Chet Curtis Interviews Noam Chomsky 9/27/05 (1 of 2)

[inhalefarts]

noam chomsky is like 2 mathematical formulations fighting over a potato

[munkdo3]

lol look at the keywords

"asian" "girls" rofl

[37Dionysos]

This is like Barney the Dinosaur interviewing Einstein

[munkdo3]

@37Dionysos baaaarneeeey

[connoisseurodg]

Democratic Deficit.

[thekassandracomplex]

I love Chomsky, and what optimusprimevil1984 talked about (the paradigm shift) is very real.

[optimusprimevil1984]

Chomsky is a genius. I agree with everything he says.

The paradigm shift when you first find Chomsky is shocking at first. Everything you knew deep down but couldnt articulate is set out with stunning logic and precision by a brilliant mind that contains your own.. American foreign policy, the manufacturing of consent in the media, private corporate tyrannies. The ideologies that you had before you read him just disappear. Just like when Winston first read OBrian in 1984.

[bearcat648]

Now, did Chomsky just say that we don't spend billions on poverty? He's nuts. LOL

[227Morgan]

@bearcat648

Was that sarcastic or serious?

[bearcat648]

@227Morgan Very serious. We spend hundreds of billions of dollars on poverty through welfare, food stamps, section 8 and low income housing, and so forth and so on. Therefore, Chomsky disagreeing that we spend billions of dollars on poverty is ridiculous.

And, what is his big vision? More socialist programs?

There is nothing anarchist about Noam Chomsky.

[227Morgan]

@bearcat648

How much chomsky exactly have you read, watched, listen to, etc.? Even if you don't technically characterize him as an anarchist I don't see it as sensible to call him a socialist (at least in my perception of the meaning of the word). I admit that

[bearcat648]

@227Morgan I have read several of his shorter books and some of his essays online, debates, and letters online. At times, he is very sharp, and I agree with his anti-war stance, his ideas on propaganda, and so forth.

It may be hard to call him a socialist only because he is not a positive program type of thinker. However, pretty much everything he writes in terms of social policy tends to imply a socialist/govt interventionist solution.

[227Morgan]

@bearcat648

Hmm, would you mind giving an example of his "government interventionist solutions"? I will check that out.

[227Morgan]

@bearcat648 I have not read any detailed analyses of the US budget, but I am aware that the largest expenditures are defense, social security, medicare and medicaid. I'm fairly certain the next largest expenditure is interest on debt, so then what billions of dollars in spending am I unaware of?

[bearcat648]

@227Morgan Go to us government spending dot kom (hope that gets through :-)  ).

Federal govt spending alone on welfare in 2010 alone is $99.3 billion. That is not counting the housing budget.

[timetorevolt]

Chomsky's structural analyses are mostly spot-on. But, yes, he has difficulty understanding social-psychological warfare like false flag operations a la 9/11. However, Chomsky asks an important question - what if 9/11 was an inside job? Why is that important? HOW is that important? What can we DO with that information? (Maybe even the US govt WANTS us, or some of us, to know that it would do such a thing.)

[Internationalen]

Not really.

[walaa925]

He's a socialist libertarian, many Marxists bitterly disagree with him

[bearcat648]

@walaa925  I'll mention that you'll have no trouble finding Chomsky's books at Revolution Books, the RCP bookstore. At least the one in Manhattan always carried them.

There is nothing anarchist about Chomsky except some vague comments here and there.

[Myrkul1029]

@bearcat648 you're seriously mistaken here, Chomsky himself characterizes himself as an anarchist(anarcho-syndicalist to be more precise), and has written extensively about his views on this matter

[bearcat648]

@Myrkul1029 And John Zerzan did an essay on what a joke his anarchism is. You could also call Marx an anarchist because he has a vague notion of the state withering away. Chomsky's anarchism is not much more concrete than that.

Btw, anarcho-syndicalism IS part of the socialist tradition, and is regarded as such by both members and outsiders.

[Rkmomenah]

@bearcat648 Chomsky calls himself a Anarchist Syndicalist.

[JTmedia01]

Lets support each other for the greatest good & discuss smaller differences along the way! Amy Goodman, Ciny Shehann, Noam Chomsky, Dennis Kucinich, your family and Ron Paul need you more than ever now. Its family reunion time! Hope to see you in DC

[bootleg42]

LMAO, Ron Paul????? That right-wing lunny bin????

ah hahahahahahahaha

[alistairproductions]

@bootleg42 Ron Paul is nutty yeah, he doesn't like war. He wants sounds monetary policy. Crazy stuff. Looks like you bought into the propaganda against Paul?

[1Brockster15]

1. It is such a crime that the MSM has so long and so consistently shunned Chomsky. Just imagine if Chomsky would have been a regular in the MSM during the past few decades. I seriously doubt the mindset of the general public would have been such that our government could have perpetrated so many misdeeds while the public unwittingly waved flags and cheered in the belief that democracy and freedom were being delivered to the oppressed.

[1Brockster15]

2. It kills me to listen to Chomsky speak, actually. To think that such a HUGE difference (at home, in Latin America, in Iraq, etc.) might have resulted if the majority of the public had simply gotten to hear the unadulterated truth on a regular basis from Chomsky and others not beholden to the MSM. It really underscores the responsibility we have now (in the age of YouTube) to learn the facts, organize, and petition to make sure the facts are voiced...

[1Brockster15]

3. ...by those whom we want to hear and in the manner we choose (i.e., not in brief shouting matches with imbeciles such as Sean Hannity but in rational, lengthy discussions in which guests can expound upon their views). I wonder what sort of campaign would be required for CNN, MSNBC, or Fox News -- or better yet, a non-cable channel such as NBC or ABC -- to have Chomsky on during primetime and actually let him say what he wants to say.

[Rickdeckard2020]

Comsky's a brilliant Gatekeeper, most of what he says is spot on (except the few occasopns when he lies to fill his gatekeeping duties)

[KentAllard]

and what does he lie about to fill his gatekeeping duties?

[Rickdeckard2020]

gatekeeper is just an expression (he does not necessarily have duties)

but a lot of people that were admirers of Chomsky now continue to appreciate most of his analysis but also take into account major arbitrairy dismissals on his part that divert people from pivotal events (hence gatekeeper)

/watch?v=BhrZ57XxYJU

[KentAllard]

your explanation sounds like NewSpeak, something I do not find surprising.

[Rickdeckard2020]

Chomsky says "who cares" about 911 being an inside job. Watch the video, you might make better comments afterwards even if you disagree

[KentAllard]

he adds that at the end of pointing out the illogic and many falacies in the claim.

[SeventhSon333]

I love Noam Chomsky. He's brilliant, honest and humble. Thank you Noam for your service to truth.