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  • Ann Druyan is so intelligent. What a perfect match for Sagan.

  • I had the biggest crush on him in the 80's.

  • Carl Sagan makes me feel like a fucking moron for reading political science at university.

  • Nice, but men and women have a tendency to abuse each other, the statistics are about equal.

  • "Intelligent life on Earth is still an open question." Nailed it.

  • Imagine his reaction if he knew the defence budgets now.

  • the woman is cute

  • @manwithouthat44 That's his wife :)

  • you wouldnt have xbox without science. youre wrong if you said that GOD gave us xbox.

  • gr8 man

  • "In fact, intelligent life on Earth is an open question"

    hahaha...i love this guy

  • I had a chance to talk with Ms Druyan in 2006 at the first Beyond Belief conference in La Jolla, California. She is an absolutely delightful person, very friendly and open and possessed of a scintillating intelligence. She is still involved in progressive projects despite the tragic loss of her husband, and I could easily see how Carl fell for her.

    That conference was incredible, with the likes of Dawkins, Weinberg, Harris, Krauss, Tyson, Davies, Porco, and on and on!

  • Annie looks kinda like Sheena Easton.. they're both beautiful. annie a little more... because she's so intelligent

  • Carl Sagan is the Mr. Rogers of spokespersons for science. Impossible not to like.

    If there was one person in history I'd want to share a joint with, it would be him by a mile

  • democracy? democracy and science together????!!!!! please does anybody knows what democracy in athens did to it's own people?. science cares about what's real not political systems that man created geez. democracy will never be scientific.

    democracy is a popular term nowdays that everybody love to say but nobody knows the true meaning of democracy.

    plus their is no such things as intelligent lifeforms from outerspace. aliens are fairytales

  • carl sagan really does make science sound like beautiful poetry :)

  • @tfwarlord Because it is. :3

  • Nobody dislikes Carl Sagan YAAAH!!!

  • I don't have any background on the interviewer, but at 7:03, to see his flabbergasted reaction to the assertion that Earth was 4.5 BILLION years old, makes me happy to think that Carl had just inculcated yet another human the sense of wonder at the ancient expansiveness of the cosmos.

  • Love ya Carl.

  • We have the space program to thank for nearly every piece of modern technology we have.

  • @MrMZaccone False.

  • @CambridgeHeights True. We can play this game all fucking week. Care to throw an actual argument out there?

  • @MrMZaccone Why should we thank the space program for the development of vancomycin?

  • @CambridgeHeights I said MODERN. Vancomycin was first synthesized in 1953. Try again.

  • @MrMZaccone Ceftobiprole

  • @CambridgeHeights Ceftobiprole is a type of cephalosporin. Cephalosporin was developed in 1948. HOWEVER, given that you tried harder this time ... New antibiotics (including ceftobiprole) are developed using procedures like gene sequencing and virtual imaging of chemical interaction etc. that would not be possible without the advent of modern computer technology that relies on that developed by the space program. Nice try, but ... fail. It doesn't matter where you go, the effect is there.

  • @MrMZaccone Nope. Computers were invented before the space program, and the most modern computer systems were developed independent of the space program

  • @CambridgeHeights The miniaturization of computers and the speed and computing power to perform said tasks however are a direct result of efforts directed toward the space program as are elements of the software needed for virtual imaging. I'm sure you can find something that's clear of space program influence but it's not easy.

  • @MrMZaccone The miniaturization and increasing speed of computers was a goal computer manufacturers since well before the space program and continued independent of the space program.

  • @CambridgeHeights Goal, yes. Achievable goal?  No. The methodologies were made possible by innovations from the space program. You haven't addressed the other half of my post.

  • @MrMZaccone I can assure you that you are quite wrong about that. It has been a goal, and consistently acheived since Gordon Moore gave birth to Moore's law in his 1965 paper. He talked about it from the invention of the integrated circuit in 58 until 65 (but has held true ever since (kinda) ). I've read the paper, at no point does he mention the space program. I've written papers of my own on the subject. The space program benefited from transistor technology.. not vice versa.

  • @jacksawild What does Moore's self fulfilling prophecy have to do with the forces that drove it's fulfillment?

  • @MrMZaccone If you bothered to read the very short paper, you might understand the "forces that (sic) drove it's fulfillment". I could tell you that the computers used in Apollo were at least a generation and a half behind the most up to date and that the computing power to weight ratio taken, were only as much as were required. I get the feeling that you would rather hear that which proves you right than that which doesn't. Please yourself.

  • @jacksawild I'VE FUCKING READ IT FOR CHRISSAKE! Stop making assumption. What does the fact that the computes in Apollo were out of date my the time they got it off the ground have to do with ANYTHING?

  • @MrMZaccone Furthermore, it wasn't viewed as a "prophecy" until after the fact. It was an historical analysis of development up to the point of publication and an outline of the problems to be overcome.

  • @jacksawild NO IT WASN'T! ARE YOU HIGH? Fully the first THIRD of the article even READS like a fucking prophecy! I'm becoming convinced that YOU'RE the one who hasn't fucking read it.

  • @MrMZaccone The first third is the introduction, which as you should know is a summary of the paper. It speaks in general terms of the conclusions drawn from the study taking into account the problems likely to be encountered. You could call it a prophecy, but that would be pretty stupid. It is published in the journal "PROCEEDINGS OF THE IEEE," which outlines the standards at time of writing. I'm guessing you have an arts degree or a high school diploma, if that. Stop wasting my time.

  • @jacksawild It is now blatantly obvious that YOU haven't read it. I'm guessing you're an over-educated snob without a life.

  • @MrMZaccone Look it up for yourself. It's called "Cramming more components

    onto integrated circuits" By Gordon E. Moore. It is widely available.

  • the sound only goes for the left side?...I don't hear from the right side!!!

  • haha Sagan was so optimistic really. No manned mission to Mars in the next 10 or 15 years. HAHAHAHAHHA How about not in the next 200 years?  For really, what is there on Mars that we cannot see now with the telescopes? Nothing. It would be merely a climbing of the mountain to see if we could. We already know what's there. Getting there and back would just be an exercise in getting there and back which would be great if we had our planet fixed first.

  • @TruthSurge NASA is planning manned missions to mars within the next 10 years. One of the main things we are looking to find is a more in depth study of Mars' past, such as water, possible life, what led to the decline of it's atmosphere, which could help us understand our planet better.

  • @Hobble What a colossal waste. There is no need to send people physically there when we can detect every last dirt clod with telescopes. It's pride. Look ma! I'm the first person to Mars. WEEEEEEEE. What a waste.  What can the possibly hope to discover that is not already known via telescopes, radiometry, and unmanned probes? No person would run their budget this way with a known .1 % ROI.

  • @TruthSurge I'm not sure what you've been reading, but no, we can't detect every dirt clod with telescopes. Especially since when searching for signs of microbial life you need microscopes. There's most likely big business with curiosity of the possibilities of mining on Mars as well. But overall there is quite a bit we don't know about Mars that manned missions are needed to clear up. Please do some research before ranting.

  • @Hobble Ok. I can see you are set in your belief so much that you even deny how close our images of Mars actually are. Good day.

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  • @Hobble I never claimed that, arse hat.  If you think it's worth impoverishing the masses just to say we got someone to Mars, what have you been reading?

  • @TruthSurge I don't think it is worth that. But the cost of going to Mars is a lot less than what we spend on much more pointless things. This is something that will help advance us. I think we should cut spending on weapons technology, tax cuts to the rich, bail outs to big banks that are robbing us blind, a ten year occupation of two countries, paying reality show celebrities ridiculous amounts of money.

  • @Hobble "But the cost of going to Mars is a lot less than what we spend on much more pointless things."

    That's a logical fallacy of argumentation. JOHN is doing it so why can't I?

    Pt is, it's stupid. We have TONS of frontiers we NEED to address here on this rock (disease for one?) and the KNOWN ROI for curing some disease that kills children would seem to make wasting $ on pure speculation a very irresponsible thing to do. Again, it's pure pride. Can't let the ruskies win!

  • @Hobble Sure, I agree with all of your $ cuts because they only help the rich who are already way too far above everyone else but worse they tend to push people down INTO a poverty lifestyle as they cannot compete any longer.

    None of that addresses the almost sure 0 ROI of sending someone to Mars. It's rock. We know 99.9999% of what we can know. We know what the sun is made of. But we never sent anyone there. Gee. How did they figure it out? It's pride dude. Not worth it right now.

  • @Hobble Why would you go out and by a new car if you are already in debt that you must pay off when you have a car already but you also have a child you are trying to raise and now you blew the little $ you had on a new downpayment for something you didn't need? It's called being irresponsible. Get your shit together first then go off exploring. Or, get a billionaire to donate all their $ and see how fast he cheers the cause. :)

  • @TruthSurge To elaborate. This is more than just getting to Mars so we can say we did. Just the advancements we've made to prepare for the travel are very good. Such as the new space suits required, they have led to breakthroughs in technology that allow stroke victims to walk and move normally again.

    Sorry if I misunderstood you about the telescopes. When you said "you even deny how close our images of Mars actually are" I took it as implied that you were referring to telescope images.

  • @Hobble "we've made to prepare for the travel are very good. "

    another logical fallacy. These "advancements" are still not applicable to the here and now on earth. Saying all the billions blown on preparing have allowed us to understand better how to prepare to get there is just not very impressive to me. What happened to the Jonas Saulk days? You see a problem (polio) you solve it and don't patent the cure and make trillions. This world is not going to make it, you know that?

  • @TruthSurge Did you actually read my entire post? The rest of what you quoted (out of context) was exactly an example of how it has helped the "here and now on earth"

  • @Hobble No, I don't think I saw that. But I think it's a poor decision. You don't, then we disagree.

  • I think every male scientist would dream of a wife like Ann Druyan

  • Wow, Ann wasn't ugly!

    Oh you, Carl. You player, you! *softly hits his shoulder twice*

  • Carl and Ann were perfect for each other.

  • Ann is so HOT! Carl was so lucky.

  • This interviewer is all about money. He's sort of an idiot, it's funny to watch the combination of him + Carl Sagan in a conversation

  • I really like the way they got married. The were friends for years, but had never dated. She left a message at his hotel that she found the song she was looking for to put on the Voyager record. She asked him in the call if he wanted to meet for coffee. Sagan said "for keeps?" By the end of the call, they were engaged.

  • What an exemplary person! He has inspired me to pursue a career in the sciences.

  • "Intelligent life on Earth is a question."

    Intelligent life is still a question today if people think the moon landings were a hoax, and if there are people wanting to live back in the Bronze Age.

  • Man, Carl had the life. Brilliant, poetic guy who pursues his life passion as a career and marries a brilliant, poetic woman.

  • @tehorix789 Oh crap, I forgot to mention BEAUTIFUL.

  • This guy calls the Hubble telescope a failed scientific mission.

    Oh how that turned around in a hurry.

  • Ann Druyan is an incredible woman. Intelligent, and beautiful. I can see why Carl was so in love with her. Besides I love her voice XD

  • @1Volans ...and he's still more intelligent then both of us combined.

  • intelligent life on earth is open question, i think bush being elected twice proved that lol

  • @44eelz I think that only relates to American intelligence, however oxymoronic that sounds.

  • @jacksawild ... true dat

  • i think we can agree that sagan literally nails every question humbly and with elegance

  • good attempt at a troll, thing is no one could ever dislike him, apart from terrorists, you're not a terrorist are you? because america is great

  • That interviewer seemed to be a complete prick in my opinion.

  • I wish these two where my parents.

  • I read "Shadows Of Forgotten Ancestors". I really liked it. First you must read "Origin Of Species" by Charles Darwin. The very second book should be shadows because Sagan gives you the lab evidence proving beyond all doubt that Charles Darwin was right. Life evolved on earth. Sagan is my favorite scientist with Einstein of course. I mostly agree with Sagan on many issues of science and politics. I think the only place we have a disagreement is the value of National Security.

  • 1Volans is proof that some people wear their stupidity like a badge of honor. Seriously though, Carl Sagan was one of the greatest minds in history. Funny how crazed right wing shatter brains are so similar to the fundamentalist Muslims they so badly want to exterminate...two peas in a pod.

  • naaa

  • Carl Sagan was DA MAN!!

    Marrying a brilliant and beautiful woman 15 years younger than him.

    Fame matters, of course.

  • Hubble a failure? Hm. Not anymore.

  • The world sincerely needs more people like Carl Sagan.

  • At 8:20, Ann said "Why men have a tendency to abuse women"..

    Wha?????

    In 2009, it is exactly the reverse. Women abuse men with impunity.

  • haha that is arguably true

  • @lingojac It seems as if Carl's very subconsciousness believed that same thing, hence him being massively publicized to project the perspective that he believed the entire world needed. He may of been the one extra voice that was needed to help this human civilization push on it's way to better symmetry with our Origins. He believed in the power of perspective.

  • @lingojac I'll never be as smart but I'll try to be as honest ;-)

  • Sagan. Word.

  • What's up with the audio? I can't hear this. Where did this originally come from?

  • love Carl's voice!

  • Fuck all of you people. I'll be over here.

  • My favourite Carl Sagan quote. con't

    The behavior of other animals renders such pretensions specious.They are just too much like us".

    Dr. Carl Sagan & Dr. Ann Druyan

    SHADOWS OF FORGOTTEN ANCESTORS, 1992

  • My favourite Carl Sagan quote.

    "Humans--who enslave, castrate, experiment on, and fillet other animals--have had an understandable penchant for pretending animals do not feel pain. A sharp distinction between humans and "animals" is essential if we are to bend them to our will, make them work for us, wear them, eat them--without any disquieting tinges of guilt or regret. It is unseemly of us, who often behave so unfeeling toward other animals, to contend that only humans can suffer.

  • Every single thing Sagan says here is as topical and important now as it was then, even now over 15 years after this interview was taken. The federal budget, the DoD, science, the path of NASA, "collaboratively" going to Mars, and "In fact, intelligent life on earth is an open question!" Brilliant!

  • They thought that the hubble telescope was a failure. That made me laugh.

  • the Hubble WAS a failure.....until they fixed it.

  • EXCELLENT.

    CARL SAGAN is an inspiration.

  • Carl Sagan changed my life.

    His books had enormous impact on me. For some reason, they lead me to change my previous ideas of a career and start training to become a teacher.

    My students will hear a lot about him :)))))

  • @miguelcarvalho2008 My students did. I taught Earth & Space Science, and I utilized his explanations from the Cosmos series (Drake Equation, Eratosthenes) and showed his Pale Blue Dot quote at the beginning of the year and then again at the end of the year.

  • @miguelcarvalho2008

    I hope not, because Carl Sagan is a science crackpot of the highest order, next to Stephen Hawking's "the universe exists because of nothing".

    To feed the children his bullshit is a crime.

  • @logicCplusplus No, to "feed the children" the beliefs that snakes talk and virgins give birth is a crime. Carl Sagan's ideas are based on nothing other than experiment and observation. How can you call that bullshit?

  • @thenebbishroute

    Where are those Aliens of his? Oh, I guess its ok that you can't "experiment and observe" that. Hopefully SETI will have something soon, but unlike you and Carl Sagan, I'm not holding my breath.

    As long as you don't believe in God, its science when it is and also when it isn't LOL!

    BTW, you can dismiss the Virgin Birth for all I care, but reproducing parthenogenetically is a reality.

  • @miguelcarvalho2008 That's awesome. For the sake of humanity, I hope you fulfill your dream. I truly think that teaching children HOW to think (scientific method) is the best way to overcome the worst of our Achilles Heel (human superstition). Cheers!

  • @miguelcarvalho2008

    Me too. Not as a teacher but as an agnostic.I love Carl Sagan!

    R.I.P.

  • This brilliant man, with Ann, tried his very best to bring science to a reluctant public and government. How tragic he never really succeeded in his lifetime, despite his tremondous accomplishments. Science, to this day receives too little respect and funding. Many people still think much of the money spent on NASA is a waste, totally unaware of the numerous, myriad benefits derived from the space program.

  • OH - I think he succeeded greatly!!! You cannot expect it to turn around in a few years - but in the long run - he exceeded greatly!!!

  • I disagree. Yes, he succeeded greatly with those of us interested in Science and the exploration of the cosmos; those of us who understand, as he did, that Mankind can not stay in the cradle forever. But the public and government still doesn't get it. 40 yrs after Apollo 11, we are still confined to low Earth Orbit.....despite the efforts of great minds like Carl and Ann.  If still alive, I'm sure he'd be as frustrated as I am. FORTY YEARS!!!!!

  • Well - honestly - yes and no!! Yes Sagan/Druyan lit a fire - and soon those will be hitting the ranks of the employed decision makers. As far as government - you know as well as I do - it is all linked to the economy - good economy = they don't care what you do - bad economy = they care - cause you ain't doing much!

    And he owes me a Sharpie!! I was making a computer system for GTE in a bookstore when he came for a signing - and he forgot a pen - I gave him a Sharpie - and he left with it!;-)

  • Having said all that, I'm encouraged by what I perceive as a much greater interest in exploration of Outer Space these days. The EU, China, Japan, Russia, India and the US, All seem to have a new determination to go to the Moon, Mars or both. Young people around the world seem to me to be eager to get on with it. It's the "stall" we've been in for forty years that I think would have frustrated Carl.  Perhaps the "stall" is over....and Carl and Ann deserve some of the credit.

  • this is what i call a good couple..same interests,,,in my view to find the right love is as hard as to find the right bone marrow donor...because you need compatibility so not to be rejected

  • Was this before they married?

  • No, they married in 1981.

  • 155 views???.... show your parents and friends about this!

  • EXCELLENT.

    CARL SAGAN was the wise man of the 20th century.

    He is an inspiration for us. We miss him dearly.

  • Great. Thanks for posting.

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