Trey Anastasio's Tone using Guitar Rig 3

[TheKeitharoon]

Michael kang actually uses guitar rig now its very cool you got a nice sound man u should try getting jerrys sound too and more melons please

[theraditz]

:P tits!! *¬*

[dawkinsfan420]

hahaha big mike gordon

[KeegansPop]

This guy obviously loves phish and boobs. My kind of guy. Great tone. Everyone usually tries to get Trey's snarling distortion/feedbacky sound, but u nailed his meat and potatoes sound. Love it. That tone could drift me away to dreamland lickety split!

[M3LNIK]

any chance of you sending over the .ksd or .bnk sounds / presets. really sounds great



[PhishCactus]

great job, spot on. didnt know any programs could get this good quality sound, im stuck with my ts9 haha, hilarious pics!

[monrizo123]

0:14 and 1:16 are the best

[assquark]

:37

[HeyGidz]

this is amazing you sound rediculous

[M3LNIK]

hey man,

any chance you can email or upload the .ksd or .bnk sound/preset file for this? then i can just import the file and not attempt at copying what you got.

you definitely nailed it. great job.

[M3LNIK]

any chance on that?

[wholewheatbagel]

goodjob.

[guyyute]

You did a great job here . . . maybe reign in the reverb a touch though? Playin' is great too.

[cmfishburn]

Great stuff, I may be missing something but how did you remove Treys guitar track and replace it with yours?

[cslipper]

@cmfishburn Thanks. I didn't remove it, but I looped a part in the beginning of the jam before Trey starts to play.

[Mapleneckguitar]

what phish tune is that or better yet what live album?

By the way great tone my friend.

[cslipper]

@Mapleneckguitar The song is called Harry Hood, it is on many different official releases. The version I used is not on an official release, but I suggest getting A Live One, which has the version from 10.23.94, one of the best.

[bcp5296d]

are u using a leslie cause that what he uses in a lot of mid 90s hoods. hope i was helpful

[dividedskyplease]

Sounds great! Nice licks too! You may have just sold me on Guitar Rig!

[LukeRossTheBoss]

I can't even believe this is real because it sounds so close to Trey.

[maezarr]

There's an easier way: Axe-Fx.

[phildd0t]

I see nothing about mentioning settings and set up in Guitar Rig 3.

It'd be a lot easier to post it in the clip info, rather than have us all look through backlogs of comments.

[joe44850]

Love this sound! Hey, what song is this?

[vincentlepes]

@joe44850 Harry Hood by Phish :)

[joe44850]

Thanks for posting this, it sounds awesome. I will definitely add this to my guitar rig setup.

[imphishy]

What exactly are you using for settings and plugins? You really nailed his tone if this is legit.

[cslipper]

@imphishy hey, i only used guitar rig 3 stand alone. for the exact settings, check some of the first comments posted, i listed the details in there. also, since then i realized i could expand the TS9 clone settings and alter the "clean" tone- i would maximize this for trey's sounds. let me know if you have any other questions.

[Stankyfish]

Very good job...

[mattier3030]

you play the awd102nt from ibanez don't you?

[GuillermoSmyser]

how did you record this into a youtube video?

[cslipper]

@GuillermoSmyser exported sound from guitar rig, imported into iMovie, and added some pictures.

[tynnsey]

i have a prs hollowbody II with a fender delux reverb amp run through and ibanez ts9 tubescreamer and an mxr dyna comp compressor. i think i sound really close to trey! whoooooooo

[dahomies94]

what types of effects did you use from the rig? im trying to get the tone with regular pedals

[cslipper]

with regular equipment- the closest you are probably gonna get without a real languedoc is a hollowbody guitar, two ts9s, and a ross compressor clone (check out analog man's compROSSer or the keeley compressor for good ones). the compressor is important to get that signature trey tone

[popomczowzow]

in trey's case, the tone is from the fingers

[cslipper]

there are parts of tone that come from the fingers, and there are parts of tone that come from your rig. two separate things. trey's rig has a very distinctive tone, as does his playing style.

[popomczowzow]

@cslipper

I misspoke. Sorry. Trey's tone is 99% his rig. His SOUND is mostly in his fingers, and part from his tone.

[kc7fys]

You don't know what you're talking about. I know what you're trying to say, but the Anastasio tone is from his rig and his playing style. What you call "fingers"--Anastasio doesn't play fingerstyle or chicken pickin'--he's a straight plectrum flatpicker and palm muter on chank chords. He does use some pick harmonics, but not so much. I compare his picking to Pat Metheny's high-wrist approach. It's a very clean style.

You're just being snarky about sound and tone, Mr. Fingers.

[popomczowzow]

@kc7fys

I'm not trying to be snarky about anything, sorry if I came across like that. This is what I'm trying to say:

his tone is from his rig

what makes him recognizable and gives him his uniqueness is in his playing style. I was talking about his left hand really but either way it doesn't matter, because this guy nailed trey's beautiful sound

[kc7fys]

Exactly right. This thickness wouldn't come from a tweed amp and strat bridge pickup, for example--at 1:12 he switches into what I call his "Skynyrd Tone." It's my favorite of his patches--and he uses it on Divided Sky at Amy's Farm (my favorite Trey shred).

Trey plays in the fuller part of the string, too--nearer the bridge. He's got an amazing thick tone.

[Flyphish321]

awesome tone !!

I've been trying to get Trey's sound for a while but cant get it right.

I might have to sell my amps and get this program.

I assume GR4 would have the same sounds

[samoshillamo]

0:14

[PhishH2OH]

you are definitely getting there, seems like your compression level is up a little too high at some parts but overall a solid B+

[dahomies94]

woah dude... this is amazing. its just like trey! im wondering what scales you use or any type of help to get his tone and style. thanks a lot

[cslipper]

hah thanks. i really have very minimal music theory knowledge because I just taught myself to play guitar by ear for the most part. however, I do know that the hood jam is in the D Ionian mode, which you can use over major chords in any jam

[vincentlepes]

This sounds great...saw your setting in the video and on a forum post. Do you leave the hidden settings alone? (Bass, Treble, Clean on the Skreamer, for example). I am playing an Ibanez AS73 hollow body and my tone is close but seems driven too hard and the highs aren't as clear. What kind of tone and volume settings are you using on your guitar? Perhaps that will get me to a closer starting point. Thanks for sharing your great tone settings, and kudos on the trey-style jam :)

[cslipper]

yea i left those hidden settings alone. when using the compressor, the volume knob on the guitar acts as more of a gain knob than a volume knob, so i'll adjust it to effect the level of distortion. i normally keep my tone knob around 7-8. thanks for the comments.

[vincentlepes]

Thanks man...I had to make some tweaks to get it to sound good on my guitar setup, but your settings were a great starting point. Thanks for the tips! I am using the basic setup as my clean tone and trying out other effects.

[vincentlepes]

I also had a cool idea, if you're looking to mimic the same setup Trey uses...you can use the Split component to set up the Rhythm/Lead amps so they are switchable, like he does on his rig. Just map a controller button to the Fader on the Split component and throw the amps in A and some other amps in B. I am playing with the Twang Reverb amp (same cabinet), trying to get a similar sound to his Fender setup, just for the learning experience :)

[JGrusauskas]

but i saw the mclovins play (14 year olds) and this kid had a little squier strat and a peavey practice amp and he had great trey tone. look em up

[cslipper]

oh I am well aware of the mclovins- i am a PTer. axlovin doesnt play a squire though, pretty sure its just an american strat

[JGrusauskas]

yeah i know those kids. my friend taught him guitar. look up "downright music" and you'' see the crew. even if he's using a real strat, he still nails the tone without a hollowbody

[JGrusauskas]

wait so thats you playing over the solo? did you totally mute his track? it sounds perfect man until about 1:20, i would die to get that tone. i have his tube screamers and compROSSor and still can't do it, i think its mostly in the fingers.

[cslipper]

yea, that's me playing. I didn't mute his track (which is not possible), I just looped the beginning of a hood jam from 93 before trey starts playing.

Most of trey's tone comes from the languedoc, so unless you got 10k laying around, it's gonna be hard to get really close without using some sort of program like guitar rig. that being said, with any hollowbody, a compROSSer, and ts9s, you should still be able to get close. the hollowbody is key.

[mojox7]

wow, I gotta try that setting. awesome.

[Fretanation]

Thanks for this, great sound!

[surefootedllama]

Wow...that's pretty accurate.

[jannjr]

WHOOHHOOO BOOBS

hahahaha

[cslipper]

yup. here are the details

skreamer: vol 7.91 tone 4.27 drive 6.62

tube compressor: 37, -19, 19:1, 2.23, 1.22, -3

instant gratifier: raw setting: 8, .51, 6.92, 5.96, 5.32, 7.0

cabs & mics: 4x10 tweed alnico (10/28), off axis (2/5), dynamic 421II (2/5); vol +5, bass +5, air 24.7%, pan center, treble +2.7

studio reverb: 54.7 wet, 6.72 bright, 10 room size

[tronus98]

Thanks man, but, I don't use guitar rig :) I have the Analogman OD-9/silver and his Comprossor. I ran to my board after this vid and tweaked appropriately. Good times! Did you turn the attack up or down on the compressor? Did you leave it default?

[MJSIV1234]

Totally nailed it... sounds great.

[tronus98]

Not bad man! Did you put the compressor after the tube screamer?