Baby killing And Possible origin of the 6 mil figure

[Norphax]

You have to be careful. If you say 5,999,999 Jews died you're a holocaust denier. but if it's 6,000,000+ you're ok.

[mrtommynazi]

Great research on the origins of the HOLOCAUST LEGEND. There was aslo some writing in 1919 in a jewish pulication mentioning the HOLOCAUST of starving German jews after the first war in a bid to secure additional aid from America for that one group.

[ReignFearless]

this tidy six to a power and the number 6 in geneal seems to figure prominantly in jewish mythology and consciousness they also said exactly six million were dying in world war one as well lol In their mythology jews said 600,000 departed for the promised land. they also said 600,000 were firstly expelled by Hitler then the remaining 6,000,000 were killed. cant just cant get enough six

[logicaust]

This will likely be the subject of a future video. Not to do with the Holocaust, but beliefs.

In any case, while I respect that you're making these, I don't believe the evidence presented can be *completely* taken at face value (though the testimony bit angered me)

In regards to revisionism: on one hand, true: not *all* victims are accounted for; but such is the nature of war. But I don't discount the majority opinion. I wouldn't call someone wacky for disputing numbers, nor necessarily agree.

[baconeater]

I suggest Googling "60 minutes Holocaust archives" and giving it a watch.

[rekeltje]

Most holocaust deniers are neo-nazi's, now isn't that odd!

[ReignFearless]

100 percent of racist jewish supremacist terrorists, the stern gang, kahane, irv rubin etc are holocaust believers. now isnt that odd!

[BeyondWrittenWords]

Preatty disturbing.

[alasdair0j]

is VirtualHolocaust a holocaust denier?

[VirtualHolocaust]

depends on your definition i suppose. more after the truth of it all. and to try and make a point that there are so many people here with knee jerk reactions to what they did. but no one gives a shit about darfur.

[Ape65]

Although some of the details may be questionable, it's clear the Nazis tried to exterminate the Jews and succeeded in killing 90% of those living in the territories that came under Nazi control. the Nazi extermination system evolved over time and was at its most efficient near the very end. As an example, Google what happened to the Hungarian and Romanian Jews near the end of the war.

[NiklasKing87]

wow that guy has a creepy voice.

[sourcemaster]

rofl, he does

[shalylol]

I'm just sick of the Jews getting ALL of the attention for WW2 casualties. 73 million died, the Jews were just a small part of that. You never hear any sympathy for the 20 million Chinese that died.

[ShadowSandy]

Now that is a statement I can concur with. My father's family are hungarian, moving to america wasn't for the fun of it.

[AbnormisSapiens]

Yes you do, in Asia it's a very broad topic.

But I agree with you nevertheless.

[Kuba022]

You used to post good videos...

[VirtualHolocaust]

you mean cookie cutter i hate christians videos?

[Kuba022]

I mean your videos about gun control, illegal immigration, corporations, e-begging, politics and other topics. Religion too, yes, but I don't think they were "cookie cutter" videos.

"Stop trying to package and sell atheism" was a good video raising some great points, but after that I didn't see much of a decent material from you. And recently it seems like you are loosing your grip on reality.

[5spoonfest5]

3 star?

[abortabraham]

my virgin ears! look at my feigned fucking outrage! grrrr how could you say these horrible things you nasty nasty man! At the very least, this dialogue is a joke. Is there anyone on youtube that has historian credentials? Is there anyone within reach that will actually sit down and parse this stuff or do we have to sit through another 5 years of bullshit "THIS IS AN OUTRAGE" ad hominem attacks before anyone says enough is enough? This is what youtube is for, go watch Fred if you're such a pussy.

[DrOman5596]

Really VH? Really? This propaganda video is enough to make you discount the holocaust?

*unsubscribed

[VirtualHolocaust]

good

[elitemathlete]

Why would you post this disgusting propaganda?

Its all circumstantial evidence.

Dont you holocaust deniers have anything better to show us? Fucking sick.

[VirtualHolocaust]

oh well you could always fuck off and not watch my videos?

[TheAngryCanuck]

Getting into the logistics is so overwhelmingly easy.. its just.. there's so much ground to cover.. so many things that make it impossible.

Ok. If 80,000 bodies are confirmed burried at sorbibor, by an eye whitness who claims to have burried the bodies himself, then why wont they let researchers do a sample?

We all know the reason why.

[cehbeach]

Really. I guess with your logic then the logistical capability of one nation to be able to take over Europe and push back the Soviet Union to the gates of Moscow should also be impossible. wait! That's it! WWII never happened! It's all a lie! Wake up people! I'm pretty sure your expertise on logistics is on the same par as your expertise on, well, anything else. IOW , 'nonexistent'.

[elitemathlete]

I dont think this video was made by jews, you bigot.

[VirtualHolocaust]

robert dont be a stupid fuck if you are racist one more time on my channel i will seriously block you. its fucking retarded.

[Blackliam]

See the problem VH is that you're giving credence to complete fucking morons...

Anyways I'm done with this bullshit discussion lacking in proper research. This is the last time you'll hear from me on this topic

peace

[VirtualHolocaust]

peace

[Blackliam]

That video had very little credibility. The guy's talk about "liars" is evidence enough that he's twisting the truth.

Even if he's not, it's not inconceivable for the numbers to be known at that time. The Nazis kept records of all the prisoners.

As for the gas chambers you don't believe in (which killed trainloads of people for years), they still exist!

The Holocaust was very, very, very bad. And worse has happened on this planet.

But for some reason you just refuse to believe it...

[VirtualHolocaust]

well i know what the rehershed lines are. that isnt what im after.

[Blackliam]

ugh...

[TheNeocatZone]

Okay, Virtual, maybe we relied on bad sources for the numbers, maybe gas chambers did not play as big a role, maybe the whole event simply became darker in the survivors' memories than it was in reality. Some of us just want to know that YOU DON'T condone slaughter on ANY scale and I don't think you do. So calm down!

[VirtualHolocaust]

i think thats a given. im just after truth is all its not out of hatred. i just hate it when people are willing to take other peoples rights away.

[TheNeocatZone]

Well the people making comments talking like they want to shut you up, they're simply taking their anger to an extreme. People like me, we may disagree with you on the details, but we don't wanna take your rights away! And since you don't condone what the Nazis did, there's not much of an argument between you and me in particular anyways.

[a2tis]

i didn't expect VH to be this naive...

[RobertBruceBanner]

You're the naive one for believing the holohoax.

[elitemathlete]

RobertBruceBanner,

Dont let youre raving bigotry get in the way of the facts and evidence. Can't you seperate your jew hatred from the historical events of the holocaust?

Follow your leader and off yourself.

[a2tis]

the video states that the estimated number could not have been known at the time. well, it was an estimate. they calculated an estimate, and according to various later estimates it was to some degree inaccurate. simply saying they could not have known it at the time does not prove they couldn't estimate it.

even if 1 or 2 guys lied about the exact number this does not make thousands other liars.

[VirtualHolocaust]

ok so the exact same number doesnt seem odd to you?

[a2tis]

1. it's not the exact same number. there were many different estimates. 6 million sounds impressive so it's not odd many people caught on.

2. something being "odd" is one of the stupidest arguments in trying to prove something, it's usually used when there are no real arguments.

3. holocaust happened if there was only 1 million dead (irrespective of the way they died - as long as it was systematic extermination). don't you agree? do you guys own the definition of what holocaust or genocide is?

[VirtualHolocaust]

i dont think typhus is a systematic killer of one group of people. and i dont think there was really a great plan to it all. i think they used them as slaves didnt feed them right and killed them when they wouldnt submit. but i think the most important thing is that we look at all the atrocities that occured during that time. not just theirs

[ElliotWoolf]

"Holocaust Hoax"? WTF is this bullshit? When will this poison stop. You people are sick and have serious issues to believe this.

[RobertBruceBanner]

It's the biggest hoax of the 20th century.

[Blackliam]

I thought people were better than this but I have been sorely disappointed

[VirtualHolocaust]

poison? how?

[ElliotWoolf]

Because denying the Holocaust and making propaganda videos like this is spreading poisonous lies. It's disgusting. Maybe the figures aren't 100% right but they are close enough - the things that happened to those people in those camps should never be forgotten.

[VirtualHolocaust]

the idea of camps for particular individuals of a certain race or religion should never be forgot. but that isnt the thing thats being told. because we had concentration camps for the japanese. so does that mean its ok because it wasnt jewish people? because that is the issue it has been made into. its been made into an issue that only they suffered. the japanese people in my country had everything they owned taken from them and thrown into camps.

[ElliotWoolf]

Dude, I see your point but why not research and document the Japanese concentration camps? Make videos about them. Yes, the Jews weren't the only ones to suffer but to try and discredit well documented evidence of the holocaust because 'Jews are getting all the attention' is totally wrong.

[Zaimoren]

The video mentions knowledge that someone had about the number of people killed in europe. It states the date of March, 1945 and asserts that at this time it wouldn't be possible for this person to knows these things. However, reports about the camps were given to american consulates in 1942. Quite a bit of knowledge could have been gathered in that time. Camps first appear in 1933.

Holocaust deniers tend to use the "ahh, but looky here, ain't this odd" approach.

[VirtualHolocaust]

thanks for the input actually someone adding something

[TheAngryCanuck]

"However, reports about the camps were given to american consulates in 1942. Quite a bit of knowledge could have been gathered in that time."

Nice try.

There is no way they would have had a 6 million number just from having info on camps. Also explain the same number in Readers Digest 1943 before Aschwitz was even built.

google Episode 9: Reader's Digest

[Zaimoren]

1940 was the year that Auschwitz construction began. There was gassing of prisoners in that camp as early as 1941. Auschwitz II was completed in the first part of the year in 1942 and this was the largest part of the operation.

As for reference you gave, I've seen other vids that man's made and found problems with those as well. I've seen his claims and I can't see how they can be used to say the whole holocaust did not happen.

[Zaimoren]

Sorry, these responses were to TheAngryCanuck

It was very likely that the nazi's knew exactly how many people were in ghettos and in camps. Registrations for Jews in german occupied territories started before the foundation for the first camp was ever laid. I don't understand how you feel these numbers couldn't be known by others.

[Zaimoren]

Hecht, Ben, Reader's Digest, Remember Us, February, 1943

"Of these 6,000,000 Jews [of Europe], almost a third have already been massacred by Germans, Rumanians and Hungarians, and the most conservative of scorekeepers estimate that before the war ends at least another third will have been done to death"

[andrewrberkshire]

You find this convincing? Did you find loos change convincing too?

[VirtualHolocaust]

loose change for the most part was bullshit i do believe at the very least the government was highly negligent. but thats for the attack of my credibility. figure out how to use your camera genius and make a video response.

[andrewrberkshire]

I will as soon as I can figure it out.

[mindprism]

Yup, and its this ghastly ideology thats going to slowly rot humanity to the core -- that is, if it doesn't rip us to shreds first.

[theVAGINAtheist]

VirtualHolocaust denier.

[TheBigHo111]

VH - Is it the numbers that are in dispute? Or are you saying the holocaust did not happen at all?

[VirtualHolocaust]

the gas chambers that whole bit is that what you consider to be the holocaust?

[TheBigHo111]

I consider the massive loss of life as a holocaust. The action used is of no concern to me really, but the final result (death) is.

Is it the numbers that you are questioning or the event (mass death) in and of itself that is in question?

[TheBigHo111]

I got a thumb down for asking a question??? LOL :)

[RobertBruceBanner]

Can't you see it's all made up?

[Blackliam]

it's ALL made up? come on.

[VirtualHolocaust]

well its the numbers and the gas chambers and diesel chambers and electric floors ever herd about the ones that claimed they had electric floors

[TheAngryCanuck]

The Holocaust (from the Greek ὁλόκαυστον (holókauston): holos, "whole" and kaustos, "burnt"), is the term generally used to describe the genocide of approximately six million European Jews during World War II, a program of systematic state-sponsored extermination by Nazi Germany.

The main method would be gassing to kill this many so quickly.

Also the actions used mean everything. If they starved or got disease, they were not systematically killed.

[VirtualHolocaust]

i dunno starved might count wouldnt it?