wether im carrying the PX4 subcompact or the Tomcat i always carry 1 in the chamber but then again thes 2 beretta's have actule saftys, the tomcat safty is a 1911 style so i can keep the hammer full cocked & put the safty on or just keep it down with the safty off. the PX4 subcompact safty is like the 92fs doubles as a decocker if the hammer if fully cocked i can drop the hammer with the safty nd no discharge will happen. this comment sounds soo gay LMFAO!
I used to ride motorcycles with a group of law enforcement officers and I asked their opinion. All agreed that only in the movies do you see a cop pull his pistol and then chamber a round. The guy sitting next to me illustrated. He put his hand up, index finger like a barrel, pressed it against my side and said, "bang you're dead." About a half second. That's too fast to be screwing with chambering a round in a semi-auto. I always carry my Sig P238 locked and loaded.
GSP have got long gangly legs and long claws and they get a little needy sometimes and they just have to climb up in your lap. They will stick their paws anywhere, I've had them paw me in the mouth several times. No wonder people lock them up in a kennel outside. That's not for me though I kind of like a 60 lb lap dog sometimes. Anyway I'm afraid my dog would shot me with my own gun in my own chair accidently of course.
LOL, your comment on walking in front of it. What's scary is hyper dogs and the idea of putting a sa without safety on, or a glock on the floor for any time. You know nap time. I used a rabbit's foot at the range. Yes Virginia, the glock and no safety 1911 will fire. ROFL Changed my napping habits. Yea people are scared of their weapons.
I agree with General Nathan Bedford Forrest who said be the firstest with the mostest. Learn to carry your gun safely and learn to draw and fire it until it is second nature and can be done without thinking. The simplest plans are always the best plans and any time you can remove complexity you are ahead of the game. Carrying a revolver involves draw, aim, fire no safeties or slides to mess with, you can't get simpler or faster than that. Carry a revolver(preferably a large caliber revolver!)
@HYBRIDCOMBATIVES True but a Hollywood style gunfight that goes on for ten minutes and use multiple rounds are rare to nonexistent for civilians so that is not a huge worry for me. Revolvers can be reloaded very fast. When I shot in competition many years ago we were not that much slower than the semi auto guys and certainly much faster than someone who has had little to no training. Also if I have just put six rounds of 357 down range there should not be much return fire.
@Nebulax123 I shoot competition and revolver shooters are no where near fast enough to keep up with hi cap shooters (outside of Miculek). Shoot a sub 5 second El Presidente with a wheel gun and you will shut me up.I understand the statistics I teach combatives, but I prefer to not operate within mathematical assumptions. 2 extra mags is my personal requirement for myself. I fully understand your point and cannot really disagree with your point as I have carried .357 mag wheelguns over the years.
@HYBRIDCOMBATIVES Again I will say if I am looking at Military style combat sure give me a semi auto and all the mags I can carry. The odds of you facing that as a civilian are probably less than getting struck by lightning. I live in a not great part of Atlanta and have heard lots of gun fire and none of it went over a few shots from both shooters. After 61 years I believe in a revolver because they have never failed me and semi autos have more than once failed to fire.
@Nebulax123 odds mean NOTHING when it happens to you. Combat is combat whether it is in your bedroom against an invader at 3 am, a couple of gang assholes in a walmart parking lot. Defending your life is defending your life. I dont play odds. Preparation beats odds all day long.
@HYBRIDCOMBATIVES Being prepared is never wrong. I consider myself prepared with what I carry and you consider yourself prepared with what you carry. If I run out of ammo it will be bad for me, if your gun jams and you can't clear it all the reloads in the world won't help. We will have to agree to disagree on this one. I sincerely hope neither of us has to ever find out.
Not that you need the affirmation, but this physicist sees it just as you do. ;) When one's life is at stake, EVERY single variable that can be eliminated SHOULD be eliminated. With the safety features of modern pistols, I don't even see how an argument for carrying without a round chambered still has much support. It is asking for trouble.
@IIDASHII The reason is fear. People are afraid of their guns. They are so ingrained with the irrational fear that guns are so dangerous that they fear them even when they are no threat. A gun left laying on a table with the hammer cocked and the safety off will never fire, but people would still be afraid to walk in front of it.
@TheYankeeMarshal It took me four years to overcome my fear of Glocks. I finally reached the point where I felt comfortable in carrying one. However, while I look for the right holster for it, I'm practicing drawing it almost nightly. I carry condition one, because any other carry method will increase my chances of getting killed or being seriously injured due to the reasons you stated. Good video!
Damn good argument. I carry with a round in the chamber because like you said when your startled into pulling a weapon you are not thinking about the steps you need to accomplish to fire your weapon.
I conceal carry, use a double action revolver, I keep five rounds and leave the hammer on the empty. All I have to do is draw and pull the trigger. Having a round in the chamber relies on a drop safety if you drop it, and a lot of other mechanical safeties. The most important safety is between your ears. You cannot safely carry a gun with a round in the chamber, I don't care what kind of guarantee the factory gives about foolproof safeties - any mechanical safety is NOT FOOLPROOF.
@bullss21 I try never to throw this around lightly, but you sir (with all due respect) are a dumbass. Either that or a troll. The VAAASSSST majority of (in fact almost all) ND's are from pulling the trigger. Therefore you have no improved your safety at all. You have just reduced your firepower. The transfer bar on a revolver is not going to allow it to fire without the trigger pulled. The part of the gun that is not fool proof 8is the trigger and the person that pulls it is the fool.
@bullss21 You are a moron. Thousands of concealed carry holders, local police, federal agents, and anyone else who carrys prove you wrong every day. I carried all day long safely with a chambered round.
Your method of carry is very valid for very old revolvers. If they are dropped and the hammer hits the ground first they can go off. So people would only carry like you do to prevent that. But with the new ones with a transfer bar this can't happen. I have a Ruger and there is just no way for the hammer to strike the primer without the transfer bar in place and that only happens when the trigger is pulled, You could beat on it with a sledge hammer and it wouldn't go off.
@50zone Look, I know a lot of people, including law enforcement officers, carry with a round in the chamber. That's their prerogative. My point is, you should never fully rely on a mechanical safety. If it is mechanical, it CAN fail. If it can happen, it will (Murphy's Law). And it is most certainly possible for a mechanical safety to fail. Perhaps modern firearms have made it less likely, but a lot of the older firearms are NOT dropsafe. The only safety I trust is inside my head
@bullss21 Then don't put your finger on the trigger. if you cannot trust yourself to not do that then be self aware enough to know you need more training.
@TheYankeeMarshal If I have my finger on the trigger, I have full intention to fire. Call me stupid, call me a moron; no one should ever fully trust a mechanical safety. Knew a friend who racked a round into his pistol, the sear was worn out. When the slide came forward, it discharged through the door of his pickup. Where was the safety then? I'll keep my trusty .357 Revolver, leave the hammer on an empty, draw, and pull the trigger. I also keep a speedload when I carry. ;)
@bullss21 the safety was pointing the weapon in a safe direction and knowing what your target is and what is beyond it. Rule number 2 and rule number 4. Read them.
@bullss21 Would that be the same head that prevents your finger from being placed on the the trigger until your are ready to fire? I have been shooting,and teaching for over 20 years including military service and have never seen a "safety" fail. I have however seen people put their finger on the trigger and cause a negligent discharge. Blaming the "safety" is a crutch for improper discipline and training.
@HYBRIDCOMBATIVES I'm not blaming a safety for anything, my revolver does not have one. I'm stating that a person should not fully rely on it. The best safety is proper training, mindset, and will. I used to carry a loaded P38 that had a hard first DA. Went to a wheel gun as a personal preference. Grew up around guns, and was told not to have a round in the chamber until you were ready to fire. But this was when not every gun out there made was drop safe like it is today.
Also you didn't mention, but if you are in a situation like an armed robbery in a store and you are in the back or out of view, racking your gun is a dead give away of your firearm and I'd prefer if nobody could hear me before pulling the trigger.
Well man I can see your point about the "Slight possible malfunctoins" when racking your slide, but if you've got a gun that isn't very prone to malfunctions this is kind of a moot point. And also, how often are you going to be cowboy quickdrawing in everyday life?
I keep a round out of the chamber because I carry IWB on my front, and dont like having a round pointed at my cock. Plus, I'm not going to be getting in a duel any time soon (I hope). Either way though, its all preference.
depends on how you're carrying the weapon. If you are carrying it in a holster, chambered round...if you are carrying a small auto in your front pants pocket, then empty chamber makes sense.
ive never been into a fight without knowing i was going to get into it theres pushing and verbal going on so theres time to rack a round. i pulled my xd once and the click clack scared the shit out of the kid rying to intimidate me with his hand in his bag on a snicker bar. i just dont see having a round in my chamber in a single action gun nice vieo man
@ chapimfeliz not true. I wear size pants 34, no belly and walk around with an H&KUSP45 CT plus my back up Glock 27. I wear normal clothes. It was definitively a disrespectful comment. Internet and cars are good for passive-aggressive types. (I'm not an acquaintance of the Yankee but your comment bothered me, plus I just had my Friday night whiskey).
Hey I have the same T-shirt. Got mine from JCPenney. Is hard to concealed a gun without a belly like yours, I have no belly myself, how to concealed my HK usp compact ?
Thanks for information. I have a pistol (P-22) and wanted to see what would be the safest way to carry and or use quickly. I am new to fire arms and am planning to take training course. The one i own is only for home protection . A pistol i want to get is the revolver type .Possibly the S&W .22 or a Colt. not sure yet. Or a 5 shot pocket pistol . What would you recomend. I knoe that for it to be safe , a single chamber on a revolver has to be empty and hammer on the chamber (not cocked)
@TheYankeeMarshal Would you consider my gun to have an advantage (.357 sig) Glock 31, since a 9mm .355 bullet is pushed into a .40 chamber, more room for the round to find its place to sit in the chamber?
@SSSDiaz7 All bottle neck rounds do have an advantage when it comes to chambering reliably, but not enough of an advantage to make it worth carrying without my gun loaded.
Just for the record I carry both of my weapons "hot" and assume all my weapons are ALWAYS loaded. This comment was just following the discussion/comments trail before me.
I enjoy you videos.That's was exactly my point: ALL FIGHTS ARE LAST DITCH EFFORTS.My best friend/family lost the use of one hand during a war and he's permanently injured.He will do EVERYTHING with his good hand only, no other help.Police officers walk up to him on the range cause they cant believe his speed (training & never giving up).This "technique" is wired into my 48 year old brain just as the fact that anything around me will become a weapon when fighting for my life.Great topic.Keep the
Racking the slide using the rear sights (certain guns such as Glock) is commonly & routinely recommended to military & LEOs.You won't damage the sights & it works.There are "patches" you can attach to the gun in order to make the surface rough enough).If you're wearing a suit...try a harder surface (shoe, belt, steering wheel, or just f*** the suit - your life is on the line).
@SOSBELLY Please tell me you don't actually believe that is a "recommended" method. It is not. It is sometimes taught as an emergency, last ditch effort method...but not a recommended one. The Israelis only use it because of an archaic and outdated law. They do not prefer it. They are just making the best out of a bad situation.
In Israel, many of my contacts carry their pistols without a round up, mag in of course. They train to draw and chamber a round then fire, and they are quick. I carried a 45 for years on duty and I really did not like the idea to have the hammer back with a round in the chamber. The weapon is designed to be carried that way and a 45 usually has a grip safety that also prevents. Having a round in the chamber means a round will go when the hammer falls. Many weapons are safe, including the 45.
I didn't catch it if you said it, but my biggest concern is what if you can only use one hand? while it is possible to rack a slide one handed its is not easy, and can be dangerous.
Anyway if you are in a struggle, and you are able to get your weapon, but you need a second hand to rack the slide, you are in a very bad position, IMO.
I've been an LEO for 25+ yrs. it is MY opinion that carrying with an empty chamber would be a disadvantage in a deadly force scenario, for reasons stated by previous poster. The MOST important thing, regardless of how u chose to carry, is to train/practice which ever method you choose. You will react to a threat the way you practice TO react to a threat. If you practice drawing, racking, then addressing the threat that is what you will do when under stress..... automatically (if practiced e
Good explanation about the added risk of failure to feed when not carrying w/ one in the pipe. I've always been of the opinion that if you're not ready to carry with a bullet chambered then you're not ready to carry concealed at all. If you're afraid of malfunction before unholstering or you doubt your ability to be safe with it loaded, how can you be confident/competent with it shooting under pressure? Put in the practice hours and rounds and the comfort/confidence/competence will come.
Okay, there is something that must be considered. The quickest way to clear an assailant's hand off your firearm is to discharge it. Close quarters going from deployment to employment and that takes you're out of the fight in less than a second. I train and train others that when deploying and your assailant is on it, discharge it. They will let go. You may have a feed failure, but you have control of the weapon. That is why one is in the chamber.
@1942nuclear The weakest part of your argument, other than it denotes a lack of understanding of guns, is that you keep saying "they say" and "they think." Fact is a gun is completely safe with one in the chamber as long as you handle it properly. If you want to say it is not safe for YOU because YOU have poor gun handling habits that is one thing, but to say it is generally unsafe for people who handle guns properly is false.
@1942nuclear If he is afraid of his gun with one in the chamber thaen he is not someone I would take gun advice from...period. It shows a complete lack of both experience and understanding. Anyone can own a gunshop. It does not make them an expert. Especially not with modern firearms. I find a lot of these old guys that hold onto outdated ideas and have no idea how modern firearms work.
@1942nuclear I have watched some of his videos before. The only time I ever saw him say to definitely not carry with a round in the chamber is when someone is mexican carrying a gun.
@1942nuclear apparently berry from moss pawn doesn't feel comfortable with a round in the chamber and that is understandable. but you have to be borderline retarded to think having to chamber a round is just as fast and is as reliable as having one chambered.
@1942nuclear No offense, but this is a pretty lame attempt at an appeal to authority argument. Most any gun safety instructor, gun shop owner, firearms trainer, etc will tell you to carry with one in the chamber. LEO's all carry with one in the chamber and they handle their guns daily. Drawing and racking under duress is a ridiculous idea.
@1942nuclear Actually, you do have to prove it because you are wrong. All of your opinions are ones of someone with no true experience with firearms and you try to validate them by placing those opinions on others in positions of supposed authority. This is not a valid debate because one side is just an uninformed opinion and the other is factual. Name one case of a Glock just "going off" in public,
I rode motorcycles with several members of law enforcement and I discussed this same issue with them. A 20 year veteran imitated pulling a gun, put his finger in my side and said "you're dead" all in one second. He said to never carry a gun without one in the chamber-he said that pulling your gun and then racking a round in with the slide, only works in the movies and will get you killed in the real world. Good video.
@Gunacctivist I would carry a Glock loaded. People that wouldn't are usually inexperienced gun owners that are afraid of guns that do not have manual safeties.
i am with you brother , to carry a gun not chambered is like being unarmed , the needs to be ready to go you will be under stress ,u dont need to add time purposly you dont need.
Wow. There are a lot of gun owners out here that dont carry with a round chambered. I personally know three people that do not. They are not really into guns anyway. But, when the shit hits the fan I will be ready. They will not. I think about that when I am around them. I will be up front facing the threat. They will have to hide and load their guns. And maybe screw it up from the adrenaline rush.I dont see a reason to carry an unloaded gun. Just my opinion. To each is own. Stay safe all.
Well said Yankee Marshall. I have been carrying for 27 years and I always carry with a round chambered. These people carry a gun, dont have enough confidence in themselves or they are scared of the gun. Try feeding the first round on a small 380, or a 9mm. They will misfeed when injecting the first round. Unless you use the slide release. Who's gonna carry a gun with the slide locked back? Its also a distraction and pulls your attention off target. Good video.I hope more gun owners watch this..
Mr. TheYankeeMarshal, what you just said is the most insanely idiotic thing I have ever heard. At no point in you incoherent rambling were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. We are all now dumber for having had listened to it.
also..try racking a slide cleanly and positively when you are under life threatening s stress...fine motor skills go out the window or at the very least deteriorate to a high degree
@ms3bani neither is drawing the pistol...however it is more difficult to do smoothly when under life threatening stress....why add to it by needing to add an extra step under stress ?
@ms3bani i never said or implied that it was inappropriate for someone else...it's to each their own.. I do not carry on an empty chamber, my carry pistol has a thumb safety,and my holster uses friction for retention ( crossbreed supertuck )...perhaps i needed to EMPHASIZE all of the reasons I mentioned there are why I do not carry on an empty chamber..pardon me for assuming it was a given that i was refering to the reasons i do NOT do those things and the reason(s) why (eyeroll)
Ive been robbed at gun point.I agree with your other video.DO NOT WEAR ON YOUR ANKLE!I had a .38 on my ankle & couldn't get to it.Take it from someone who's been through it.You have NO TIME to pull weapon,rack slide,& fire.You dont know when its coming.The robbers sprint run right at you & overwhelm you.I had 3 secs to react.The guy had his gun to my head & took 4 dollars & ran away.Luckily no one was hurt.I couldn't get to my ankle holster while his gun was on me.I was a rookie and didnt know.
With combined Military and LE of 28 yrs anytime I see any posting by someone talking about not having a round in the chamber indicates to me that person has never been in combat or up against real bad guys. If you are going to carry, carry it with a round in the chamber and train on your wpn for petes sake.
All these arguments about having a round in the chamber are simply silly. Step one,don't carry a Glock, or striker fired automatic. Any double action,be it a revolver or automatic,is plenty safe,because the first cocking trigger pulls are Heavy, not like a Glock type gun.Any one that believes a double action is anything like Glock trigger, well,knows nothing about guns.So chamber your round in your double action gun. DAO is okay, but D/A S/A is way better, no need to put your safety on,its safe
@surfside006 Why would you recommend NOT carrying a striker fired weapon? I carry a G19 chambered and wouldn't think of anything else. The first time you pull the trigger the weapon performs exactly the same as every other time you pull the trigger.
I agree about keeping it chambered but my Glock has a much better feel when I carry over my Taurus.
@Klips17 If you feel comfortable carrying a chambered Glock? Have at it. I have a G-19,G-23,G-26 all have Crimson Trace Laser Grips, and plenty of holsters of all kinds.
I have never carried any Glock Chambered. All my other 10 guns are DAO,D/A S/A and two revolvers. All others sub compact. 9 light weight. I would never carry a cocked gun.
On D/A your trigger finger cocks the weapon.Obviously Glock has a big following, I am not a Glock,or Striker fired fan. I l prefer D/A S/A guns
Carrying with an empty chamber in a semi-auto assumes that you will only be "attacked" by a man with a pointy stick standing off ten feet or so.
What do you do when one hand has a death grip on the bad guy's wrist (wielding a knife or gun) and your other hand manages to draw your firearm? Click! Now chamber a round with your telekinetic powers? Maybe poke him in the ribs and make him giggle?
Rounds usually don't cycle in Semi-auto because of bad loads....I have never had a jam from racking. I carry a Glock so no safety except my finger on the trigger or no round in the chamber
I don't really understand why you guys focus so much on speed. Most muggers don't carry guns, and if they do, they already have it in their hand so they have you beat anyway.
I've been delivering pizza for years, and one thing I've learned, is to ALWAYS be aware of your surroundings. No one is just going to sneak up behind me or pop up from behind a bush and get me
I pocket carry with an empty chamber & I'm pretty quick, but what you said about FTF I think I'll keep it chambered
Good video... but I would not carry a revolver. Have you ever run a tactical match with a revolver? It is REAL tough. Train, train, train... but with a pistol. When you carry, the bullet belongs in the chamber. If you have to rack the slide, that can give you away.
Anyone who wants gun control, I say keep you finger OFF the trigger until ready to shoot. That's control! That will also keep you from "blowing a whole in your butt in haste".
Carrying with your chamber empty also ties up two hands. In the event you have to defend yourself at close range you might not have a second hand to use.
continued: so heres what i do. i used to carry with one in the chamber on safe. luckely my primary cary weapon has a nice smooth easy to switch ambidextrous safety. yes it is another action but less that chambering a around. you can also do this one handed, left or right if needed. with the holster i use now i carry chambered with out the saftey on as i have more experience and becasue of the type of holster. i use different procedures for different guns and holsters.
dont forget to mention that wehn in a situation where your are in fear of your life. how nervous you would be and mistakes can be made in that time. now add in that you are making the decision to take potentially take someones life. theres a lot that would be running through someones mind at the time of needting to draw a weapon. with saying that i feel the less actions needed to complete would be best. but also of the flip side you may fire the weapon on accident becasue of the same reasons.
For me, carrying with one in the pipe depends of what type of firearm it is.
For example, there is no way in hell I would carry a stock glock with one in the chamber. However, a glock with a manual safety would be a different story.
@kevo1264 racking slide with one hand, using holster. you can also us back of your shoes, a table or even a belt. training videos will give you more examples of how to do this if u decide to get one. most military & police carry semi auto handguns so racking side with one hand is an important to learn
There are plenty of ways to rack one handed. But this was more in reference to a split second self defense situation. While all of these are plausible methods, just carry condition 0-1. Was all I was trying to say, because you never know what situation you could be in.
@TheNopedawg That show bothers me sooo much. I used to live in Huntsville, AL and I worked for both the Space & Rocket Center and Marshall Space Flight during my time there. Nobody there talks like that. They "hick" it up so bad for the cameras.
I have a Rugger LCR and I keep the chamber empty. I don't have a slide to rack thank heavens and the action is very smooth and not to hard. I would agree with you with a bigger or harder action gun like a glock.
@felicianomiko I have to ask. Why in the world would you carry a modern revolver with the hammer on an empty chamber? You could beat the gun with a hammer and the round in front of the firing pin would not fire. Modern revolvers cannot fire without the trigger pulled fully to the rear due to the transfer bar. If you somehow accidently pulled the trigger the cylinder is going to advance to the next round and fire.
@TheYankeeMarshal I know about the advance to the next round. That's the chamber that is empty, not the one that actually lines up with the cylinder. What I mean by 'empty chamber' is, if the trigger is pulled it won't fire a bullet the first time. That's just a safety precaution because if I ever have to draw under fire, which I have never done, I don't want to blow a whole in my butt in my haste. Or any of a hundred other things that could go wrong.
@TheYankeeMarshal We do the best we can with what we've got and hope it's enough. Hindsight is 20/20. I have a gun, know how to use it and carry it. I'm already way ahead of the game. If my life is forfeit over a 10th of a second, then it was meant to be. I'm fine with that.
@felicianomiko I mean this in the nicest way possible but your logic is seriously flawed. Think about it. There are only tenths of seconds to be utilized in a deadly force encounter. Adding an extra step seems kind of silly to me. Please don't get in a gun fight because although it will be difficult to shoot yourself, the bad guy will most definitely have shot you. Modern day handguns are designed to carry fully loaded. It is up to you to train to ensure that you don't hurt someone.
Your first shot is suppose to be the most important shot you will ever do when you defend yourself with gun.You may not be able to fire the 2nd time. Your negligence fire which you anticipated is not by reason of your gun having a load in the chamber but by unsafe gun handling. keep practicing to keep your finger out of the trigger and also out of the trigger guard and you will not negligently fire on your butt.
@deodato1127 I appreciate your opinion as just that an opinion. I have an opinion too which I shared. I am insulted by your conclusion that I have unsafe gun handling habits. I assure you that I do not. My finger is NEVER on the trigger unless I am aiming at a target downrange thank you very much. I feel safer carrying the gun the way I do. Deal with it. You guys carry with the chamber loaded. Fine. I don't. suck it up.
lets put it this way, a police officer carrys a gun open carry 90 precent of the time. and they still have a round in the chamber because of time and adding a step to shooting could cost a life
Very good points articulated in this video! I don't know if its been brought up (not wanting to read through7 pages of comments, haha) but there's also the possibility that you may not have the use of your weak hand in a fight either. Also, I'm sure alot of y'all have seen that video of the jewelry store owner who gets shot up after he has to take an extra split second to chamber a round. He most likely would have died anyway but who knows what would have happened if he had a round chambered
I recently came across your videos and I truly like those that I’ve seen. I’ve been considering CC and have done a lot a research, note just research, on the topic. I have some questions for you. 1. Is the revolver you have on your side your CC firearm? 2. If so is the hammer on an empty chamber? 3. If not. Why?
Thanks for your vids. I’m sure I’ll enjoy the others.
@moderncaveman100 It is one of my CCW choices. No, the hammer is on a live round. Modern revolvers have transfer bar safeties. The gun cannot fire without pulling the trigger.
I carry XD40 SC with empty chamber. I can't justify the liablity of a live striker-fired chamber, with a 1911 I might consider with hammer down (conditon 3?).... but glocks and xd;s, full mag, empty hole.
@67mustangreg I used to think that way too when I first started carrying. I'm not trying to say you're inexperienced, I've never met you, but let me say this, carrying without one in the chamber invites you to be a little more careless with your gun... which is a very bad idea. Just keep your finger and other objects out of the trigger guard and you'll be fine.
I stand corrected about my last statement of cocked as intent to use, for it simply seems not to matter... a pistol is a deadly weapon, cocked or not! "But the mere fact that the pistol was not cocked does not deprive the act of essential feature of present ability to do harm with the weapon, for no appreciable length of time is required to cock a pistol, and therefore the ability to inflict a bodily injury is immediately present." HUIE v. STATE (Arkansas)
Where in the world do you get those dorky shirts? Great video by the way........now that I hear that arguement, I will now carry with 1 in the pipe. I never actually thought of that might happen, my original school of thought was to carry with no rounds in the chamber. Then again, I only got my CHL a year ago. I am forbidden from carrying even with a license where I work, (Statutory law) so I only carry when I out with my family or by myself on my days off. Thanks for sharing!!!
I have woundered about the chambered or not debockle. Personaly I carry a chambered load however several folks think it's dangerous. Firearm technology has greatly improved since the days of the Saturday night special.
@kewlneasy88 You are the type of person that gives the rest of us law abiding people a bad name. Just because you have a gun does not mean your Rambo! It is people like you who should not be allowed to own any type of weapon, and nothing sharper then a crayon! Your FIRST reaction should NEVER be to shot someone with a gun.
revolver guys like me are laughing our asses off. always loaded. all the time. BUT if you carry chamber empty you MUST PRACTICE PRACTICE PRACTICE PRACTICE getting that weapon into battery and usable. It's your choice and i'm glad you choose to carry, with bit of luck non of us will ever need them.
does having a round in the chamber decrease the chance of failure? yes. Does it also increase the chance of an accident? yes. The way I see it I'm more protected with a firearm that does not have a round in the chamber than I am with no firearm at all, which is the status of most people most of the time. I would rather decrease the chance of accident and make myself a little less protected by not keeping it chambered.
@scottmuck The way I see it is no matter how you carry be consistent. Myself I carry one in the pipe with a Glock 27, S&W 642, M&P9c and a LCP depending on the weather and the clothes I'm wearing. The constant between the four is if I'm forced to use one in self defense all I have to do is draw the gun, it'll be ready to go at that point because they're all carried hot and in a good holster. The only way any of these guns will go off is if I pull the trigger.
It is a Fish and Game Violation in my state to carry any weapon with a round chambered. Exemption for Duty Carry. The argument about quickness, failure, etc... are all null! You should be aware of your surroundings at all times and know how to react to an attacker with or with out a weapon. That weapon is just one more layer of protection, knowing how to cope and then deal with an attack comes first, shooting back comes second. Its always better to try an escape, then take someones life.
wether im carrying the PX4 subcompact or the Tomcat i always carry 1 in the chamber but then again thes 2 beretta's have actule saftys, the tomcat safty is a 1911 style so i can keep the hammer full cocked & put the safty on or just keep it down with the safty off. the PX4 subcompact safty is like the 92fs doubles as a decocker if the hammer if fully cocked i can drop the hammer with the safty nd no discharge will happen. this comment sounds soo gay LMFAO!
ZombieMasterEd25 2 days ago
Everybody go flame RaylinGivens dumb ass Condition three video. He is a ridiculous clownshoe that needs to be adjusted.
HYBRIDCOMBATIVES 3 days ago 2
I used to ride motorcycles with a group of law enforcement officers and I asked their opinion. All agreed that only in the movies do you see a cop pull his pistol and then chamber a round. The guy sitting next to me illustrated. He put his hand up, index finger like a barrel, pressed it against my side and said, "bang you're dead." About a half second. That's too fast to be screwing with chambering a round in a semi-auto. I always carry my Sig P238 locked and loaded.
LVen21 3 days ago
I've got two dogs one is a spastic German Short Hair in the house so I don't carry my gun in the house.
rossinsr 3 days ago
@rossinsr Switch to a positive retention holster.
XGCScrappy 3 days ago
@XGCScrappy
GSP have got long gangly legs and long claws and they get a little needy sometimes and they just have to climb up in your lap. They will stick their paws anywhere, I've had them paw me in the mouth several times. No wonder people lock them up in a kennel outside. That's not for me though I kind of like a 60 lb lap dog sometimes. Anyway I'm afraid my dog would shot me with my own gun in my own chair accidently of course.
rossinsr 3 days ago
@rossinsr what difference does that make?
HYBRIDCOMBATIVES 3 days ago
Excellent video.
ACTcombat1 3 days ago
LOL, your comment on walking in front of it. What's scary is hyper dogs and the idea of putting a sa without safety on, or a glock on the floor for any time. You know nap time. I used a rabbit's foot at the range. Yes Virginia, the glock and no safety 1911 will fire. ROFL Changed my napping habits. Yea people are scared of their weapons.
XGCScrappy 3 days ago
I agree with General Nathan Bedford Forrest who said be the firstest with the mostest. Learn to carry your gun safely and learn to draw and fire it until it is second nature and can be done without thinking. The simplest plans are always the best plans and any time you can remove complexity you are ahead of the game. Carrying a revolver involves draw, aim, fire no safeties or slides to mess with, you can't get simpler or faster than that. Carry a revolver(preferably a large caliber revolver!)
Nebulax123 3 days ago
@Nebulax123 until you need to reload. The heavy double action triggers are not near as fast as a striker fired auto.
HYBRIDCOMBATIVES 3 days ago
@HYBRIDCOMBATIVES True but a Hollywood style gunfight that goes on for ten minutes and use multiple rounds are rare to nonexistent for civilians so that is not a huge worry for me. Revolvers can be reloaded very fast. When I shot in competition many years ago we were not that much slower than the semi auto guys and certainly much faster than someone who has had little to no training. Also if I have just put six rounds of 357 down range there should not be much return fire.
Nebulax123 3 days ago
@Nebulax123 I shoot competition and revolver shooters are no where near fast enough to keep up with hi cap shooters (outside of Miculek). Shoot a sub 5 second El Presidente with a wheel gun and you will shut me up.I understand the statistics I teach combatives, but I prefer to not operate within mathematical assumptions. 2 extra mags is my personal requirement for myself. I fully understand your point and cannot really disagree with your point as I have carried .357 mag wheelguns over the years.
HYBRIDCOMBATIVES 2 days ago
@HYBRIDCOMBATIVES Again I will say if I am looking at Military style combat sure give me a semi auto and all the mags I can carry. The odds of you facing that as a civilian are probably less than getting struck by lightning. I live in a not great part of Atlanta and have heard lots of gun fire and none of it went over a few shots from both shooters. After 61 years I believe in a revolver because they have never failed me and semi autos have more than once failed to fire.
Nebulax123 2 days ago
@Nebulax123 odds mean NOTHING when it happens to you. Combat is combat whether it is in your bedroom against an invader at 3 am, a couple of gang assholes in a walmart parking lot. Defending your life is defending your life. I dont play odds. Preparation beats odds all day long.
HYBRIDCOMBATIVES 1 day ago
@HYBRIDCOMBATIVES Being prepared is never wrong. I consider myself prepared with what I carry and you consider yourself prepared with what you carry. If I run out of ammo it will be bad for me, if your gun jams and you can't clear it all the reloads in the world won't help. We will have to agree to disagree on this one. I sincerely hope neither of us has to ever find out.
Nebulax123 1 day ago
Not that you need the affirmation, but this physicist sees it just as you do. ;) When one's life is at stake, EVERY single variable that can be eliminated SHOULD be eliminated. With the safety features of modern pistols, I don't even see how an argument for carrying without a round chambered still has much support. It is asking for trouble.
IIDASHII 4 days ago
@IIDASHII The reason is fear. People are afraid of their guns. They are so ingrained with the irrational fear that guns are so dangerous that they fear them even when they are no threat. A gun left laying on a table with the hammer cocked and the safety off will never fire, but people would still be afraid to walk in front of it.
TheYankeeMarshal 3 days ago
@TheYankeeMarshal It took me four years to overcome my fear of Glocks. I finally reached the point where I felt comfortable in carrying one. However, while I look for the right holster for it, I'm practicing drawing it almost nightly. I carry condition one, because any other carry method will increase my chances of getting killed or being seriously injured due to the reasons you stated. Good video!
sabretooth75 2 days ago
Damn good argument. I carry with a round in the chamber because like you said when your startled into pulling a weapon you are not thinking about the steps you need to accomplish to fire your weapon.
swpoison 5 days ago
Man i wish u'd keep that major text out of it; i'm so concentrating on what ur saying I have to keep rewinding the video
pocobuen 6 days ago
awesome tee shirt !
uscray 6 days ago
I conceal carry, use a double action revolver, I keep five rounds and leave the hammer on the empty. All I have to do is draw and pull the trigger. Having a round in the chamber relies on a drop safety if you drop it, and a lot of other mechanical safeties. The most important safety is between your ears. You cannot safely carry a gun with a round in the chamber, I don't care what kind of guarantee the factory gives about foolproof safeties - any mechanical safety is NOT FOOLPROOF.
bullss21 6 days ago
@bullss21 I try never to throw this around lightly, but you sir (with all due respect) are a dumbass. Either that or a troll. The VAAASSSST majority of (in fact almost all) ND's are from pulling the trigger. Therefore you have no improved your safety at all. You have just reduced your firepower. The transfer bar on a revolver is not going to allow it to fire without the trigger pulled. The part of the gun that is not fool proof 8is the trigger and the person that pulls it is the fool.
TheYankeeMarshal 6 days ago 13
@bullss21 You are a moron. Thousands of concealed carry holders, local police, federal agents, and anyone else who carrys prove you wrong every day. I carried all day long safely with a chambered round.
Lord666Belial 6 days ago
seems you must drop yours quite often...
COLT45keith 6 days ago
@bullss21
Your method of carry is very valid for very old revolvers. If they are dropped and the hammer hits the ground first they can go off. So people would only carry like you do to prevent that. But with the new ones with a transfer bar this can't happen. I have a Ruger and there is just no way for the hammer to strike the primer without the transfer bar in place and that only happens when the trigger is pulled, You could beat on it with a sledge hammer and it wouldn't go off.
50zone 3 days ago
@50zone Look, I know a lot of people, including law enforcement officers, carry with a round in the chamber. That's their prerogative. My point is, you should never fully rely on a mechanical safety. If it is mechanical, it CAN fail. If it can happen, it will (Murphy's Law). And it is most certainly possible for a mechanical safety to fail. Perhaps modern firearms have made it less likely, but a lot of the older firearms are NOT dropsafe. The only safety I trust is inside my head
bullss21 3 days ago
@bullss21 Then don't put your finger on the trigger. if you cannot trust yourself to not do that then be self aware enough to know you need more training.
TheYankeeMarshal 3 days ago
@TheYankeeMarshal If I have my finger on the trigger, I have full intention to fire. Call me stupid, call me a moron; no one should ever fully trust a mechanical safety. Knew a friend who racked a round into his pistol, the sear was worn out. When the slide came forward, it discharged through the door of his pickup. Where was the safety then? I'll keep my trusty .357 Revolver, leave the hammer on an empty, draw, and pull the trigger. I also keep a speedload when I carry. ;)
bullss21 3 days ago
@bullss21 the safety was pointing the weapon in a safe direction and knowing what your target is and what is beyond it. Rule number 2 and rule number 4. Read them.
HYBRIDCOMBATIVES 1 day ago
@bullss21 Well at we least agree on one thing, we both conceal carry.
50zone 3 days ago
@bullss21 Would that be the same head that prevents your finger from being placed on the the trigger until your are ready to fire? I have been shooting,and teaching for over 20 years including military service and have never seen a "safety" fail. I have however seen people put their finger on the trigger and cause a negligent discharge. Blaming the "safety" is a crutch for improper discipline and training.
HYBRIDCOMBATIVES 2 days ago
@HYBRIDCOMBATIVES I'm not blaming a safety for anything, my revolver does not have one. I'm stating that a person should not fully rely on it. The best safety is proper training, mindset, and will. I used to carry a loaded P38 that had a hard first DA. Went to a wheel gun as a personal preference. Grew up around guns, and was told not to have a round in the chamber until you were ready to fire. But this was when not every gun out there made was drop safe like it is today.
bullss21 2 days ago
I love it that you use logic and mathematics with your arguments. Much respect!
shishiromura 6 days ago
Also you didn't mention, but if you are in a situation like an armed robbery in a store and you are in the back or out of view, racking your gun is a dead give away of your firearm and I'd prefer if nobody could hear me before pulling the trigger.
7l2yan 1 week ago
Carrying a pistol without a round in the chamber is like using a rubber with a hole in it, just plain stupid.
MThrow 1 week ago
Well man I can see your point about the "Slight possible malfunctoins" when racking your slide, but if you've got a gun that isn't very prone to malfunctions this is kind of a moot point. And also, how often are you going to be cowboy quickdrawing in everyday life?
I keep a round out of the chamber because I carry IWB on my front, and dont like having a round pointed at my cock. Plus, I'm not going to be getting in a duel any time soon (I hope). Either way though, its all preference.
Jenult 1 week ago
Thank you for great video!
indiony1 1 week ago
depends on how you're carrying the weapon. If you are carrying it in a holster, chambered round...if you are carrying a small auto in your front pants pocket, then empty chamber makes sense.
Donnybrook10 1 week ago
Never even heard that argument before, and it's very compelling...
Ducky1138 1 week ago
Why are you always wearing a hat inside your home?
pcnightmare52 1 week ago
ive never been into a fight without knowing i was going to get into it theres pushing and verbal going on so theres time to rack a round. i pulled my xd once and the click clack scared the shit out of the kid rying to intimidate me with his hand in his bag on a snicker bar. i just dont see having a round in my chamber in a single action gun nice vieo man
clydethekiller 1 week ago
I agree 100% with always keep a round chambered. Plus it's one more round if needed for multiple shots.
boomer16323 2 weeks ago
@ chapimfeliz not true. I wear size pants 34, no belly and walk around with an H&KUSP45 CT plus my back up Glock 27. I wear normal clothes. It was definitively a disrespectful comment. Internet and cars are good for passive-aggressive types. (I'm not an acquaintance of the Yankee but your comment bothered me, plus I just had my Friday night whiskey).
SOSBELLY 2 weeks ago
Hey I have the same T-shirt. Got mine from JCPenney. Is hard to concealed a gun without a belly like yours, I have no belly myself, how to concealed my HK usp compact ?
chapinfeliz 2 weeks ago
I agree with your premise. I carry a Glock 26 :
gabrielle0869 2 weeks ago
@ ssl668 Get yourself a Glock 26 or 27. Or at least try one out...
SOSBELLY 2 weeks ago
short, expensive club.
randybill 2 weeks ago
Thanks for information. I have a pistol (P-22) and wanted to see what would be the safest way to carry and or use quickly. I am new to fire arms and am planning to take training course. The one i own is only for home protection . A pistol i want to get is the revolver type .Possibly the S&W .22 or a Colt. not sure yet. Or a 5 shot pocket pistol . What would you recomend. I knoe that for it to be safe , a single chamber on a revolver has to be empty and hammer on the chamber (not cocked)
ssl668 2 weeks ago
@ssl668 That is not true. A revolver does not need an empty cylinder to be safe. Modern revolvers use transfer bar safeties.
TheYankeeMarshal 2 weeks ago
@TheYankeeMarshal Would you consider my gun to have an advantage (.357 sig) Glock 31, since a 9mm .355 bullet is pushed into a .40 chamber, more room for the round to find its place to sit in the chamber?
SSSDiaz7 1 week ago
@SSSDiaz7 All bottle neck rounds do have an advantage when it comes to chambering reliably, but not enough of an advantage to make it worth carrying without my gun loaded.
TheYankeeMarshal 1 week ago
Thats actually a really good point you brought up about adding a chance for failure. Nice video.
The3rdID 2 weeks ago
I carry a loaded weapon...
PRMIN30 2 weeks ago
Just for the record I carry both of my weapons "hot" and assume all my weapons are ALWAYS loaded. This comment was just following the discussion/comments trail before me.
SOSBELLY 2 weeks ago
Keep the discussion alive so we can learn more & thanks so much for taking the time to put the video together & follow up on it.
SOSBELLY 2 weeks ago
I enjoy you videos.That's was exactly my point: ALL FIGHTS ARE LAST DITCH EFFORTS.My best friend/family lost the use of one hand during a war and he's permanently injured.He will do EVERYTHING with his good hand only, no other help.Police officers walk up to him on the range cause they cant believe his speed (training & never giving up).This "technique" is wired into my 48 year old brain just as the fact that anything around me will become a weapon when fighting for my life.Great topic.Keep the
SOSBELLY 2 weeks ago
Racking the slide using the rear sights (certain guns such as Glock) is commonly & routinely recommended to military & LEOs.You won't damage the sights & it works.There are "patches" you can attach to the gun in order to make the surface rough enough).If you're wearing a suit...try a harder surface (shoe, belt, steering wheel, or just f*** the suit - your life is on the line).
SOSBELLY 2 weeks ago
@SOSBELLY Please tell me you don't actually believe that is a "recommended" method. It is not. It is sometimes taught as an emergency, last ditch effort method...but not a recommended one. The Israelis only use it because of an archaic and outdated law. They do not prefer it. They are just making the best out of a bad situation.
TheYankeeMarshal 2 weeks ago
In Israel, many of my contacts carry their pistols without a round up, mag in of course. They train to draw and chamber a round then fire, and they are quick. I carried a 45 for years on duty and I really did not like the idea to have the hammer back with a round in the chamber. The weapon is designed to be carried that way and a 45 usually has a grip safety that also prevents. Having a round in the chamber means a round will go when the hammer falls. Many weapons are safe, including the 45.
RHINO6383 3 weeks ago 2
good info and I'm diggin' the shirt! :-)
WhiskeyRiverRifleman 3 weeks ago
I didn't catch it if you said it, but my biggest concern is what if you can only use one hand? while it is possible to rack a slide one handed its is not easy, and can be dangerous.
Anyway if you are in a struggle, and you are able to get your weapon, but you need a second hand to rack the slide, you are in a very bad position, IMO.
But I see why people are hesitant to do it.
l337pwnage 3 weeks ago
I've been an LEO for 25+ yrs. it is MY opinion that carrying with an empty chamber would be a disadvantage in a deadly force scenario, for reasons stated by previous poster. The MOST important thing, regardless of how u chose to carry, is to train/practice which ever method you choose. You will react to a threat the way you practice TO react to a threat. If you practice drawing, racking, then addressing the threat that is what you will do when under stress..... automatically (if practiced e
latinlaw828 3 weeks ago
Good points.
todddguillory 3 weeks ago
Good explanation about the added risk of failure to feed when not carrying w/ one in the pipe. I've always been of the opinion that if you're not ready to carry with a bullet chambered then you're not ready to carry concealed at all. If you're afraid of malfunction before unholstering or you doubt your ability to be safe with it loaded, how can you be confident/competent with it shooting under pressure? Put in the practice hours and rounds and the comfort/confidence/competence will come.
lodidodi666 4 weeks ago
@Yankee i carry a s&w sigma 9mm no safety, wit one n chamber. Im diggin ur povs man........ love the comment thread!!! ...lol
illshootani99a 4 weeks ago
good point, i forgot that guns can have failure's to feed
Umimugo 1 month ago
No round in chamber = Maybe you should just sell all your pistols instead!
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1942nuclear 1 month ago
Okay, there is something that must be considered. The quickest way to clear an assailant's hand off your firearm is to discharge it. Close quarters going from deployment to employment and that takes you're out of the fight in less than a second. I train and train others that when deploying and your assailant is on it, discharge it. They will let go. You may have a feed failure, but you have control of the weapon. That is why one is in the chamber.
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1942nuclear 1 month ago
@1942nuclear The weakest part of your argument, other than it denotes a lack of understanding of guns, is that you keep saying "they say" and "they think." Fact is a gun is completely safe with one in the chamber as long as you handle it properly. If you want to say it is not safe for YOU because YOU have poor gun handling habits that is one thing, but to say it is generally unsafe for people who handle guns properly is false.
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1942nuclear 1 month ago
@1942nuclear If he is afraid of his gun with one in the chamber thaen he is not someone I would take gun advice from...period. It shows a complete lack of both experience and understanding. Anyone can own a gunshop. It does not make them an expert. Especially not with modern firearms. I find a lot of these old guys that hold onto outdated ideas and have no idea how modern firearms work.
TheYankeeMarshal 1 month ago
@1942nuclear I have watched some of his videos before. The only time I ever saw him say to definitely not carry with a round in the chamber is when someone is mexican carrying a gun.
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1942nuclear 1 month ago
@1942nuclear apparently berry from moss pawn doesn't feel comfortable with a round in the chamber and that is understandable. but you have to be borderline retarded to think having to chamber a round is just as fast and is as reliable as having one chambered.
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1942nuclear 1 month ago
@1942nuclear No offense, but this is a pretty lame attempt at an appeal to authority argument. Most any gun safety instructor, gun shop owner, firearms trainer, etc will tell you to carry with one in the chamber. LEO's all carry with one in the chamber and they handle their guns daily. Drawing and racking under duress is a ridiculous idea.
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1942nuclear 1 month ago
@1942nuclear Name a single case where a Glock has just "gone off" in public.
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1942nuclear 1 month ago
@1942nuclear Actually, you do have to prove it because you are wrong. All of your opinions are ones of someone with no true experience with firearms and you try to validate them by placing those opinions on others in positions of supposed authority. This is not a valid debate because one side is just an uninformed opinion and the other is factual. Name one case of a Glock just "going off" in public,
TheYankeeMarshal 1 month ago
I rode motorcycles with several members of law enforcement and I discussed this same issue with them. A 20 year veteran imitated pulling a gun, put his finger in my side and said "you're dead" all in one second. He said to never carry a gun without one in the chamber-he said that pulling your gun and then racking a round in with the slide, only works in the movies and will get you killed in the real world. Good video.
LVen21 1 month ago
@ yankee i agree carry mine loaded never felt unsafe but saw a couple comments figured id ask. Thanks for the response and great vids man
Gunacctivist 1 month ago
Why would you not carry a glock loaded?
Gunacctivist 1 month ago
@Gunacctivist I would carry a Glock loaded. People that wouldn't are usually inexperienced gun owners that are afraid of guns that do not have manual safeties.
TheYankeeMarshal 1 month ago
i am with you brother , to carry a gun not chambered is like being unarmed , the needs to be ready to go you will be under stress ,u dont need to add time purposly you dont need.
glock2026 1 month ago
Wow. There are a lot of gun owners out here that dont carry with a round chambered. I personally know three people that do not. They are not really into guns anyway. But, when the shit hits the fan I will be ready. They will not. I think about that when I am around them. I will be up front facing the threat. They will have to hide and load their guns. And maybe screw it up from the adrenaline rush.I dont see a reason to carry an unloaded gun. Just my opinion. To each is own. Stay safe all.
Flashvette 1 month ago
Well said Yankee Marshall. I have been carrying for 27 years and I always carry with a round chambered. These people carry a gun, dont have enough confidence in themselves or they are scared of the gun. Try feeding the first round on a small 380, or a 9mm. They will misfeed when injecting the first round. Unless you use the slide release. Who's gonna carry a gun with the slide locked back? Its also a distraction and pulls your attention off target. Good video.I hope more gun owners watch this..
Flashvette 1 month ago
Mr. TheYankeeMarshal, what you just said is the most insanely idiotic thing I have ever heard. At no point in you incoherent rambling were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. We are all now dumber for having had listened to it.
coburna5 1 month ago
get that survival band goin. you never know when you may need an extra shoe string ******fad*****
coburna5 1 month ago
also..try racking a slide cleanly and positively when you are under life threatening s stress...fine motor skills go out the window or at the very least deteriorate to a high degree
brotherscoobs 1 month ago
@brotherscoobs racking a slide is not a fine motor skill.
ms3bani 1 month ago
@ms3bani neither is drawing the pistol...however it is more difficult to do smoothly when under life threatening stress....why add to it by needing to add an extra step under stress ?
brotherscoobs 1 month ago
@brotherscoobs same reason people add extra steps by using locking retention holsters with buttons that require pressing them to release the weapon.
or they use guns with external manual safeties, which again require extra steps.
in their self defense planning, they have weighed and accepted the risk in exchange for what they feel they gain. because they are trained for them.
just because YOU don't like it doesn't mean it is inappropriate for someone else.
ms3bani 1 month ago
@ms3bani i never said or implied that it was inappropriate for someone else...it's to each their own.. I do not carry on an empty chamber, my carry pistol has a thumb safety,and my holster uses friction for retention ( crossbreed supertuck )...perhaps i needed to EMPHASIZE all of the reasons I mentioned there are why I do not carry on an empty chamber..pardon me for assuming it was a given that i was refering to the reasons i do NOT do those things and the reason(s) why (eyeroll)
brotherscoobs 1 month ago
I dont see the point in carrying unless you're ready to go.
edbean420 1 month ago 2
@edbean420 agreed
brotherscoobs 1 month ago
Ive been robbed at gun point.I agree with your other video.DO NOT WEAR ON YOUR ANKLE!I had a .38 on my ankle & couldn't get to it.Take it from someone who's been through it.You have NO TIME to pull weapon,rack slide,& fire.You dont know when its coming.The robbers sprint run right at you & overwhelm you.I had 3 secs to react.The guy had his gun to my head & took 4 dollars & ran away.Luckily no one was hurt.I couldn't get to my ankle holster while his gun was on me.I was a rookie and didnt know.
GuitarsandGuns100 1 month ago
With combined Military and LE of 28 yrs anytime I see any posting by someone talking about not having a round in the chamber indicates to me that person has never been in combat or up against real bad guys. If you are going to carry, carry it with a round in the chamber and train on your wpn for petes sake.
DJayX8 1 month ago
All these arguments about having a round in the chamber are simply silly. Step one,don't carry a Glock, or striker fired automatic. Any double action,be it a revolver or automatic,is plenty safe,because the first cocking trigger pulls are Heavy, not like a Glock type gun.Any one that believes a double action is anything like Glock trigger, well,knows nothing about guns.So chamber your round in your double action gun. DAO is okay, but D/A S/A is way better, no need to put your safety on,its safe
surfside006 1 month ago
@surfside006 Why would you recommend NOT carrying a striker fired weapon? I carry a G19 chambered and wouldn't think of anything else. The first time you pull the trigger the weapon performs exactly the same as every other time you pull the trigger.
I agree about keeping it chambered but my Glock has a much better feel when I carry over my Taurus.
Just curious...
Klips17 1 month ago in playlist Liked videos
@Klips17 If you feel comfortable carrying a chambered Glock? Have at it. I have a G-19,G-23,G-26 all have Crimson Trace Laser Grips, and plenty of holsters of all kinds.
I have never carried any Glock Chambered. All my other 10 guns are DAO,D/A S/A and two revolvers. All others sub compact. 9 light weight. I would never carry a cocked gun.
On D/A your trigger finger cocks the weapon.Obviously Glock has a big following, I am not a Glock,or Striker fired fan. I l prefer D/A S/A guns
surfside006 1 month ago
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slinger777 1 month ago
Carrying with an empty chamber in a semi-auto assumes that you will only be "attacked" by a man with a pointy stick standing off ten feet or so.
What do you do when one hand has a death grip on the bad guy's wrist (wielding a knife or gun) and your other hand manages to draw your firearm? Click! Now chamber a round with your telekinetic powers? Maybe poke him in the ribs and make him giggle?
Boromonkey 1 month ago
@Boromonkey
If you've got the gun in your hand, and you're THAT close, you could just whack him one across the head with it THEN rack the slide
Gendo3s2k 1 month ago
One in the pipe.
petaunot 1 month ago
Rounds usually don't cycle in Semi-auto because of bad loads....I have never had a jam from racking. I carry a Glock so no safety except my finger on the trigger or no round in the chamber
gojoe36 1 month ago
I don't really understand why you guys focus so much on speed. Most muggers don't carry guns, and if they do, they already have it in their hand so they have you beat anyway.
I've been delivering pizza for years, and one thing I've learned, is to ALWAYS be aware of your surroundings. No one is just going to sneak up behind me or pop up from behind a bush and get me
I pocket carry with an empty chamber & I'm pretty quick, but what you said about FTF I think I'll keep it chambered
Gendo3s2k 1 month ago
yeah add a zero rofl
wallace72001 1 month ago
Good on you for spittin' the truth!
133j0hn 1 month ago
HOLY SHIT HE WAS CARRYING THE WHOLE TIME
conrad0102 1 month ago
BTW, whoever said you cannot rack the slide with one hand... get some real training. It is not that hard if you learn how...
Klips17 1 month ago
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King Ding Dong? Really?
Good video... but I would not carry a revolver. Have you ever run a tactical match with a revolver? It is REAL tough. Train, train, train... but with a pistol. When you carry, the bullet belongs in the chamber. If you have to rack the slide, that can give you away.
Anyone who wants gun control, I say keep you finger OFF the trigger until ready to shoot. That's control! That will also keep you from "blowing a whole in your butt in haste".
Keep up the vids.
Klips17 1 month ago
Carrying with your chamber empty also ties up two hands. In the event you have to defend yourself at close range you might not have a second hand to use.
ENG9RES 1 month ago
continued: so heres what i do. i used to carry with one in the chamber on safe. luckely my primary cary weapon has a nice smooth easy to switch ambidextrous safety. yes it is another action but less that chambering a around. you can also do this one handed, left or right if needed. with the holster i use now i carry chambered with out the saftey on as i have more experience and becasue of the type of holster. i use different procedures for different guns and holsters.
thechoppshop 1 month ago
dont forget to mention that wehn in a situation where your are in fear of your life. how nervous you would be and mistakes can be made in that time. now add in that you are making the decision to take potentially take someones life. theres a lot that would be running through someones mind at the time of needting to draw a weapon. with saying that i feel the less actions needed to complete would be best. but also of the flip side you may fire the weapon on accident becasue of the same reasons.
thechoppshop 1 month ago
For me, carrying with one in the pipe depends of what type of firearm it is.
For example, there is no way in hell I would carry a stock glock with one in the chamber. However, a glock with a manual safety would be a different story.
tradernorton05 1 month ago
@tradernorton05 I have one of those, it's called a Smith and Wesson M&P :) (better sights and grips as well.)
DigitalHaze65536 3 days ago
Can you rack a slide one handed?
No?
Thee end.
kevo1264 1 month ago
@kevo1264 racking slide with one hand, using holster. you can also us back of your shoes, a table or even a belt. training videos will give you more examples of how to do this if u decide to get one. most military & police carry semi auto handguns so racking side with one hand is an important to learn
kcd1001 1 month ago
@kcd1001
There are plenty of ways to rack one handed. But this was more in reference to a split second self defense situation. While all of these are plausible methods, just carry condition 0-1. Was all I was trying to say, because you never know what situation you could be in.
kevo1264 1 month ago
Condition 1 ALWAYS, no exception. Always.
lvpv 1 month ago
you should be on that show rocket city red necks...
TheNopedawg 1 month ago
@TheNopedawg That show bothers me sooo much. I used to live in Huntsville, AL and I worked for both the Space & Rocket Center and Marshall Space Flight during my time there. Nobody there talks like that. They "hick" it up so bad for the cameras.
TheYankeeMarshal 1 month ago 3
@TheYankeeMarshal no way, I was just kidding around. Besides your way smarter than those guys anyway...
TheNopedawg 1 month ago
I have a Rugger LCR and I keep the chamber empty. I don't have a slide to rack thank heavens and the action is very smooth and not to hard. I would agree with you with a bigger or harder action gun like a glock.
felicianomiko 1 month ago
@felicianomiko I have to ask. Why in the world would you carry a modern revolver with the hammer on an empty chamber? You could beat the gun with a hammer and the round in front of the firing pin would not fire. Modern revolvers cannot fire without the trigger pulled fully to the rear due to the transfer bar. If you somehow accidently pulled the trigger the cylinder is going to advance to the next round and fire.
TheYankeeMarshal 1 month ago 10
@TheYankeeMarshal I know about the advance to the next round. That's the chamber that is empty, not the one that actually lines up with the cylinder. What I mean by 'empty chamber' is, if the trigger is pulled it won't fire a bullet the first time. That's just a safety precaution because if I ever have to draw under fire, which I have never done, I don't want to blow a whole in my butt in my haste. Or any of a hundred other things that could go wrong.
felicianomiko 1 month ago
@felicianomiko So if you are even in dire need of your gun and only have time to fire one shot you are screwed.
TheYankeeMarshal 1 month ago 11
@TheYankeeMarshal We do the best we can with what we've got and hope it's enough. Hindsight is 20/20. I have a gun, know how to use it and carry it. I'm already way ahead of the game. If my life is forfeit over a 10th of a second, then it was meant to be. I'm fine with that.
felicianomiko 1 month ago
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Holden1296 1 month ago
@felicianomiko I mean this in the nicest way possible but your logic is seriously flawed. Think about it. There are only tenths of seconds to be utilized in a deadly force encounter. Adding an extra step seems kind of silly to me. Please don't get in a gun fight because although it will be difficult to shoot yourself, the bad guy will most definitely have shot you. Modern day handguns are designed to carry fully loaded. It is up to you to train to ensure that you don't hurt someone.
Holden1296 1 month ago
@felicianomiko
Your first shot is suppose to be the most important shot you will ever do when you defend yourself with gun.You may not be able to fire the 2nd time. Your negligence fire which you anticipated is not by reason of your gun having a load in the chamber but by unsafe gun handling. keep practicing to keep your finger out of the trigger and also out of the trigger guard and you will not negligently fire on your butt.
deodato1127 1 month ago
@deodato1127 I appreciate your opinion as just that an opinion. I have an opinion too which I shared. I am insulted by your conclusion that I have unsafe gun handling habits. I assure you that I do not. My finger is NEVER on the trigger unless I am aiming at a target downrange thank you very much. I feel safer carrying the gun the way I do. Deal with it. You guys carry with the chamber loaded. Fine. I don't. suck it up.
felicianomiko 1 month ago
you look and sound so much like tom hanks!!!!! love your vids!
madamadam158 1 month ago
lets put it this way, a police officer carrys a gun open carry 90 precent of the time. and they still have a round in the chamber because of time and adding a step to shooting could cost a life
jimmey303 1 month ago
Great video's very informative. Keep them up!
jkirbster 1 month ago
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GeorgiaShooter 1 month ago
good video man, as anew gun owner this gives me great insight on some thing like this, now to get my CHL!
emkplayboy6 1 month ago
Very good points articulated in this video! I don't know if its been brought up (not wanting to read through7 pages of comments, haha) but there's also the possibility that you may not have the use of your weak hand in a fight either. Also, I'm sure alot of y'all have seen that video of the jewelry store owner who gets shot up after he has to take an extra split second to chamber a round. He most likely would have died anyway but who knows what would have happened if he had a round chambered
travisborrego 1 month ago
I recently came across your videos and I truly like those that I’ve seen. I’ve been considering CC and have done a lot a research, note just research, on the topic. I have some questions for you. 1. Is the revolver you have on your side your CC firearm? 2. If so is the hammer on an empty chamber? 3. If not. Why?
Thanks for your vids. I’m sure I’ll enjoy the others.
PS: I’m a T-Shirt man myself!
moderncaveman100 1 month ago
@moderncaveman100 It is one of my CCW choices. No, the hammer is on a live round. Modern revolvers have transfer bar safeties. The gun cannot fire without pulling the trigger.
TheYankeeMarshal 1 month ago
I carry XD40 SC with empty chamber. I can't justify the liablity of a live striker-fired chamber, with a 1911 I might consider with hammer down (conditon 3?).... but glocks and xd;s, full mag, empty hole.
67mustangreg 1 month ago
@67mustangreg I used to think that way too when I first started carrying. I'm not trying to say you're inexperienced, I've never met you, but let me say this, carrying without one in the chamber invites you to be a little more careless with your gun... which is a very bad idea. Just keep your finger and other objects out of the trigger guard and you'll be fine.
cobhc1986 1 month ago
@cobhc1986 .. age 21, new to carrying. my XD has the sweet loaded chamber indicator, but finger off the trigger is always the right way.
67mustangreg 1 month ago
I stand corrected about my last statement of cocked as intent to use, for it simply seems not to matter... a pistol is a deadly weapon, cocked or not! "But the mere fact that the pistol was not cocked does not deprive the act of essential feature of present ability to do harm with the weapon, for no appreciable length of time is required to cock a pistol, and therefore the ability to inflict a bodily injury is immediately present." HUIE v. STATE (Arkansas)
alfredbesterp12 1 month ago
one in the chamber all the time.
The1911Channel 1 month ago
Where in the world do you get those dorky shirts? Great video by the way........now that I hear that arguement, I will now carry with 1 in the pipe. I never actually thought of that might happen, my original school of thought was to carry with no rounds in the chamber. Then again, I only got my CHL a year ago. I am forbidden from carrying even with a license where I work, (Statutory law) so I only carry when I out with my family or by myself on my days off. Thanks for sharing!!!
Mr1MOA 1 month ago in playlist Favorite videos
I have woundered about the chambered or not debockle. Personaly I carry a chambered load however several folks think it's dangerous. Firearm technology has greatly improved since the days of the Saturday night special.
lucky13driver 1 month ago
Wait! I'm still working on "Condition Butterscotch"! And now this?
ElDub50 1 month ago
@kewlneasy88 ok rambo, use your military record to make your point. Make sure not to eat the crayons when your done playing.
BigDirtyBasterd 1 month ago
@kewlneasy88 It is amazing isn't it? I wonder if these clowns argued with their teachers and professors as well.
HYBRIDCOMBATIVES 1 month ago
@kewlneasy88 You are the type of person that gives the rest of us law abiding people a bad name. Just because you have a gun does not mean your Rambo! It is people like you who should not be allowed to own any type of weapon, and nothing sharper then a crayon! Your FIRST reaction should NEVER be to shot someone with a gun.
BigDirtyBasterd 1 month ago
revolver guys like me are laughing our asses off. always loaded. all the time. BUT if you carry chamber empty you MUST PRACTICE PRACTICE PRACTICE PRACTICE getting that weapon into battery and usable. It's your choice and i'm glad you choose to carry, with bit of luck non of us will ever need them.
2ndadmendmutt 1 month ago
@2ndadmendmutt I am a revolver guy as well so enjoy their ridiculous condition 3 bullshit as well.
HYBRIDCOMBATIVES 1 month ago
does having a round in the chamber decrease the chance of failure? yes. Does it also increase the chance of an accident? yes. The way I see it I'm more protected with a firearm that does not have a round in the chamber than I am with no firearm at all, which is the status of most people most of the time. I would rather decrease the chance of accident and make myself a little less protected by not keeping it chambered.
scottmuck 1 month ago
@scottmuck The way I see it is no matter how you carry be consistent. Myself I carry one in the pipe with a Glock 27, S&W 642, M&P9c and a LCP depending on the weather and the clothes I'm wearing. The constant between the four is if I'm forced to use one in self defense all I have to do is draw the gun, it'll be ready to go at that point because they're all carried hot and in a good holster. The only way any of these guns will go off is if I pull the trigger.
grizz474 1 month ago
It is a Fish and Game Violation in my state to carry any weapon with a round chambered. Exemption for Duty Carry. The argument about quickness, failure, etc... are all null! You should be aware of your surroundings at all times and know how to react to an attacker with or with out a weapon. That weapon is just one more layer of protection, knowing how to cope and then deal with an attack comes first, shooting back comes second. Its always better to try an escape, then take someones life.
BigDirtyBasterd 1 month ago
@BigDirtyBasterd What state is that?
TheYankeeMarshal 1 month ago
@TheYankeeMarshal Nevada, witch i find odd. we are also the #1 state for CCW's.
BigDirtyBasterd 1 month ago
@BigDirtyBasterd I do believe that law only applies to hunting weapons on public hunting grounds.
TheYankeeMarshal 1 month ago