what an arrogant and egotistical remark. what makes you so much better than the majority of mac users? Did you know that the majority of mac new users are people who don't know much about computers? You cant blame them cus they dont know better.
I've been using Leopard since 10.5.0 preinstalled on my Macbook. Had a few problems with 802.11x, but those were fixed months ago. I never had problems with vanilla WPA networks.
But it never crashed on me.
In fact, the only reason I don't have an uptime of 14 months is software updates. It usually maxes out at 3 weeks and then Apple releases an update that requires a reboot.
I upgraded to 10.4.10 & my wifi would drop if it wasn't plugged into the ac adapter. None of the updates fixed it so I reverted back to 10.4.9 and figured I'd never upgrade past that again. I finally jumped to 10.4.11 and it's running flawlessly for me. My other Macbook is running Leopard and i'm experiencing the exact same airport dropoffs (and get self assigned an ip address). I've noticed that when I disabled all security on my router I stopped having any dropoffs.
I don't think I can live with myself if I turn off WPA on my router just to get Leopard to work on my MacBook. Hopefully the replacement unit Apple is shipping me has better drivers/hardware so I won't run into as many issues with the WiFi in Leopard. Tiger's wireless on a Mac mini is flawless, but then again it is a desktop system and doesn't have to go into energy saving mode. I'll see if Leopard is any better with the Penryn MacBook that's flying to my house. Peace.
Is this a joke? It sounds to me like you're trying to put Mac OS X Leopard in Vista's position. I mean, why would I trust anyone with the name dell1032 when it comes to Mac information?
I say your video is BULLSHIT. I've NEVER had a SINGLE problem with Leopard.
Tiger faster? I've seen dramatic performance increases in Leopard, especially with Spotlight.
Leopard, right now, is perfectly stable. I don't really remember what it was like in the beginning, but it's stable now, for sure.
I guess you're saying pepmod, kobaltski, and srod712 are all bull**** artists also. They're saying they have the same problems with Airport, so I'm not the only one. You can also look for many more instances in Apple's and MacRumor's discussion forums. I said Tiger is faster to startup! Yes spotlight sucks in Tiger, but when was I talking about Spotlight!? I'm glad you're happy with Leopard. It just doesn't work out for me on my production machine, and that's why I went back. Peace.
I sort of remember some problems in the beginning, right as the OS was released, but now, at 10.5.4, it's completely stable. I haven't had any problems. To me, it felt like startup times were faster. Yes, as I stated Spotlight is a hell of a lot faster. That's important to me because Spotlight is a very quick way to launch applications, as well as find anything. Application performance is quite snappier. I just don't see, right now, how anyone wouldn't want to upgrade to Leopard.
what do you think of the new snow leopard coming out?
and dude down there its a personal choice that he likes tiger, and so what if he doesnt feel like going out to buy completely new hardware? that doesnt mean that hes cheap. and once again, god gave you your ears to listen to what hes trying to say, i suggest you use them. so maybe youll know that hes talking about the camera NOT being on the FRONT.
I'll make a video in the next day or so to express my thoughts. In short I don't think Apple should even consider charging the full $129 upgrade price for Mac OS 10.6. A $29 upgrade or $49 upgrade seems fair considering Leopard still isn't stable (yet Tiger is) and charging everyone full price for speed and stability is the kind of crap Microsoft would pull. I'll have much more to say in my video. Peace.
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Are you a freaking Mac Poser? No video camera? YES there is! Camera is in the back! Geeze! Leopard isn't stable? Pshh. Better than Vista. You must be really cheap and don't have enough ram or something, or maybe your video card sucks. Get a 2600 ATI, or the new 8800 nVidia.
He was upset that there was no ***VIDEO*** camera on the ***FRONT*** of the phone. Yes, there is and always has been a camera on the back, but that camera is not capable of recording video. He was upset that the camera was not on the front because a video camera on the front would allow for ***video chatting*** as oppose to regular chat, or phoning.
Unlike viciousdave, you have the ability to LISTEN to what I was trying to say. This is the exact point I was trying to make and I'm waiting for the day when everyone will drool in amazement when Steve Jobs gets up on stage and initiates a video chat with someone else from his iPhone. That's the killer feature I'm waiting for and everyone's going be be jealous when they realize how rad mobile video chatting will be. Thank you for helping me make my point. Peace.
The camera is in the back of phone! Didn't you even watch WWDC 08? God. Dude, your kind of slow. The video camera is in the back of the iPhone. It's 3G fast now. Networking works better when your in wifi spots and can use it for your internet.
i got problems with Safri, it stops downloading in the middle of the page. then i have to keep refreshing until i get the Full page downloaded, i sometimes use Firefox, it seems to work better.
but as for Airport Connection, i have no problem using Airport Express.
i think that Leopard takes for ever to restart, most of the time, i have to force it by holding the Power button.
The thing about leaving your system up at night is a myth, the maintenance scripts that run are not that important, and if the computer is asleep when the scripts would run, OS X will run the scripts when the computer is woken up. Also, waiting for a video camera on the front of the iPhone is a very weak reason to not buy one. Finally, if I were you I would absolutely stick with Leopard (that's what I'm running now).
"OS X will run the scripts when the computer is woken up"
Keywords: "woken up". NOT "shut down". My Power Mac G5 has run virtually 24/7 non stop for over four years with minimal maintenance on my part. It works. I've had exactly one issue with it. That was a corrupted disk resulting from a power failure.
OS X is not smart enough to run the script after a shut down, but the MacWorld article also states the following: "Second, the tasks these scripts perform aren't so important that a few missed executions will adversely affect your Mac. The main script tasks involve cleaning out old log and temporary files and rebuilding Unix's locate and whatis databases. If you're not a heavy users of locate or whatis, you'll likely be fine running the scripts every few months just to clean up your log files."
That sounds a bit drastic. Before you do that I'd suggest you Google: "Macworld Troubleshooting AirPort Interference". The first article will give you a number of very good options which may help with your WiFi issues.
Continued. As for stability of Leopard. I've been running it for seven months on my G5 with zero issues. Two months on my new MacBook without any serious problems. That said AirPort is a bit buggy. I agree, Apple needs to put more work in to that. You should be able to find workarounds though, without downgrading your system.
Continued. Also my Macs run 24/7. You are not doing your Mac a favor by shutting it down over night. With a UNIX based operating system like OS X you've got to keep it powered up over night. For more info Google: "UGN articles Mac OS X Maintenance".
The importance of the Unix maintenance scripts is debatable. MacWorld recently ran an article on OS X maintenance myths and they stated the maintenance scripts may not be as important to run as in previous versions of the OS. FTA, "First, if you put your Mac to sleep at night, instead of shutting it down, Leopard is smart enough to run the missed scripts the next time you wake up your computer." I appreciate your comments and I'm glad your experience w/ Leopard has been better than mine.
Im glad your G5 is working well. To me it makes no sense to have to find workarounds to a $129 operating system. I can understand the .0 and .1 release being a little buggy, but Apple since then had 2 more system updates to get these issues straightened out so obviously there's some coding/design issues going on that's preventing Apple from getting things right on Intel Macs. Apple even admits Snow Leopard is meant to, "enhance its performance, and set new standards for quality."
WiFi interference has never been an issue for my Mac. I'm using a WRT54GL w/ the stock Linksys firmware and never had these wireless dropouts in Leopard. I'm pretty certain it's Leopard's WiFi drivers causing the issue b/c it makes no sense for wireless interference to cause the momentary drop in data reception for 2-3 seconds. Also I have two 9 dBi high gain antennas on my router and signal strength has never been an issue for me.
Dude, do you want to troubleshoot your issues, and maybe find a solution, or not? Right now there is an explosion of WiFi networks. Every 90 year old grandma is now getting her own wireless network. Everywhere I take my MacBook I can see from 10 - 15 different networks.
To dismiss interference as a possible cause of your Airport problems, I think counter-productive to finding a solution. IMHO.
It's more than the wireless. The thing that really bothers me is the 3 lockups I've had while using Leopard vs none that happened in Tiger. To me forcing a hard reboot is the worst thing that can happen in an OS and 3 times since 10.5.2 is unacceptable.
WiFi interference doesn't seem like the cause of my problems (and I did read the article). I turn off bluetooth, and at 4 separate locations the same drop out happens. At each of these places I see no more than 2 or 3 other networks (cont.)
and at my home especially, I did a site survey w/ iStumbler to isolate the AP from the other two routers in my area (I use channel 1 they use 11). Other people just in this thread are saying the same thing about the WiFi so I'm not the only one.
This combined with the system freezes and longer boot times is what's prompting this move (as stated in the video also.)
As I said, I agree Apple needs to work on these issues. However for everyone like you who is having these issues, there are a lot more people, who don't have the problem.
If you are still under Apple Care, you might want to throw it on their lap. Anyway if I was you I'd sure try moving your wireless router, changing the settings, and if that doesn't work, swap it out with another brand.
Also maybe this.
Google: airport - the Little Known Command Line Wireless Utility
Thank you for your advice 80sGuy, but I've already reinstalled Tiger and just finished migrating my data back from backups. Not so sure how helpful AppleCare would be in this situation because the 2 or 3 times I had to talk to them concerning a software issue, it took 2 hours of diagnostic testing on the phone for the tech to finally come up with a solution that I had in mind before I placed the call. I'll keep your Google searches in mind the next time I encounter an issue in OS X.
Hmm I agree with you're comments about Leopard. There were loads of bugs initially, and even now after 3 updates they're not all fixed - seems pretty crappy to me considering one of the major selling points of OS X is stability. I use Tiger in Uni sometimes and it's really solid.
Sounds right to me. I was only asking because I haven't yet switched to Leopard. I bought it, but didn't get around to the install yet... Maybe I won't bother. Thanks for the post!
I wonder if it might not be the result of some "security enhancement" that they released around that time that impacted both operating systems?
I've heard from other sources that Tiger remains more stable than Leopard so far, and with dev. resources devoted to Snow Leopard, I wouldn't guess it's going to get all that much better. Switching back might not be a bad call. Will it be worth it though to lose Spaces, Time Machine, and the other Leopard features? I only ask because I still run Tiger.
I rarely if ever use spaces. Expose works well enough for me. I've never once used Time Machine (not robust enough for my liking) and Apple has thus far given up stability for eye candy in this version of the OS. The only enhancement I will truly miss is the speed of Spotlight because you can finally use it as an app launcher, but I'll get over it. Stability is paramount in my book. There is nothing wrong with Tiger and that's why I'm going back.
I've not switched to Leopard, and am experiencing a similar problem with Tiger (randomly losing my airport connection). I've not experienced the lock-up problems though...
I do remember right before I switched to Leopard, my Airport connection did drop once or twice (perhaps Aiport Update 2008-001). The freezing occurred right after I plugged in my headphones while a QuickTime file was playing back. The audio froze and then my entire system locked up thus forcing a reboot of the machine. It's pretty random and only happened 3 times since running Leopard, but it's still pretty bad contrasting this to how rock solid Tiger was for me in 16 months of use.
Umm... seriously, Apple should work on making 10.5 a lot more stable especially since we're all paying $129 for what's supposed to be the latest and greatest (and no, spending more money for Snow Leopard is not the answer).
hey i sometimes get the wireless drop and then i fresh installed leopard (and formatted my drive to HSF+ thank for tipping me on that) and havent had a problem. ps im using a macbook 2.16ghz C2D and it is my primary computet to.
It's not only the wireless. The 3 freezes in 4 months really annoyed me also and as stated in the video Tiger never forced a reboot. Faster boot times are nice also!
You can only go back to the build of OS X that came on your installation DVDs. IF you bought a Mac that only came with Leopard then you cannot downgrade back to Tiger (mostly because of drivers).
@SgtWaffles42 and harder for a common user.
GarabatoxTut 1 year ago
iphone4
alex3344100 1 year ago
what an arrogant and egotistical remark. what makes you so much better than the majority of mac users? Did you know that the majority of mac new users are people who don't know much about computers? You cant blame them cus they dont know better.
iGreenBerry 2 years ago
Wich one is faster? Tiger or snow leopard? i dont know wich one to install
Square45114 2 years ago
I had the exact same problem!
techdude604 2 years ago
That has something to do with your router not the computer, it's the driver software on Leopard that doesn't work properly with older routers.
TheAlexAtomic 2 years ago
my uncle got the first gen iphone. then he got 3 iphone 3gs for the price of one....... cool huh?? he just gave back the old one
souljaboyinthehood 2 years ago
report to apple for problems dumbhead
byfriend22 2 years ago
I still prefer Tiger over Leopard. It's feel more stable and faster on my 1.83Mhz 1st generation macbook. So I don't need to spend 129$ on Leo.
elovesh 3 years ago
My Leopard appears to be running perfectly fine.
endlessdream94 3 years ago
I've been using Leopard since 10.5.0 preinstalled on my Macbook. Had a few problems with 802.11x, but those were fixed months ago. I never had problems with vanilla WPA networks.
But it never crashed on me.
In fact, the only reason I don't have an uptime of 14 months is software updates. It usually maxes out at 3 weeks and then Apple releases an update that requires a reboot.
riDDimann 3 years ago
PEOPLE OF EARTH: DONOT UPGRADE TIGER TO LEOPARD - IT WON'T WORK! DO A CLEAN INSTALL AND TRY IT OUT.
15" MBP 2.1 GHz 10.5.6 AUG 2007
vik238 3 years ago
leopard really slowed my powerbook down. I have thought about going back to tiger but it seemslike a waste to not use the upgrade.
Crash900s 3 years ago
I upgraded to 10.4.10 & my wifi would drop if it wasn't plugged into the ac adapter. None of the updates fixed it so I reverted back to 10.4.9 and figured I'd never upgrade past that again. I finally jumped to 10.4.11 and it's running flawlessly for me. My other Macbook is running Leopard and i'm experiencing the exact same airport dropoffs (and get self assigned an ip address). I've noticed that when I disabled all security on my router I stopped having any dropoffs.
esaldana817 3 years ago
I don't think I can live with myself if I turn off WPA on my router just to get Leopard to work on my MacBook. Hopefully the replacement unit Apple is shipping me has better drivers/hardware so I won't run into as many issues with the WiFi in Leopard. Tiger's wireless on a Mac mini is flawless, but then again it is a desktop system and doesn't have to go into energy saving mode. I'll see if Leopard is any better with the Penryn MacBook that's flying to my house. Peace.
dell1032 3 years ago
So did you switch to tiger? Howed it work out for you?
Dimitry1996 3 years ago
Tiger is great!!!
WindowsProMan 3 years ago
How much does the Leopard OS X cost in the US?
Haakonish 3 years ago
$129
dell1032 3 years ago
Leopard works fine with me, i use wireless every day. i love leopard. its a stable and nice cat to have in my apple macbook :)
FatherToaSon 3 years ago
Is this a joke? It sounds to me like you're trying to put Mac OS X Leopard in Vista's position. I mean, why would I trust anyone with the name dell1032 when it comes to Mac information?
I say your video is BULLSHIT. I've NEVER had a SINGLE problem with Leopard.
Tiger faster? I've seen dramatic performance increases in Leopard, especially with Spotlight.
Leopard, right now, is perfectly stable. I don't really remember what it was like in the beginning, but it's stable now, for sure.
UbiquitousGeek 3 years ago
I guess you're saying pepmod, kobaltski, and srod712 are all bull**** artists also. They're saying they have the same problems with Airport, so I'm not the only one. You can also look for many more instances in Apple's and MacRumor's discussion forums. I said Tiger is faster to startup! Yes spotlight sucks in Tiger, but when was I talking about Spotlight!? I'm glad you're happy with Leopard. It just doesn't work out for me on my production machine, and that's why I went back. Peace.
dell1032 3 years ago
I sort of remember some problems in the beginning, right as the OS was released, but now, at 10.5.4, it's completely stable. I haven't had any problems. To me, it felt like startup times were faster. Yes, as I stated Spotlight is a hell of a lot faster. That's important to me because Spotlight is a very quick way to launch applications, as well as find anything. Application performance is quite snappier. I just don't see, right now, how anyone wouldn't want to upgrade to Leopard.
UbiquitousGeek 3 years ago
I LOVE LEOPARD!!!
Arley2011 3 years ago
I have the same problem! Is this really caused by Leopard?
Kobaltski 3 years ago
what do you think of the new snow leopard coming out?
and dude down there its a personal choice that he likes tiger, and so what if he doesnt feel like going out to buy completely new hardware? that doesnt mean that hes cheap. and once again, god gave you your ears to listen to what hes trying to say, i suggest you use them. so maybe youll know that hes talking about the camera NOT being on the FRONT.
snare94 3 years ago
I'll make a video in the next day or so to express my thoughts. In short I don't think Apple should even consider charging the full $129 upgrade price for Mac OS 10.6. A $29 upgrade or $49 upgrade seems fair considering Leopard still isn't stable (yet Tiger is) and charging everyone full price for speed and stability is the kind of crap Microsoft would pull. I'll have much more to say in my video. Peace.
dell1032 3 years ago
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Are you a freaking Mac Poser? No video camera? YES there is! Camera is in the back! Geeze! Leopard isn't stable? Pshh. Better than Vista. You must be really cheap and don't have enough ram or something, or maybe your video card sucks. Get a 2600 ATI, or the new 8800 nVidia.
viciousdave119 3 years ago
He was upset that there was no ***VIDEO*** camera on the ***FRONT*** of the phone. Yes, there is and always has been a camera on the back, but that camera is not capable of recording video. He was upset that the camera was not on the front because a video camera on the front would allow for ***video chatting*** as oppose to regular chat, or phoning.
Azinthios 3 years ago 2
Unlike viciousdave, you have the ability to LISTEN to what I was trying to say. This is the exact point I was trying to make and I'm waiting for the day when everyone will drool in amazement when Steve Jobs gets up on stage and initiates a video chat with someone else from his iPhone. That's the killer feature I'm waiting for and everyone's going be be jealous when they realize how rad mobile video chatting will be. Thank you for helping me make my point. Peace.
dell1032 3 years ago
The camera is in the back of phone! Didn't you even watch WWDC 08? God. Dude, your kind of slow. The video camera is in the back of the iPhone. It's 3G fast now. Networking works better when your in wifi spots and can use it for your internet.
viciousdave119 3 years ago
First complaints I ever heard about leopard
Hildron101010 3 years ago 4
i got problems with Safri, it stops downloading in the middle of the page. then i have to keep refreshing until i get the Full page downloaded, i sometimes use Firefox, it seems to work better.
but as for Airport Connection, i have no problem using Airport Express.
i think that Leopard takes for ever to restart, most of the time, i have to force it by holding the Power button.
but i still love leopard better than Tiger,
let's see what The Snow leopard has to offer.
Fadeldell 3 years ago
The thing about leaving your system up at night is a myth, the maintenance scripts that run are not that important, and if the computer is asleep when the scripts would run, OS X will run the scripts when the computer is woken up. Also, waiting for a video camera on the front of the iPhone is a very weak reason to not buy one. Finally, if I were you I would absolutely stick with Leopard (that's what I'm running now).
chazybrewster 3 years ago
"OS X will run the scripts when the computer is woken up"
Keywords: "woken up". NOT "shut down". My Power Mac G5 has run virtually 24/7 non stop for over four years with minimal maintenance on my part. It works. I've had exactly one issue with it. That was a corrupted disk resulting from a power failure.
an80sGuy 3 years ago
OS X is not smart enough to run the script after a shut down, but the MacWorld article also states the following: "Second, the tasks these scripts perform aren't so important that a few missed executions will adversely affect your Mac. The main script tasks involve cleaning out old log and temporary files and rebuilding Unix's locate and whatis databases. If you're not a heavy users of locate or whatis, you'll likely be fine running the scripts every few months just to clean up your log files."
dell1032 3 years ago
I have that same problem, it sucks, the only way to fix it for me is to turn off my wireless on my macbook and renew my IP.
sevenboarder 3 years ago 2
That sounds a bit drastic. Before you do that I'd suggest you Google: "Macworld Troubleshooting AirPort Interference". The first article will give you a number of very good options which may help with your WiFi issues.
an80sGuy 3 years ago
Continued. As for stability of Leopard. I've been running it for seven months on my G5 with zero issues. Two months on my new MacBook without any serious problems. That said AirPort is a bit buggy. I agree, Apple needs to put more work in to that. You should be able to find workarounds though, without downgrading your system.
an80sGuy 3 years ago
Continued. Also my Macs run 24/7. You are not doing your Mac a favor by shutting it down over night. With a UNIX based operating system like OS X you've got to keep it powered up over night. For more info Google: "UGN articles Mac OS X Maintenance".
an80sGuy 3 years ago
The importance of the Unix maintenance scripts is debatable. MacWorld recently ran an article on OS X maintenance myths and they stated the maintenance scripts may not be as important to run as in previous versions of the OS. FTA, "First, if you put your Mac to sleep at night, instead of shutting it down, Leopard is smart enough to run the missed scripts the next time you wake up your computer." I appreciate your comments and I'm glad your experience w/ Leopard has been better than mine.
dell1032 3 years ago
Im glad your G5 is working well. To me it makes no sense to have to find workarounds to a $129 operating system. I can understand the .0 and .1 release being a little buggy, but Apple since then had 2 more system updates to get these issues straightened out so obviously there's some coding/design issues going on that's preventing Apple from getting things right on Intel Macs. Apple even admits Snow Leopard is meant to, "enhance its performance, and set new standards for quality."
dell1032 3 years ago
WiFi interference has never been an issue for my Mac. I'm using a WRT54GL w/ the stock Linksys firmware and never had these wireless dropouts in Leopard. I'm pretty certain it's Leopard's WiFi drivers causing the issue b/c it makes no sense for wireless interference to cause the momentary drop in data reception for 2-3 seconds. Also I have two 9 dBi high gain antennas on my router and signal strength has never been an issue for me.
dell1032 3 years ago
Dude, do you want to troubleshoot your issues, and maybe find a solution, or not? Right now there is an explosion of WiFi networks. Every 90 year old grandma is now getting her own wireless network. Everywhere I take my MacBook I can see from 10 - 15 different networks.
To dismiss interference as a possible cause of your Airport problems, I think counter-productive to finding a solution. IMHO.
an80sGuy 3 years ago
It's more than the wireless. The thing that really bothers me is the 3 lockups I've had while using Leopard vs none that happened in Tiger. To me forcing a hard reboot is the worst thing that can happen in an OS and 3 times since 10.5.2 is unacceptable.
WiFi interference doesn't seem like the cause of my problems (and I did read the article). I turn off bluetooth, and at 4 separate locations the same drop out happens. At each of these places I see no more than 2 or 3 other networks (cont.)
dell1032 3 years ago
and at my home especially, I did a site survey w/ iStumbler to isolate the AP from the other two routers in my area (I use channel 1 they use 11). Other people just in this thread are saying the same thing about the WiFi so I'm not the only one.
This combined with the system freezes and longer boot times is what's prompting this move (as stated in the video also.)
dell1032 3 years ago
As I said, I agree Apple needs to work on these issues. However for everyone like you who is having these issues, there are a lot more people, who don't have the problem.
If you are still under Apple Care, you might want to throw it on their lap. Anyway if I was you I'd sure try moving your wireless router, changing the settings, and if that doesn't work, swap it out with another brand.
Also maybe this.
Google: airport - the Little Known Command Line Wireless Utility
an80sGuy 3 years ago
Thank you for your advice 80sGuy, but I've already reinstalled Tiger and just finished migrating my data back from backups. Not so sure how helpful AppleCare would be in this situation because the 2 or 3 times I had to talk to them concerning a software issue, it took 2 hours of diagnostic testing on the phone for the tech to finally come up with a solution that I had in mind before I placed the call. I'll keep your Google searches in mind the next time I encounter an issue in OS X.
dell1032 3 years ago
Hmm I agree with you're comments about Leopard. There were loads of bugs initially, and even now after 3 updates they're not all fixed - seems pretty crappy to me considering one of the major selling points of OS X is stability. I use Tiger in Uni sometimes and it's really solid.
kevatcrewe 3 years ago
Just reinstall osx, who cares what you think about 10.5
eclipx 3 years ago
Sounds right to me. I was only asking because I haven't yet switched to Leopard. I bought it, but didn't get around to the install yet... Maybe I won't bother. Thanks for the post!
ryanbuell 3 years ago
I wonder if it might not be the result of some "security enhancement" that they released around that time that impacted both operating systems?
I've heard from other sources that Tiger remains more stable than Leopard so far, and with dev. resources devoted to Snow Leopard, I wouldn't guess it's going to get all that much better. Switching back might not be a bad call. Will it be worth it though to lose Spaces, Time Machine, and the other Leopard features? I only ask because I still run Tiger.
ryanbuell 3 years ago
I rarely if ever use spaces. Expose works well enough for me. I've never once used Time Machine (not robust enough for my liking) and Apple has thus far given up stability for eye candy in this version of the OS. The only enhancement I will truly miss is the speed of Spotlight because you can finally use it as an app launcher, but I'll get over it. Stability is paramount in my book. There is nothing wrong with Tiger and that's why I'm going back.
dell1032 3 years ago
I've not switched to Leopard, and am experiencing a similar problem with Tiger (randomly losing my airport connection). I've not experienced the lock-up problems though...
ryanbuell 3 years ago
I do remember right before I switched to Leopard, my Airport connection did drop once or twice (perhaps Aiport Update 2008-001). The freezing occurred right after I plugged in my headphones while a QuickTime file was playing back. The audio froze and then my entire system locked up thus forcing a reboot of the machine. It's pretty random and only happened 3 times since running Leopard, but it's still pretty bad contrasting this to how rock solid Tiger was for me in 16 months of use.
dell1032 3 years ago
Umm... seriously? All i can say is suck it up!
Er3s 3 years ago
Umm... seriously, Apple should work on making 10.5 a lot more stable especially since we're all paying $129 for what's supposed to be the latest and greatest (and no, spending more money for Snow Leopard is not the answer).
dell1032 3 years ago
Ok, i should rephrase my comment, WiFi is notoriously flaky... it's just a fact of life.
Er3s 3 years ago
Fair enough. WiFi will always be less reliable compared to 10/100/1000 ethernet, but my wireless was far more stable in Tiger also.
dell1032 3 years ago
hey i sometimes get the wireless drop and then i fresh installed leopard (and formatted my drive to HSF+ thank for tipping me on that) and havent had a problem. ps im using a macbook 2.16ghz C2D and it is my primary computet to.
pepmod 3 years ago
It's not only the wireless. The 3 freezes in 4 months really annoyed me also and as stated in the video Tiger never forced a reboot. Faster boot times are nice also!
dell1032 3 years ago
Can you go back to tiger even if you didn't have it on your original mac?
Keyfaze 3 years ago
You can only go back to the build of OS X that came on your installation DVDs. IF you bought a Mac that only came with Leopard then you cannot downgrade back to Tiger (mostly because of drivers).
dell1032 3 years ago
Awsome Choice Man!!
Keyfaze 3 years ago
I have had the sam issue with network dropouts....it is very annoying.
srod712 3 years ago
snow leopard is coming out
CheenoToCool 3 years ago
yeah.. in a year
lol
CrAzYHoSt 3 years ago
as opposed to windows 7 which comes out if about 50 years time :-D
dan892k7 3 years ago