It's telling how far off the track movies have come since then. Both men (somewhat justifiably) grant that the special effects were great. And at the time, I'm sure such things like the stained-glass knight could be unapologetically thought of as positives. Now? I feel, like possibly everyone else, special effects are something to roll your eyes over. Oh, it's got a scene with cool effects? Who cares? These days it more than likely means the movie has no atmosphere, warmth, or characters.
Big recommendation, watch Young Sherlock Holmes and Sherlock Holmes (2009) back to back, its interesting to see two different radically but great changes to the great duo and its interesting to see Nicholas Rowe's young Holmes is SO assured and collected while Downey Jr. 's Holmes feels like the after effect of the events of Young Sherlock Holmes, its obvious when Holmes is by himself he is a mess and that is why he needs Watson. Very interesting.
Siskel was way off on this one (I rarely agreed with him anyway)...this was a WONDERFUL film, brilliant writing, FX and score...vastly underrated, I highly recommend it...
@cecinid You're right. This is one of the great fantasy films of the 80s. The score is fantastic, too and forms a great deal of its allure. in 2005, Bruce Broughton won his tenth Emmy, honoring him as an original composer. He won 8 of them all in one sitting in 2003. This film illustrates why his awards were so well deserved.
@cecinid My problem with this movie was the nightmare hallucinations. To me those scenes felt more like they belonged in a horror movie rather than a Sherlock Holmes movie.
According to David Koenig's "Mouse Under Glass", the financial failure of this film was the reason Basil of Baker Street got renamed The Great Mouse Detective.
Also, if I remember correctly, an early Pixar Animation Studios worked on that stained glass window sequence.
@KtheMasterG Yeah, it is strange. But the Goonies was based on a story by Spielberg, while Young Sherlock Holmes was a distillation of numerous different books which were then deconstructed and made into this film.ITs not an awful film, but sadly, its lacking.
Still,the stained glass knight was really cool, and broke new ground.
In Ebert's written review, he says that the stained class window "attacks Holmes". Funny, I thought that the stained class window attacked a priest instead.
I'm from the England, and I was sure it was a straight PG. I checked on IMDB and regarding the USA you're right, it's a PG13, but for the UK it just says PG. So I guess we're both right...
I can understand difference in the two areas. In America the MPAA added a new rating system a year earlier when two other Spielberg products Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom and Gremlins were considered too intense for children. The change was so rapid that England wasn't aware at the time.
as usualy siskel missed this flick. they should remake it with daniel radcliff from harry potter.
libertysunbeam2 4 months ago
I don't think the FX overwhelmed the movie
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They weren't poison darts they were heroin tipped darts.
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It's telling how far off the track movies have come since then. Both men (somewhat justifiably) grant that the special effects were great. And at the time, I'm sure such things like the stained-glass knight could be unapologetically thought of as positives. Now? I feel, like possibly everyone else, special effects are something to roll your eyes over. Oh, it's got a scene with cool effects? Who cares? These days it more than likely means the movie has no atmosphere, warmth, or characters.
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Hey, did Siskel forget "The Case of the Speckled Band"? In that one, a man used a poisonous snake to kill! Is that bizarre or what?
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alexanderneilet 2 years ago
Siskel was way off on this one (I rarely agreed with him anyway)...this was a WONDERFUL film, brilliant writing, FX and score...vastly underrated, I highly recommend it...
cecinid 2 years ago 10
@cecinid You're right. This is one of the great fantasy films of the 80s. The score is fantastic, too and forms a great deal of its allure. in 2005, Bruce Broughton won his tenth Emmy, honoring him as an original composer. He won 8 of them all in one sitting in 2003. This film illustrates why his awards were so well deserved.
QueenBoadicea 1 year ago
@cecinid I agree---
mrbrianmccarthy 10 months ago
@cecinid My problem with this movie was the nightmare hallucinations. To me those scenes felt more like they belonged in a horror movie rather than a Sherlock Holmes movie.
petercharleskrug 8 months ago
@petercharleskrug they were suppose to be, moriarity was a villan and drugging them, he wasnt suppose to give nice wonderfull hallucinations lol.
libertysunbeam2 4 months ago
I'm the reasonable one on this show, you never grant anything, lol
dmiize 2 years ago
According to David Koenig's "Mouse Under Glass", the financial failure of this film was the reason Basil of Baker Street got renamed The Great Mouse Detective.
Also, if I remember correctly, an early Pixar Animation Studios worked on that stained glass window sequence.
animagusurreal 2 years ago
@animagusurreal
Yes, the Knight scene was done by Pixar. It took quite some time to do so.
The film is alright, it could have been better. I just think it was vastly overshadowed by the Goonies movie of the same time.
yellowcougar18 2 years ago
@yellowcougar18
funny...both were written by the same guy..Chris columbus
KtheMasterG 1 year ago
@KtheMasterG Yeah, it is strange. But the Goonies was based on a story by Spielberg, while Young Sherlock Holmes was a distillation of numerous different books which were then deconstructed and made into this film.ITs not an awful film, but sadly, its lacking.
Still,the stained glass knight was really cool, and broke new ground.
yellowcougar18 1 year ago
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KtheMasterG 1 year ago
In Ebert's written review, he says that the stained class window "attacks Holmes". Funny, I thought that the stained class window attacked a priest instead.
adamzanzie 2 years ago
Gene Siskel was the best!
KellyGreen5555 2 years ago
thx for post
AnthonyPhilipTorres 2 years ago
Went to see it as a kid and for a PG it was kind of dark and scary...well that's how I remember it.
nookie077 2 years ago 5
Actually it was PG13.The Rating System added it a year earlier
acholl980 2 years ago
I'm from the England, and I was sure it was a straight PG. I checked on IMDB and regarding the USA you're right, it's a PG13, but for the UK it just says PG. So I guess we're both right...
nookie077 2 years ago
I can understand difference in the two areas. In America the MPAA added a new rating system a year earlier when two other Spielberg products Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom and Gremlins were considered too intense for children. The change was so rapid that England wasn't aware at the time.
acholl980 2 years ago
I'm with the late Gene Siskel on this. I loved the first half but when it went all Indiana Jones it lost me.
I did like the ILM hallucinations though.
pinz2022 2 years ago