Well, I read the Jezuzfreakhideout interview with Ryan Clark. I liked his answers. However, notice that he tells of very serious problems inside Christian metal bands. Find the interview. It's enlightening, and reflects positively on Clark.
I still will not let one of their CDs into my home or car.
"I still will not let one of their CDs into my home or car"
Maybe you should read the lyrics page of "A Thread of Light" on JesusFreakHideout too. It's from their album "Storm the Gates of Hell". And especially read the behind the song part. Don't put God in a box and condemn Christian metal.
Yes, I am very picky about what I allow into my home and into my heart. Above all things, protect your heart.
When you bring something into your home that violates God's precepts, it gives demons a right to be in your life. When you have demonically influenced items in your home, it gives them a right as well. Look for teachings from Paul Hammond or Win Worley to learn more on these spiritual laws.
That's absurd my friend, haha do you realize Pastors are corrupt? You have no idea what they are influenced by...I'm curious what type of music DO you allow? Because if you say hymns, they were at one time used for bad and played in bars and saloons...you can use anytype of sounding music for good, GO READ THE BIBLE PSALM 150
The Bottom line is that If Demon Hunter or any other band's goal is to please God, then how they do it shouldn't be an issue. Who are we to judge what's going on in people's hearts? Only God can judge a person's heart because he knows their hearts as well as the hearts of everyone who ever lived or will live in the world. We can only see one's actions see if they line up with scripture.
The Bible tells us that if we judge one's heart we also bring judgement upon ourselves.
Wiki the horn symbol... it has a lot more meanings and origins other than "hail Satan." They're more popularly known as the "metal horns." Meaning, of course, "rock on."
When DH does it, I think of their emblem. Short horn, little horn... demon skull, bullet hole, etc...
Love these guys. I'm hoping for a new record in 2010.
At first, I thought the band title intimated hunting and exorcising demons.
But, after listening, and viewing the album covers and they satanic flash (yes, that IS what it means & NO, you can't take a defiled thing and make it holy or innocent just bcz you say)... Now I think this is another in-your-face mockery by satan. The title seems to mean demon, hunter of men's souls.
Read the Bible you nut. You're making up crap. Unless the Bible itself says that flashing the horns is of the devil, it isn't. Read up on your stuff before you go around making an idiot of yourself.
I know you mean well, but seriously. God can minister through this music just as easily as he can through Hymns.
You give me a Biblically accurate reason for why Christian Metal should be considered satanic. You have no backup, no basis, no reason other than your own selfish, obnoxious, stubborn and hypocritical thinking.
Have you read the lyrics lately? They honor and worship God, they offer support and encouragement to fellow Christians. If yout think that doing so through the means of our God-given scream is evil, then you need to take up another religion.
You do two disgusting things here that God hates. First, you use a phrase from the religious spirit of control (a real spirit in the demonic pantheon) "You put limits on God". It always means, 'do it my way, your point fails.'
Second, You justify a thing by simply labeling it "God - given". Don't call what is rotten Godly and don't call what is Godly rotten. God really does not like that.
I hope you will be blessed and receive from God and God only.
After a month you've still failed to give me a Biblically accurate reason backing up your argument.
Your first and only mistake was wasting two minutes of your time typing a post that says absolutely nothing in your own defense, but instead makes your claims appear radical, biased, judgmental, idiotic, unstable and weak.
The human scream IS God-given. It's a part of our vocal system. "Rotten?" Who are you to say what God likes without biblical backup?
Satanic flash? Do your research dumb ass. I know...FOR A FACT...Dio started that. He got it from his Italian grandmother and it was ment as a warning, called evil eyes...it means back off. Retards like you turned it satanic back in the 80's as a wepon against metal. So think before you speak you leach.
To learn how to do this, go to massdeliverance site and listen to Win Worley. Then you will be able to cast out demons. Any believer can cast out demons. It will change your life.
I've realized now that you are nothing but an internet troll. You have no backup, no reasoning, nothing but a pitiful and whiny argument that is so moronic that it's frustrating.
I can't believe I thought you were taking yourself seriously. Cheers.
the reason they do a satanic horn sign is because theres a bullet hole in the head. have any of you noticed that gaping hole where a forehead should be? look it up on their website. its also one sick skull
To everyone saying they don't talk about God in their songs, don't they talk about stuff like hope, strength love, etc.? That's what God is all about!
ok they obviously aren't Satanic or whatever. that hand thing or whatever may have been used to greet the Devil douche or whatever. But it has become a rock symbol more than anything. And they make it something new. They take that hand as a false greeting and crush the demon with it. and whatever lucy says it is he can kiss my ass. Devil thinking hes superior to God, that just cracks me up.
Hey, i agree with fallofshadows and others, even though demon hunter does not address Christ in any of their songs, they still have the good morals of being a Christian, and are trying to spread out faifth in a different form, some metal like Slayer can be un-Godly and satanic, but all that matters is the lyrics, not the genre, like Lecrae is rap, and DC Talk mixes it up, and DH is metal, but all preach the same basic moral.
i would'nt say they don't address Christ in any of their songs because they might in the future. They may not necessarily say Jesus or God in the songs but they have more christian songs than many christian artists do.
You guys are not glorifying God, your full of pride and self indulgence, not musician who is born again would lift that noise to the throne of God in worship.
demon hunter rocks man not my prob. you don't like good(really good) music and it is worshiping god after-all he created all music and if it weren't for dh and flyleaf i never would have found christ. besides it says in the bible if it is worshiping god he likes it no mater what style it is, why do people think heavy music is evil
I love Demon Hunter, it's heavy metal but if u listen to the lyrics its got some good stuff, my frined isn't a very good christain so i'll try to get him to come to youth grp or listen to you guys im not to sure if he'll listen but i'll give it a try.
i liek the dude on the lefts shirt thta band is awsome but yea liek someone on here said I dont get y there is an hred lol and sixteen is my favorite song on the album and isnt a little wierd to argue about religion on a vid just because its demon hunter talking??
I miss the old Demon hunter message board from 2006. We had great discussions there and a lot of us wrote everything on the message board. Youtube is good the christians need to start standing up for Jesus in our dark times. Praise be to God for his glory! John 3:16 also remember anger is a bitter fruit
IMPORTANT: That \m/ (metal-horns) they do is from Baal. It is satanic energy (few though). DH though can only praise God, 'cause if they start saying about the Illuminati, Freemasonry and such...they'll take a dip into the Dead Sea!
Disciple express me more though and DH are more commercial. Who cares anyway...I've been shouting about conspirancies for months...pff...faithless...
and by the way Jim, there is ablosutely nothing in the bible that says you can't express your love for God by screaming and playing faster and heavier music. I'm pretty sure God isn't going to send you to hell for playing at a faster tempo than amazing grace..unless he told you that personaly =D
True..it was never said in the bible to make a joyful noise with acoustic guitars, piano, and tamborines or any soft instrument you can get your hands on. It says make a joyful NOISE unto the lord. If it's worship of God...it's accepted by God.
im a christian jim and I listen to christian metal. Theres nothing wrong with it, we all express ourselves differently and this is just one way for some to do it. Your giving the trademark stereotype that all christians must be prim and proper and not a hair out of place or they are going to hell. Thats the one that makes us look bad.
why are you hating on Demon Hunter Jim? they are a Christian rock band. i have no idea why your trying to get them to change. their a great band and good followers of Christ. just because they worship differently from you doesn't make it wrong. they worship in song not just to show their love of the Father but to try and reach others who might not love God but love music. i just don't understand. whats wrong with the way they sing? they aren't demonic. i love their music.
and oh, music and everything under it is God's.. satan perverted it and so it became horrid.. and what counts in a song is the lyrics right? its juz like people, no matter how "horrible" one looks, it doesnt mean one is horrible inside out.. hhmm.. i pray for this band because somehow, they bring change to those bands who are satanic and the people listening to them. rather than condeming, i suggest you pray for them ^_^ because we are all sinners. its juz my opinion. Godbless you!
@ jim, yeah.. u have a strong point. but how can we reach out to those "unbelievers" whos been saturated and influenced with metalcore? hardrock? and all... i dont think we can juz introduce to them songs like "hymns" and all, dont get me wrong but i really like your point, but i juz need this question answered though.. even Jesus became man so He can reach out to man.. Godbless you
Psalms 105:1 O give thanks unto the LORD; call upon his name: make known his deeds among the people. Psalms 98:4 Make a joyful noise unto the LORD, all the earth: make a loud noise, and rejoice, and sing praise.
Psalms 95:1 O come, let us sing unto the LORD: let us make a joyful noise to the rock of our salvation.
Psalms 81:1 Sing aloud unto God our strength: make a joyful noise unto the God of Jacob.
who cares if they are Christian or if they are even violateing anything(i dont think they are)...the important thing is that they're music is good....and i mean very good
Gods music should convey a message that is clearly understood.
In 1Cor 14:15 the Bible says "What is it then? I will pray with the spirit, and I will pray with the understanding also: I will sing with the spirit, and I will sing with the understanding also"
Psalms 47:7 For God is the King of all the earth: sing ye praises with understanding.
Also, Gods Spirit within a person produces "love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, 23 Meekness, temperance..." (Gal 5:22-23) When this music is played without the lyrics what do you see the audience do? They start moshing, head banging, and violent emotions coming out. Just the opposite of what Gods Holy Spirit produces in a person.
I have heard tons of unsaved people say they love the "music" and not the message. Jesus said in John 15:19 "If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you." Some of the messages are Godly and the unsaved hates it but they love the music. But Jesus said the ungodly will hate those who stand for Him but the heavy metal genre has a huge followings of unsaved people
Metal breaks the laws of Sanctification Jesus prayed about in John 17. Sanctification is God setting us apart from the world for a process of being made holy. In John 17 Jesus was about to leave this world and He was praying for His disciples. Not that God would take them out but keep them from taking part of its evil ways. Every one agrees that rock/metal was developed by ungodly groups (the world) By placing Godly lyrics on ungodly music is violating John 17.
The very style of metal music it to draw attention to the music and the musicians. The extravagant clothes, tattoos, violent head banging, aggressive guitars and drums, and aggressive camera shots in the videos clearly show that the attention is given to the performer and not the Savior.
1Cor 10:31 Whether therefore ye eat, or drink, or whatsoever ye do, do all to the glory of God.
are you some sort of PCC, KJV-only, Bible thumping legalist? Getover it... peoplewill always like ti music, and we need Christans out there t fight the tide of dakness in the metal world... i hope to join their ranks oon... and don't eve bother prayingfr me: I'm Christian who likes heavy metal,and i will never chage... PCA culdn't change me, ad you can't either... and you're taking the Scripture competly out of text!
judge not lest ye be judged...sound familiar? in the midst of your 'holier than thou' rantings, you are committing a sin. by comparing beanguitarist77 to an atheist, you are sinning. judging is God's job. not yours. as Christians, we may judge 'sin', but you cannot judge the person. to decide a person isn't a Christian, especially when you don't know them...well, that sir, is SIN. and may God Bless you and yours
There is nothing wrong with this music at all. It praises God, and has brought many people to Him. You have used Romans 3:8 out of context completely. This music is not at all un-Godly. You have shown people why Christians have a bad stereotype. I pray that your eyes will be opened and you will be able to see that this music Glorifies God, and isn't "evil" as you have so blindly claimed.
The Context would be that a person or band would have to purposely choose to do something evil. And I am not ignoring the other 5. You are very miss-informed and biased. Look at the lyrics. They are Godly, and have a great message. Also how are their Guitars "evil"? Please get all the facts before you slander something.
God says to go out and spread the gospel. he doesn't say to use a certain method. if it is bringing people to Christ, who are you to say it is wrong...oh and by the way, be careful. taking something that is of God, and saying it is of the devil, well that's blaspheming the Holy Spirit. which as you should know, is an unforgivable sin. pray about this. study the Word and ask God to show you what he wants u to see. go with an open mind. Satan can come in many forms and methods...but so can God
if the spirit is on a band or a song, does it really matter what genre it is? whose to say that we as christians can't worship to whatever style music we want? the bible says to worship, to lift a joyful noise. if that joyful noise happens to be metal and screaming, then why not. true, metal was first created in a completely secular manner. but we have made our own genre. christian metal is amazing no matter how you judge it
It may be joyful to your flesh but not to Gods ears. Remember, worship is God directed not us directed. When worship is centered around our desires it is no longer Godly worship
and who are you to say that its not joyful to Gods ears? show me scripture that says that metal is evil or that we are only supposed to worship to praise music. If the lyrics are God oriented, who cares about the genre music? I love praise and worship, and I love metal. Thats how it is and unless the Holy Spirit tells me otherwise, thats how its gonna stay.
k jim, look at the song as we wept, the whole song is about jesus dieing on the cross, the whole song is about the sheding of blood, and as for gospel through music, david sang and danced to praise, if this is their form of praise, power to them
Yea I have heard that side of the metal head debate many times. Yet I don't understand how David doing a Jewish custom dance that had him leading for joy. Dancing to bring attention to yourself or your body therefore would be sinful.
As far as the lyrics. They are so generic they could mean anything. The bottom line is that DH is ashamed of Christ and that is why they do not get specific.
im not sure about the whole generic label. i doubt they could mean anything. when it specificly says "You have bled and died to justify me." kinda straight to the point. But i brought up the david thing because he was praising in his own form. praise comes from the heart, not a book. I believe gospel music is less than DH,because Ryan Clark, the lead singer, wrote the lyrics himself and what he sings is deaper than just mouthing the words from a book. He just shows anouther form of praise
No, You seem to be nice and not angry like some that debate this topic with me.
My position in metal music is that it points way more to self than to Christ. By making metal music "religious", it gives bands and excuse to do what they love and thats rock out. Metal music has done so much to influence people in a bad way. Why would God use this style knowing that? Why would He be happy if bands like DH never mention His Sons Name?
Ok, with that argument, think of it this way. I believe when it talks about david singing and dancing, that was the first time the bible talks about song and dance as praise to the lord, but song and dance is one of the oldest types of heathen praise, so in this sense, david used a heathen, evil ritual and turned it to somthing to please the lord
I don't remember the exact line, but I remember that somewhere in the Bible it talks about people "singing songs of praise for the Lord." In other words, if you write music to praise God and to spread His word, it is good, no matter what style of music it is.
By mentioning Romans 10:13, you seem to be saying that the band members have never called upon the Lord's name. A band can be quite Christian and not say "Jesus" at all. Also, if their goal was to save more people, it is a better approach to spread the music to atheists by making it something they'll listen to, instead of shoving religion down somebody's throat. I'm not saying this is the goal of the band, but saving more people is always a nice thing to do.
However, anyone can claim to be Christian and follow Christ. But only some of those people will truly follow Christ, and show that their lives, their very thought processes and morals, have changed.
this music is good for people because if they live metal but dont want to dishonor christ they can listen to this. also it helps people who like this music that arent christians and it speaks to them on their level
I don't necessarily care if it's Christian or not. Whether they might say the F word once or twice. I just care if the song has a point or a message and can make people happier and make the world a better place.
YO do u think Metallica is a satanic band? cuz i luvem but i luv christ more, so idk is tis ok in his point of view. U tink u cn answer me tis question?
How is that not mentioning God? Sometimes shoving our faith down other throats of others is not the way to win them over. You have to connect with people and this style of music connects with many who need to be saved in ways many Christians' conventional means of witnessing never could.
The way God told us to bring people into the Kingdom is by "love for one another", prophecy, praying for, and healing by faith, of the sick... The Bible never says to go and play music to bring people in.
If you had enough faith to pray and see people healed by the power of God, would you need this music???
hey guys i first heard your song: Fading Away: on SteelRoots guys i dont know how to add people to my buddys but as ive said on all your other vids ive please add me to buddys p.s. keep on rockin you help people more than you know stay in this world... and become saved
God has seriously blessed you with the gift of music!Thanks for making music with a purpose!You are reaching many people for the Lord!!! Keep rocking for the ROCK!!! :)
WOW!! its actually them!!! i love those guys so much! i wish i could meet them in person, or at least perform live. they are my heros, theyve inspired me so much and are one of the few things that keep me sane. my favorite songs are Follow the Wolves and Sixteen. Ryan and Don are also kinda hot. to me anyways. and ryan has an amazing voice. i know, im a crazed fan. lol. God bless you DH!
Well, I read the Jezuzfreakhideout interview with Ryan Clark. I liked his answers. However, notice that he tells of very serious problems inside Christian metal bands. Find the interview. It's enlightening, and reflects positively on Clark.
I still will not let one of their CDs into my home or car.
KnowJesusKnowPeace 2 years ago
"I still will not let one of their CDs into my home or car"
Maybe you should read the lyrics page of "A Thread of Light" on JesusFreakHideout too. It's from their album "Storm the Gates of Hell". And especially read the behind the song part. Don't put God in a box and condemn Christian metal.
xdarklightxo 2 years ago
wow...you wouldn't great Christian lyrics into your home...sad
gypsyjew22 2 years ago
Yes, I am very picky about what I allow into my home and into my heart. Above all things, protect your heart.
When you bring something into your home that violates God's precepts, it gives demons a right to be in your life. When you have demonically influenced items in your home, it gives them a right as well. Look for teachings from Paul Hammond or Win Worley to learn more on these spiritual laws.
KnowJesusKnowPeace 2 years ago
That's absurd my friend, haha do you realize Pastors are corrupt? You have no idea what they are influenced by...I'm curious what type of music DO you allow? Because if you say hymns, they were at one time used for bad and played in bars and saloons...you can use anytype of sounding music for good, GO READ THE BIBLE PSALM 150
gypsyjew22 2 years ago
HA ryan satanic! BIGGEST JOKE EVER
xohaleylandxo 2 years ago
The Bottom line is that If Demon Hunter or any other band's goal is to please God, then how they do it shouldn't be an issue. Who are we to judge what's going on in people's hearts? Only God can judge a person's heart because he knows their hearts as well as the hearts of everyone who ever lived or will live in the world. We can only see one's actions see if they line up with scripture.
The Bible tells us that if we judge one's heart we also bring judgement upon ourselves.
MrRR40 2 years ago
Wiki the horn symbol... it has a lot more meanings and origins other than "hail Satan." They're more popularly known as the "metal horns." Meaning, of course, "rock on."
When DH does it, I think of their emblem. Short horn, little horn... demon skull, bullet hole, etc...
Love these guys. I'm hoping for a new record in 2010.
trollcaptain 2 years ago
At first, I thought the band title intimated hunting and exorcising demons.
But, after listening, and viewing the album covers and they satanic flash (yes, that IS what it means & NO, you can't take a defiled thing and make it holy or innocent just bcz you say)... Now I think this is another in-your-face mockery by satan. The title seems to mean demon, hunter of men's souls.
Be awake, people!
KnowJesusKnowPeace 2 years ago
Read the Bible you nut. You're making up crap. Unless the Bible itself says that flashing the horns is of the devil, it isn't. Read up on your stuff before you go around making an idiot of yourself.
I know you mean well, but seriously. God can minister through this music just as easily as he can through Hymns.
trollcaptain 2 years ago
Oh? God ministers through satanic music? I didn't know about that. Does God know?
So anything not explicitly labeled in the Bible as "of the devil" it isn't of the devil???
What about flying aircraft into buildings? What about worshiping the space rock in the Qabbah? (which Muslims do.)
KnowJesusKnowPeace 2 years ago
You give me a Biblically accurate reason for why Christian Metal should be considered satanic. You have no backup, no basis, no reason other than your own selfish, obnoxious, stubborn and hypocritical thinking.
Have you read the lyrics lately? They honor and worship God, they offer support and encouragement to fellow Christians. If yout think that doing so through the means of our God-given scream is evil, then you need to take up another religion.
You're putting limits on what God can do.
trollcaptain 2 years ago 2
You do two disgusting things here that God hates. First, you use a phrase from the religious spirit of control (a real spirit in the demonic pantheon) "You put limits on God". It always means, 'do it my way, your point fails.'
Second, You justify a thing by simply labeling it "God - given". Don't call what is rotten Godly and don't call what is Godly rotten. God really does not like that.
I hope you will be blessed and receive from God and God only.
KnowJesusKnowPeace 2 years ago
After a month you've still failed to give me a Biblically accurate reason backing up your argument.
Your first and only mistake was wasting two minutes of your time typing a post that says absolutely nothing in your own defense, but instead makes your claims appear radical, biased, judgmental, idiotic, unstable and weak.
The human scream IS God-given. It's a part of our vocal system. "Rotten?" Who are you to say what God likes without biblical backup?
You need to reflect on your reasoning.
trollcaptain 2 years ago
Satanic flash? Do your research dumb ass. I know...FOR A FACT...Dio started that. He got it from his Italian grandmother and it was ment as a warning, called evil eyes...it means back off. Retards like you turned it satanic back in the 80's as a wepon against metal. So think before you speak you leach.
rufusBalls 2 years ago
YES I MISSPELLED WEAPON!
rufusBalls 2 years ago
The "evil eye" is an Egyptian charm.
Christian ward off evil with the name of "Jesus."
To learn how to do this, go to massdeliverance site and listen to Win Worley. Then you will be able to cast out demons. Any believer can cast out demons. It will change your life.
KnowJesusKnowPeace 2 years ago
I've realized now that you are nothing but an internet troll. You have no backup, no reasoning, nothing but a pitiful and whiny argument that is so moronic that it's frustrating.
I can't believe I thought you were taking yourself seriously. Cheers.
trollcaptain 2 years ago
I can't wait for the new album in 2010!!! Demon Hunter is my fave band!! WHOO HOO!!
KatsuraClow 2 years ago
Mortification is better, However Demon Hunter Still is so awesome /Praise God\
JesusxXxLovesxXxYou 2 years ago
ok, DEMON HUNTER
SATAN SKULL
BULLET HOLE IN THE FOREHEAD
anyone else makin the connection???
take a closer look people
DH kicks major ass \m/
tytheawsomeguitarguy 2 years ago
lol dude what the fuck...people do it at loads of concerts not just Demon Hunter...
its true meaning is that satanists use it, but that is not why people do it, however that is its true meaning.
headphones222 2 years ago
the reason they do a satanic horn sign is because theres a bullet hole in the head. have any of you noticed that gaping hole where a forehead should be? look it up on their website. its also one sick skull
dapinopeanut 2 years ago
that is a satanic hand symbol...it is true ask any practasing satanist
headphones222 2 years ago
Well people don't do it because they want to hail Satan. They do it as if it means rock on. It is only a gesture.
7Angelic7Militia7 2 years ago 2
why they do satanic horn hand sign?...
17deg 2 years ago
That's not satanic. That's just "rock on."
LNOL 2 years ago 2
woot august burns red shirt
RazzleMcDazzle989 2 years ago
To everyone saying they don't talk about God in their songs, don't they talk about stuff like hope, strength love, etc.? That's what God is all about!
Rock on DH!!!!!
pedrothepotato 2 years ago 7
ok they obviously aren't Satanic or whatever. that hand thing or whatever may have been used to greet the Devil douche or whatever. But it has become a rock symbol more than anything. And they make it something new. They take that hand as a false greeting and crush the demon with it. and whatever lucy says it is he can kiss my ass. Devil thinking hes superior to God, that just cracks me up.
jdmammoth62 3 years ago 2
Johnny Cash and Demon Hunter are the best christian artists in the world...
Jesus 4 ever..
CrashFoXX 3 years ago
Hey, i agree with fallofshadows and others, even though demon hunter does not address Christ in any of their songs, they still have the good morals of being a Christian, and are trying to spread out faifth in a different form, some metal like Slayer can be un-Godly and satanic, but all that matters is the lyrics, not the genre, like Lecrae is rap, and DC Talk mixes it up, and DH is metal, but all preach the same basic moral.
couchman44 3 years ago
I agree. Their songs have christan meanings even though they don't use the name God or Jesus.
ColubridKing 3 years ago
i would'nt say they don't address Christ in any of their songs because they might in the future. They may not necessarily say Jesus or God in the songs but they have more christian songs than many christian artists do.
flamingbassdude 3 years ago 3
You guys are not glorifying God, your full of pride and self indulgence, not musician who is born again would lift that noise to the throne of God in worship.
JoaquinJB 3 years ago
that is the most arrogant statement I have ever seen
PainfullySaid 3 years ago
demon hunter rocks man not my prob. you don't like good(really good) music and it is worshiping god after-all he created all music and if it weren't for dh and flyleaf i never would have found christ. besides it says in the bible if it is worshiping god he likes it no mater what style it is, why do people think heavy music is evil
diehardfan5 3 years ago
Amen JoaquinJB!!
Preach it brother!
jimthebaptist67 3 years ago
that was for jimthebabtist by the way
Jakedabigsnake 3 years ago
this symbol in hand is of the satan, take kare, the music is good more take kare with this
Crevin777 3 years ago
All comments below this one are invalid.
darkclown6 3 years ago
I love Demon Hunter, it's heavy metal but if u listen to the lyrics its got some good stuff, my frined isn't a very good christain so i'll try to get him to come to youth grp or listen to you guys im not to sure if he'll listen but i'll give it a try.
Krutchs 3 years ago
i liek the dude on the lefts shirt thta band is awsome but yea liek someone on here said I dont get y there is an hred lol and sixteen is my favorite song on the album and isnt a little wierd to argue about religion on a vid just because its demon hunter talking??
kirkrod 3 years ago
I miss the old Demon hunter message board from 2006. We had great discussions there and a lot of us wrote everything on the message board. Youtube is good the christians need to start standing up for Jesus in our dark times. Praise be to God for his glory! John 3:16 also remember anger is a bitter fruit
Freedomcall82 3 years ago
IMPORTANT: That \m/ (metal-horns) they do is from Baal. It is satanic energy (few though). DH though can only praise God, 'cause if they start saying about the Illuminati, Freemasonry and such...they'll take a dip into the Dead Sea!
Disciple express me more though and DH are more commercial. Who cares anyway...I've been shouting about conspirancies for months...pff...faithless...
[yea, yea...get more thumbs down]
Leylaqq 3 years ago
and by the way Jim, there is ablosutely nothing in the bible that says you can't express your love for God by screaming and playing faster and heavier music. I'm pretty sure God isn't going to send you to hell for playing at a faster tempo than amazing grace..unless he told you that personaly =D
Dirkislaw1 3 years ago 2
True..it was never said in the bible to make a joyful noise with acoustic guitars, piano, and tamborines or any soft instrument you can get your hands on. It says make a joyful NOISE unto the lord. If it's worship of God...it's accepted by God.
mykylc 3 years ago
I completely agree with JoshBaumgardner
Dirkislaw1 3 years ago
im a christian jim and I listen to christian metal. Theres nothing wrong with it, we all express ourselves differently and this is just one way for some to do it. Your giving the trademark stereotype that all christians must be prim and proper and not a hair out of place or they are going to hell. Thats the one that makes us look bad.
JoshBaumgardner 3 years ago 4
august burns red tee. awesomeness!
Shaujia 3 years ago
the weird thing about it is that there's an 'H' in there, "August Burns Hred"
GuitarHeroJunky 3 years ago
why are you hating on Demon Hunter Jim? they are a Christian rock band. i have no idea why your trying to get them to change. their a great band and good followers of Christ. just because they worship differently from you doesn't make it wrong. they worship in song not just to show their love of the Father but to try and reach others who might not love God but love music. i just don't understand. whats wrong with the way they sing? they aren't demonic. i love their music.
Artimiswolf 3 years ago
Jim's all over the place. we're argueing him over on fading away. he's kinda cooled down for now. we'll see if he starts up again.
silentbreath67 3 years ago
great band am really getting into christian metal bands
dittiabob 3 years ago
i like how two of the guys a like bundled up, and the guy on the left is just wearing a t-shirt.lol
Hersch137 3 years ago
August Burns Red ;) He's an August Burns Red fan too. Funny how these bands fit together.
thenewchance 3 years ago
and oh, music and everything under it is God's.. satan perverted it and so it became horrid.. and what counts in a song is the lyrics right? its juz like people, no matter how "horrible" one looks, it doesnt mean one is horrible inside out.. hhmm.. i pray for this band because somehow, they bring change to those bands who are satanic and the people listening to them. rather than condeming, i suggest you pray for them ^_^ because we are all sinners. its juz my opinion. Godbless you!
deishouz 3 years ago
@ jim, yeah.. u have a strong point. but how can we reach out to those "unbelievers" whos been saturated and influenced with metalcore? hardrock? and all... i dont think we can juz introduce to them songs like "hymns" and all, dont get me wrong but i really like your point, but i juz need this question answered though.. even Jesus became man so He can reach out to man.. Godbless you
deishouz 3 years ago
lol dude, shut the fuck up. if you like the music just listen to it, if not... fuck off
derekmcclure13 3 years ago
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6 Biblical reasons why Metal can not be Christian
jimthebaptist67 3 years ago
Verses proving that Metal can be Christian:
Psalms 105:1 O give thanks unto the LORD; call upon his name: make known his deeds among the people. Psalms 98:4 Make a joyful noise unto the LORD, all the earth: make a loud noise, and rejoice, and sing praise.
Psalms 95:1 O come, let us sing unto the LORD: let us make a joyful noise to the rock of our salvation.
Psalms 81:1 Sing aloud unto God our strength: make a joyful noise unto the God of Jacob.
There's alot more But I think you get the point
thenewchance 3 years ago 2
oh shut the fuck up jim...
who cares if they are Christian or if they are even violateing anything(i dont think they are)...the important thing is that they're music is good....and i mean very good
wormincle 3 years ago
Violation #1
Gods music should convey a message that is clearly understood.
In 1Cor 14:15 the Bible says "What is it then? I will pray with the spirit, and I will pray with the understanding also: I will sing with the spirit, and I will sing with the understanding also"
Psalms 47:7 For God is the King of all the earth: sing ye praises with understanding.
jimthebaptist67 3 years ago
Violation #2
Also, Gods Spirit within a person produces "love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, 23 Meekness, temperance..." (Gal 5:22-23) When this music is played without the lyrics what do you see the audience do? They start moshing, head banging, and violent emotions coming out. Just the opposite of what Gods Holy Spirit produces in a person.
jimthebaptist67 3 years ago
Violation #3
I have heard tons of unsaved people say they love the "music" and not the message. Jesus said in John 15:19 "If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you." Some of the messages are Godly and the unsaved hates it but they love the music. But Jesus said the ungodly will hate those who stand for Him but the heavy metal genre has a huge followings of unsaved people
jimthebaptist67 3 years ago
If hevy metal has large groups of unsaved followers then wouldnt it make sense for that to be a good place to start spreading God's word?
Didnt Jesus say "Go and make fishers of men."
cowboy4jc 3 years ago
Sorry, I messed that up.
"Follow me, and I will turn you into fishers of men" Matt 4:19
So who isnt to say that these guys arnt following Jesus and doing as he commands?
cowboy4jc 3 years ago
It's also said make a joyful noise onto the Lord in Psalm 100 and others. If it's worship of God...it's accepted.
mykylc 3 years ago
Violation #4
Metal breaks the laws of Sanctification Jesus prayed about in John 17. Sanctification is God setting us apart from the world for a process of being made holy. In John 17 Jesus was about to leave this world and He was praying for His disciples. Not that God would take them out but keep them from taking part of its evil ways. Every one agrees that rock/metal was developed by ungodly groups (the world) By placing Godly lyrics on ungodly music is violating John 17.
jimthebaptist67 3 years ago
How do you know that the "music" is unGodly?
Tell me, what makes "music" Godly or unGodly?
cowboy4jc 3 years ago
Violation #5
Some will say "but we reach the ungodly with this music". In Romans 3:8 Paul condemns "doing evil, that good may come"
jimthebaptist67 3 years ago
But what makes it evil?
cowboy4jc 3 years ago
Violation #6
The very style of metal music it to draw attention to the music and the musicians. The extravagant clothes, tattoos, violent head banging, aggressive guitars and drums, and aggressive camera shots in the videos clearly show that the attention is given to the performer and not the Savior.
1Cor 10:31 Whether therefore ye eat, or drink, or whatsoever ye do, do all to the glory of God.
jimthebaptist67 3 years ago
are you some sort of PCC, KJV-only, Bible thumping legalist? Getover it... peoplewill always like ti music, and we need Christans out there t fight the tide of dakness in the metal world... i hope to join their ranks oon... and don't eve bother prayingfr me: I'm Christian who likes heavy metal,and i will never chage... PCA culdn't change me, ad you can't either... and you're taking the Scripture competly out of text!
beanguitarist77 3 years ago
Bean,
I've had atheist call me the same thing you just did. Which side of the fence are you on?
jimthebaptist67 3 years ago
judge not lest ye be judged...sound familiar? in the midst of your 'holier than thou' rantings, you are committing a sin. by comparing beanguitarist77 to an atheist, you are sinning. judging is God's job. not yours. as Christians, we may judge 'sin', but you cannot judge the person. to decide a person isn't a Christian, especially when you don't know them...well, that sir, is SIN. and may God Bless you and yours
m1ghtysauc3 3 years ago
If anyone needs prayer and help overcoming this music just let me know. I understand where you are coming from because I have been there.
jimthebaptist67 3 years ago
There is nothing wrong with this music at all. It praises God, and has brought many people to Him. You have used Romans 3:8 out of context completely. This music is not at all un-Godly. You have shown people why Christians have a bad stereotype. I pray that your eyes will be opened and you will be able to see that this music Glorifies God, and isn't "evil" as you have so blindly claimed.
jp19914 3 years ago
jp,
Can you give me the "context" of Romans 3?
And are you ignoring the other 5?
jimthebaptist67 3 years ago
The Context would be that a person or band would have to purposely choose to do something evil. And I am not ignoring the other 5. You are very miss-informed and biased. Look at the lyrics. They are Godly, and have a great message. Also how are their Guitars "evil"? Please get all the facts before you slander something.
jp19914 3 years ago
jp,
They have been told and shown that metal has came from groups like zepplin, alice cooper and deep purple.
They know its wrong but even though they may have good intentions (and I believe they do), they still choose wrong methods.
jimthebaptist67 3 years ago
God says to go out and spread the gospel. he doesn't say to use a certain method. if it is bringing people to Christ, who are you to say it is wrong...oh and by the way, be careful. taking something that is of God, and saying it is of the devil, well that's blaspheming the Holy Spirit. which as you should know, is an unforgivable sin. pray about this. study the Word and ask God to show you what he wants u to see. go with an open mind. Satan can come in many forms and methods...but so can God
m1ghtysauc3 3 years ago
Show me the gospel in DH music?
You cant even show me the name of Jesus Christ.
Read 1Cor 15:1-6 and then compare that to DH music.
Show me anywhere in the Bible that the gospel was spread by music. Souls have always been won by preaching the Word of God.
Metal music was created by the ungodly and for the ungodly. Christians need to get eyes off of the devils toys.
jimthebaptist67 3 years ago
if the spirit is on a band or a song, does it really matter what genre it is? whose to say that we as christians can't worship to whatever style music we want? the bible says to worship, to lift a joyful noise. if that joyful noise happens to be metal and screaming, then why not. true, metal was first created in a completely secular manner. but we have made our own genre. christian metal is amazing no matter how you judge it
robster607 3 years ago
It may be joyful to your flesh but not to Gods ears. Remember, worship is God directed not us directed. When worship is centered around our desires it is no longer Godly worship
jimthebaptist67 3 years ago
and who are you to say that its not joyful to Gods ears? show me scripture that says that metal is evil or that we are only supposed to worship to praise music. If the lyrics are God oriented, who cares about the genre music? I love praise and worship, and I love metal. Thats how it is and unless the Holy Spirit tells me otherwise, thats how its gonna stay.
robster607 3 years ago
Is DH music joyful to God?
They never mention Christ by name.
They never warn of hell like Jesus did many times.
They never mention the death, burial or resurrection of Christ.
But hey, as long as you like it you will never change your mind, right?
jimthebaptist67 3 years ago
Hah.
How much Demon Hunter have you listened to, may I ask?
T34mki11 3 years ago
k jim, look at the song as we wept, the whole song is about jesus dieing on the cross, the whole song is about the sheding of blood, and as for gospel through music, david sang and danced to praise, if this is their form of praise, power to them
Jakedabigsnake 3 years ago
Yea I have heard that side of the metal head debate many times. Yet I don't understand how David doing a Jewish custom dance that had him leading for joy. Dancing to bring attention to yourself or your body therefore would be sinful.
As far as the lyrics. They are so generic they could mean anything. The bottom line is that DH is ashamed of Christ and that is why they do not get specific.
jimthebaptist67 3 years ago
Remember, Godly worship is God directed and not "me" directed. It's "unto" the Lord and not unto us.
jimthebaptist67 3 years ago
im not sure about the whole generic label. i doubt they could mean anything. when it specificly says "You have bled and died to justify me." kinda straight to the point. But i brought up the david thing because he was praising in his own form. praise comes from the heart, not a book. I believe gospel music is less than DH,because Ryan Clark, the lead singer, wrote the lyrics himself and what he sings is deaper than just mouthing the words from a book. He just shows anouther form of praise
Jakedabigsnake 3 years ago
i dont meen to sound like im attacking you, i just want to understand your thinking
Jakedabigsnake 3 years ago
No, You seem to be nice and not angry like some that debate this topic with me.
My position in metal music is that it points way more to self than to Christ. By making metal music "religious", it gives bands and excuse to do what they love and thats rock out. Metal music has done so much to influence people in a bad way. Why would God use this style knowing that? Why would He be happy if bands like DH never mention His Sons Name?
jimthebaptist67 3 years ago
Ok, with that argument, think of it this way. I believe when it talks about david singing and dancing, that was the first time the bible talks about song and dance as praise to the lord, but song and dance is one of the oldest types of heathen praise, so in this sense, david used a heathen, evil ritual and turned it to somthing to please the lord
Jakedabigsnake 3 years ago
I don't remember the exact line, but I remember that somewhere in the Bible it talks about people "singing songs of praise for the Lord." In other words, if you write music to praise God and to spread His word, it is good, no matter what style of music it is.
fallofshadows 3 years ago
fallofshadows,
How can a band bring glory and praise to God if they refuse to even mention His Sons name in their music?
Romans 10:13
"For whosoever shall call upon the Name of the Lord shall be saved"
jimthebaptist67 3 years ago
By mentioning Romans 10:13, you seem to be saying that the band members have never called upon the Lord's name. A band can be quite Christian and not say "Jesus" at all. Also, if their goal was to save more people, it is a better approach to spread the music to atheists by making it something they'll listen to, instead of shoving religion down somebody's throat. I'm not saying this is the goal of the band, but saving more people is always a nice thing to do.
fallofshadows 3 years ago
Demon Hunter has over 51 songs and never mention Jesus name? Saying Christ name every once in a while is not shoving religion.
Saying Christ name is telling people why they are a Christian
jimthebaptist67 3 years ago
However, anyone can claim to be Christian and follow Christ. But only some of those people will truly follow Christ, and show that their lives, their very thought processes and morals, have changed.
fallofshadows 3 years ago 2
what that verse means is if you are going through hard times to pray and jesus will help acording to his plan
hman3669 3 years ago
this music is good for people because if they live metal but dont want to dishonor christ they can listen to this. also it helps people who like this music that arent christians and it speaks to them on their level
hman3669 3 years ago
I don't necessarily care if it's Christian or not. Whether they might say the F word once or twice. I just care if the song has a point or a message and can make people happier and make the world a better place.
Killcows 3 years ago
YO do u think Metallica is a satanic band? cuz i luvem but i luv christ more, so idk is tis ok in his point of view. U tink u cn answer me tis question?
Wiifanaticnumberone 3 years ago
Lyrics directly from their song Grand Finale
"That final day will fall
And those who curse the sky will face the earth
The many turn to one
The God of gods own righteous son
Begging for that second birth"
How is that not mentioning God? Sometimes shoving our faith down other throats of others is not the way to win them over. You have to connect with people and this style of music connects with many who need to be saved in ways many Christians' conventional means of witnessing never could.
redxgamer 2 years ago
The way God told us to bring people into the Kingdom is by "love for one another", prophecy, praying for, and healing by faith, of the sick... The Bible never says to go and play music to bring people in.
If you had enough faith to pray and see people healed by the power of God, would you need this music???
KnowJesusKnowPeace 2 years ago
they use their musical talents given to them by God to praise Him. they don't try to use their music to try to convert others.
KSIS1GM4 2 years ago
hey guys i first heard your song: Fading Away: on SteelRoots guys i dont know how to add people to my buddys but as ive said on all your other vids ive please add me to buddys p.s. keep on rockin you help people more than you know stay in this world... and become saved
livininbanesshadow 3 years ago
Keep Preaching The Word!!!!!!
Mark 13:13
thegiz2007 3 years ago
dh rules and so does abr, 2 amazing bands.
DaltonDisciple 3 years ago
DH,
God has seriously blessed you with the gift of music!Thanks for making music with a purpose!You are reaching many people for the Lord!!! Keep rocking for the ROCK!!! :)
LUKE 9:23
ibsvdbygrce 3 years ago 2
I love DH!
milkmanfromthesouth 4 years ago
O.O ABR Shirt there lol
Sharkblade5 4 years ago
Holy crap, John Dunn... I went to high school with him. He rocked then he rocks now. Carry on man. Hope I catch you at a show some time.
sicander1 4 years ago
Love you guys keep preaching through your music
ARMAGEDDONBAND 4 years ago
WOW!! its actually them!!! i love those guys so much! i wish i could meet them in person, or at least perform live. they are my heros, theyve inspired me so much and are one of the few things that keep me sane. my favorite songs are Follow the Wolves and Sixteen. Ryan and Don are also kinda hot. to me anyways. and ryan has an amazing voice. i know, im a crazed fan. lol. God bless you DH!
sarah9lovez3music 4 years ago
GO Demon Hunter!!!!keep doing this for Christ DH.....You guys are awesome
cmontou76 4 years ago 2
eu nao entendi
diopfz 4 years ago
I love Jon Dunn's shirt!! August burns red is awesome. even more so DH is awesome!!
TFKrawkz07 4 years ago
the song is I am You. I'm ready to get my deluxe edition!
inparadisium 4 years ago 3
lucky
TFKrawkz07 4 years ago
you guys rock! cnt wait for the new album
koRn11teen 4 years ago 2
i think thats the very first time ive ever heard ryan clark not screaming, besides some of their slower songs...
Reginald450 4 years ago
Ryan Clark sings as often as he screams in the songs!
inparadisium 4 years ago
WOO HOO! GO DH!!! man i cant wait ot get my hands on this cd! yeah!
protoman8700 4 years ago
OH YA CANT WAIT TO GET THE ALBUM!
blackdeath610 4 years ago
Nice August Burns Red shirt Jon! I'm looking forward to the new record.
jk84panhead 4 years ago
whats the song that plays at 0:25?
BTW, I pre-ordered the Deluxe Edition!
Keep rocking for Jesus
"He, the father has given us power-the power to storm the gates of Hell."
diablodude5 4 years ago
The song is "I Am You" it is my favorite off their new album XD
TracerAdvanced 4 years ago
how have you allready heard it?
GroundedForLife27 4 years ago
Don and Ryan look really alike now that don cut his hair.BTW it works for him.
Demonhunted 4 years ago