but i am not saying the ak is a bad weapon, it has supreme acuracy and is a realy nice weapon, with less recoil than a stg44 and the ak i shot was a high quality ak and not just some cheap shit to make the stg44 look supreme...
the AK was actualy based off the stg, if you read "with hitler to the end" he talks about that michael kalashnikov "captured" him when he was in jail (for crimes after ww2) beacuse of the fact that he stod hitler near and knew about all the projects, including the stg44 and michael wanted to know everything about this weapon, and the ak is just a "improved" version of the stg44, and i have shot with both and i prefer the stg44 beacuse of its range, i was able to hit stuff at 400-450 meters
The StG-44 is the grandfather of the AK-47 because both guns were design for the same roles in combat and both use a medium sized cartridge, a size never used before. But as to how the parts work inside, they are very different. The StG-44 has a tipping block to hold the bolt closed when firing, but the AK-47 borrowed the rotating and locking bolt idea from M1 Garand and older bolt action rifles. The AK-47 is a better gun in almost all respects except accuracy.
STG nowhere near AK47 .... NOWHERE NEAR!!!! AK47 is an original system. You fucktards that think that if something looks similar to something else that must be a "ripoff" are nothing then bunch of faggots, who would mistake copper for gold. FAGS!
Fag nowhere near Idiot .... NOWHERE NEAR!!!! Fag isn't a bad word. You fucktards that think that if something sounds like an expletive that must be an expletive are nothing then bunch of idiots, who would mistake cigarettes for people who don't think before they type.
@MrDip02 if you were any smart or intelligent which you are not you would know that STG operating system uses deleyaed blow back... AK47 has a totaly different principle and does not look nowhere near STG. So since you made an idiot out of yourself please do not comment here.
@Ouija121085 im going to make it simple (i screwed up big time im not last messages but) the stg-44 and the ak-47 are slightly similar but the mp-44 is more of a copy of the ak-47 because hugo worked at the same factory kalashnikov was when perfecting the ak-47 and he stayed there from 1946 1949 like i said the atg-44 is not completely distance but it's completely not the same basically it was more mp-44 than stg-44 basically the stg-44 could have been just a slight design of up but mp-44 was
The Stg-44 Was the first weapon to bridge the gap between
the Sub-Macinegun and the Bolt action Rifle succesfully with its 7.92x33mm "Kurtz" Bullet
And is the First True "Assault Rifle".
Had the Stg-44 been put into production in 1942 when it was originally conceived
and made in sufficient Numbers,then there is no doubt it would have had a huge impact in all theatres of WW2 and beyond,negating the need for an AK-47.
But it wasnt to be and the AK became the rightful Heir to the Throne.
@MP44StG44Page Personally I prefer not to prejudge the two arms, if they are reliable, no problem. Anyway I think the similarities leave little doubt that they are very confusing, and I have not seen the full video to learn a little more. Should be further investigated.
@Ralastar And I assume that you are perhaps neo-Nazi? If I were a Communist so I would have won on my own merit being called a communist, but I don't have enough merit to even own it.
@Ralastar Communism and Nazism are two different politics in conflict and you still are a STUPID. Yeah, I'm amazing, but i don´t like your idea of the double morality: I can´t be a Communist and a Nazi at the same time, you idiot COD Fanboy. I preffer be a Socialist to reach the goal of the Communism...with my merits, of course.
@Ralastar I'm not talking of "You Tube". I'm talking about my personal merits, not about the merits on You Tube to be a Socialist. You should learn to read the entire text and not the part for you to misrepresent. If you keep attacking me, you end up as an idiot.
no disrepect, but i think Mikhail is hyping is rifle up. He said "this rifle has a absolutely different operating princple, it has nothing to do with german automatic rifle. They have nothing in common." This is somewhat of a lie. The STG and the ak both have the same gas system, so similar operating principle. They both are select fire rifles that shoot a intermediate round (which makes them assault rifles) so they are very similar. Also, the STG is very simple, watch a dissasembly video of it.
@MP44StG44Page yep, im tired of these die hard ak-47 fan that think the ak had nothing to do with the STG. sorry ak fans, but if the STG didn't exist nethier would the ak. Don't get me wrong the ak is a great rifle, but it came from the STG.
@a2redneck There are AKs for almost all calibres. The AK is all about the core mechanism, everything else can be easy changed. And this mechanism has nothing to do wit the STG.
@Anderas777 todays ak's (which aren't true aks) come in different calibers, but i mean the early soviet production of aks, which im talking about and what the video is talking about. "The AK is all about the core mechanism, everything else can be easy changed." I have no idea what you mean by this. "And this mechanism has nothing to do wit the STG." i explained this in my last comment.
@a2redneck Mikhail Kalashnikov is an man of honer. If he says that his weapon has nothing to do with the STG44 I believe him. But I don't expect that you understand this. The AK47 is a symbol of Russian superiority and a lot of people especial in the west did not like it. It is OK, it changes nothing.
@Anderas777 I love the AK-47. Why would you not like it, its reliable, simple and a dime a dozen, but after World War II, as General Designer of small arms for the Soviet Army, his design subordinates included the Germans Hugo Schmeisser, designer of the StG-44, and Werner Grüner. Im not saying the Ak came from the STG but it was heavily influenced by it.
@a2redneck True, he is telling a bit of a lie, but the M1 Garand,DP-28, and ZB vz. 26 all have a similar operating system and they came before the STG44. In terms of the concept of the assault rifle, the Soviets did indeed copy that. In terms of the actual mechanics, it's splitting hairs as I named guns that came before the STG44 that have similar operating systems.
@esh325 yeah your right, but you get my point though. He is telling a bit of a lie. From what i see it was the STG that brought it all into one package and it should get the credit.
@a2redneck Hes Russian, meaning his sense of pride outweighs reality, and if I designed the great weapon in existence that sense would exist in me as well. Give the guy a break, they are similar, EVERY assault rifle comes from the Stg44. But its an excellent weapon fear and admired the world over, so would you mind cutting a prideful geezer a little slack?
@davedavedaveannoy1 I do give him some slack. I did say: "no disrepect". He did design a simple, yet effective rifle, but to say it had nothing to do with the STG44 is just asinine. World War II, as General Designer of small arms for the Soviet Army, Kalashnikov's design subordinates included the Germans Hugo Schmeisser, designer of the StG-44, and Werner Grüner. Im throwing that fact out there again. I do thank mr.Kalashnikov for putting this rifle together, ill give credit where credit is due
@a2redneck The original designer (the kraut) is long since passed on, and though I do accept that his weapon was the basis for ALL assault rifles I still like the kalashnikov variant more. It is an outstanding weapon, and yes, he did take credit, but can you blame an old revolutionary?
but i am not saying the ak is a bad weapon, it has supreme acuracy and is a realy nice weapon, with less recoil than a stg44 and the ak i shot was a high quality ak and not just some cheap shit to make the stg44 look supreme...
airsoftwhermatch 2 months ago
the AK was actualy based off the stg, if you read "with hitler to the end" he talks about that michael kalashnikov "captured" him when he was in jail (for crimes after ww2) beacuse of the fact that he stod hitler near and knew about all the projects, including the stg44 and michael wanted to know everything about this weapon, and the ak is just a "improved" version of the stg44, and i have shot with both and i prefer the stg44 beacuse of its range, i was able to hit stuff at 400-450 meters
airsoftwhermatch 2 months ago
They only have the same rear sight they look alike I guess but but if u actually shoot them the ak is far superior
AudieMurphy10 3 months ago
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The StG-44 is the grandfather of the AK-47 because both guns were design for the same roles in combat and both use a medium sized cartridge, a size never used before. But as to how the parts work inside, they are very different. The StG-44 has a tipping block to hold the bolt closed when firing, but the AK-47 borrowed the rotating and locking bolt idea from M1 Garand and older bolt action rifles. The AK-47 is a better gun in almost all respects except accuracy.
soviet507 5 months ago
STG nowhere near AK47 .... NOWHERE NEAR!!!! AK47 is an original system. You fucktards that think that if something looks similar to something else that must be a "ripoff" are nothing then bunch of faggots, who would mistake copper for gold. FAGS!
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@Ouija1210
Fag nowhere near Idiot .... NOWHERE NEAR!!!! Fag isn't a bad word. You fucktards that think that if something sounds like an expletive that must be an expletive are nothing then bunch of idiots, who would mistake cigarettes for people who don't think before they type.
IDIOTS!
CrapolaFarm 5 months ago
@Ouija1210 they use the same gas operation system same design how are they no where the same
MrDip02 1 month ago
@MrDip02 if you were any smart or intelligent which you are not you would know that STG operating system uses deleyaed blow back... AK47 has a totaly different principle and does not look nowhere near STG. So since you made an idiot out of yourself please do not comment here.
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@Ouija121085 im going to make it simple (i screwed up big time im not last messages but) the stg-44 and the ak-47 are slightly similar but the mp-44 is more of a copy of the ak-47 because hugo worked at the same factory kalashnikov was when perfecting the ak-47 and he stayed there from 1946 1949 like i said the atg-44 is not completely distance but it's completely not the same basically it was more mp-44 than stg-44 basically the stg-44 could have been just a slight design of up but mp-44 was
MrDip02 1 month ago
@Ouija121085 part of it
MrDip02 1 month ago
kalishnikov is a lier. He thinks he doesn't need the truth because he has AK47s. Until the Seals break in with the much better m16.
ben191209 5 months ago
@ben191209 You are a moron i'de take Ak47 anyday and rape ure seals or clubb them to death.... faggot
Ouija1210 5 months ago
The Stg-44 Was the first weapon to bridge the gap between
the Sub-Macinegun and the Bolt action Rifle succesfully with its 7.92x33mm "Kurtz" Bullet
And is the First True "Assault Rifle".
Had the Stg-44 been put into production in 1942 when it was originally conceived
and made in sufficient Numbers,then there is no doubt it would have had a huge impact in all theatres of WW2 and beyond,negating the need for an AK-47.
But it wasnt to be and the AK became the rightful Heir to the Throne.
CheckMySix 7 months ago
Could you two shut up?
ben9DB 9 months ago
@ben9DB L0L!
MP44StG44Page 9 months ago
Like the Soviets weren't famous for their lies....
Ralastar 9 months ago
@Ralastar Shut the hell up...
AssassinKid0 9 months ago
@AssassinKid0 L0L!
MP44StG44Page 9 months ago
@MP44StG44Page Personally I prefer not to prejudge the two arms, if they are reliable, no problem. Anyway I think the similarities leave little doubt that they are very confusing, and I have not seen the full video to learn a little more. Should be further investigated.
AssassinKid0 9 months ago
@AssassinKid0 Ah, no. I will not. What, are some kind of communist? From Mexico?!?!! Hahahahahaha!
Ralastar 9 months ago
@Ralastar And I assume that you are perhaps neo-Nazi? If I were a Communist so I would have won on my own merit being called a communist, but I don't have enough merit to even own it.
AssassinKid0 9 months ago
@AssassinKid0 No, I am not a neo-nazi. ooohhhhh, deep!!!!!!!
Ralastar 9 months ago
@Ralastar Then stop making impulsive comments, thoroughly investigate and reflect.
AssassinKid0 9 months ago
@AssassinKid0 HUGE GASSY CAT TURD.
Ralastar 9 months ago
@Ralastar Now I remember that I told you to shut up, stupid neo-nazi.
AssassinKid0 9 months ago
@AssassinKid0 I am not a neo nazi. YOU are the nazi. ANd a communist at the same time. Which you are amazing at by the way.
Ralastar 9 months ago
@Ralastar Communism and Nazism are two different politics in conflict and you still are a STUPID. Yeah, I'm amazing, but i don´t like your idea of the double morality: I can´t be a Communist and a Nazi at the same time, you idiot COD Fanboy. I preffer be a Socialist to reach the goal of the Communism...with my merits, of course.
AssassinKid0 9 months ago
@AssassinKid0 You're on You tube. You have no merits. Also, it is possible to be a nazi and communist at the same time. You handle it masterfully!
Ralastar 9 months ago
@Ralastar I'm not talking of "You Tube". I'm talking about my personal merits, not about the merits on You Tube to be a Socialist. You should learn to read the entire text and not the part for you to misrepresent. If you keep attacking me, you end up as an idiot.
AssassinKid0 9 months ago
if you strip the 2 down, the similarities are undenyable
motlencore89 10 months ago
no disrepect, but i think Mikhail is hyping is rifle up. He said "this rifle has a absolutely different operating princple, it has nothing to do with german automatic rifle. They have nothing in common." This is somewhat of a lie. The STG and the ak both have the same gas system, so similar operating principle. They both are select fire rifles that shoot a intermediate round (which makes them assault rifles) so they are very similar. Also, the STG is very simple, watch a dissasembly video of it.
a2redneck 10 months ago 5
@a2redneck i totally agree !
MP44StG44Page 10 months ago
@MP44StG44Page yep, im tired of these die hard ak-47 fan that think the ak had nothing to do with the STG. sorry ak fans, but if the STG didn't exist nethier would the ak. Don't get me wrong the ak is a great rifle, but it came from the STG.
a2redneck 10 months ago
@a2redneck There are AKs for almost all calibres. The AK is all about the core mechanism, everything else can be easy changed. And this mechanism has nothing to do wit the STG.
Anderas777 7 months ago
@Anderas777 todays ak's (which aren't true aks) come in different calibers, but i mean the early soviet production of aks, which im talking about and what the video is talking about. "The AK is all about the core mechanism, everything else can be easy changed." I have no idea what you mean by this. "And this mechanism has nothing to do wit the STG." i explained this in my last comment.
a2redneck 7 months ago
@a2redneck Mikhail Kalashnikov is an man of honer. If he says that his weapon has nothing to do with the STG44 I believe him. But I don't expect that you understand this. The AK47 is a symbol of Russian superiority and a lot of people especial in the west did not like it. It is OK, it changes nothing.
Anderas777 7 months ago
@Anderas777 I love the AK-47. Why would you not like it, its reliable, simple and a dime a dozen, but after World War II, as General Designer of small arms for the Soviet Army, his design subordinates included the Germans Hugo Schmeisser, designer of the StG-44, and Werner Grüner. Im not saying the Ak came from the STG but it was heavily influenced by it.
a2redneck 7 months ago
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Anderas777 7 months ago
@a2redneck True, he is telling a bit of a lie, but the M1 Garand,DP-28, and ZB vz. 26 all have a similar operating system and they came before the STG44. In terms of the concept of the assault rifle, the Soviets did indeed copy that. In terms of the actual mechanics, it's splitting hairs as I named guns that came before the STG44 that have similar operating systems.
esh325 6 months ago
@esh325 yeah your right, but you get my point though. He is telling a bit of a lie. From what i see it was the STG that brought it all into one package and it should get the credit.
a2redneck 6 months ago
@a2redneck There's alot of Garand in the AK.
huguenot67 5 months ago
@huguenot67 go on.......
a2redneck 5 months ago
@a2redneck I was as shocked as you are.;-)
huguenot67 5 months ago
@huguenot67 please explain.
a2redneck 5 months ago
@a2redneck The trigger group is so similar as to almost certainly have been copied from the Garand. Mike K. knew good design when he saw it.
huguenot67 5 months ago
@a2redneck The design submitted my MK in the1945 competition that lost out to the SKS was also heavily influenced by the Garand.
huguenot67 5 months ago
@a2redneck Oh, and the AK gas system is kind of a simplified, improved Garand design that been turned upside down.
huguenot67 5 months ago
@huguenot67 cool, thanks for the info.
a2redneck 5 months ago
@a2redneck Hes Russian, meaning his sense of pride outweighs reality, and if I designed the great weapon in existence that sense would exist in me as well. Give the guy a break, they are similar, EVERY assault rifle comes from the Stg44. But its an excellent weapon fear and admired the world over, so would you mind cutting a prideful geezer a little slack?
davedavedaveannoy1 4 months ago
@davedavedaveannoy1 I do give him some slack. I did say: "no disrepect". He did design a simple, yet effective rifle, but to say it had nothing to do with the STG44 is just asinine. World War II, as General Designer of small arms for the Soviet Army, Kalashnikov's design subordinates included the Germans Hugo Schmeisser, designer of the StG-44, and Werner Grüner. Im throwing that fact out there again. I do thank mr.Kalashnikov for putting this rifle together, ill give credit where credit is due
a2redneck 4 months ago
@a2redneck The original designer (the kraut) is long since passed on, and though I do accept that his weapon was the basis for ALL assault rifles I still like the kalashnikov variant more. It is an outstanding weapon, and yes, he did take credit, but can you blame an old revolutionary?
davedavedaveannoy1 4 months ago
@a2redneck and if you look closely the same iron sights
TheWWEFan12 4 months ago
Diffrence:the russians used the captured Stg´s for the design
conclusion:the ak is a better version of the Stg
jasincl 10 months ago
It's based off of STG44.........
GodwinCarpenter 11 months ago
that old bean is stll alive?
peanutz1235 1 year ago
the stg 44 did take meticulous work compared to the ak's stamp metal structure
sawyerbobby 1 year ago
yes its from tales of the gun history channel couldn't write that in cuz the title was 2 long and it wouldnt upload. so i wrote this title 4 the vid.
MP44StG44Page 1 year ago
Even tho you stole this clip from another video...AK's rule!
RantinAndRavin 1 year ago