John McCain: Nuclear Power Plant Tour

[Pelavitafan]

Those of you that can, get off the grid. Nuke-petroleum industries are corrupt from the bottom up. The stock exchanges are corrupt, and so are the fund managers that invest your money in these reactors. One accident is enough. Two is insane, Fukushima is three, four, five. The other ones are coming to a neighborhood near you.

[Allante715]

They don`t like Nuclear, They don`t like Coal, They don`t like Natural Gas.

Were is the USA supposed to get all of its energy from. Fairy Dust?

[Arminsaf2]

@Allante715 we can go get enough solar energy from Arizona (with only using 3% of the total energy output) to power the entire USA. The Midwest has been promoting the use of Wind powered fans to create energy for years. It all comes down to Money that companies won't make and the government will lose so they don't subsidize these companies. Lots to be learned dude, go do some more research on it. Oh and I actually am for off shore drilling in Alaska, As long as the safety standards are raised.

[Allante715]

@Arminsaf2

we can go get enough solar energy from Arizona (with only using 3% of the total energy output) to power the entire USA. Even if you devote the ENTIRE states land mass to solar panels, I don`t think you could produce enough energy to replace every power plant in the US. Also the capacity factor is quite low and people do not exactly like intermittent power. Wind and Solar are supplements at best, not long term solutions.

[Arminsaf2]

@Allante715 You don't think? but who constitutes your belief as empirical evidence that it can't produce enough energy to replace power plants. Maybe its this belief that you and others have that scares you away from supporting these energy sources. Dude its literally sunny in Arizona on average 350 days out of the year (guesstimate, but pretty damn close lol) Of course solar energy can replace nuclear energy. Fossil fuels can still be used, Even Nuclear power can be used still, but safety must

[Allante715]

@Arminsaf2

example: proposed Solana Generating Station in Arizona

Installed Capacity (280 MW) - Capacity Factor of 25-30 percent

Land Used: 1,900 acres

6.79 Acres need for each MW produced! All the Coal plants in the US produce 335.8 nominal GW. So you would need 2,274,650,000 acres to replace all the coal plants in the US. Total land area in Arizona is only 72,958 ,720 acres. That is not even talking about the issue of capacity factor and intermittent power!

[Arminsaf2]

@Allante715 Very nice. thank you for the use of numbers and an example, you have proved your point beautifully. I still feel there are options for energy sources (my father actually has worked on a scientific project to take vibrations from the freeway to transfer to energy, but sadly wouldnt work because of low frequencies.) Ill get back to you when I do more research and have more information to back me, but again thank you for the awesome example

[hugocasarrubias]

fuck neclear energy and fuck mc=cain can't wait to see you on your cane you old fag ...how will you feel to put a nuclear plant on your yard ...thanks you guys show the goverment who the real americans are ...

[itb222]

Even if there was a meltdown at a u.s. nuclear power plant it would'nt contaminate most of the country, which the overdramatic dumbasses make it out to be. It would only affect a 10 mile radius. I'm not saying that's good either but it's not as bad as idiots make it out to be.

[1ownjoo2]

That guy is a moron... Hes afraid of background radiation by living near one of these plants. ?  You get more radiation standing out in the sun or holding your hand over a UV light then you do living near these things.... In fact most workers inside these plants get less radiation then the average person does living there normal lives a year..

Coal power plants are in essence more radioactive then nuclear. The Emissions they put off are radioactive also. Not many people know this.

[gonyea12]

I grew up near Fermi II

Why do these people oppose the building of newer better reactors because their fear of old reactors built with 1970's technology!

[AnthraxByEmail]

liberals need to accept their just as stupid as neoconservatives....

[jmkpns]

I understand the concern, but I live near a city that has a nuclear plant been active since 77 and no problems what so ever. The controlers at 3 mile island didn't know what they were doing. Other countries have nuclear plants and I don't see the cry babies over there whining. Anytime we the US try to become energy independent,

"Oh what an evil country".

[desertfox73]

All the talk around the release of the radioactive water from Fermi 2 is complete bullshit. A water pipe burst, flooding the basement of a building. That was the water they released. It had nothing to do with the reactor. It was considered irradiated simply because it was in a Nuclear Power Plant. Technically, you could say I'm radioactive when I walk around the plant...but they let me leave the facility. Oh, and no spent fuel has ever left the site.

[desertfox73]

I'm curious as to where all the protesters in Monroe have gone? Back in the 90's there was at least twice as many people as there are in this video. What happened? Where's CRAFT? (Citizne's Resistence Against Fermi Two, cute huh?) Where are the anti-nuclear Nuns? What gives? Did you guys lose all your friends?

[dinehdawgz]

The Dineh people stand in solidarity with the Anishinaabe people in opposing nuclear power.

We will show our opposition to uranium mining when we vote this Tuesday.

Non-Indians need to learn what the concept of Hozho means to us, before it's too late.

See my vid response

[RegularFool]

Just put the Nuke plant in outter space and run wires to it. For heavens sake, must I have to tell ya how to do everything.

[dinehdawgz]

McCain wants to dump nuclear waste on NDN reservations and kick NDNS off their land to mine for coal, uranium and natural gas.

Watch McCain - Am I My Brother's Keeper and McCain Land Deals for the details of this monster's genocidal legislation.

[PRMfilms]

Fact #1 You exposed yourself to more harm standing near those high power lines than from that reactor.

Fact #2 No one has ever been injured or killed as the result of an accident. You can't say that for coal miners.

Fact #3 Today, the founder of Greenpeace endorces nuclear power and said that the "movement" made a huge mistake in the 70's.

Fact#4 Solar & Wind are NOT sustainable.

Fact#5 Switching to natural gas will only drive up the price & solve nothing

[michrezdude]

PRMFilms you are a liar. Almost half the Navajo who were forcibly relocated died as a result of radiation poisoning when they were forced to live on a nuclear waste dump. Nuclear power means more cancers for EVERYONE. You can't poisons one part of a well, you poison the whole well. Nuclear poisons dumped on the rez will affect everyone! WAKE UP!

[PRMfilms]

What are we talking about here? Toxic waste or the power plant itself?  Make up your mind. I'm all for standing up for what you believe... but facts or facts. Changing the arguement and name calling just proves how weak your arguement is.

[sk84life1010101010]

hey PRM fuck you ok get youre head outta ur ass......CHERYNOBLE KILLED AND PHYSICALLY FUCKED UP MANY PEOPLE OK SO TAKE FACT 2 and ALL OF YOURE OTHER ACTS AND STICK THEM UP YOURE FUCKING ASS

[PRMfilms]

We're talking about the US. Not some second rate- cutting corners- poor manufacturing- can't tell the truth about anything govenment. And even if you include the horrible "accident" of Cherynoble and triple the amount of killed, injured, and F up by radiation, you still will not even come close to the amount of people who have died from coal related illnesses.

Talk about pulling your head out your ass. You can't fix stupid. I don't know why I even try.

[nuclearcarnie]

I believe he was speaking of US accidents. There were a couple of fatalities with SL1 (military reactor, early 60's i think). Cherynoble was built in a pole barn, we don't build plants like these here. TMI melted down and had an explosion inside containment and it hurt exactally...zero people. It worked exactally as planned for worst case scenario. It is fine if you don't like nukes but at least argue with facts and maturity.

[desertfox73]

In case anyone was wondering, what happened at Chernobyl COULDN'T happen at Fermi. You can't take those safety systems offline. If you try the plant automatically shuts down.

[desertfox73]

In regards to Chernobyl, read about it. That was OPERATOR ACCIDENT. It had nothing to do with the safety systems. In a nutshell, the plant manager wanted to see if the plant could shut down using its own turbine power during an off-site power loss. To do this they had to take EVERY SAFETY SYSTEM OFFLINE. They broke every rule in the book. The plant manager wasn't even an expert in Nuclear Plants. He was a loyal Commie and in the Soviet system those people got the high ranking positions.

[desertfox73]

Well considering you're STILL here it seems apparent that the containment features of Fermi I WORKED! Don't cry sweetheart...Fermi is in MY backyard too.

[jessefameree]

Forgot to mention that the whole Uranium mining in upper michigan is still in exploration, they havent found anything yet. I live in northeast wisconsin near the Kewaunee Power Station and Point Beach Stations and both plants sit on a granite and limestone escarpment the granite is causing low level radiation in some areas in the form of Radon gas, proper ventilation and such will take care of it, the same is true in the UP of michigan, GRANITE!! going to a conference doesnt make you an expert..

[jessefameree]

Do these people not read the NRC reports.... Ugh and Chernoybl, ITS FREAKING RUSSIAN, not anything similar to US plants, the Ukrainian plant had no containment building like all United States reactors HAVE.... Not to mention that the proposed Yucca Mountain site sits on the edge of Area 51 and one of the missle ranges out there, hmm smells like govt property since the 1840's to me or perhaps a little more recent.Either way they have taken payments in lieu of lawsuits and are content w/status quo

[tfire67]

also, let's not forget the the whole Yucca Mountain issue goes away if we just open reprocessing plants to dramatically reduce the volume of spent nuclear fuel to be stored. That $50 BILLION that won't need to be spent, that we could use to build the plants and more nuclear plants. The whole issue is a giant political joke, which is costing all of us dearly, and just may cause a major war - energy!

[jessefameree]

couldnt have said it better myself tfire67! Additionally the French have made great strides in reenrichment of spent nuclear fuel but the same fools who are running around in pink panther suits here in the USA are doing the same uneducated rants over there forcing the politicians to mothball the program.

[PhilippeDeChampaigne]

This is great progress. The USA can use the spent nuclear fuel to make bullets and poison people and make them have deformed babies. We can raise the radiation levels of the environment. What a wonderful age of technology we live in. I love cancer too. Cancer is a great product. Thank you so much.

[jessefameree]

Looks like youve been partaking too much in the bubbly sir, you do realize that there are many naturally occuring forms of radiation in the envrionment, do you refuse x-rays at the doctor. Do you have smoke detectors in your home? know anyone who has undergone chemo therapy to treat cancer. Hmm if nuclear causes cancer then why do we use radioactive isotopes to treat it? You sir are a fool, and as such need to actually google some of what you think is true...

[tfire67]

Bullets and poison? Deformed babies? OMG! My father cured of prostrate cancer; my mother cured of breast cancer; my friend's wife cured of breast cancer! How? from the isotopes of spent nuclear fuel used for radiation TREATMENTS. Explain to cancer patients just how you think their cancers are a "product" of nuclear power? Really, if this is how dumb the anti-nuke crowd has become in the past few decades, they'd better try something else, like protesting coal power!

[tfire67]

I thought the anti nuke nuts gave these stupid arguments up years ago. Name ONE industry with a better safety record? Name ONE person who has EVER died from commercial nuclear power in this country or France? This is the most irrational and bizarre group of absolute NUTS who are damaging our environment by forcing us to burn dirty coal and continue the fantasies about solar and wind. Personally, I REFUSE to allow you to continue to cripple this country and hurt our environment. ENOUGH!

[hans1066]

U are totally right ;-). But most just don't have any idea what they are talking about

[jessefameree]

AMEN you rock!!! "Clean Coal" from the Powder River Basin, while a temporary fix to eastern coal is still dirty... and a joke to think that gassification of coal is environmentally friendly...not to mention look at how much mining has to be done to produce solar panels and such...green my rear end..the manufacturing process is far from it. The nuclear industry has such tight control on the wastes that it is better than some hospitals ICU's you cannot be in a safer work environment.

[whatnowgop]

There was a partial meltdown there. If that would have happened my entire family and myself would not be here today. Maybe you should speak for yourself and invite a nuclear plant in your backyard. He may look like a idiot, but your post is one that sounds idiotic. One nuke plant got shut down after one day and tens of billions to build because there was fraud involved with the contractors and unsafe contruction. When it comes to a buck companies like KBR could care less.

[tfire67]

I think this is worth repeating again and again and again:

NOT ONE PERSON HAS EVER DIED FROM COMMERCIAL NUCLEAR POWER IN THE UNITED STATES, EVER. 120+ nuclear sites here, operating for about 40 years, and no deaths. Well, feel free to prove me wrong. I'm not talking about forklift accidents either, I mean from radiation. Science and scientists support this all over the world. It's about time we got off our butts to get the electricity we need to run our plug-ins.

[jessefameree]

Right now you have had some people working in the nuclear industry for 30-40 plus years, hmm and they are still working there. So they arent dead and have had no abnormal health problems other than normal aging yet you continue to argue that the children 1-10 miles away are getting cancer from the plant at abnormal rates?!? What an idiot. and what does Owens Corning Fiberglass insulation have to do with Anti Nuclear power?

[whatnowgop]

Try reading what I said before you shoot off your mouth. I was referring to a partial meltdown at Fermi ourside Detroit. If that had happened my entire family would be gone and that is a fact. I hate when morons chime in on something written over two months ago. Get a life.

[nucleartrout]

you sir look like an idiot. nuclear power is one of the safest forms of energy there is. the safety features in nuclear plants at this time are so extraordinary that the chance of a disaster is almost 0. i work at these facilities and even working inside i pick up almost no radiation so how could any be leaking out. we need to build more and get rid of these coal burning plants that are destroying our atmosphere,oh and the suit you have on doesnt protect agaist radiation only contamination.