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@TheAlienesque Surely that was the whole point? it was just crap, but very funny with it. Dads army, Up Pompei, It aint half hot mum, etc etc, they all were in the same vein, and all very funny too.
I like Kochanski. I understand people's feelings about her are influenced by Rimmer leaving, but his departure was never meant to be permanent, it was just a break so he could concentrate on an overly-full work schedule. The scenes where her and Kryten clash over Lister are some of the funniest in the later series in my opinion.
i used to feel similar- but time has mellowed me-I recognize Kochanski has a few good moments on Red Dwarf- but she should have been given way less scenes- I agree- and her character comes across cold hearted sometimes
Kochanski pushed Cat out... He had way less lines when she came into it, Danny John Jules is a fantastic actor and he should have had a much bigger part in the series where Kochanski joined the crew
Believe it or not, none of the Kochanskis featured in the series I believed were any any good. But, the writers should have portrayed Kochanski from the book "Last Human" in series 7 and 8, as the character had class, a rough-&-tumble personality, and brains that would have made her an integral and essential addition to the Red Dwarf crew. Unfortunately, for reasons unknown, the writers made Kochanski a stuck-up ponce with issues concerning cottage cheese with pineapple chucks. Why?
A critical concept behind RD was that Dave Lister is the last man alive - the last human alive. Add Kochanski was a very poor decision. Better to leave it at three (characters) and expand the Cat's role than that. But if you really want to add her, make it the final episode.
They should've kept Clare Grogan as Kochanski. I don't think Chloe Annett's that good for comedy. Having an upper middle-class English Kochanski over a Scottish ballsy Kochanski weakened the script. Not a good move.
They should have brought back Clare Grogan she was the "real" Kochanski, but i think there was a problem with her agent asking for too much money, it was the same with Peterson.
I'm not sure about Todhunter? we never saw him eva.
The guy who was Todhunter became a big name with 'Cold feet'...probably the same. Either too much £££ to return or didn't want to retread old ground. Actors are funny like that :D
@ZoahLord Yeah I'd go with that. She felt like she had a much stronger character trait overall (and no I'm not just saying that because I'm a scot). She seemed to be "Impish", which would have been a good trait to have with the rest of the crew.
You never realy get told how they lost the Dwarf, just somethig Rimmer said to Lister ' Go come on, your the one that can't remember where you parked it '
I did not mind series 6 when they were living in the Bug, allthough when i first saw it in 1996? i did shout out ' That's NOT Starbug '.
And don't get me started on why i hate the series that came after 6.
Yer they might have, i just rember reading in a book, i think it was called the complete guide of Red Dwarf?, but not sure, that the model that they had fell off a self in the old studio's and someone through it away.
I'd say Kochanski was an independent, clever and slightly upper-class officer from an alternate universe. Who suddenly found herself living in dingier surroundings (to what she was used to) with a group of all-males.
I think Doug Naylor has since regretted the decision of including a female character to an all-male cast, as "Back To Earth" didn't include her at all (apart from a cameo).
When it comes back in 2011 I think it will be like S1 to 6, where Lister is searching for Kochanski again.
@BBrooksMr - Having been a Dwarfer for 19yrs i can't say that Red Dwarf was better with her in it i'm sorry, she didn't need to be there and it was not even the REAL Kochanski that was C P Grogan.
I think if they are going to bring it back next year Doug Naylor should team up with another old comedy writer like Ben Elton to get it back to the old boys from the dwarf.
@TamaraAndTheDemon Now that would be good, Ben would be perfect in writing lines for Rimmer and Holly..
Remember the classic quotes and put downs that he wrote for the character of Blackadder, he could create similar lines for Rimmer.
I'm a Dwarfer too and "Back to Earth" (in my view) was a return to form, I thought it was great. I do love S7 and 8 (as I said) but they weren't as good as S1 to 6, they were classics.
@TamaraAndTheDemon I too would love Doug to get it back to being the old boys from the Dwarf again. I'd love to see another "Polymorph" episode again or they could a "Dr. Who-esque" story where they meet Ace Rimmer in a different timeline. Where we find out more about what he did in-between "Dimension Jump" and "Stoke me a Clipper".
But it's impossible now, for the character of Kochanski to not be included, so she'll more than likely return at some point. Maybe not for S10 but probably S11.
@BBrooksMr - Why does she have to be in the show?, she's not needed they should just write her out at the begining of the credits like they did with Jim and Bexley at the start of series 3.
Any another thing how could Ace Rimmer have died, he said he was a hard light hologram, but in Leigon our Rimmer was turned into a hard light hologram and Leigon said to him "you can not be hurt"
The closing moments of BTE showed Lister vowing to track down Kochanski, to try to win her back. I can't really see that storyline being dropped.
As for Ace, Sci-Fi shows are famous for not keeping up with continuity. "Doctor Who" has done it loads of times, another great one from Red Dwarf is in the opening moments of episode 1 of S6.
How come Lister's hair and nails have grown when he's been put into Stasis, if it's meant to happen, then why didn't it in "The End". :-)
@BBrooksMr -How can they when the conection to her dimension was lost?, and seeing that series 7 and 8 were shit having a hole series on finding that moaning git will be even more shit.
i know that Doug Nalyor with never be abel to get the old show back (well not on his own any way), the new Red Dwarfs seemed to pay more attension to special effect's than they did the scripted.
i just can't bare seeing my old friend being turned into soming i hate.
@TamaraAndTheDemon I agree about the special effects, I remember getting annoyed with the CGI Starbug and the similarly CGI'ed Red Dwarf. The effects looked to cheap and it made the ships look to clean. :-)
I much preferred the miniatures, do you remember the successful but ultimately doomed "Re-mastered" versions of S1 to 3?
We'll just have to wait until 2011 to see how it all pan's out, I'm hoping for the best.
@BBrooksMr - i read some where that the original model of the Dwarf got put in the bin by some mad cleaning ladie, i don't know what they were thinking of making blue miget dance that was so stupid didn't make me laugh.
Yer i watched the Remastered versions that did not like them they edited alot of things out like the audicence laughter in Backwards "name" "KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK" " I'll just put Kyten", "can you see that space craft?" " Where?".
Blimey, I can't believe there are so many Kochanski haters on here, I think the character and Chloe Annett's peformance was very good.
I do agree that adding a female character did destroy the some of the male dynamic and feel of the show. But it wasn't all that bad, the whole Kryten vs. Kochanski plotline had some very funny moments. (In particular Krytens comedy woman walk) and she fitted in perfectly. Also (you can't deny) she was a Hottie and very Sexy.
@BBrooksMr -It was bad adding Kochanski was a totally shit idea she was not needed in any way through out the show she was just in the way.
Thought out the 6 series of red dwarf you got to know the different pesonalites of the characters, Rimmer - every one hated him the only one he looked out for was him self, the Cat -was shallow and selfish nothing mattered to has long as he looked great, Kryten -was very loyal and would go out of his way to make the crew members happy, apart from Rimmer.
@BBrooksMr -Lister was a total bum but when the chips were down you could always count on him, Holly- did her best to control the ship but she did not know really what she was doing, Kochanski.........................thats all i can say about her she brought NOTHING to the show !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This was really the end of the real comedy for Red Dwarf. Rimmer had left (yes he comes back but he wasn't OUR Rimmer), and of course Rob Grant had also left the show which for me was the biggest loss. Without Rob all the best gags had gone. Naylor's idea of bringing back Kochanski may have worked if it had been the original Kochanski and not some moaning bint who had nothing going for her and was nothing like the woman Lister fell in love with 3 million years before.
@rj28sc "Rob Grant had also left the show which for me was the biggest loss" I totally agree. Doug Naylor completely Americanised the show, focusing too much on the love interest and the emotional moments, and not enough on the comedy. He basically turned it into a comedy drama (check out the stupid close up at 00:39). Meh.
@LeoArctica But he didn't remember what he had done in the past seasons. I enjoyed the last season, but I think that it would have been better if it hadn't ended so cryptically.
@TamaraAndTheDemon I agree. I think they just took her on to fill the space when Rimmer had to be written out. Of course, she couldn't fill even the tiniest bit of that space. I really missed the old smeeeeg heeeeead.
@TamaraAndTheDemon Don't blame her, the entire show went to shit after series 6. The common denominator is the departure of creator/writer Rob Grant. For whatever reason, Doug Naylor just couldn't write funny without him.
@Chrisindapurplehouse - I think i was a void because kryten called it none space, but what ever it was i wished that the stupid women had died then i might have enjoyed the episodes after series 6.
Why couldn't she be just one of the female staff brought back to life?
The story could have then continued, without the 'explaining Kochanski' awkwardness.
For example, the crew member who said "I've got male genitals!" would have been a good one. Carol? Maybe. She was senior in ranking to all of them. And she also happened to share a brief moment with them.
Alas, the story went elsewhere, got muddled, and died.
I never understood the end to this episode. Lister goes back in time and is back on Earth right? Well why the hell doesn't he just stay there and where did they suddenly gain the ability to do that? You think they would've gone back to Earth sooner. Blah. Huge plot hole.
The only explanation I can think of is he had a photograph of the bar for some reason and they used that method to time travel because then his excuse is he couldn't leave the area of the picture.
They still have the time warp drive "I dunno the actual name" Legion gave to them, which they also use in Tikka to Ride. I'm not sure but I think they destroyed it afterwards.
@SeekerLancer -Yer Timeslides that would explain it, one thing i can't understand is the name Ouroboros, though out the whole of Red Dwarf Lister claims he does not know what was writen on his box, he was just found in it.
@TamaraAndTheDemon ouroboros, it is a neverending cycle, so basicly it is symbolic of lister meeting kochanski, getting himself as a baby, going back in time, placing himself in the pub, growing up, meeting kochanski, getting himself as a baby, etc
Ah yes but through out Red Dwarf, Lister always said he never knew what was writen on the box.
He said that the name was our Rob or Ross, how is he then call David?, and Kachanski never said she loved or liked David, she was always the girl that Lister had a big crush on and fanastised sleeping with her, that's as far as it was going to get.
Red Dwarf is meant to have a crazy and random story to it, then they introduced some sort of love story which made it all soppy and no-one was really as crazy as before (especially Lister).
It was better with the four boys, with Rimmer that is! :)
@Rainbowdalek - oh yer Kochanski added something new alright, she turned a jewel of a cult sci-fi programme into a pile of shit.
Oh and if you think she added something fun watch series 1 to 6 check out how many time you laugh and compair it to the series after when she's in it .
I liked Kochanski too. I beleive she stoped it from being an all boys club and gave a different angle and accent. It gave us girls a good excuse for watching sci-fi. The concept of a Glaswegian with a posh English was a little strange though. Favourite Kochanski moment? The wrong day of the month, I loved her revenge too.
This I agree with you, Norman was better than Hattie. But when Kochanski was there the female Holly wasn't. Anyway, there wasn't much Holly could do in responce when the guys got up to mischeif was there? But Kochanski could and did. ; )
@LoriCiani -I'm a Dwarfer i have been for 19 yrs and i'm a girl, how can you think she is better than Rimmer. and as a Dwarfer for 19yrs i feel it is heart breaking to see what has happened to Red Dwarf now. And it was not an all boys club there was holly and the episodes where more funner and better written with the boys from the dwarf, and thats a fact!!!!!!!!!.
"no body really likes Kockanski - me included"...and ME EXCLUDED. Sorry, my wife and I LOVE her, so your claim to 'nobody' is rendered moot. How does that foot taste in your mouth...need some curry to wash it down, mate?...;)
I'm going to agree with you since everybody else disagreed. I thought Kochanski's character was a bore. In theory having a normal person amidst a ship of loons sounds like it has comic potential but it just didn't work for me. The lack of Rimmer also hurt a lot.
I feel like she never really meshed properly with the other characters and there was nothing intrinsically interesting about her. All of the jokes including her weren't much more than "Hahaha you're a woman isn't that funny!"
yes...hay ho as my mum often says. nice to have experienced both characters - still Rimmer was made a hologram to keep lister sane! and it I'm sure it looks funnier watching him dance to 'tongue tied' than if Kochanski did. Still...alright character though.
Anyway...great series. Love the one where time is running backwards and people backwards their drinks. and kryten's carved head is the best (looks like my science teacher) oo i could go on forever!
Rimmer left to shoot the film Tomb Raider, but I think all the original crew were great. It was one of them wierd shows where I liked all the characters (Apart from Kochanski)
yeah i wasnt keen on Kochanski she looks great but she was just annoying to watch snobbyness in a women is a huge turn off but she tamed it down and became bareable
I think he chose to leave himself because he was working on Spitting Image and the Brittas Empire, but yeah, the episodes with him in were the best of this series.
agreed. i heard he was leaving before watching this series and thought red dwarf would lose it. personally i think i was right - a woman being in it takes out the whole point of listers character
I think Kochanski was meant to be hated as a new character initially, but watching some of Series VII/and VIII recently im so glad she came back into it, for me now shes a natural fit in the team.
He yells MUM because its him and her inside the envitro tube that make him to be left under the pool table, so shes his mum and his ex, as the cat says "dude, you should write a letter to playboy, i bet you'd get it printed!"
God I hate Kristine Kochanski. Why is it that whenever shows go downhill that they think adding a hot love interest [who is alway such a bitch] is they way to boost ratings?
Yeah. I hope that in this straight-to-dvd thing they're doing soon they'll find some excuse to replace her character with one just like the original Kochanski; sweet and intelligent rather than uptight and aggressive. Time for some space-time continuum weirdness to save the day and deliver a happy ending. :)
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I just think compared to the rest of the cast he is an inferior actor, and I mean the cast of Corination Street, his peotry was that priggish self righteous lefty nonsense that was so fashionable in the early '80s, right on.
shut up, he's an amazing actor, a great + very energetic presenter, and yes he started as a poet on Wogan, but he was great and inspiring then too!!! if ya dont know what your talking about, never open your mouths, cos Craig is one of the greats and is a better actor than you'll ever fukin be...retard!
please, this show wouldnt have worked if Craig hadnt catched Lister's personality and his responses to other characters spot on, and you know it! by the way, last i checked no-one asked you, so next time you want to critise an actor trying his hardest to play a role...DONT, dickhead! and if you think im being harsh, well im an actor aswell, so i know what im on about...which is more than can be said for you!
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No-one asked you either you spotty teenager, and if I was you I'd look for a some-one more capable to admire. As for work, you don't know what I do, is any of your work on you tube? I wouldn't mind taking a look, with an open mind ofcourse.
spooty teenager?! HA, im a 25-year-old professional actor, im currently doing stand-up gigs and am in plays all around Bristol! the reason i come on here is to pick up acting tips from watching others work, such as Craig Charles and Chris Barrie for the comedy aspects! true, im not a 'big time' actor at the moment, but at least im not some cyber geek who's first and only lover is a latex glove on his right hand critising actor's who are AT LEAST 1000% times better than he is!...oh, and YOUR MA!
hey u two break it up... lets just enjoy the clip hey. its an oldish series that still makes many people double over in laugthter so thats got to mean somethin?
oh yea, i agree wit you, this fight is stupid and the clip is one of many, many great ones from the series, but this guy 'crom08well' just wont stop with the insults 2 Craig and his acting career, and thats what im defending. the fact that in every comment this guy has insulted Craig just irritates me as an actor who is trying 2 follow in, to name 1, Craig's example as a great actor. so im happy 2 stop, i jus wish the otha guy would 2, cos 2bh, im fed up wit the w*nker =@ sorry 'CrazyMissKaz' =)
no problemo, wasnt you insulting the actors =) yea, ive worked with green screen before and it is kind of alot of fun, with all the wires and such, but the biggist reward is seeing all your hard work on the screen when all the animations been added, its like being handed a second christmas =) but yea, sorry again bout the arguement CrazyMissKaz =)
well at the moment just extra parts, the only notible things ive done are dr who and primevil, so not much, but well all big things start off small eh? what type of singing do you do?
that is still realy cool:) extras play a big part in anything just as much as the actors...there just less noticed. totaly. i just sing for small charity things usaly, some rock types, but mostly ballad type songs and songs from musicals. i've sung (with a chior tho) for the queen. i dont think im good though as i get realy bad stage fright (people bully me alot):(
aw ya know what, i used to be bullied alot back in my school days. but if you rise above it and never let it get you down, it all works out. cos i can tell you truthfully that while im acting when i can, living in my own flat type thing, and also have a job as a bar-man, all the people that bullyed me are: still living with their parents, not amounting to anything, and/or wanted by the police/in jail. so if you have a talent, use and enjoy it, and dont let anyone stop you! =) true story btw =D
she was okay, but she was'nt Rimmer...
animelover5076 2 months ago
Only good thing that came of that bitch was kryten's emotional outbursts with lister
TallDarkAndDashing 3 months ago
1:52 leave it to a woman to complain about how you save her life.
cooldaddyjames2814 5 months ago
@cooldaddyjames2814 basically the whole joke of the video...nice one trying to hijack a laugh
benrfc 1 month ago
Stoke me a clipper, I'll be back for christmas. Love that line.
Thecinnamonmonkey 6 months ago 3
@steven87gill1
I would what?????
TamaraAndTheDemon 6 months ago
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tarbis1 6 months ago
@TheAlienesque Surely that was the whole point? it was just crap, but very funny with it. Dads army, Up Pompei, It aint half hot mum, etc etc, they all were in the same vein, and all very funny too.
TIMMEH19991 6 months ago
@TheAlienesque i know for a fact so u dont have to look it up lol and it wasnt too bad i thought :)
ferrari885 7 months ago
@TheAlienesque theyr back on on dave start of next year with new series :)
ferrari885 7 months ago
B.T.E was a great return to old dwarf. hope the new series is even better :DD
killallneds 7 months ago
Kris ruined the show it becam erubish after she appeared i know shes ment to be listers true love and all but she fucked it up for me anyway
Kris12345170995 8 months ago
Personally I Love series 7, 8 and BTE.
6 isn't that Good, A Bit to Formulaic for my tastes
elixaristhedragon 8 months ago
@elixaristhedragon You don't like series 6? Blasphemy!
2601andrew 7 months ago
@2601andrew
I just don't think its as good as all the fans say it is.
elixaristhedragon 7 months ago
I like Kochanski. I understand people's feelings about her are influenced by Rimmer leaving, but his departure was never meant to be permanent, it was just a break so he could concentrate on an overly-full work schedule. The scenes where her and Kryten clash over Lister are some of the funniest in the later series in my opinion.
hawkbit13 9 months ago 5
@hawkbit13 - She was pretty good in Series 8 I thought - more-so than Series 7. In 8 she was alot funnier.
CitroenC407 8 months ago
I liked the original Kochanski. This cow? Not so much.
katfairy1969 9 months ago 2
..I didn´t like the book- would You believe it?!::
finehomemadewine 10 months ago
Red Dwarf was ruined by losing half its writing team
SenorKristobbalVLog 1 year ago 15
i used to feel similar- but time has mellowed me-I recognize Kochanski has a few good moments on Red Dwarf- but she should have been given way less scenes- I agree- and her character comes across cold hearted sometimes
ValterraBlue72 1 year ago
Kochanski pushed Cat out... He had way less lines when she came into it, Danny John Jules is a fantastic actor and he should have had a much bigger part in the series where Kochanski joined the crew
BlaiddDrwg2009 1 year ago 6
Kochanski would have been alright as an occasional guest star, or a one-time appearance, but to replace Rimmer? Mis-taaaake!
EddieTheFishReturns 1 year ago 5
I don't think I'd mind Kochanski as much if she hadn't (sort-of) replaced Rimmer.
inspector1stclass 1 year ago 2
Believe it or not, none of the Kochanskis featured in the series I believed were any any good. But, the writers should have portrayed Kochanski from the book "Last Human" in series 7 and 8, as the character had class, a rough-&-tumble personality, and brains that would have made her an integral and essential addition to the Red Dwarf crew. Unfortunately, for reasons unknown, the writers made Kochanski a stuck-up ponce with issues concerning cottage cheese with pineapple chucks. Why?
chrisince107 1 year ago 3
Original Kochanski was better.
OktoberSunset 1 year ago
A critical concept behind RD was that Dave Lister is the last man alive - the last human alive. Add Kochanski was a very poor decision. Better to leave it at three (characters) and expand the Cat's role than that. But if you really want to add her, make it the final episode.
FunnyHedger 1 year ago
@FunnyHedger
Amen, she shows up in the final episode 2 mins at the very very end just at the second before the end credits turn up.
TamaraAndTheDemon 1 year ago
With everything everyone has said, there was MANY times Kryten reaped the comedy reward because of her. And also, she's hot.
I do also agree that Rimmer's absence was notable.
6Nicad6emus6 1 year ago
They should've kept Clare Grogan as Kochanski. I don't think Chloe Annett's that good for comedy. Having an upper middle-class English Kochanski over a Scottish ballsy Kochanski weakened the script. Not a good move.
ZoahLord 1 year ago 6
@ZoahLord
They should have brought back Clare Grogan she was the "real" Kochanski, but i think there was a problem with her agent asking for too much money, it was the same with Peterson.
I'm not sure about Todhunter? we never saw him eva.
TamaraAndTheDemon 1 year ago
@TamaraAndTheDemon
The guy who was Todhunter became a big name with 'Cold feet'...probably the same. Either too much £££ to return or didn't want to retread old ground. Actors are funny like that :D
ZoahLord 1 year ago
@ZoahLord Yeah I'd go with that. She felt like she had a much stronger character trait overall (and no I'm not just saying that because I'm a scot). She seemed to be "Impish", which would have been a good trait to have with the rest of the crew.
Probablyacowtbh 1 year ago
@timmoprice
" What was it like being a hamster "
TamaraAndTheDemon 1 year ago
@timmoprice
" This sound's like a twelve change of underwear trip "
TamaraAndTheDemon 1 year ago
@timmoprice
"s e x i think i want it, s e x i'm gonna get it, s e x i think i love it"
" if you were not my friend i'd steal your shoes"
TamaraAndTheDemon 1 year ago
@timmoprice
" i'm gonna eat you little fishy, cos i like little fish"
TamaraAndTheDemon 1 year ago
@timmoprice
" you expected me to wear gray out of season!, I'd rather hang"
TamaraAndTheDemon 1 year ago
@timmoprice
"no are you crazy you can't go in there!", " orange with this suit"
TamaraAndTheDemon 1 year ago
@timmoprice
" There mine, the fish is mine"
TamaraAndTheDemon 1 year ago
@timmoprice
Yer i like the cat in the first series " That's mine", "This is mine ", " All that's is mine"
TamaraAndTheDemon 1 year ago
@timmoprice
Yer that's right, the episodes were Terrorform, Dimension Jump, Morroned, Backwards, and a few others.
TamaraAndTheDemon 1 year ago
Kochanski was a whiny bore......but you have to admit Kryton learning about female humans did have some funny quips
SweetWhiskerz 1 year ago
@timmoprice
No you did, but all that was there was four chair's, some cupboard's and the computer screen's.
TamaraAndTheDemon 1 year ago
@timmoprice
Yer what episode was the end of series 5?
You never realy get told how they lost the Dwarf, just somethig Rimmer said to Lister ' Go come on, your the one that can't remember where you parked it '
I did not mind series 6 when they were living in the Bug, allthough when i first saw it in 1996? i did shout out ' That's NOT Starbug '.
And don't get me started on why i hate the series that came after 6.
TamaraAndTheDemon 1 year ago
@timmoprice
Yer they might have, i just rember reading in a book, i think it was called the complete guide of Red Dwarf?, but not sure, that the model that they had fell off a self in the old studio's and someone through it away.
TamaraAndTheDemon 1 year ago
I'd say Kochanski was an independent, clever and slightly upper-class officer from an alternate universe. Who suddenly found herself living in dingier surroundings (to what she was used to) with a group of all-males.
I think Doug Naylor has since regretted the decision of including a female character to an all-male cast, as "Back To Earth" didn't include her at all (apart from a cameo).
When it comes back in 2011 I think it will be like S1 to 6, where Lister is searching for Kochanski again.
BBrooksMr 1 year ago
@BBrooksMr - Having been a Dwarfer for 19yrs i can't say that Red Dwarf was better with her in it i'm sorry, she didn't need to be there and it was not even the REAL Kochanski that was C P Grogan.
I think if they are going to bring it back next year Doug Naylor should team up with another old comedy writer like Ben Elton to get it back to the old boys from the dwarf.
TamaraAndTheDemon 1 year ago
@TamaraAndTheDemon Now that would be good, Ben would be perfect in writing lines for Rimmer and Holly..
Remember the classic quotes and put downs that he wrote for the character of Blackadder, he could create similar lines for Rimmer.
I'm a Dwarfer too and "Back to Earth" (in my view) was a return to form, I thought it was great. I do love S7 and 8 (as I said) but they weren't as good as S1 to 6, they were classics.
BBrooksMr 1 year ago
@TamaraAndTheDemon I too would love Doug to get it back to being the old boys from the Dwarf again. I'd love to see another "Polymorph" episode again or they could a "Dr. Who-esque" story where they meet Ace Rimmer in a different timeline. Where we find out more about what he did in-between "Dimension Jump" and "Stoke me a Clipper".
But it's impossible now, for the character of Kochanski to not be included, so she'll more than likely return at some point. Maybe not for S10 but probably S11.
BBrooksMr 1 year ago
@BBrooksMr - Why does she have to be in the show?, she's not needed they should just write her out at the begining of the credits like they did with Jim and Bexley at the start of series 3.
Any another thing how could Ace Rimmer have died, he said he was a hard light hologram, but in Leigon our Rimmer was turned into a hard light hologram and Leigon said to him "you can not be hurt"
TamaraAndTheDemon 1 year ago
@TamaraAndTheDemon
The closing moments of BTE showed Lister vowing to track down Kochanski, to try to win her back. I can't really see that storyline being dropped.
As for Ace, Sci-Fi shows are famous for not keeping up with continuity. "Doctor Who" has done it loads of times, another great one from Red Dwarf is in the opening moments of episode 1 of S6.
How come Lister's hair and nails have grown when he's been put into Stasis, if it's meant to happen, then why didn't it in "The End". :-)
BBrooksMr 1 year ago
@BBrooksMr -How can they when the conection to her dimension was lost?, and seeing that series 7 and 8 were shit having a hole series on finding that moaning git will be even more shit.
i know that Doug Nalyor with never be abel to get the old show back (well not on his own any way), the new Red Dwarfs seemed to pay more attension to special effect's than they did the scripted.
i just can't bare seeing my old friend being turned into soming i hate.
TamaraAndTheDemon 1 year ago
@TamaraAndTheDemon I agree about the special effects, I remember getting annoyed with the CGI Starbug and the similarly CGI'ed Red Dwarf. The effects looked to cheap and it made the ships look to clean. :-)
I much preferred the miniatures, do you remember the successful but ultimately doomed "Re-mastered" versions of S1 to 3?
We'll just have to wait until 2011 to see how it all pan's out, I'm hoping for the best.
BBrooksMr 1 year ago
@BBrooksMr - i read some where that the original model of the Dwarf got put in the bin by some mad cleaning ladie, i don't know what they were thinking of making blue miget dance that was so stupid didn't make me laugh.
Yer i watched the Remastered versions that did not like them they edited alot of things out like the audicence laughter in Backwards "name" "KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK" " I'll just put Kyten", "can you see that space craft?" " Where?".
TamaraAndTheDemon 1 year ago
Blimey, I can't believe there are so many Kochanski haters on here, I think the character and Chloe Annett's peformance was very good.
I do agree that adding a female character did destroy the some of the male dynamic and feel of the show. But it wasn't all that bad, the whole Kryten vs. Kochanski plotline had some very funny moments. (In particular Krytens comedy woman walk) and she fitted in perfectly. Also (you can't deny) she was a Hottie and very Sexy.
Series 7 and 8 were still funny.
BBrooksMr 1 year ago
@BBrooksMr -It was bad adding Kochanski was a totally shit idea she was not needed in any way through out the show she was just in the way.
Thought out the 6 series of red dwarf you got to know the different pesonalites of the characters, Rimmer - every one hated him the only one he looked out for was him self, the Cat -was shallow and selfish nothing mattered to has long as he looked great, Kryten -was very loyal and would go out of his way to make the crew members happy, apart from Rimmer.
TamaraAndTheDemon 1 year ago 4
@BBrooksMr -Lister was a total bum but when the chips were down you could always count on him, Holly- did her best to control the ship but she did not know really what she was doing, Kochanski.........................thats all i can say about her she brought NOTHING to the show !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
TamaraAndTheDemon 1 year ago
This was really the end of the real comedy for Red Dwarf. Rimmer had left (yes he comes back but he wasn't OUR Rimmer), and of course Rob Grant had also left the show which for me was the biggest loss. Without Rob all the best gags had gone. Naylor's idea of bringing back Kochanski may have worked if it had been the original Kochanski and not some moaning bint who had nothing going for her and was nothing like the woman Lister fell in love with 3 million years before.
rj28sc 1 year ago 5
@rj28sc "Rob Grant had also left the show which for me was the biggest loss" I totally agree. Doug Naylor completely Americanised the show, focusing too much on the love interest and the emotional moments, and not enough on the comedy. He basically turned it into a comedy drama (check out the stupid close up at 00:39). Meh.
BradleySherwoodFan 1 year ago
Sorry 218, i've been a dwarfer for 19yrs and i hate that fucking women, she ruined Red Dwarf, i fucking hate her.
TamaraAndTheDemon 1 year ago 88
@TamaraAndTheDemon I don't necessarily hate her, but she was no replacement for Rimmer.
SamauraiRippeR 1 year ago 14
@SamauraiRippeR at all, so glad he came back later ^^
LeoArctica 2 weeks ago
@LeoArctica But he didn't remember what he had done in the past seasons. I enjoyed the last season, but I think that it would have been better if it hadn't ended so cryptically.
SamauraiRippeR 1 week ago
@SamauraiRippeR well remember, the nanobots rebuilt red dwarf along with all of the crew BEFORE the rad leak that killed them off in the 1st place.
LeoArctica 1 week ago
@TamaraAndTheDemon I agree. I think they just took her on to fill the space when Rimmer had to be written out. Of course, she couldn't fill even the tiniest bit of that space. I really missed the old smeeeeg heeeeead.
spacecowboy5000 9 months ago
@spacecowboy5000
MMmmmm i agree i think thay should have left it at series 6.
TamaraAndTheDemon 9 months ago
@TamaraAndTheDemon Don't blame her, the entire show went to shit after series 6. The common denominator is the departure of creator/writer Rob Grant. For whatever reason, Doug Naylor just couldn't write funny without him.
tml4873 8 months ago
@tml4873
Yer...what happend to Rob Grant??????
TamaraAndTheDemon 8 months ago
210 of you like this why?????
TamaraAndTheDemon 1 year ago 9
I wonder why alternate Kryten has gold plating?
purplebananafish 1 year ago
The second Kochanski replaced Claire Grogan after Claire's agent wanted too much money.
The price might have been too high BUT Claire had a casual charm which the new girl didn't understand.
BlackRoof 1 year ago
i agree on the woman who played Kochansky ive aways loved clair grogan, she was the absolute best, shes still around on sky and things i think
Pauluk33 1 year ago 3
Is she falling into space or the void?
Chrisindapurplehouse 1 year ago
@Chrisindapurplehouse well Kryten called it "non space"..so... i dunno really
TheHutchhickersGuide 1 year ago
@Chrisindapurplehouse - I think i was a void because kryten called it none space, but what ever it was i wished that the stupid women had died then i might have enjoyed the episodes after series 6.
TamaraAndTheDemon 1 year ago 24
The original Kochanski was hotter!
glennorange 1 year ago 4
I disagree
Chrisindapurplehouse 1 year ago
i would be pretty cranky too if someone shot me through the leg with a crossbow
ultimateiversonfan10 1 year ago
Kochansky is Hot!!
TheShadowwolf88 1 year ago
Kochanski & Kryten's cat fight was priceless. Excellent Series.
*****5*****STaR rating by my account. \|/
ooTpik2 2 years ago
I went searching.
It's officer Carol Brown. Security clearance 010101. From 'Bodyswap'.
She would have been a better character for the new crew member to be.
naganokumas 2 years ago
I think they saved the "dumbass" senior officer until the captain was brought back to life!?!
And Kochanski IS higher in rank(leutenant)
then the others!
TheShadowwolf88 1 year ago
Why did she have to be Kochanski?
It compromised much of the story.
Why couldn't she be just one of the female staff brought back to life?
The story could have then continued, without the 'explaining Kochanski' awkwardness.
For example, the crew member who said "I've got male genitals!" would have been a good one. Carol? Maybe. She was senior in ranking to all of them. And she also happened to share a brief moment with them.
Alas, the story went elsewhere, got muddled, and died.
naganokumas 2 years ago
The clip "DEVO Live On Fridays (1981) Part 3/3" is one that suggests this well enough.
naganokumas 2 years ago
The sound of the uncoiling rope reminded me of the start of Devo's version of "Working in a coalmine."
naganokumas 2 years ago
Love this show. Too bad Craig Charles sold himself out to be on Coronation Street, but I supposed he needed the money.
upchuck69 2 years ago 2
I love this show! So funny, but for the reasons, problems we all live with. Charles........delicious!
MotherOfMusician 2 years ago 3
sorry...meant to say 'backwash their drinks' not 'backwards their drinks'
burtv1610 2 years ago
I never understood the end to this episode. Lister goes back in time and is back on Earth right? Well why the hell doesn't he just stay there and where did they suddenly gain the ability to do that? You think they would've gone back to Earth sooner. Blah. Huge plot hole.
The only explanation I can think of is he had a photograph of the bar for some reason and they used that method to time travel because then his excuse is he couldn't leave the area of the picture.
SeekerLancer 2 years ago
They still have the time warp drive "I dunno the actual name" Legion gave to them, which they also use in Tikka to Ride. I'm not sure but I think they destroyed it afterwards.
TheNonApplicable 2 years ago
@TheNonApplicable -was that not the teleporter? the thing that Legion give them got blasterd out of the Starbug
TamaraAndTheDemon 1 year ago
@SeekerLancer -Yer Timeslides that would explain it, one thing i can't understand is the name Ouroboros, though out the whole of Red Dwarf Lister claims he does not know what was writen on his box, he was just found in it.
TamaraAndTheDemon 1 year ago
@TamaraAndTheDemon ouroboros, it is a neverending cycle, so basicly it is symbolic of lister meeting kochanski, getting himself as a baby, going back in time, placing himself in the pub, growing up, meeting kochanski, getting himself as a baby, etc
chrisjg210 1 year ago
@chrisjg210
Ah yes but through out Red Dwarf, Lister always said he never knew what was writen on the box.
He said that the name was our Rob or Ross, how is he then call David?, and Kachanski never said she loved or liked David, she was always the girl that Lister had a big crush on and fanastised sleeping with her, that's as far as it was going to get.
TamaraAndTheDemon 1 year ago
@chrisjg210
Having said that in Statis leak, Lister and the Cat met Lister and kochanski form a different time plate and they were married.
There was nothing about please put some sperm in a tube, oh by the way the baby will turn out to be you put under pool table when finished.
TamaraAndTheDemon 1 year ago
You save her life
OK, fair comment
a small shot in the leg
waddaya get?
thanks?
Oh No!
just $%&k*"g abuse.
Such is life Jim.
But not as we know it.
sleekburnslim 2 years ago 5
rimmer makes the show the big smeg head
VHmjk 2 years ago 4
I prefer this Kochanski, and I LOVE this episode!
BritishRainDrop 2 years ago 2
"Bastard" love that!
Jinx903 2 years ago 5
lol
dolphin35901 2 years ago
I love this show. He shoots her through the leg :)
afropower88 2 years ago
watch krytens eyes when he picks up phone its so funny
Georgebushbent 2 years ago
no body really likes Kockanski - me included.
Red Dwarf is meant to have a crazy and random story to it, then they introduced some sort of love story which made it all soppy and no-one was really as crazy as before (especially Lister).
It was better with the four boys, with Rimmer that is! :)
burtv1610 2 years ago 13
sorry, I liked Kochanski. I thought she added something new and fun, she got better in series VIII
Rainbowdalek 2 years ago
@Rainbowdalek - oh yer Kochanski added something new alright, she turned a jewel of a cult sci-fi programme into a pile of shit.
Oh and if you think she added something fun watch series 1 to 6 check out how many time you laugh and compair it to the series after when she's in it .
TamaraAndTheDemon 1 year ago 6
I like her, her constant undermining of her is hilarious, it is better with Rimmer, but the two would have been and were great together.
slash12190 2 years ago
I liked Kochanski too. I beleive she stoped it from being an all boys club and gave a different angle and accent. It gave us girls a good excuse for watching sci-fi. The concept of a Glaswegian with a posh English was a little strange though. Favourite Kochanski moment? The wrong day of the month, I loved her revenge too.
LoriCiani 2 years ago
wasnt holly good enough?!
then again, norman was better then hattie
c0nzo12 2 years ago 3
This I agree with you, Norman was better than Hattie. But when Kochanski was there the female Holly wasn't. Anyway, there wasn't much Holly could do in responce when the guys got up to mischeif was there? But Kochanski could and did. ; )
LoriCiani 2 years ago
@LoriCiani -I'm a Dwarfer i have been for 19 yrs and i'm a girl, how can you think she is better than Rimmer. and as a Dwarfer for 19yrs i feel it is heart breaking to see what has happened to Red Dwarf now. And it was not an all boys club there was holly and the episodes where more funner and better written with the boys from the dwarf, and thats a fact!!!!!!!!!.
TamaraAndTheDemon 1 year ago 8
@TamaraAndTheDemon
Said with passion, Tamara - and I couldn't have put it better myself. Smoke me a kipper, skipper.
boydegg 1 year ago 9
@boydegg - Thank you, i'll be back for breakfast, lol
TamaraAndTheDemon 1 year ago
"no body really likes Kockanski - me included"...and ME EXCLUDED. Sorry, my wife and I LOVE her, so your claim to 'nobody' is rendered moot. How does that foot taste in your mouth...need some curry to wash it down, mate?...;)
cecinid 2 years ago
I'm going to agree with you since everybody else disagreed. I thought Kochanski's character was a bore. In theory having a normal person amidst a ship of loons sounds like it has comic potential but it just didn't work for me. The lack of Rimmer also hurt a lot.
I feel like she never really meshed properly with the other characters and there was nothing intrinsically interesting about her. All of the jokes including her weren't much more than "Hahaha you're a woman isn't that funny!"
SeekerLancer 2 years ago 81
yes...hay ho as my mum often says. nice to have experienced both characters - still Rimmer was made a hologram to keep lister sane! and it I'm sure it looks funnier watching him dance to 'tongue tied' than if Kochanski did. Still...alright character though.
Anyway...great series. Love the one where time is running backwards and people backwards their drinks. and kryten's carved head is the best (looks like my science teacher) oo i could go on forever!
:c)
burtv1610 2 years ago
I have to agree as well.
I didnt like when Red Dwarf was recreated to resurrect the dead crew as well. Felt like it ruined the whole show. I stopped watching at that point.
Lostfaith1980 2 years ago 4
@SeekerLancer rimmer does come bk in the last series, if it wern't for that i probely stopped watching ^^
yay for goal post head! XD
LeoArctica 1 year ago
@SeekerLancer
The wrong time of the month was the best thing they ever did with her nothing else
MrKingkopite 1 year ago
@SeekerLancer , i totaly agree with you i miss Rimmer as well, i shouted at the tv bring back Rimmer and get rid of that fucking women!!.
TamaraAndTheDemon 1 year ago 8
@SeekerLancer - Couldn't agree more.
Hardysamnin 1 year ago
@SeekerLancer
Plus I was also used to the original Kochanski, the petite Scottish sound girl.
TheCastellan 1 year ago
@TheCastellan
I think Claire Grogan is Irish not Scotish
TamaraAndTheDemon 1 year ago
@TamaraAndTheDemon
Either way, I liked her more. :)
TheCastellan 1 year ago
@TheCastellan
Yer me too, well anything is better than Cloie Annette
TamaraAndTheDemon 1 year ago
@burtv1610 -such true words, i hate Kockanski as well, the writers tuck on this american way of writen every thing after series 6 which was shit.
I loved Red Dwarf more when it was the boys from the dwarf...and holly.
TamaraAndTheDemon 1 year ago 8
@burtv1610 -I could not agree with you more, one thing i can't get my head round Lister give up CURRY !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Red Dwarf will always be the boys from the dwarf.
TamaraAndTheDemon 1 year ago
"Mountainering equipment from Ms Kochanshi's ship Sir. I thought it' might be handy next time you run into your wife!"
Lo, gotta love Kryten, awesome Emohawk reference too.
TheFunGreenDragon 3 years ago 6
I seen this episode before! This episode is called ouroboros
Jester14111 3 years ago
Rimmer left to shoot the film Tomb Raider, but I think all the original crew were great. It was one of them wierd shows where I liked all the characters (Apart from Kochanski)
XxooTEMPLARooxX 3 years ago 4
so that is why he left
blackatree 2 years ago
yeah i wasnt keen on Kochanski she looks great but she was just annoying to watch snobbyness in a women is a huge turn off but she tamed it down and became bareable
buzzjunked 2 years ago
He filmed Tomb Raider in 2001, four years later. He left because the work load was too much. Hence why he came back in the next series.
Rainbowdalek 2 years ago
getting rid of rimmer was a mistake in this season, chris barrie was the best one in this by a mile.
simpsonsguy22 3 years ago 10
I think he chose to leave himself because he was working on Spitting Image and the Brittas Empire, but yeah, the episodes with him in were the best of this series.
kingofthemods89 3 years ago 4
agreed. i heard he was leaving before watching this series and thought red dwarf would lose it. personally i think i was right - a woman being in it takes out the whole point of listers character
cheekyegg 3 years ago 3
I think Kochanski was meant to be hated as a new character initially, but watching some of Series VII/and VIII recently im so glad she came back into it, for me now shes a natural fit in the team.
soc3chappd 3 years ago
Jesus. I hate Kochanski, Nothing against the actress. just that character.
Edgeworthscravat 3 years ago 8
He yells MUM because its him and her inside the envitro tube that make him to be left under the pool table, so shes his mum and his ex, as the cat says "dude, you should write a letter to playboy, i bet you'd get it printed!"
stopmotiondalek 3 years ago 2
all that is explained.
thegigm 3 years ago
i like this funny video. it's like beef: you can't get enough... uh, yeah... like beef.
Dallexx 3 years ago
God I hate Kristine Kochanski. Why is it that whenever shows go downhill that they think adding a hot love interest [who is alway such a bitch] is they way to boost ratings?
Orypeci 3 years ago 11
shes got to be the least funny character all she does is bitch and moan
dalektaliban 3 years ago 58
Yeah. I hope that in this straight-to-dvd thing they're doing soon they'll find some excuse to replace her character with one just like the original Kochanski; sweet and intelligent rather than uptight and aggressive. Time for some space-time continuum weirdness to save the day and deliver a happy ending. :)
BobTKaye 3 years ago 4
ya, i seen publicity photos and she aint in it >:)
doctorwhoobawooba 2 years ago 2
Yay! Thanks for that cheering news doc.
BobTKaye 2 years ago
@dalektaliban That sounds like a great idea. -Partial double entendre-.
lmordro 1 year ago
Didn't they only add her because they needed a "hot chick" for the movie...which never got made anyway?
HippyKiller81 1 year ago
Definitely like Chloe Annette better, instead of that other actress, CP Grogan, as Kochanski.
sidearmsalpha 3 years ago
What does Kryten call Kochanski in later episodes? It sounds like he's saying "mom", but I doubt it would be that. :)
sidearmsalpha 3 years ago
he calls her marm ... short for ma lady or something i think! Old fashioned r Kryten!
xkaylie86x 3 years ago
its mum, kinda like ma'am
Mandy3Glover 3 years ago
he wouldn't be calling her mum lol it is short for ma'lady lol!
xkaylie86x 3 years ago
Christine Kochanski - Biggest arse in history! (In more than one way) She did for Red Dwarf what Nuclear testing did to Easter Island.
joeferrett 3 years ago 13
they ruined kryten in series 7
friendofsgran 3 years ago 7
Ouch!!!
Onewhoislove 3 years ago
I wish everyone would stop going on about which series was or wasnt best and just enjoy!
Verseaurainbows 3 years ago 2
Craig was a great actor, but series 7 + 8 were pretty poor compared to 1-6.
horaldo3martinez 3 years ago 6
that is so true, the early episodes were by far the best.
scaloni777 3 years ago 3
This comment has received too many negative votes show
I just think compared to the rest of the cast he is an inferior actor, and I mean the cast of Corination Street, his peotry was that priggish self righteous lefty nonsense that was so fashionable in the early '80s, right on.
crom08well 3 years ago
shut up, he's an amazing actor, a great + very energetic presenter, and yes he started as a poet on Wogan, but he was great and inspiring then too!!! if ya dont know what your talking about, never open your mouths, cos Craig is one of the greats and is a better actor than you'll ever fukin be...retard!
cityfanchris 3 years ago
rubbish
crom08well 3 years ago
please, this show wouldnt have worked if Craig hadnt catched Lister's personality and his responses to other characters spot on, and you know it! by the way, last i checked no-one asked you, so next time you want to critise an actor trying his hardest to play a role...DONT, dickhead! and if you think im being harsh, well im an actor aswell, so i know what im on about...which is more than can be said for you!
cityfanchris 3 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
No-one asked you either you spotty teenager, and if I was you I'd look for a some-one more capable to admire. As for work, you don't know what I do, is any of your work on you tube? I wouldn't mind taking a look, with an open mind ofcourse.
crom08well 3 years ago
spooty teenager?! HA, im a 25-year-old professional actor, im currently doing stand-up gigs and am in plays all around Bristol! the reason i come on here is to pick up acting tips from watching others work, such as Craig Charles and Chris Barrie for the comedy aspects! true, im not a 'big time' actor at the moment, but at least im not some cyber geek who's first and only lover is a latex glove on his right hand critising actor's who are AT LEAST 1000% times better than he is!...oh, and YOUR MA!
cityfanchris 3 years ago
hey u two break it up... lets just enjoy the clip hey. its an oldish series that still makes many people double over in laugthter so thats got to mean somethin?
CrazyMissKaz 3 years ago 3
oh yea, i agree wit you, this fight is stupid and the clip is one of many, many great ones from the series, but this guy 'crom08well' just wont stop with the insults 2 Craig and his acting career, and thats what im defending. the fact that in every comment this guy has insulted Craig just irritates me as an actor who is trying 2 follow in, to name 1, Craig's example as a great actor. so im happy 2 stop, i jus wish the otha guy would 2, cos 2bh, im fed up wit the w*nker =@ sorry 'CrazyMissKaz' =)
cityfanchris 3 years ago 3
hey thanx 4 appologising hun:). yeh the acting is great. quite a few of the sceanes looked like fun to do:P
CrazyMissKaz 3 years ago
no problemo, wasnt you insulting the actors =) yea, ive worked with green screen before and it is kind of alot of fun, with all the wires and such, but the biggist reward is seeing all your hard work on the screen when all the animations been added, its like being handed a second christmas =) but yea, sorry again bout the arguement CrazyMissKaz =)
cityfanchris 3 years ago
wow... that sounds great. what movies have u been in? or tv series. good luck---woops mean break a leg... i go on stage two:) but i sing not act
CrazyMissKaz 3 years ago
well at the moment just extra parts, the only notible things ive done are dr who and primevil, so not much, but well all big things start off small eh? what type of singing do you do?
cityfanchris 3 years ago
that is still realy cool:) extras play a big part in anything just as much as the actors...there just less noticed. totaly. i just sing for small charity things usaly, some rock types, but mostly ballad type songs and songs from musicals. i've sung (with a chior tho) for the queen. i dont think im good though as i get realy bad stage fright (people bully me alot):(
CrazyMissKaz 3 years ago
aw ya know what, i used to be bullied alot back in my school days. but if you rise above it and never let it get you down, it all works out. cos i can tell you truthfully that while im acting when i can, living in my own flat type thing, and also have a job as a bar-man, all the people that bullyed me are: still living with their parents, not amounting to anything, and/or wanted by the police/in jail. so if you have a talent, use and enjoy it, and dont let anyone stop you! =) true story btw =D
cityfanchris 3 years ago 2