LCS 2 Ship Trials in Gulf of Mexico

[BladeIVftw]

2.16...hmm,the crew needs to have fun also.Gief a referee too:P

[dimitrieagle]

May God bless America and the NAVY...

[GyudeJohnson]

Man, a ship like that making those sharp turns! That's amazing by itself!

[digitalbaba1960]

It look's "Don't fu*k with me!"

[aloisgault]

The ship has a modular armament system. Basically swap out shipping containers depending on mission........ I am sure there are CIWS, VLS that are out of sight as part of the stealth package.

[Bmants]

The music sucks big time. 

[skeilak]

Downright spooky lack of a bow wake, on that vessel. You have to look at the sponsons, just to get the idea that it's actually moving. A remarkably minimal stern wake, as well.

Does anyone know what she's armed with. Are those odd squares behind the deck gun, vertical launch missile silos? And what are those eight squares, on the hull sides, amidships?

[RQBBAN]

anyone knows of a video of this ship in a peninsula or something? hard to get an approximate idea of how fast it goes in the open sea

[kylebohde]

maybe now we can stop the Somalian pirates from taking over boats with nothing but an ak47 and a canoe

[422eng]

what a sick looking ship!

[joesphx19]

You are now a part of the Klingon Empire, show respect or die.

[13KimChiVN]

may we have this one to test in vn, even trials, we will play trials maximize the powers, wouldn't let you down

[13KimChiVN]

may we have this one to test in vn, trials

[Czester36]

piekny okret

[dinger40]

Aluminium, fun in a fire, remember the Falklands?

[Joshlamb17]

all we got here in san diego are aircraft carries and random navy ships! i wanna see this shit!!! lol

[kathen111]

from a normal side of me: its pure ugly!

from an intelligent more fine arts part of me: its a master piece between modern and fierce!

[Modernghillie]

Looks a bit cumbersome to me... But real cool

[DrPoon]

@Modernghillie

Cumbersome? It's called stealth technology bro. It is faster than any ship before it and will look like sea trout on enemy radar. It's really amazing.

[Modernghillie]

@DrPoon I don't doubt that its fast or stealthy but the wide profile just gives it that look. I'm not necessarily talking about the actual engineering but as a visual aspect the ship looks wide and therefore cumbersome. More of and aesthetic value is what i'm talking about.

[Modernghillie]

@DrPoon I don't doubt it. It's a great tool.

[MrByington]

looks badass in person...

[CurtHowland]

Very little wake, I'm impressed.

Looks like something one would see in an anime space opera.

[tdougherty08]

it's amazing what you can do with 68.2MW of energy and an approx. 2500 ton ship

[CapStar362]

4:20 holy shit that thing can turn

[JUSTACHIPN]

Nice Toy Hauler. Wounder Whats Inside ?

[Chief0290]

It's 10 knots slower than LCS 1 in a sprint. It draws twice the water of LCS 1. Looks cool, but cool doesn't get you home. Huge flight deck, but no RAST system. Larger than LCS 1. 33% less range than LCS 1 at sprint speed. 20 year service life vice 30 for LCS 1. 4 days mission package changeout vice 1 day for LCS 1. .85 operational availability vice .95 for LCS 1. And the music sucks.

[ctuckify]

Well its a fantastic ship considering i know someone that help make all the controls in there but over all its very well designed

[Cyde]

Correct me if i'm wrong, That's  a Wave Piercing Trimaran. Like the Ady Gil/ EarthRace. Who own the patent on that design?

[daveo211]

Why is there no video of Independence going full speed like Freedom? Why is there no video showing a launch/recovery of the rescue or mission boat like on Freedom? Why nothing showing any movement of the weapons systems? Why no video showing the landing of a helicopter like on Freedom? ( larger flight deck means nothing when it can't hold as much weight as the steel deck on Freedom. Aluminum is a very bad idea. Try building with it and you'll know why.

[BR549guy]

Gee, I wonder how many solar collectors we could have built with the tax dollars we wasted on this.

I hope they were holding back on the throttle here, because it only looks like it was doing 25kts.

[ah0386]

Powered by SERIES 8000 mtu up 28knots! Then the turbines kick. BADASS!

[Relapseful]

This is my ship.

[APuzzledMind]

Now I know why it took them 3 years more.

[chinesecommunist]

Dang, it's a giant robotic bird-skull. Looks deadly as all hell.

[TheGrayRebellion]

Well i dont know about money wise. but im pretty sure it would be less money to build a new Frigate system then keep spending money on older ships. (as ships gets older its harder and harder to find the peices and amo for the ship). As for as armement the LCS class is made to go after the Swarm (real fast speed boats). and plus the mission bay is not filled with anything yet so how can it have the weapons to go after the task it is gonna be given. you need to fill the mission bay up with weapons

[Dadbo46]

You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about !

[587seachef]

AUSTAL,Mobile Al.

[Stratos2k]

It's just stupid to spend money for something like this.

[Runningblind0913]

How? Its a new class of ship to replace frigates.

[stalkingalizee]

It doesn't have any good weapons. The NLOS-LS that is supposed to go on it failed its firing trials and will likely be scrapped.

[Dadbo46]

It's a transport ship.....not a surface action ship.

[stalkingalizee]

Talk about not knowing what you are talking about, fail.

[Dadbo46]

No it's not. This is a transport/amphibous assault ship. Frigates are small, surface action war ships that were originally designed for the US Navy in the laste '70's for esscort duty.

[DaTaFiEnD7]

Well this ship is going to replace older models of ships, how is it wasting money. Everyone in the world hates the U.S. but when something bad happens to there own country who do they turn to? The US most of the time first, and these kinds of ships will only strengthen our country.

[zangalanga1]

NOBODY turns to your country to ask for help, and in most of the situations, where something bad happens, the US are involved

[spazoflondon]

this is the difference between the US and china/russia the us has the money to build prototypes of this scale

[pxiy321]

holy shit

[replicator666]

that is one hot ride!

[warlored333]

Ekranoplan no?

[SGTSnakeUSMC]

No, its more of a hydrofoil. Ekranoplans "fly" across the water using the ground effect of air between the wing and water surface. The LCS doesn't "fly" but is pretty fast as far as big ships go.

[hikaru1136911]

この世代になると、主砲の発射方式がレールガン方式になると聞い­たけど、船体を黒塗りにすれば、更にかっこよくなりそうだね。

[jdbishop2020]

Only a 130mm bofors gun

[eeboj]

@jdbishop2020. Nice to see a swedish gun onboard. Do I also spot a 3D Radar from Saab Microwave Systems?

[mariner719]

@hikaru1136911 - The ship has a 57mm gun, not a 130mm. And "cool" isn't in the paint and colors manual; USN vessels are, overall, painted grey - there are a few exceptions. Nevertheless, this is an experimental hullform and I doubt you'll see more of them after this. LCS 1 is a tried and true hull type with the same waterjet propulsion as LCS 2, and its advantages are detailed by Chief0290 below. And yes, the music sucks.

[hdsklhflk]

う〜ん、なんか無機質すぎて好きになれないな＾＾；

[dmine45]

The cargo bay on this ship is amazing... very large. Can haul a lot of equipment in a small ship. The aluminum hull will help save fuel costs. Just beef up the hull where the guns are to prevent flexing and you should be good to go.

[jdbishop2020]

Question. What are airplanes made of? Aluminum. Ever looked out the window and watched how much the wing moves?

Alot.

[dmine45]

But a gun has more immediate force. Would need to have a steel plate under the gun to prevent it from separating from the deck. Seriously, the Navy is looking into this.

[xmilspecx]

@dmine45 ac-130 105mm is mounted on an aluminum plate

[Kiraina]

Airline wings are designed to flex. in fact in the case of the 777 made to flex up to 26 feet from their resting position before failing. Rigidity is a no no for aircraft wings, rigid things tend to snap rather than bend. But aluminium can be engineered to be as rigid as you need it.

[ShinichiIzavara]

@jdbishop2020 steel construsted ships are not fully rigid either. Not at all in this size. Flexing prevent them to break up.

[ghickman07]

@jdbishop2020 airplane wings are designed that way

[the18gearJammer]

@jdbishop2020 They are made to do that. It works like a glider for a more fuel efficient flight.

[airforce145]

@jdbishop2020 aircraft wings are made to flex- if they didnt they wouldnt be able to absorb turbulence and other things and they would snap.

[progamerIII]

@jdbishop2020 ur comparing sheet metal to several inch thick plate aluminum.....

[thenickman26]

@jdbishop2020

i agree, however wings are replaceable. A hull isn't. Its that simple.

[fushheads]

@dmine45 The reason we haven't used aluminum in ship construction in a while is because of it's relatively low melting point. There have been a few ship fires where the steel hull was all that really remained. The entire aluminum superstructure melted.

[fushheads]

@dmine45 Specifically the USS Belknap and the HMS Sheffield.

[rentnation]

I didn't know that Lake Placid was so big?

Nearly as big as a Fletcher classboat. Isn't it? What will she handle like around the Horn? Maybe even the North Sea... Bangin 45 knots jumpin from wave top to wave top. All it needs is a little more wing and it will look like the worlds largest float plane. Shame about the aluminum though, and the cost overruns, and the ships sank as an excuse to build more ships...Wow! We should permanently anchor an old carrier in the Med as a base for these

[dmine45]

Huh? The builders trials were in the Gulf of Mexico. Are you confusing this with LCS-1 which was built in Wisconsin? This one is being built in Alabama.

[Bloodgod40]

It looks like a space ship!

[mduncan36]

Last week she did 44 knots for over four hours in 6-8 foot seas. Impressive. Darth Vader is going to be the first skipper.

[toslayyourself]

pertaining to sonar the wake would attribute to alot of broadband noise known as hull noise.

[BladeRunn]

Nice design lines... though the wake is way to big... looks like there'll be no water skiing behind this behemoth....

[1FOXYSPIDER]

I was stationed on a Guided Missle Frigate back in the day and thought we were fast. This baby can haul ass!!

[ybnvs2]

The music sucks.

[Swoop0690]

Attack Subs aren't as fast plus she won't be operating alone. Her anti sub/ship/air defence will give plenty of warning.

[TFOKillSwitch]

this ships are being made so they can be operating alone. she or her sister ship freedom cant come in close to shore with a battel group

[Swoop0690]

Actually they can get closer than contemparay ships. They are designed to work alone but they can and will at times be part of Fleet / Force units.

[daveo211]

Incorrect. These ships will not operate alone, rather on a network of surface ships, aircraft, and other intelligence via a computerized information sharing network. They may be out of sight, but they are far from alone.

[alan3577]

said to do 60 knots . . . is that an est. or has it went that fast ?after last months trials its been quiet, is she seaworthy ?

[TFOKillSwitch]

here is how you canb figer out her speed. ill use the exsample i used on the freedom

takes 4 seconds to move through its own length in the water.378ft long divide by 4 seconds is 95.5 ft/secocond times 60 seconds in a minute,times 60 minuts in an hr is 340,200 divide by 5280ft/mile=64.43mph wich is just over 55 knots with a lod it will most likely be a touch slower now use this on lcs2 . if you can find out how many second it takes to move threw her own lenght

[TFOKillSwitch]

she sprung a leak in one of her shafts

so she filed her builder triles . shes back in the yard

[TheFisher1971]

Nice video. What is that cool song?

[alan3577]

that looks slow.are they afraid the structure will not hold up at full power ?

[acksailor]

Slow? This ship is said to max out at 60 knots!

[daveo211]

said by who? please post a link to a reputable source with content. 45 knots is hardly 60. It may be able to hit 60mph with no headwind on a good day, but not knots, that's a pipe dream. can you imagine the stress on an aluminum hull from that? Probably why is sprung a leak during trials and had to return to dock.

[TFOKillSwitch]

dame lol

[TFOKillSwitch]

with the wake shes leaveing an attkes sub will traker her for miles away

[dsm1098]

Wake has nothing to do with sonar, sonar pings off of the cavitation/noise from the props. Waves are a result of the cavitation/water being displaced as vessels moves through the water. Wake would have an effect on radar tho'....just not sonar

[daveo211]

sonar is nothing more than a different name for radar, but in the water. Yes this ships wake has everything to do with sonar, as that is all it is is cavitation resulting from the waterjets.

[dsm1098]

First, I'm by no means a Naval guru, but allow me to respond to your reply. If sonar passes through water and echoes back to the sonar source if it hits an object, how is it that sonar will key in on the wake from a boat?....unless your referring to the white wash/foam from the wake/waves. I just figured that sonar would pass right through the wake.

[daveo211]

I think there is a misunderstanding of how sonar is used. Yes one or more frequency will be for solid objects, but there are others for movement, and a wake, although water just like the rest of the ocean, if moving will echo. And then there are active sonars, which can be detected by other vessels, and passive sonars which aren't SUPPOSED to be, but I'm sure most navies are working on it or already have it accomplished. yes i was referring to the massive amount of whitewash behind the boat.

[TFOKillSwitch]

lcs 1 is faster

[jdbishop2020]

She was only up to less than 50% of full power during the making of the video

[daveo211]

yes but beware that 50% power does not mean that at full power her speed will double. it takes a ton of power to hit high speeds, which is what the turbines are for. Also, was it 50% turbine power? or diesel power? they will ramp the diesels up to full before they even use the turbines. I worked on Freedom and this is how they drive the ships. Turbines are for speed bursts. They can run longer, but your fuel goes bye bye really fast. something like 52 gallons a minute at full throttle.

[hallmobility]

@TFOKillSwitch Thanks--I wondered about that. And for sure LCS 1 can go a lot faster in mountainous seas. Take this one down the face of an 80 foot wave at 30 knots and you'll plough the bow under. Then the wave catches you and you broach, and maybe flip. Still, I like this one better, if seaworthiness is adequate. Much stealthier, with the (apparently) smaller wake and prismatic sections. Absolutely eeeenormous flight deck for such a small ship, and helo hangar.