i agree that there should be less shaming associated with sexual activity. people have tried to make me feel guilty for committing "rape" and have tried to "rehabilitate" me. I will not let the guilt-mongers and moralists convert me into a weak, domesticated creatures they are themselves. morality is just a human coping mechanism in a harsh world. i reject their morality and am not the least bit ashamed of the things I have done.
The thing about most rapists being someone the victim knows is so true. I know someone who was raped and abused by both her brother and her uncle for years. They still aren't in prison because the police couldn't find enough evidence or some shit like that. She never once dressed provocatively but has been lead to believe by her family (especially her mother) that it's all her fault. It's sick.
Expected forms of dress for the sexes play into this. Women are expected to dress in tight clothing, wear make-up, have certain hairstyles and hair colors, and to reveal varying amounts of skin depending on the situation.
Men experience this, too, and generally, men's clothing and appearance are heavily de-sexualized for the most part when compared to fashion and hairstyles deemed appropriate for women in the same situations. Even in swimwear and underwear. I'll provide an example.
@indigothecat I once had some of my friends who were young adult women brose through a name-brand men's underwear catalogue, you might call the styles it provides as "minimalist" or "metro" and "stylish. These women also identified as Christians.
They thought, despite the male models being in extremely good shape and well-groomed, that the underwear was too girly, or "feminine" or that it was gross and looked wrong. Men's fashion is expected to desexualize them, and they didn't...
@indigothecat ...like the men being exposed and showing off their beautiful bodies and wearing little clothing, and clothing that emphasized their bodies.
The whole "blaming the victim" argument is just as insulting to men; by providing the bizarre assumption that all men are roaming the streets like fucking reavers looking to rape women showing more than an inch of skin.
@DesBlackmore It's not an ideology that I'm following you moron. It's facts, supported from decades of crime statistics and backed by every professional in the field. And you still have yet to explain how the sober women in burkhas get abducted and raped, often in the daytime. You have a gut reaction that you feel makes you right, and nothing else. Your "precautions" don't do fuck all for preventing rape. You're just another victim-blaming imbecile without a clue.
If rape had anything to do with how little someone wore people at nudist colonies would always get raped and girls with burkas never would. But btw, it happens to be the EXACT OPPOSITE.
In Egypt where women all wear burkas the rape rate is about 86% of women. It's because of MISOGYNY.
@DesBlackmore Yes women should not be allowed to walk around alone bcause they aren't being safe against rape. Don't you realize how absolutely degrading that is? You clearly are not a woman, or else you'd know how fucking dehumanizing it feels that it is still taboo for you to go outside alone. Ever take into consideration that maybe they can fight? Or that they may have a weapon. on top of that most rapes occur in the home by people they know. There is no actual precaution.
@DesBlackmore This is my point: THERE IS NO PRECAUTION THAT PREVENTS RAPE. Women in burkhas who are stone sober get abducted off the street in broad daylight and get raped. How the fuck were they supposed to prevent that? Rapists are looking for a female. That is it. They will make it work one way or another, clothing means nothing, mental state means nothing, how many people in her group means nothing because he can still follow her home and see where she lives. You are wrong, deal with it.
If I wear a suit with $100 bills taped to my suit, and I walk downtown at night, is it my fault if someone rips one of those bills off my suit? Aren't you victim blaming?
@shmiggen the fact that a woman who does that is blamed, but a man is not is sexist. no one says "he got raped? well, he shouldn't have dressed provocitively."
@Andsormida01 the fact that a woman who does that is blamed, but a man is not is sexist. no one says "he got raped? well, he shouldn't have dressed provocitively."
Now that would be like me, Dave Chappelle, the comedian, walking down the street in a cop uniform. Somebody might run up on me, saying, "Oh, thank God. Officer, help us! Come on. They're over here. Help us!" "Oh-hoh! Just because I'm dressed this way does not make me a police officer!" See what I mean? All right, ladies, fine. You are not a whore. But you are wearing a whore's uniform.
@lashkaretoiba that's something created by society, in other cultures, a woman can walk around naked, or in a sexy outfit and she's praised for having a beautiful body. our culture has social prejudice against women. if a woman IS looking for sex, then give hr sex, don't rape her, unfortuatley people don't know the difference between rape and sex. if she says no, perhaps you're ugly and she was hoping to hook up with a hot guy. if a guy shows off his flesh, is that a hoe's uniform
The girl says "Oh uh-uh, wait a minute! Wait a minute! Just because I'm dressed this way does not make me a whore!" Which is true. Gentlemen, that is true. Just because they dress a certain way doesn't mean they are a certain way. Don't ever forget it. But ladies, you must understand that is fucking confusing. It just is.
@lashkaretoiba if a guy dresses like a certin way, is he wearing a hoe's unifirm? and what is this to do with rape? rape is violently attacking someone else. if a woman is looking for a hook up, then give he sex, don't rape her. yo might be thinking, "how is that possible?" it's cuz hardly anyone knows the difference between sex and rape. if she dresses a certin way, that doesn't mean she deserves to be violently attacked. even if she says yes to sex, she can be violently attacked
Why is "Sex ass girl tits x sluts porn nude sarkozy les..." on the right? Hmm, perhaps it's a constructive relative video on morals and values over socially acceptable opinions!
@DesBlackmore "(not going out alone, dressing modestly) the chances of her getting rape will, naturally, be lower. " that's still not true. Just because you keep writing it over and over again. Criminology established that you are wrong. They have research material and statistics, all you have is your own sobjective opinion on it and no actual proof.
@DesBlackmore You can argue all you want about the woman somehow bringing it on herself, but mental health professionals and criminologists all say you are wrong. These aren't feminist blowhards saying this, they're highly educated professionals who study this sort of thing as a career.
Even your lock and camera example is useless. If someone wants your stuff enough to steal it, it's well known that they don't care about locks or cameras, they will bust a window and wear a damn mask.
@DesBlackmore Do you even have an idea of what the most common rapes are? Most occur in the home, most rapists are known by the victim. Most rapists don't give a shit how the woman is dressed. Stone sober women in burkas get raped. The girl in your example would be far more likely to get all the way home and dress into her pajamas before the rape occured by someone who already knew her than get raped in an alleyway. Victim blaming is moronic in any case where a person is choosing to attack them.
@DesBlackmore Women in burkas get raped. There is pretty much no way of dressing, acting or looking that will stop rapists. And it's not women who are saying "rape is about power", criminologists are. Because it's true. Heterosexual males rape other males in prison. It's not a matter of anyone "thinking too hard", it's a matter of morons blaming the victim. By your logic no one should buy anything worth stealing since it will inevitably draw the attention of a thief who will want to steal it.
@DesBlackmore You're right. I don't understand how these women can say rape is never about sex or the way a women is dressed. Rape can be about ANYTHING. Rape can also be about a fetish. A rapist could have an ankle sock fetish and go after girls wearing ankle socks, or tattoos, or blue hair, or anything. Even the sound of high heels clicking on pavement can drive a rapist wild. Anything can trigger rape, from slutty clothes to church clothes. And yes, it's usually a power thing, but not always.
Wow, sooooo many people don't get this it's scary. No wonder women get raped.
If you jump in shark infested waters covered in blood & chum then you can expect bad things to happen. You can only equate women deserving to be raped by going out with friends getting drunk in a short skirt if you're willing to concede some brutal things about men & society. I mean some hopelessly brutal sad things. The west is not some fucking village in a 3rd world Islamic Theocracy. Real men simply can't rape.
Oh god @healthyaddict your an athiest? thats a nother can of worms.lol nutjob much? sorry but nothing your saying is accurate at all anyone with common Sense knows no matter what sex you are! if you dont want something bad do happen you dont PROVOKE and increase the chances. someone who is not attractive and gets raped its a whole nother thing its just some dude whos looney tunes
If you didn't understand what i just said, than i believe YOU would be the fucking idiot.
It was clear, and also don't tell me too "get a girlfriend" :Haha i have one already unlike your ignorant ass, and i "dont have too get a life" i already have one "lol" Douche fuck off
as demeaning as the fallacy that how a woman dresses can lead to or justify rape is to women, it is a hundred times more demeaning and insulting to men. this implies that as a man i have so little conrol over my animalistic urges that just seeing a sexually attractive woman is too much for my wittle bwain, and it also proves that muslims are the worst of religionists- theyre apparently so weak and immature that thier women have to be covered from head to toe or they just cant help themselves
I agree, I think it's both men's fault for being so darn horny and violent (genetic disadvantages in our current societies) (but not the individuals' fault, they can't help that they were born male), and the culture's fault that allows women to dress in a way that is provoking men's sexual drives. It's also the society's fault for not having good enough ways to deal with men's tendency toward violence and their hard-wired extreme sexual drives.
The false equivalence between "rapability" and attractiveness is an interpretive failure. Being or dressing sexy does not warrant rape (as nothing does), so why associate the two? Sexuality can attract attention but in no way inherently induces violence. Rapists likely presume so, but presumably non-rapists wouldn't. If "sexy causes rape" were true, beaches would be mass rape centers, and prisoner and children rape victims would be sexy. Violence intrudes on sexuality. It does not result from it
That's a bit glib, I wonder how much though or questioning you've put into that assertion. It's understandable though because we're constantly subjected to cultural programming on the subject. Most must of just spit out the answers we're supposed to without much thought. You should examine the distinction that existed between the words -rape- and -ravish- historically to understand the significance to western culture.
it really bothers me that most of the comments that are seemingly siding with the would-be rapist are from guys. stop trying to explain or justify your rapist bros.
It's not false. There is something like victimology, and it teaches us, that some tape of people are more are more likely to become victims. For exemple my father was mugged three times. One time is bad luck, but three times is a pattern. He was never was careful, and he never make right decision, and as a result he was victimized more tham once.
The way a woman dresses is never ever an excuse for unwanted sex! But if you dress provocative don't be amazed by extensive male attention, the way you dress is (hopefully) a free choice. And what about the following statement, don't go dress up as a heterofile man in a bottomless pants into a gay darkroom. You are sending out the wrong signal. Use your clothing to send out the signal you want, but there is never an excuse for violated sex!!!!!!!!!!!!! Make your vocal NO rise above physical YES
i totally agree with her. a man knows damn well what he's doing when he rapes a women, it's not like he can't control himself. rapists do it because they want power over the victim, not because they're horny. women who are "slutty" just look like easy targets to them since other people may be less likely to believe them or support them if they tell the authorities what happened.
i totally agree with her. a man knows damn well what he's doing when he rapes a women, it's not like he can't control himself. rapists do it because they want power over the victim, not because they're horny. women who are "slutty" just look like easy targets to them since other people may be less likely to believe them or support them if they tell the authorities what happened.
There are also times when men are just being animals and that is a problem that baffles me. I just don't get how a man can get aroused when a woman is screaming, "NO!"
I had a GF who, I later learned, would go to parties, get shitfaced and strip for people in the party. At some point after one of the times that she had done this she was raped and she was, of course, traumatized by it. When I heard about this I just thought to myself: How stupid can a person be?
I agree with what R3aperD said up there. There are some subhuman criminals out there and most people generally try to not do things that get them into bad situations with these criminals.
Calling rape a crime of passion places the perspective in the favor of the assaulter. I find a similar example in the debate between rape is a sex crime instead of assault; looking at rape sexually views through the lens of the rapist, there is nothing sexual about rape for the one being attacked. I wonder how this perspective and phraseology effects legal and court procedure???
It is like women want attention from some, but not from others. Why does a woman dress like a slut in the first place??? If men weren't interested, she would not dress like that.
Imagine - if instead of boobs, all men in the world looked at the back of women's necks - I bet women would primp their necks!
A woman is partly responsible for the kind of attention and animalistic instincts she draws.
@Blip186 I'm saying she's not responsible. Any 'animalistic instincts' she draws as you so delicately put it, are not part of her responsibility. It's the responsibility of the Man who looks/gropes etc.
A woman may wear anything she wants, she can go naked in the street with a flag saying "Rape me!" for all I care. It is NEVER her responsibility. A bit stupid, maybe, but not her responsibility.
@Minecraft4life1000 Again, my point is about a woman's control over the attention she draws. NOT rape. I also understand that the criminal is the rapist and not the person who gets raped. But sadly there are quite a few animals in the society - look up sex offenders online in your town. Your logic will sound idealistic and far from reality. Of course, nothing stops anyone from drawing their attention.
@Blip186 A woman may want attention of this sort, they may like to feel pretty, to feel wanted. But really I, as a man, am disgusted that someone would tell me that I cannot keep it in my pants. That anyone could claim it is in any way the girls fault for dressing like that is really implying that men have no self-control.
That is by a long way the harshest criticism I have ever heard of any human male.
@Solensherre I nowhere used the word 'rape' in my comment. My comment was about a woman's control over the kind of attention she draws. Children and old women do not dress as sluts, but do get raped. I am quite aware that reason for rape has more to do with the rapist than the person that gets raped.
That being said, 'normal' people can't put themselves in the shoes of rapists and think why they would rape. Therefore there is no criticism of normal males either.
@Blip186 But that's jsut the point. It is not the womans fault. If you really want to dehumanize the rapist (as you do) that's something else entirely. But women want attention. Men want attention. Children want attention. No one wants to get raped. And we shouldn't give women ANY of the responsibility at all, because, let's face it, they dress well to impress the ones who don't want to rape them. If they get raped for this then it is as much our fault for liking hwo she dresses.
"Passion vs anger" is a bad argument (like matriarchy vs patriarchy BS). No high IQ man ever sanctioned it as the dichotomy around rape.
Females should be made to dress in a "well covered fashion" so as to limit their sexual value options. Ie so as to prevent them from emotionally abusing men. Nothing more nothing less. It has nothing to do with rape.
The 'clothing causing rape' thing is useful in a class trying to understand how BS ideas become the notions/false dichotomy of the day.
don't men get raped as well? I know that lubrication and erections are unconscious physical responses.
and don't women rape women as well? i heard of a documentary on that subject the doc went through multiple (like 5 or 6) cases and in only one was an instrument used (a bottle), fingers can be just as damaging as a penis.
therefore spontaneous rape of either a man or women can be performed by women, though most rapes would be committed by someone they would know (like an ex-partner).
I would have to say that it's not the victims "fault" for being dressed "slutty", But it's not like someone dressed slutty would be surprised that they're getting raped. Obviously if someone is raping people he's probably fucked up in the head, to say the least---Which makes it his / her fault either way, But I think it can be asked that female citizens have common decency.
I do agree that it's really stupid to blame the victim in that sense--But people will believe what they want. Cheers.
Pretty much all crime statistics report very little if any correlation between clothing and rape rates. With that in mind, slutwalk essentially fights a problem from a specific angle that does not exist.
I wouldn't mind a slutwalk just for the hell of it, though. :D
@eldrewto55 the slut walk wasn't fighing for legal rights, they were fighting for social rights. there's a social stigma that women who dress like that deserve to be raped. the law is doing the right thing, but our culture needs to change.
if dressing like a prostitute makes no difference to your chances of being raped, why are women doing this "slutwalk" thing in the first place? why do prostitutes bother dressing the way they do if it doesn't change how men see them?
You're right. It's the perpetrator. That being said I think we need to not criticize women's choice in clothing and instead criticize women's choice in men they give their scantily clad attention to.
This whole 'clothing' thing is plain wrong. However, this DOESN'T mean that women have no responsibility for preventing rape. There are CLEAR factors that increase one's risk of rape, set out here: doi.apa.org/journals/cou/34/2/186.pdf
If you choose to go out and get wasted, then walk home alone, or you take advantage of men by having them buy you dinner or drinks with no thought of actually having sex, YOU ARE PARTIALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR INCREASING YOUR RISK. Slutwalk was irresponsible.
@autumnzone1 in case the link doesn't work, google: "Date Rape and Sexual Aggression in Dating Situations: Incidence and Risk Factors"
Let me elaborate on why Slutwalk was irresponsible... Because it made the point that women can and should do nothing to help prevent rape, which is clearly false. Women should learn about the REAL risk factors and act on them! Also, we DO tell men to be careful; but the primary risks to men are not rape but murder and non-sexual assault.
Slutwalk, as well as this video, are utterly useless and heres why.
The whole "she was asking for it" idea is not some mainstream idea its being made out to be. While many people will attribute some blame to the victim based on the circumstances, very few will view that blame as substantial or as an excuse for rape. These few people are called misogynists. These people will not be persuaded otherwise and slutwalk sure as hell wont help.
@ModerateMadGenius I agree with the concept of slutwalk in that blaming the victim is in fact a bad thing, but the only reason this picked up any steam was because women got to drees like sluts for a cause, kinda like halloween. The idea is serious, but I fear most of the participants merely used the event as an excuse to act immaturely in public, and only hurt the cause they were walking for. Trying to offend or shock regular people on the street isnt the right way to make change.
This is why your wrong and why women should dress less slutty. Men, like myself, are mainly visually stimulated, so showing less skin is going to decrease your chances of being raped. And your comparison of Men not dressing slutty is poor, its more comparable to people wearing shark suits to not get bitten. Most guys can control themselves, some cant and are predators, like sharks. If your showing off your assets your essentially throwing blood in the water. Its not about blaming the victim!
Oh and also, you have the right to wear whatever you want. No one said you didn't. It doesn't follow that you have the right to not be raped by people who don't care about your rights, because we don't live in fantasy world.
@R3aperD "It's essentially the same as walking through a bad neighbourhood with hundred dollars bills sticking out of your pockets. Sad but true, bud."
no it isn't. if this were the case ugly people wearing conservative clothes wouldn't be getting raped, but it happens.
this has nothing to do with attractiveness and has everything to do with the exertion of power over another individual.
@R3aperD So you where asking to be mugged right? It's your fault you should have know better, huh? It's not the mugger's fault because how could he hope control himself with all that money hanging out of your pocket. I know exactly what you mean. Just like in Saudi where the women are forced to cover themselves from head to toe otherwise who knows what could happen. It's not like rapist are statistically more like to be someone you know(co-worker,friend,family) its always a random guy.
@R3aperD Firstly, are you seriously comparing a woman's body to a pile of cash? Secondly, it's not the fault of the person carrying the wallet if the money is stolen; it's the fault of the thief. Thirdly, it is extremely sexist against men to assume that the reason male rapists rape is because they cannot control themselves around women. And my fourth point: rape is not about sex and desire; it's about power and control.
Blaming the victim? You imply that we think rape should be ok if the woman was dressed like a slut. You sound like a fucking retard. The woman who the story is about was walking through a dangerous area, and got raped. That's not safe, but it simply brings attention to her when she's drunk and dressed like a slut. How is this not common sense? Also, men who dress like gangsters are more likely to get arrested. True fax, bro.
The vast majority of rapes are carried out by women, rape by deception, paint yourself to look beautiful when in truth you are not, use concealer to cover your blemishes, wear high heals to make your ass look nice, wear stockings to hide your cellulite, add a few drinks to the mix and you know you can fool him into bed. Rape is a crime yes, but women need to wake up to the fact that most rapists are women.
The video touched on nearly every point I would bring up. My favorite is the utter lack of response on men who are raped by other men. Also, do none of these guys understand that no matter how sexy she dresses, how much she flirts with you and comes onto you, "No" still means "No"? The second you try to force yourself, the blame is on you, no matter how much they "wanted it" or "deserved it".
If you're out there asking for it, and you get it, then dont cry rape just b/c you weren't held afterward. Rape is an overprosecuted crime that should be decriminalized
Do you think the no means no message has gone out by now? I'll admit, in some date rape incidents, "mixed messages" between partners might for all I know, honestly occur. The problem being that the man is supposed to take initiative in some people's minds. :O.
What about men who are raped by other men? The numbers are pretty amazing when you look at how many men are raped compared to women. Just Google it. I'm too lazy to paste them for you. So I guess men should just leave the high heels at home?
Sweetheart, if I had to stick my dick inside you, I would be the one getting raped. Get over your delusions of grandeur. Plenty of slutty-dressed women are in clubs every night wanting to get fucked like banshees.
Don't worry dear, no one wants to rape you. Much less have CONSENSUAL sex with you.
I live in a seaside resort town, where there are plenty of scantily clad women both during the day for the beach and during the night for clubbing and I've never been tempted to commit rape. I was raised by a mother that was not ashamed of her body, and the female form is a normal sight to me. Most cultures where women ARE raped for not covering up are those where seeing a female knee is scandalous (read islamic countries)
@healthyaddict I also think that sassy girl's dressing like sluts have no compassion for their lesser fortuned, in terms of looks, sisters. When you dress in tight trousers, and show your cleavage that is slutty. I love it, I think it is beautiful, but I think it is utterly cruel. Cruel towards other women less good looking, and cruel towards young men that get their heads twisted off. Fortunately I am so old now that I no longer are affected by sluts showing off their marvelous breasts.
The need for sex has similarities like the need for food, except that you don't die if you don't get it.
If you don't get to eat, your survival mode kicks in, you might think of steeling food or even kill the people forbids you to eat.
What will happen in a camp where there is famin, if you're parading with a giant turkey., not letting anybody to eat? You will get killed! You are in your right to carry this big turkey across the camp everyday, but is that kind of you?
Clothing or the lack there of as you say has nothing to do with rape. Go to a nudist beach and see how much rape there is there. I detected in your video a concern about other people being aware that you make videos. Why would you care?
@Vanesquick Spoken like a true pussy. If a broad walks down the street naked and she's fuck worthy, then she's gonna get it. Period. And she's not raped
Fun fact: women cannot be topless in public UNLESS (as ruled by the supreme court a few years ago) THEY ARE PROTESTING (or SAY they are protesting) NOT BEING ABLE TO BE TOPLESS IN PUBLIC.
Just thought I might offer this loophole to anyone who hadn't heard it.
Great vid. (I'm going to bring up burkas the next time I'm debating someone on this topic. Thanks for pointing out that double-standard :)
Never did understand the "look at the way she's dressed" argument. Or even a history of casual and indiscriminate affairs doesn't justify or mitigate rape. Why is anyone asking this question? Because some jackasses don't take no for an answer. Is it as simple as that? Yes.
@MrgaTres1 Presumtuous, are we? Well, I'm not afraid to be wrong. If I am, I am. However, I'm not ignorant of the abuse men experience b/c of the roles forced upon them, and am aware that some feminists are total bitches. I'll check out that channel later with an open mind.
@MegaTress1 And while you're doing that, also realize that "feminists" or at leasts the ones I've seen (again, on the internet... as it's difficult to come across that sort of thing IRL) are actually for gender equality. The term feminism is off-putting, but their aim isn't for female superiority or for men to feel the shame women have felt and still feel. At least, from what I've seen. I am sorry for your suffering though. As a women I also have never unappreciated men being spat on.
I'm a guy and would not rape a girl no matter how naked she was. I might make eye contact, engage in conversation to see if shes available and shamelessly check her out - but that's because I have an animal side, so does everyone else and I will never be ashamed of it. I think rape (not the fetish type where its role-playing and person is ok with it) but actual rape as an act of forced sex is uncool. One of the uncool-est crimes.
@jojokerus Maybe you shouldn't leave your fancy car with the keys in the ignition in the middle of a bad neighborhood. oh wait, THAT'S SEXIST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!#@U!*(!*(@!*(#U
I have no intention of causing any discomfort, but you're pretty cute, had to find something to do while listening to fully focus on the subject. ^.^;
Wow... How about people blame, oh I dunno, the people RAPING SOMEONE ELSE!? It can NEVER be someone's fault they got raped. NEVER. I don't care if you're nude or dressed like an eskimo. If you don't consent, then its rape and not your fault. If you consent, then you wanted it and there's no issue. This is a clear issue that I don't understand why people can't see as clearly. Its about stomping on someone's right to be left alone. PLAIN AND FUCKIN' SIMPLE. Don't agree? You're probably a rapist.
@MrNthDegree I did not know that there was this equality in Britain. Where I live, it is legal for a man to walk in the park, or down the street, mow the lawn, paint the fence or go swimming in the city pool etc topless, but a woman cannot legally do so. It is discriminatory, and sexist!
At least in your location the law applies to both sexes equally, and that is a good thing. Not every male or female here would even want to go top-free, but the law should be gender blind on the matter.
@HiddenRainful No, you think that the world is too lenient on criminals, and THAT makes you ignorant. You see, when we form a mob mentality against a criminal or criminal class, the only thing we accomplish is the social destruction and humiliation of those criminals. We don't make any progress at all when it comes to solving the real problem... in this case, rape. And when you're not working to solve the problem, it gets worse. We pay to put them in prison? Its about rehabilitation, not revenge
@NASTEfilms I'm all for rehabilitation if it has results, but there needs to be punishment. You don't understand the psychology of "aversion". That's why sexual abuse of children is so common in government institutions, because if a "staff member" or a "Psychyatrist" molests a child who's locked in a government institution, they know they will get away with it if found out, they will pay a fine at WORST. The fear of prison itself can and does prevent rape (cont.)
(cont.) the problem isn't that we "judge people" and I'm tired of hearing that. Liberals and conservatives have no empathy. Conservatives want to call everybody a "sex offender" or a "terrorist" and then liberals think we just need more "understanding" for REAL sex offenders and terrorists.
The problem is we're judging the WRONG people. We shouldn't be locking up 18 year old girls who have sex with 17 year olds. But we SHOULD lock up real pedophiles who act on their urges. (cont.)
(3) We also need to reform prison BIG time. We can NOT allow male "staff" to do strip searches on female inmates, especially teen girls (eew), some of whom are NOT IN PRISON FOR ANY CRIME BUT ARE IN "FOSTER CARE". This is bull shit. There is no reason they need to be restrained for not dressing the right way, and we need REVENGE, not "understanding" for evil adults who work in institutions, as well as the "pedophile" on the street, to make it stop.
P.S. I meant children in psychiatric facilities are restrained and given electric shocks for having their shirts untucked, and the government knows about it and has failed to do anything, except the Judge Rotenburg Center which may likely get shut down some time. Those children deserve to have some vengeance fulfilled because what they have been through surpasses ANYTHING their tormentors would suffer even if they were sent to Guantanamo Bay.
@KingRadbadical1988 vengeance is for video games and movies not real life. It's not about being a dreamer and wanting the whole world to live in peace, it's about logic and reason.
@NASTEfilms How do you STOP pedophiles? Physically stop them. Answer me. I need a real answer as to what exactly we do to prevent children from getting molested. How does "education" work? In some cases physically separating a child from his or her tormentor is the ONLY way of preventing further abuse, even if force needs to be used. Would you agree with me on that, even if its only done to keep the child safe and not for "revenge"?
And even then, how do you "educate" someone who abuses children, not to abuse them any more, when we already LIVE in a society that is OBSESSED with this sex offender witch hunt? That's the problem with it, is people are so busy putting 18 year olds in prison for having sex with 17 year olds, and putting teenagers in prison for making out with each other, I don't know if actual active pedophiles even get punished any more. This is NOT justice. But that doesn't mean justice CAN'T exist.
And there has to be SOME kind of...SOMETHING in place to discourage others from committing crimes.
I mean, what kind of "education" are you talking about? Surely you don't mean bringing a chalkboard into the house of a serial killer and writing down on it in front of him, "It isn't nice to kill people". I know that's not what you mean but I need a real description of what you mean by "education". Surely there must be SOME aversive or "corrective" treatment to discourage it from happening again
@KingRadbadical1988 Actually, I didn't say anything about "education". And yes, we need to reform our penal system to "rehabilitate" people, which is exactly what corrective treatment is.
@NASTEfilms But when it comes to institutional abuse: Those people should just be killed because the risk of them doing the same thing all over again is too high.
These are people who make over $60,000 a year, come from privileged white collar backgrounds, they have perfect normal lives, and yet they restrain and beat helpless kids while screaming in their faces, and they have EVERY chance to hear the child's cries of rage and agony and let them free but choose not to. They can't be rehabilit
@NASTEfilms It isn't. But there has to be SOME pain they go through in prison because education doesn't work for EVERYBODY. I mean you can't possibly tell me you don't see a problem in having inch thick carpet and velvet lined curtains and sheets in every cell, and XBox360s and flat screen tvs
I mean there has to be a point where you ADMIT "Yes, this is mostly for rehab/education, but come on, we wanna see them go through SOME shit while they're in there".
@NASTEfilms Even if you don't believe prisoners should get raped or beaten, you still gotta admit that there would be SOME punishment. I mean you're not sending them to disney land are you? No you're sending them to a CELL. Even "rehabilitave" prisons wouldn't work if there wasn't SOME element of "punishment" within them.
So nothings 100%. Civilized countries don't use corporal punishment on prisoners unless the prisoner is actually being violent or maybe if its some guy who tortured children
@KingRadbadical1988 No, the punishment is being in a CELL and having no personal freedoms, along with a dictated schedual and communal showers, etc. Of course their not going to enjoy it. If that's not enough, don't forget that prisoners rape EACHOTHER. The point is, inrprisonment for punishment just doesn't work. Look at our penal system. It's a fucking disaster
@NASTEfilms I HATE THIS. Every time I get in a debate with somebody and try to argue reasonable points or ask questions to someone who makes a comment, EVERY TIME, I just ask a question, and they say "i'm getting tired of this" or "you're still commenting on this?"
Its always someone who "doesn't care" about whatever they're talking about, calling me a loser for explaining myself on youtube comments. Always happens.
I'm just asking what type of "education" are you talking about
@NASTEfilms And wow you publish films? I thought you'd have more respect for debate then that.
You obviously don't care much about criminal justice or about sexual assault since you're just laughing in my face, basically, when I have a serious interest in both those things. Talking about all of these things is the way for society to figure out a way to solve all our problems. Your word has no credit if you get defensive every time someone asks you to be specific
You belong to a menial subgroup of right-wing, anti-intellectual human beings with radical and provocative ideals which you ejaculate into the grand forum of Youtube so that you may provoke other idealist induviduals with beliefs contrary to your own, all in the efforts to strengthen an ideology which disguises its bigoted and ridiculous principals as "Godly" and "truth"
@NASTEfilms YOU FUCKING PIECE OF FAGGOT SHIT, OKAY NOW I'M GONNA CALL YOU OUT ON YOUR SHIT. I'M A FUCKING ATHEIST, OKAY? YES ITS WORKING, ITS WORKING GREAT, THE FACT THAT ALL YOU'RE DOING IS CALLING ME NAMES AND MAKING ASSUMPTIONS ABOUT ME PROVES WHAT A GOD DAMN MORON YOU REALLY FUCKING ARE YOU PIECE OF FUCKING FILTH, I CRITISIZED THE WAR IN A ROOM FULL OF 20 REDNECKS YOU LITTLE BITCH SO DON'T TELL ME ABOUT "RIGHT WING ANTI-INTELLECTUAL" BULLSHIT, I HATE HOW INCORRECT ALL MY TROLLS ARE.
@NASTEfilms And if I won the argument THEN I WAS RIGHT OBVIOUSLY. "GETTING A BONER FROM WINNING AN ARGUMENT" STFU IF I REALLY "WON" THE ARGUMENT THEN YOU SHOULD STFU AND WALK AWAY DEFEATED AND BECOME A WISER PERSON FROM ADMITTING YOU WERE WRONG. NOT MAKE FUCKING CHILDISH ASS ASSUMPTIONS.
God damn I'm not even a conservative you piece of shit, "godly"? What god damn world are you living in I'm so sick of this bullshit.
Prison inmates all dress exactly the same way in ugly, unflattering clothes and it sure doesn't protect them from being raped. So how provocative you are has nothing to do with it.
@HiddenRainful - of course not, but if one decides to walk naked through a viagra convention, one might suppose one's risk factors might have just increased. A rape would not be "justified" under any circumstances, but "more likely" might be accurate.
Like - if one walks down a dark alley with $100 bills hanging out of one's pockets. Doesn't justify theft, but.....
I think the blame the victim thing comes from the fact that rape perps often believe that their victim actually likes and wants what's going on. The blame the victim thing comes from other males having sympathy for the rape perpetrator for this reason. Which is okay. Not necessarily right, but okay.
I would definitely say to a male that a male should not dress too slutty to protect himself from being raped. First, men don't really have a "slutty" manner of dress - and if a man goes out with ball huggers, and legs, stomach and everything but penis and balls and string up the ass, and walks into a gay bar, if he got raped, I am sure many people would ask what he was doing in there dressed like that.
I think it's pretty clear:
Me dressing skimpy = legal
You raping = illegal
Any questions?
razzlefrog 5 days ago
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i agree that there should be less shaming associated with sexual activity. people have tried to make me feel guilty for committing "rape" and have tried to "rehabilitate" me. I will not let the guilt-mongers and moralists convert me into a weak, domesticated creatures they are themselves. morality is just a human coping mechanism in a harsh world. i reject their morality and am not the least bit ashamed of the things I have done.
thepotatovagina 1 week ago
why is nobody getting raped )':
Mushulous 4 weeks ago
The thing about most rapists being someone the victim knows is so true. I know someone who was raped and abused by both her brother and her uncle for years. They still aren't in prison because the police couldn't find enough evidence or some shit like that. She never once dressed provocatively but has been lead to believe by her family (especially her mother) that it's all her fault. It's sick.
MissLuvMovies 1 month ago
Expected forms of dress for the sexes play into this. Women are expected to dress in tight clothing, wear make-up, have certain hairstyles and hair colors, and to reveal varying amounts of skin depending on the situation.
Men experience this, too, and generally, men's clothing and appearance are heavily de-sexualized for the most part when compared to fashion and hairstyles deemed appropriate for women in the same situations. Even in swimwear and underwear. I'll provide an example.
indigothecat 1 month ago
@indigothecat I once had some of my friends who were young adult women brose through a name-brand men's underwear catalogue, you might call the styles it provides as "minimalist" or "metro" and "stylish. These women also identified as Christians.
They thought, despite the male models being in extremely good shape and well-groomed, that the underwear was too girly, or "feminine" or that it was gross and looked wrong. Men's fashion is expected to desexualize them, and they didn't...
indigothecat 1 month ago
@indigothecat ...like the men being exposed and showing off their beautiful bodies and wearing little clothing, and clothing that emphasized their bodies.
indigothecat 1 month ago
The whole "blaming the victim" argument is just as insulting to men; by providing the bizarre assumption that all men are roaming the streets like fucking reavers looking to rape women showing more than an inch of skin.
ManufacturedLegions 1 month ago 4
@DesBlackmore It's not an ideology that I'm following you moron. It's facts, supported from decades of crime statistics and backed by every professional in the field. And you still have yet to explain how the sober women in burkhas get abducted and raped, often in the daytime. You have a gut reaction that you feel makes you right, and nothing else. Your "precautions" don't do fuck all for preventing rape. You're just another victim-blaming imbecile without a clue.
Lesterfinnigan 1 month ago
the title of this video is very misleading LOL.
SomedaysDreamersBC 1 month ago
If rape had anything to do with how little someone wore people at nudist colonies would always get raped and girls with burkas never would. But btw, it happens to be the EXACT OPPOSITE.
In Egypt where women all wear burkas the rape rate is about 86% of women. It's because of MISOGYNY.
spilledinsanity 1 month ago
@DesBlackmore Yes women should not be allowed to walk around alone bcause they aren't being safe against rape. Don't you realize how absolutely degrading that is? You clearly are not a woman, or else you'd know how fucking dehumanizing it feels that it is still taboo for you to go outside alone. Ever take into consideration that maybe they can fight? Or that they may have a weapon. on top of that most rapes occur in the home by people they know. There is no actual precaution.
spilledinsanity 1 month ago
you're so right
hot6235 2 months ago
show your titties bitch
dangeruss 2 months ago
@DesBlackmore This is my point: THERE IS NO PRECAUTION THAT PREVENTS RAPE. Women in burkhas who are stone sober get abducted off the street in broad daylight and get raped. How the fuck were they supposed to prevent that? Rapists are looking for a female. That is it. They will make it work one way or another, clothing means nothing, mental state means nothing, how many people in her group means nothing because he can still follow her home and see where she lives. You are wrong, deal with it.
Lesterfinnigan 2 months ago
If I wear a suit with $100 bills taped to my suit, and I walk downtown at night, is it my fault if someone rips one of those bills off my suit? Aren't you victim blaming?
Think about it.
shmiggen 2 months ago
@shmiggen the fact that a woman who does that is blamed, but a man is not is sexist. no one says "he got raped? well, he shouldn't have dressed provocitively."
hot6235 2 months ago
@hot6235 not true. men are raped in prison all the time, and the consistent response is, "oh well, too bad so sad".
shmiggen 2 months ago 2
I want to walk through the Ghetto's nform and screaming white power, is it my fault I get stabbed? No, but it was still a stupid thing to do.
Andsormida01 2 months ago in playlist rape
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@Andsormida01 the fact that a woman who does that is blamed, but a man is not is sexist. no one says "he got raped? well, he shouldn't have dressed provocitively."
hot6235 2 months ago
Now that would be like me, Dave Chappelle, the comedian, walking down the street in a cop uniform. Somebody might run up on me, saying, "Oh, thank God. Officer, help us! Come on. They're over here. Help us!" "Oh-hoh! Just because I'm dressed this way does not make me a police officer!" See what I mean? All right, ladies, fine. You are not a whore. But you are wearing a whore's uniform.
lashkaretoiba 2 months ago
@lashkaretoiba that's something created by society, in other cultures, a woman can walk around naked, or in a sexy outfit and she's praised for having a beautiful body. our culture has social prejudice against women. if a woman IS looking for sex, then give hr sex, don't rape her, unfortuatley people don't know the difference between rape and sex. if she says no, perhaps you're ugly and she was hoping to hook up with a hot guy. if a guy shows off his flesh, is that a hoe's uniform
hot6235 2 months ago
The girl says "Oh uh-uh, wait a minute! Wait a minute! Just because I'm dressed this way does not make me a whore!" Which is true. Gentlemen, that is true. Just because they dress a certain way doesn't mean they are a certain way. Don't ever forget it. But ladies, you must understand that is fucking confusing. It just is.
lashkaretoiba 2 months ago
@lashkaretoiba if a guy dresses like a certin way, is he wearing a hoe's unifirm? and what is this to do with rape? rape is violently attacking someone else. if a woman is looking for a hook up, then give he sex, don't rape her. yo might be thinking, "how is that possible?" it's cuz hardly anyone knows the difference between sex and rape. if she dresses a certin way, that doesn't mean she deserves to be violently attacked. even if she says yes to sex, she can be violently attacked
hot6235 2 months ago
Why is "Sex ass girl tits x sluts porn nude sarkozy les..." on the right? Hmm, perhaps it's a constructive relative video on morals and values over socially acceptable opinions!
*Clicks link*
WHAT HAS BEEN SEEN CAN NOT BE UN SEEN
Somuchnonsense 2 months ago
It's not rape if you yell: Surprise!
sonykroket 3 months ago
I fucking LOVE sluts! They're the mostest fun type of chicks to hang around with, AND they like to fuck which is a bonus!
arjoj10 3 months ago 9
She's so ugly and fat she's asking to get raped? Typical liberal.
happyninslave 3 months ago
@DesBlackmore "(not going out alone, dressing modestly) the chances of her getting rape will, naturally, be lower. " that's still not true. Just because you keep writing it over and over again. Criminology established that you are wrong. They have research material and statistics, all you have is your own sobjective opinion on it and no actual proof.
kyromani 3 months ago
@DesBlackmore You can argue all you want about the woman somehow bringing it on herself, but mental health professionals and criminologists all say you are wrong. These aren't feminist blowhards saying this, they're highly educated professionals who study this sort of thing as a career.
Even your lock and camera example is useless. If someone wants your stuff enough to steal it, it's well known that they don't care about locks or cameras, they will bust a window and wear a damn mask.
Lesterfinnigan 3 months ago
@DesBlackmore Do you even have an idea of what the most common rapes are? Most occur in the home, most rapists are known by the victim. Most rapists don't give a shit how the woman is dressed. Stone sober women in burkas get raped. The girl in your example would be far more likely to get all the way home and dress into her pajamas before the rape occured by someone who already knew her than get raped in an alleyway. Victim blaming is moronic in any case where a person is choosing to attack them.
Lesterfinnigan 3 months ago
@DesBlackmore Women in burkas get raped. There is pretty much no way of dressing, acting or looking that will stop rapists. And it's not women who are saying "rape is about power", criminologists are. Because it's true. Heterosexual males rape other males in prison. It's not a matter of anyone "thinking too hard", it's a matter of morons blaming the victim. By your logic no one should buy anything worth stealing since it will inevitably draw the attention of a thief who will want to steal it.
Lesterfinnigan 3 months ago
@DesBlackmore You're right. I don't understand how these women can say rape is never about sex or the way a women is dressed. Rape can be about ANYTHING. Rape can also be about a fetish. A rapist could have an ankle sock fetish and go after girls wearing ankle socks, or tattoos, or blue hair, or anything. Even the sound of high heels clicking on pavement can drive a rapist wild. Anything can trigger rape, from slutty clothes to church clothes. And yes, it's usually a power thing, but not always.
carlinsaves 3 months ago
@DesBlackmore That's not true, it's a total rape myth
kyromani 3 months ago
why are you an hour early ??
LaLaProductions101 3 months ago
Wow, sooooo many people don't get this it's scary. No wonder women get raped.
If you jump in shark infested waters covered in blood & chum then you can expect bad things to happen. You can only equate women deserving to be raped by going out with friends getting drunk in a short skirt if you're willing to concede some brutal things about men & society. I mean some hopelessly brutal sad things. The west is not some fucking village in a 3rd world Islamic Theocracy. Real men simply can't rape.
TheNarcMan 4 months ago
Oh god @healthyaddict your an athiest? thats a nother can of worms.lol nutjob much? sorry but nothing your saying is accurate at all anyone with common Sense knows no matter what sex you are! if you dont want something bad do happen you dont PROVOKE and increase the chances. someone who is not attractive and gets raped its a whole nother thing its just some dude whos looney tunes
Movieworldexpress 4 months ago
@Movieworldexpress
Haha! i think you're the nut-job sorry, but nothing your saying is accurate please learn how too spell words correctly btw
goofygooberaustin 3 months ago
@goofygooberaustin goofygoobertard your a fucking idiot nothing your saying is even remotley correct get a girlfreind and a life douche.lol
Movieworldexpress 3 months ago
@Movieworldexpress
If you didn't understand what i just said, than i believe YOU would be the fucking idiot.
It was clear, and also don't tell me too "get a girlfriend" :Haha i have one already unlike your ignorant ass, and i "dont have too get a life" i already have one "lol" Douche fuck off
goofygooberaustin 3 months ago
@goofygooberaustin sorry you fucking loser i was talking about a real girlfreind not the one in your head!lol fuck off single loser buhbye! lmao
Movieworldexpress 3 months ago
as demeaning as the fallacy that how a woman dresses can lead to or justify rape is to women, it is a hundred times more demeaning and insulting to men. this implies that as a man i have so little conrol over my animalistic urges that just seeing a sexually attractive woman is too much for my wittle bwain, and it also proves that muslims are the worst of religionists- theyre apparently so weak and immature that thier women have to be covered from head to toe or they just cant help themselves
13DocReason 4 months ago
I agree, I think it's both men's fault for being so darn horny and violent (genetic disadvantages in our current societies) (but not the individuals' fault, they can't help that they were born male), and the culture's fault that allows women to dress in a way that is provoking men's sexual drives. It's also the society's fault for not having good enough ways to deal with men's tendency toward violence and their hard-wired extreme sexual drives.
DukeTwicep 4 months ago
The false equivalence between "rapability" and attractiveness is an interpretive failure. Being or dressing sexy does not warrant rape (as nothing does), so why associate the two? Sexuality can attract attention but in no way inherently induces violence. Rapists likely presume so, but presumably non-rapists wouldn't. If "sexy causes rape" were true, beaches would be mass rape centers, and prisoner and children rape victims would be sexy. Violence intrudes on sexuality. It does not result from it
Whatistobe 4 months ago
Rape = anger != passion?
That's a bit glib, I wonder how much though or questioning you've put into that assertion. It's understandable though because we're constantly subjected to cultural programming on the subject. Most must of just spit out the answers we're supposed to without much thought. You should examine the distinction that existed between the words -rape- and -ravish- historically to understand the significance to western culture.
aobaitofan 4 months ago
it really bothers me that most of the comments that are seemingly siding with the would-be rapist are from guys. stop trying to explain or justify your rapist bros.
AudiGal09 4 months ago
It's not false. There is something like victimology, and it teaches us, that some tape of people are more are more likely to become victims. For exemple my father was mugged three times. One time is bad luck, but three times is a pattern. He was never was careful, and he never make right decision, and as a result he was victimized more tham once.
1701EarlGrey 4 months ago
The way a woman dresses is never ever an excuse for unwanted sex! But if you dress provocative don't be amazed by extensive male attention, the way you dress is (hopefully) a free choice. And what about the following statement, don't go dress up as a heterofile man in a bottomless pants into a gay darkroom. You are sending out the wrong signal. Use your clothing to send out the signal you want, but there is never an excuse for violated sex!!!!!!!!!!!!! Make your vocal NO rise above physical YES
leroidelarue1 5 months ago
i totally agree with her. a man knows damn well what he's doing when he rapes a women, it's not like he can't control himself. rapists do it because they want power over the victim, not because they're horny. women who are "slutty" just look like easy targets to them since other people may be less likely to believe them or support them if they tell the authorities what happened.
TheMorningStar1991 5 months ago
i totally agree with her. a man knows damn well what he's doing when he rapes a women, it's not like he can't control himself. rapists do it because they want power over the victim, not because they're horny. women who are "slutty" just look like easy targets to them since other people may be less likely to believe them or support them if they tell the authorities what happened.
TheMorningStar1991 5 months ago
There are also times when men are just being animals and that is a problem that baffles me. I just don't get how a man can get aroused when a woman is screaming, "NO!"
So.... WTF is wrong with these men?
idontcare80 5 months ago
I had a GF who, I later learned, would go to parties, get shitfaced and strip for people in the party. At some point after one of the times that she had done this she was raped and she was, of course, traumatized by it. When I heard about this I just thought to myself: How stupid can a person be?
I agree with what R3aperD said up there. There are some subhuman criminals out there and most people generally try to not do things that get them into bad situations with these criminals.
idontcare80 5 months ago
No I don't want to rape you stop asking me GOSH
pythor2 5 months ago
Calling rape a crime of passion places the perspective in the favor of the assaulter. I find a similar example in the debate between rape is a sex crime instead of assault; looking at rape sexually views through the lens of the rapist, there is nothing sexual about rape for the one being attacked. I wonder how this perspective and phraseology effects legal and court procedure???
Debordsbullet 5 months ago
That title is very misleading.
StanBergman 5 months ago
It is like women want attention from some, but not from others. Why does a woman dress like a slut in the first place??? If men weren't interested, she would not dress like that.
Imagine - if instead of boobs, all men in the world looked at the back of women's necks - I bet women would primp their necks!
A woman is partly responsible for the kind of attention and animalistic instincts she draws.
Blip186 5 months ago
@Blip186 Bullshit. She is not responsible.
Minecraft4life1000 5 months ago
@Minecraft4life1000 And your argument is?
Blip186 5 months ago
@Blip186 I'm saying she's not responsible. Any 'animalistic instincts' she draws as you so delicately put it, are not part of her responsibility. It's the responsibility of the Man who looks/gropes etc.
A woman may wear anything she wants, she can go naked in the street with a flag saying "Rape me!" for all I care. It is NEVER her responsibility. A bit stupid, maybe, but not her responsibility.
Minecraft4life1000 5 months ago
@Minecraft4life1000 Again, my point is about a woman's control over the attention she draws. NOT rape. I also understand that the criminal is the rapist and not the person who gets raped. But sadly there are quite a few animals in the society - look up sex offenders online in your town. Your logic will sound idealistic and far from reality. Of course, nothing stops anyone from drawing their attention.
Blip186 5 months ago
@Blip186 In what fantasy world of yours is the woman responsible?
Diamond123682 5 months ago
@Diamond123682 I did provide an argument in my comment. Did you read?
Blip186 5 months ago
@Blip186 I did. And I agree with @Minecraft4life1000
Diamond123682 5 months ago
@Blip186 A woman may want attention of this sort, they may like to feel pretty, to feel wanted. But really I, as a man, am disgusted that someone would tell me that I cannot keep it in my pants. That anyone could claim it is in any way the girls fault for dressing like that is really implying that men have no self-control.
That is by a long way the harshest criticism I have ever heard of any human male.
Solensherre 5 months ago
@Solensherre I nowhere used the word 'rape' in my comment. My comment was about a woman's control over the kind of attention she draws. Children and old women do not dress as sluts, but do get raped. I am quite aware that reason for rape has more to do with the rapist than the person that gets raped.
That being said, 'normal' people can't put themselves in the shoes of rapists and think why they would rape. Therefore there is no criticism of normal males either.
Blip186 5 months ago
@Blip186 But that's jsut the point. It is not the womans fault. If you really want to dehumanize the rapist (as you do) that's something else entirely. But women want attention. Men want attention. Children want attention. No one wants to get raped. And we shouldn't give women ANY of the responsibility at all, because, let's face it, they dress well to impress the ones who don't want to rape them. If they get raped for this then it is as much our fault for liking hwo she dresses.
Solensherre 5 months ago 15
@Solensherre YES!
AudiGal09 4 months ago
"Passion vs anger" is a bad argument (like matriarchy vs patriarchy BS). No high IQ man ever sanctioned it as the dichotomy around rape.
Females should be made to dress in a "well covered fashion" so as to limit their sexual value options. Ie so as to prevent them from emotionally abusing men. Nothing more nothing less. It has nothing to do with rape.
The 'clothing causing rape' thing is useful in a class trying to understand how BS ideas become the notions/false dichotomy of the day.
SeanMacCloud 5 months ago
No. I do not want to rape you. None of us do. Stop asking us.
The1stPoster 5 months ago
don't men get raped as well? I know that lubrication and erections are unconscious physical responses.
and don't women rape women as well? i heard of a documentary on that subject the doc went through multiple (like 5 or 6) cases and in only one was an instrument used (a bottle), fingers can be just as damaging as a penis.
therefore spontaneous rape of either a man or women can be performed by women, though most rapes would be committed by someone they would know (like an ex-partner).
EVERYVERSER 5 months ago
lol at 4:10 no one would want to rape you you ugly shit
JK
DuskfallBand 5 months ago
YOU FUCKING WHORE COME AT ME IMMA RAPE YOU
jk
DuskfallBand 5 months ago
At least the woman is saying "I want to be raped because it's my thing, please rape me", it's a no go.
ArtypNk 5 months ago
rape = non-consensual sexual contact.
consensual rape = ???
EVERYVERSER 5 months ago
I would have to say that it's not the victims "fault" for being dressed "slutty", But it's not like someone dressed slutty would be surprised that they're getting raped. Obviously if someone is raping people he's probably fucked up in the head, to say the least---Which makes it his / her fault either way, But I think it can be asked that female citizens have common decency.
I do agree that it's really stupid to blame the victim in that sense--But people will believe what they want. Cheers.
magxsnyp3r 5 months ago
Pretty much all crime statistics report very little if any correlation between clothing and rape rates. With that in mind, slutwalk essentially fights a problem from a specific angle that does not exist.
I wouldn't mind a slutwalk just for the hell of it, though. :D
eldrewto55 6 months ago 2
@eldrewto55 the slut walk wasn't fighing for legal rights, they were fighting for social rights. there's a social stigma that women who dress like that deserve to be raped. the law is doing the right thing, but our culture needs to change.
hot6235 2 months ago
You WISH you could be a slut. Keep dreaming.
JesusManson323 6 months ago
Ugh...typical chubby chick that pretends to know it all in class.....
Acroix707 6 months ago
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Acroix707 6 months ago
if dressing like a prostitute makes no difference to your chances of being raped, why are women doing this "slutwalk" thing in the first place? why do prostitutes bother dressing the way they do if it doesn't change how men see them?
terrasweet 6 months ago
You're right. It's the perpetrator. That being said I think we need to not criticize women's choice in clothing and instead criticize women's choice in men they give their scantily clad attention to.
Mammon08 6 months ago
This whole 'clothing' thing is plain wrong. However, this DOESN'T mean that women have no responsibility for preventing rape. There are CLEAR factors that increase one's risk of rape, set out here: doi.apa.org/journals/cou/34/2/186.pdf
If you choose to go out and get wasted, then walk home alone, or you take advantage of men by having them buy you dinner or drinks with no thought of actually having sex, YOU ARE PARTIALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR INCREASING YOUR RISK. Slutwalk was irresponsible.
autumnzone1 6 months ago
@autumnzone1 in case the link doesn't work, google: "Date Rape and Sexual Aggression in Dating Situations: Incidence and Risk Factors"
Let me elaborate on why Slutwalk was irresponsible... Because it made the point that women can and should do nothing to help prevent rape, which is clearly false. Women should learn about the REAL risk factors and act on them! Also, we DO tell men to be careful; but the primary risks to men are not rape but murder and non-sexual assault.
autumnzone1 6 months ago
Lol college bitches are so crazy
WeSmokeTree 6 months ago
Slutwalk, as well as this video, are utterly useless and heres why.
The whole "she was asking for it" idea is not some mainstream idea its being made out to be. While many people will attribute some blame to the victim based on the circumstances, very few will view that blame as substantial or as an excuse for rape. These few people are called misogynists. These people will not be persuaded otherwise and slutwalk sure as hell wont help.
ModerateMadGenius 6 months ago
@ModerateMadGenius I agree with the concept of slutwalk in that blaming the victim is in fact a bad thing, but the only reason this picked up any steam was because women got to drees like sluts for a cause, kinda like halloween. The idea is serious, but I fear most of the participants merely used the event as an excuse to act immaturely in public, and only hurt the cause they were walking for. Trying to offend or shock regular people on the street isnt the right way to make change.
ModerateMadGenius 6 months ago
This is why your wrong and why women should dress less slutty. Men, like myself, are mainly visually stimulated, so showing less skin is going to decrease your chances of being raped. And your comparison of Men not dressing slutty is poor, its more comparable to people wearing shark suits to not get bitten. Most guys can control themselves, some cant and are predators, like sharks. If your showing off your assets your essentially throwing blood in the water. Its not about blaming the victim!
MegaManVolnutt97 6 months ago
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MegaManVolnutt97 6 months ago
what ever you think 'addict' rape is natural and occurs in nature.
MonyOoOo 6 months ago
Why is it always ugly girls who always complain about rape?
xeduard00 6 months ago
Oh and also, you have the right to wear whatever you want. No one said you didn't. It doesn't follow that you have the right to not be raped by people who don't care about your rights, because we don't live in fantasy world.
evitanigaminU 6 months ago
men don't go about with their dick hanging out though - they're already covered up -.-
women however go about with everything hanging out and showing and then have the audacity to complain when someone gives you attention because of it
also, saying it could be preventable isn't blaming the victim, it's stating that they're an idiot
HelloIAmDaniel 6 months ago
It's essentially the same as walking through a bad neighbourhood with hundred dollars bills sticking out of your pockets. Sad but true, bud.
R3aperD 6 months ago 11
@R3aperD "It's essentially the same as walking through a bad neighbourhood with hundred dollars bills sticking out of your pockets. Sad but true, bud."
no it isn't. if this were the case ugly people wearing conservative clothes wouldn't be getting raped, but it happens.
this has nothing to do with attractiveness and has everything to do with the exertion of power over another individual.
Rabsputin 5 months ago
@R3aperD So you where asking to be mugged right? It's your fault you should have know better, huh? It's not the mugger's fault because how could he hope control himself with all that money hanging out of your pocket. I know exactly what you mean. Just like in Saudi where the women are forced to cover themselves from head to toe otherwise who knows what could happen. It's not like rapist are statistically more like to be someone you know(co-worker,friend,family) its always a random guy.
Moh5Itachi1 4 months ago
@R3aperD Firstly, are you seriously comparing a woman's body to a pile of cash? Secondly, it's not the fault of the person carrying the wallet if the money is stolen; it's the fault of the thief. Thirdly, it is extremely sexist against men to assume that the reason male rapists rape is because they cannot control themselves around women. And my fourth point: rape is not about sex and desire; it's about power and control.
WarmLittleDiamond90 4 months ago
#1- your a slut
#2-you used that title just to get views
#3-op is a fag
TheSoccerbboy 6 months ago
Blaming the victim? You imply that we think rape should be ok if the woman was dressed like a slut. You sound like a fucking retard. The woman who the story is about was walking through a dangerous area, and got raped. That's not safe, but it simply brings attention to her when she's drunk and dressed like a slut. How is this not common sense? Also, men who dress like gangsters are more likely to get arrested. True fax, bro.
evitanigaminU 6 months ago
The vast majority of rapes are carried out by women, rape by deception, paint yourself to look beautiful when in truth you are not, use concealer to cover your blemishes, wear high heals to make your ass look nice, wear stockings to hide your cellulite, add a few drinks to the mix and you know you can fool him into bed. Rape is a crime yes, but women need to wake up to the fact that most rapists are women.
Bananayoghurt1000 6 months ago
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ukgreaterlondon 6 months ago
Some of the most stupid comments I have heard by a feminist on youtube feature in this upload
apekillssnake 6 months ago
The video touched on nearly every point I would bring up. My favorite is the utter lack of response on men who are raped by other men. Also, do none of these guys understand that no matter how sexy she dresses, how much she flirts with you and comes onto you, "No" still means "No"? The second you try to force yourself, the blame is on you, no matter how much they "wanted it" or "deserved it".
Vornesoul 6 months ago
If you're out there asking for it, and you get it, then dont cry rape just b/c you weren't held afterward. Rape is an overprosecuted crime that should be decriminalized
Vergadoce 6 months ago
Do you think the no means no message has gone out by now? I'll admit, in some date rape incidents, "mixed messages" between partners might for all I know, honestly occur. The problem being that the man is supposed to take initiative in some people's minds. :O.
truevoiceofsanity 6 months ago
What about men who are raped by other men? The numbers are pretty amazing when you look at how many men are raped compared to women. Just Google it. I'm too lazy to paste them for you. So I guess men should just leave the high heels at home?
Arperture2008 6 months ago
Sweetheart, if I had to stick my dick inside you, I would be the one getting raped. Get over your delusions of grandeur. Plenty of slutty-dressed women are in clubs every night wanting to get fucked like banshees.
Don't worry dear, no one wants to rape you. Much less have CONSENSUAL sex with you.
MensRightsVideos 6 months ago
I live in a seaside resort town, where there are plenty of scantily clad women both during the day for the beach and during the night for clubbing and I've never been tempted to commit rape. I was raised by a mother that was not ashamed of her body, and the female form is a normal sight to me. Most cultures where women ARE raped for not covering up are those where seeing a female knee is scandalous (read islamic countries)
mrsanity 6 months ago
@healthyaddict I also think that sassy girl's dressing like sluts have no compassion for their lesser fortuned, in terms of looks, sisters. When you dress in tight trousers, and show your cleavage that is slutty. I love it, I think it is beautiful, but I think it is utterly cruel. Cruel towards other women less good looking, and cruel towards young men that get their heads twisted off. Fortunately I am so old now that I no longer are affected by sluts showing off their marvelous breasts.
hfe22 6 months ago
@healthyaddict
The need for sex has similarities like the need for food, except that you don't die if you don't get it.
If you don't get to eat, your survival mode kicks in, you might think of steeling food or even kill the people forbids you to eat.
What will happen in a camp where there is famin, if you're parading with a giant turkey., not letting anybody to eat? You will get killed! You are in your right to carry this big turkey across the camp everyday, but is that kind of you?
hfe22 6 months ago
Clothing or the lack there of as you say has nothing to do with rape. Go to a nudist beach and see how much rape there is there. I detected in your video a concern about other people being aware that you make videos. Why would you care?
Pigseye 6 months ago
A woman can be butt naked walking down the street and if you rape her you're still wrong. No way around it.
Vanesquick 6 months ago
@Vanesquick Spoken like a true pussy. If a broad walks down the street naked and she's fuck worthy, then she's gonna get it. Period. And she's not raped
Vergadoce 6 months ago
Rape is not a crime, women usually deserve it. If they didn't act in such a sinful manner, maybe it wouldn't happen. Women are filthy pigs
CumminOnyourMum 6 months ago
Fun fact: women cannot be topless in public UNLESS (as ruled by the supreme court a few years ago) THEY ARE PROTESTING (or SAY they are protesting) NOT BEING ABLE TO BE TOPLESS IN PUBLIC.
Just thought I might offer this loophole to anyone who hadn't heard it.
Great vid. (I'm going to bring up burkas the next time I'm debating someone on this topic. Thanks for pointing out that double-standard :)
PalulukanMakto 6 months ago
Never did understand the "look at the way she's dressed" argument. Or even a history of casual and indiscriminate affairs doesn't justify or mitigate rape. Why is anyone asking this question? Because some jackasses don't take no for an answer. Is it as simple as that? Yes.
NAFmunchausen 6 months ago
Well, if he didn't want shot, he would have been wearing kevlar body armor...
funningincircles 6 months ago
@MrgaTres1 Presumtuous, are we? Well, I'm not afraid to be wrong. If I am, I am. However, I'm not ignorant of the abuse men experience b/c of the roles forced upon them, and am aware that some feminists are total bitches. I'll check out that channel later with an open mind.
MissLoveTantei91 6 months ago
@MegaTress1 FUUUUU- I am full of typos today. I meant *APPRECIATED.
MissLoveTantei91 6 months ago
@MegaTress1 And while you're doing that, also realize that "feminists" or at leasts the ones I've seen (again, on the internet... as it's difficult to come across that sort of thing IRL) are actually for gender equality. The term feminism is off-putting, but their aim isn't for female superiority or for men to feel the shame women have felt and still feel. At least, from what I've seen. I am sorry for your suffering though. As a women I also have never unappreciated men being spat on.
MissLoveTantei91 6 months ago
@MegaTress1 Maybe you should look for yourself online. It isn't hard.
MissLoveTantei91 6 months ago
I'm a guy and would not rape a girl no matter how naked she was. I might make eye contact, engage in conversation to see if shes available and shamelessly check her out - but that's because I have an animal side, so does everyone else and I will never be ashamed of it. I think rape (not the fetish type where its role-playing and person is ok with it) but actual rape as an act of forced sex is uncool. One of the uncool-est crimes.
vmorgun 6 months ago
All women enjoy being raped. STOP SPREADING THESE LIES!!!
alaskanmes 7 months ago
Here's one: "Maybe your shouldn't drive such a fancy car and it wouldn't get stolen!"
jojokerus 7 months ago
@jojokerus Maybe you shouldn't leave your fancy car with the keys in the ignition in the middle of a bad neighborhood. oh wait, THAT'S SEXIST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!#@U!*(!*(@!*(#U
autumnzone1 6 months ago
I have no intention of causing any discomfort, but you're pretty cute, had to find something to do while listening to fully focus on the subject. ^.^;
Asmusei 7 months ago
Wow... How about people blame, oh I dunno, the people RAPING SOMEONE ELSE!? It can NEVER be someone's fault they got raped. NEVER. I don't care if you're nude or dressed like an eskimo. If you don't consent, then its rape and not your fault. If you consent, then you wanted it and there's no issue. This is a clear issue that I don't understand why people can't see as clearly. Its about stomping on someone's right to be left alone. PLAIN AND FUCKIN' SIMPLE. Don't agree? You're probably a rapist.
hellfencer 7 months ago
That lecture room has very nice seats...
Grymyrk 7 months ago
IM GOING TO GRAPE YOU
DragonBunni 7 months ago
@DragonBunni I'M GONNA GRAPE YOU AND YOUR CHILDREN!!!
XD
Asmusei 7 months ago
@HiddenRainful Saudi Arabia? HAHAHA. Sure. Lets pretend it's Saudi Arabia. Put on a burka and we'll hang some homosexuals.
Read the last sentence of my original comment again.
NASTEfilms 7 months ago
@MrNthDegree I did not know that there was this equality in Britain. Where I live, it is legal for a man to walk in the park, or down the street, mow the lawn, paint the fence or go swimming in the city pool etc topless, but a woman cannot legally do so. It is discriminatory, and sexist!
At least in your location the law applies to both sexes equally, and that is a good thing. Not every male or female here would even want to go top-free, but the law should be gender blind on the matter.
unserviam 7 months ago
men can always have sex at anytime, but they have learned from living with it, to control themselves.
Z3r0XoL 7 months ago
@HiddenRainful No, you think that the world is too lenient on criminals, and THAT makes you ignorant. You see, when we form a mob mentality against a criminal or criminal class, the only thing we accomplish is the social destruction and humiliation of those criminals. We don't make any progress at all when it comes to solving the real problem... in this case, rape. And when you're not working to solve the problem, it gets worse. We pay to put them in prison? Its about rehabilitation, not revenge
NASTEfilms 7 months ago
@NASTEfilms I'm all for rehabilitation if it has results, but there needs to be punishment. You don't understand the psychology of "aversion". That's why sexual abuse of children is so common in government institutions, because if a "staff member" or a "Psychyatrist" molests a child who's locked in a government institution, they know they will get away with it if found out, they will pay a fine at WORST. The fear of prison itself can and does prevent rape (cont.)
KingRadbadical1988 7 months ago
(cont.) the problem isn't that we "judge people" and I'm tired of hearing that. Liberals and conservatives have no empathy. Conservatives want to call everybody a "sex offender" or a "terrorist" and then liberals think we just need more "understanding" for REAL sex offenders and terrorists.
The problem is we're judging the WRONG people. We shouldn't be locking up 18 year old girls who have sex with 17 year olds. But we SHOULD lock up real pedophiles who act on their urges. (cont.)
KingRadbadical1988 7 months ago
(3) We also need to reform prison BIG time. We can NOT allow male "staff" to do strip searches on female inmates, especially teen girls (eew), some of whom are NOT IN PRISON FOR ANY CRIME BUT ARE IN "FOSTER CARE". This is bull shit. There is no reason they need to be restrained for not dressing the right way, and we need REVENGE, not "understanding" for evil adults who work in institutions, as well as the "pedophile" on the street, to make it stop.
KingRadbadical1988 7 months ago
P.S. I meant children in psychiatric facilities are restrained and given electric shocks for having their shirts untucked, and the government knows about it and has failed to do anything, except the Judge Rotenburg Center which may likely get shut down some time. Those children deserve to have some vengeance fulfilled because what they have been through surpasses ANYTHING their tormentors would suffer even if they were sent to Guantanamo Bay.
KingRadbadical1988 7 months ago
@KingRadbadical1988 vengeance is for video games and movies not real life. It's not about being a dreamer and wanting the whole world to live in peace, it's about logic and reason.
NASTEfilms 7 months ago
@NASTEfilms How do you STOP pedophiles? Physically stop them. Answer me. I need a real answer as to what exactly we do to prevent children from getting molested. How does "education" work? In some cases physically separating a child from his or her tormentor is the ONLY way of preventing further abuse, even if force needs to be used. Would you agree with me on that, even if its only done to keep the child safe and not for "revenge"?
KingRadbadical1988 7 months ago
And even then, how do you "educate" someone who abuses children, not to abuse them any more, when we already LIVE in a society that is OBSESSED with this sex offender witch hunt? That's the problem with it, is people are so busy putting 18 year olds in prison for having sex with 17 year olds, and putting teenagers in prison for making out with each other, I don't know if actual active pedophiles even get punished any more. This is NOT justice. But that doesn't mean justice CAN'T exist.
KingRadbadical1988 7 months ago
And there has to be SOME kind of...SOMETHING in place to discourage others from committing crimes.
I mean, what kind of "education" are you talking about? Surely you don't mean bringing a chalkboard into the house of a serial killer and writing down on it in front of him, "It isn't nice to kill people". I know that's not what you mean but I need a real description of what you mean by "education". Surely there must be SOME aversive or "corrective" treatment to discourage it from happening again
KingRadbadical1988 7 months ago
@KingRadbadical1988 Actually, I didn't say anything about "education". And yes, we need to reform our penal system to "rehabilitate" people, which is exactly what corrective treatment is.
NASTEfilms 6 months ago
@NASTEfilms But when it comes to institutional abuse: Those people should just be killed because the risk of them doing the same thing all over again is too high.
These are people who make over $60,000 a year, come from privileged white collar backgrounds, they have perfect normal lives, and yet they restrain and beat helpless kids while screaming in their faces, and they have EVERY chance to hear the child's cries of rage and agony and let them free but choose not to. They can't be rehabilit
KingRadbadical1988 6 months ago
Because I just see those things happening again and again and again so long as those people get away with it.
KingRadbadical1988 6 months ago
@KingRadbadical1988 How is going to prison for rape "getting away" with anything?
NASTEfilms 6 months ago
@NASTEfilms It isn't. But there has to be SOME pain they go through in prison because education doesn't work for EVERYBODY. I mean you can't possibly tell me you don't see a problem in having inch thick carpet and velvet lined curtains and sheets in every cell, and XBox360s and flat screen tvs
I mean there has to be a point where you ADMIT "Yes, this is mostly for rehab/education, but come on, we wanna see them go through SOME shit while they're in there".
KingRadbadical1988 6 months ago
@NASTEfilms Even if you don't believe prisoners should get raped or beaten, you still gotta admit that there would be SOME punishment. I mean you're not sending them to disney land are you? No you're sending them to a CELL. Even "rehabilitave" prisons wouldn't work if there wasn't SOME element of "punishment" within them.
So nothings 100%. Civilized countries don't use corporal punishment on prisoners unless the prisoner is actually being violent or maybe if its some guy who tortured children
KingRadbadical1988 6 months ago
@KingRadbadical1988 No, the punishment is being in a CELL and having no personal freedoms, along with a dictated schedual and communal showers, etc. Of course their not going to enjoy it. If that's not enough, don't forget that prisoners rape EACHOTHER. The point is, inrprisonment for punishment just doesn't work. Look at our penal system. It's a fucking disaster
NASTEfilms 6 months ago
@NASTEfilms EXACTLY. But in your system, the punishment would still involve a "cell" of some sort, am I correct? Please stay with me on this
KingRadbadical1988 6 months ago
@KingRadbadical1988 I'm getting tired of this. No, i would put them in a giant artificial vagina with an air hockey table and a rope swing
NASTEfilms 6 months ago
@NASTEfilms I HATE THIS. Every time I get in a debate with somebody and try to argue reasonable points or ask questions to someone who makes a comment, EVERY TIME, I just ask a question, and they say "i'm getting tired of this" or "you're still commenting on this?"
Its always someone who "doesn't care" about whatever they're talking about, calling me a loser for explaining myself on youtube comments. Always happens.
I'm just asking what type of "education" are you talking about
KingRadbadical1988 6 months ago
@NASTEfilms And wow you publish films? I thought you'd have more respect for debate then that.
You obviously don't care much about criminal justice or about sexual assault since you're just laughing in my face, basically, when I have a serious interest in both those things. Talking about all of these things is the way for society to figure out a way to solve all our problems. Your word has no credit if you get defensive every time someone asks you to be specific
KingRadbadical1988 6 months ago
@KingRadbadical1988 I bet you got a huge boner from winning this e-argument
You belong to a menial subgroup of right-wing, anti-intellectual human beings with radical and provocative ideals which you ejaculate into the grand forum of Youtube so that you may provoke other idealist induviduals with beliefs contrary to your own, all in the efforts to strengthen an ideology which disguises its bigoted and ridiculous principals as "Godly" and "truth"
Keep trying, it's never going to work.
NASTEfilms 6 months ago
@NASTEfilms YOU FUCKING PIECE OF FAGGOT SHIT, OKAY NOW I'M GONNA CALL YOU OUT ON YOUR SHIT. I'M A FUCKING ATHEIST, OKAY? YES ITS WORKING, ITS WORKING GREAT, THE FACT THAT ALL YOU'RE DOING IS CALLING ME NAMES AND MAKING ASSUMPTIONS ABOUT ME PROVES WHAT A GOD DAMN MORON YOU REALLY FUCKING ARE YOU PIECE OF FUCKING FILTH, I CRITISIZED THE WAR IN A ROOM FULL OF 20 REDNECKS YOU LITTLE BITCH SO DON'T TELL ME ABOUT "RIGHT WING ANTI-INTELLECTUAL" BULLSHIT, I HATE HOW INCORRECT ALL MY TROLLS ARE.
KingRadbadical1988 6 months ago
@NASTEfilms And if I won the argument THEN I WAS RIGHT OBVIOUSLY. "GETTING A BONER FROM WINNING AN ARGUMENT" STFU IF I REALLY "WON" THE ARGUMENT THEN YOU SHOULD STFU AND WALK AWAY DEFEATED AND BECOME A WISER PERSON FROM ADMITTING YOU WERE WRONG. NOT MAKE FUCKING CHILDISH ASS ASSUMPTIONS.
God damn I'm not even a conservative you piece of shit, "godly"? What god damn world are you living in I'm so sick of this bullshit.
KingRadbadical1988 6 months ago
@HiddenRainful You're ignorance makes me equally as sick. I have just as much respect for you as you do for me :D
NASTEfilms 7 months ago
Prison inmates all dress exactly the same way in ugly, unflattering clothes and it sure doesn't protect them from being raped. So how provocative you are has nothing to do with it.
patchesdf 7 months ago
@HiddenRainful - of course not, but if one decides to walk naked through a viagra convention, one might suppose one's risk factors might have just increased. A rape would not be "justified" under any circumstances, but "more likely" might be accurate.
Like - if one walks down a dark alley with $100 bills hanging out of one's pockets. Doesn't justify theft, but.....
PeytonFarquhar1 7 months ago
I think the blame the victim thing comes from the fact that rape perps often believe that their victim actually likes and wants what's going on. The blame the victim thing comes from other males having sympathy for the rape perpetrator for this reason. Which is okay. Not necessarily right, but okay.
NASTEfilms 7 months ago
I would definitely say to a male that a male should not dress too slutty to protect himself from being raped. First, men don't really have a "slutty" manner of dress - and if a man goes out with ball huggers, and legs, stomach and everything but penis and balls and string up the ass, and walks into a gay bar, if he got raped, I am sure many people would ask what he was doing in there dressed like that.
PeytonFarquhar1 7 months ago
Does ANYONE really say "she was dressed like a slut, so it justifies being raped?" Nobody says that, except for Muslims in Saudi Arabia and the like.
PeytonFarquhar1 7 months ago
@PeytonFarquhar1 yes alot of people say that...in middle eastern countries, america, europe, all over the globe....
ChicGenique 7 months ago