"How Do They Do It?" Cirrus Airframe Parachute System (CAPS)

[10sbowden]

How much does it cost to have one installed?

[karkuten]

And then you pay 20,000 to rearm the parachute

[edlkAviator]

@MynameisElliot

it depends on the circumstances under which you have to do a forced landing and the fields quality. in some cases it is impossible to land your aircraft for example when you've lost control because a rudder is blocked. in this case the parachute would safe your life. a forced landing on a normal field is a high risk which could cause high damages not only to the airplane but also to its crew. if you try to land on a wet field you could easily rip off the landing gear or roll ove

[LordsOfLanding]

@floridaskater07 See comment below

[LordsOfLanding]

@jwboll. A cirrus will recover from an erect spin just fine and in fact are very difficult airplanes to enter a spin in.

[MynameisElliott]

Is a parachute that much safer than a forced landing in a field? I ask because I'm learning how to do PFLs at the moment for my private license, but I'm learning to do them in a 1970's C-152!

[sixstringfretter]

The only thing that worries me is that with this installed, the emphisis of keeping failures from happening to begin with may become lax. "Well, we don't need to improve that, if it fails, there's a parachute to save the day" mentallity may start to take hold. It's a nice feature, but eliminating engine failures and pilot error should be the number one priority.

[kondakor1998]

@sixstringfretter i completely agree with you people will give a bit of slack because of the chute during preflights and people will miss stuff you would ordinaroly find like a loose screw.

[sixstringfretter]

Yep. According to these guys, they claim that they have save over a hundred planes with close to 300 people. I wish I could see what the reasons for all those failures were. Bet you alot of it is stupid shit that the owners just screwed up.

[hakaufma]

I think it should be mandatory on all planes! Hurry and perfect the technology so the large commercial planes can have these as well! It would give me a great deal of peace of mind when flying! I'd rather hear about this happening instead of having more peanuts offered on my flights!

[drbackjack]

Just think of the size parachute needed for a small commercial aircraft, goodness gracious.

[minored360]

30000 thousand planes in use

and 200 hundred parachutes used ?

that sounds pretty high

[jwboll]

@minored360 they have been selling them for hang gliders, ultralights, homebuilts for a years. Cirrus is the first certified aircraft to install them in their planes to compensate for the unrecoverable spin problem.

[truck501]

awesome what els can i say ??????

[ElijahLynn]

Would be pretty cool if Diamond Aircraft implements these too! I would probably get a Cirrus over a Diamond Star right now but only because of the chute!! I also saw that the Terrafugia will have parachutes too, I wonder if they will be using Boris Popov's chutes too!?

[sphinx245]

DULUTH! 

[AKPride00]

This is basically a flying bomb?

[tommangan7]

@AKPride00 you know nothing about explosives.

[JustPlaneNuts]

Excellent technology. I was actually involved in a forced landing/crash caused by an engine failure about a year ago, fortunately, my friend and I both walked away from it with only minor injuries. Often a safe landing can be made in the event of an engine failure, but there are situations where that is not the case. At those times having BRS as an option could be the difference between life and death.

[yahbluez]

First really? every UL in europe is forced to have a parachute for the whole plane. years befor this brave american invited this "first". be ashamed m*therf*cker!

[SlimySnail44]

@yahbluez haha I don't give a damn

[yahbluez]

First really? every UL in europe is forced to have a parachute for the whole plane. years befor this brave american invited this "first". be ashamed motherfucker!

[floridaskater07]

The Cirrus has them installed on all of their aircraft because they are prone to unrecoverable spins! The Challenger II I fly has one installed and I am Grateful its there.

[rolfen]

I can't believe the fallacies in this video. It is wrong that the parachute saves the plane. It's goal is to save the pilot, the plane usually gets damaged on impact. The reason is that it is much safer to lower the plane on a chute then have the pilot bail out - they can get injured or killed, or may not be able to bail out at all because of the G-forces. The exception is when the plane is on fire - in this case personal chutes are better.

[music2myear]

@rolfen Yes, they do use the term "save the airplane" however, it is clear the meaning is that they are saving the airplane in order to save the passengers.

In a light aircraft there is hardly room for individual 'chutes for each passenger. And getting out of airplanes not designed to get out of mid-air, especially at the low altitudes light planes generally fly at, is hardly a good idea.

It is not a fallacy, it's just not the most accurate or clear wording.

[tauheke]

When it comes to saving lives... this is probably the most wonderful of all inventions and Popov can certainly be proud of this achievement.

One can only imagine too, how many hundreds of lives can be saved if he cracks a 'chute' designed to save something the size of the new A380... !

Here's to all those who said it couldn't be done.

[youngestpilotinGa]

as a search and rescuer it makes my job easier to see a plane from the air for our air crews because of the white and red of the parachute i aplaude what you are doing at BRS

-GAWNG

CAP

[suretobringskills]

The "Slider": a simple, elegant solution which follows the KISS principle.

[youngestpilotinGa]

@suretobringskills couldn't agree more

[misterbonzai08]

What if the part containing the parachute is ripped off if the plane is somehow severed in a mid-air jackknife? I personally think this is a brilliant invention but everyone flying should have their own personal parachutes as a backup - if I'm correct this is law in Germany.

[rhoyboi]

Another proof that this system really works...It just saved an Argentine pilot that rip his plane in mid air last week...Amazing!!

[peanuts2105]

Give that guy a medal

[gigantojim]

I`am looking at learning to fly. I`am not fond of hights to say the least but its something I always wanted to do. I think the parachute idea is great but after checking out all the deployments online, most people still suffer serious injury or die after deploying it. Better than nothing though I suppose.

[Apollo580]

@gigantojim How do they still suffer serious injury or death when the parachute deploys?

[gigantojim]

@Apollo580 If you check out the whole thing, there is a page on the net that tells you every time it has been deployed and what the outcome was etc. Read that, then comment back. Not always the parachute`s fault though, must admit.

[FlyHighRC386]

@gigantojim if it is placed to far away from the CG then it can cause a nose down position or a tail down position, no one has had fatal problems but their can be mild back injury which would result in a bruise

[gustavo87467357]

you still can glide your airplane to a safe landing spot you lazy pilots

[XxMartialArtistxX]

@gustavo87467357 hell yea u can, if u lose ur engine, pilots need to stop acting like this is their only option. Ever heard of a deadstick landing jezus christ.

[beechcraft12]

@XxMartialArtistxX

go fuck yourself. what if the situation is unrecoverable. turning stall departing pattern from a soft field (still gaining airspeed) and your engine quits. hmmmmmm..... where the fuck am i gonna go. spin stall trying to get back to the runway, or right into the pine tees at the forward threshold of the departed runway.......hmmmmmm CAPS comes in handy

[XxMartialArtistxX]

@beechcraft12 First of all lemme ask you this, have you flown a cirrus? If your turning departing a pattern you have to try to stall this thing, and if you stall from turning because the pilot is a dumbass like you and didnt read the stall speeds at angles of bank, i can see why you might need this parachute. Btw if your engine quit and your way above the runway, have you thought of mayb pitching the nose down and finding a suitable landing spot, btw the caps has only been tested at 900ft agl

[beechcraft12]

@XxMartialArtistxX

word. 

[maintheradio]

@XxMartialArtistxX

I'm not taking sides here but let me just point out that you are coming off as the asshole here.



[XxMartialArtistxX]

@beechcraft12 fuckin retard

[beechcraft12]

@XxMartialArtistxX Mr. martialartist, go spin kick your ass outta here and leave me alone. you made your point.

[XxMartialArtistxX]

@beechcraft12 Exactly so stfu

[beechcraft12]

@XxMartialArtistxX fuck off prick.

[XxMartialArtistxX]

@beechcraft12 People like you should be banned from flying with the type of aeronautical knowledge you have. Do the world a favor and stay out of a plane dumbshit

[beechcraft12]

@XxMartialArtistxX fuck off, you piece of shit troll. btw, i earned my wings with the same knowledge as everyone else that is licensed to fly. its not just given to random people, dumbshit. i encourage you to go try it, its a fun hobby/job etc. :)

[XxMartialArtistxX]

@beechcraft12 i know its not given to random people, i know theres alot more training involved, and i know its a good hobby/job. Idk if u can look up other pilots numbers, but if u dont beleive me ill be more than happy to prove to you i have my license as well ;)

[goodgamejackass]

@XxMartialArtistxX You are probably the most ignorant person I've seen. There was an instance where an aircraft was cutoff by another towing a glider - the wire clipped the wing clean off- CAPS is what kept the guy alive. Go ahead and try and deadstick a one winged aircraft not capable of 300+ kts... Idiot.

[DarkKitten878]

we love these birds at Western Michigan University... i think we have about 25 of them. I got to pull the caps in the sim the other day :-)

[pilotfokker320]

The pilot manual for Cirrus SR22 states that deployment may cause serious injury or death! Emergency section, 3-20 I think. Oh great... and that the impact is the same as dropping the aircraft 13 feet high from the ground! Not a fan, not just because of those reasons, but the stick is awful, the throttle is a power lever... not interested.

[vojkanstrasni]

Does anyone know if a similar system is in development for commercial airliners? I mean i would literally pay hundreds more knowing that there is at least some hope of survival in the remote case something aweful happens.

[hogey74]

@vojkanstrasni I'm with you but I think this was looked at back in the 70s and the added weight and cost was considered uneconomical.

[misterbonzai08]

@vojkanstrasni Hallelujah! I wish someone else thought this... ;-)

[BuzzDyou]

For anyone that is interested, google Cirrus Aircraft parachute deployments, there is a complete list of the usages of this system and each pilot and the people aboard the aircraft, location and parameters of the reason for deployment. Excellent work BRS and Cirrus A/C!! Awesome idea.

[misterbonzai08]

@BuzzDyou Awesome indeed. Reading some of the deployment incidents though I can't help but think the next revisions of Cirrus aircraft should employ black boxes to record what caused the plane to lose control and whether the parachute was fired by choice or whether it shot out for no reason!

[all4golf]

Chutes on commercial a/c? What are the chances that both of the engines go out.

[sushi064]

I'm pilot training in an SR20! It is so freakin cool!

[uralus]

This is amazing - I hope it will also be available for commercial jets.

[tonez182]

love the cirrus! did up to my instrument and commercial single engine add on in it and now a proud owner of a cirrus xi

[PlasticRocket]

The Cirrus is the first plane I have owned that my wife will let me take BOTH kids at once... because of the Chute! Proud owner of C-GOPX, 2002 Sr-20.

[rolfen]

@PlasticRocket I also recommend you have personal chutes available in the case of mid-air fire.

[mupsilaama]

our school is getting 3 of SR22's next month!

[semo2010]

this is the way forward, I hate it when people give up before trying, many said this sort of thing couldn't be done, this dude had to go through an incident before he was motivated enough. Glad to see the results. Now, what we need is an all situation parachute solution. be it eject mechanism like jets , or whatever , what matters is that even in a case of explosion, fire, storm it'll take people to safety. Oh, and we want it for passenger planes !! good luck !

[misterbonzai08]

@semo2010 Agreed!

[Sunrunner6993]

It cost me $20,000 to install one on my 2004 Cessna 182-T but I'm happy to see that red handle everytime I leave the ground!!

[MichuNeo]

Amazing!