let me ask you this? how much gas did you burn making this video, did you use electricity? did you use heat? were you wearing clothing? did you have a snack while you made it? did you snack come from the fridge? is your computer made of plastic? if you answered yes to any of these then natural gas was involved if you dont like drilling then stop using my products!
Hi @natasprotector . Yes I use fuel. We happen to all be right here, right now. We all have to start from where we are!
So we are here. The question is about what direction should we all, as a society, move towards? Considering all information?
Unfortunately, much of these decisions are being made by distant government officials and rich people of the investor class, who seem to be thinking only about short term profits, while leaving a toxic legacy in local communities.
@billhuston what toxic legacy do you speak of? what distant gov't officals? and reasonable science? c'mon man reasonable science tells me that when you Frac a well for natural gas at 8,000 feet below the surface( thats 7,200 feet away from water sources) that frac mix is not going to migrate through 7,200 feet of rock,limestone, sandstone, dolomite, coal, shale rock. congiomerate, and what ever solid rock is laying under us. not to mention the chemicals used for this are in your house
@natasprotector You'd be surprised what will migrate through natural faults when it's under 15,000 PSI pressure. PS: I try not to keep benzene in my house.
@natasprotector What toxic legacy? You're kidding, right? Let's put it this way.... Please show me ONE place where gas drilling and/or hydrofracking has been done WITHOUT toxic effects: greenhouse gas emissions, polluted wells, surface spills, fish kills, sick animals, you name it..... Here, I'll save you some work. THERE IS NO SUCH PLACE! This activity leaves a toxic legacy EVERYWHERE it is done.
@billhuston i have 3 wells in my backyard in PA my animals are fine, my family is fine, no spills are on my land, no green house gases (which by the way is a myth, watching to much al gore) no polluted water on my land, i eat the fish out of the creek less than a mile away, so like i said at the begging of this, you spread"factual inaccuracies", I just named 1 place where this toxic legacy isn't happening.
Have you been reading the news about the drilling going on around you at all? Seriously man, wake up, there have been and currently are contaminations going on all over the world; Do I need to point out specific cases, or can you figure it out for yourself?
@Dandroidanimal you crack me up, you can make insulting comments to me such as your attack on my education level, but when i defend myself you delete and regulate what is said, you are a coward who hides behind a desk. wake up and join the real world, find a hobby and let us who work in the industry and have natural gas wells in our back yards drill where we are allowed to drill. you are jealous because you are not making the money we all aree making of oil and gas.
Delete and regulate? Wtf are you talking about, the guy who made this video deleted my comments because I wasn't as polite to you as he would want me to be.
Money has nothing to do with it, dude, it has to do with the fact that we all are neighbors, and what goes on underground on your property effects what goes on underground at mine. If you took 5 minutes, you could find many examples of this and other drilling processes resulting in severe environmental contamination.
@Dandroidanimal i have the right to do what i want on my property just like you have the right to do what you want on yours....this is america, USA, and i will defend to the death my rights to do so. I doubt you would do the same, you re probably the same kinda a person who says "i ll move to canada if there is a draft" coward
Actually, no, you don't have the right to do whatever you want on your property, buddy, there are limits to freedom. We have laws to keep people (who don't seem to care about polluting their own and eveyone elses living space) from doing certain things. You see, we live in this thing called "a society", where life is made easier, and better through the cooperation of its members. Not producing toxic waste withing a shared resource (the water table), is one way this happens.
"I doubt you would do the same, you re probably the same kinda a person who says "i ll move to canada if there is a draft" coward"
The fact that you would say something like this reveals to me that you are likely not very intelligent. If you don't want to look stupid, I would recommend not saying stuff like that.
@Dandroidanimal i have the right to do what i want on my property just like you have the right to do what you want on yours....this is america, USA, and i will defend to the death my rights to do so. I doubt you would do the same, you re probably the same kinda a person who says "i ll move to canada if there is a draft" coward.
i smell moron! do you believe everything people tell you, because if so i need 800,000 dollars by the end of the week or youtube is gonna crash, oh and might as well give it to me now because i also heard the world is going to end in 2012 thats only a year away, so stop wasting your time spreading lies. shame on you
Wow, drinking the kool aid I see...New York a desert? Dude get real. Obvious hype and overkill. But keep it up New York...here in PA we have been drilling wells for 150 years and this info is just not true. and guess what, they are still drilling through out the southern tier now in New York. Please inform yourselves before making dumb videos/statements. Horizontal drilling and fracing are not new practices!!!
@WVUfan4evr Deep, long-lateral drilling horizontal drilling IS new. Slick water, high volume hydrofracking IS new. This is why the Marcellus Shale is only now being exploited, because the technology has not existed before. (Note: that this process would not be economically viable, even with this new technology, without the exemption of the Clean Water Act and other environmental laws.)
The EPA hearings, the SGEIS review, are all because this is a NEW PROCESS.
@natasprotector I did look it up. There have been at least three recent technological innovations which make this process possible. 1) High volume, 2) Slick water, and 3) Horizontal-directional drilling. None of these were possible 20 years ago.
This is a very expensive processes. It takes great energy to get a little gas. It is also expensive to the environment. It would not be ECONOMICALLY viable without the exemptions from dozens of federal environmental laws....
I've read a lot about this issue in the news. Here in Germany such industrial undertakings wouldn't have a chance. It's a shame or rather a crime that the american government/ industry does this to its people. I hope the resistence of those concerned will stop this industrial madness!
VERY WELL DONE! OH! And I know for a fact that you can also add Alba, PA, Granville, PA, Gillette, PA and LeRoy PA to your list of contaminated water sites :(
DON'T FRACK ME!
aqua0501 7 months ago
@amfmful you a moron, stop spreading your lies, hippie
natasprotector 11 months ago
Sounds real constructive.
Dandroidanimal 1 year ago
@Dandroidanima: I am deleting all posts (including yours) which resort to name-calling and add nothing to the debate.
billhuston 1 year ago
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natasprotector 1 year ago
let me ask you this? how much gas did you burn making this video, did you use electricity? did you use heat? were you wearing clothing? did you have a snack while you made it? did you snack come from the fridge? is your computer made of plastic? if you answered yes to any of these then natural gas was involved if you dont like drilling then stop using my products!
natasprotector 1 year ago
Hi @natasprotector . Yes I use fuel. We happen to all be right here, right now. We all have to start from where we are!
So we are here. The question is about what direction should we all, as a society, move towards? Considering all information?
Unfortunately, much of these decisions are being made by distant government officials and rich people of the investor class, who seem to be thinking only about short term profits, while leaving a toxic legacy in local communities.
billhuston 1 year ago
@billhuston what toxic legacy do you speak of? what distant gov't officals? and reasonable science? c'mon man reasonable science tells me that when you Frac a well for natural gas at 8,000 feet below the surface( thats 7,200 feet away from water sources) that frac mix is not going to migrate through 7,200 feet of rock,limestone, sandstone, dolomite, coal, shale rock. congiomerate, and what ever solid rock is laying under us. not to mention the chemicals used for this are in your house
natasprotector 1 year ago
@natasprotector You'd be surprised what will migrate through natural faults when it's under 15,000 PSI pressure. PS: I try not to keep benzene in my house.
billhuston 1 year ago
@natasprotector What toxic legacy? You're kidding, right? Let's put it this way.... Please show me ONE place where gas drilling and/or hydrofracking has been done WITHOUT toxic effects: greenhouse gas emissions, polluted wells, surface spills, fish kills, sick animals, you name it..... Here, I'll save you some work. THERE IS NO SUCH PLACE! This activity leaves a toxic legacy EVERYWHERE it is done.
billhuston 1 year ago 2
@billhuston i have 3 wells in my backyard in PA my animals are fine, my family is fine, no spills are on my land, no green house gases (which by the way is a myth, watching to much al gore) no polluted water on my land, i eat the fish out of the creek less than a mile away, so like i said at the begging of this, you spread"factual inaccuracies", I just named 1 place where this toxic legacy isn't happening.
natasprotector 1 year ago
@natasprotector
Have you been reading the news about the drilling going on around you at all? Seriously man, wake up, there have been and currently are contaminations going on all over the world; Do I need to point out specific cases, or can you figure it out for yourself?
Dandroidanimal 1 year ago
please give me a local case? and you are not as smart as you think you are if you believe what the news says let along what videos say on YOUTUBE
natasprotector 1 year ago
@natasprotector
You should really go to college or something. You really have no idea what you're talking about.
You don't think those chemicals can make their way up? Well,
Dandroidanimal 1 year ago
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natasprotector 1 year ago
@Dandroidanimal you crack me up, you can make insulting comments to me such as your attack on my education level, but when i defend myself you delete and regulate what is said, you are a coward who hides behind a desk. wake up and join the real world, find a hobby and let us who work in the industry and have natural gas wells in our back yards drill where we are allowed to drill. you are jealous because you are not making the money we all aree making of oil and gas.
natasprotector 1 year ago
@natasprotector
Delete and regulate? Wtf are you talking about, the guy who made this video deleted my comments because I wasn't as polite to you as he would want me to be.
Money has nothing to do with it, dude, it has to do with the fact that we all are neighbors, and what goes on underground on your property effects what goes on underground at mine. If you took 5 minutes, you could find many examples of this and other drilling processes resulting in severe environmental contamination.
Dandroidanimal 1 year ago
@Dandroidanimal i have the right to do what i want on my property just like you have the right to do what you want on yours....this is america, USA, and i will defend to the death my rights to do so. I doubt you would do the same, you re probably the same kinda a person who says "i ll move to canada if there is a draft" coward
natasprotector 1 year ago
@natasprotector
Actually, no, you don't have the right to do whatever you want on your property, buddy, there are limits to freedom. We have laws to keep people (who don't seem to care about polluting their own and eveyone elses living space) from doing certain things. You see, we live in this thing called "a society", where life is made easier, and better through the cooperation of its members. Not producing toxic waste withing a shared resource (the water table), is one way this happens.
Dandroidanimal 1 year ago
@Dandroidanimal the legal right forgot i was talking to an 8th grader who needs their hand held during a debate
natasprotector 1 year ago
@Dandroidanimal and where in your "society" is this toxic waste, i will wait for the evidence.find it yet how about now.
natasprotector 1 year ago
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@natasprotector
"I doubt you would do the same, you re probably the same kinda a person who says "i ll move to canada if there is a draft" coward"
The fact that you would say something like this reveals to me that you are likely not very intelligent. If you don't want to look stupid, I would recommend not saying stuff like that.
Dandroidanimal 1 year ago
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@Dandroidanimal i have the right to do what i want on my property just like you have the right to do what you want on yours....this is america, USA, and i will defend to the death my rights to do so. I doubt you would do the same, you re probably the same kinda a person who says "i ll move to canada if there is a draft" coward.
natasprotector 1 year ago
i smell moron! do you believe everything people tell you, because if so i need 800,000 dollars by the end of the week or youtube is gonna crash, oh and might as well give it to me now because i also heard the world is going to end in 2012 thats only a year away, so stop wasting your time spreading lies. shame on you
natasprotector 1 year ago
Hi @natasprotector, I find the quality of the discussion is better if neither side insults the other or makes threats.
So, you accuse me of lies? Well, it's only a lie if it's untrue, and I knew it. You will have a hard time proving what I know, or don't.
So I would prefer we call them "factual inaccuracies". So, just curious, what are they?
I stated some facts, then made some projections based on reasonable science.
I'd be happy to correct anything inaccurate. Thanks, BH
billhuston 1 year ago
@billhuston and when were threats made? bc i made a sarcastic remark about "the sky is falling" routine that you seem to be pushing on your video!
natasprotector 1 year ago
Wow, drinking the kool aid I see...New York a desert? Dude get real. Obvious hype and overkill. But keep it up New York...here in PA we have been drilling wells for 150 years and this info is just not true. and guess what, they are still drilling through out the southern tier now in New York. Please inform yourselves before making dumb videos/statements. Horizontal drilling and fracing are not new practices!!!
WVUfan4evr 1 year ago
@WVUfan4evr Deep, long-lateral drilling horizontal drilling IS new. Slick water, high volume hydrofracking IS new. This is why the Marcellus Shale is only now being exploited, because the technology has not existed before. (Note: that this process would not be economically viable, even with this new technology, without the exemption of the Clean Water Act and other environmental laws.)
The EPA hearings, the SGEIS review, are all because this is a NEW PROCESS.
billhuston 1 year ago
@billhuston this is not a new process...look it up
natasprotector 1 year ago
@natasprotector I did look it up. There have been at least three recent technological innovations which make this process possible. 1) High volume, 2) Slick water, and 3) Horizontal-directional drilling. None of these were possible 20 years ago.
This is a very expensive processes. It takes great energy to get a little gas. It is also expensive to the environment. It would not be ECONOMICALLY viable without the exemptions from dozens of federal environmental laws....
billhuston 1 year ago
Great video! Let's keep spreading the information! People need to know! I sent you a holiday video, Happy Frackin' Holidays!
vbrockladyv 1 year ago
I've read a lot about this issue in the news. Here in Germany such industrial undertakings wouldn't have a chance. It's a shame or rather a crime that the american government/ industry does this to its people. I hope the resistence of those concerned will stop this industrial madness!
very good video, well done!
newcome880 1 year ago
germany............germany...hahahaahah i laughed so hard i spilled some of my oil
natasprotector 1 year ago
Final edit 3? Please put this up when you get to 10.
This is not well done. The narration is annoying and unnecessary. I got through 90 seconds Just put up the Gasland trailer instead.
murcuryvapor 1 year ago
@murcuryvapor And I'm against fraking.
murcuryvapor 1 year ago
then your against using your computer now get off
natasprotector 1 year ago
oops! And Burlington and Wellsboro PA also
howardse22 1 year ago
VERY WELL DONE! OH! And I know for a fact that you can also add Alba, PA, Granville, PA, Gillette, PA and LeRoy PA to your list of contaminated water sites :(
howardse22 1 year ago
@howardse22 Wow, thanks for the nice feedback and the updates, Howard.
billhuston 1 year ago
DRILL BABY DRILL!
Dude2Hot2BStr8 1 year ago