Meanwhile down under....a brutalised ex cop and his dog are hurtling down a highway in a souped up MFP pursuit special, pursued by leather tribal clad bikers
No doubt this movie is SAD. Another thing that is sad, is that after watching this movie all most people do is argue or make fun of it. However, the SADDEST thing of all is this: the most pathetic and dehumanizing remark of all was made by "an American soldier." It makes me shudder to contemplate that animals like this are in charge of protecting America. May God help us all. ;0
@jamiedavey21 The impression I got from the movie is that it was a global nuclear war so there were no other countries in any better shape (and no way to get to them even if there had been).
The lucky ones in this horror are the folks who died immediately when the bomb hit. The rest died anyhow in a slow miserable death and those who lived, lived in misery. Man was stupid to even invent such horrible weapons. Hopefully the almighty loves us enough to never allow the heart of any man to push the button.
@mzzbapzz34 History tells me the almighty don't care for us or any of his creations for that matter. Something like 99.8 of all species that existed went extinct since life began. Not the best record for the shepherd. I accept that.
@mzzbapzz34 wow, you're fucking retarded. I bet you would commit suicide the moment your microwave and your tv remote get taken away. well, good riddance, more food for us real survivors.
@MrFredSed I live in a fairly rural hilly area, my house is basically in a valley surrounded by mountains, I have lots of survival knowledge, I know how to kill and trap animals, I can fix most anything from cars to washing machines to radios and computers, I'm a licensed radio ham, I have guns and ammo, I have plenty of tools, I have a PV system and a rainwater collection system in my house, etc. So I'd say my chances are pretty good.
@aseglkj Skem is a town in the north west of England. The people where used as extras in this film. True!
I'm glad you are ready for WW3 and let me wish you luck in your endeavours. A tip for you: keep one eye closed when in the area of nuclear detonations!
Me? I intend to face the rising sun come the day and worship the new god.
But the premise of the movie is that the people are preparing for a conventional war, NOT a nuclear one. Sadly, there won't be any animals left to trap. Rainwater- pure radiation...........
@whiskerchild also the emp wave will take out most anything electrical so keep your radios un connected to their power source when not in use and as protected as possible.
@aseglkj as long as by rural you mean a min of a full tank away from the city then yeah...remember the city will come to your home looking for whatever you may have. guns are fine as long as you know how to use them...and i dont just mean how to load and aim them ...i mean real actual training shooting under the stress of an attack is a whole other thing. i have never been in combat but even taking tactical shooting opened my eyes as to that fact. also remember that in all likely hood
ugh....just think of all the history that would be lost....everything that the human race had achieved up to that point, from Goethe to Napoleon to Beethoven to idk just about everything you can imagine....gone, in just one generation.
The governments of the world ought to start working to preserve these things on some kind of permanent record :/ just in case we decided to nuke each other, or something.
She sees that her baby has a birth defect from the fallout. It skipped a generation. We think that the Mother here would have been born w/ the defect. No, it was HER daughter born w/ it. Ruth's granddaughter.
everyone assumes no one's gonna wash their hands or clean their living spaces anymore. everyone acts like it's the end of the world just because it's the end of the world.
This was sketchy, at best. The attack sequences were embarrassingly bad, but some of the scenes of the immediate aftermath were effective. The portrayal of the further aftermath was less convincing. I personally think it would be much worse than portrayed, but they could only do so much for a simple TV film at the time. Also, if I'm not mistaken, the girl who played Ruth's daughter was killed in an auto accident not long after this film was made.
@rightfredsdead Oh, well, that's a relief to hear. But somebody has messed with her IMDB.com page. It doesn't list that particular role in her resume or biography and it indicates that she died in a car accident in April of 1990. Somebody should probably fix that.
@kayper54 yeah shes alright. i think your getting mixed up with the other actress mini driver. she was killed in 1972 with marc bolan. but that was a long time ago.
"And why in only THIRTEEN years has the English language become unintelligible?"
Presumably those children have lived only among their peers, without much contact with adults who would speak proper English, and so have developed their own language/dialect that, however, still has its basis in English (e.g. one of the boys was shouting "come on" in quite intelligible English).
@Libertine1789 The theory is that most people have suffered PTSD and other mental effects to the level that language has also broken down.
That would be a probable scenario, after all how would you deal the end of the world as you've known it? Everything you've ever known and cared about, almost everyone and everything you've loved and cared for now gone, struggling just to find water and food, and the threat of someone killing you for it. I think that would screw up anyone's mind.
That was incredible. I find it unimaginable to think of living in such a world; I think the world right now would be all I would think about, like our comforts and society etc. It does make one think about nuclear war or indeed events which threaten the human race a lot more realistically than the Terminator series or The Day After Tomorrow.
"I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones." ~ Albert Einstein.
@ChristophDollis I think the implication is as much genetic as social. What few unborn children survived, most would be much worse than simply mentally handicapped, they'd be mutations that may live for a short period and die early. She's also not unfeeling, or she wouldn't have shown disgust when her baby was handed to her or concern while it was going on. Post Traumatic Stress though...you ever see anything on child soldiers? They smile but it's rare, to show any weakness is unheard
5:48 - Ruth's daughter (or rather Victoria O'Keefe) is seen with dental fillings in her teeth. Looks like they still had dental care after the fall out even though they couldn't offer decent basic heath care or enough food.
@squeamishsquirrel You have to remember that at this point it has been 10 years since the nuclear war -so humanity (or what is left) is basically just fending for itself nobody has any time to consider anothers feelings etc, the nurse would have lost quite a lot in the initial attack- she has seen too much and has little or no sympathy for anybody or anything, it's like if she has to have seen and dealt with god knows what since the end of civilisation then so should Ruth's daughter.
Look, this is nonsense. Humans, en masse, do not become unfeeling unsocial creatures for 13 (not 10 by your estimate) straight years after a traumatic event even with ongoing severe hardships.
We are SOCIAL primates. That isn't going to change in 13 years.
An extremely good film if rather dark. One wonders how we would fair now? Probably worse due to our reliance on computers. EMP is not computer friendly :).
Worse still, in the UK at least, there's no sense of community anymore, except in rural areas.
The late 90s fuel crisis - where a bunch of lorry drivers and farmers brought the country to its knees over just 5p in a litre of petrol, and did it in less that one week, is a case in point. It showed how:
a) we are easy to cripple economically, just through civil disobedience
b) how some of our people would happily kill hospital patients in order to get £2 off every time they filled up
Theres very likely no dental care of any kind, how hard would it have been for them to have made her teeth look rotted?
I wonder among other things how they rigged the electricity?
Did the creators of the Fallout series use this film for ideas at all?
It would be interesting to see what happens after this. Are all babies stillbirths? If not, does the most hardy strain of humans live on, albeit in a mutated form, or do people become extinct?
The creators of Fallout (I've heard good things, but never played it) would have done their research like the people behind this film - it may well have been an influence.
As for mutations and stillbirths - in the words of the great mathematician from "Jurassic Park", "Life finds a way ..."
@JackRussellTerrier2 Expect the electricity had something to do w/ the coal mining they show @1:20 or so. If we were lucky we'd be pretty much back to mid-19th-century technology levels.
Very harrowing viewing - shocking! I was 21 when it was first broadcast. I remember after it was televised there were comments on the fact the girl had fillings in her teeth! You can see them when she's in labour! lol
@squeamishsquirrel specially when the us leaders are Not even americans or give a fuck about america or anyone else cause all they now want is control over humanity they have all the money they want many times over nothing else left to aim for n they won't give up now they ar so close to their centuries old aim the NWO population reduction the enslave chipped subhumans n the superhuman master race
When you look at the state of the world today, turn this on and you'll be able to at least say "at least it's not as bad as in 'Threads'". You'll come away with a sunny outlook and a spring in your step :)
@squeamishsquirrel peace is not the only thing. Peace is the last thing. Peace comes with incompetance and primitiveness also, so after a nuclear war there will be peace anywayd. preventing war means to live efficiently and civilized. there is no reason to fight now, but terrorists are likely the cause.
Joe survived! He's in sheffield! Someone tell the police! Gail didnt Murder him! j/k but that is actually Jimmy (Ruth's father) near the end. just pause it and look at him closer despite the injuries.
The radiation from even a limited exchange (up to 300 warheads) would cause worldwide famine, crops would die, nuclear winter for a number of years. People would lose the ability to reproduce. At that point, the human race would die out. Everything but roaches would die out. I do fear that sooner or later they will be used. How much? Who knows.
"You know what Einstein said about World War III? He said he didn't know how they were gonna fight World War III. But he knew how they would fight World War IV: sticks and stones."
-- From "The Day After", 1983.
Also knives, fists, feet, and swear words; not much else.
I very mush doubt that. It is more likely that all countries in the world would be embroiled in such a nuclear war. Even those that weren't wouldn't resemble "superpowers" as we understand them. The interconnectedness of the world would mean civilisation would be far cruder and rudimentary than we recognise. Given that the central theme of "threads" is the idea of a "chain reaction" through the "threads" of society, this should be obvious.
@Dimy761 very stupid comment those countrys would be effected by a full out nuclear war havent u ever heard the saying at the end of nuclear war the living will envy the dead and there will be no winners only survivors anyone with common sense will know nuclear war wont solve anything it will just kill our planet and our species "an unjust peace is better then a just war" not my quote someones elses
Lol - anyone who thinks this scenario is unrealistic should see at what has actually happened to our language and the way it is used by the new generation in the last 36 years - and that's without nuclear armageddon.
Britain would be the worst place to be in terms of a nuke fight. Such a small island but with a whole bunch of key targets! It's said earlier in the movie that around 210 megatons hit britain, over such a small area the fallout coverage would be nearly complete! At least some of the other countries have places to go, won't help civilization much, but at least some people would survive.
Is this the most horrifying piece of fiction I have ever come across? It is damn close. This will be with me for some time. I would also recommend the film "Come and See" for those willing to face such realities.
I doubt very much that was a trained nurse in any sense of the word. But I think the implication here is that in this ruined society, such things have gone by the wayside. Remember Jane's lack of reaction to her mother's death; listen to the way the kids talk starting around 2:02.
Life in this post-nuclear world would be nasty, brutish and short.
I´ve never been a pacifist. You could even call me a militarist and would be right.
Nevertheless, I remember having cried like a child for at least an hour when I watched this for the first time at the age of 21. Having my girlfriend sitting by my side made it even worse, as it made me think of how to cope whith such a situation if i knew she was dead.
Well...
May god prevent that this ever happens for real.
Man on his own would be mad enough to do it. Today no less than back that time.
A Russian operator behind "the button" saw a phantom massive attack from the USA on his computer screen. He should have automatically followed protocol and launched immediately - but he just couldn't do it. By the time he had the computer checked out, the phantom missiles would supposedly have hit - it turned out that some unusually low cloud was giving a false reading from the satellite!
Yeah, I read about that. Quite contrary to the traditional russian military style, one might say, as autonomous decision making at lower levels wasn´t really valued there, to say the least. Which makes it even more amazing. A shame that this guy ist totally unknown to almost everybody. If he is still alive, somebody should thank him in the name of the whole world, I guess.
Perhaps he did - although I doubt that too many people would be calm enough in such a situation to think about it that rationally. And considering the atmosphere of the cold war - don´t forget the typical impulse of retaliation: "If it is for real, I´m dead anyway. But if it is for real and we don´t fire back, these ******* get away with that. Not as long as I am the man behind the red button..."
If I had been this man - I would have been scared as hell. And what do many people do if they are scared as hell? They stick to strict procedures and orders, as they give them this assuring feeling of routine. VERY irrational in such a situation - but human history is one big proof of rationality being a very overrated thing.
Anyway, since I watched Wargames for the first time, I have wondered very often how these guys in the bunkers, whose job it was just to wait for the day
@jazzx251 Which kind of makes you wonder if they never really thought about their job before. On the other hand - at least some of them probably believed (and still believe? ) this to be a job without to much work, a job whose only problem might be that often it is surely just...boring as hell.
Until one day you hear the words "This is not an exercise", which you probably thought to be just...impossible.
Again, that is a shame. If preventing the end of the Soviet Union (and the rest of the world, by the way) is no reason to be considered a hero of said Soviet Union - what is?
It's even more fascinating second time around - as its eyewitness accounts are refreshingly from a Soviet perspective - the man himself and ex-KGB, spies etc. Who all come across as normal people, not the way they were demonised at all.
Some minor details of my facts are wrong upon review - the relevant part starts at 29 minutes in. But I urge you to watch it all, as it's all fascinating - worth 75 minutes of your time easily.
Well - having watched the documentary again, the man in charge was not a computer engineer at all!
He was a minor military commander (Lieutenant-Colonel or something like that) - he was just filling in for the guy who was supposed to be in charge!!!
Maybe somebody's bout of flu is the only reason we are alive today!
The sceptic in me tells me to be relieved but other than that not to make anything out of it. The catholic in me, however, wouldn´t rule out the possibility of a very subtile divine intervention. Which may very well be nonsense. But in the end - who knows?
when they would be ordered to turn the key...could do this job without going totally crazy. Imagine this thought: One little move - and millions and millions die. I guess only people who don´t think very much about anything can do that.
This Russian was discharged from the army in disgrace, he lives modestly today I believe, from the pictures in the film (I'll try and look it up for you) -- I reckon they secretly gave him a good pension.
He would have been a well educated computer engineer - maybe he spotted something that just didn't look right on the screen.
If I was in his position, I would look for ANY clue, ANY hope that the system was wrong - it was a recently installed system after all.
Regarding the russian who decided not to retaliate, I heard that the computer screen only displayed a minor attack and that if it truly was an american attack, it would have been much larger. So it seems we are lucky the glitch didn't show widespread incoming warheads.
He saw 5 missile launches - but knew that the Americans would launch more than that if they pressed the button. So he wasn't sure it was a real attack.
But THANK GOODNESS that he had the awareness to question the computer, or none of us would now be alive. (I would have died at the age of 11 years old).
He got thrown out of the army in disgrace (but secretly, the hierarchy were extremely thankful he disobeyed automatic orders).
This sounds very interesting, what you & TheMrEIP are talking about- who is this Russian man, or whoever, that didn't over react to missiles? Could you tell me? Thanks!
It's horrifying to me that one man could essentially decide the fate of civilisation based on his judgement of whether a computer system was faulty or not!
What a hero! And he was Russian!
The cold war was ridiculous - two sets of normal people facing off against each other with the ultimate weapons. And why? There remains no good answer to that question.
@jazzx251 Well, the fact that there was no nuclear bombs exchanged during the Cold War is a testament to the fact that Russia and the USA don't really want it to come to that. BUT crazy nations like Korea or Iran, they may not really care who they hurt.
The US better have the courage to glass Iran or Korea if they attack us. It is the only deterrent.
@katiatomsk Yep. I'm a lot more concerned about Kim Jong-Il than I ever was about the Soviets. He's 3 kinds of nutjob, and whereas I don't think he could take over the world, he could create disasters in a few small areas to rival the Boxing Day tsunami and Hurricane Katrina put together.
I tried to transcribe the dialogue at 2:00. However, as I did not grow up anywhere near Sheffield (where according to Wikipedia is where the story took place) and thus did not speak the dialect of English there, this transcription is very rough:
"-OY! Wunby(?)! Seedin n Coldin (?)! Gesu! Gesu (Give us some?)! Or else I'll break em!"
???
"Gesu (Give us some)!
War in stopa (?) ? Comithus (Come with us?)?"
"Where?"
"Come on! Let's fight! Gosel pite! Shall in corne! ??? Come on!"
Some elaboration on my commentary: as this movie apparently takes place is Sheffield, what the urchins/ruffians are speaking of a very mangled version of the dialect of English being spoken there right now. I'm guessing that a native of Sheffield and environs (which I am not) would have an easier time trying to "decode" the dialogue.
true, in Threads this is clear when Ruths daughter barely seemed phazed that her own mother has died
she has been seeing people dying left and right all her life, and it's therefore no big deal for her, not to mention her mother probably didn't find too much time to raise her
those with memories from the world before suffer the most
i remember seeing the movie over 25 years ago. this particul;ar part is a haunting picture of a nation who has lost all hope, its vision for a future gone. without God, in situations like this, you HAVE no hope
I see the aftermath was filmed in and around Skelmesdale using locals as extras! True!
MrFredSed 2 months ago in playlist Threads (1984 BBC Documentary/Film)
Dinsdale!
aseglkj 3 months ago
5:41 it seems like Bill Murrey got a small part
Avidcomp 5 months ago
Congratulations, it's a squid!
bl0xta 5 months ago 6
@bl0xta
KC0FZZ 5 months ago
This movie reminded me a lot of the movie Barefoot Gen, but in that movie's case, the story was based on real life events.
supermariosunshine64 5 months ago
5:38
bill Murray, is that you?
rideintosunset 5 months ago
@BloodDaze The farther of that still born baby is like voldermorte cause he got his snake out lol
ntfclad1985 6 months ago
Meanwhile down under....a brutalised ex cop and his dog are hurtling down a highway in a souped up MFP pursuit special, pursued by leather tribal clad bikers
TomthatiscalledTom 6 months ago 3
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bl0xta 6 months ago
Just found the poster of this video deleted my comment years ago, clearly only so much of the grizzly facts you can take.
HolyCows154 7 months ago
I think "Threads" makes "The Day After" look like Toy Story.
richiebabe24 7 months ago
Great movie.
whiskerchild 8 months ago
Notice how the soldier decided to make an example of them by shooting the Ginger lol like they care they went home and got there freak on.
ntfclad1985 9 months ago
I cried hard good film
superdogbiter1 10 months ago
No doubt this movie is SAD. Another thing that is sad, is that after watching this movie all most people do is argue or make fun of it. However, the SADDEST thing of all is this: the most pathetic and dehumanizing remark of all was made by "an American soldier." It makes me shudder to contemplate that animals like this are in charge of protecting America. May God help us all. ;0
wisernow46f 10 months ago 2
I am amazed that people did not flee to other countries, or other countries trying to help.
jamiedavey21 11 months ago
@jamiedavey21 The impression I got from the movie is that it was a global nuclear war so there were no other countries in any better shape (and no way to get to them even if there had been).
MrsNorris55 9 months ago
the girl at the end ''victoria o'keefe'' died in real life in a road accident in liverpool in 1990. she was only 21 years old.
andcouncil 1 year ago
Harrowing stuff.
rac000n 1 year ago
Oh, well -- so much for Jesus' commandment to "Love One Another"!
rayandreina 1 year ago
nowt a suit of power armour can't sort out
wosselwozzel 1 year ago 3
The girl is Ruth's daughter. The baby is still born.
Issacgrimnebulin 1 year ago
Humans are the most vile creatures that have ever existed in the universe.
deaconredwhiteandblu 1 year ago
@deaconredwhiteandblu and that includes you dum dum
imgordonfreeman 1 year ago
who is the girl that has the baby at the end? and is the baby dead?
littlegplumkin 1 year ago
@littlegplumkin The girl at the end is Ruth's daughter, and yes the baby was stillborn
WhiteLionness 10 months ago
The lucky ones in this horror are the folks who died immediately when the bomb hit. The rest died anyhow in a slow miserable death and those who lived, lived in misery. Man was stupid to even invent such horrible weapons. Hopefully the almighty loves us enough to never allow the heart of any man to push the button.
mzzbapzz34 1 year ago 18
@mzzbapzz34 History tells me the almighty don't care for us or any of his creations for that matter. Something like 99.8 of all species that existed went extinct since life began. Not the best record for the shepherd. I accept that.
kunstsein 10 months ago
@mzzbapzz34 A man almost pushed the button once but his heart told him he shouldn't
ZackAttack261 9 months ago
@mzzbapzz34 wow, you're fucking retarded. I bet you would commit suicide the moment your microwave and your tv remote get taken away. well, good riddance, more food for us real survivors.
aseglkj 3 months ago
@aseglkj > 'more food for us real survivors'
Who said you'd survive?
MrFredSed 2 months ago in playlist Threads (1984 BBC Documentary/Film)
@MrFredSed I live in a fairly rural hilly area, my house is basically in a valley surrounded by mountains, I have lots of survival knowledge, I know how to kill and trap animals, I can fix most anything from cars to washing machines to radios and computers, I'm a licensed radio ham, I have guns and ammo, I have plenty of tools, I have a PV system and a rainwater collection system in my house, etc. So I'd say my chances are pretty good.
aseglkj 2 months ago
@aseglkj Skem is a town in the north west of England. The people where used as extras in this film. True!
I'm glad you are ready for WW3 and let me wish you luck in your endeavours. A tip for you: keep one eye closed when in the area of nuclear detonations!
Me? I intend to face the rising sun come the day and worship the new god.
MrFredSed 2 months ago
@aseglkj
But the premise of the movie is that the people are preparing for a conventional war, NOT a nuclear one. Sadly, there won't be any animals left to trap. Rainwater- pure radiation...........
whiskerchild 3 weeks ago
@whiskerchild also the emp wave will take out most anything electrical so keep your radios un connected to their power source when not in use and as protected as possible.
m82wings 2 weeks ago in playlist Threads (1984 BBC Documentary/Film)
@aseglkj as long as by rural you mean a min of a full tank away from the city then yeah...remember the city will come to your home looking for whatever you may have. guns are fine as long as you know how to use them...and i dont just mean how to load and aim them ...i mean real actual training shooting under the stress of an attack is a whole other thing. i have never been in combat but even taking tactical shooting opened my eyes as to that fact. also remember that in all likely hood
m82wings 2 weeks ago in playlist Threads (1984 BBC Documentary/Film)
the uk should put money into nuke bunkers not just for rich people but for people who are lower class and middle class
liam7787 2 months ago
Maybe that mute man IS Jimmy, like someone said earlier. Red hair, same nose .....
whiskerchild 1 year ago
@12thHamster ..only the face of war changes.
domdadon018 1 year ago
So well done. Thank you for recording all these.
whiskerchild 1 year ago
Great movie, all I can say.
whiskerchild 1 year ago
One pint, please.
155qwerty155 1 year ago
ugh....just think of all the history that would be lost....everything that the human race had achieved up to that point, from Goethe to Napoleon to Beethoven to idk just about everything you can imagine....gone, in just one generation.
The governments of the world ought to start working to preserve these things on some kind of permanent record :/ just in case we decided to nuke each other, or something.
Aaronthegreatest 1 year ago
@12thHamster Mo' Jave, mo' problems.,,,amirite?
Aaronthegreatest 1 year ago
Where are they getting the electricity for the television?
TMAZANEC1 1 year ago 2
@TMAZANEC1 From some sort of electric generator the group of kids found.
SuicuneRider 10 months ago
@SuicuneRider
OK, where did they get the gasoline to power it?
TMAZANEC1 9 months ago
@TMAZANEC1 Unless you're testing me, I honestly do not know.
SuicuneRider 9 months ago
i dont understand what happened in the ending
raccoonatac 1 year ago
@raccoonatac something happened with her baby
VaIIentine 1 year ago
@raccoonatac
She sees that her baby has a birth defect from the fallout. It skipped a generation. We think that the Mother here would have been born w/ the defect. No, it was HER daughter born w/ it. Ruth's granddaughter.
whiskerchild 1 year ago
5:38 Jimmy?
WhiteLionness 1 year ago
everyone assumes no one's gonna wash their hands or clean their living spaces anymore. everyone acts like it's the end of the world just because it's the end of the world.
ScreaminMadMurphy 1 year ago
@4DFuturist
I know - I was just kidding (I'm Scottish)
jazzx251 1 year ago
Yeah...so...I have to go take a shower now...
ZarathustrasCrown 1 year ago
This was sketchy, at best. The attack sequences were embarrassingly bad, but some of the scenes of the immediate aftermath were effective. The portrayal of the further aftermath was less convincing. I personally think it would be much worse than portrayed, but they could only do so much for a simple TV film at the time. Also, if I'm not mistaken, the girl who played Ruth's daughter was killed in an auto accident not long after this film was made.
kayper54 1 year ago
@kayper54 no. she played a driver who was killed in a car accident for postline productions. the film was called 'cross providence'.
rightfredsdead 1 year ago
@rightfredsdead Oh, well, that's a relief to hear. But somebody has messed with her IMDB.com page. It doesn't list that particular role in her resume or biography and it indicates that she died in a car accident in April of 1990. Somebody should probably fix that.
kayper54 1 year ago
@kayper54 yeah shes alright. i think your getting mixed up with the other actress mini driver. she was killed in 1972 with marc bolan. but that was a long time ago.
rightfredsdead 1 year ago
@rightfredsdead No, she is dead. There is a website in her memory. Her name was Victoria O'Toole. They called her Vicky.
KarenEngelhardt 1 year ago
@KarenEngelhardt Isn't it Victoria O'Keefe?
MrsNorris55 1 year ago
@MrsNorris55 You are right. I had Peter O'Toole on the brain yesterday.
KarenEngelhardt 1 year ago
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KarenEngelhardt 1 year ago
Absolutely horrendious, I truly hope that this scenario is never played out for real.
planejunky 1 year ago
@ChristophDollis
"And why in only THIRTEEN years has the English language become unintelligible?"
Presumably those children have lived only among their peers, without much contact with adults who would speak proper English, and so have developed their own language/dialect that, however, still has its basis in English (e.g. one of the boys was shouting "come on" in quite intelligible English).
Libertine1789 1 year ago
@Libertine1789 hmm im pretty sure its to do with mental retardation in the young children
leonwoodford 1 year ago
@Libertine1789 The theory is that most people have suffered PTSD and other mental effects to the level that language has also broken down.
That would be a probable scenario, after all how would you deal the end of the world as you've known it? Everything you've ever known and cared about, almost everyone and everything you've loved and cared for now gone, struggling just to find water and food, and the threat of someone killing you for it. I think that would screw up anyone's mind.
planejunky 1 year ago
Lucky she had a good dentist for those fillings ;)
ryannichols113 1 year ago 16
@ryannichols113 Yep. That's rather a large oopsie, LOL.
;-)
MrsNorris55 1 year ago
@ryannichols113 LOL Yep. An "oops" moment that somebody should have spotted before the film was released.
MrsNorris55 9 months ago
That was incredible. I find it unimaginable to think of living in such a world; I think the world right now would be all I would think about, like our comforts and society etc. It does make one think about nuclear war or indeed events which threaten the human race a lot more realistically than the Terminator series or The Day After Tomorrow.
"I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones." ~ Albert Einstein.
SuperVolvoLover 1 year ago
And why in only THIRTEEN years has the English language become unintelligible?
This is part of the movie that is silly. And there isn't very much "silly" in this dark and mostly well-written, well-acted movie.
ChristophDollis 1 year ago
@ChristophDollis I think the implication is as much genetic as social. What few unborn children survived, most would be much worse than simply mentally handicapped, they'd be mutations that may live for a short period and die early. She's also not unfeeling, or she wouldn't have shown disgust when her baby was handed to her or concern while it was going on. Post Traumatic Stress though...you ever see anything on child soldiers? They smile but it's rare, to show any weakness is unheard
ZarathustrasCrown 1 year ago
Wow. Just... wow.
Amazing, horrifying, incredible, insightful.
Thanks for uploading.
AtheistBrit 1 year ago
5:48 - Ruth's daughter (or rather Victoria O'Keefe) is seen with dental fillings in her teeth. Looks like they still had dental care after the fall out even though they couldn't offer decent basic heath care or enough food.
nimitzclass 1 year ago
The nurse, to Jane: "Tsk-tsk. It would have been a boy. What little is left of him, anyway."
rayandreina 1 year ago
@squeamishsquirrel You have to remember that at this point it has been 10 years since the nuclear war -so humanity (or what is left) is basically just fending for itself nobody has any time to consider anothers feelings etc, the nurse would have lost quite a lot in the initial attack- she has seen too much and has little or no sympathy for anybody or anything, it's like if she has to have seen and dealt with god knows what since the end of civilisation then so should Ruth's daughter.
AbsintheGirl27 1 year ago
@AbsintheGirl27
Then why is she working as a NURSE?
Look, this is nonsense. Humans, en masse, do not become unfeeling unsocial creatures for 13 (not 10 by your estimate) straight years after a traumatic event even with ongoing severe hardships.
We are SOCIAL primates. That isn't going to change in 13 years.
ChristophDollis 1 year ago
@ChristophDollis how naive you are...
Bazanadu 7 months ago
@Bazanadu
Seriously? That's your reply? It's moronic.
ChristophDollis 7 months ago
@ChristophDollis eh? have you, ever, read anything about history? WW2 ... etc...
Bazanadu 7 months ago
So what happened to jimmy,did he die in the 1st blast?
RhodesLives 1 year ago
An extremely good film if rather dark. One wonders how we would fair now? Probably worse due to our reliance on computers. EMP is not computer friendly :).
banedon88 1 year ago
@banedon88
Worse still, in the UK at least, there's no sense of community anymore, except in rural areas.
The late 90s fuel crisis - where a bunch of lorry drivers and farmers brought the country to its knees over just 5p in a litre of petrol, and did it in less that one week, is a case in point. It showed how:
a) we are easy to cripple economically, just through civil disobedience
b) how some of our people would happily kill hospital patients in order to get £2 off every time they filled up
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She should of shared her rabbit, then she wouldn't of had to share her pussy!!!!!!
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fatezor 1 year ago
Theres very likely no dental care of any kind, how hard would it have been for them to have made her teeth look rotted?
I wonder among other things how they rigged the electricity?
Did the creators of the Fallout series use this film for ideas at all?
It would be interesting to see what happens after this. Are all babies stillbirths? If not, does the most hardy strain of humans live on, albeit in a mutated form, or do people become extinct?
JackRussellTerrier2 1 year ago
@JackRussellTerrier2
The creators of Fallout (I've heard good things, but never played it) would have done their research like the people behind this film - it may well have been an influence.
As for mutations and stillbirths - in the words of the great mathematician from "Jurassic Park", "Life finds a way ..."
jazzx251 1 year ago
@JackRussellTerrier2 Expect the electricity had something to do w/ the coal mining they show @1:20 or so. If we were lucky we'd be pretty much back to mid-19th-century technology levels.
snidelywhiplash 1 year ago
GER IS YA ..
OzzyDave6969 1 year ago
Hehe "gie us un coney! c'maaan".
So the only survivors of the holocaust emmigrated from Scotland ...
jazzx251 1 year ago 9
@jazzx251 That's because Scotland never got hit by any nukes in Threads. An atomic holocaust could only be an improvement so Russia never bothered.
CTM1978 1 year ago 2
Very harrowing viewing - shocking! I was 21 when it was first broadcast. I remember after it was televised there were comments on the fact the girl had fillings in her teeth! You can see them when she's in labour! lol
dorsetlady1 1 year ago
@squeamishsquirrel specially when the us leaders are Not even americans or give a fuck about america or anyone else cause all they now want is control over humanity they have all the money they want many times over nothing else left to aim for n they won't give up now they ar so close to their centuries old aim the NWO population reduction the enslave chipped subhumans n the superhuman master race
polygamous1 1 year ago
Nuclear holocaust causes children to get shot for stealing bread and 13-year-old rape and pregnancy... duely noted.
TheGloriousNosebleed 1 year ago
This film cheers me up every time I watch it! :)
When you look at the state of the world today, turn this on and you'll be able to at least say "at least it's not as bad as in 'Threads'". You'll come away with a sunny outlook and a spring in your step :)
jazzx251 1 year ago
@squeamishsquirrel peace is not the only thing. Peace is the last thing. Peace comes with incompetance and primitiveness also, so after a nuclear war there will be peace anywayd. preventing war means to live efficiently and civilized. there is no reason to fight now, but terrorists are likely the cause.
goodbyelonglive44 1 year ago
the only thing more terrifying is if they developed weapons of this power, without the long term radiation and poisoning.
One things for sure they'd use them.
cushy1900 1 year ago
Joe survived! He's in sheffield! Someone tell the police! Gail didnt Murder him! j/k but that is actually Jimmy (Ruth's father) near the end. just pause it and look at him closer despite the injuries.
soulandmotown 1 year ago
The radiation from even a limited exchange (up to 300 warheads) would cause worldwide famine, crops would die, nuclear winter for a number of years. People would lose the ability to reproduce. At that point, the human race would die out. Everything but roaches would die out. I do fear that sooner or later they will be used. How much? Who knows.
Ragnarok691 1 year ago
@Ragnarok691 i doubt everyone would die.
Guynumber7 1 year ago
"You know what Einstein said about World War III? He said he didn't know how they were gonna fight World War III. But he knew how they would fight World War IV: sticks and stones."
-- From "The Day After", 1983.
Also knives, fists, feet, and swear words; not much else.
rayandreina 1 year ago
@rayandrein true that
goodbyelonglive44 1 year ago
i think the baby was black........people were very racist in the 80s.....
idnumber101 1 year ago
twat
eatingmydinner 1 year ago
hahahaha.......hahaha
idnumber101 1 year ago
In this new world China, India and Brazil would be super powers.
Dimy761 1 year ago
@Dimy761, not necessarily. In case of total war, there would be some exchange of nuclear strikes affecting also southern countries.
Probably some Indians in Amazonia or some natives deep in the Africa or in the islands of Pacific would be the only people unaffected.
xxi7511 1 year ago
I very mush doubt that. It is more likely that all countries in the world would be embroiled in such a nuclear war. Even those that weren't wouldn't resemble "superpowers" as we understand them. The interconnectedness of the world would mean civilisation would be far cruder and rudimentary than we recognise. Given that the central theme of "threads" is the idea of a "chain reaction" through the "threads" of society, this should be obvious.
MrLewey10 1 year ago
@Dimy761 very stupid comment those countrys would be effected by a full out nuclear war havent u ever heard the saying at the end of nuclear war the living will envy the dead and there will be no winners only survivors anyone with common sense will know nuclear war wont solve anything it will just kill our planet and our species "an unjust peace is better then a just war" not my quote someones elses
jmc28J17 1 year ago
do they not speak Queen's English anymore?
Magikshroomgirl 1 year ago
@Magikshroomgirl
Doesn't seem as if the kids speak much at all.
MrsNorris55 1 year ago
By now -- there ain't no queen no more. Only the Law of the Jungle.
rayandreina 1 year ago
@Magikshroomgirl
Lol - anyone who thinks this scenario is unrealistic should see at what has actually happened to our language and the way it is used by the new generation in the last 36 years - and that's without nuclear armageddon.
It's teh shit - l33t
jazzx251 1 year ago
I'm going to be sick.....
Very close to reality
1970vlad 1 year ago
Well at least the nuclear fallout would've spared us from the Arctic Monkeys.
DystopianDaydreamer 1 year ago 5
Britain would be the worst place to be in terms of a nuke fight. Such a small island but with a whole bunch of key targets! It's said earlier in the movie that around 210 megatons hit britain, over such a small area the fallout coverage would be nearly complete! At least some of the other countries have places to go, won't help civilization much, but at least some people would survive.
nosorab3 1 year ago
Is this the most horrifying piece of fiction I have ever come across? It is damn close. This will be with me for some time. I would also recommend the film "Come and See" for those willing to face such realities.
jabbasaw 2 years ago
That was absolutely horrifying...I would definately take my own life if I knew it would definately happen. Did the man rape her in the barn?
deaconredwhiteandblu 2 years ago 8
@deaconredwhiteandblu
Totaly agree with you, better kill myself
1970vlad 1 year ago
Yeah I think so, either that or they are not educated properly about what they are doing and went with according to hormones.
Magikshroomgirl 1 year ago
@deaconredwhiteandblu yep...and the baby was deformed...
goodbyelonglive44 1 year ago
@deaconredwhiteandblu
Yes, the "Male" raped her in a barn. Man is reserved for people of honor.
MikeofWyoming 1 year ago
aaaaaaaaghh.
why the fuck did i watch this again.
watson9194 2 years ago
Wow. That would have been 1994 in the film.
cm2dude 2 years ago
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rayandreina 2 years ago
Ich habe auch schon The Day After gesehen . "Threads " bearbeitet dieses Thema tiefgründiger.
frankparker7 2 years ago
Much more so too, as an insight into total economic decay and even decayed tribalism.
Anyhow, who did Ruth's daughter's fillings?
pastrychef1985 2 years ago
I caught that, too.
Shufei 2 years ago
notice ruth's daughter has fillings- lol
SuperBeanson 2 years ago
I was about to post that. lol.. its the apocalypto dental plan lol
flute4hire 2 years ago
@flute4hire
Yep. Oopsie ... major oversight on the part of the producers, film editors, etc., LOL.
MrsNorris55 2 years ago
@squeamishsquirrel
I doubt very much that was a trained nurse in any sense of the word. But I think the implication here is that in this ruined society, such things have gone by the wayside. Remember Jane's lack of reaction to her mother's death; listen to the way the kids talk starting around 2:02.
Life in this post-nuclear world would be nasty, brutish and short.
MrsNorris55 2 years ago 2
Armageddon handicrafts at 0:50
PaulDougouba 2 years ago
sounds lyka mong speakin swaheeeli
gimpyraver 2 years ago
I´ve never been a pacifist. You could even call me a militarist and would be right.
Nevertheless, I remember having cried like a child for at least an hour when I watched this for the first time at the age of 21. Having my girlfriend sitting by my side made it even worse, as it made me think of how to cope whith such a situation if i knew she was dead.
Well...
May god prevent that this ever happens for real.
Man on his own would be mad enough to do it. Today no less than back that time.
PloinkII 2 years ago 2
@PloinkII
It should have happened in 1984.
A Russian operator behind "the button" saw a phantom massive attack from the USA on his computer screen. He should have automatically followed protocol and launched immediately - but he just couldn't do it. By the time he had the computer checked out, the phantom missiles would supposedly have hit - it turned out that some unusually low cloud was giving a false reading from the satellite!
We are all EXTREMELY lucky.
jazzx251 1 year ago
@jazzx251
Yeah, I read about that. Quite contrary to the traditional russian military style, one might say, as autonomous decision making at lower levels wasn´t really valued there, to say the least. Which makes it even more amazing. A shame that this guy ist totally unknown to almost everybody. If he is still alive, somebody should thank him in the name of the whole world, I guess.
PloinkII 1 year ago
@PloinkII
When he saw the "missiles", he must have played a version of Pascal's Wager in his mind -
1) If the attack is real and I press the button - everybody dies, including me
2) If the attack is real and I don't press the button - I die
3) If the attack isn't real and I press the button - everybody dies
4) If the attack isn't real and I don't press the button - everybody lives
Option 4, is the only sensible move - as you're dead anyway if the attack is real.
What would you do? Scary ...
jazzx251 1 year ago
@jazzx251
Perhaps he did - although I doubt that too many people would be calm enough in such a situation to think about it that rationally. And considering the atmosphere of the cold war - don´t forget the typical impulse of retaliation: "If it is for real, I´m dead anyway. But if it is for real and we don´t fire back, these ******* get away with that. Not as long as I am the man behind the red button..."
PloinkII 1 year ago
@jazzx251
If I had been this man - I would have been scared as hell. And what do many people do if they are scared as hell? They stick to strict procedures and orders, as they give them this assuring feeling of routine. VERY irrational in such a situation - but human history is one big proof of rationality being a very overrated thing.
Anyway, since I watched Wargames for the first time, I have wondered very often how these guys in the bunkers, whose job it was just to wait for the day
PloinkII 1 year ago
@PloinkII
Funny you mention Wargames!
Someone corrected me on these events - 1983, the year Wargames came out.
So this event took place just after War Games had been in production.
I doubt the Soviet operator had seen Wargames - but it's creepy the similarity in the scenarios, one fake and one real.
They got it spot on in that first scene - a percentage of missile operators would be frozen, a kind of denial - they would refuse to turn the key.
jazzx251 1 year ago
@jazzx251 Which kind of makes you wonder if they never really thought about their job before. On the other hand - at least some of them probably believed (and still believe? ) this to be a job without to much work, a job whose only problem might be that often it is surely just...boring as hell.
Until one day you hear the words "This is not an exercise", which you probably thought to be just...impossible.
PloinkII 1 year ago
@jazzx251
Discharged in disgrace...
Again, that is a shame. If preventing the end of the Soviet Union (and the rest of the world, by the way) is no reason to be considered a hero of said Soviet Union - what is?
PloinkII 1 year ago
@PloinkII
I've found the film for you:
/watch?v=KpxbpeuSQyA
It's even more fascinating second time around - as its eyewitness accounts are refreshingly from a Soviet perspective - the man himself and ex-KGB, spies etc. Who all come across as normal people, not the way they were demonised at all.
Some minor details of my facts are wrong upon review - the relevant part starts at 29 minutes in. But I urge you to watch it all, as it's all fascinating - worth 75 minutes of your time easily.
jazzx251 1 year ago
@jazzx251
Thanks for your effort.
Unfortunately youtube doesn´t want me to watch it - being german sometimes really sucks.
PloinkII 1 year ago
@PloinkII
Well - having watched the documentary again, the man in charge was not a computer engineer at all!
He was a minor military commander (Lieutenant-Colonel or something like that) - he was just filling in for the guy who was supposed to be in charge!!!
Maybe somebody's bout of flu is the only reason we are alive today!
jazzx251 1 year ago
@jazzx251
The sceptic in me tells me to be relieved but other than that not to make anything out of it. The catholic in me, however, wouldn´t rule out the possibility of a very subtile divine intervention. Which may very well be nonsense. But in the end - who knows?
PloinkII 1 year ago
@PloinkII
I don't think it's divine. Just simple self-preservation.
The guy had a choice - follow orders or cling to his only hope, based on the evidence before him .. the computer might be wrong.
Thank goodness he thought the computer was wrong!
jazzx251 1 year ago
@jazzx251
when they would be ordered to turn the key...could do this job without going totally crazy. Imagine this thought: One little move - and millions and millions die. I guess only people who don´t think very much about anything can do that.
PloinkII 1 year ago
@PloinkII
This Russian was discharged from the army in disgrace, he lives modestly today I believe, from the pictures in the film (I'll try and look it up for you) -- I reckon they secretly gave him a good pension.
He would have been a well educated computer engineer - maybe he spotted something that just didn't look right on the screen.
If I was in his position, I would look for ANY clue, ANY hope that the system was wrong - it was a recently installed system after all.
jazzx251 1 year ago
@jazzx251
Regarding the russian who decided not to retaliate, I heard that the computer screen only displayed a minor attack and that if it truly was an american attack, it would have been much larger. So it seems we are lucky the glitch didn't show widespread incoming warheads.
TheMrElP 1 year ago
@TheMrElP
That's true - and why his suspicion was aroused.
He saw 5 missile launches - but knew that the Americans would launch more than that if they pressed the button. So he wasn't sure it was a real attack.
But THANK GOODNESS that he had the awareness to question the computer, or none of us would now be alive. (I would have died at the age of 11 years old).
He got thrown out of the army in disgrace (but secretly, the hierarchy were extremely thankful he disobeyed automatic orders).
jazzx251 1 year ago
@jazzx251
This sounds very interesting, what you & TheMrEIP are talking about- who is this Russian man, or whoever, that didn't over react to missiles? Could you tell me? Thanks!
whiskerchild 1 year ago
@whiskerchild
Lieutenant Colonel Stanislav Petrov
dubbed by some "The man who saved the world"
Look him up. There's a photo of him appearing at the UN in 2006.
He was kept a secret by the embarrassed Soviets for years.
If you can find it, Channel 4's documentary "1983: Brink of Apocalypse" has the full story and some interviews with him.
jazzx251 1 year ago
@jazzx251
Thanks!
whiskerchild 1 year ago
@whiskerchild
Found it, hope you're allowed to watch.
The scary part is about 30 minutes in, but if you watch it all you'll wonder how it is at all possible any of us are alive today.
watch?v=KpxbpeuSQyA
jazzx251 1 year ago
@TheMrElP
It's horrifying to me that one man could essentially decide the fate of civilisation based on his judgement of whether a computer system was faulty or not!
What a hero! And he was Russian!
The cold war was ridiculous - two sets of normal people facing off against each other with the ultimate weapons. And why? There remains no good answer to that question.
jazzx251 1 year ago
@jazzx251 Well, the fact that there was no nuclear bombs exchanged during the Cold War is a testament to the fact that Russia and the USA don't really want it to come to that. BUT crazy nations like Korea or Iran, they may not really care who they hurt.
The US better have the courage to glass Iran or Korea if they attack us. It is the only deterrent.
katiatomsk 1 year ago
@katiatomsk Yep. I'm a lot more concerned about Kim Jong-Il than I ever was about the Soviets. He's 3 kinds of nutjob, and whereas I don't think he could take over the world, he could create disasters in a few small areas to rival the Boxing Day tsunami and Hurricane Katrina put together.
kayper54 1 year ago
I tried to transcribe the dialogue at 2:00. However, as I did not grow up anywhere near Sheffield (where according to Wikipedia is where the story took place) and thus did not speak the dialect of English there, this transcription is very rough:
"-OY! Wunby(?)! Seedin n Coldin (?)! Gesu! Gesu (Give us some?)! Or else I'll break em!"
???
"Gesu (Give us some)!
War in stopa (?) ? Comithus (Come with us?)?"
"Where?"
"Come on! Let's fight! Gosel pite! Shall in corne! ??? Come on!"
AResidentoftheCosmos 2 years ago
Some elaboration on my commentary: as this movie apparently takes place is Sheffield, what the urchins/ruffians are speaking of a very mangled version of the dialect of English being spoken there right now. I'm guessing that a native of Sheffield and environs (which I am not) would have an easier time trying to "decode" the dialogue.
AResidentoftheCosmos 2 years ago
"shal in corne" ? share the coney?
anisete46 2 years ago
@AResidentoftheCosmos
"Coney! Gie us it!"
The coney is another name for rabbit.
jazzx251 1 year ago
true, in Threads this is clear when Ruths daughter barely seemed phazed that her own mother has died
she has been seeing people dying left and right all her life, and it's therefore no big deal for her, not to mention her mother probably didn't find too much time to raise her
those with memories from the world before suffer the most
McLarenMercedes 2 years ago 3
Ron Weasley at 2:14 getting shot for stealing bread.
silikon2 2 years ago 4
i remember seeing the movie over 25 years ago. this particul;ar part is a haunting picture of a nation who has lost all hope, its vision for a future gone. without God, in situations like this, you HAVE no hope
WorksVolume1ELP 2 years ago
Our children will be born monsters, for that is what we are.
Snyder29 2 years ago 4
2:00 what language are they speakin?
BENSTER489 2 years ago
It's post-apocalyptic ebonics : )
WestVirginiaRebel 2 years ago
They're speaking a debased version of the current north of England vernacular.
Barnaulka 2 years ago 3