I'd just like to remind everybody that these numbers only indicate correlation, not causation. It is entirely conceivable that the reason more of these people are watching FOX NEWS is because of their views, and not the other way around. I.e. "If you think this way, you are more likely to watch FOX" as opposed to "If you watch FOX, you are more likely to think this way".
I would like to see evidence towards the likely result of FOX causing the view. It shouldn't be that hard to find...
What's equally disturbing is the extent Dems give these kooks credence, authority, n legitimacy.What kind of ideological brainwashing keeps Dems from calling these people n their reps at FOX n GOP fascists?The unwillingness to recognize that this clash of "realities" is motivated by class war.As long as Dems fear referring to this,nothing will ever really change(Obama),n the Republicans will continue institutionalizing n brainwashing more inequality, injustice, n intolerance w the help of Dems.
What's equally disarming is the extent Democrats are willing to grant so many kooks credence, authority and legitimacy by being unable to call these people (and their representatives at Fox and the GOP)ignorant, deceptive, and malicious.What kind of ideological brainwashing keeps the Dems from calling fascism by name?The unwillingness to recognize that the root of all this clash of "realities" is what it has always been:class war.As long as the Dems run from this truth, nothing will ever change.
@livin4jesus0225 fox is crap. and so is msnbc. they are both crap. happy? as for not watching it simply because i dont like it, that doesnt stop the masses from watching the propaganda channels and falling for the crap. have a nice day.
Lies make the world go round, Greed makes the world go round, Dirty money makes the world go round, Human blood makes the world go round... Why cant peace and love make the world go round!!! <3
What about how the independents think? Only people that give a shit to vote are the ones that are constantly involved in politics which usually sway to one side. Nobody knows what the percentage of what people think out there! It is complete non-sense and it is misleading purposely. TURN THE GOD DAMN TV OFF AND QUIT GETTING YOUR INFORMATION FROM IT!!! PERIOD!!!
I'm now starting to think there is no such thing as a left and right. There is so much media being slammed into our minds from everywhere. It is hard to decipher what really is fact. When it comes down to it what you watch is what you believe. Also you have Americans turning against each other, father against son, brothers and sister, and broken friendships. Turn off the TV and do something useful or productive. No matter what you think if you don't like it do something! Maybe run for president.
It's also funny as hell to see how pissed the left gets about Fox News. You have ABC, CBS, NBC, CNBC, MSNBC, and on and on that are far to the left, and one station has somewhat of a conservative slant and you guys go mad. I guess it's because Fox is kicking ass.
@poundsand Hey i dont care that Fox is conservative, but you yourself admitted that they are slanted, but they enjoy parading about the whole "unbiased" thing like they arent slanted. Look, i know there are lefty news stations, they dont try to deny it. But Fox is so obviously conservative and they try to say they arent- quit lying!
Hey if you don't think when the money runs out that healthcare will be rationed you are truly a dumbass. It happens all around the world in all the countries that have socialized medicine. Just take some time to see how long you wait for major life saving surgeries in say Canada or Great Britain. You are more likely to die than to live long enough to receive the treatment.
i dislike Fox & do not care for their propaganda machine 'news' - & i'am glad to see the clear correlation between what their own agenda is & what facts get glossed over.
however this also serves as a warning to CNN & MSNBC to inform people more of the facts (it shouldn't even be 30% it should be as close to 0% as possible).
management always shapes view but instead of railing against fox (which is easy to do) lift your own game to inform the public better.
Sorry that Rahm is so "think skinned" when it comes to Fox. President Obama promised us change. It's now apparent that when it comes to managing the media, he was talking about putting a muzzle on those media outlets that undermined his agenda. He's obviously spent too much time with Hugo Chavez. Very sad indeed!
Most democrats want the US out of Afghanistan; and no one seems to be able to comprehend the administration's position. Instead, our buddy Rahm has opened up a frontal assault on Fox News because they keep asking questions, many of which are embarrassing (Vane Jones) to the administration. Every president has been challenged by the press. This is the norm. This strategy is driving up Fox's ratings. Very dumb.
Fox is one of the only networks asking the administration any questions...even if some are incredibly dumb or petty. As a democrat, I really wish that the news media in general would start asking some hard questions of the current administration. Like why are there 3 bills in the House and 2 in the Senate covering health care? And what's the administration's position on the war in Afghanistan? I thought that this was the war that Obama said that we had to win. Sorry, this is very confusing.
what's funny is that msnbc and cnn viewers if immigrants are going to get covered is nearly half of their viewers believe it as well, so just because msnbc is lower doesn't mean you're still right because nearly half is a horrible statistic by itself!
Yes, use homophobic slurs, that will lend credibility to your comments. *rolls eyes*
For the record "Residency status" is not Citizenship status. An immigrant can be a permanent resident however this does not give them citizenship status. Thusly your facts are fallacious.
1. Fact: There WAS a provision in the bill that said there would be a panel set up to decide what kinds of care would be provided. = Death Panels
3. Fact: There was a section in the bill taht said that patients would not have to verify their residency status,thus allowing for illegal aliens to receive healthcare under the new plan.
Yeah, the left and right are working from different sets of "Facts" it just seems that when it comes to this bill, it's the Liberals tthat don't know how to read.
actually, unlike private ins. corps, there is no provision refusing treatment in order to 'save' money & kill ppl.
nevermind that ins. corps' death panels disallow treatment for a milion reasons while making billions by saving money from NOT giving treatments due to 'prior conditions'; labelling many life-saving EXPENSIVE treatments as too 'experimental' to cover (incl. liver transplants); upping premiums, deductibles, & co-payments while decreasing coverage.
HA! 5% of Democrats, 8% of indepnedants & 26% Repubs that vote on Daily Koolaids poll believe it.....then she says it really is Republicans that believe this stuff & no one else @ 1:20
What a stupid slot licker. She can't even compose her own propaganda right! A whopping majority, 43% of Republicans said NO & another whopping 31% NOT SURE! ! This from Left Fringe Daily Koolaid! NOT a Repub poll!
Sad. No wonder their ratings are in the toilet.
Just flush it already & put her out of her misery.
omg i h8 republicans so much XD lol a knuckle bump or a TERRORIST FIST JAB THAT ACTIVATES THEIR RINGS OF FREE SPEECH THROUGH OUT AMERICA!!! lol that might as well be wat she sez
I love Rachael and the way she exposes these fake ass right wing cowards. Fox news has entertainers, not journalists spreading their hate and misinformation to their ignorantly blissful audience. Moreover, fox's chicken hawk anchors like hannity and oreilly dont independently do research on topics or issues that affect us as a nation, they simply do as their masters say.
You're kidding right? Last time I checked, these "cowards" are the ones who have somebody with a different view on their show. Odormann and Man-now have never had anyone other that left wing, overemotional, uneducated bafoons like you on their show. Who's the cowards again?
ur so stupid that you cant even look at all the videos listed on the rightside of ur screen as well as search results where they have r/ws like tom ridge on their shows. how stupid.
I'm not the one who can't spell "you're" am I? :) But Tom Ridge? They sit there all day picking at Rush, why don't they have him on their shows? They know he would own them at anything other than tiny soundbytes they play of him out of context.
ur so stupid u think i cant spell you're? oh brother...
rush? he never interviews anybody but rightwingers. whereas olbermann & maddow are always on shows where r/ws appear & debate w/ them. all you have to do is check out the many videos on youtube where they do just that.
whereas you wont find ONE video of rush in a debate (& i'm not talking callers) on any of these tv shows. it's only a one-on-one interview he does. why? cuz he's a propogandist rather than a researcher/ journalist
look up on youtube: tom ridge/maddow; scott mcclellan/olbermann; olbermann/mccain; maddow/megan mccain; maddow/philip zelikow; maddow/pat buchanan; maddow/david frum; maddow/ron paul if u consider him conservative; maddow/Nancy Pfotenhauer; etc.
Bullshit. Again another example of you cherry picking those historical facts you like and ignoring those you don't. Mussolini never belonged to the Republican party. He was an Italian he started the fascist party and based it on National Socialism which was based on Marxist principles, but rather than advocating for an international workers body it advocted socialism along national borders. You would have embraced Mussolini too if he held a gun to your face. You have no argument, that is clear.
Neither do I. Neither do any of the conservatives or Republicans I know.
And you personally may not advocate this stuff, but there are plenty of Democrats in office right now who have no problem with it. Why don't you do America a favor and divorce yourself from the red/blue dichotomy you are trapped in.
obamacomma has listed actual events that neo-cons have been doing. if you've never heard of these things, then ur either a liar or ignorant of the news. plenty of videos on youtube that you can watch them doing these things.
then you accuse dems of doing it when you list no actions done by them of these things, when obamacomma has. seems all you have is empty lies.
You just contradicted yourself. First you say that "conservative" means something different around the world and then you try falsely try to equate Mussolini to American Republicanism. Nevermind that he instituted social programs such as raising the minimum wage, nationalizing healthcare and the banking system. All pet projects of the DNC. So which is it? You're begining to run around in a circle.
And yet look at what the man did. He nationalized the private sector, healthcare and formed a powerful domestic force....hmmmm who does that sound like? Oh I know! Obama.
Plato was a Republican, Mussolini was a National SOCIALIST. Mussolini believed in things like government rationed health care...hmmm who does that sound similar to? The Republican party itself is not tied to Nazism, that is a bold face lie created by you. In fact it was Republicans who championed U.S. involvment to fight the Nazis in WW2. In fact Mussolini championed anti-Capitalist ideas. What you consider facts are nothing but falsehoods meant to demonize your opponents. You fail.
Go back and read a book. It was the conservatives and British turd Neville Chamberlain that were more pro Nazi than you think. The conservatives werent the ones that went out and kicked Nazi ass. It was the American people and a Democrat president that did this. Dont you dare go and take credit for something your party wanted to wash its hands of. Your revisionist history doesn't fly.
Perhaps you are not as learned as you think. It was another fine Conservative party member, Winston Churchill who advocated war against the Nazis and he found many right leaning Americans sympathetic to his cause. In fact FDR dragged his feet against entering the war until Dec. 7,1941. When he could no long justify The U.S. abstaining from the fight. I suggest you start with World War 2: an unabridged Chronology.
Well, I had grandfathers that fought in WWII, but I doubt YOU did. You are every bit as unAmerican as you paint the other side to be. You use partisans punditry to object you partisan punditry, so how are you any different from a Fox news viewer, other than being unable to look at things objectively and without a left wing point of view? You are the same monster you claim you are fighting.
Well, fight fire with fire. At least mine followed facts rather than personal opinion.
You continue to demonize and misrepresent your political opposites, and then expect to be taken seriously? Surely you just. Mussolini was neither Republican nor Democrat, you moron. He was a National SOCIALIST. And that ideology has just as much in common with DNC planks as the GOP. But never mind historical facts, just keep your head buried up the ass of MSDNC. Tool.
Bennito Mussolini was a progressive, you dolt. In fact the Progressives/left wing in America often pointed to Mussolini and Stalin as examples America should follow. But you fail Godwin's law. You can't form an argument with out resorting to Ad hominen attacks, and demonizing personal distortions. Why should anyone take what you or the left wing in this country says seriously?
Who cares? All the major media networks are in fact biased, and one thing that cannot be debated is if a person knowingly uses information gathered by an admitted biased source, that person is an idiot. I had one moron tell me Fox is "less" biased so he trusts them. There is no such thing as less or more biased, you either are or you are not. So to take that info from a biased source is only telling of how uninformed that person is, and can easily be shredded with simple facts.
Interesting that Ms. Maddow forgets to "mention" that the four facts she's claiming are false are provisions that WERE in the bill but have now been taken out. So, Republican dissent during the last 2 months has made a difference in what is being proposed. Please be accurate that the American political process is working and people, just because they don't agree with you, have every right to put forth their views. And, I wonder if that same poll asked if people read the bill. I have. Have u
Twinsfan28, what we have now is coporate rip-off. I pay $700 dollars a month for insurance. When my son was diagnosed with autism they wouldn't pay for ABA or sensory integration therapy, they would only pay for 30 minutes of therapy twice a week for 16 weeks. This therapy would teach him who to get dressed and use a fork. When my daughter knocked out a tooth after a fall. I was told "we don't cover dental" When I needed a blood test to check my thyroid, I was told "you need to pay in full"
So I ask, what are they doing with my $700. per month....the "system" the way it works now is a rip-off, I would glady take my thyroid test...at a government run health clinic. I'm tired of the rip-off.
When you provide health insurance for all it stops becoming insurance and starts becoming welfare. Would I like to see the USA have unlimited resources to help every american receive healthcare? YES! But we don't have unlimited resources. Since everyone will have healthcare, they're going to have to start rationing healthcare. A way to do this is by limiting healthcare for people who've lived past their life expectancy or have low probability of living through their surgery, aka euthanasia.
A friend of mine here in Thailand watched Fox as channel of choice for 'news'. He was otherwise a very intelligent guy. When the Bush invaded Irag, my friend said 'well, they gotta find those WOMD'. I didn't say anything. Didn't want to hurt his feelings. He also went along with the Republican policy of 'right to bear arms'. He shot himself two weeks ago.
she is a idiot for attacking gun owners and linking them to timothy's macvie ,the cops never arrested them so why does media think they should brainwash people to demonize them, she should report news and keep her hate speech big yap to her muff diving ,and anyone who watches fox is even more stupid than her
Oh I see so if everyone that watches fox news is the minority compared to everyone else? Than why the hell do they crush you in ratings? I guess we're all idiots right?
to answer your question, yes you are all idiots if you watch fox for factual info. Flavor of love starring flava flave had high ratings too. Ratings are an indicator of how many people watch the show and that is it.
And why do you think that is? All you do is name call you back nothing up. Perhaps people are tired of complainers who have no solution other than to insult others.
These accusations are funny coming from a self-described progressive on a competitor network that engages in the same kind of slant reporting and pundit pontificating. Can you say hypocrite, Madcow?
No, that would be a Kleptocracy or an Oligarchy. Fascism is when the government IS the corporation. When the state runs everything for the benefit of the state. That doesn't sound like Republicanism to me.
No, fascism is where "health" "insurance" corps make money by uninsuring the dying, eg, and they are so powerful, they now write policy for the gov. How many of your community have been murdered by these fascist elements?
Again, please look up the definition of "fascism". And while you're at it please take a class in Macro-economics. Also please take the time to understand the definition of 'murder'. I swear, you rabble rousers do more harm to your own cause by using emotion driven object and mis-using terminology than anyone else. You can't win the debate by demonizing your opponent.
I have so many degrees already, and i've had, macro and micro econ. You just refuse in your mind to "get" it. Looks like u ascribe to Objectivism like Ann and the Friedman's, and the most recent loser, Greenspan. Note to those who hide in the cynical redoubt of the stoic: When a person claims to be unemotional and objective, it is the subjective part of them that drives them.
Oh I understood it, but in the frame of our discussion it is meaningless. It's basically your cop out way of saying that because I don't agree with I'm swayed by my own emotions, were as you you are the only person invocing emotion into the debate. Example, you equating health care to fascism. Hardly an objective position to have. Stop projecting your inadequacies on me.
Fear is an emotion and you just said I'm not swayed by emotion. I actually give more credit to people who use sane and rational thought and can construct an argument without resorting to violations of Godwin's law. But hey, that's me. You have fun in your tinfoil moon bat fort.
again, calling people crazy is more than poor form ol chum. You don't feel your fear because it would overwhelm you and make you horribly uncomfortable.
We need health care reform and that is the bottom line. Doing nothing is not an option anymore so why not take the time to get the facts.
My profile has been converted into a health care resource. In the comment section you will find the answers to the most commonly asked questions as well as several other resources including the easy to read version of the bill (and the long one), Info on who is in the pockets of big Pharma and what you can do to help.
why isn't the government stopping them or at least fining fox news. News is based on fact when you do make up stuff it is not news. it is just a bunch of assholes trying to brainwash people into believing what they think.
I'd just like to remind everybody that these numbers only indicate correlation, not causation. It is entirely conceivable that the reason more of these people are watching FOX NEWS is because of their views, and not the other way around. I.e. "If you think this way, you are more likely to watch FOX" as opposed to "If you watch FOX, you are more likely to think this way".
I would like to see evidence towards the likely result of FOX causing the view. It shouldn't be that hard to find...
eshnajizzle 5 months ago
What's equally disturbing is the extent Dems give these kooks credence, authority, n legitimacy.What kind of ideological brainwashing keeps Dems from calling these people n their reps at FOX n GOP fascists?The unwillingness to recognize that this clash of "realities" is motivated by class war.As long as Dems fear referring to this,nothing will ever really change(Obama),n the Republicans will continue institutionalizing n brainwashing more inequality, injustice, n intolerance w the help of Dems.
Vannman99 10 months ago
What's equally disarming is the extent Democrats are willing to grant so many kooks credence, authority and legitimacy by being unable to call these people (and their representatives at Fox and the GOP)ignorant, deceptive, and malicious.What kind of ideological brainwashing keeps the Dems from calling fascism by name?The unwillingness to recognize that the root of all this clash of "realities" is what it has always been:class war.As long as the Dems run from this truth, nothing will ever change.
Vannman99 10 months ago
@livin4jesus0225 fox is crap. and so is msnbc. they are both crap. happy? as for not watching it simply because i dont like it, that doesnt stop the masses from watching the propaganda channels and falling for the crap. have a nice day.
CAallday209 10 months ago
@livin4jesus0225 It's not about bias...it's about LIES.
GenerationB0RED 10 months ago
12 people like being brainwashed
UberLogic 11 months ago
The lady looks like she gave a terrorist fist job to Beck
prit0sidd 1 year ago
fox is on noncable or broadcast tv. msnbc is not, hmmmm thank god for the internet and youtube.
RN4fostercare 1 year ago
@livin4jesus0225 Dont be an arogant fool.
lolzomgz1337 1 year ago
@livin4jesus0225 Ugh, dont get me into a pro-choice/life argument please.
lolzomgz1337 1 year ago
Lies make the world go round, Greed makes the world go round, Dirty money makes the world go round, Human blood makes the world go round... Why cant peace and love make the world go round!!! <3
TheMegahVideoz 1 year ago
is that a woman or man or horse?
neilzep 1 year ago
Whats wrong with tax payer funded abortions anyway?
lolzomgz1337 1 year ago
What about how the independents think? Only people that give a shit to vote are the ones that are constantly involved in politics which usually sway to one side. Nobody knows what the percentage of what people think out there! It is complete non-sense and it is misleading purposely. TURN THE GOD DAMN TV OFF AND QUIT GETTING YOUR INFORMATION FROM IT!!! PERIOD!!!
jyoung0000 1 year ago
I'm now starting to think there is no such thing as a left and right. There is so much media being slammed into our minds from everywhere. It is hard to decipher what really is fact. When it comes down to it what you watch is what you believe. Also you have Americans turning against each other, father against son, brothers and sister, and broken friendships. Turn off the TV and do something useful or productive. No matter what you think if you don't like it do something! Maybe run for president.
martinmand1r 1 year ago
It's also funny as hell to see how pissed the left gets about Fox News. You have ABC, CBS, NBC, CNBC, MSNBC, and on and on that are far to the left, and one station has somewhat of a conservative slant and you guys go mad. I guess it's because Fox is kicking ass.
poundsand 1 year ago
@poundsand Hey i dont care that Fox is conservative, but you yourself admitted that they are slanted, but they enjoy parading about the whole "unbiased" thing like they arent slanted. Look, i know there are lefty news stations, they dont try to deny it. But Fox is so obviously conservative and they try to say they arent- quit lying!
pdaily91 1 year ago
Hey if you don't think when the money runs out that healthcare will be rationed you are truly a dumbass. It happens all around the world in all the countries that have socialized medicine. Just take some time to see how long you wait for major life saving surgeries in say Canada or Great Britain. You are more likely to die than to live long enough to receive the treatment.
poundsand 1 year ago
i dislike Fox & do not care for their propaganda machine 'news' - & i'am glad to see the clear correlation between what their own agenda is & what facts get glossed over.
however this also serves as a warning to CNN & MSNBC to inform people more of the facts (it shouldn't even be 30% it should be as close to 0% as possible).
management always shapes view but instead of railing against fox (which is easy to do) lift your own game to inform the public better.
internetdv8 2 years ago
Sorry that Rahm is so "think skinned" when it comes to Fox. President Obama promised us change. It's now apparent that when it comes to managing the media, he was talking about putting a muzzle on those media outlets that undermined his agenda. He's obviously spent too much time with Hugo Chavez. Very sad indeed!
Wilhelm95070 2 years ago
Most democrats want the US out of Afghanistan; and no one seems to be able to comprehend the administration's position. Instead, our buddy Rahm has opened up a frontal assault on Fox News because they keep asking questions, many of which are embarrassing (Vane Jones) to the administration. Every president has been challenged by the press. This is the norm. This strategy is driving up Fox's ratings. Very dumb.
Wilhelm95070 2 years ago
Fox is one of the only networks asking the administration any questions...even if some are incredibly dumb or petty. As a democrat, I really wish that the news media in general would start asking some hard questions of the current administration. Like why are there 3 bills in the House and 2 in the Senate covering health care? And what's the administration's position on the war in Afghanistan? I thought that this was the war that Obama said that we had to win. Sorry, this is very confusing.
Wilhelm95070 2 years ago
what's funny is that msnbc and cnn viewers if immigrants are going to get covered is nearly half of their viewers believe it as well, so just because msnbc is lower doesn't mean you're still right because nearly half is a horrible statistic by itself!
knowledge198405 2 years ago
Hilarious that all the things she's saying are not true are.. um... true!!
Who is doing the brainwashing, again?
fskoti 2 years ago
Yes, use homophobic slurs, that will lend credibility to your comments. *rolls eyes*
For the record "Residency status" is not Citizenship status. An immigrant can be a permanent resident however this does not give them citizenship status. Thusly your facts are fallacious.
VibrancySF 2 years ago
1. Fact: There WAS a provision in the bill that said there would be a panel set up to decide what kinds of care would be provided. = Death Panels
3. Fact: There was a section in the bill taht said that patients would not have to verify their residency status,thus allowing for illegal aliens to receive healthcare under the new plan.
Yeah, the left and right are working from different sets of "Facts" it just seems that when it comes to this bill, it's the Liberals tthat don't know how to read.
outcastoredwall 2 years ago
actually, unlike private ins. corps, there is no provision refusing treatment in order to 'save' money & kill ppl.
nevermind that ins. corps' death panels disallow treatment for a milion reasons while making billions by saving money from NOT giving treatments due to 'prior conditions'; labelling many life-saving EXPENSIVE treatments as too 'experimental' to cover (incl. liver transplants); upping premiums, deductibles, & co-payments while decreasing coverage.
rumpole33 2 years ago
HA! 5% of Democrats, 8% of indepnedants & 26% Repubs that vote on Daily Koolaids poll believe it.....then she says it really is Republicans that believe this stuff & no one else @ 1:20
What a stupid slot licker. She can't even compose her own propaganda right! A whopping majority, 43% of Republicans said NO & another whopping 31% NOT SURE! ! This from Left Fringe Daily Koolaid! NOT a Repub poll!
Sad. No wonder their ratings are in the toilet.
Just flush it already & put her out of her misery.
WhozzWho 2 years ago
she didnt say no one else believed it - that's why she showed you the polling numbers. cant you read the graphs? how stupid.
rumpole33 2 years ago
dyke
knicks1616 2 years ago
omg i h8 republicans so much XD lol a knuckle bump or a TERRORIST FIST JAB THAT ACTIVATES THEIR RINGS OF FREE SPEECH THROUGH OUT AMERICA!!! lol that might as well be wat she sez
windmonkey95 2 years ago
I love Rachael and the way she exposes these fake ass right wing cowards. Fox news has entertainers, not journalists spreading their hate and misinformation to their ignorantly blissful audience. Moreover, fox's chicken hawk anchors like hannity and oreilly dont independently do research on topics or issues that affect us as a nation, they simply do as their masters say.
plummer90715 2 years ago 15
You're kidding right? Last time I checked, these "cowards" are the ones who have somebody with a different view on their show. Odormann and Man-now have never had anyone other that left wing, overemotional, uneducated bafoons like you on their show. Who's the cowards again?
singingismylifee4 2 years ago
ur so stupid that you cant even look at all the videos listed on the rightside of ur screen as well as search results where they have r/ws like tom ridge on their shows. how stupid.
rumpole33 2 years ago
I'm not the one who can't spell "you're" am I? :) But Tom Ridge? They sit there all day picking at Rush, why don't they have him on their shows? They know he would own them at anything other than tiny soundbytes they play of him out of context.
singingismylifee4 2 years ago
ur so stupid u think i cant spell you're? oh brother...
rush? he never interviews anybody but rightwingers. whereas olbermann & maddow are always on shows where r/ws appear & debate w/ them. all you have to do is check out the many videos on youtube where they do just that.
whereas you wont find ONE video of rush in a debate (& i'm not talking callers) on any of these tv shows. it's only a one-on-one interview he does. why? cuz he's a propogandist rather than a researcher/ journalist
rumpole33 2 years ago
Well you don't know capital letters either. Name one relavent conservative Odormann or Man-now have debated with.
singingismylifee4 2 years ago
you sound like a baby.
look up on youtube: tom ridge/maddow; scott mcclellan/olbermann; olbermann/mccain; maddow/megan mccain; maddow/philip zelikow; maddow/pat buchanan; maddow/david frum; maddow/ron paul if u consider him conservative; maddow/Nancy Pfotenhauer; etc.
btw, i see you call ppl names. typical neo-con.
rumpole33 2 years ago
she is gay
PLASMAVITY 2 years ago
Bullshit. Again another example of you cherry picking those historical facts you like and ignoring those you don't. Mussolini never belonged to the Republican party. He was an Italian he started the fascist party and based it on National Socialism which was based on Marxist principles, but rather than advocating for an international workers body it advocted socialism along national borders. You would have embraced Mussolini too if he held a gun to your face. You have no argument, that is clear.
flockofgoat 2 years ago
Neither do I. Neither do any of the conservatives or Republicans I know.
And you personally may not advocate this stuff, but there are plenty of Democrats in office right now who have no problem with it. Why don't you do America a favor and divorce yourself from the red/blue dichotomy you are trapped in.
flockofgoat 2 years ago
obamacomma has listed actual events that neo-cons have been doing. if you've never heard of these things, then ur either a liar or ignorant of the news. plenty of videos on youtube that you can watch them doing these things.
then you accuse dems of doing it when you list no actions done by them of these things, when obamacomma has. seems all you have is empty lies.
rumpole33 2 years ago
You just contradicted yourself. First you say that "conservative" means something different around the world and then you try falsely try to equate Mussolini to American Republicanism. Nevermind that he instituted social programs such as raising the minimum wage, nationalizing healthcare and the banking system. All pet projects of the DNC. So which is it? You're begining to run around in a circle.
flockofgoat 2 years ago
LOL, "A terrorist fist jab?" I forgot about that.
chevon1920 2 years ago 7
And yet look at what the man did. He nationalized the private sector, healthcare and formed a powerful domestic force....hmmmm who does that sound like? Oh I know! Obama.
flockofgoat 2 years ago
Plato was a Republican, Mussolini was a National SOCIALIST. Mussolini believed in things like government rationed health care...hmmm who does that sound similar to? The Republican party itself is not tied to Nazism, that is a bold face lie created by you. In fact it was Republicans who championed U.S. involvment to fight the Nazis in WW2. In fact Mussolini championed anti-Capitalist ideas. What you consider facts are nothing but falsehoods meant to demonize your opponents. You fail.
flockofgoat 2 years ago
Go back and read a book. It was the conservatives and British turd Neville Chamberlain that were more pro Nazi than you think. The conservatives werent the ones that went out and kicked Nazi ass. It was the American people and a Democrat president that did this. Dont you dare go and take credit for something your party wanted to wash its hands of. Your revisionist history doesn't fly.
egrimnes 2 years ago
Perhaps you are not as learned as you think. It was another fine Conservative party member, Winston Churchill who advocated war against the Nazis and he found many right leaning Americans sympathetic to his cause. In fact FDR dragged his feet against entering the war until Dec. 7,1941. When he could no long justify The U.S. abstaining from the fight. I suggest you start with World War 2: an unabridged Chronology.
flockofgoat 2 years ago
Well, I had grandfathers that fought in WWII, but I doubt YOU did. You are every bit as unAmerican as you paint the other side to be. You use partisans punditry to object you partisan punditry, so how are you any different from a Fox news viewer, other than being unable to look at things objectively and without a left wing point of view? You are the same monster you claim you are fighting.
flockofgoat 2 years ago
Well, fight fire with fire. At least mine followed facts rather than personal opinion.
You continue to demonize and misrepresent your political opposites, and then expect to be taken seriously? Surely you just. Mussolini was neither Republican nor Democrat, you moron. He was a National SOCIALIST. And that ideology has just as much in common with DNC planks as the GOP. But never mind historical facts, just keep your head buried up the ass of MSDNC. Tool.
flockofgoat 2 years ago
Bennito Mussolini was a progressive, you dolt. In fact the Progressives/left wing in America often pointed to Mussolini and Stalin as examples America should follow. But you fail Godwin's law. You can't form an argument with out resorting to Ad hominen attacks, and demonizing personal distortions. Why should anyone take what you or the left wing in this country says seriously?
flockofgoat 2 years ago
(or, at least, they want to...)
HairilyClinton 2 years ago
fox takes away your freedom.
HairilyClinton 2 years ago
Who cares? All the major media networks are in fact biased, and one thing that cannot be debated is if a person knowingly uses information gathered by an admitted biased source, that person is an idiot. I had one moron tell me Fox is "less" biased so he trusts them. There is no such thing as less or more biased, you either are or you are not. So to take that info from a biased source is only telling of how uninformed that person is, and can easily be shredded with simple facts.
InteGrayting 2 years ago
Interesting that Ms. Maddow forgets to "mention" that the four facts she's claiming are false are provisions that WERE in the bill but have now been taken out. So, Republican dissent during the last 2 months has made a difference in what is being proposed. Please be accurate that the American political process is working and people, just because they don't agree with you, have every right to put forth their views. And, I wonder if that same poll asked if people read the bill. I have. Have u
skeetercamp 2 years ago
Twinsfan28, what we have now is coporate rip-off. I pay $700 dollars a month for insurance. When my son was diagnosed with autism they wouldn't pay for ABA or sensory integration therapy, they would only pay for 30 minutes of therapy twice a week for 16 weeks. This therapy would teach him who to get dressed and use a fork. When my daughter knocked out a tooth after a fall. I was told "we don't cover dental" When I needed a blood test to check my thyroid, I was told "you need to pay in full"
konefka 2 years ago
So I ask, what are they doing with my $700. per month....the "system" the way it works now is a rip-off, I would glady take my thyroid test...at a government run health clinic. I'm tired of the rip-off.
konefka 2 years ago
When you provide health insurance for all it stops becoming insurance and starts becoming welfare. Would I like to see the USA have unlimited resources to help every american receive healthcare? YES! But we don't have unlimited resources. Since everyone will have healthcare, they're going to have to start rationing healthcare. A way to do this is by limiting healthcare for people who've lived past their life expectancy or have low probability of living through their surgery, aka euthanasia.
Twinsfan28 2 years ago 2
A friend of mine here in Thailand watched Fox as channel of choice for 'news'. He was otherwise a very intelligent guy. When the Bush invaded Irag, my friend said 'well, they gotta find those WOMD'. I didn't say anything. Didn't want to hurt his feelings. He also went along with the Republican policy of 'right to bear arms'. He shot himself two weeks ago.
tamsindahouse 2 years ago
Good job
TheJdubclark 2 years ago
spread this vid!!
love it!!!
jessicapeanut 2 years ago
If Fox News it bias, than what the fuck do you call MSNBC? Maddow, Olbermann, Schultz are partisan hacks.
kylesal 2 years ago 2
she is a idiot for attacking gun owners and linking them to timothy's macvie ,the cops never arrested them so why does media think they should brainwash people to demonize them, she should report news and keep her hate speech big yap to her muff diving ,and anyone who watches fox is even more stupid than her
TheOrderOutOfChaos 2 years ago
Oh I see so if everyone that watches fox news is the minority compared to everyone else? Than why the hell do they crush you in ratings? I guess we're all idiots right?
chiefkc26 2 years ago
yes
QueensNewYork7 2 years ago
hahaha :)
dyrsten 2 years ago
Ratings don't mean shit.
Danzerfaust 2 years ago
yap
jerome4445 2 years ago
to answer your question, yes you are all idiots if you watch fox for factual info. Flavor of love starring flava flave had high ratings too. Ratings are an indicator of how many people watch the show and that is it.
qualityrkc 2 years ago
And why do you think that is? All you do is name call you back nothing up. Perhaps people are tired of complainers who have no solution other than to insult others.
chiefkc26 2 years ago
These accusations are funny coming from a self-described progressive on a competitor network that engages in the same kind of slant reporting and pundit pontificating. Can you say hypocrite, Madcow?
flockofgoat 2 years ago
What is happening to this country is like the republicans becoming like fascists.
jerrydoubleu 2 years ago
yeah, only it's not. I urge you to look up the definition of fascism.
flockofgoat 2 years ago
When corporations run things like tyrants, that's facism.
jerrydoubleu 2 years ago
No, that would be a Kleptocracy or an Oligarchy. Fascism is when the government IS the corporation. When the state runs everything for the benefit of the state. That doesn't sound like Republicanism to me.
flockofgoat 2 years ago
No, fascism is where "health" "insurance" corps make money by uninsuring the dying, eg, and they are so powerful, they now write policy for the gov. How many of your community have been murdered by these fascist elements?
jerrydoubleu 2 years ago
Again, please look up the definition of "fascism". And while you're at it please take a class in Macro-economics. Also please take the time to understand the definition of 'murder'. I swear, you rabble rousers do more harm to your own cause by using emotion driven object and mis-using terminology than anyone else. You can't win the debate by demonizing your opponent.
flockofgoat 2 years ago
I have so many degrees already, and i've had, macro and micro econ. You just refuse in your mind to "get" it. Looks like u ascribe to Objectivism like Ann and the Friedman's, and the most recent loser, Greenspan. Note to those who hide in the cynical redoubt of the stoic: When a person claims to be unemotional and objective, it is the subjective part of them that drives them.
jerrydoubleu 2 years ago
Yeah I bet you do, probably from Devry. Maybe you're a sociology prof. You're really good at using a lot of words to say nothing.
flockofgoat 2 years ago
flock, it is predictable that you don't get what i've said. Not Devry, but shame on you for putting down any education.
jerrydoubleu 2 years ago
Oh I understood it, but in the frame of our discussion it is meaningless. It's basically your cop out way of saying that because I don't agree with I'm swayed by my own emotions, were as you you are the only person invocing emotion into the debate. Example, you equating health care to fascism. Hardly an objective position to have. Stop projecting your inadequacies on me.
flockofgoat 2 years ago
no, you're not swayed by emotions that are out of your awareness. You're driven by fear, like most conservatives.
jerrydoubleu 2 years ago
Fear is an emotion and you just said I'm not swayed by emotion. I actually give more credit to people who use sane and rational thought and can construct an argument without resorting to violations of Godwin's law. But hey, that's me. You have fun in your tinfoil moon bat fort.
flockofgoat 2 years ago
again, calling people crazy is more than poor form ol chum. You don't feel your fear because it would overwhelm you and make you horribly uncomfortable.
jerrydoubleu 2 years ago
Well, when the shoe fits... I don't feel fear because there is nothing for me to fear.
flockofgoat 2 years ago
haha, Denial. u are well defended in your head.
jerrydoubleu 2 years ago
So let me ask you, then. Wht is it you think I'm afraid of and why? *(please call me a racist please call me a racist)*
flockofgoat 2 years ago
Where'd the racism come from? We were talking @ corporation special interests running the government.
jerrydoubleu 2 years ago
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We need health care reform and that is the bottom line. Doing nothing is not an option anymore so why not take the time to get the facts.
My profile has been converted into a health care resource. In the comment section you will find the answers to the most commonly asked questions as well as several other resources including the easy to read version of the bill (and the long one), Info on who is in the pockets of big Pharma and what you can do to help.
Smartassawhip 2 years ago
Yeah, like I'm going to believe some websites polling. That's about as reliable as getting your news from a blog.
jldurham6 2 years ago
or fox...HA <--win fosho
dyrsten 2 years ago
Fox plays to their audience and MSNBC/CNN plays to theirs. They've all been caught in lies and shady reporting..
jldurham6 2 years ago
why isn't the government stopping them or at least fining fox news. News is based on fact when you do make up stuff it is not news. it is just a bunch of assholes trying to brainwash people into believing what they think.
doink1422 2 years ago
Fox News=Pravda
DodgerFan1988 2 years ago
Old saying;
Anger is one letter short of danger. - Eleanor Roosevelt
TheFoulline 2 years ago 2