Scilon talks about AIDS and depression

[TheKimdunn]

How cool is that kid on the right? Unflappable.

[ConChaz100]

Notice when a newbie scio is talking to anons and they really get into talking and then another scio comes and stops them. They do not want that person to get to much info to make them start doubting and asking questions..they do it everytime...

[lowtalkerr]

1. She's an idiot

2. MOST religions are inherently against homosexuality (why aren't u ranting at your local priest?)

3. You're students, you think you're important and you have life changing views that only apply to your generation.... but you DON'T (sorry, bubble burster)

[MrWinston1984]

The woman in this video actually seems like a nice lady and hasn't been brainwashed by the cult yet. In a year from now she'll be yelling at the guy in the mask that he's stuck in some electronic incident from a past life.

[MrWinston1984]

watch?v=K2UFkKjjhfA

/watch?v=rbeHtMLEhYg

A common anomaly throughout the world. I guess they're just normal people with pride. Yep.

[lordspectre]

ok maybe there are gay people who do go on cruises like that looking for other men to have sex with (the fact that the video calls them pedophiles is wrong and is quite sickening) but in the uk the same thing happens with the straight culture its called dogging (the pick up thing not the pedo thing) but with the pride they probs did have an orgy but are you telling me that you personally would not sleep with dozens of women who you have never met before at the same time cos i know i would hell

[lordspectre]

most men would do that were men. and yes i did use name calling as a term of communication your right and i have appologised

[MrWinston1984]

And I accepted the apology. Just couldn't fit it into the comment. Hey, at least you didn't ask me what my crimes are. lol

/watch?v=ocw90W44Boc

[lordspectre]

riiiiiigght now i get your argument its not cos there gay its cos there men i see if you put it that way then hell your right lol and yer what the fuck is up with the crime shit lol

[MrWinston1984]

Just a joke. I compared you to a Scientologist but then I thought if you really spoke like a Scientologist you would start ranting incoherently and attacking me rather than have an intelligent conversation.

[lordspectre]

sorry i ment with the scientologists lol what the hell do they think they are doing by asking us that like is it supposed to scare us lol

[MrWinston1984]

Yes, it seems like the longer someone is in Scientology the more irrational they get. This woman here is actually rather sane. She's wary of drugs. She believes in improving her life. Scientology has many valid things within it but because it hasn't "cleared" out the negative aspects of Hubbard's teachings it is plagued with crazy upper level members.

[lordspectre]

yer thats a pretty valid point to make

[MrWinston1984]

Exactly. As men we aren't very discriminating when it comes to sex. We typically want sex as often as we can get. Women offer a natural balance in that, while they love sex also, are more inclined to make an attempt to do it at the appropriate time with the appropriate person(s). I'm not saying all men and women are absolutely this way or the other. I'm just saying that they create the healthy dance of mating. Homosexuality the dance is stripped away to pervert parks and bathrooms.

[MrWinston1984]

By the way, I agree with the Scientologists, just because dogs may have gay sex doesnt' mean it's normal nor does it mean people should do it.

And, yes, homosexual behavior has greatly been spread by homosexuals because homosexuals are already mentally instable and therefore MUCH more promiscuous. Secondly, AIDS spreads far more easily through anal sex than vaginal sex.

[lordspectre]

all animals have gay sex not just dogs and as far as the world is concirned humans are just animals as we are mammals ourselves so ofcourse it is natural it has to be if animals do it,

of course homosexual behaviour is spread ny homosexuals their fucking homosexuals you idiot do you expect them to act straight like hetrosexuals it is nothing to do with mental stability wether a man choses to love another man or a woman choses to love another woman, same as the promiscuarity.

[lordspectre]

heterosexuals are just as promiscuous as homosexuals hell i know alot of monogomous gay people so please do some research on this man the only thing you got right in the whole statement is that AIDS is spread easier analy than vaginaly but either way it doesnt matter as the risks are still very high for both kinds of sex, and also the kids are right there are MORE STRAIGHT PPL with aids than homosexuals

[MrWinston1984]

And, no, you have a very narrow understanding of homosexual behavior. Homosexuals commonly have sex with strangers in bathrooms, public parks, and other inappropriate places with people they haven't even had a conversation with. Yeah, maybe some heterosexuals do that but nowhere near as much as homos. And the only group that has a higher AIDS rate than homosexuals are blacks.

[lordspectre]

your a fuckin bigot you know that, i have a wide understanding of homosexuals alot of hetrosexuals do exactly as you have just pointed out not just homosexuals, your stereotyping a whole group becuase of a minority of people who do that

[MrWinston1984]

Haha. Just like a Scientologist. As soon as you hear the truth you start with the name-calling. lol

watch?v=BYveRdiK_ow

[lordspectre]

errm i am not a scientologist i fuckin hate the cult. I called u a bigot is cos your "facts" have been based on information about stereotypical gay people. the fact that you have given me a link to a gay pride parade proves that fact did you not realise that the gay pride parade is done to show gay people are people too, the fact theyre flamboyent is for show just like the brazilian carnival or the american thanksgiving. sorry for calling u a bigot but at least learn some facts will you.

[MrWinston1984]

I didn't say you were a Scientologists. I said you're just like one. Meaning you have a twisted logic and use name calling as your form of communication.

Here's another link that shows how gay people are just people too. lol

/watch?v=JmS7jttqXE8

I wonder how many orgies went on after this. I wonder how many of them were meeting for the first time. Ugh.

[MrWinston1984]

Many animals eat their siblings too. Many animals shit where they sleep. What's your point?

[theanonwolf]

poor girl. She has only seen the minor early benefits of the tech. In a few months she'll start to see all the silliness going on around her and might perhaps wake up.. if she has the intelligence, character and the guts.

[MrWinston1984]

Exactly. Scientologists don't only lie to outsiders but to each other. Because questioning inconsistencies and flat out illogical beliefs it is difficult for members to understand what is really going on.

[F430CS]

shut the fuck up! like being controlled? :) v

[BKF666]

Wow that lady is smart...... LOL not. She states AIDS is caused by Homosexuals. Hmmmmmmmm Not true stupid lady it is spread by sexual contact with fluid transmission. Any kind straight or gay or mix. No cause for AIDS has been found no patient zero to date. In animals a variation on the AIDS virus has been found(lions). Should this be the cause of the spread into humans? Should this be blamed on gays? Scientology increases IQ FAIL!!! Scientology = FAIL. Please post this to Failblog.

[squilky1951]

She is a nasty piece of work,she tries to manipulate with smiles,wouldnt trust her as far as i could throw her,another sicko.

[HouseSpiderAnon]

Damn guise! I never get scilons to talk this openly on camera. I've been thinking about employing hidden cameras and mics to get this kinda of lulzy conversation.

[midguardz]

Sad thing is anon cant help her. It isn't just about getting them out. do you think theyll be zippy do dah? no this lady has suffered depression is still jolly shaped from protection of being hurt. She makes sweeping generalisations not to be suppressive which is ironically the 1st characteristic of sp but because she's afraid of seeing truth because she believes she's important & helping to save the planet. You take that away from her & she's in her jimjams scoffing timtams & back on the meds.

[darthspeaks]

If all the CO$ cult places acted like her, Anon would actually kind of die off...

[auchraw]

Why do these nice guys believe this woman is sincere? Scientologists lie and lie and lie. They are not allowed to discuss their beliefs with anyone. She has been allowed out for a purpose - to record sound bites? to identify Anon?

[LFraudHubbard]

At least no one was assaulted this time.

[exSCNlovesANON]

WONDERFUL JOB~!~ You guys definately created doubt in this one.

[packetscan]

It was "What are your crimes?"

Now it's "What drugs are you on?"

[jdtrickster4]

$cilons are advised to take vits & minerals & do the PT$ rundown (or runaround, I'm not sure) so they can discover [it's actually called a search & discovery] their SP and as long as it's NOT RON thjey discover, it's all good =) She's well indoctrinated already that it's not about money but if you pried some more, you might find she's already put in a few hundred to a few thousand.

[jdtrickster4]

You planted a seed, though. And she's real new 'cause of the way she says to take your mask off. She's still naive. But she will think about what you said, I know that. Good job!

[jdtrickster4]

They're actually so disassociated from the words yet claim to have perfect duplication. She cannot put 2+2 together. I KNOW she's read THAT PL but there's a disconnect from someone actually doing it. OSA does that! The avg. $cilon does $cientololgy audits of the brain & trng themselves into rondroids. Poor thang!

Not clear yet but wants to be? How much you got?! lol I'm bad. Tell her to RUN LIKE HELL! Unbelievable! $cn: Clearing minds & bank accts. one person at a time! Then meet Xenu =)

[greyhound38]

Sell it baby! Keep on selling it! Put more lipstick on that pig and sell it all day long!

[Lumotaku]

I wonder how scientology handles ppd my mom had it bad after my brother was born and she heard voices in her head like kill the baby and she threw him against the wall. She had 9 shock treatments to get back right. Would scientology lock her in a room and starve her?

[l337anon]

Hmm... she doesn't care. Brilliant logical response.

[Redshift21]

She claims psychiatric drugs cause suicide which is a lie, I wonder what she would do if confronted with the people who have killed themselves after they've been in scientology and her claim that ECT is illegal is crap too, when it first came out ECT was misused and caused some deaths and some side effects because they were incorrectly using higher voltages but now they use much lower voltages and ECT is a very safe therapy.

[IGExpandingPanda]

It's AMAZING to me how on the one hand they will believe without proof that psychiatry is all about shocking people, but on the other hand they won't believe that Narconon burnt their books.

It's also amazing to me they will be critical of psychiatry in the fact that it doesn't have a 100% success rate, yet plug their organization as if they have a 100% success rate.

Talking with these people is frustrating. You want to help but they won't listen.

[FA113]

gah john smith!!!!!!! you retard!!!!! you lost all respect from me when you bought those glasses!!!!!!

[Sparkanoid1]

It doesn't surprise me that the protesters have more knowledge about Scientology than the Scientologists in most cases.

[mechacontext]

im coming down in june, gonna be my first protest EVAR. I look forward to this kind of confrontation. "Have you ever experienced depression" - "yeah" - "what did you do about it?" - "i used psychotropic drugs and sorted myself out" =p

lurking moar

[bodgerd]

good thing she was asked back inside she was starting to get well out of her depth LOL

[nemopriest]

"In don't care about the OT levels. All I care about is getting my life together. Have any of you guys ever had depression?" You know, I'd like to hear her story...

[zaqmlp1234]

how sad... she thinks psychiarty is purely drug therapy. she should research talk and cognitive therapy.

[Redshift21]

The ironic thing is that scientology is based on a lot techniques stolen from the world of psychiatry.

[strikerk]

Irony.

[IhateH1pp13s]

looks like someone is going to end up in ethics...tisk...tisk

[thebaddoctor]

Good Job. Notice how she says your a drug user then says the Co$ wouldn't fairgame. They fairgame first by nature.

[MancCamerANON]

Oh?  Hmm, I shall look into this. Didn't know about that.

Useful fact is useful :)

[San1tarium]

5 stars! Excellent video! Upload more!

[MancCamerANON]

I'll make sure to record more ^^

Also my apologies for not pointing the cam properly the whole time. I was watching her rather than the camera XD

[lipservice0]

well it's not good advice. What good is it to shine a laser at the scientologists? That's giving them a legitimate concern to go to the police with. Shining lasers in people's eyes is really not something to mess around with.

[lolxenulol]

GOOD JOB MANCFAGS!!! scilons don't like a good debate here in london. on the 26th they just called the coppers on us.

[BerthaTheToaster]

Sadly no one was around to record a discussion we had between two scilons an anon and a random passer-by who happened to be a psychiatric nurse. The scilons totally refused to accept that ECT was no longer done and that even when it was it was nothing like they described.

[Deathpunkscumfuck]

Oh! And also on the same day, I had a stress test, and discussed with a Scientologist about my depression. She saw my self-harm scars, laughed and said "OOH DID IT HURT?!"....thank god I wasn't at my lowest, that'd have pushed me over the edge!

Well done Mancfags, one HELL of a WIN!

[Deathpunkscumfuck]

As someone with clincal depression, I'd like to talk a bit on my side about my encounter with anti-depressants and psychiatry.

Without those two things, I'd be dead by now. They have really helped me in my life, and I'm grateful for it. Besides, anti-depressants should be for more SEVERE cases.

She's entitled to her opinion, but people with mental illnesses should access every option possible to seek help in their condition. By cutting that option from them, it can lead to a possible fatality.

[lipservice0]

I keep seeing someone (xenu12) mention bringing a laser to shine in the lens/eyes of scientologists. This sounds like a Scilon troublemaker to me. I would not advise doing this.

[AnonVideos]

yeah, that guy is a scifag, just ignore him.

[CrazyDelaney]

This is awesome. This one is not too far gone and you were so damn polite too. Good job, gentleman.

[kdb955]

She is not to far gone. There is hope for her.

[xenu12]

this cultist seems pretty ok -

when the cultists try and photograph/video you - bring a laser pointer and shine it right into the lens.

[yannis5]

and that moment at the very end when you ask whether she questions why its banned in other countries and she shrugs her shoulders.. you know shel lie in bed tonight and maybe think that everything about scientology is a load of scam!!!

[yannis5]

how you stopped yourself from bitch slapping that ho is the most amazingthing

[phasis]

She is no where near clear, and is actually still quite open. I hate to know what will happen to her when the cult sees this vid.

[xemutv]

You guys have been brainewashed by the internet.

[xemutv]

Lovely work guys.

Do you like picking on ladies in the street?

[ohbuddyiliketowatch]

they were asking questions she was the one "picking" and laughing at serious questions.... just because she isn't aware of it she shouldn't be mocking people with serious concerns its there right to peacefully picket shes come out to instigate with them

[MancCamerANON]

I didnt get the very start, the few seconds before the vid starts. Where she walks out of the Sci building, comes over to us and starts asking us if we've all done drugs, some of that is on there but there was more :) Not quite picking on ladies in the street. More having a debate. ^^

[PlymouthScientology]

Lovely work guys :)

You planted so many seeds in her head, and you did it in such a friendly passive way. Kudos to you, and Im so happy to see Cult Watch starting up in Manchester.

xxx

[secondcitizen007]

Fuck!! Does it mean I am not a student if I don't do drugs??? I better get me some, or I'll never get my degree.

[HairyPotter19]

...Especially the students, you know?

[lipservice0]

Great mix of calmness, persistence, and knowing your shit. She figured she'd through you off with a few stupid questions but you guys were one step ahead of her.

[xenu12]

You guys are by far the BEST at direct confrontation. You are brazen. Keep it up.

[anonprophetorg]

Id have a full copy of the Anderson report (copys available at XENUdotNET replace dot with a .)

handy and give these sorts of question askers a copy.

Great Work Anonymous

[DarthX3nu]

Good work, guys!

I'd suggest, next time mention to the scilons psiquiatric therapy has prooven effective through thousands of independent studies, she can find references at wikipedia (an insert her own independent resourced info if she has any), while Dianetics and the "Tech" have never been validated by independent studies. That's the difference beetwen science and arbitrary claims.

[buttons333]

Well done!

[CultofLRH]

that was well done. The scilons inside saw her flummexed and called her in.

[CultofLRH]

they lie lie lie

[DeimosSaturn]

Near the end of that video, you could see all that confidence and faith begin to falter at its foundations. You brought everything she believed into intense and thorough scrutiny and there wasn't a sliver of hostility in your gesticulations, but every sign she put up was of concession and repression.

The Marcabian Confederacy honors you anons with the Diamond Medal. The hardest medal known to man.

[kitt0rz]

Awesome job was done here.

[MrFyde]

Nice lady

Nice kids

[nonbreeder]

There is a BIG difference between circumstancial depression and CLINICAL depression. One requires midicationa, one does not. That is very simple. One is "the blues" one is a significant imbalance. Who can't those damned scientologists GET that? They want the MONEY given to phychiatrists and spent on helpful medications--for their own agenda. THAT'S why they're so "against it." L Ron Hubbard was on psych meds later in life, by the way!

[Ann0minous]

Her name?

[KineticRic]

Every time she was faced with a real question that she couldn't handle, she changed the topic.

[ckretagentman]

she has a lot of friends...

[HCShannon]

Most of them live inside her head!

[Anonereign]

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[anonymous7790]

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[DeimosSaturn]

It's not like you can tell someone's home address by their face. He just has to be extra careful that he isn't followed home.

Use diversions and decoys. Double back. Climb fences. Switch Cabs. Switch Buses. Switch Disguises.

[anonymous7790]

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