demand that the builders employed black people whose skin hue magically allowed them to tap in to cosmic forces to build the structures. It's utterly insane -- Creationistic levels of stupidity "Mormon Anthropology" levels of stupidity.

  • I guess they could have been referring to the bodies vitamin production from the sunlight in that climate but yeah, alot of those extremist also claim to have been the original Jews

  • "... whose skin hue magically allowed them to tap in to cosmic forces to build the structures."

    Indeed that is a "Nation of Islam" belief--- the blacker the skin, the more magic one has.