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  • 1. most people dont choose religion over science. 2.yes. 3.no. 4. i dont admire anyone with religious beliefs. 5.no.

  • Why should I care about your opinions concerning religion when you don't have any close personal friends who are religious? Your opinion would probably be different if you did. I'm not saying it would make you a believer, but it would certainly change your opinion. I have lots of friends who disagree with me about religion, but I still respect their views. I'm sick of people who can't get along with others just because they disagree on politics, religion, etc.

  • I'm an Atheist too. Here is what I came up with... sagargorijala DOT blogspot DOT com

    You can clearly notice that gods can not exist but there is nothing wrong with belief!!!

    If you do good as long as you are alive it is OKAY??? Belief is just a state of mind... No need to blame each other ( Atheist vs Theist --- WHY??? )

  • NOT THIS SNATCH AGAIN, DAMN QUIT POSTING THIS SHIT JUST TO GET ATTENTION AND LET PEOPLE MAKE THERE OWN DECISION. WHY R U RECRUTING ??? YOUR FUCKED UP MENTALLY

  • I have watched quite a few of your videos now and well you seem to have quite a lot of comments so i dont suppose you will even read mine but i really wish you would actually look into claims and arguments people have made rather than just jumping in and making a statement. I'm not trying to cause arguments, i'm serious please look into both sides of an argument before rushing in with some half baked judgement on a situation

  • Great answers.

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  • @RadarGuidedVermin Awesome comeback troll. 

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  • In order to be an atheist you must have an IQ of 100 or higher. Stupid people need fairy-tales (Santa Claus, Jesus, Allah, etc). If you have an IQ of 120 or higher then you are 100% an atheist. Smart people are unable to believe in fairy-tales.

  • @300prodotes IQ's have nothing to do with judgement, it's just the horsepower of the brain, Bobby Fischer for example, has a hate for Jews. /watch?v=M_11Cdxvtfo

  • Premise 1: Eternal life is more valuable than mortal life

    Premise 2: Jesus sacrificed his mortal life to carry on God's plan and free people of sin.

    Premise 3: Judas, by God's plan, treason Jesus in order for him to be sacrficed. For being a traitor, Judas burn in hell forever.

    Now my question is: Who made the ultimate sacrfice?

  • @AndrusPr8 Very good!

  • @AndrusPr8 I'm an atheist. I would have to say it wasn't God's plan because Judas hanged himself. I assume it was his own free will. Then there is the problem of Jesus's magic powers. If I think about it, someone who can do anything you want such as bringing the dead to life and solving world hunger, why would you kill him or betray him for a few silver coins? It took a long time for me to figure that out. I guess my IQ is really low :)

  • "We are, by astronomical standards, a pampered, cosseted, cherished group of creatures.. .. If the Universe had not been made with the most exacting precision we could never have come into existence. It is my view that these circumstances indicate the universe was created for man to live in."

    John O'Keefe (astronomer at NASA)

  • "For the scientist who has lived by his faith in the power of reason, the story ends like a bad dream. He has scaled the mountains of ignorance; he is about to conquer the highest peak; as he pulls himself over the final rock, he is greeted by a band of theologians who have been sitting there for centuries."

    Robert Jastrow

  • "I find it quite improbable that such order came out of chaos. There has to be some organizing principle. God to me is a mystery but is the explanation for the miracle of existence, why there is something instead of nothing."

    Alan Sandage (winner of the Crawford prize in astronomy)

  • I want you to know that I absolutely love your videos and I agree with almost all of your views. I especially agree with you about stem cell research. You are very good at getting your point across in a highly intelligent manner, so I wanted to tell you how much I respect you intellectually before I tell you that....YOUR CUTE AS HELL.

  • 1. Religion provides all of the benifits of community without any intellectual honesty required, it's a defense mechanism against the big questions that keep us up a night and replace them with "daddy's here, forget all about it "

    2. We are social creatures of habit, short answer... yes.

    3. Only slightly, ignorance deserves little respect under any circumstances.

    4. Jack kerouac, Dostoevsky.

    5. There is lttle inherent poetic value in the bible. from a hostorical perspective, yes.

  • Is it religion you are against or belief in God, in any sense, no matter how circumspect?

  • She IS CORRECT. She can't understand the TRANSFORMATION of some people. She erroneously things it happens in their BRAIN. The truth is...it's the HEART that has been transformed.

  • @bornagain001 You do mean that symbolically right? The fact is that the human heart performs a mechanical function in the body. Did you mean that emotion is what brings people to faith instead of reason?

  • @scienceman96 ...Nope...it is REASON that brings people to Christ. We have to UNDERSTAND our sin to be able to SURRENDER IT to Christ. Until you UNDERSTAND (reason) that it is YOUR SIN that seperates you from God....you will always be a slave to it.

  • @bornagain001 Thank you for clarifying. I appreciate the fact that you took time out of your day to give me the message of your faith. One suggestion that I have, though, is that before you do that it is important to listen to people first. This is something that I've noticed in a lot of people of faith who look to win over non-believers; sometimes they preach before they listen. After you listen completely to a person, then it is much easier to find the best ways to move forward. Wish you well.

  • @scienceman96 ..the act of "winning over " the UNBELIEVER is not in our (the Christians) hands. That MIRACULOUS TRANSFORMATION happens by the work of the Holy Spirit. Every word I say and every good act I perform will do no good without the Holy Spirit's involvement.

  • You don't believe in bigfoot? Check out "everything you know is wrong) by pye (on youtube).

  • "Would you be more respectful of religion if it never caused harm or interfered with science?"

    I answer "But it does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods or no God. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg." -Thomas Jefferson

    Unfortunately, religions have always sought to cause mischief and interfere with science. It is a matter of competition for the minds of men.

  • I think the "lightning bolt" moments, Heaven & Hell, angels, demons, folk singers, God and all that crap are random DMT trips induced by the brain

  • 1) most people choose religion over science simply because most people are stupid.

    stupid people are the reason democracy is such a joke. it's the dictatorship of the (dumb) masses.

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  • Can athiests understand the science in these videos:

    watch?v=ZjSd9wB55zk

    watch?v=5d5iIoCiI8g

    Or are they way to consumed with the pointless pursuit of trying to prove there's no God, to wrap their minds around REAL science? Not philosophy...SCIENCE!

    Something tells me athiests aren't nearly as smart as they think they are, and this is why they'd rather engage in this tired old debate that could never have a resolution. What a fuckin' waste of time!

  • What happens in the brain?  Temporal lobe epilepsy!

  • What if religion was designed to actually turn people away from God? What if it was designed in such a way that it would lead many because they don't take time to prove things for themselves? And at the same time have enough holes in it, in its various forms, to ensure that those who actually look at everything and thiMk, would be able to see the fallacy in it? Does the fact that world religions fall so completely short, prove that God doesn't exist?

  • my dad was an atheist and my mom was a christian now im a strong atheist

  • @AjDeal825

    Your argument is a "slippery slope" argument. It is a logical fallacy. Look it up.

  • I want to thank you for helping me seeing through the veil. I was a pagan who despised Theists, but now I have come to the conclusion that all religions have some form of totalitarianism in their teachings. Little or a lot, it is still totalitarianism, and it still castrates indivuality. The religous right of the USA and Canada and the Muslim influence in the European Union prove that George Orwell was ahead of his time. Big Brother is here in the form of religion.

  • I know only two people who became religious, one of them was literally certifiably insane (seriously he was committed twice), the other was an asshole who just didn't want to give his family any money, so he gave it all to the Jehovah's Witnesses.

  • u cant disprove god lol

  • @sirbestnameever And you can not prove god.

  • @lovesyajess FAIL 

  • i chose to be an athiest even tho my whole family is christian but i never disprespected or argued with there beliefs because i believe everyone has a right to there own beliefs.

  • Science is not a religion so that is a dumb question. You use science to watch youtube you IDIOT. People are unclear what science means.

  • @vnewtruth Science can be a religion in a way. Religion is beliefs . So there are thousands of people who belief in Big Bang.

  • @lovesyajess I totally agree with you.

  • @lovesyajess

    Religion is our first attempt at science they both ask questions and seek answers. Science is not religion because all religions require faith, something science rejects ;)

  • @vnewtruth I'm not gonna agrue with you over the internet .Think whatever you want.

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  • @ forumlight: it is clear you do not know what you are talking about. You do not seem to know how the scientific method works, like most religious people I have met, despite education trying to expose it to you.

  • You know, Your beautiful

  • According to the Quantom theory, you and me exist in multiple universes, do you believe that ? if so why ?

  • The real question that should be asked: why do some people not question why a belief system that is not observable and not able to be shown in repeatable test cases is being called science.

  • No one chooses religion over science. The fish to man story of evolution is not science. The real problem is the false claim that such a belief is science. The story claims populations of animals that were clearly not [finches] (pick any animal you wish) evolved over generations eventually into [finches]. Such a belief is not observable and not able to be shown in repeatable test cases - not science.

  • "The fundamentalist religions person is so fervently, avidly, belligerently ignorant, and wants to stay that way"

    Well said

  • Alice MIller thinks that many people abused as children turn to religion (or "spirituality") unconsciously to carry on the abuse.

    Google “spirituality cements childhood blindness" by Barbara Rogers.

  • 1.nope some of us choose the religion we are

    2. no

    3. then I guess we just ignore that alot of scientist are/were religious including darwin

    4. I highly respect those that I know that are theist and atheist whn they are worth respect

    5. Sort of like your video skills and sarcastic tone

    by the way nice norse inspired necklace you have on

  • I study physics, believe in and love the creator of the universe.

    I detest religion and what it has done to this world.

    There is new paradigm growing. People like me who can fully exist on the side of science and love of god at the same time, because we do not see them as different. God created the laws of the universe and left us with a desire to learn that will eventually lead us to all knowledge.

    Why do so many followers on opposing sides not realise that both are easily unified

  • Darwin's 150th birthday. My biochem teacher brought a cake with a hi res(for frosting) image of Darwin on it

  • what! we've already got the basics for quantum computers, Kurzweil soundly predicts higher intelligence with a singularity too come and now you've got Sarfatti suggesting we are surrounded by a future horizon with feedback loops responsible for dark matter, really, ignorance and arrogance truly are two sides of the same coin.

  • I USED to view religulous pple as being innocuous and harmless--delusional at worst, but now I realize how dangerous they are to the progress of humanity!

    I USED to be for freedom of religion (as long as it didn't encroach upon my life), but now I'm for freedom FROM religion, as I have concluded it is the bane of humankind!

    As the religulous view non-believers with contempt, we atheists should NOT afford them the tiniest bit of respect, but regard them as we would any crazy person--fearfully!

  • @Bongofury361 i concur and fully agree with you

  • I despise this dumb bitch. She strikes me as a female Stalin. A female Mao. *Gasp* A female Hitler! She is dangerous, pure and simple. Anyone who likes this stinky, crab infested skank should be placed on the rack, Inquisition style!

  • I came across a video from a black american guy who said that white people have made themselves gods nowdays (atheism).

  • Ya might want to check out Darwin's evidence, that still has yet to be found, showing species with traits of both from and to species.

    Darwin was a racist and genocidalists have been using his theory ever since, but it's still just a theoey that is taught as fact.

  • @UnoRaza

    Um....I think you're misinformed about the ToE, what constitutes a "transitional form", whether or not transitional forms have been discovered, whether additional evidence in the form of genetics, phylogenetics, evo-devo, geology, paleontology, and a plethora of other disciplines has not been stacked pile upon pile to confirm that Darwin's initial impressions were indeed correct.

    You post bespeaks a woeful lack of education. Sad, really.

  • what the dumb atheists don't understand is faith is pleasing to God. People in far more oppresive countries are punished and quieted for their faith, you think God will make it super easy for you. I think his existence is obvious, you should be careful.

  • All atheists worship Satan. Some do it simply to anger Christians even further by following God's arch-enemy. Most worship Richard Dawkins.

  • @MultiPropagandaPanda Grow up and get a life. Or better still, lose one and prove my atheist point of view correct when you go back to NOTHING.

  • @MultiPropagandaPanda

    EEEK!!! You're RIGHT!!! OH my Satan, we've been FOUND OUT!!!!!

    What WILL we do? Does this mean we have to stop the kitten sacrifices? Or the baby mutilations?

    Must contact Dawkins right away. He'll be appalled that our little secret is out. Drat. And I was bringing the lemon squares to the next kitten sacrifice.

    /snark

  • @middlekk look by rediculing the truth you only twist yourself into lies, reject the truth and go to your WoW illusion world. peace

  • @MultiPropagandaPanda

    By not being able to spell "ridiculing", you out yourself as an uneducated moron.

    Fuck off.

  • @middlekk english is my 3rd language, sorry that i interupted your illusion world your majestetic kingdom, spelling have nothing to do with you lieing to yourself and accepting it by making others seems to be stupid. peace

  • @MultiPropagandaPanda

    Ah, I see. I lair and a troll. Sorry god-bot. I have better things to do.

    You may be under the mistaken impression that he who posts last, wins. I can assure you this is not necessarily the case.

    Fuck off twice.

  • @middlekk your reply to me first, you dont know me, why try to attack my personality you think you know me by looking at my channel sherlock? even if i was a troll or a bot, so what does it say? your arguing with a troll and bot, how stupid are you then? yeah right go back to WoW.....peace

  • Atheism is being a concept of God, which in the same time claimly oppose the existance of God, so from atheist point of view, they are against a concept which doesnt exist in first place, why bothering theist, and say NO YOUR WRONG! IAM SMARTER AND KNOW BETTER >:( ,Praise The Lord and his rightouse Sheeple Jesus Christos.

  • LaVeyan Satanism is less of a belief in a religion, and more an excuse to be a total self-righteous asshole to everyone irl. They use Satan more as a symbol, and as a way of setting ideals. LaVeyan Satanists can be considered Atheists who see life as a measure of how happy you can make yourself and who one day hope to become IRL Demon Lords.

  • Theistic Satanism is the actual religious belief in Satan as a deity. This is the type of shit you already knew about, where the followers often get together to praise Satan, dress in costumes and drink Satan's cockjuice or something. They believe that if they kiss enough ass, they'll actually have a happy and un-tormenting eternal life in Hell, but the truth is, even if Hell existed, Satan would still rape the fuck out of them forever, since it's just how he rolls.

  • You know what happens when a women never have a hard hitting men ? She will go to youtube and act that she knows about religion.Evolution leads to eugenics...just ask Hitler.God loves all amputees, even faith amputees such as yourselves.

  • Joseph Stalin, Atheist: 20 million plus dead

    Mao-Tse-Tung, Atheist: 40 million plus dead

    Adolf Hitler, Atheist: 10 million plus dead

    Pol Pot, Atheist: 2 million dead

    Kim-Il-Sung, Atheist: 5 million dead

    Fidel Castro, Atheist: 1 million dead

    Maximilien Robespierre, father of secular France, Atheist: 40,000 dead

  • Where atheism stands out is in the insistence that it is based on fact, and not based at all on faith. As there is no way to use logic to prove or disprove the existence of God, atheism is, in fact, based completely on theory and faith. Atheists may be the True Non-Believers, but their arguments are still shit, and will ultimately all just end up burning in Hell.

  • Atheism is a religion for people who worship science Richard Dawkins instead of God. It is most notably the only religion without any real basis or organization whatsoever. Its followers are no less uneducated, dogmatic and fanatical about their chosen spiritual path than they claim Muslims, Christians, Hindoos or Jews are.

  • The feminist agenda is not about equal rights for women. It is about a socialist, anti-family political movement that encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism, and become lesbians.

  • Good looking girl. Since I'm completely uneducated I can't think of anything beyond that. What ever you're saying I agree with.

  • "The entire Christian teaching as to what shall be believed, the entire Christian "truth," is idle falsehood and deception; and precisely the opposite of what inspired the Christian movement in the beginning."

    Friedrich Nietzsche

    Amen

    Love without Law is foolish it could only lead to chaos.

  • There is no solution to the problem of religion. To want to eradicate it is preposterous. You cant end ignorance. Whats great about being Atheist tho is that religion has no influence over you whatsoever. I dont hate it, I dont feel obliged to it, it doesnt affect my day to day life. I accept its existence and get on with my life. The world is too large and interesting to get caught up trying to prove people that theyre wrong. There is more to life than religion, so leave it to the religious.

  • You'd make an awesome Nun hun.

  • Even the nonfundamentalists can be problematic as far as beliefs go.

    Ken Miller is a scientist, but his Catholic beliefs mean that he also believes in the Anthropic Principle (that the Universe was designed for humans, rather than humans appearing as they do because of the way the Universe is set up).

  • Jonlajoi s lates video is not available in Germany... I understood why when i heardit was to do with the Pope....... the german pope, pedophile hider (ped..?) catholic Germany could use some mirrors to take the edge of hypocracy n maybe unstupify the odd religeously y jumbled brain ??

  • In my opinion, a person who thinks beliefs can be chosen is a person who does not take his or her beliefs seriously. One of the realizations that led me to atheism was the difference between knowledge and belief, and that true knowledge must be grounded in fact. Once I realized that I cannot possible know certain things, I was forced to re-evaluate what I actually believed. As a result, I find I am incapable of believing anything NOT grounded in fact. I do not choose my beliefs.

  • @burchdc I realize that my last post jumped around several ideas fairly quickly without drawing a clear line between them (stupid YouTube comment limit), so I'll try to elaborate a bit.

    When I was a theist, I thought I KNEW that God existed. If asked how I knew, I couldn't give a good answer; I just knew it. I had to know it, because I care that my beliefs are true. If I didn't have actual knowledge of a God, my belief would have been shallow, little more than an opinion. I called this faith.

  • @burchdc However, after learning some real history about Christianity I realized that I might just be wrong about a few things. I still firmly believed in God (and in my knowledge of him), but I started to realize, slowly, that just maybe some of my beliefs really weren't grounded in knowledge. This concerned me. If something I "knew" to be true was proven wrong, I could no longer justify belief in it. Slowly, my world view started to change.

  • @burchdc Even so, I still did not realize what the core problem was. I did not see the difference between true knowledge and what I had thought was knowledge. In fact, I didn't even really know what knowledge was at the time. I knew that actual, objective TRUTH was elusive, even impossible to obtain, but it took me a while to realize that, despite this, actual KNOWLEDGE can exist, even though it may be fallible.

  • @burchdc Knowledge is the most correct interpretation of a given set of facts. That is, it is a scientific theory that best fits all the current data. For instance, today we have knowledge of a (mostly) spherical Earth. The data that supports this is overwhelming, and given satellite imagery there remains no doubt of this fact. Compare this to the belief that was once held that the Earth was flat.

  • @burchdc While this interpretation may be fairly accurate for a person without any measuring tools, the belief was held long after sufficient means of determining otherwise were devised. Eratosthenes was the first (recorded) person to measure the diameter of the Earth, back in 276 BC, long before the Catholic church was claiming that the Earth was flat. Data was available, but was not collected because there was little interest in determining fact; the Church already "knew".

  • @burchdc True knowledge can only come as a result of its pursuit, by gathering as much data as possible and testing a hypothesis against it. Simple observations are not enough. This realization forced me to re-evaluate many of the things I had simply assumed were true, and gradually I began to replace unfounded beliefs with actual knowledge. In other words, my beliefs began to be based on knowledge, not the other way around. As a result, I do not choose my beliefs; I discover them.

  • I like the term, 'clan cohesion'

  • re: question 1

    I wouldn't say that many people actually choose religion over science. I know plenty of Christians at my uni studying scientific subjects.

  • old testament is just one long horrible horror story....

  • I like Aesop's Fables. I think it's about on the same level. There are some contradictions and it's equally unbelievable.

  • I agree on every point. thanks for posting this

  • I think the people that do choose religion over science do so because of the things religion promises. The world through the eyes of, say, Christianity, is a very small place built on very simple rules, and everything in that world tilts on human concerns. This is appealing for obvious reasons. Science presents a world that is complex in which people who wrong you may never be punished. Religion is like a fantasy camp.

  • I'm curious..is there any special meaning to the triskelion that you wear around your neck?

  • You are thinking too logical on God. It is like thinking 'Pi' as a rational number. God is infinite, Now who is God ......of the bible, of koran, of Other religion??? God for me is judeo -christian, Why it is, because i think this irrational toward our finite mind seem more reasonable than complete blind faith. God is a creator, so i believe it is my creator.

  • your opinion is what democracy works

  • "Religion is child abuse."

    Yeah, I've had that thought for a few months now.

  • Here is my 2 cents

    1. People don't choose religion, for the most part they believe what their parents believe.

    2. I'm not sure "replace" would apply. Secular equivalence? To what? There are no rituals in Atheisism.

    3. Yes

    4. As long as they don't try to shove their belief down my throat, I would treat them as I would want to be treated.

    5. Yes

  • I think that we have to be careful, we must realize that we evolve in our culture, and we carry over adherences of the past. Lets not forget about them because we realize they are not true. They are important to understand who we are, so just because of that, we must appreciate the power they have over us as a people

  • The bible (as has Christian doctrine) has helped mold our current cultural stance (for better or worse), and i think it would be irresponsible to leave it out of our history / art / literature investigation just because actual belief of it is ridiculous.

  • Although the bible is in fact "bad art" as you say. You can't deny the influence they have on culture. We have tons of stories that have been told that go back to it, art goes back to it, literature goes back to it, etc.

  • Are you related to Nykytyne2? You guys look similar and have similar mannerism. At least, that's what I observe. Also, I'm pretty much a loosely defined deist. BTW, what do you think of deism. And do you think that atheists should be more welcoming of deists?

  • FvR is Hot!

  • @FactVsReligion I can't tell you exactly what goes on in the mind of a person in the moment of coming into faith.

    What I can do, if you like, is to give you a detailed account of how it felt and the surrounding events... from the perspective of someone who is now an Atheist.

    Many year ago I took a somewhat spiritual journey from agnostic -> christian ->agnostic -> atheist. This gives me an interesting perspectiv on the inside of christianity.

  • "The fact the fundamentalist religious person is so Fervently Avidly Belligerently ignorant and wants to stay that way."

    Wow. That needs to be a T-shirt or something

  • It's called temporal lobe epilepsy

  • 5. No. Religion is a bane to society and should be discarded, as a non-fact, dogmatic belief, not founded in truth, but faith. This also distinguishes fact from faith, making the faithfull non-factual, hence wrong. Nuf said.

  • 4. People have beliefs, religious or otherwise, that are not my own. Scientific principle demands me to hear everyone with a coherent story to be taken seriously. Just seems such a waste when the bible is thrown up like a source of absolute knowledge again. It is not. Next question?

  • 3. Religion (being faith over knowledge) will never gain more respect from me, even if it stayed out of my life. I'll just be more inclined to not trip over it so much.

  • 2. Why is there always a follow up question on something you had to refute before? Replacing dogma with dogma will never help. Discarding dogma will, and all these religious special days, are just keeping me from buying stuff when I want to.

  • 1. People don't choose religion over science. They just choose religion. Science is just too much to handle for them, I guess. They rather have one god to govern it all, than have to know a myriad of weird formula's. Ignorance over knowledge.

  • I think we have already started taking the christian holidays, like christmas, and making them our own, just like the christians did with the pagans.

  • 1. It's the easy, lazy way out.

    2. Why? If you're talking holidays, we already have purely secular holidays, where we can take a day off without penalty, kick back, and relax. I can't think of any other religious rituals worth replacing.

    3. Accepting fantasy over reality in making real life decisions is harmful, so religion always causes harm imo.

    4. I do see how religion limits their contributions, in some real life cases.

    5. Maybe. I find mythology interesting, and that would mean more myths.

  • Irrelevant, but you look just like you did as a child when you make certain facial expressions. You seemed very precocious. :O)

  • FvR- I agree 100% with all you said

  • I had a spontaneous 'this is bullshit!' conversion.... Do I count?

  • @happysplodie lol

  • My father is a walking contradiction. He is an ultra orthodox jew, and an applied physicist. HOW?! My mom is worse. She is a medical doctor, and cannot get away from the truth of evolution, having the biology background that she does. However, she manages to somehow tie evolution into her near literal belief in the judeo-christian creation myth. I don't get it.

  • Nice video

  • This first time I found out religion to be harmful was when a preacher suddenly changed the subject of his sermon to the subject of homosexuality. He preached how long hair on men meant that they must be gay and that homosexuality is a sin. He didn't come right out and say that gays should be put to death. But he did say that they would die young from the God-inflicted disease AIDS. I believe the sermon was directed at me, as I was in my teens and had long hair at that time.

  • Both religion and science has been used for the most sordid human endeavours. I can't seem to see why one would staunchly oppose or support either of the two.

    To say anything relevant one has to be more specific. Reality are harder to grasp. It's just to easy to say that religion is bad and science is wrong.

    Am I right or wrong or somewhere in between ?

  • @PtrFmls

    i think you've somehow totally missed the point. it most definitely ISNT easy to say that religion is bad. ppl get put to death for doing that sometimes. let me tell you why people would staunchly oppose or support either of the two.

    Religion STATES things as RIGHT, as PERFECT and unquestionable. thats dangerous and a great retardation to society as it hinders the very ideas of progress or development. not to mention, is detrimental to social health and is a great cause of oppression -

  • @PtrFmls

    - to various members of society. Religion preaches a dubious idea of morals and forces many to live an unfulfilling fake pseudo life filled with insincerity, greed and fear.

    so i think its quite obvious :S what do you think???

  • @PtrFmls While it is true that both religion and science have been misused, religion is far more dangerous than science, IMO, and unlike science is not worth the risk. The reason for this is simple. The goal of science is to learn as much as possible about the world we live in. In other words, science exists to minimize ignorance. Religion, on the other hand, tends to encourage ignorance by convincing people they already know things they can't possible know.

  • @burchdc Religion itself has often been the direct cause of violence. I am not claiming that all "religious" wars and atrocities are solely the fault of religion itself, but a good portion of them are. Science is never the motivating force behind such atrocities (although it has been used as a scapegoat in the past, just as religion has).

    Finally, IMO the benefits of science far outweigh the potential risks. I struggle to find any benefits of religion that can not be found elsewhere.

  • I'll always be angry that I was lied to. I never got the chance to learn anything of my "Family History" because of those lies. Now that I am truly free, I am learning as much as I can about evol;ution, the accurate story of our family history. Strangely enough, I feel so much more spiritual connection with Life & Cosmos now more than ever!

  • @727Phoenix Oh poor you. what good is knowing the family you come from. You will not exist in years to come. What use is spirit and cosmos to you then. Just dead !And if you find out then, you were lied to by the athiests then oops. Justs ask yourself why are people trying so hard to make you a non believer. All orginal texts of the old religion say the same. Difference comes from the corrupt believers not thier religion.

  • The bible is written worse than Twilight.

  • @razgrizinferno hahaha

  • @razgrizinferno And that's saying something.

  • @razgrizinferno well said lol

  • (my intentions are not to disrespect) 5 different questions that get 5 impervious, opinionated answers. the only FACT that all humans will eventually learn, one way or the other, is that they're all ending up in a box, or an urn, and that you cannot take ANYTHING from your time alive with you! (my intentions are not to disrespect)

  • Great answers FVR 8)))

    1 Most people in the world accept both science and religion.

    2 Religious and secular celebrations are paramount to reflect the community accurately and helps towards reciprocity of celebrational acceptance.

    3 Yes & it would help if it stopped, period, before any healing can commence!

    4 I take people individually irrespesctively anyway, I doesn't matter!

    5 Not taken literally. Holy books are word association tests, not life manuals. 8)

  • i can appreciate the dark humor of a bunch of bronze age idiots trying to figure out what their morality is, by murmuring to an invisible man in the sky. pretty good art if you ask me, in fucked up sort of way.

  • @GrayLight18:

    While I certainly think there is an aspect of entertainment to that, I also think treating religious dogma with the disdain it deserves serves as a sort of duty to humanity after millenia of unwarranted respect.

    Please watch this video and its follow-up, if you haven't yet, to see what I'm talking about:

    watch?v=J5mCpSjZwV4

  • "Very occasionally you'll get someone who goes through one of those spontaneaous transformations and becomes avidly religious overnight... I think those are flukes, I don't know what happens to somebody's brain..."

    You said it yourself -- flukes! Flukes will burrow into their brain and make them go crazy.

  • #2 What secular equivalents are there to a virgin birth or the infallibility of the Pope? What could there possibly be that would help us to sleep at night like knowing that all our most heinous sins can and will be forgiven if we repent? Other than Pipeline on the north shore, where could we possibly pilgrimage that would give us a sense of awe equal to a counter-rotation of the Kaaba? Besides getting totally toasted at Cabo, what's equal to the self flagellation of true believers?

    No thanks.

  • I really don't follow and understand what u are talking about, u looks very sweet and u have cute teeth. :-)

  • 1. Because its simple to understand and science and reasoning are difficult and sometimes don't give you answers just more questions.

    2. Yes, I think things like Darwin Day could help people feel more comfortable about secularism in general cos I think an aspect of that keeps people in relgion is the communal aspect of it.

    3. Tolerant yes respectful no cos I still think its silly and unfounded.

    4. My mom is religious but she a liberal christian so she's not really that bad. (cont)

  • @AGodlessProgressive (cont) She just has some annoying views.

    5. I think from an historical aspect it is important to talk about because it did shape the course of human history for better or worse. But its taken so damn seriously that its hard to imagine a world were people take a historical view of religion and not literal interpretation of it.

  • I think religion is a form of virus, insubstantial, spread by certain means, difficult to dislodge, but working with deadly effect on higher brain function.

    That might make a good science fiction story.

  • look up Temporal Lobe epilepsy. A friend of mine had it and he (to him) literally had 2 way conversations with god. He didn't think people could be christians if they didn't actually talk with god. Other than that he was very intelligent and sane.

  • FactVsReligion Saves Jesus Slaves.

  • This is rather unfortunate. It is widely acknowledge that the KJV is equal to Shakespeare as a model for English and that it achieves a height of style no less elevated than Shakespeare. Go read the first chapter of John in the KJV and listen to the English rather than dismiss the proto-Gnostic myth. Even the Neoplatonist Longinus praised the beauty and simplicity of that passages (and Gen 1 in the Septuagint), and the KJV is even so vastly superior to the Greek original in its literary power.

  • Darwin Day is awesome. This year I had way more fun on Darwin day at school then I did at Easter at home (no one in my house is religious at all, but we still do something for Easter just because.. but no one's heart is really into it)

  • Is that an ipad?

  • @barthburger no it's a mac book pro

  • You're right, if religion were nothing but a collection of myths, it would be silly and harmless. It's the fact that it undermines science, and inspires people to commit atrocities based on their religious dogmas, that makes it a genuine menace and something worth fighting against.

  • You look like Robin Scherbatsky! :)

  • For a fleeting moment I thought you would be answering *interesting* questions. No such luck...

  • as someone who plans to become a biotechnologist the stem cell stuff also erks me

    i wonder if religious nutcases will storm my lab in a few years

  • @qdragon1337 Put on your bullet proof vest on and hope for some nervous trigger fingers of US christian suicide nutjobs...

    Must be disturbing to have paraniod cavedwellers as neighbours (Saskatchewan?).

    Don´t forget to mind your towel...

  • good job!!

  • 1. It's easy to choose religion over thinking.

    2. Yes. If America had more holidays we could enjoy life and still be productive. Take Japan for example.

    3. Yes. Our World would be smarter and more advanced if religion didn't ruin everything.

    4. I still think they are delusional.

    5. Yes. Religion within cultural history is fascinating and relevant to understanding people all around the World. It's scary when idiots take the Bible and religious texts literally.

  • Nearly...

    1. ambiguous certainty over certain ambiguity

    2. Of course: even if jezuz existed he must have been a tremendous party dude (feeding of the five thousand?)

    3. Well, where´s the straightjacket?

    4." Silence is golden, Duc Tape is silver."

    5.Definitely: "if it were not taken literally "!!!!

  • Started with quite a long comment but you covered alot of what I had on my mind/ Great video! Keep it up!

  • I was brought up in a really religious family. But i had the common sense and logic to realise that it was all bullshit. I also think it was my love for science and wanting to find out more about life and my own existence through my own doing rather than listening to an imaginary person or believing in shit like god or the after life.

  • One reason people experience" life changing transformations" or conversions is because they receive an immediate sense of purpose. Religions offer 'Zero to Hero' transformations for people who perceive themselves of lower estate. JMO

    I was a pastor for 17 years. I am not an atheist.

  • Bigfoot could be real. Do some research!

  • @CanadiaNecro1 -well of course Bigfoot *could* be real, but unicorns could be real, too. The question is whether there is any more evidence for it than some fuzzy, questionable videos that could easily be a person in a costume, a bear, etc. If there is some good evidence for it, I'm sure it would stand up to some peer review in a reputable journal.

  • I agree with FVS.R in this video, probably even to a higher degree. Anytime a group of people hurt others from finding a cure for their loved ones, they should be stopped. I don't agree with the tactics of You Tube atheists, but might be more inclined to think religion actually does more harm than the you tube atheists.

  • A lot of people I knew growing up who were religious also didn't let science contradict their beliefs, and really only a few of them I knew rejected science. Maybe it's just because I live in California.

    To me, it's not religion in general that I find to be dangerous, but rather the way people interpret it. You could argue, for example, that Christianity would be dangerous because it's very difficult to translate the bible in any sensible way, so you can have peaceful vs. dangerous Christians.

  • I could go on for days, and please note that all these examples are recent. We've had thousands of years of people NOT respecting made-up BS opinions that ARE harmful, or atleast contain harmful pathways/ideas to lower the casualties of what stems from "respecting religious opinion" Once apon a time in history, there was far more repsect for religious opinion, we refer to that time as the Dark Ages

  • I look through all these "Its just opinion, I respect rel opinion" "even if its not my own", "even if its demonstrably false" etc etc. To what degree? At what point does it become ok to go, No, Your wrong! Is it before or after their religious opinion blows up the school? Is it before or after their religious opinion prevents things like Stemcell research? Is it before of after their religious opinion shoots the doctor that performs abortions?