A question about SBR, if someone uses a Mako Collapsible Stock or an ENDO Tactical Stock Adapter on a glock, is it then a SBR and subject to NFA restrictions?
i have a question my cousin is in the military and my uncle is law enforcement they want to own their own new fully automatic machine guns how can they do the process because they are in military and law enforcement
Military & LEO doesn't mean those people get any special treatment.. it means their departments, or their units are able to posses them, and the members may be issued them to use.. no one owns the NFA item
From someone who is not a gun enthusiast, I commend you for your very professional and informative presentation. You dispelled some of the myths I had about NFA weapons.
your vid said that nfa items are not allowed in missouri, but the batf site said only supressors and destructive devices are restricted. and if they are allowed can aow's be used for a ccw? full auto looks expensive, but would make a great investment. and great vid. the nfa laws get kind of confusing.
@ljarmy84 I'm sure that explosive DD's are probably on the civilian market I've just never seen them, however the big curiousity that has been driving me crazy is, are the controls for them slightly different due to the fact that the items or weapons are explosive? Grenade launchers like M203s are on sale all the time but maybe sometimes I would like to legally use HE rounds in safe non-criminal target practice! Any body know of a place?
I'd like to offer a distinction about the SBR characteristic of having a "buttstock". I visited a pawn shop displaying what I believe would be classified as a SBR, unfortunately you can't be licensed in Illinois for a Class III firearm. I pointed this out to the owner, he's kind of one of those types who takes it as an affront if you tell him something in his case is illegal. He argued that because it's collapsible, it doesn't count - lol I looked it up and the ATF site says "shoulder fired"
@GunWebsites I debated whether or not to rat on him, being that I'm not entirely on board with the idea of the NFA laws, but I decided I'd better say something to somebody because the guy who's likely to get in trouble is the unassuming, ill-informed individual who buys it thinking "well if the FFL holder says it's okay..." So I dropped the ATF a note, but I never heard back. I supposed I should have contacted local law enforcement. I don't know if it's still there, I may go back by to check.
I have no problem if someone wants to legally own a machine gun, but my thoughts are, whats the point? Usually you are just burning ammo and wasting money. I might be biased because, I prefer accuracy over fire power and I own a bolt action rifle. Hell, most of the time the military/police rarely fires on full auto. I know someone in the Coast Guard that used the M16 with the 3-shot burst and he never used the 3-shot option.
@GunsOfThePhoenix I was in the Marines and throughout boot camp, they emphasized "one shot, one kill" and prohibited us from using the three round burst on our M16A2's. This came as a result of the abject waste of millions of rounds in Vietnam with next to nothing to show for it - lol They wanted to instill the idea that the best shots are well aimed shots. Full auto is for suppressive fire, which may be useful if you're expecting a break down of social order and/or an invasion.
NC, SC, MO are NFA friendly (some local restrictions), you can legally own all types of NFA items. NY, CA, RI, DE, DC, HI, IL, IA, MN are ILLEGAL to own any type of NFA item no matter what unless LEO/Military.
Just a little nitpick but the photo that you posted of the revolver with a stock is a black powder pistol and is not considered a NFA item. sorry lol lots of good info though
@GunWebsites Really? Thats interesting. I'm in AR - I'd like to know what our laws say here. I would personally rather have a subcompact semi-auto anyways, but it would be nice to know.
For the purposes of your video, concerning NFA items for individuals, not Mil / LEO, California stands as an NFA restricted state. 'Good cause' in the state of Kalifornia apparently means being Mil / LEO.
@GunWebsites Specifically designed to fire blanks only, to be used only by and in production of movies. Secondly, do you consider the limitation to "movie prop companies" to be fair and equitable for rest of the non-Hollywood movie prop and non-Mil / LEO citizenry of CA? I would certainly consider that for the average citizen an NFA restricted state.
Thanks guys been wondering bout this stuff for along time, some of it I don't know why they do it like the SBRs but things like machinguns I do. Sucks we cain't have em in missouri
One thing I did notice is that you said you can mfr a NFA firearm and just pay the tax. But, I did not think that included machine guns. Wouldn't anyone and their brother mfr one then. For example, starting with an AK47 flat, wouldn't that count as mfr a weapon? Or, are you saying weapons that have no existing serial number? I know certain mfr's convert machine guns, but aren't they only transferable if made before 1986? My buddy and I were arguing about this. Thanks! Great vid!
yes after 1986 we can't build new machine guns.. I didn't specify that until later in the video.. if it confusing for other people, I'll make a point of mentioning that in future drafts, thanks
Super greate vid dude! This is one of the best vids. Realy informativ. For people like me ( Who don't read up on stuff and don't live in the US ) this explains alot. loved it. I realy think this will help people.
The map makes missouri look like you can't own NFA items and that is not true. I have everything on your list except a machine gun and all it took was a $30 C&R license and the NFA paperwork. MO is NFA friendly if you can spare the extra $30.
AH. So only cops and military can own the new stuff. Wow. I'm voting for Ron Paul for president. He doesnt want the cops or military owning anything that law abiding citizens can't. Pro-freedom.
@alielbaryeshua That's right. If they can own it we can. IMO, if we aren't as well armed as them, they will take advantage of that situation - and look what is happening right now.
Not true. My Bushmaster M4 costs $1299.99 brand new. But most gun shops and websites want over $10'000.00 just for one with 3 round burst, plus all taxes and fees. Many gun shops are profitting off the NFA and peoples ignorence of the NFA laws.
@GunWebsites Well then. Tell me why a gunshop or dealer would charge me $8700.00 + NFA fees and taxes more, for a rifle that has no greater "material" value than the Bushmaster? The only differance is the fire selector and an extra hole and spring. They function the same, and are made from the same materials. Why the price hike?
@alielbaryeshua More fun, More capability, more flexibility in terms of use, and plus it's literally worth it's weight in gold because it's like a stock value that never goes down unless you changed the law. Do more research.
@alielbaryeshua They are so expensive because there is a fixed number of them. When things are scarce, they become more valuable. They aren't price gouging; these guns are simply worth more money.
Outstanding video, man! Thanks a lot for putting in the obvious effort to make this! It'll definitely help a LOT of people out. Guys are constantly asking questions about this subject, now I can refer them to this video. GREAT JOB, brother!!!
Also, I do have a question myself: If you have a pistol and add stock and a barrel greater than 16", with an overall length greater than 26", would you still have to register it?
great video. It would be cool if you covered some of the weirder and less intuitive aspects of nfa laws such as "a rifle is always a rifle:" even if you remove the stock you have to register it as a SBR if you cut the barrel, or as an alternative, you can get a receiver manufactured as a pistol and not have to pay the SBR tax.
@GunWebsites are you sure? I was considering making an "obrez" from a mosin, and pretty much every site mentioned that if the mosin is registered as a rifle (which all mosin are), you have to register it as an sbr, even if you are going to cut the stock off in the process. Or are you referring to the second part with the pistol reciever?
@GunWebsites to be a bit more specific, if you cut a rifle's stock off, and the overall length becomes less than 26", then you have a "a weapon made from a rifle", not a pistol (even if you go ahead and cut the barrel to a typical pistol length)
So would that mean if you had a pistol with a lower piccitinny rail (Sig P226 for instance), and attached a standard forward grip to it, it's suddenly an AOW weapon?
Thanks for this video. Now I gotta show it to me idiot friends who think new full-auto M4s are sold to civilians just because the Colt website has them listed. rofl
@PhasmatisApparatus lol yeah weapons laws are confusing but civilians do use m4's, and not just police or criminals weapons manufacturers are experts at finding loopholes to get ther products sold so they can make money
It is so lame to hear people like you implying that law abiding citizens who want to enjoy shooting sports are some kind of criminals feeding off a "loophole" ..
Your channel almost looks like you are pro gun rights.. too bad your comments don't back that up
@GunWebsites well website i found said that by July Washington should be able to actually fire suppressors. and that we can own anything but fully automatic,short barreled rifles and shotguns and destructive devices. gay if you ask me. all they want is tax.
This entire thing is so intimidating. I would like a short barrel rifle but, for a hobby, it's simply not worth it to have an AR a few inches shorter. On a more serious side I have a friend with bad juvanile arthrytis and she needs a handgun with a front grip to really be safe. She simply can't hold onto a standard pistol. An AR pistol with a front grip would work but she would have to jump through the hoops. Kinda crazy for what is basically adaptive equipment for a disability in her case
I really don't understand how California is the most firearm unfriendly state. We have CCW, its possible to get AOWs without being a cop and there is no limit to how many long guns you can buy. The only thing that makes us bad is the default no ccw issue in San fran/LA, one pistol a month(other states have this), pistol list(other states also have this, and 10 round mag cap(again other states have this). It can be argued, Illinois and New Jersey are more unfriendly.
@34601k I live in LA County and I am pretty unhappy with the lack of ability to get a CCW and that if I were to buy an AR15 I would have to get the bullet button. I would much rather have Texas' laws.
@cachamelion Would you rather live in Illinois where CCW is illegal? Besides the Bay Area and Metropolitan LA, its not too hard to get CCW in other counties like Humbolt. This is stretching it but my cousin works for the LA district attourney's office as an assistant prosecutor(I think) and she has ccw and it was expedited even. Now you could argue since she prosecutes gangs of course she needs one but she is still a regular citizen. I hate it here too but see the bright side once in awhile.
@34601k I do see the bright side, like the new M1a I just purchased, however I am one of the people who lives in LA County as a law abiding citizen and cannot get a CCW. Your cousin definitely needs one given her job. It is very hard to get a CCW in any major County in California. There is simply no rhyme or reason to the california firearm laws.
so a pistol is ok to conceal but if it has a butt stock to make it more accurate you have to pay tax? and a rifle with a shorter barrel than 16 inches and easier to conceal you also have to pay? so making a pistol harder to conceal and making a rifle with reduced range and accuracy will cost extra. still trying to understand lol
yes, the concept was to disarm the mobsters of the 1920s.. they liked tommy guns, sawed off shotguns and rifles.. so they over-reacted and restricted all those for everyone
So the question is could you ever see some of this being partially repealed? The country seems too miss informed, there for too anti gun for it to happen i think. But it doesn't seem that horrible to allow domestic manufacture and licensed ownership of new auto-fire guns.
Also i think i'd add that the NRA seems to fall short when it comes to supporting these kinds of weapons.
@noahp2191 Unfortunately, the NRA pines to the "sporting uses" rule to the GCA too much to make them effective for stuff like class 3 weapons. And honestly, a lot of NRA clientele don't seem to mind if something is banned or restricted as long as it doesn't affect them. The duck hunter with his over-under doesn't feel the pain I do when they try to ban my pistol magazines, for example. I am in no way implying that duck hunters are bad, by the way.
i see california has some NFA restrictions. Is full auto one of them? i hope not, but i wouldnt be surprised since california isnt very gun friendly. been looking foward to buying a full auto AK.
Fantastic info. As a shooter who is looking into purchasing an NFA item but was unsure of where/how to begin I sincerely thank you for the amount of information presented by you guys.
Excellent video! Great information for those who may want to get into NFA weapons but not exactly sure on how to begin. Would it be at all possible for a follow up video on perhaps the forms involved or a few examples of the process in purchasing say an SBR, suppressor and Class III?
Excellent video. I think videos like these really help people who are unsure about the NFA and what it really entails, get better informed and hopefully involved in gun legislation.
Where did you get that "people's liberty's teeth" quote from? I can't find any confirmation that Washington ever said it. I wish I could, because it would be powerful evidence of the founders' intentions.
Have you ever seen or heard of anyone owning an -explosive- grenade, rocket, missile etc? I have only ever seen people using paint/smoke grenades and the like.
What component parts of machineguns are restricted to pre-1986 registered? i.e. which part(s) of a registered machinegun are irreplaceable?
The Dick Act of 1902 prevents any law from being passed that hinders any male militia age 18-45 to defend his city and state. And have the same guns as the US Army.I repeat, it is the law and if you don't like it, well too bad.This means (and I don't have any if you are thinking that) that anyone can own and use machine guns SBRs rocket launchers etc. without permits. Anyone who is arrested by the BATFE must inform their lawyer about this law and use it against them.
Can you get a class 3 if you had a record prior to age 18.
covenantstreams2 3 weeks ago
Could you have a semi automatic rifle converted, by say a gunsmith, to a selective fire rifle under these laws?
fearmehnoobs 4 weeks ago
@fearmehnoobs
not anymore
GunWebsites 4 weeks ago
How long does it take to get a class 3?
Does it cost anything
MrMaxlikesturtles 1 month ago
If you re register a sawnoff shotgun as an SBS you can bave one. Sweet.
12GAshotgunnersrain 2 months ago
A question about SBR, if someone uses a Mako Collapsible Stock or an ENDO Tactical Stock Adapter on a glock, is it then a SBR and subject to NFA restrictions?
beelikestowatch 3 months ago
@beelikestowatch
yes
GunWebsites 3 months ago
i have a question my cousin is in the military and my uncle is law enforcement they want to own their own new fully automatic machine guns how can they do the process because they are in military and law enforcement
theomen10101 5 months ago in playlist Guns
@theomen10101
good question.. they can't
Military & LEO doesn't mean those people get any special treatment.. it means their departments, or their units are able to posses them, and the members may be issued them to use.. no one owns the NFA item
GunWebsites 5 months ago
NFA weapons are not available in my state.
SuperRip7 5 months ago
From someone who is not a gun enthusiast, I commend you for your very professional and informative presentation. You dispelled some of the myths I had about NFA weapons.
Thank you.
nineball039 6 months ago
@nineball039
Thank you for the feeedback, it's good to hear about a video being productive
GunWebsites 6 months ago
Can I buy full auto lower from a manufacture?
Konflict7993 6 months ago
@Konflict7993
no
GunWebsites 6 months ago
@GunWebsites
Can I buy manufactured full auto lower throw a class 3 dealer then?
Konflict7993 6 months ago
so if i do these things i can own a full auto in california right
evildragon321 7 months ago
your vid said that nfa items are not allowed in missouri, but the batf site said only supressors and destructive devices are restricted. and if they are allowed can aow's be used for a ccw? full auto looks expensive, but would make a great investment. and great vid. the nfa laws get kind of confusing.
phishintube 8 months ago
I know grenades are classified as destructive devices but I've never seen any SOT selling legal NFA grenades. Has anyone before Im simply curious?
ljarmy84 8 months ago
@ljarmy84
sure, you just don't talk to the kind that supply the military or researchers, etc
GunWebsites 8 months ago
@ljarmy84 I'm sure that explosive DD's are probably on the civilian market I've just never seen them, however the big curiousity that has been driving me crazy is, are the controls for them slightly different due to the fact that the items or weapons are explosive? Grenade launchers like M203s are on sale all the time but maybe sometimes I would like to legally use HE rounds in safe non-criminal target practice! Any body know of a place?
ljarmy84 4 months ago
I'd like to offer a distinction about the SBR characteristic of having a "buttstock". I visited a pawn shop displaying what I believe would be classified as a SBR, unfortunately you can't be licensed in Illinois for a Class III firearm. I pointed this out to the owner, he's kind of one of those types who takes it as an affront if you tell him something in his case is illegal. He argued that because it's collapsible, it doesn't count - lol I looked it up and the ATF site says "shoulder fired"
jdmac44 8 months ago
@jdmac44
too bad for him
pawn shops get audited by ATF just as any other FFL, so he'll see what the real definition is at some point
GunWebsites 8 months ago
@GunWebsites I debated whether or not to rat on him, being that I'm not entirely on board with the idea of the NFA laws, but I decided I'd better say something to somebody because the guy who's likely to get in trouble is the unassuming, ill-informed individual who buys it thinking "well if the FFL holder says it's okay..." So I dropped the ATF a note, but I never heard back. I supposed I should have contacted local law enforcement. I don't know if it's still there, I may go back by to check.
jdmac44 8 months ago
@jdmac44
I understand the dilemma, since by doing nothing, you are potentially screwing some dumb buyer..
I suggest you print out the ATF page on definitions of SBR, have the URL right there so he can verify.. and just give the owner the paper
That way you can live with yourself that you tried to do something, but you don't have to think of yourself as some kind of gov. snich
GunWebsites 8 months ago
I have no problem if someone wants to legally own a machine gun, but my thoughts are, whats the point? Usually you are just burning ammo and wasting money. I might be biased because, I prefer accuracy over fire power and I own a bolt action rifle. Hell, most of the time the military/police rarely fires on full auto. I know someone in the Coast Guard that used the M16 with the 3-shot burst and he never used the 3-shot option.
GunsOfThePhoenix 8 months ago
@GunsOfThePhoenix
Well, unlike a car that 'can' drive 100 mph+ .. it's not illegal to go shoot a full auto just for fun
So as hobbys go, it's a lot of fun to own and SHOOT a part of history
GunWebsites 8 months ago
@GunsOfThePhoenix I was in the Marines and throughout boot camp, they emphasized "one shot, one kill" and prohibited us from using the three round burst on our M16A2's. This came as a result of the abject waste of millions of rounds in Vietnam with next to nothing to show for it - lol They wanted to instill the idea that the best shots are well aimed shots. Full auto is for suppressive fire, which may be useful if you're expecting a break down of social order and/or an invasion.
jdmac44 8 months ago
@jdmac44 or to fight back against an opressive government..........
TheAlexagius 8 months ago
NC, SC, MO are NFA friendly (some local restrictions), you can legally own all types of NFA items. NY, CA, RI, DE, DC, HI, IL, IA, MN are ILLEGAL to own any type of NFA item no matter what unless LEO/Military.
drakebenelli2 8 months ago
@drakebenelli2
I suggest you re-research that list we recently did the research on NFA and our results aren't the same as yours
GunWebsites 8 months ago
NFA: noun. An Unconstitutional infringement on the growth of firearms technology.
sownindishonor15 9 months ago 3
Very nice video full of good info. Very helpful.
CoolDudeForLife 9 months ago
look up howdah pistol stock or 1860 shoulder stock attachment.
missourninja 9 months ago
actually they sell a stock for a howdah pistol, at cabelas even.
missourninja 9 months ago
Just a little nitpick but the photo that you posted of the revolver with a stock is a black powder pistol and is not considered a NFA item. sorry lol lots of good info though
missourninja 9 months ago
@missourninja
You might want to consult the laws before you risk your freedom on that
Ever wonder why you don't see any blackpowder short shotguns?
GunWebsites 9 months ago
Quick question: can a legally obtained NFA firearm be carried concealed (such as a Glock 18, or silenced handgun)???
chasedillardark 10 months ago
@chasedillardark
Depends on the state, but here in AZ yes
GunWebsites 10 months ago
@GunWebsites Really? Thats interesting. I'm in AR - I'd like to know what our laws say here. I would personally rather have a subcompact semi-auto anyways, but it would be nice to know.
chasedillardark 10 months ago
@GunWebsites If you rigged an internal hammered double barrel to fire both barrels at once would it be illegal?
THE13EARJEW 9 months ago
@THE13EARJEW
very much so !!
not only illegal to own, but illegal to create so (I'm no lawyer or ATF agent) perhaps double the fine / prison time..
GunWebsites 9 months ago
@GunWebsites Oh. lol I wouldn't do that anyway. I was curious and you would be firing twice the ammunition in twice the time! EXPENSIVE!!
THE13EARJEW 9 months ago
@THE13EARJEW
lol
GunWebsites 9 months ago
For the purposes of your video, concerning NFA items for individuals, not Mil / LEO, California stands as an NFA restricted state. 'Good cause' in the state of Kalifornia apparently means being Mil / LEO.
Korruptor 10 months ago
@Korruptor
What about the movie prop companies?
GunWebsites 10 months ago
@GunWebsites Specifically designed to fire blanks only, to be used only by and in production of movies. Secondly, do you consider the limitation to "movie prop companies" to be fair and equitable for rest of the non-Hollywood movie prop and non-Mil / LEO citizenry of CA? I would certainly consider that for the average citizen an NFA restricted state.
Korruptor 9 months ago
@Korruptor
Don't put words in my mouth.. change your laws if you don't like them.. we did
GunWebsites 9 months ago
my head hurts now
mylstresrt 10 months ago
Thanks guys been wondering bout this stuff for along time, some of it I don't know why they do it like the SBRs but things like machinguns I do. Sucks we cain't have em in missouri
machinegun911 10 months ago
One thing I did notice is that you said you can mfr a NFA firearm and just pay the tax. But, I did not think that included machine guns. Wouldn't anyone and their brother mfr one then. For example, starting with an AK47 flat, wouldn't that count as mfr a weapon? Or, are you saying weapons that have no existing serial number? I know certain mfr's convert machine guns, but aren't they only transferable if made before 1986? My buddy and I were arguing about this. Thanks! Great vid!
chuckyseal 10 months ago
@chuckyseal
yes after 1986 we can't build new machine guns.. I didn't specify that until later in the video.. if it confusing for other people, I'll make a point of mentioning that in future drafts, thanks
GunWebsites 10 months ago
@GunWebsites
Thanks guys! You always have great vids with lots of neat stuff!
chuckyseal 10 months ago
Super greate vid dude! This is one of the best vids. Realy informativ. For people like me ( Who don't read up on stuff and don't live in the US ) this explains alot. loved it. I realy think this will help people.
ZeaMoore4 10 months ago
The map makes missouri look like you can't own NFA items and that is not true. I have everything on your list except a machine gun and all it took was a $30 C&R license and the NFA paperwork. MO is NFA friendly if you can spare the extra $30.
Brandn2551 10 months ago
Great post. You kept it concise but informative at the same time.
suesstech 10 months ago
AH. So only cops and military can own the new stuff. Wow. I'm voting for Ron Paul for president. He doesnt want the cops or military owning anything that law abiding citizens can't. Pro-freedom.
alielbaryeshua 10 months ago 16
@alielbaryeshua That's right. If they can own it we can. IMO, if we aren't as well armed as them, they will take advantage of that situation - and look what is happening right now.
cilcannonvryce 9 months ago
So if I had a ffl and a class 3 just for personal use would I have to pay the tax for every ffl regulated arm
painfull94 10 months ago
@painfull94
that is not legal, the ATF would know you were not in business
non-issue
GunWebsites 10 months ago
Great job, thanks for posting that. The only suggestion I have would be to touch on individual purchase vs an NFA Trust purchase.
AmendmentNo2 10 months ago
@AmendmentNo2
felt it is confusing enough just talking about individuals, perhaps in the future
GunWebsites 10 months ago
Not true. My Bushmaster M4 costs $1299.99 brand new. But most gun shops and websites want over $10'000.00 just for one with 3 round burst, plus all taxes and fees. Many gun shops are profitting off the NFA and peoples ignorence of the NFA laws.
alielbaryeshua 10 months ago
@alielbaryeshua
I don't think you get it
GunWebsites 10 months ago 6
@GunWebsites Well then. Tell me why a gunshop or dealer would charge me $8700.00 + NFA fees and taxes more, for a rifle that has no greater "material" value than the Bushmaster? The only differance is the fire selector and an extra hole and spring. They function the same, and are made from the same materials. Why the price hike?
alielbaryeshua 10 months ago
@alielbaryeshua More fun, More capability, more flexibility in terms of use, and plus it's literally worth it's weight in gold because it's like a stock value that never goes down unless you changed the law. Do more research.
1776PatriotTeen 10 months ago
@alielbaryeshua lol wow u really dont get it
usbadass 10 months ago
@alielbaryeshua They are so expensive because there is a fixed number of them. When things are scarce, they become more valuable. They aren't price gouging; these guns are simply worth more money.
Riflemanm16a2 10 months ago
What is a post sample and pre sample weapons, and can civilians obtain these certain types of weapons
bigbirdhyphy 10 months ago
@bigbirdhyphy
After 1986 (post sample) machine guns can only be built for Military / LEO = individuals can't have / buy
so no, we can't buy any dealer samples
GunWebsites 10 months ago
Awesome video ! For me as a german it was always a little bit different to understand you gunlaws. Now i got it ;) Thank you very much !
mrkevlar 10 months ago
Outstanding video, man! Thanks a lot for putting in the obvious effort to make this! It'll definitely help a LOT of people out. Guys are constantly asking questions about this subject, now I can refer them to this video. GREAT JOB, brother!!!
RetreatHell 10 months ago
@RetreatHell
Thank you
GunWebsites 10 months ago
Wow. Great video. My favorite yet.
stuntmanmike37 10 months ago
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CycloneReaper45 10 months ago
Alot of good info for alot of people.
URBANAMERICANTAC 10 months ago
Buy your saigas n other weapons now before gov outlaws them. Good video
Ghostginthree 10 months ago
what would it cost to convert an existing AR other than the unconstitutional tax stamp
rescue3610 10 months ago
@rescue3610 Convert to what? A machine gun or SBR? Or SBR machine gun?
catdoc541 10 months ago
An AR pistol with a rifle length buffer tube. Is that possibly an unregistered SBR because it could be shouldered?
therealcarbine15 10 months ago
i have learned alot on this NFA issue thanks gunwebsites good vid!
lmglocks 10 months ago
nice video
jmmurdy 10 months ago
I'm almost positive that Illinois should be a full red state on your map. We are no full auto, no SBR, no AoW and no SBS
Dumak2 10 months ago
Why are autos so expensive? I have seen some of the HK autos go for over 10k .
chavezchavez556 10 months ago
@chavezchavez556 Supply and demand. You can no longer buy them new so the supply is frozen (or diminishing) as the demand is increasing.
gboyd242 10 months ago
They better not rule Saiga12 has illegal.
Failcard 10 months ago
Also, I do have a question myself: If you have a pistol and add stock and a barrel greater than 16", with an overall length greater than 26", would you still have to register it?
soapy05 10 months ago
@soapy05
no, you can make a pistol into a rifle
GunWebsites 10 months ago
@GunWebsites Wouldn't owning a pistol and stock that can fit on it be considered constructive possession?
dietrich897 10 months ago
@soapy05 Not according to Federal law
gboyd242 10 months ago
great video. It would be cool if you covered some of the weirder and less intuitive aspects of nfa laws such as "a rifle is always a rifle:" even if you remove the stock you have to register it as a SBR if you cut the barrel, or as an alternative, you can get a receiver manufactured as a pistol and not have to pay the SBR tax.
soapy05 10 months ago
@soapy05
the things you said are not correct
GunWebsites 10 months ago
@GunWebsites are you sure? I was considering making an "obrez" from a mosin, and pretty much every site mentioned that if the mosin is registered as a rifle (which all mosin are), you have to register it as an sbr, even if you are going to cut the stock off in the process. Or are you referring to the second part with the pistol reciever?
soapy05 10 months ago
@GunWebsites to be a bit more specific, if you cut a rifle's stock off, and the overall length becomes less than 26", then you have a "a weapon made from a rifle", not a pistol (even if you go ahead and cut the barrel to a typical pistol length)
soapy05 10 months ago
Nooo why nc why???
gruntpwnsnubz 10 months ago
Thanks Guys. Real Great, Informative Video.
xCirca1980x 10 months ago
Very good video, puts the facts right on the table. This is why you tube is one of the best learning assets of the 21st century.
PizzaAndFirearms 10 months ago
power point presentation?
FatGuyWithAKatana 10 months ago
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MrDucks962 10 months ago
unbelievable California where you have to have a bullet button has restrictions while NJ you cant have anything i have got to get out of this state..
crazyguy705 10 months ago
So would that mean if you had a pistol with a lower piccitinny rail (Sig P226 for instance), and attached a standard forward grip to it, it's suddenly an AOW weapon?
MysterySessions 10 months ago
yup
TheAk47Enthusiast 10 months ago
@MysterySessions Yes. A vertical grip on a pistol makes it an AOW.
killchain187 10 months ago
@MysterySessions
yes
GunWebsites 10 months ago
Great vid! GOD BLESS!
TheDaytonDevil 10 months ago
Excellent vid, we all love firearms, but the education is a nice plus when running through youtube....
jiminwa100 10 months ago
@Alanozitch, so wait, you can own a supressor in WA but not use it???
jiminwa100 10 months ago
@jiminwa100 Yes, but this has just changed--this July we will be able to fire them.
MrM2hb 10 months ago
Thanks for this video. Now I gotta show it to me idiot friends who think new full-auto M4s are sold to civilians just because the Colt website has them listed. rofl
PhasmatisApparatus 10 months ago
@PhasmatisApparatus lol yeah weapons laws are confusing but civilians do use m4's, and not just police or criminals weapons manufacturers are experts at finding loopholes to get ther products sold so they can make money
wepntech 10 months ago
@wepntech
Hate guns much?
It is so lame to hear people like you implying that law abiding citizens who want to enjoy shooting sports are some kind of criminals feeding off a "loophole" ..
Your channel almost looks like you are pro gun rights.. too bad your comments don't back that up
GunWebsites 10 months ago
damn it! Washington is in red. so does that mean we can't own any NFA weapons?
Fordfanforlife777 10 months ago
@Fordfanforlife777
Well, check for yourself to be sure.. this was just our internet research.. let us know what you find out
GunWebsites 10 months ago
@GunWebsites well website i found said that by July Washington should be able to actually fire suppressors. and that we can own anything but fully automatic,short barreled rifles and shotguns and destructive devices. gay if you ask me. all they want is tax.
Fordfanforlife777 10 months ago
@Fordfanforlife777 You can own suppressors,but that is about it.
MrM2hb 10 months ago
Minnesota Suppressors are Illegal as far as i know thats it for MN
assmonkey626 10 months ago
Thank you for this video; it answered many questions I've had for quite some time.
chrisman324 10 months ago
Washington state allows AOWs and supressors (although you're not allowed to use the supressor on a firearm)
Alanozitch 10 months ago
@Alanozitch
yea.. thats why they are considered semi-restricted
GunWebsites 10 months ago
fuck the atf
miacanes5 10 months ago
This entire thing is so intimidating. I would like a short barrel rifle but, for a hobby, it's simply not worth it to have an AR a few inches shorter. On a more serious side I have a friend with bad juvanile arthrytis and she needs a handgun with a front grip to really be safe. She simply can't hold onto a standard pistol. An AR pistol with a front grip would work but she would have to jump through the hoops. Kinda crazy for what is basically adaptive equipment for a disability in her case
shananagans5 10 months ago
@shananagans5
well the difficulty / confusion is what the anti-freedom types thrive on
I urge you to keep at it, while it may seem like a lot on the surface, much of it can be ignored ..
It is basically an extra $200 to SBR a rifle, or to make a pistol into an AOW
Thats less than a laser grip or a quality AR stock when you add it all up..
Sure some extra paperwork and a wait.. once, then it's all in the past
GunWebsites 10 months ago
thx for the informative video. I learned a lot from this.
wdfghjkl 10 months ago
I really don't understand how California is the most firearm unfriendly state. We have CCW, its possible to get AOWs without being a cop and there is no limit to how many long guns you can buy. The only thing that makes us bad is the default no ccw issue in San fran/LA, one pistol a month(other states have this), pistol list(other states also have this, and 10 round mag cap(again other states have this). It can be argued, Illinois and New Jersey are more unfriendly.
34601k 10 months ago
@34601k I live in LA County and I am pretty unhappy with the lack of ability to get a CCW and that if I were to buy an AR15 I would have to get the bullet button. I would much rather have Texas' laws.
cachamelion 10 months ago
@cachamelion Would you rather live in Illinois where CCW is illegal? Besides the Bay Area and Metropolitan LA, its not too hard to get CCW in other counties like Humbolt. This is stretching it but my cousin works for the LA district attourney's office as an assistant prosecutor(I think) and she has ccw and it was expedited even. Now you could argue since she prosecutes gangs of course she needs one but she is still a regular citizen. I hate it here too but see the bright side once in awhile.
34601k 10 months ago
@34601k I do see the bright side, like the new M1a I just purchased, however I am one of the people who lives in LA County as a law abiding citizen and cannot get a CCW. Your cousin definitely needs one given her job. It is very hard to get a CCW in any major County in California. There is simply no rhyme or reason to the california firearm laws.
cachamelion 10 months ago
@34601k
I don't think there is an argument.. IL and NY are the worst, followed closely by CA, WI, NJ and a few others
GunWebsites 10 months ago
so a pistol is ok to conceal but if it has a butt stock to make it more accurate you have to pay tax? and a rifle with a shorter barrel than 16 inches and easier to conceal you also have to pay? so making a pistol harder to conceal and making a rifle with reduced range and accuracy will cost extra. still trying to understand lol
OunSlaught1 10 months ago
@OunSlaught1
yes, the concept was to disarm the mobsters of the 1920s.. they liked tommy guns, sawed off shotguns and rifles.. so they over-reacted and restricted all those for everyone
GunWebsites 10 months ago
@GunWebsites
So the question is could you ever see some of this being partially repealed? The country seems too miss informed, there for too anti gun for it to happen i think. But it doesn't seem that horrible to allow domestic manufacture and licensed ownership of new auto-fire guns.
Also i think i'd add that the NRA seems to fall short when it comes to supporting these kinds of weapons.
noahp2191 10 months ago
@noahp2191
I sure hope so. I would enjoy a lot more full auto trigger time
And what a great way to boost the economy, new guns, ammo, ranges, etc
I hope with more information, more education, more light on stupid, ineffective laws, and we could see the repeal of the useless ones
Look how well CCW rights have come int he last few years.. Lower crime rates, etc continue to back up these positive strides
GunWebsites 10 months ago
@noahp2191 Unfortunately, the NRA pines to the "sporting uses" rule to the GCA too much to make them effective for stuff like class 3 weapons. And honestly, a lot of NRA clientele don't seem to mind if something is banned or restricted as long as it doesn't affect them. The duck hunter with his over-under doesn't feel the pain I do when they try to ban my pistol magazines, for example. I am in no way implying that duck hunters are bad, by the way.
killchain187 10 months ago
Great video, very informative. Thanks!
thegreatODEN1 10 months ago
so GW, where does ballistic knives fall into this?
MFG666EmOTP 10 months ago
@MFG666EmOTP
they are AOW
GunWebsites 10 months ago
Nice video to have in your inventory. :)
ArtisanTony 10 months ago
Answered soo many questions.
SPARTAN23123xS23x 10 months ago
Wow a
SPARTAN23123xS23x 10 months ago
Excellent video, G-Webs!
Hiluxtaco 10 months ago
So the surbu super shorty is a aow? Only a $5 tax stamp?
bubba102893 10 months ago
@bubba102893
yes
GunWebsites 10 months ago
i see california has some NFA restrictions. Is full auto one of them? i hope not, but i wouldnt be surprised since california isnt very gun friendly. been looking foward to buying a full auto AK.
14EspanaNS88 10 months ago
Fantastic info. As a shooter who is looking into purchasing an NFA item but was unsure of where/how to begin I sincerely thank you for the amount of information presented by you guys.
Keep on rockin'
k4ylr 10 months ago
Great video guys!!!!!
glynn72 10 months ago
Man, so many cool things that we cant have here in Komrade-fornia. =( Must escape this wretched state!
GadgetsNGear 10 months ago
Excellent video! Great information for those who may want to get into NFA weapons but not exactly sure on how to begin. Would it be at all possible for a follow up video on perhaps the forms involved or a few examples of the process in purchasing say an SBR, suppressor and Class III?
k4ylr 10 months ago
Excellent video. I think videos like these really help people who are unsure about the NFA and what it really entails, get better informed and hopefully involved in gun legislation.
k4ylr 10 months ago
NFA means alleged.
derekgrebner87 10 months ago
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@willmarano2 are you a cop or did you serve
cheeseshoes 10 months ago
@willmarano2 are you a cop or did you serve
cheeseshoes 10 months ago
Great info!
ristin59 10 months ago
Excellent video.
biguy525 10 months ago
Makes me to laugh to think that a dirty .22 that goes into burst fire is considered a machine gun.
hoshnasi 10 months ago
If you buy a full auto SBR, do you have to pay the tax twice? So, if it were a short barreled AR with M203, you'd pay the tax thrice?
TheEnglishRedneck45 10 months ago
@TheEnglishRedneck45 Full-auto weapons are not subject to any other regulation, so a sbr full auto is only a single tax-stamp.
The m203 is a different nfa stamp in it's self.
Jakerem870tac 10 months ago
Where did you get that "people's liberty's teeth" quote from? I can't find any confirmation that Washington ever said it. I wish I could, because it would be powerful evidence of the founders' intentions.
TheMotorick 10 months ago
Hey your map is out dated. Missouri is not NFA restricted anymore.
jokerman213 10 months ago
Thanks for the good explanation, much appreciated. Take care and have good one.
ewtoutdoors 10 months ago
i think missouri is no longer a no nfa state.
fire1777 10 months ago
Lots of good info. Thanks !
splinterman9 10 months ago
Couple of questions:
Have you ever seen or heard of anyone owning an -explosive- grenade, rocket, missile etc? I have only ever seen people using paint/smoke grenades and the like.
What component parts of machineguns are restricted to pre-1986 registered? i.e. which part(s) of a registered machinegun are irreplaceable?
An0nEeMouse 10 months ago
@An0nEeMouse
not many people are willing to spend the cash to buy grenades ..
AFAIK all guns are serialed on their receivers, so that is the gun
GunWebsites 10 months ago
Interesting, and sad.
Thanks for posting this info
masivatak 10 months ago
The Dick Act of 1902 prevents any law from being passed that hinders any male militia age 18-45 to defend his city and state. And have the same guns as the US Army.I repeat, it is the law and if you don't like it, well too bad.This means (and I don't have any if you are thinking that) that anyone can own and use machine guns SBRs rocket launchers etc. without permits. Anyone who is arrested by the BATFE must inform their lawyer about this law and use it against them.
glennwih 10 months ago
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glennwih 10 months ago
NFA is illegal and any agency who enforces it is unconstitutional.
glennwih 10 months ago
did you randomly eject a spent shell at 09:58? :D
Very informative video, thanks for uploading it.
madox86 10 months ago
This need's to be a website somewhere...
keylitho 10 months ago
This vid is very informative. Thanks for the post!
seanxvw 10 months ago
My heart was crushed when I saw the red on North Carolina and South Carolina..
itachi1303 10 months ago
@itachi1303
maybe we are wrong, look it up to be sure.. if we were right.. change the laws
GunWebsites 10 months ago