Come on Dawkins , your getting there, you've already denied that your an atheist and you said you consider yourself an agnostic at the Oxford debate, now take one more step and your almost there !
@MrMaxTruth Dawkins is an Atheist. He is Agnostic in the actual sense of the word pioneered by Thomas Huxley, meaning one can not know if any god is particularly true, and that the ENTIRE Human Race is officially Agnostic on these matters. You can be an Atheist and be an Agnostic, in fact, the two go together hand in hand. All Atheism means is that you reject the assertion and belief of God.
@MrMaxTruth I like that statement of Dawkins. He doesn't believe in a Christian God or any other God, but doesn't reject Christian traditions as part of Western cultural identity. I'm an agnostic myself, and favor the kind of secular society we have in most European countries: "Live and let live". You find very responsible and decent people both among theists and atheists, and there are fanatics on both sides who want to force their opinions on others.
You can be Jewish but not follow the Jewish religion. You can also have Christian history, Richard Dawkins is talking about keeping the history alive, not the religion.
Dawkins a "cultural Christian." Well isn'tt that just grand. A man that finds Christianity repugnant will then from the other side of his mouth say he celebrates certain aspects of that "repugnant" concept?
Dawkins, you are as mixed up as your atheism and evolution stupidities have made your numb brain cloudy!
"There is a God: How the World's Most Notorious Atheist Changed His Mind" by Anthony Flew
This book makes Richard Dawkins' book or Christopher Hirchens book look like comic books.
If Anthony Flew can see these things, why not Dawkins or why didn't Hitchens? The answer is Flew used his mind sufficiently in regards to arguments while Dawkins and Hitchens have not done so. They failed to put pieces together.
What a pile of bullshit! Dawkins would love to see religion banned. He calls it child abuse for allowing kids to be brought up in Christian homes. His buddy, Hitchens, surely wanted religion banned. This guy lies at every syllable!
So, you're a Christian, now, eh Dick? Well, off to church with you. Confess Jesus Christ as your personal savior... no adding "cultural" to anything, you're either a Christian or you're not.
@blues999 I was going to make a very similar commento to yours: this guy doesn't allow comments on the most of his bullshit apologetic videos, and he allows right on this one which is based on dishonest quote mining (or in the best case on misunderstanding for a lack of intelligence).
With the same reasoning Jesus and Paul and all the apostles were Jews!
Again, the only way a religious person can make a point is by twisting truth or outright lie... which is rather ironic since all religions call themselves the truth?
@aaronrettig Ofcourse, but that is the exactly point I am trying to make. Being born a jew or muslim does not need to mean you will remain one all your life.
Yet Paul and the first christians (the first 30 years anyway) were all jews who still followed the jewish customs but were no longer jews in faith.
Jesus himself (if you believe the bible) preached a very different faith to judaism (although he contradicted himself every second page).
Why would I watch the rest of the interview? I don' think you are taking it out of context, you simply are... if you're not, then this is the wrong example you've used, use the bit where he says "I'm a christian". "Cultural" is the worthy disclaimer because it brings a different context and meaning to the claim. I'm sorry to inform you that a misunderstanding of the use of language isn't a strong case for the existence of god.
Dead-to-the-spirit deluded "God Delusion" author & blithering fool scientist goon Richard Dawkins another "leader" given 2 the profane masses is another useful idiot 4 Jesuit machinations
Jesuitical; pertaining to the Jesuits or their principals; designing; cunning; deceitful; prevaricating
The Jesuit Order completely altered the education system 2 suit their Evo-Hoax Agenda to discredit the Bible
Papacy cant have their Counter Reformation 2nd Dark Age DESPOTISM til Bible's destroyed folks
I find this pretty funny.. Every clip with, let's say with Richard Dawkins, uploaded from a RELIGIOUS persons account. Well.. The title is always a lie and misleading. And NONE of the atheist videos are.
"cultural" Christnas as opposed to a real Christian. Yeah, that's not saying much. I could cal myself a "cultural First Nations person" because I like Native American music, but I don't, I'm too honest for that.
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He's just simply saying that he likes to celebrate Christmas and Easter because it's a nice famly tradition. He would NEVER say that he is a believer. I am an Aheist and I like Christmas and Easter and Haloween and my own Birthday and the latter 2 are not Christian traditions but just more examples of cultural traditions.
As a Christian, I think its incredibly stupid, unfair, and misleading to take what Professor Dawkins was explaining out of context like that. If you want to defend your case, then why cheat?
LOL When the man says " I'm a cultural christian simply because I was born into a christian culture" godboy hears "I'm a christian". Can we name any OTHER item that's consistently misinterpreted and taken out of context?
I'm a cultural christian. I am also an agnostic. I have atheist friends that would descibe themselves as cultural hindus and cultural sikhs. Why the problem?
God would never manifest himself nor kill himself for his creation this is clearly the biggest lie in history. Saying God can manifest into a man is like saying a man can manifest into his painting.
God is infinite and man is finite, an infinite being cannot be finite in the same time. I laugh when i think of these foolish christian doctrines. Just imagine God being cradled by a human
There is nothing wrong with culture, christmas was adopted from older pagan religions so whats the problem? Christians are more then happy to continue with the pagan traditions of christmas trees and sun worship as they do when they worship jesus who is a modern sungod based on pagan gods. Christians are just so ignorant as to not know anything about the roots of cultural heritage and believe they invented it.
He called himself a Christian "culturalist" which means he understands that their is a culture around Christianity which goes beyond just believing in fairys. I am one too. I put up a Christmans tree, singe Christmas carols, etc. but I do not believe in a god. I do these things because they are part of my culture and I am ok with that.
The title of this vid is total nonsense. He didn't say he was a believer in God but called himself culturally of a Christian background... that's what a cultural Christian is. Same as cultural Jews: they are nonbelievers who remain within the Jewish culture but aren't part of the religious faithful. There's a difference. Look it up.
Anothe christian lie there.. Are they getting desperate watching their religion/superstition fading away into oblivion, I wonder? You don't see many desperate lies, hoaxes, quote-minings and the like in non-believer videos.:)
@trewornan How about what he actually said? Starting at 0:07 to 0:13, he calls himself a 'Cultural Christian.' He did call himself a Christian. So what? I thought he was Christian all along, and his quest was to get rich on the stupidity of atheists. Serious. All he does is revamp a lot of atheistic arguments that were disproven long ago. And he usually debates amateurs who get flustered easily. Since he is not against Christianity so much, how is it atheists haven't figured out he's a fraud?
@hakeem0436 Dawkins gets rich from being a Scientist. He's not a Christian, he's an Atheist, just like me. He's no fraud, although he is no longer the brilliant thinker he once was, he still has it in there, but it's been diluted by Yes-Men and self inflation. No Atheistic Arguments have ever been disproven, because the only " Atheistic Argument " is that there is no god, and since no god has ever been found, God has been disproven. Learn some real facts.
@BelieveandtrustJesus We have now established you can read. Now all you need to learn is how to construct you OWN sentences. With god on your side, I doubt that will ever happen.
How, by watching this video, am I to assume that he is not a Christian? If he admits that he doesn't believe on Jesus and His work on the cross then you have something to talk about. It all centers around who you think Jesus was and whether or not you believe the Gospel.
its true... the Christian teachings and its ethical code has permeated American society... even atheists' 'morality' is loosely based on the commandments
He did not say he was a Christian. He said he was a cultural Christian. It is a slightly modern term explaining that you can continue following some traditions, holidays for example, without believing in the religion. I , for instance, am an Atheist, but I was a Wiccan. Despite this, I have always celebrated Xmas because my family does.
So he wants to stop all belief in God but still sing things glorifying God? I kind of get what he is saying but why would he want to have anything to do with any kind of God. He seems to quite despises the idea of God, that what gets me.
@Lovestruedefinition Just because religion, in itself is bad, doesn't mean everything it's inspired is also bad. If everything with a religious background were to vanish, the world wouldn't be even close to what it is today. The art, the writings, music, sculptures, and the architecture. No one in the right mind would want rid of all these.
You haven't taken it out of context & it's perfectly obvious what he means. If you think he's not making sense then perhaps you lack the abilty to understand rudimentary english.
Christian who made this video. Do you know your own commandments of not bearing false witness? You just sinned to freaking 24,731 people and counting.
You pick and choose what you want to hear in life just as you pick and choose what you want to believe in your faith. It would be no different to pick verses from the bible about stoning homosexuals or burning witches to make christianity sound bad or hypocritical.
Dead-to-the-spirit deluded "God Delusion" author & blithering fool scientist goon Richard Dawkins another "leader" given to the profane masses is another useful idiot for Jesuit machinations-C.O.
Jesuitical: pertaining to the Jesuits or their principals; designing; cunning; deceitful; prevaricating
The Jesuit Order completely altered the education system to suit their Evo-Hoax agenda to discredit the Bible. They cant have a Satanic society of 'Do as Thou Wilt' if people still follow the Bible
A 21 second clip of Richard Dawkins calling himself a Christian. That's some sweet quote mining right there my dishonest friend. Had we been able to see more I'm pretty sure Professor Dawkins had more to say on the topic. I noticed that on your profile you didn't list "The Babel" as one of your favorite books. With statistics showing that up to 90% of Christians haven't even read a bible, well I'm too not surprised.
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ive never seen this video before, but i already knew what richard was going to say, and also that the person who posted this video was going to be one of the many retarded stupid christians of the world.
This is intellectually dishonest. I am a theist and I do get annoyed with 'fellow compatriots' of mine who taint the christian faith like this, but then again it is incredibly narrow minded if Atheists conclude because of the tyranical christians in history and the over enthusiastic bible bashers in this era that they can have a firm picture in their minds of who God is. Let me tell you something; these people tell you nothing about God, they tell you a lot about their own hypocrissy however.
If your a Christian, or agnostic, FINE. It is your personal choice. I find Sunday worship to be healthy for me, it is comparable to counseling, it makes me feel at ease, it makes me sit back and enjoy my family among other things. I can't deny God. And no, I do not deny science either. But to slander someone for personal beliefs is wrong. Would you call Sir Isaac Newton an idiot? He was a believer as well. Prophecy stated a big falling away, and agnostics are makeing this come true.
He means this as like how since in America, Christmas, having roots in Christianity, is celebrated like a secular holiday by pretty much everyone, and being an Atheist still celebrating it.
Wow, you've blown my mind! I didn't realise that Richard Dawkins, author of 'The God Delusion', believes in God! All argument is irrelevant now, it's irrevocably clear that our only solution is to get down on our knees and praise the Lord.
What he means is that he can respect some of the cultural benefits christians gave the world like love your neighbor. However there are always those who want to promote hate like the poster of this video
@Commonvoice815 He never ever said he wanted to destroy religion. This snippet is taken from a BBC show called 'Have Your Say'. Look it up, and watch the whole thing. He's certainly no hypocrite. But even without watching the whole show it's easy to see what Mr Dawkins meant.
@Commonvoice815 Because he wants to destroy religion. Only by convincing the willing through rationality though... certainly not in a communist way. He didn't say anything here about not wanting to iradicate irrationality, he simply said he wasn't one to despise christian traditions (i.e., christmas, easter) and he does not want people to forget christian history. The denial of demonstable scientific truths such as the theory of evolution (and all the facts it is built on) are what make him mad
KILL KILL KILL. That's all I want to do. Find me some terrorists so I can rip their fucking balls off and smash my boot through their faces. I will kick their faces so hard that my boot will come out through the backs of their heads. And if any A.C.L.U. attorney objects to that, I will fucking rip his motherfucking face off, guaranteed!
when you have scraped the bottom of the barrel enough you might like to listen to what Dawkins is actualy saying, agree or disagree with him but this sort of stupidity is far short of an inteligent debate or worthy point.
HAHAHA. You theists are just fucking morons. You dont even understand what he is saying. Please just keep giving us atheists more fuel for our fire, by being ignorant and uneducated. Im seriously laughing at you fairy tale believers.
@MrKGatl You sound mad, I guess that's something atheists do, huh? This is one theist who put this video up. Besides fuel to the fire? You make atheists look bad. I know many atheists that are kind and pretty cool. You however are just a self centered prude. Congratulations guy.
@bvsandman I am sorry to disappoint you, but I am not mad. It would be useless being mad at 85% of the population. I am more frustrated. I didnt mean for it to sound like I am talking about all theists. I was really talking about these kinds of theists, though I could have worded it better. Self centered? Not sure how you got that out of my comment, and prude is laughable. I dont know many prudish people these days, atheists or theist.
@bvsandman I didnt attack all theists, I already said that. I dont really care if really want to take a shot at me and call me self centered, you know nothing about me.
@MrKGatl "HAHAHA. You theists are just fucking morons" "Please just keep giving us atheists more fuel for our fire, by being ignorant and uneducated" Really? Sounded like it, and don't cry wolf about name calling. Look what you did.
@MrKGatl Offended? No more like made yourself look like a fool. Besides, how am I dumb? Because I don't agree with you? This is why no one wants an atheist president and you are treated differently. You act smug and feel you're better than everyone else. Newsflash kid, you're not.
@MrKGatl I am embarrassed because of those types of theists, but words are a very powerful thing. Both sides do it, atheists tend to take a lot of scriptures out of context. Your first post did make it seem you meant ALL theists.
So, you cut out the part where he begins the satirical statement, and the ending so it looks as if he were a christian. Very clever, yet I'm not as dumb as you think and I know as a fact that he is a devout atheist.
Being a cultural christian is being a secular or irreligious person who identifies with christian culture. Like people who celebrates Christmas but doesn't believe in god for instance.
Out of all the people who could have taught me that it was a creationist.
I do hope @TheismBeatsAtheism reads this comment of mine. Every single video I have seen of yours so far has been laughable. You claim people are saying things in which they are not and you should be ashamed. I really hope you are just trolling.
Is the poster of these videos just a moron him/herself, or has he/she simply got veno intellectual honesty whatsoever, and a piss poor assessment of any viewer's intelligence or good taste who might be prepared to waste their time watching this drivel?
I assume is the latter , as he/she has learned to disallow comments on most of these!
ohmygod this guy's an idiot...he means that he doesn't want to change what christianity eventually brought out in our society, he's still an intelligent atheist.
How is it taken out of context? The context is in the video. Notice they didn't isolate that single statement. Yet, it is always the atheists who take people out of context in that manner and it's always intended to defame the person.
You're also missing the point that Dawkins is confessing that we are a Christian nation. Yet, many of you actually attempt to debate this fact.
Modern atheists are some of the most mentally skewed people we have ever witnessed.
@knowwaie Yes they did isolate that single statement. Why do you think the video is only 21 seconds long? Dawkins' entire statement, including the context, can easily be found here on you tube. You're kidding yourself if you think this video hasn't been carefully edited in a cheap, shallow and meaningless attempt to make it seems that Dawkins is saying he's a christian (in the sense that you evidently interpret the word christian).
Look, I understand that the person who posted this video 'titled it' out of context but the video still contains the context. Atheists on the other hand will actually alter the video in attempt to defame a person. Dawkins reputation is still in tact. But the same can't be said for what atheists have done to people by removing sound bites from context.
I know you're new to the subject but it was actually widely debated by atheists that our country 'was' not Christian.
@knowwaie I have a few issues with your comment. Firstly, the video most certainly does not contain the context. You need to hear what's said before and after these 21 seconds to see the context. Do you understand that? Secondly, it's absurd to claim that "atheists will actually alter the video". Absurd. You have no evidence, you're just flinging baseless accusations around. That's not a wise thing to do. Finally, how do you know I'm new to this?? You know nothing of the sort!
I haven't even heard the entire interview and i know from this video that he is saying that he is not "anti-christian" (though i think he is). That is the context of this statement.
I have no evidence? I've seen thousands of them. The most common is Kent Hovind. Atheist are constantly the ones to remove statements from from context in order to 'defame'. The 'defamation' is the issue. Dawkins is not defamed here.
You know full well that what i'm saying is true. You're retarded.
@knowwaie You're still denying that the video is edited out of context to make it sound like Dawkins is saying he's a christian. Why is that?
Thousands of them? I'd be surprised if you can find even ten videos like that. Anyone who edits a Hovind video in order to defame him is a retard; Hovind digs his own grave with the nonsense he talks, editing him can't make his opinions any more idiotic and plain wrong. It'd almost be doing him a favour to edit him. The man is a troll.
Your ranting over Hovind shows a personal vendetta. Which is exactly what i'm talking about. You're all hateful little bastards who should have never made it out of your mothers womb..
I'll give you just one example of what your breed of lunatics do /watch?v=fAwzpVbiBEE
@knowwaie "You're all hateful little bastards who should have never made it out of your mother's womb"? Are you familiar with the word 'hypocrisy' at all? All I've done is disagree with your opinion, I've not said anything aggresive or rude to you, and you have the nerve to then start swearing at me and calling me hateful?! I have no personal vendetta, neither did I rant. I simply expressed my opinion that Hovind is an idiot and a troll. That's not ranting. What you just did is ranting.
@knowwaie Good work on showing your true colours. You give the strong impression that you're incapable of rational thought, and resort to name calling and profanity as soon as you come up against something you can't handle. Please take note that this is not a rant, there's no profanity, there's no personal attack or accusation of mental handicap. Just a statement of what impression you're giving. So go ahead, call me names. It's your credibility that's down to almost zero.
I apologize my insults. Just read what i told you carefully and go take another look. Go google "hovind debunked" and pay attention. 90% of the refutation is only contextual semantics. Like one of your common rebuttals "Abiogenesis has nothing to do with evolution". Within the context of logical debate, yes it does.
When you understand the subject a little deeper you'll realize that all of your 'reasoning' against your opponents is nothing but misrepresentation of context and semantic jargon.
@knowwaie Thank you for apologizing. I accept your apology. I fear that we're never going to convince one another of anything, though, so I think this conversation is moribund. We all have our beliefs, and we often hold them very strongly, and it can be very frustrating when others don't share them, but that's just the way it is.
Of course, above all there should be peace. Which is all we ask. Generally it is the atheist who will not be peaceful.
You must see the difference. This video is not an attack on Dawkins. If anything it is a blessing. We all show nothing but generosity toward you, we never defame your character. Yet this is exactly what atheists do. If you take the time and look at the atheists video they are nothing but ridicule and character assassination. Don't be surprised when we start getting annoyed.
By the way, we're not annoyed because we're offended. It is your authoritarian mentality. You act like dictators.
If you haven't been informed yet the vast majority of you atheist kids are brainwashed parrots. You represent a fascist oligarchy and you make propaganda videos to shut out opposition. It's getting to the point where if i google someone to hear what they have to say, i find hundreds of butchered videos intended to defame the person, for no other reason but his disagreement with you.
@knowwaie You sound a little paranoid. A fascist oligarchy? That's just absurd. Atheism has no leaders, it has no heirarchy or structure. Religions are the perfect example of an oligarchy, with either living people like the catholic pope, or mythical people like jesus, dictating to their followers on how to live their lives. It's just ridiculous to say that atheism is a fascist oligarchy. As for brainwashed parrots, well, the irony of being called that by a religionist is very amusing.
What good is a two party system? You think it makes sense to have one party that is right and another that is wrong? Where is the 'reason' there? Why should we allow people to be privately educated. Isn't that brainwashing?
Look. You're retarded. Face it.
"Fascism is a radical, authoritarian nationalist political ideology.It advocates the creation of a totalitarian single-party state that seeks the mass mobilization of a nation through indoctrination, physical education, and family policy"
Why are you afraid of the word fascism? It only means uniformity, common education, and family planning. You know damn well that you fit the definition.
Every time one of you says 'religious teaching is child abuse'. Then we should have the government involved in educating our children.
Conservatism is just primitive superstition. Why do we need the conservative party? Aren't they slowing down progress?
I know you're a coward and will never stand your ground.
You do have a hierarchy. You call them "scientists", as if there is some grandiose higher order. Though, those people are not even scientists. They are commentators. Richard Dawkins makes money writing books. Some are college professors. Others are publicly funded academics.
REAL scientists are not these glamorized, reality t.v. stars that you imagine. You would be bored with them. They are just average people working mundane 9-5 jobs. You're under a terrible delusion. Learn how to think.
@knowwaie You're straying perilously close to paranoid delusions. I say again; atheism has no leaders, no heirarchy, no agenda. Richard Dawkins doesn't represent atheism, he just happens to be a well known atheist with literary success. Nobody tells us what to do, what to think,what to say, what to believe, or how to act. One of the greatest things about science is that, within reason, anyone can replicate experiments and see results for themselves. Learning to think is what made me an atheist.
There are leaders, there is a hierarchy and their goal is an entire system of government. Karl Marx is one of the most famous for this. You at least know that?
The irony is that you parroting of certain phrases proves your submission to leaders. Not to mention your use the word 'science' (which only means knowledge). When you say "we know through science" all you are really saying is "we know through knowing". Your very use of the words proves your ignorance of the subject.
@knowwaie Sigh. I can't talk sensibly to someone so desperate to believe that science is somehow evil and warped, or that atheism is some militant political wing. You just committed two of the classic indicators of someone incapable of rational debate. Firstly, you make a baseless and unsupported claim that anyone disagreeing with you is "ignorant of the subject". Secondly, you bring up Marx (Hitler will be next, right?) to try and prove a point.
That is my point exactly. There is no organization called 'science' that can be warped. It is your mind that has been warped to look at it this way. Did you even read what i said?
Seriously, i'm not playing semantics here, this is quite simple. You are misusing the word science. I don't think you even fully comprehend what it is. There are literally thousands of sciences. Every word we apply the suffix 'ology' to is a science. You are actually using the word science in the hierarchical sense
@knowwaie You absolutely are playing semantics. The word science is used to encompass all the academic pursuits of truth. That's it. There's no minds being warped, there's no agenda, there's no heirarchy. It would be tedious and unecessarily clumsy to talk about each individual scientific discipline, so instead the umbrella term science is used. There's no mystery to this, no hidden meaning, no flaw nor weakness. To think otherwise is being semantic, and deluded.
How are you missing this? Maybe i'm not saying it right.
Science is not a 'means of knowing', it is what is known. It's not the opinions of any person, it is the knowledge of the person to have those opinions. Nor is science theory. If you understood the definition of the word science you could easily see that theory does not qualify as a 'known' in this sense. It's a theory 'about' what is known.
@knowwaie Frankly, I don't care what your personal definition of the word science is. You are free to maintain that you're right, and that everyone else is wrong, but that has zero effect on the truth. Science absolutely IS a means of knowing. It is a method of discovering truths and facts. Period. If you want to argue about the meaning of a common word in some bizarre attempt to add weight to an opinion you may hold, go right ahead. I have no desire to continue this, it's pointless.
Hah, amazing. You're so retarded that you don't even realize that you are redefining the word science in the very heirachircal sense that you claimed didn't exist. The word scientia in Latin means knowledge. Nothing more.
This isn't pointless, you are just hopeless. I'm trying to help and your so deluded that you're proving my point while arguing with it.
By the way, i should be paranoid. Your thought processes are like something out of George Orwell.
@knowwaie The only time I mentioned the words heirarchical and science together was to say that science has no heirarchical leadership or structure. If you're claiming that the word science is not used to mean a method of discovery and investigation, then you stand alone. Anyway, none of this matters. What matters is that this video was shamelessly edited. I don't want to argue over semantics. And please, do me a favour and try to maintain some manners; stop saying I'm retarded. It's not nice.
Science isn't a "method of discovery" or a "department of research". It is the accumulation of knowledge acquired. Calling it anything else is false. Science does not "discover". The word discover is a verb. Who performs the action? Science?... It is the people doing the discovering, which, then becomes knowledge or science. Science is not a means of knowing it is what is known. When you use the word science you are not talking about science but the 'establishment of scientists'. Your leaders.
@knowwaie You're STILL going on about this?? Give it up. I don't agree with you. I think you're being pedantic and semantic, and I really couldn't care less about how you define the word science. You also appear stuck on this ridiculous notion that science, and presumably atheism by association, to has an heirarchy, and leaders. This is demonstrably and comprehensively wrong. I'm not sure what your motive is, but it doesn't justify dishonesty.
It's funny you mention it. That hierarchy that you call 'science' is motivated only by atheism. Why else would these people be promoting atheism?.. Think about it. This isn't complicated at all. You have a collection of college professors and commentators deliberately setting themselves in opposition to theism in the name of science... You don't see anything wrong with this picture?
I'm still going on because you're a retard and you need to learn. What's wrong with you? Use your brain.
@knowwaie Again with the name calling? Seriously? Get a grip on yourself. "These people" promote atheism for a similar reason why religionists promote their particular cult; they believe it's right. "These people" enjoy something the religionists don't, however; the support of masses of evidence, gained through the application of science. Now, you can go ahead and rant about what science means to you, and that atheism has leaders who control other atheists. I don't care. This is over.
By the way, those 'scientists' are not even scientists. Richard Dawkins is a zoologist. Why is he not working in a zoo to make an income? He writes books. Any other "scientist" you might cite are college professors or publicly funded departments.
Real scientists are not so glamorous. My father is a scientist. He works in a specific field providing a service for income. He isn't acting in this reality t.v. show you call science.
I know it will be hard for you to accept but you're being fooled.
Almost everything you say about Hovind are examples of his words taken out of context. One of his most famous phrases is "there are many kinds of dogs but none of them came from a rock". This statement is just fine within it's context. In fact, in context it is intended to be humorous.
The same with Ben Stein. His summary of an otherwise, contextually, unnecessary explanation of "lightening striking a mud puddle and creating everything". It is, in its context, a simplification. Yet you attack.
@knowwaie As for your claim that "many of you actually attempt to debate this fact", you are mistaken. Britain's history, as Dawkins says in this video, is christian. Nobody in their right mind denies that. Whether we are a christian nation now is open to debate, but that's not what Dawkins is talking about here. It seems like a such a shame that people, whatever their belief, jump into things feet first without looking to see where they're going to land.
Come on Dawkins , your getting there, you've already denied that your an atheist and you said you consider yourself an agnostic at the Oxford debate, now take one more step and your almost there !
MrMaxTruth 5 days ago
@MrMaxTruth Dawkins is an Atheist. He is Agnostic in the actual sense of the word pioneered by Thomas Huxley, meaning one can not know if any god is particularly true, and that the ENTIRE Human Race is officially Agnostic on these matters. You can be an Atheist and be an Agnostic, in fact, the two go together hand in hand. All Atheism means is that you reject the assertion and belief of God.
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@MrMaxTruth I like that statement of Dawkins. He doesn't believe in a Christian God or any other God, but doesn't reject Christian traditions as part of Western cultural identity. I'm an agnostic myself, and favor the kind of secular society we have in most European countries: "Live and let live". You find very responsible and decent people both among theists and atheists, and there are fanatics on both sides who want to force their opinions on others.
eltamin1966 2 days ago
His opinion leads to how things should be.
Zealous Christians who argue so hostilely towards atheists.
Atheists who bitterly resent any belief as if those people are inferior.
Both are venomous attitudes, understanding and cooperation is what man deserves to treat one another with.
FlintSparkedStudios 3 weeks ago
believers disgusts me, always with the misleading vids
blindedbro 1 month ago
Um, no dude. He said he's a "cultural christian" meaning he grew up around it. Geez, how about sticking to the facts man?
tunkul59 1 month ago
You can be Jewish but not follow the Jewish religion. You can also have Christian history, Richard Dawkins is talking about keeping the history alive, not the religion.
mobylover22 1 month ago
Cultural Christian is different to a Christian. Have some sense, for goodness sake.
wilkinsonld1 1 month ago
Dawkins can't possibly be a Christian, he's honest.
eventhisidistaken 2 months ago
Dawkins a "cultural Christian." Well isn'tt that just grand. A man that finds Christianity repugnant will then from the other side of his mouth say he celebrates certain aspects of that "repugnant" concept?
Dawkins, you are as mixed up as your atheism and evolution stupidities have made your numb brain cloudy!
PureAirSolutions 2 months ago
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"There is a God: How the World's Most Notorious Atheist Changed His Mind" by Anthony Flew
This book makes Richard Dawkins' book or Christopher Hirchens book look like comic books.
If Anthony Flew can see these things, why not Dawkins or why didn't Hitchens? The answer is Flew used his mind sufficiently in regards to arguments while Dawkins and Hitchens have not done so. They failed to put pieces together.
PureAirSolutions 2 months ago
What a pile of bullshit! Dawkins would love to see religion banned. He calls it child abuse for allowing kids to be brought up in Christian homes. His buddy, Hitchens, surely wanted religion banned. This guy lies at every syllable!
So, you're a Christian, now, eh Dick? Well, off to church with you. Confess Jesus Christ as your personal savior... no adding "cultural" to anything, you're either a Christian or you're not.
You're an anti-theist, period.
Redshield666 2 months ago
It does make sense if you actually know how words work...
cnmaster01 2 months ago
You fucking retard...living a Christian culture doesnt mean ure a Christian!
tanoooj 2 months ago
Why is this the only video with open comments? I mean this video quote mines and your letting people comment?
blues999 2 months ago
@blues999 I was going to make a very similar commento to yours: this guy doesn't allow comments on the most of his bullshit apologetic videos, and he allows right on this one which is based on dishonest quote mining (or in the best case on misunderstanding for a lack of intelligence).
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OP I sincerely hope you were dropped on the head as a child or your mother smoked pot whilst you were in the womb... cause you just went full retard.
MegaValhalla 3 months ago
With the same reasoning Jesus and Paul and all the apostles were Jews!
Again, the only way a religious person can make a point is by twisting truth or outright lie... which is rather ironic since all religions call themselves the truth?
VonVladimierVoltar 3 months ago
@VonVladimierVoltar Jesus was in fact a jew... Unless he decided to worship himself, but that's not in the bible.
aaronrettig 3 months ago
@aaronrettig Ofcourse, but that is the exactly point I am trying to make. Being born a jew or muslim does not need to mean you will remain one all your life.
Yet Paul and the first christians (the first 30 years anyway) were all jews who still followed the jewish customs but were no longer jews in faith.
Jesus himself (if you believe the bible) preached a very different faith to judaism (although he contradicted himself every second page).
VonVladimierVoltar 3 months ago
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Religion is dying. Atheism is inevitable.
Mirrodin82 3 months ago
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Why would I watch the rest of the interview? I don' think you are taking it out of context, you simply are... if you're not, then this is the wrong example you've used, use the bit where he says "I'm a christian". "Cultural" is the worthy disclaimer because it brings a different context and meaning to the claim. I'm sorry to inform you that a misunderstanding of the use of language isn't a strong case for the existence of god.
thetubemeister 3 months ago
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Dead-to-the-spirit deluded "God Delusion" author & blithering fool scientist goon Richard Dawkins another "leader" given 2 the profane masses is another useful idiot 4 Jesuit machinations
Jesuitical; pertaining to the Jesuits or their principals; designing; cunning; deceitful; prevaricating
The Jesuit Order completely altered the education system 2 suit their Evo-Hoax Agenda to discredit the Bible
Papacy cant have their Counter Reformation 2nd Dark Age DESPOTISM til Bible's destroyed folks
SpencerBenedict2nd 3 months ago
I find this pretty funny.. Every clip with, let's say with Richard Dawkins, uploaded from a RELIGIOUS persons account. Well.. The title is always a lie and misleading. And NONE of the atheist videos are.
So.. Who are the scumbags?
Myhattable 3 months ago 2
TROLL HARDER
dkthg 3 months ago
cul·ture
Noun:
The arts and other manifestations of human intellectual achievement regarded collectively.
Christopher7789 3 months ago
He called himself a "Cultural Christian" you moron.
Conservative Christian Logic:
watch?v=UDBYGXWMAOw
csmcmillion 3 months ago
isn't there something in your religion about not being a lying little shit bag?
Brushles83 3 months ago
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u r a retard
kleftlives 3 months ago
"cultural" Christnas as opposed to a real Christian. Yeah, that's not saying much. I could cal myself a "cultural First Nations person" because I like Native American music, but I don't, I'm too honest for that.
SassyMissCapri 3 months ago
I just flagged this video for misleading text. Everyone else should do the same.
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rogan71 4 months ago
OP - "Richard Dawkins call himself a christian!"
What Dawkins actually said - "I'm culturally the same as christians"
jesus christ dude practice a little honesty
t00thman 4 months ago 27
@t00thman nope he said that he is an ape LOL
flexpape 4 months ago
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MultiANTIRELIGION 4 months ago
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apologetico74 4 months ago
@MultiANTIRELIGION mi hermano yo no conozco una cultura en donde dios o por lo menos alguna especie de ser superior no forme parte de ella, como puedes decir tu k nacemos siendo ateo. pregunta... como puedes saber tu k el agua existe? pork te da sed y puedes saciar tu sed tomandotela.pues por eso yo creo en la existencia de dios por la necesidad innata con la cual todos nacemos de adorar y servir. por eso es k existen tanta religiones pork hay una necesidad inherente k necesitamos saciar.
apologetico74 4 months ago
@apologetico74 AMIGO TE FALTA INFORMACION PRIMERAMENTE TU LO DICES CREER ES UNA NECESIDAD,NO ES UNA VERDAD,Y TE EXPLICO PORQUE;NACEMOS Y SUFRIMOS UN GRAN TRAUMA DE LA SUBLIME DEPENDENCIA EN LA MADRE PASAMOS A UN HABITA DIFERENTE DONDE EMPIEZA A DESARROLLAR LA CONCIENCIA,PERO EL TRAUMA ESTA EN EL INCONCIENTE POR CALMAR ESA CODEPENDENCIA CREEMOS EN ALGO MUY SUPERIOR QUE ES TODO Y ESO ES DIOS PRODUCTO DE NUESTRA MENTE.A!!EL AGUA ES COMPOSICION DE DOS ELEMENTOS DE OXIGENO E HIDROGENO PUEDES HACERLA
MultiANTIRELIGION 3 months ago
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apologetico74 3 months ago
@MultiANTIRELIGION BUENO, ESA EXPLICACIÓN K TU ME ACABAS DE DAR DE LA MADRE COMO K ES MEDIA CHUECA. ESO ES SOLO UNA PRESUNCIÓN TUYA Y NO UN HECHO REAL. NO ES MAS K UN ARGUMENTO SICOLOGICO Y RECUERDAS K LA SICOLOGÍA ES OTRO TIPO DE RELIGIÓN TAMBIÉN. SABES, USTEDES DICE K NADA K PROCEDA DE FE ES REAL, SIN EMBARGO, TU CREES K TU PAREJA NO TE PEGAS LOS CUERNO, VERDAD? SIN EMBARGO, ESO ES FE PORK REALMENTE TU NO PUEDES ESTAR 100% SEGURO Y SIN EMBARGO SIGUES CON ELLA. SABES K? YO CREO EN DIOS.
apologetico74 3 months ago
Dawkins calls himself a, and I QUOTE!!! - "A (COUGHCULTURALCOUGH) CHRISTIAN". CAN YOU BELIEVE IT!? IT'S LIKE I FOUND JESUS IN A QUOTE!
skdjhfkdhfa 4 months ago
Flagged for misleading title.
elysium735 4 months ago
0/10
Tlevids 4 months ago
feeble effort
SyndicalistTimes 4 months ago
He's just simply saying that he likes to celebrate Christmas and Easter because it's a nice famly tradition. He would NEVER say that he is a believer. I am an Aheist and I like Christmas and Easter and Haloween and my own Birthday and the latter 2 are not Christian traditions but just more examples of cultural traditions.
bluffr22 4 months ago
Does this video maybe draw Dawkins' statement just a tiny bit out of context? :D
Chris197980CH 4 months ago
he said he's a cultural christian. like his culture is christian. damn christians why you be so ig'nant?
TheMikeymiddle 4 months ago
@TheMikeymiddle were ignorant? are you kidding me
elibeth121 3 months ago
As a Christian, I think its incredibly stupid, unfair, and misleading to take what Professor Dawkins was explaining out of context like that. If you want to defend your case, then why cheat?
rpier6 4 months ago 2
LOL When the man says " I'm a cultural christian simply because I was born into a christian culture" godboy hears "I'm a christian". Can we name any OTHER item that's consistently misinterpreted and taken out of context?
antagonizerr 4 months ago
Moar fake videos plox we wantz moar.
Blasthood 4 months ago
WOW SURE IS BUTCHERED VIDEO IN HERE
if you watch other dawkins video's you'll find he used to be a devoted christian.
hes talking about society and cultural influence.
KyuubiNaruto1337XD 4 months ago
I'm a cultural christian. I am also an agnostic. I have atheist friends that would descibe themselves as cultural hindus and cultural sikhs. Why the problem?
wuntbedruv 4 months ago
I want to see therest of the interview. can you post that as well?
MoonBurgle 4 months ago
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God would never manifest himself nor kill himself for his creation this is clearly the biggest lie in history. Saying God can manifest into a man is like saying a man can manifest into his painting.
God is infinite and man is finite, an infinite being cannot be finite in the same time. I laugh when i think of these foolish christian doctrines. Just imagine God being cradled by a human
marshalenam1 4 months ago
There is nothing wrong with culture, christmas was adopted from older pagan religions so whats the problem? Christians are more then happy to continue with the pagan traditions of christmas trees and sun worship as they do when they worship jesus who is a modern sungod based on pagan gods. Christians are just so ignorant as to not know anything about the roots of cultural heritage and believe they invented it.
The1VoiceOfReason 4 months ago
He called himself a Christian "culturalist" which means he understands that their is a culture around Christianity which goes beyond just believing in fairys. I am one too. I put up a Christmans tree, singe Christmas carols, etc. but I do not believe in a god. I do these things because they are part of my culture and I am ok with that.
markleyg 4 months ago 3
The title of this vid is total nonsense. He didn't say he was a believer in God but called himself culturally of a Christian background... that's what a cultural Christian is. Same as cultural Jews: they are nonbelievers who remain within the Jewish culture but aren't part of the religious faithful. There's a difference. Look it up.
katherandefy 4 months ago
Anothe christian lie there.. Are they getting desperate watching their religion/superstition fading away into oblivion, I wonder? You don't see many desperate lies, hoaxes, quote-minings and the like in non-believer videos.:)
winterstellar 4 months ago 2
Title is a bit misleading - how about "Richard Dawkins recognises he comes from a christian culture".
trewornan 4 months ago 65
@trewornan How about what he actually said? Starting at 0:07 to 0:13, he calls himself a 'Cultural Christian.' He did call himself a Christian. So what? I thought he was Christian all along, and his quest was to get rich on the stupidity of atheists. Serious. All he does is revamp a lot of atheistic arguments that were disproven long ago. And he usually debates amateurs who get flustered easily. Since he is not against Christianity so much, how is it atheists haven't figured out he's a fraud?
hakeem0436 1 week ago
@hakeem0436 Dawkins gets rich from being a Scientist. He's not a Christian, he's an Atheist, just like me. He's no fraud, although he is no longer the brilliant thinker he once was, he still has it in there, but it's been diluted by Yes-Men and self inflation. No Atheistic Arguments have ever been disproven, because the only " Atheistic Argument " is that there is no god, and since no god has ever been found, God has been disproven. Learn some real facts.
Kaishakunut 4 days ago in playlist Dawkins the vile Social Hypocrite
@BelieveandtrustJesus We have now established you can read. Now all you need to learn is how to construct you OWN sentences. With god on your side, I doubt that will ever happen.
DemonLDR 5 months ago
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hypocrit, hey just like hitler.
truth2350 5 months ago
How, by watching this video, am I to assume that he is not a Christian? If he admits that he doesn't believe on Jesus and His work on the cross then you have something to talk about. It all centers around who you think Jesus was and whether or not you believe the Gospel.
Duck4212 5 months ago
I'm guessing that 700 atheists disliked this video, because they DO want to purge society.
Phavonic 5 months ago
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@Phavonic What the fuck are you talking about?
CharlieTheFilmer 4 months ago
Richard Dawkins sucks!!!!
cyber0nemesis 5 months ago 2
@cyber0nemesis Not true.
ManDudeYeah 4 months ago
its true... the Christian teachings and its ethical code has permeated American society... even atheists' 'morality' is loosely based on the commandments
PacmanBonez 5 months ago
He did not say he was a Christian. He said he was a cultural Christian. It is a slightly modern term explaining that you can continue following some traditions, holidays for example, without believing in the religion. I , for instance, am an Atheist, but I was a Wiccan. Despite this, I have always celebrated Xmas because my family does.
skywize 5 months ago
So he wants to stop all belief in God but still sing things glorifying God? I kind of get what he is saying but why would he want to have anything to do with any kind of God. He seems to quite despises the idea of God, that what gets me.
Lovestruedefinition 5 months ago
@Lovestruedefinition Just because religion, in itself is bad, doesn't mean everything it's inspired is also bad. If everything with a religious background were to vanish, the world wouldn't be even close to what it is today. The art, the writings, music, sculptures, and the architecture. No one in the right mind would want rid of all these.
DemonLDR 5 months ago
So you are a stupid superstitious wanker. How is it working for you?
bary1234 5 months ago
You haven't taken it out of context & it's perfectly obvious what he means. If you think he's not making sense then perhaps you lack the abilty to understand rudimentary english.
gextvedde 5 months ago
Christian who made this video. Do you know your own commandments of not bearing false witness? You just sinned to freaking 24,731 people and counting.
scrap222666 5 months ago
You pick and choose what you want to hear in life just as you pick and choose what you want to believe in your faith. It would be no different to pick verses from the bible about stoning homosexuals or burning witches to make christianity sound bad or hypocritical.
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standingontruth1 5 months ago
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Dead-to-the-spirit deluded "God Delusion" author & blithering fool scientist goon Richard Dawkins another "leader" given to the profane masses is another useful idiot for Jesuit machinations-C.O.
Jesuitical: pertaining to the Jesuits or their principals; designing; cunning; deceitful; prevaricating
The Jesuit Order completely altered the education system to suit their Evo-Hoax agenda to discredit the Bible. They cant have a Satanic society of 'Do as Thou Wilt' if people still follow the Bible
SpencerBenedict2nd 5 months ago
A 21 second clip of Richard Dawkins calling himself a Christian. That's some sweet quote mining right there my dishonest friend. Had we been able to see more I'm pretty sure Professor Dawkins had more to say on the topic. I noticed that on your profile you didn't list "The Babel" as one of your favorite books. With statistics showing that up to 90% of Christians haven't even read a bible, well I'm too not surprised.
bigboy45454545 5 months ago
Most Christian holidays come from ancient occult practices LOL
Roonoon2 5 months ago
There is another really funny one RICHARD DAWKINS NOW A CHRISTIAN?
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420simpson 5 months ago
ive never seen this video before, but i already knew what richard was going to say, and also that the person who posted this video was going to be one of the many retarded stupid christians of the world.
hobbohippy2 5 months ago
This is intellectually dishonest. I am a theist and I do get annoyed with 'fellow compatriots' of mine who taint the christian faith like this, but then again it is incredibly narrow minded if Atheists conclude because of the tyranical christians in history and the over enthusiastic bible bashers in this era that they can have a firm picture in their minds of who God is. Let me tell you something; these people tell you nothing about God, they tell you a lot about their own hypocrissy however.
LightRevealsDark 5 months ago
If your a Christian, or agnostic, FINE. It is your personal choice. I find Sunday worship to be healthy for me, it is comparable to counseling, it makes me feel at ease, it makes me sit back and enjoy my family among other things. I can't deny God. And no, I do not deny science either. But to slander someone for personal beliefs is wrong. Would you call Sir Isaac Newton an idiot? He was a believer as well. Prophecy stated a big falling away, and agnostics are makeing this come true.
WDTripps 5 months ago
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Dawkins called himself a cultural christian. Be accurate when you post. Remember, a lie for Jesus is still a lie.
tapesquare 5 months ago
He means this as like how since in America, Christmas, having roots in Christianity, is celebrated like a secular holiday by pretty much everyone, and being an Atheist still celebrating it.
WebDevFTW 5 months ago
Wow, you've blown my mind! I didn't realise that Richard Dawkins, author of 'The God Delusion', believes in God! All argument is irrelevant now, it's irrevocably clear that our only solution is to get down on our knees and praise the Lord.
stickyjam1 5 months ago
@stickyjam1 PRAISE HIM!
ooshgasm 5 months ago
What he means is that he can respect some of the cultural benefits christians gave the world like love your neighbor. However there are always those who want to promote hate like the poster of this video
Xatasha6611 6 months ago
why does he say in other interviews that he wants to destroy religion? He is a hypocrite as mrurossrb said below..
Commonvoice815 6 months ago
@Commonvoice815 He never ever said he wanted to destroy religion. This snippet is taken from a BBC show called 'Have Your Say'. Look it up, and watch the whole thing. He's certainly no hypocrite. But even without watching the whole show it's easy to see what Mr Dawkins meant.
macunfraidh 6 months ago
@Commonvoice815 Because he wants to destroy religion. Only by convincing the willing through rationality though... certainly not in a communist way. He didn't say anything here about not wanting to iradicate irrationality, he simply said he wasn't one to despise christian traditions (i.e., christmas, easter) and he does not want people to forget christian history. The denial of demonstable scientific truths such as the theory of evolution (and all the facts it is built on) are what make him mad
EatCarlSagan 5 months ago
Atheist, Umadbro?
MrLas74 6 months ago
@MrLas74 LOL catholic logic, what can you do XD
missyego 6 months ago
When an atheist gets caught out, it's usually a hoaks. When a priest gets caught out, it's usually a 10 year old boy.
DemonLDR 6 months ago 36
If you can't distinguish the phrase "cultural christian" from christian, you have bigger problems to deal with than atheism
lumpheadthump 6 months ago
and in the other video he says his aim is to destroy religion.Hypocrite.
MrUrosSrb 6 months ago
oh, you're interpreting something allegorical/metaphorical as a literal statement.
so that's why you're religious (:
todoz11 6 months ago
KILL KILL KILL. That's all I want to do. Find me some terrorists so I can rip their fucking balls off and smash my boot through their faces. I will kick their faces so hard that my boot will come out through the backs of their heads. And if any A.C.L.U. attorney objects to that, I will fucking rip his motherfucking face off, guaranteed!
tossagoultar 6 months ago
when you have scraped the bottom of the barrel enough you might like to listen to what Dawkins is actualy saying, agree or disagree with him but this sort of stupidity is far short of an inteligent debate or worthy point.
phinch1234 6 months ago
HAHAHA. You theists are just fucking morons. You dont even understand what he is saying. Please just keep giving us atheists more fuel for our fire, by being ignorant and uneducated. Im seriously laughing at you fairy tale believers.
MrKGatl 6 months ago
@MrKGatl You sound mad, I guess that's something atheists do, huh? This is one theist who put this video up. Besides fuel to the fire? You make atheists look bad. I know many atheists that are kind and pretty cool. You however are just a self centered prude. Congratulations guy.
bvsandman 6 months ago
@bvsandman I am sorry to disappoint you, but I am not mad. It would be useless being mad at 85% of the population. I am more frustrated. I didnt mean for it to sound like I am talking about all theists. I was really talking about these kinds of theists, though I could have worded it better. Self centered? Not sure how you got that out of my comment, and prude is laughable. I dont know many prudish people these days, atheists or theist.
MrKGatl 6 months ago
@MrKGatl You definitely could have worded it better :P And yea self centered when you kind of attacked ALL theists in your first comment...
bvsandman 6 months ago
@bvsandman I didnt attack all theists, I already said that. I dont really care if really want to take a shot at me and call me self centered, you know nothing about me.
MrKGatl 6 months ago
@MrKGatl "HAHAHA. You theists are just fucking morons" "Please just keep giving us atheists more fuel for our fire, by being ignorant and uneducated" Really? Sounded like it, and don't cry wolf about name calling. Look what you did.
bvsandman 6 months ago
@bvsandman Im sorry I offended you so much, you must be one of the dumb theists I was talking about. Otherwise you would probably agree with me.
MrKGatl 6 months ago
@MrKGatl Offended? No more like made yourself look like a fool. Besides, how am I dumb? Because I don't agree with you? This is why no one wants an atheist president and you are treated differently. You act smug and feel you're better than everyone else. Newsflash kid, you're not.
bvsandman 6 months ago
@bvsandman I am not a kid. And the average theist should be embarrassed by the kinds of people that I was originally talking about.
MrKGatl 6 months ago
@MrKGatl I am embarrassed because of those types of theists, but words are a very powerful thing. Both sides do it, atheists tend to take a lot of scriptures out of context. Your first post did make it seem you meant ALL theists.
bvsandman 6 months ago
oh well thats that settled he is a christian ill use this as a back up against any atheist counter arguements
Imperialmatty 6 months ago
So, you cut out the part where he begins the satirical statement, and the ending so it looks as if he were a christian. Very clever, yet I'm not as dumb as you think and I know as a fact that he is a devout atheist.
zzFallens 6 months ago
Wow. i can't blame you for wanting to claim Dawkins as your own. However this is obvious rubbish.
123sambrose 6 months ago
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katrinalisa2002 6 months ago
Being a cultural christian is being a secular or irreligious person who identifies with christian culture. Like people who celebrates Christmas but doesn't believe in god for instance.
Out of all the people who could have taught me that it was a creationist.
MsSegundus 6 months ago 8
mental case
jiminiflix 6 months ago
Idiotic misrepresentation.
nakedmambo 6 months ago
I do hope @TheismBeatsAtheism reads this comment of mine. Every single video I have seen of yours so far has been laughable. You claim people are saying things in which they are not and you should be ashamed. I really hope you are just trolling.
PhilosophicalGD 6 months ago
Is the poster of these videos just a moron him/herself, or has he/she simply got veno intellectual honesty whatsoever, and a piss poor assessment of any viewer's intelligence or good taste who might be prepared to waste their time watching this drivel?
I assume is the latter , as he/she has learned to disallow comments on most of these!
Tobytrim 7 months ago
CULTURE, not belief or knowledge. The title of the video is a joke.
glitchuser4 7 months ago
ohmygod this guy's an idiot...he means that he doesn't want to change what christianity eventually brought out in our society, he's still an intelligent atheist.
canthinkverywell 7 months ago
How disappointing that you would stoop low enough to take this so horribly out of context.
itsallepidemicrodney 7 months ago
How is it taken out of context? The context is in the video. Notice they didn't isolate that single statement. Yet, it is always the atheists who take people out of context in that manner and it's always intended to defame the person.
You're also missing the point that Dawkins is confessing that we are a Christian nation. Yet, many of you actually attempt to debate this fact.
Modern atheists are some of the most mentally skewed people we have ever witnessed.
knowwaie 7 months ago
@knowwaie Yes they did isolate that single statement. Why do you think the video is only 21 seconds long? Dawkins' entire statement, including the context, can easily be found here on you tube. You're kidding yourself if you think this video hasn't been carefully edited in a cheap, shallow and meaningless attempt to make it seems that Dawkins is saying he's a christian (in the sense that you evidently interpret the word christian).
itsallepidemicrodney 7 months ago
Look, I understand that the person who posted this video 'titled it' out of context but the video still contains the context. Atheists on the other hand will actually alter the video in attempt to defame a person. Dawkins reputation is still in tact. But the same can't be said for what atheists have done to people by removing sound bites from context.
I know you're new to the subject but it was actually widely debated by atheists that our country 'was' not Christian.
knowwaie 7 months ago
@knowwaie I have a few issues with your comment. Firstly, the video most certainly does not contain the context. You need to hear what's said before and after these 21 seconds to see the context. Do you understand that? Secondly, it's absurd to claim that "atheists will actually alter the video". Absurd. You have no evidence, you're just flinging baseless accusations around. That's not a wise thing to do. Finally, how do you know I'm new to this?? You know nothing of the sort!
itsallepidemicrodney 7 months ago
I haven't even heard the entire interview and i know from this video that he is saying that he is not "anti-christian" (though i think he is). That is the context of this statement.
I have no evidence? I've seen thousands of them. The most common is Kent Hovind. Atheist are constantly the ones to remove statements from from context in order to 'defame'. The 'defamation' is the issue. Dawkins is not defamed here.
You know full well that what i'm saying is true. You're retarded.
knowwaie 7 months ago
@knowwaie You're still denying that the video is edited out of context to make it sound like Dawkins is saying he's a christian. Why is that?
Thousands of them? I'd be surprised if you can find even ten videos like that. Anyone who edits a Hovind video in order to defame him is a retard; Hovind digs his own grave with the nonsense he talks, editing him can't make his opinions any more idiotic and plain wrong. It'd almost be doing him a favour to edit him. The man is a troll.
itsallepidemicrodney 7 months ago
You're fucking retarded. Good riddance.
Your ranting over Hovind shows a personal vendetta. Which is exactly what i'm talking about. You're all hateful little bastards who should have never made it out of your mothers womb..
I'll give you just one example of what your breed of lunatics do /watch?v=fAwzpVbiBEE
knowwaie 7 months ago
@knowwaie "You're all hateful little bastards who should have never made it out of your mother's womb"? Are you familiar with the word 'hypocrisy' at all? All I've done is disagree with your opinion, I've not said anything aggresive or rude to you, and you have the nerve to then start swearing at me and calling me hateful?! I have no personal vendetta, neither did I rant. I simply expressed my opinion that Hovind is an idiot and a troll. That's not ranting. What you just did is ranting.
itsallepidemicrodney 7 months ago
You're clearly a mentally handicapped person. Good luck to you.
knowwaie 7 months ago
@knowwaie Good work on showing your true colours. You give the strong impression that you're incapable of rational thought, and resort to name calling and profanity as soon as you come up against something you can't handle. Please take note that this is not a rant, there's no profanity, there's no personal attack or accusation of mental handicap. Just a statement of what impression you're giving. So go ahead, call me names. It's your credibility that's down to almost zero.
itsallepidemicrodney 7 months ago
I'm sorry, maybe you misunderstood. There is something wrong with you. I'm not attacking you, i'm just letting you know.
knowwaie 7 months ago
I apologize my insults. Just read what i told you carefully and go take another look. Go google "hovind debunked" and pay attention. 90% of the refutation is only contextual semantics. Like one of your common rebuttals "Abiogenesis has nothing to do with evolution". Within the context of logical debate, yes it does.
When you understand the subject a little deeper you'll realize that all of your 'reasoning' against your opponents is nothing but misrepresentation of context and semantic jargon.
knowwaie 7 months ago
@knowwaie Thank you for apologizing. I accept your apology. I fear that we're never going to convince one another of anything, though, so I think this conversation is moribund. We all have our beliefs, and we often hold them very strongly, and it can be very frustrating when others don't share them, but that's just the way it is.
itsallepidemicrodney 7 months ago
Of course, above all there should be peace. Which is all we ask. Generally it is the atheist who will not be peaceful.
You must see the difference. This video is not an attack on Dawkins. If anything it is a blessing. We all show nothing but generosity toward you, we never defame your character. Yet this is exactly what atheists do. If you take the time and look at the atheists video they are nothing but ridicule and character assassination. Don't be surprised when we start getting annoyed.
knowwaie 7 months ago
By the way, we're not annoyed because we're offended. It is your authoritarian mentality. You act like dictators.
If you haven't been informed yet the vast majority of you atheist kids are brainwashed parrots. You represent a fascist oligarchy and you make propaganda videos to shut out opposition. It's getting to the point where if i google someone to hear what they have to say, i find hundreds of butchered videos intended to defame the person, for no other reason but his disagreement with you.
knowwaie 7 months ago
@knowwaie You sound a little paranoid. A fascist oligarchy? That's just absurd. Atheism has no leaders, it has no heirarchy or structure. Religions are the perfect example of an oligarchy, with either living people like the catholic pope, or mythical people like jesus, dictating to their followers on how to live their lives. It's just ridiculous to say that atheism is a fascist oligarchy. As for brainwashed parrots, well, the irony of being called that by a religionist is very amusing.
itsallepidemicrodney 7 months ago
What good is a two party system? You think it makes sense to have one party that is right and another that is wrong? Where is the 'reason' there? Why should we allow people to be privately educated. Isn't that brainwashing?
Look. You're retarded. Face it.
"Fascism is a radical, authoritarian nationalist political ideology.It advocates the creation of a totalitarian single-party state that seeks the mass mobilization of a nation through indoctrination, physical education, and family policy"
knowwaie 7 months ago
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knowwaie 7 months ago
Why are you afraid of the word fascism? It only means uniformity, common education, and family planning. You know damn well that you fit the definition.
Every time one of you says 'religious teaching is child abuse'. Then we should have the government involved in educating our children.
Conservatism is just primitive superstition. Why do we need the conservative party? Aren't they slowing down progress?
I know you're a coward and will never stand your ground.
knowwaie 7 months ago
You do have a hierarchy. You call them "scientists", as if there is some grandiose higher order. Though, those people are not even scientists. They are commentators. Richard Dawkins makes money writing books. Some are college professors. Others are publicly funded academics.
REAL scientists are not these glamorized, reality t.v. stars that you imagine. You would be bored with them. They are just average people working mundane 9-5 jobs. You're under a terrible delusion. Learn how to think.
knowwaie 7 months ago
@knowwaie You're straying perilously close to paranoid delusions. I say again; atheism has no leaders, no heirarchy, no agenda. Richard Dawkins doesn't represent atheism, he just happens to be a well known atheist with literary success. Nobody tells us what to do, what to think,what to say, what to believe, or how to act. One of the greatest things about science is that, within reason, anyone can replicate experiments and see results for themselves. Learning to think is what made me an atheist.
itsallepidemicrodney 7 months ago
There are leaders, there is a hierarchy and their goal is an entire system of government. Karl Marx is one of the most famous for this. You at least know that?
The irony is that you parroting of certain phrases proves your submission to leaders. Not to mention your use the word 'science' (which only means knowledge). When you say "we know through science" all you are really saying is "we know through knowing". Your very use of the words proves your ignorance of the subject.
knowwaie 7 months ago
@knowwaie Sigh. I can't talk sensibly to someone so desperate to believe that science is somehow evil and warped, or that atheism is some militant political wing. You just committed two of the classic indicators of someone incapable of rational debate. Firstly, you make a baseless and unsupported claim that anyone disagreeing with you is "ignorant of the subject". Secondly, you bring up Marx (Hitler will be next, right?) to try and prove a point.
itsallepidemicrodney 7 months ago
That is my point exactly. There is no organization called 'science' that can be warped. It is your mind that has been warped to look at it this way. Did you even read what i said?
Seriously, i'm not playing semantics here, this is quite simple. You are misusing the word science. I don't think you even fully comprehend what it is. There are literally thousands of sciences. Every word we apply the suffix 'ology' to is a science. You are actually using the word science in the hierarchical sense
knowwaie 7 months ago
@knowwaie You absolutely are playing semantics. The word science is used to encompass all the academic pursuits of truth. That's it. There's no minds being warped, there's no agenda, there's no heirarchy. It would be tedious and unecessarily clumsy to talk about each individual scientific discipline, so instead the umbrella term science is used. There's no mystery to this, no hidden meaning, no flaw nor weakness. To think otherwise is being semantic, and deluded.
itsallepidemicrodney 7 months ago
How are you missing this? Maybe i'm not saying it right.
Science is not a 'means of knowing', it is what is known. It's not the opinions of any person, it is the knowledge of the person to have those opinions. Nor is science theory. If you understood the definition of the word science you could easily see that theory does not qualify as a 'known' in this sense. It's a theory 'about' what is known.
Is any of this getting through to you?
knowwaie 7 months ago
@knowwaie Frankly, I don't care what your personal definition of the word science is. You are free to maintain that you're right, and that everyone else is wrong, but that has zero effect on the truth. Science absolutely IS a means of knowing. It is a method of discovering truths and facts. Period. If you want to argue about the meaning of a common word in some bizarre attempt to add weight to an opinion you may hold, go right ahead. I have no desire to continue this, it's pointless.
itsallepidemicrodney 7 months ago
Hah, amazing. You're so retarded that you don't even realize that you are redefining the word science in the very heirachircal sense that you claimed didn't exist. The word scientia in Latin means knowledge. Nothing more.
This isn't pointless, you are just hopeless. I'm trying to help and your so deluded that you're proving my point while arguing with it.
By the way, i should be paranoid. Your thought processes are like something out of George Orwell.
knowwaie 7 months ago
@knowwaie The only time I mentioned the words heirarchical and science together was to say that science has no heirarchical leadership or structure. If you're claiming that the word science is not used to mean a method of discovery and investigation, then you stand alone. Anyway, none of this matters. What matters is that this video was shamelessly edited. I don't want to argue over semantics. And please, do me a favour and try to maintain some manners; stop saying I'm retarded. It's not nice.
itsallepidemicrodney 7 months ago
Science isn't a "method of discovery" or a "department of research". It is the accumulation of knowledge acquired. Calling it anything else is false. Science does not "discover". The word discover is a verb. Who performs the action? Science?... It is the people doing the discovering, which, then becomes knowledge or science. Science is not a means of knowing it is what is known. When you use the word science you are not talking about science but the 'establishment of scientists'. Your leaders.
knowwaie 7 months ago
@knowwaie You're STILL going on about this?? Give it up. I don't agree with you. I think you're being pedantic and semantic, and I really couldn't care less about how you define the word science. You also appear stuck on this ridiculous notion that science, and presumably atheism by association, to has an heirarchy, and leaders. This is demonstrably and comprehensively wrong. I'm not sure what your motive is, but it doesn't justify dishonesty.
itsallepidemicrodney 7 months ago
It's funny you mention it. That hierarchy that you call 'science' is motivated only by atheism. Why else would these people be promoting atheism?.. Think about it. This isn't complicated at all. You have a collection of college professors and commentators deliberately setting themselves in opposition to theism in the name of science... You don't see anything wrong with this picture?
I'm still going on because you're a retard and you need to learn. What's wrong with you? Use your brain.
knowwaie 7 months ago
@knowwaie Again with the name calling? Seriously? Get a grip on yourself. "These people" promote atheism for a similar reason why religionists promote their particular cult; they believe it's right. "These people" enjoy something the religionists don't, however; the support of masses of evidence, gained through the application of science. Now, you can go ahead and rant about what science means to you, and that atheism has leaders who control other atheists. I don't care. This is over.
itsallepidemicrodney 7 months ago
By the way, those 'scientists' are not even scientists. Richard Dawkins is a zoologist. Why is he not working in a zoo to make an income? He writes books. Any other "scientist" you might cite are college professors or publicly funded departments.
Real scientists are not so glamorous. My father is a scientist. He works in a specific field providing a service for income. He isn't acting in this reality t.v. show you call science.
I know it will be hard for you to accept but you're being fooled.
knowwaie 7 months ago
Almost everything you say about Hovind are examples of his words taken out of context. One of his most famous phrases is "there are many kinds of dogs but none of them came from a rock". This statement is just fine within it's context. In fact, in context it is intended to be humorous.
The same with Ben Stein. His summary of an otherwise, contextually, unnecessary explanation of "lightening striking a mud puddle and creating everything". It is, in its context, a simplification. Yet you attack.
knowwaie 7 months ago
@knowwaie As for your claim that "many of you actually attempt to debate this fact", you are mistaken. Britain's history, as Dawkins says in this video, is christian. Nobody in their right mind denies that. Whether we are a christian nation now is open to debate, but that's not what Dawkins is talking about here. It seems like a such a shame that people, whatever their belief, jump into things feet first without looking to see where they're going to land.
itsallepidemicrodney 7 months ago
way to take it out of context. Must be a christian
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