@philosage I'm not sure where I first heard that counterargument. Even before becoming atheist I was never particularly impressed with the "just look around you, sure looks designed doesn't it?" bit. When you start an Atheist/Agnostic campus organization you pretty much hear every religious argument and counterargument at one time or another, so hardly anything I say is going to be completely original. Alas.
@SecularSocFiend I loved your rebuttal to the watchmaker argument.Did you come up with that rebuttal on your own.I ask because atheists sometimes rely heavily on counter apologetics thats already been done for them.Not that is is necessarily a bad thing but if you did your come with that own your own then great! it just demonstrates the beauty of doing your own counter apologetics.
I love how the guy toward the end says he would not want the girls around his congregation for fear of conversion... tough to compete with reason and facts in a school for fairy tales. XD
I remember when that other girl from NIU spoke. I thought it was a little cowardly she didn't talk to you while you were there. Did the older woman actually call you a seeker when you talked?
@frankwolftown I did not even know anyone from NIU was going to be there. I never talked to her and no one told me anything about it. All I knew was that I had volunteered for this randomly. For them to go out of their way to find someone who knew of me and objected to my activism is kind of strange now that you mention it.
I would also strongly recommend that anyone interested, examine a very powerful analysis of Mr. Harris' secularist perspective & subjectivism by Jackson Lears. The article is called, "The same old new atheism" . It can be read in the May 2011 issue of the Nation Magazine.
Did you feel nervous being around so many militant Christians?
CamdenBloke 6 months ago 4
@philosage I'm not sure where I first heard that counterargument. Even before becoming atheist I was never particularly impressed with the "just look around you, sure looks designed doesn't it?" bit. When you start an Atheist/Agnostic campus organization you pretty much hear every religious argument and counterargument at one time or another, so hardly anything I say is going to be completely original. Alas.
SecularSocFiend 6 months ago
@SecularSocFiend I loved your rebuttal to the watchmaker argument.Did you come up with that rebuttal on your own.I ask because atheists sometimes rely heavily on counter apologetics thats already been done for them.Not that is is necessarily a bad thing but if you did your come with that own your own then great! it just demonstrates the beauty of doing your own counter apologetics.
philosage 6 months ago
ou!tstanding!
wrenforth 6 months ago
"Militant as Katie"? I missed you carrying an AK47 and RPG7. Heck, you weren't even unpleasant, just firm in stating your position.
As for the other girl on stage she seems a bit....sheltered. "People hold ideas and opinions that aren't like mine! Oooo, that frightens me!"
rohanwotan2 6 months ago 5
Well done. You're a brave young woman to wander into the asylum while the inmates are off their tethers.
Nhurm 6 months ago 2
I love how the guy toward the end says he would not want the girls around his congregation for fear of conversion... tough to compete with reason and facts in a school for fairy tales. XD
Aeriths 6 months ago 2
Well done.
Incrediblemouse5 6 months ago
Typical Christians. A lot of them are just interested in converting you and nothing else. Ulterior motives and what not.
MasterAdam100 6 months ago 2
Seeker means seeking truth, not more brainwashing. Obviously it meant something else to her.
cutes22 6 months ago
I remember when that other girl from NIU spoke. I thought it was a little cowardly she didn't talk to you while you were there. Did the older woman actually call you a seeker when you talked?
frankwolftown 6 months ago
@frankwolftown I did not even know anyone from NIU was going to be there. I never talked to her and no one told me anything about it. All I knew was that I had volunteered for this randomly. For them to go out of their way to find someone who knew of me and objected to my activism is kind of strange now that you mention it.
SecularSocFiend 6 months ago
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I would also strongly recommend that anyone interested, examine a very powerful analysis of Mr. Harris' secularist perspective & subjectivism by Jackson Lears. The article is called, "The same old new atheism" . It can be read in the May 2011 issue of the Nation Magazine.
shieldsff 3 months ago
I like how the one guy said you were very convincing.
cutes22 6 months ago
Atta girl!
teerav707 6 months ago
Brilliant!!!
CamdenBloke 6 months ago