Agree also with the memory. I remember where people live and have lived, their career path, who they like etc. etc..(very good memory actually)..but then its, "What was your name again?" Pretty sad.
People think you don't care about them if you don't remember their name even though you remember them as a specific, unique individual person.
@Karch101 Indeed. People try to create meaning for life by inventing all sorts of things- when in reality we must look into ourselves for that. I feel like society is at a point of serious growing pains. We now have almost all the abundance we could need, because of the massive advances in technology in recent years, and we're at an awkward time in which the next step isn't as clear as it always has been (produce more food, stop injustice, develop government etc.)
Totally agree with the memory thing. Thought I was alone. I forget peoples names, places, movies etc., but am energized whenever a deeper, more relate-able topic emerges.
I'm 16 right now and for the first time in my life i've discovered why I was so different from everybody else. Since i was 8 I always thought of my self and my way of thinking as superior to everyone else. I've never been social really and I find it hard to be bothered with caring about what other people like. My personality type is INTJ.
@Karch101 Not really, my social life is ok. Sadly I grew up in a place were the only thing that interests people is TV shows and Sports. I like science, math and physics.
Insatiable curiosity. I remember once telling a friend if I was dropped into a large square I would immediately run to the fence and shake it saying "let me outta here!".
No matter how many miles wide the inside would be, I would always HAVE to explore the OUTSIDE. My friend said why couldn't I just stay and make the best of what was inside the square. I don't know. Just a strong urge to get out and see what is out there. Like I couldn't or wouldn't survive otherwise. Ah, INTP...
Holy crap this video made me feel so much better.. I'm not alone. INTPs are such a small group of people, but I'm glad SOMEONE out there understands..
This is pretty much spot on for me. Every part of it.
HOLY SHIT! when you mentioned that you like to test social boundaries, I did not realise that that may have been a INTP trait. Sometimes if I find myself in a good mood, at ease with close friends, Ill shout out "NIGGER!" or other profanities just for some hard to describe rebel that just doesn't give a fuck.
@MarcadamiaNut yea, i see what you're saying. A lot of word prohibitions are stupid in my opinion but you have to remember that we do live in a world where people take them seriously.
@boliussa I am a child but I think I'm pretty mature for my age. It's not as if I go around doing this all the time, it's just sometimes I like to test society and its boundaries and if you can't understand that then it's no skin off my nose.
It can be a sensible thing to do, the idea of testing the boundaries. When you get a bit older though, you wouldn't be doing that particular test! it's still something only somebody very immature(relative to an adult) would do. It's easy to be mature for your age in school 'cos you're surrounded by the most incredible unbearable immaturity.
@ImN3X good question. I don't believe in fulfillment. I believe that happiness is a temporary condition that you have when stimulated. I believe that some people are naturally more positive than negative and it's proven that there's a link between cheerfulness and genes. I do however believe that we, u and i, are naturally harder to make happy so we experience it less frequently. As far as fulfillment or lasting happiness is concerned, no, because feelings fluctuate.
In terms of social rebellion, I'm right on the same page with you. Because I don't understand a lot of the logic (or lack thereof) behind social norms and traditions and things like that, I tend to challenge them, and thusly isolate myself even further from society. And I agree that INTPs have a hard time empathizing. I took an online empathy test and scored lower than most autistic people.
@gnifemaul yea, i feel you with the isolation. I don't care to be around people anymore. I talk to one of my friends on the phone and another on the computer, that's it. There is no logic to many of the social norms and many of them hinder instead of help lead a pleasurable life. I don't really understand what's so great about people. How people can look up to people or be really amused by people, or enthralled even. To me everything is ordinary and perhaps you agree.
I don't think INTPs lack empathy at all. respectably, I think its an injustice to say that. I think the matter is more that we don't focus on empathy and often tend to over look it. I definitely agree that it is a trap though.
@Gregorouse I notice in myself that when someone is suffering i am compelled to help them but the feeling itself in my body isn't strong, the emotion. someone of another type will look at someone suffering and perhaps cry of suffer themselves. I don't in any strong way. that's what i mean.
As far as memory INTPs tend to get a "hook" on what is interesting to us. We remember well the details of the things that we have interest in, but if we don't have interest we don't have the "hook" and could care less for the details. it really varies by what we like or don't like to remember.
I actually do enjoy pop culture, but probably not in the same sense that you mean. Instead, I utilize movies, cartoons, and song lyrics to make jokes about what is happening (I'm apparently 20 years behind in my references though). Luckily, the people that I associate with know these references and can easily identify what I am talking about, so I rarely, if ever, fall into that first trap. The other few... that's a little different. However, cynicism is a bittersweet treat in my opinion.
@TheNixolas i agree about cynicism. I made it a point to be positive for a while, and i was, but negativity and cynicism are much more comfortable for me. I also enjoy it when other people are cynical and even negative. I think different things work for different people and there isn't anything objectively bad about being negative and cynical. I look around and i see life is shit and smile. That's how i roll.
INTP female here, I relate to everything you're saying which is really different for me. I usually feel so lost and different then everyone else which I guess us INTPs are. But it's good to know we are out there. I hope I can meet some INTPs in the future seems everyone is an ESFJ or something.
Im an INTP, and im not interested in pop culture too, and i can really relate to what you say. I am a very cynical person, I am a social awkward person and i don't really like going to parties, I feel like people dont understand me, but i get along well with people who i can have an intellectual conversation with, but i still put up this wall, pretending that im happy and sometimes crazy person so that people do not know about my depression or loneliness. Thank you a lot for making this video :)
@33niewiem33 yw. it can be an unfortunate situation finding yourself in this world and not being able to relate to almost anyone or anyone period. As time goes by you get used to being alone in my experience. It doesnt have to stop you from trying to relate to people though. I used to study people to see why they were enjoying eachother's company. Now i atleast understand people better and can contribute into a conversation if i wanted to. If you haven't tried that you could.
@christian5327 Incorrect logic, my friend. To say that these "traps" are solely based on intelligence is an absurd miscalculation. I think of them as simply an alternative point of view. I personally consider conformity as a true trap. The WAY in which we are different may correlate positively with intelligence. But the existence of difference does not necessarily imply low intelligence. The smart people are different in a better way. the dumb people are different in a worse way.
@CuriousGeorjay If you look on his channel he's just going to different people's vlogs and saying rude things to them. He may not actually even believe what he says. Not worth your time.
@Karch101 This is so flawed. You hedge your words like an insecure girl. If you have an issue with my statements then I suggest that you craft a good paragraph and send it to me for critique. Also, try your best to use proper grammar and Standard English. I know that composition was not your best subject in high school so I standby patiently awaiting your response.
@christian5327 hey, i looked at your profile and i see that you just like to say mean things to people. so, say what you will, do what you want. i don't care. i hope it's doing something for you.
@CuriousGeorjay You need to read more carefully. You are ASSUMING that my statement applies to trap creation. Traps can be constructed from all sorts of materials including physical, emotional and psychological dimensions. My statement was geared towards trap AVOIDANCE. Obviously, the presumption is that people of average intelligence are the candidates that these traps target. Traps by their very nature target entities in the middle of the spectrum. Otherwise, trap creation would be time wasted
@kris48267 i used to think that, the thing is if you learn how to fit in and understand all types of people. (ie, if you get into an argument with a feeler, try to understand why they are reacting in a certain way, learn exactly what to say to them to make them feel understood/appreciated, then and only then will you get them to help out your cause) rebellion gets you know where on your own. you need an army. Play smart and INTP has the characteristics to succeed big time
As a 25+ year old INTP I have fallen into all of the above traps (except social rebellion never fully manifested itself in the material world) but I have overcome them all except being socially distant. I still feel that I have important work to do that requires my time and energy, not much is left for actively pursuing social relationships.
@ncaerulea it all depends on if you want social relationships or not. if not that's cool too. I like talking to people when i'm at work or at school. If i'm not at either of those places i like being by myself. thats just me.
Yeah, I've fallen into the exact same traps you did but I'm working hard this academic year to climb out of them. For several months I had a strong superiority complex and noticed that it was actually more fun to let loose sometimes, talking about mundane topics to other people rather than just rigidly sticking to the deeper/intellectual ones. Basically, it was just a matter of learning how to socialise with the general populous again. :)
As an INTP, I can definitely relate to the social rebellion that you speak of. For example, I never bother to follow social etiquette rules because they're just plain stupid. However, I don't really see it as a trap or a bad thing. You said it's bad because it makes it hard to assimilate yourself. Frankly, I couldn't care less about assimilating myself. I quite enjoy being an outcast.
@PockASqueeno look at it logically, follow the rules and use them to your advantage. lots of people are impressed by posh branded watches, thats why i wear them. seems shallow to me but im winning. Follow social etiquette rules, what a simple way to gain status and acceptance. Feels like im cheating.....surely to disregard those otherwise pointless rules is counter productive for ones self?
@PockASqueeno Well, it depends if you care about attracting hot women, promotions, more money etc. In my opinion status is essential for all these things
@mrmrhollingsworth Well, I already have a woman who doesn't really care about my status. The women who do are usually superficial and not worth being with. As for promotions and money, I suppose it depends on the job.
I'm a ENTJ with a soft E and J. I do especially poorly with Feelers. Nobody gets on my nerves more and I'm certainly not popular with them either. I'm "mean". It really gets on my nerves how they act like they are so caring of others, but they are sometimes more interests in their own needs than others, but then call it selfish when you don't comply. I am not uncaring, I just don't make decisions based on how it will effect 1 person (them). I consider the whole, including myself, of course.
@DiaShanti yea. thing is, we see the world through our own eyes and it can be difficult to understand where people are coming from. people who are emotional have intense feelings within their chest and stomachs and such that are affected by people's words and actions. we don't have that. so it can be difficult to understand.
@Karch101 I'm a Thinker who has somewhat of a Feeling developed side. I can see when I've hurt their feelings, but do feel annoyed they are taking something personal which I may view as irrelevant to feelings. Take for example my preference to live in the tropics over the dessert. This was taken by a Feeler who lives in the arid climate of the South West of Arizona as a personal attack. We even had an arguement about it and he said I was not being fair to Arizona to call it a dessert!
I would consider myself as an INTP/INFP hybrid. I am very focused on abstract concepts, and love discussing various ideas but at the same time, I am quite empathetic. I can connect with others.
Hi, I'm ENTJ with soft E and J... (so I can basically switch between ENTJ, INTJ, ENTP and of course INTP).
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You nailed it so well... I used to to do all off them, but then I would become even more shunned... so that would make it much worse...
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Thank you for making this video.
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I'm also happy to see that you try to assimilate into society... Us Rationals (xNTx types) really need to learn to life in a Sensor populated society...
yw man. All you have to do is study people and then practice. I wanted approval, i'm not gunna lie. and i get it now, a lot of it. it's all from practice and observation.
I don't regard social distance when in trivial discussions as a "trap." I'm genuinely not interested in that stuff, and trying to get engaged in that feels like emotional drudgery. Re. being negative and cynical, and having a sense of superiority, I agree. That is a trap. These are not healthful emotions for myself. I still want to engage with others. The problem has been how to relate to them somehow. I hear studying anthropology helps. Haven't dressed funny to test boundaries.
i am an intp...and i think you can make most of being an intp is by accepting who you are...but an intp should try to be a bit more social and a 'bit' humble...otherwise they are cool guys
so ur saying that in a few years ill stop when my neighbor is watering his plants to tell him how i feel about the weather?? and after that to walk away not thinking of the seconds ill never get back ?? oww dear puberty will hit me hard!! :)
@2Garyable The thing about life, is you have to make your own fun. you could ask your neighbor about the weather in an unconventional way or say something completely different. it's your voice and your body. you can do what you want with it.
@intj333 yea but i think it's even simpler than that. It's a matter of what you want out of life. I wanted to be capable of being social and confident so i worked on it. Got help working on it and achieved my goals. It's about peace and feelings. If something ruins your peace than that should be one of the top priorities in my opinion. It changes though. When i became social i realized i didn't enjoy it as much as i thought i would. Nothing has to be accepted as a handicap though.
I definately can relate to all of this. I'm a fifteen year old INTP female which can be very difficult, in that there's a lack of social acceptance which causes negativity, sarcastic responses, thinking very cynically... Part of the acceptance is that I tend to be naturally distant so I envy others which brings out a harshness that pushes me even farther away.
I identify with all your points... except when you say social rebellion, your example is far removed from my own. That made me think of how I've always been rebellious about authority, and have a very hard time being told what to do.. especially when (and is usually the case) I can't help but view the other person as having less intelligence... This causes me problems in my jobs.. it caused problems back in school... etc.
And that stuff about jumping on the train sounds like typical teenage stuff, not necessarily INTP. The INTP rebelliouness is against social pressures or conventions, like me being a girl and not interested in acting in a way to make myself attractive, or...not focusing on building a career, and instead settling for just learning bits and pieces of stuff.
Or...not caring about having a "cool" car or God knows what all the other heathens go for.
@NightinGal89 i agree. the train stuff however was to achieve more social freedom as opposed to just horsing around. I do think though that INTPs typically exhibit these traits and social difficulties. I'm not a myers briggs expert but i've found a body of people who struggle with similar issues so i say INTP. it seems that i'm right that a lot of INTPs struggle with these things judging by the success of the video. It's more to help than anything else, show people they're not alone.
'not focusing on building a career, and instead settling for just learning bits and pieces of stuff.'
i'm half heartedly trying to get into the career thing atm, but honestly i don't give a fuck. My ideal job would be one where I could just get paid for sitting around reading and drinking coffee, haven't worked out how to get paid for this yet..
I don't think the stuff you talked about is strictly INTP. I am an INTP, as well, but do remember movie quotes, if I can relate to them, or if I find them humorous/philosophical. Such as "you look like a man who accepts what he sees, because he is expecting to wake up." That's from Matrix. lol.
hm, I was hoping you have advice for avoiding these traps :P
I don't know how to approach people. Building relationships is a mystery to me. I'm distant, but it's not always because I want to be distant, I mean sometimes I distance myself on purpose because I'm interested in interacting with superficial people, but sometimes I'm distant simply because I don't know how to approach others.
@hasenj i think i understand where you're coming from. If you want this to change i would start by writing your thoughts down on a pad that you carry with you. This can help you identify what you want. There's a lot in my videos that i didnt say. between this video and now i've experienced a lot of growth from work with groups, therapy and self analysis. The pad can help with the self analysis. The first thing you have to do is identify your fears and do what you fear
@hasenj Keep challenging yourself and you'll grow. i live in NYC so i used to use the train as my stage sort of. I would talk to people, dance, cause little odd scenes, just to get over my fear of disapproval and judgement. You don't have to start there if you dont want to but getting used to disapproval is definitely a step in the right direction. getting used to disapproval and also realizing that it takes a lot more to get disapproval than you may think. sometimes you get approval.
@hasenj that's awesome, i never heard of that before. but thats basically it. it's a matter of doing the things you fear even though you fear them. at the beginning your body may freeze up and you might have mental barriers that are too strong but eventually you'll be able to do what you fear and then you can fear less and less. you do have to be your own therapist most of the time just because no one is with you. its a matter of putting your energy in that direction, taking it seriously.
Now I understand why I connected so solidly with the underground punk rock movement! It's crazy that there are actually people that I can relate to now. I always felt so isolated. I've been able to connect with people by forcing to make small talk, and this has helped out greatly with my attitude and how I view others in the world. I feel though as part of my assimilation process that I've somehow gotten dumber. You know how it is.
1) you are basically me, and it's strange but it interests me
2) I wouldn't necessarily call these 'traps', because they're just traits of an INTP, as unfortunate as it is, they're defiantly not traps, otherwise we wouldn't exactly be INTP's.
3) However socially stooooopid we are, I really love the fact that I finally know I'm not an actual anomaly of the human race, and that other INTP's are just the coolest people evaaaa, bitches!
you arent cynical. your type is one of the best to talk to!!! no small talks, bullsh.. open minded, seeing big picture. "you dont know the things you suppose to know and you know the things you're not supposed to know" simple. :D go on. (e/i)ntp. O+
curiositygun93 there is a downside to every greatness ! Being aware of the traps is always good... Or maybe its just another intp trait(but somewhat a source for thinking that much?) By the way , it realy can be a main trait! Intp's(such as myself) talk\think through doubt. And maybe we realy are smarter than the rest in general - too smart , when thinking is so fundamental that it becomes endless and causes the doubting of absolutely everything. Sorry for my russian.
These so called "traps" are for me one of my precious traits. But I wouldn't call me some one with INTP, I see myself as a eccentric person. If someone doesn't know a word in our spanish class I always try to help him, ok sometimes I make fun of other people but I still want to help them. I see myself as a individual person. I don't see why people would even think lack of interest in smalltalk is something wrong, I wouldn't like to talk to people who doesn't understand what I'm talking about.
damn... I didn't wanna believe it but I must be INTP, I've taken two personality tests (albeit over the internet) and they both said INTP, furthermore, I can effectively relate to what this dude is talking about on just about every level...
Thank you so much for these videos- keep them going! I think this can really help those who are struggling! I like that you are really being real and addressing these traps!
@TheDigitdeeper I don't think you need to cover up anything. You never need to subtract from yourself. You can always add to yourself. You can always devlop in areas you want to. You will however always be you. Finding peace is the important thing. How you feel is what matters.
Dude, the dressing thing is definitely true. I got bleach on most of my pants at work, and I still wear them, because I feel like they get the job done, right? I don't think they look THAT bad, and I can't be bothered to waist my money buying all new cloths. Defintely an INTP thing.
This is the nature of Rationals. Read about William James Sidis. He was extremely intelligent but couldn't succeed socially because he chose not to adapt. If you look at Christopher Langan, he lived a double-life while being able to stay true to himself. Rationals are very capable of social success. Social interaction is a science too.It takes work though. However, if you don't want to work at it you will be doomed to the Rational social pitfall.
When you started talking about not remembering little trivial facts it made me remember how when people start talking about phones and I don't know which phones they're talking about...at all.
I relate to the cynicism and social disconnect, but those things certainly aren't unique to INTP.s. We're also vulnerable to getting emotionally swept up about random things. We aren't immune to irrationality. INTP'S tend to keep emotions behind a dam, and when under stress, it starts to crack.
@FalconFreek well, what i did was i took a bunch of myers briggs type indicator tests from different websites. from these tests i got INTP 95 percent of the time atleast so then i realized i'm an INTP. Honestly i don't know where to find a good test, you could try INTPcentral, i took a test from that site but i don't know where to find it. basically i'm not a good help because it's been a while since i took a test. but type in mysers briggs type indicator or MBTI in search and see
@Yreva357 They're positive in and of themselves. I love who I am but unfortunately I can't get what i need from people to have satisfying relationships. If loneliness isn't a factor for you then great.
But yes, I just found out today that I am INTP and I feel a great relief that I am not alone. However I have fallen into some of those defined traps, not all of them though.
@AnubisEye009 yea man, you're not alone. It can be difficult as hell being an INTP and feeling like you're an alien in this world. It can be difficult to have meaningful relationships, it can be difficult to understand why people are so enthusiastic about the mundane. there are others. you're deff not alone.
sorry everyone, for not sprinkling LOL and LMAO and XD and :D and :-) throughout my comments, thereby providing a laughtrack to guide you on whether you should laugh, feel offended or hurt, or go hmm?!
henceforth i'll try and speak in a language all you monkeys can understand :D
people often confuse being realistic with being "negative"
life/reality is an unthinking/unfeeling series of moments which we have to careen through without any rudder, thus realistically things are more likely to turn out in ways which we do not want or at least isn't ideal rather than in a way which things often turn out in movies/TV/books.
i'm very realistic/negative as are my myriad INTP friends yet people often accuse us of being pessimistic. realism isn't a negative!
you seem to rely on your gut "feelings" to judge people and project your own feelings onto others.
no, you prick i'm conjecturing. I'm gay and i happen to know a lot of gay people (surprise surprise) and a lot of them gesture more than my heterosexual friends.
are you sure you're not a completely inbred retard who is incapable of just taking comments as just that, objectively derived comments, but instead has to taint them with his rancorous upbringing?
@earlakanik Are you seriously a Ti Dom? I was just pointing out that suggesting someone may be narcissistic/historionic based on a single comment is retarded. Why did you take my comment so personally as to triple ragepost? (Hypocricy... see your laughtrack comment) An INTP wouldn't say bullshit generalizations about what country I'm from. Fuck off.
no, but an INTP would enjoy trolling stupid fools like you who take the internet far too seriously.
my comment about narcissism was meant to be taken as a joke, hence my laughtrack comment later on. of course you can't diagnose someone from just one comment dipshit, hence the humour via incongruity. do you know how humour works?
no, no rage on my part merely mirth. you're the cur who appears to have raged and have thus made my day...
you mean no contextual cues such as the general irreverence of my other comments?
tell me, do you fancy yourself an INTP? if you're unable to compute when someone is being serious to when he is joking that means you're probably somewhere on the autistic spectrum.
don't confuse a personality disorder with a personality type.
it was fun playing, good luck in your desperate quest for some kind of interesting, distinguishing feature (ie the INTP label)
I am the same way about everyone's interest in seemingly frivolous topics. The whole obsession with Hollywood escapes me. I consider myself to be highly intelligent yet I am blown out of the water when it comes to trivia. I mean who cares about who acted in what movie on this arbitrary date? Talk about religion, politics, social issues, and science and I am all over it.
i don't see these things you mentioned as traps, i think it's a trap to be concerned with trivial matters such as cars and furniture. why is that we must always conform to them, why not the other way around?
@occultologist true, well i'd be lying if i said i wasn't bitter about having to deal with mundane boring conversation and then being seen as the odd one for not being enthusiastic. the trap idea comes in when you become negative and cynical, but perhaps i'm justified or dare i say we're justified. perhaps not. it will never be the other way around i fear. and i also think everyone conforms to something 9.9 times out of 10.
yeah thats true!!! he seems very ENTP but the only reason why i thought he'd be introverted is because he's awkward in person and he doesnt really like to talk to people all that much, but yeah i suppose he's more ENTP than INTP.
@HybridD91 i appreciate the deconstructing of this logically, but it's just a saying it's not an equation it's an opinion that stimulates your feeling in order for you to act
Ok.....I was wondering if I really am an INTP...but the more of these videos I see, the more I feel I am apart. My 'I' is only 60%, but I have a hard time talking with people if it is about random things. Talk about religion, politics, computers, or idea, I will brighten up almost immediately.
As an INTP I can totally relate to this. can relate to everything but the social rebellion. The reason for this is because I really don't like to draw attention to myself. I won't go on a bus and start being loud or anything like that.
I agree with you on everything except, memorizes common day facts. I am an intp and i know the price of everything, know current events, remember little facts, and psychology. And just for the record knowing those things wont make you more socially accept. (just from my experience)
To Karch101...Yeah, believe it's very much an INTP issue... the whole "stranger in a strange land" biz. I don't have close friends so to speak, but do know lots of people from all over the place. Never married, no kids either. Am an analytical person (in the sciences), but am also very spiritual (unusual for INTPs). I see "systems" and the big picture. Born cynic too (hate that part).
Good job. You hit the nail on the head esp. with the cynicism of the INTP who must deal with the banality of small talk and trivia that preoccupies the minds of many folks. Wears me out and bet it does you and other INTPs. My boss feels like I'm too "negative" even though I get along well with others and my work output is stellar. Guess I'm expected to walk around with some idjut grin on m y face to satisfy the boss.
@keltic153 it's just not easy to fit in even when you do fit in. Maybe you feel the same way. Even though i'm in a room and even though i get along with everyone i'm still alone. I'm not sure if this is an INTP thing.
you know when people are talking about the price off eggs for example, you can always start to speculate what makes the price go up or how they determine the price for eggs etc etc, you know taking this kind of basic boring conversations to a deeper level.
about feeling superior, i think the one who understands and appreciates different ways of thinking is the one who is truly smart. if someone talks nonsense to you, thats not how it really is, its just you dont get what they say
First of all I love this video. I can relate to you 100%. What makes it harder for me is that I am a female. It's like going against the grain of society. Sometimes I wish I am not an INTP cause I know life will be that much easier that way.
life might be easier, but the grass is always greener. and we do have things to offer, our minds. i think one thing to stay away from is trying to change because our personalities have a genetic basis. very little, if any, part of who we are is by choice if you research neuroscience.
You expressed yourself very well, and as an INTP I could well relate to your experiences. I've heard that people who are 'N' and 'T' are all about competence...I esteem your facility with language.
After watching many videos such as yours I am wondering about some kind of a T-shirt we all could don as a kind of beacon to our fellows. As the literature on MBTI says, we tend to enjoy each other's company particularly.
Rofl, the social rebellion part is just amazing, made me laugh xD. I can completely relate to everything you've said. I laugh at jokes that aren't funny, I make jokes that I don't think are funny, but other people think they are so they laugh. I feel like I'm wearing a mask just so I can get through my day, and not draw attention to myself as the social outcast that I am secretly inside.
@virtuosoikingpin yea deff. the tricky thing is, i know for my life, that i'm actually not an outcast. this may be the same for you. it feels like we're outcasts because people don't appreciate the part of us that we find most valuable, most people anyway.
In particular, I totally understand your pain about being unable to engage in "normal" conversation - tv shows, gossip etc.. It's like you know alot, but not about anything that 95% of people care about. That really sucks. But the independance factor keeps you strong, and people do notice it and respect you for it.
@zanebrant
Agree also with the memory. I remember where people live and have lived, their career path, who they like etc. etc..(very good memory actually)..but then its, "What was your name again?" Pretty sad.
People think you don't care about them if you don't remember their name even though you remember them as a specific, unique individual person.
extemann 3 days ago
Oh, and fuck assimilating into society. Mainstream culture is idiotic
zanebrant 4 days ago
@zanebrant i think what we're witnessing is people having gone insane from their own creation. Most of us have lost touch with what we really are.
Karch101 4 days ago
@Karch101 Indeed. People try to create meaning for life by inventing all sorts of things- when in reality we must look into ourselves for that. I feel like society is at a point of serious growing pains. We now have almost all the abundance we could need, because of the massive advances in technology in recent years, and we're at an awkward time in which the next step isn't as clear as it always has been (produce more food, stop injustice, develop government etc.)
zanebrant 4 days ago
@zanebrant It's definitely a very bizarre time
Karch101 4 days ago
Totally agree with the memory thing. Thought I was alone. I forget peoples names, places, movies etc., but am energized whenever a deeper, more relate-able topic emerges.
zanebrant 4 days ago
I'm 16 right now and for the first time in my life i've discovered why I was so different from everybody else. Since i was 8 I always thought of my self and my way of thinking as superior to everyone else. I've never been social really and I find it hard to be bothered with caring about what other people like. My personality type is INTJ.
MyStuff774 5 days ago
@MyStuff774 cool. i hear what you're saying. Are you struggling?
Karch101 5 days ago
@Karch101 Not really, my social life is ok. Sadly I grew up in a place were the only thing that interests people is TV shows and Sports. I like science, math and physics.
MyStuff774 4 days ago
Insatiable curiosity. I remember once telling a friend if I was dropped into a large square I would immediately run to the fence and shake it saying "let me outta here!".
No matter how many miles wide the inside would be, I would always HAVE to explore the OUTSIDE. My friend said why couldn't I just stay and make the best of what was inside the square. I don't know. Just a strong urge to get out and see what is out there. Like I couldn't or wouldn't survive otherwise. Ah, INTP...
extemann 1 week ago
Holy crap this video made me feel so much better.. I'm not alone. INTPs are such a small group of people, but I'm glad SOMEONE out there understands..
This is pretty much spot on for me. Every part of it.
iAREanthonyyy 1 week ago
I'm a intp also. i do that stuff in public too. its funny
capi7al 2 weeks ago
funny `cause i`ve kinda been in those traps and i`m not a P , i`m a intj .....hit back with your opinion
P4nchi5tu 2 weeks ago
@P4nchi5tu i think it applies to both. my p and j are close in percentages. if you relate to it that's what really matters.
Karch101 2 weeks ago
@Karch101 my j is somewhat to 30%(cant remember very well)
P4nchi5tu 2 weeks ago
@P4nchi5tu I think these "traps" apply to most NT's and/or INT's.
KINGJADEX 2 weeks ago
HOLY SHIT! when you mentioned that you like to test social boundaries, I did not realise that that may have been a INTP trait. Sometimes if I find myself in a good mood, at ease with close friends, Ill shout out "NIGGER!" or other profanities just for some hard to describe rebel that just doesn't give a fuck.
MarcadamiaNut 3 weeks ago
@MarcadamiaNut yea, i see what you're saying. A lot of word prohibitions are stupid in my opinion but you have to remember that we do live in a world where people take them seriously.
Karch101 3 weeks ago
@MarcadamiaNut
you're a child, an immature child.
boliussa 3 weeks ago
@boliussa I am a child but I think I'm pretty mature for my age. It's not as if I go around doing this all the time, it's just sometimes I like to test society and its boundaries and if you can't understand that then it's no skin off my nose.
MarcadamiaNut 3 weeks ago
@MarcadamiaNut
It can be a sensible thing to do, the idea of testing the boundaries. When you get a bit older though, you wouldn't be doing that particular test! it's still something only somebody very immature(relative to an adult) would do. It's easy to be mature for your age in school 'cos you're surrounded by the most incredible unbearable immaturity.
boliussa 3 weeks ago
do you believe in happiness? cause i don't and im religious, being a religious intp is very hard!!
ImN3X 1 month ago
@ImN3X good question. I don't believe in fulfillment. I believe that happiness is a temporary condition that you have when stimulated. I believe that some people are naturally more positive than negative and it's proven that there's a link between cheerfulness and genes. I do however believe that we, u and i, are naturally harder to make happy so we experience it less frequently. As far as fulfillment or lasting happiness is concerned, no, because feelings fluctuate.
Karch101 1 month ago
In terms of social rebellion, I'm right on the same page with you. Because I don't understand a lot of the logic (or lack thereof) behind social norms and traditions and things like that, I tend to challenge them, and thusly isolate myself even further from society. And I agree that INTPs have a hard time empathizing. I took an online empathy test and scored lower than most autistic people.
gnifemaul 1 month ago
@gnifemaul yea, i feel you with the isolation. I don't care to be around people anymore. I talk to one of my friends on the phone and another on the computer, that's it. There is no logic to many of the social norms and many of them hinder instead of help lead a pleasurable life. I don't really understand what's so great about people. How people can look up to people or be really amused by people, or enthralled even. To me everything is ordinary and perhaps you agree.
Karch101 1 month ago
I don't think INTPs lack empathy at all. respectably, I think its an injustice to say that. I think the matter is more that we don't focus on empathy and often tend to over look it. I definitely agree that it is a trap though.
Gregorouse 1 month ago
@Gregorouse I notice in myself that when someone is suffering i am compelled to help them but the feeling itself in my body isn't strong, the emotion. someone of another type will look at someone suffering and perhaps cry of suffer themselves. I don't in any strong way. that's what i mean.
Karch101 1 month ago
As far as memory INTPs tend to get a "hook" on what is interesting to us. We remember well the details of the things that we have interest in, but if we don't have interest we don't have the "hook" and could care less for the details. it really varies by what we like or don't like to remember.
Gregorouse 1 month ago
I actually do enjoy pop culture, but probably not in the same sense that you mean. Instead, I utilize movies, cartoons, and song lyrics to make jokes about what is happening (I'm apparently 20 years behind in my references though). Luckily, the people that I associate with know these references and can easily identify what I am talking about, so I rarely, if ever, fall into that first trap. The other few... that's a little different. However, cynicism is a bittersweet treat in my opinion.
TheNixolas 1 month ago
@TheNixolas i agree about cynicism. I made it a point to be positive for a while, and i was, but negativity and cynicism are much more comfortable for me. I also enjoy it when other people are cynical and even negative. I think different things work for different people and there isn't anything objectively bad about being negative and cynical. I look around and i see life is shit and smile. That's how i roll.
Karch101 1 month ago
INTP female here, I relate to everything you're saying which is really different for me. I usually feel so lost and different then everyone else which I guess us INTPs are. But it's good to know we are out there. I hope I can meet some INTPs in the future seems everyone is an ESFJ or something.
pisceanmind 1 month ago
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pisceanmind 1 month ago
intp traps? wtf..
0:45 - INTP more likely great at remembering whats important, not wasting braincells where they're not needed;
1:43 - don't trouble yourself with the Mundanes...
1:47 - negative/cynical ? in this world, perfectly reasonable;
3:00 - thats could just be called being honest with yourself
walter0bz 1 month ago
@walter0bz i liked this comment
Karch101 1 month ago
Im an INTP, and im not interested in pop culture too, and i can really relate to what you say. I am a very cynical person, I am a social awkward person and i don't really like going to parties, I feel like people dont understand me, but i get along well with people who i can have an intellectual conversation with, but i still put up this wall, pretending that im happy and sometimes crazy person so that people do not know about my depression or loneliness. Thank you a lot for making this video :)
33niewiem33 1 month ago
@33niewiem33 yw. it can be an unfortunate situation finding yourself in this world and not being able to relate to almost anyone or anyone period. As time goes by you get used to being alone in my experience. It doesnt have to stop you from trying to relate to people though. I used to study people to see why they were enjoying eachother's company. Now i atleast understand people better and can contribute into a conversation if i wanted to. If you haven't tried that you could.
Karch101 1 month ago
You fall into these traps because you have average intelligence.
christian5327 1 month ago
@christian5327 i do. but atleast i'm not unkind.
Karch101 1 month ago
@christian5327 Incorrect logic, my friend. To say that these "traps" are solely based on intelligence is an absurd miscalculation. I think of them as simply an alternative point of view. I personally consider conformity as a true trap. The WAY in which we are different may correlate positively with intelligence. But the existence of difference does not necessarily imply low intelligence. The smart people are different in a better way. the dumb people are different in a worse way.
CuriousGeorjay 1 month ago
@CuriousGeorjay If you look on his channel he's just going to different people's vlogs and saying rude things to them. He may not actually even believe what he says. Not worth your time.
Karch101 1 month ago
@Karch101 This is so flawed. You hedge your words like an insecure girl. If you have an issue with my statements then I suggest that you craft a good paragraph and send it to me for critique. Also, try your best to use proper grammar and Standard English. I know that composition was not your best subject in high school so I standby patiently awaiting your response.
christian5327 3 weeks ago
@christian5327 hey, i looked at your profile and i see that you just like to say mean things to people. so, say what you will, do what you want. i don't care. i hope it's doing something for you.
Karch101 3 weeks ago
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christian5327 3 weeks ago
@CuriousGeorjay You need to read more carefully. You are ASSUMING that my statement applies to trap creation. Traps can be constructed from all sorts of materials including physical, emotional and psychological dimensions. My statement was geared towards trap AVOIDANCE. Obviously, the presumption is that people of average intelligence are the candidates that these traps target. Traps by their very nature target entities in the middle of the spectrum. Otherwise, trap creation would be time wasted
christian5327 3 weeks ago
Hey guys, I've done all of these.. if you're looking for a good psych read try "The introvert Advantage: How to Thrive in an Extrovert World"
FactorCerveza 1 month ago
@FactorCerveza already read it :P. it's on my shelf
Karch101 1 month ago
spot on pal
mrmrhollingsworth 2 months ago
WOW... you just read myself.
lolikatu 2 months ago
i rather b me then a copy so hell yes 2 social rebllion
kris48267 2 months ago
@kris48267 i used to think that, the thing is if you learn how to fit in and understand all types of people. (ie, if you get into an argument with a feeler, try to understand why they are reacting in a certain way, learn exactly what to say to them to make them feel understood/appreciated, then and only then will you get them to help out your cause) rebellion gets you know where on your own. you need an army. Play smart and INTP has the characteristics to succeed big time
mrmrhollingsworth 2 months ago
As a 25+ year old INTP I have fallen into all of the above traps (except social rebellion never fully manifested itself in the material world) but I have overcome them all except being socially distant. I still feel that I have important work to do that requires my time and energy, not much is left for actively pursuing social relationships.
ncaerulea 2 months ago
@ncaerulea it all depends on if you want social relationships or not. if not that's cool too. I like talking to people when i'm at work or at school. If i'm not at either of those places i like being by myself. thats just me.
Karch101 2 months ago
Yeah, I've fallen into the exact same traps you did but I'm working hard this academic year to climb out of them. For several months I had a strong superiority complex and noticed that it was actually more fun to let loose sometimes, talking about mundane topics to other people rather than just rigidly sticking to the deeper/intellectual ones. Basically, it was just a matter of learning how to socialise with the general populous again. :)
Hoobes1 2 months ago
As an INTP, I can definitely relate to the social rebellion that you speak of. For example, I never bother to follow social etiquette rules because they're just plain stupid. However, I don't really see it as a trap or a bad thing. You said it's bad because it makes it hard to assimilate yourself. Frankly, I couldn't care less about assimilating myself. I quite enjoy being an outcast.
PockASqueeno 2 months ago
@PockASqueeno look at it logically, follow the rules and use them to your advantage. lots of people are impressed by posh branded watches, thats why i wear them. seems shallow to me but im winning. Follow social etiquette rules, what a simple way to gain status and acceptance. Feels like im cheating.....surely to disregard those otherwise pointless rules is counter productive for ones self?
mrmrhollingsworth 2 months ago
@mrmrhollingsworth Status and acceptance? *yawn* Who cares?
PockASqueeno 2 months ago
@PockASqueeno Well, it depends if you care about attracting hot women, promotions, more money etc. In my opinion status is essential for all these things
mrmrhollingsworth 2 months ago
@mrmrhollingsworth Well, I already have a woman who doesn't really care about my status. The women who do are usually superficial and not worth being with. As for promotions and money, I suppose it depends on the job.
PockASqueeno 2 months ago
@PockASqueeno good point dude
mrmrhollingsworth 2 months ago
I'm a ENTJ with a soft E and J. I do especially poorly with Feelers. Nobody gets on my nerves more and I'm certainly not popular with them either. I'm "mean". It really gets on my nerves how they act like they are so caring of others, but they are sometimes more interests in their own needs than others, but then call it selfish when you don't comply. I am not uncaring, I just don't make decisions based on how it will effect 1 person (them). I consider the whole, including myself, of course.
DiaShanti 3 months ago
@DiaShanti yea. thing is, we see the world through our own eyes and it can be difficult to understand where people are coming from. people who are emotional have intense feelings within their chest and stomachs and such that are affected by people's words and actions. we don't have that. so it can be difficult to understand.
Karch101 2 months ago
@Karch101 I'm a Thinker who has somewhat of a Feeling developed side. I can see when I've hurt their feelings, but do feel annoyed they are taking something personal which I may view as irrelevant to feelings. Take for example my preference to live in the tropics over the dessert. This was taken by a Feeler who lives in the arid climate of the South West of Arizona as a personal attack. We even had an arguement about it and he said I was not being fair to Arizona to call it a dessert!
DiaShanti 2 months ago
@DiaShanti Most feelers would find getting insulted by that completely retarded. Maybe they were trolling you?
Standuble 2 months ago
@DiaShanti yea i dunno :p
Karch101 2 months ago
Lol im an INTP.. spot on
miks8 3 months ago
I would consider myself as an INTP/INFP hybrid. I am very focused on abstract concepts, and love discussing various ideas but at the same time, I am quite empathetic. I can connect with others.
CybernautZero 3 months ago
I can relate man...
finemoves 3 months ago
hahaha, i constantly have to feign interest when people are talking to me about such mundane things like what they did with their day.
fLcGambit 3 months ago 2
Hi, I'm ENTJ with soft E and J... (so I can basically switch between ENTJ, INTJ, ENTP and of course INTP).
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You nailed it so well... I used to to do all off them, but then I would become even more shunned... so that would make it much worse...
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Thank you for making this video.
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I'm also happy to see that you try to assimilate into society... Us Rationals (xNTx types) really need to learn to life in a Sensor populated society...
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Thank bro.
bizbite2 3 months ago
yw man. All you have to do is study people and then practice. I wanted approval, i'm not gunna lie. and i get it now, a lot of it. it's all from practice and observation.
Karch101 3 months ago
@bizbite2 Oh that is so me too! ENTJ with a "soft" E and J. Well put.
DiaShanti 3 months ago
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riverlioness 4 months ago
I don't regard social distance when in trivial discussions as a "trap." I'm genuinely not interested in that stuff, and trying to get engaged in that feels like emotional drudgery. Re. being negative and cynical, and having a sense of superiority, I agree. That is a trap. These are not healthful emotions for myself. I still want to engage with others. The problem has been how to relate to them somehow. I hear studying anthropology helps. Haven't dressed funny to test boundaries.
mmille10 4 months ago
i am an intp...and i think you can make most of being an intp is by accepting who you are...but an intp should try to be a bit more social and a 'bit' humble...otherwise they are cool guys
arcraptor 5 months ago
so ur saying that in a few years ill stop when my neighbor is watering his plants to tell him how i feel about the weather?? and after that to walk away not thinking of the seconds ill never get back ?? oww dear puberty will hit me hard!! :)
2Garyable 5 months ago
@2Garyable The thing about life, is you have to make your own fun. you could ask your neighbor about the weather in an unconventional way or say something completely different. it's your voice and your body. you can do what you want with it.
Karch101 5 months ago
@intj333 yea but i think it's even simpler than that. It's a matter of what you want out of life. I wanted to be capable of being social and confident so i worked on it. Got help working on it and achieved my goals. It's about peace and feelings. If something ruins your peace than that should be one of the top priorities in my opinion. It changes though. When i became social i realized i didn't enjoy it as much as i thought i would. Nothing has to be accepted as a handicap though.
Karch101 5 months ago
The deck of Magic cards on teh dresser made me smile. XD
Syphaxis 5 months ago
@Syphaxis :P i'm glad it made you happy, but i dont own magic cards. I do however own a lord of the rings chess set
Karch101 5 months ago
I feel ya... We tend to fall away from people.
XxMetalManxX 6 months ago
so are you trying to say that this superiority that i feel is only a complex!?
alexamada 6 months ago
MOST ENGAGING! I have come to the same exact conclusions that you just spoke of! You in fact, just confirmed my theories.... Thank you.
jbeck9001 6 months ago
I definately can relate to all of this. I'm a fifteen year old INTP female which can be very difficult, in that there's a lack of social acceptance which causes negativity, sarcastic responses, thinking very cynically... Part of the acceptance is that I tend to be naturally distant so I envy others which brings out a harshness that pushes me even farther away.
meowmeowpilot 6 months ago
hah so weird all those apply to me. intp as well
PorcelainBackbones 6 months ago
Thank you for expressing exactly how I feel.
I'm an INTP. I have all of the same traps.
threebobs 6 months ago
I identify with all your points... except when you say social rebellion, your example is far removed from my own. That made me think of how I've always been rebellious about authority, and have a very hard time being told what to do.. especially when (and is usually the case) I can't help but view the other person as having less intelligence... This causes me problems in my jobs.. it caused problems back in school... etc.
Frejborg 6 months ago
And that stuff about jumping on the train sounds like typical teenage stuff, not necessarily INTP. The INTP rebelliouness is against social pressures or conventions, like me being a girl and not interested in acting in a way to make myself attractive, or...not focusing on building a career, and instead settling for just learning bits and pieces of stuff.
Or...not caring about having a "cool" car or God knows what all the other heathens go for.
NightinGal89 6 months ago
@NightinGal89 i agree. the train stuff however was to achieve more social freedom as opposed to just horsing around. I do think though that INTPs typically exhibit these traits and social difficulties. I'm not a myers briggs expert but i've found a body of people who struggle with similar issues so i say INTP. it seems that i'm right that a lot of INTPs struggle with these things judging by the success of the video. It's more to help than anything else, show people they're not alone.
Karch101 6 months ago
@NightinGal89 Ha, I fucking feel you with this,
'not focusing on building a career, and instead settling for just learning bits and pieces of stuff.'
i'm half heartedly trying to get into the career thing atm, but honestly i don't give a fuck. My ideal job would be one where I could just get paid for sitting around reading and drinking coffee, haven't worked out how to get paid for this yet..
gingerjames86 6 months ago
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ixataca 6 months ago
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Respond to this video... I am INTP too and I jump from airplanes.
ixataca 6 months ago
I don't think the stuff you talked about is strictly INTP. I am an INTP, as well, but do remember movie quotes, if I can relate to them, or if I find them humorous/philosophical. Such as "you look like a man who accepts what he sees, because he is expecting to wake up." That's from Matrix. lol.
NightinGal89 6 months ago
hm, I was hoping you have advice for avoiding these traps :P
I don't know how to approach people. Building relationships is a mystery to me. I'm distant, but it's not always because I want to be distant, I mean sometimes I distance myself on purpose because I'm interested in interacting with superficial people, but sometimes I'm distant simply because I don't know how to approach others.
hasenj 6 months ago
@hasenj i think i understand where you're coming from. If you want this to change i would start by writing your thoughts down on a pad that you carry with you. This can help you identify what you want. There's a lot in my videos that i didnt say. between this video and now i've experienced a lot of growth from work with groups, therapy and self analysis. The pad can help with the self analysis. The first thing you have to do is identify your fears and do what you fear
Karch101 6 months ago
@hasenj Keep challenging yourself and you'll grow. i live in NYC so i used to use the train as my stage sort of. I would talk to people, dance, cause little odd scenes, just to get over my fear of disapproval and judgement. You don't have to start there if you dont want to but getting used to disapproval is definitely a step in the right direction. getting used to disapproval and also realizing that it takes a lot more to get disapproval than you may think. sometimes you get approval.
Karch101 6 months ago
@Karch101 Thanks.
Reminds me of "rejection therapy".
I recently started to try and apply some of these ideas. I'm not doing it everyday though, but hopefully I'll improve with time.
hasenj 6 months ago
@hasenj that's awesome, i never heard of that before. but thats basically it. it's a matter of doing the things you fear even though you fear them. at the beginning your body may freeze up and you might have mental barriers that are too strong but eventually you'll be able to do what you fear and then you can fear less and less. you do have to be your own therapist most of the time just because no one is with you. its a matter of putting your energy in that direction, taking it seriously.
Karch101 6 months ago
@Karch101 I forgot to mention that "rejection therapy" is a kind of game you're supposed to play. checkout rejectiontherapy . com
hasenj 6 months ago
Now I understand why I connected so solidly with the underground punk rock movement! It's crazy that there are actually people that I can relate to now. I always felt so isolated. I've been able to connect with people by forcing to make small talk, and this has helped out greatly with my attitude and how I view others in the world. I feel though as part of my assimilation process that I've somehow gotten dumber. You know how it is.
TheCrass1984 7 months ago
Ok,
1) you are basically me, and it's strange but it interests me
2) I wouldn't necessarily call these 'traps', because they're just traits of an INTP, as unfortunate as it is, they're defiantly not traps, otherwise we wouldn't exactly be INTP's.
3) However socially stooooopid we are, I really love the fact that I finally know I'm not an actual anomaly of the human race, and that other INTP's are just the coolest people evaaaa, bitches!
ok, I sound like a twat :/, excuse me :)
oddpipe 7 months ago
So Sharp
alsayerkw 7 months ago
It's like looking in a mirror.
jayross3 7 months ago
i tend to over dress.. whenever i can. superiority complex? ill work on that..
tdesnomie07 7 months ago
hey, throw some jokes in there buddy. For a intp, you sure aren't that funny. :P
tdesnomie07 7 months ago
you arent cynical. your type is one of the best to talk to!!! no small talks, bullsh.. open minded, seeing big picture. "you dont know the things you suppose to know and you know the things you're not supposed to know" simple. :D go on. (e/i)ntp. O+
entplady 7 months ago
curiositygun93 there is a downside to every greatness ! Being aware of the traps is always good... Or maybe its just another intp trait(but somewhat a source for thinking that much?) By the way , it realy can be a main trait! Intp's(such as myself) talk\think through doubt. And maybe we realy are smarter than the rest in general - too smart , when thinking is so fundamental that it becomes endless and causes the doubting of absolutely everything. Sorry for my russian.
joolshuck 8 months ago
Memory is better when you're emotionally heightened. What doesn't excite you - you're not gonna remember.
Leto2ndAtreides 8 months ago
These so called "traps" are for me one of my precious traits. But I wouldn't call me some one with INTP, I see myself as a eccentric person. If someone doesn't know a word in our spanish class I always try to help him, ok sometimes I make fun of other people but I still want to help them. I see myself as a individual person. I don't see why people would even think lack of interest in smalltalk is something wrong, I wouldn't like to talk to people who doesn't understand what I'm talking about.
GideonHaitis 8 months ago
damn... I didn't wanna believe it but I must be INTP, I've taken two personality tests (albeit over the internet) and they both said INTP, furthermore, I can effectively relate to what this dude is talking about on just about every level...
marcrib79 9 months ago
Thank you so much for these videos- keep them going! I think this can really help those who are struggling! I like that you are really being real and addressing these traps!
inquisitive66 9 months ago
@TheDigitdeeper I don't think you need to cover up anything. You never need to subtract from yourself. You can always add to yourself. You can always devlop in areas you want to. You will however always be you. Finding peace is the important thing. How you feel is what matters.
Karch101 9 months ago
Dude, the dressing thing is definitely true. I got bleach on most of my pants at work, and I still wear them, because I feel like they get the job done, right? I don't think they look THAT bad, and I can't be bothered to waist my money buying all new cloths. Defintely an INTP thing.
itanimullitenretni 10 months ago
This is the nature of Rationals. Read about William James Sidis. He was extremely intelligent but couldn't succeed socially because he chose not to adapt. If you look at Christopher Langan, he lived a double-life while being able to stay true to himself. Rationals are very capable of social success. Social interaction is a science too.It takes work though. However, if you don't want to work at it you will be doomed to the Rational social pitfall.
chanatponheng 10 months ago
When you started talking about not remembering little trivial facts it made me remember how when people start talking about phones and I don't know which phones they're talking about...at all.
RoadRunner1231 10 months ago
I relate to the cynicism and social disconnect, but those things certainly aren't unique to INTP.s. We're also vulnerable to getting emotionally swept up about random things. We aren't immune to irrationality. INTP'S tend to keep emotions behind a dam, and when under stress, it starts to crack.
LeVidocq 11 months ago
Thanks for putting this out there.
barcbyte 11 months ago
dude, how can i know what is my personality type ?
FalconFreek 11 months ago
@FalconFreek well, what i did was i took a bunch of myers briggs type indicator tests from different websites. from these tests i got INTP 95 percent of the time atleast so then i realized i'm an INTP. Honestly i don't know where to find a good test, you could try INTPcentral, i took a test from that site but i don't know where to find it. basically i'm not a good help because it's been a while since i took a test. but type in mysers briggs type indicator or MBTI in search and see
Karch101 11 months ago
I think these "traps" you described are positive. To not be caught up with the trivial side of life is a huge bonus in my opinion.
Yreva357 11 months ago 8
@Yreva357 They're positive in and of themselves. I love who I am but unfortunately I can't get what i need from people to have satisfying relationships. If loneliness isn't a factor for you then great.
Karch101 11 months ago
ITS A TRAP!!
-Admiral Ackbar
But yes, I just found out today that I am INTP and I feel a great relief that I am not alone. However I have fallen into some of those defined traps, not all of them though.
AnubisEye009 11 months ago
@AnubisEye009 yea man, you're not alone. It can be difficult as hell being an INTP and feeling like you're an alien in this world. It can be difficult to have meaningful relationships, it can be difficult to understand why people are so enthusiastic about the mundane. there are others. you're deff not alone.
Karch101 11 months ago
sorry everyone, for not sprinkling LOL and LMAO and XD and :D and :-) throughout my comments, thereby providing a laughtrack to guide you on whether you should laugh, feel offended or hurt, or go hmm?!
henceforth i'll try and speak in a language all you monkeys can understand :D
here's to us, THE INTPs woop woop XD XD XD ^_^
morons
earlakanik 1 year ago
people often confuse being realistic with being "negative"
life/reality is an unthinking/unfeeling series of moments which we have to careen through without any rudder, thus realistically things are more likely to turn out in ways which we do not want or at least isn't ideal rather than in a way which things often turn out in movies/TV/books.
i'm very realistic/negative as are my myriad INTP friends yet people often accuse us of being pessimistic. realism isn't a negative!
earlakanik 1 year ago
I've never seen an INTP gesture so much before.
SilentSputnik 1 year ago
@SilentSputnik
perhaps he's homosexual/bisexual?
earlakanik 1 year ago
@earlakanik You seem to label/diagnose people with little or no evidence in your comments. Are you sure you're not a jerk?
SilentSputnik 1 year ago
@SilentSputnik
you seem to rely on your gut "feelings" to judge people and project your own feelings onto others.
no, you prick i'm conjecturing. I'm gay and i happen to know a lot of gay people (surprise surprise) and a lot of them gesture more than my heterosexual friends.
are you sure you're not a completely inbred retard who is incapable of just taking comments as just that, objectively derived comments, but instead has to taint them with his rancorous upbringing?
try thinking for once.
earlakanik 1 year ago
@SilentSputnik
oh, i'm sorry! you're not retarded, you're just canadian. explains everything. I'm sooo sorry for my earlier comments denigrating your intelligence.
earlakanik 1 year ago
@earlakanik Are you seriously a Ti Dom? I was just pointing out that suggesting someone may be narcissistic/historionic based on a single comment is retarded. Why did you take my comment so personally as to triple ragepost? (Hypocricy... see your laughtrack comment) An INTP wouldn't say bullshit generalizations about what country I'm from. Fuck off.
SilentSputnik 1 year ago
@SilentSputnik
no, but an INTP would enjoy trolling stupid fools like you who take the internet far too seriously.
my comment about narcissism was meant to be taken as a joke, hence my laughtrack comment later on. of course you can't diagnose someone from just one comment dipshit, hence the humour via incongruity. do you know how humour works?
no, no rage on my part merely mirth. you're the cur who appears to have raged and have thus made my day...
enjoy lumberjacking :-)
earlakanik 1 year ago
@earlakanik There was no contextual cues in your comment that suggested you were joking. Enjoy being a douchebag.
SilentSputnik 1 year ago
@SilentSputnik
LOL
you mean no contextual cues such as the general irreverence of my other comments?
tell me, do you fancy yourself an INTP? if you're unable to compute when someone is being serious to when he is joking that means you're probably somewhere on the autistic spectrum.
don't confuse a personality disorder with a personality type.
it was fun playing, good luck in your desperate quest for some kind of interesting, distinguishing feature (ie the INTP label)
earlakanik 1 year ago
I am the same way about everyone's interest in seemingly frivolous topics. The whole obsession with Hollywood escapes me. I consider myself to be highly intelligent yet I am blown out of the water when it comes to trivia. I mean who cares about who acted in what movie on this arbitrary date? Talk about religion, politics, social issues, and science and I am all over it.
Cerulean0987 1 year ago
@Cerulean0987
there are a lot of "I"s in your comment, are you sure you're an INTP and not simply narcissistic/histrionic?
earlakanik 1 year ago
i don't see these things you mentioned as traps, i think it's a trap to be concerned with trivial matters such as cars and furniture. why is that we must always conform to them, why not the other way around?
occultologist 1 year ago
@occultologist true, well i'd be lying if i said i wasn't bitter about having to deal with mundane boring conversation and then being seen as the odd one for not being enthusiastic. the trap idea comes in when you become negative and cynical, but perhaps i'm justified or dare i say we're justified. perhaps not. it will never be the other way around i fear. and i also think everyone conforms to something 9.9 times out of 10.
Karch101 1 year ago
i have intp but i am also very shy.... it sucks!
YoungNubb 1 year ago
INTP's are all so similar in their outlook on life and science, politics, etc...its sooo interesting!
I suggest you watch "theamazingatheist" here on youtube, he is also an INTP and maybe you'd be surprised at how similar your views may be with his.
Just something i picked up on....
veronicachic 1 year ago
@veronicachic yea, i found the amazing atheist. very amusing. you should try nonstampcollector
Karch101 1 year ago
@veronicachic He's introverted? I think not. Pretty obvious ENTP imo. I share a lot of his views though.
SilentSputnik 1 year ago
@SilentSputnik
yeah thats true!!! he seems very ENTP but the only reason why i thought he'd be introverted is because he's awkward in person and he doesnt really like to talk to people all that much, but yeah i suppose he's more ENTP than INTP.
veronicachic 1 year ago
great people talk about ideas
average people talk about things
small people talk about other people
curiositygun93 1 year ago 19
@curiositygun93 What if you're talking about an idea that concerned an average person?
HybridD91 7 months ago
@HybridD91 i appreciate the deconstructing of this logically, but it's just a saying it's not an equation it's an opinion that stimulates your feeling in order for you to act
curiositygun93 7 months ago
@curiositygun93
That quote is about other people.
LovetteCher 5 months ago
Ok.....I was wondering if I really am an INTP...but the more of these videos I see, the more I feel I am apart. My 'I' is only 60%, but I have a hard time talking with people if it is about random things. Talk about religion, politics, computers, or idea, I will brighten up almost immediately.
Zionoxis 1 year ago
As an INTP I can totally relate to this. can relate to everything but the social rebellion. The reason for this is because I really don't like to draw attention to myself. I won't go on a bus and start being loud or anything like that.
caffingdu 1 year ago
@caffingdu i just bought a red and black fur coat... i should have fun with that one.
Karch101 1 year ago
i feel very much the same way, but i do remember movie and quotes. but i enjoy film and art
sonnybeilbill3 1 year ago
I agree with you on everything except, memorizes common day facts. I am an intp and i know the price of everything, know current events, remember little facts, and psychology. And just for the record knowing those things wont make you more socially accept. (just from my experience)
Costoffplus 1 year ago
To Karch101...Yeah, believe it's very much an INTP issue... the whole "stranger in a strange land" biz. I don't have close friends so to speak, but do know lots of people from all over the place. Never married, no kids either. Am an analytical person (in the sciences), but am also very spiritual (unusual for INTPs). I see "systems" and the big picture. Born cynic too (hate that part).
keltic153 1 year ago
Good job. You hit the nail on the head esp. with the cynicism of the INTP who must deal with the banality of small talk and trivia that preoccupies the minds of many folks. Wears me out and bet it does you and other INTPs. My boss feels like I'm too "negative" even though I get along well with others and my work output is stellar. Guess I'm expected to walk around with some idjut grin on m y face to satisfy the boss.
keltic153 1 year ago
@keltic153 it's just not easy to fit in even when you do fit in. Maybe you feel the same way. Even though i'm in a room and even though i get along with everyone i'm still alone. I'm not sure if this is an INTP thing.
Karch101 1 year ago
you know when people are talking about the price off eggs for example, you can always start to speculate what makes the price go up or how they determine the price for eggs etc etc, you know taking this kind of basic boring conversations to a deeper level.
about feeling superior, i think the one who understands and appreciates different ways of thinking is the one who is truly smart. if someone talks nonsense to you, thats not how it really is, its just you dont get what they say
-intp
Pirikettu 1 year ago
First of all I love this video. I can relate to you 100%. What makes it harder for me is that I am a female. It's like going against the grain of society. Sometimes I wish I am not an INTP cause I know life will be that much easier that way.
a7s8d9f0g1 1 year ago
life might be easier, but the grass is always greener. and we do have things to offer, our minds. i think one thing to stay away from is trying to change because our personalities have a genetic basis. very little, if any, part of who we are is by choice if you research neuroscience.
Karch101 1 year ago
You expressed yourself very well, and as an INTP I could well relate to your experiences. I've heard that people who are 'N' and 'T' are all about competence...I esteem your facility with language.
After watching many videos such as yours I am wondering about some kind of a T-shirt we all could don as a kind of beacon to our fellows. As the literature on MBTI says, we tend to enjoy each other's company particularly.
weestro7 1 year ago
@weestro7 that would be great wouldn't it, INTP t-shirts. then we'd know exactly who to talk to.
Karch101 1 year ago
Maybe you should just acknowledge all these things you think are "traps", but don't cross the limit.
Try being a girl INTP. haha. Ummm okay only girl in the class that listens to blaring metal. Cool. haha.
littleflowwer 1 year ago
Rofl, the social rebellion part is just amazing, made me laugh xD. I can completely relate to everything you've said. I laugh at jokes that aren't funny, I make jokes that I don't think are funny, but other people think they are so they laugh. I feel like I'm wearing a mask just so I can get through my day, and not draw attention to myself as the social outcast that I am secretly inside.
virtuosoikingpin 1 year ago
@virtuosoikingpin yea deff. the tricky thing is, i know for my life, that i'm actually not an outcast. this may be the same for you. it feels like we're outcasts because people don't appreciate the part of us that we find most valuable, most people anyway.
Karch101 1 year ago
The distance is common, even when things are going really well. It just is the way it is.
Cool vid.
TheBombRock 1 year ago
people love this video.... i mean i love it too but goodness look at all the people who listen to you i am absolutely facinated by you... goodness
ZeRope7447 1 year ago
In particular, I totally understand your pain about being unable to engage in "normal" conversation - tv shows, gossip etc.. It's like you know alot, but not about anything that 95% of people care about. That really sucks. But the independance factor keeps you strong, and people do notice it and respect you for it.
jonasteuma 1 year ago
Are you sure that you're INTP and not INTJ?
blueecto 1 year ago