I think the phrase 'good horse, bad rider!' is heard at some point in every rider's life, directed at the rider, whether it's a crowd or your own self. I know I've accidentally yanked on my mare's mouth a few times, on impulse since I'd been recently training a pulling dog, and looked like I hate my horse and vice versa. Ah, as long as somebody learns and improves.... then, I suppose unintended frustration happens.
defos not cruel! but shorter stirrups when you're jumping may help :) glad you dont let the crit bring you down, it's all about continuous improvement afterall! xx
wow ur riding is amazing! and so are your horses !!! i love the irish cob? espesially wow ! dont take no crit from anyone ! u are amazing coz some of the cobs can be hard to handle but u make it look easy!!! xxxxxxx Love the foot bandages aswell!! xxxxxx :))
i love this chick love our video and who eva makes rude comment luvv delet them out of your mind because what they say isnt true !!! love your horse always wanted one
Ok. Now correct me if I'm wrong but I do believe that your friend who has been mistaken as a Clysdale is in truth a Gyspy Vanner. If that is the case then I must tell you that he is one handsome boy and I am insanely jealous. Ever since I saw them I've wanted one.
@philburgess535 I love gypsy vanners. I live in Kentucky and my Dad and I are going to drive 11 hours ONE WAY to MO to go to the Gypsy Vanner National Horse show and back another 11 hours. And, I am going to breyerfest only so I can buy the limited edition Taskin gypsy Vanner model. My rooms has 32 gypsy vanner posters, 6 paintings, 4 model horses, 7 calenders and lots of drawings and advertisements for gypsy vanners. I even got to vist Shamrock Farms and ride a world class gypsy vanner!
I love this video! Your a great rider and you have lovely Horses!! I have a Clydesdale X Irish Cob hes my first ever Pony & he's 6 years old (I'm 11) and he can be cheeky too! But he can also pop a jump. Let the haters hate, you and your Horses are great together. Don't let anyone tell you different :D xxxx
if your using a crop and your horse and he seems to stop or do the opposite of wat ur asking, stop using it he feels trapped wen u use it and if u stop using i he will loosin up
@HorseDarlin horse psychology is not as simple as that - horses ignore the whip for many reasons - insensitivity, lack of respect, fear, confusion - in this case, the whip was simply not enough of an encourage to make him consider going off a drop which he really didn't want to do. He doesn't feel trapped - he's just dislikes drops more than he cares about a tap with a whip!
lol i was thinking a Clydesdale a coloured one hhmmm love how someone brings you down who dosent even know you dont get black and white Clydesdales *facepalm* plus why do poeple thing heavy horses cant jump i have a shire cross that will jump most things you put infront of him and he does it with style! Lovely horse love his leg wraps makes his feathers look class
@strawbericalpony No, but it's pointless. A good rider should be able to ride without the aid of pain-inflicting tools. But I love the body language you share with your horses on the ground. It's beautiful.
@Cottontail6969 I completely agree - but crops don't inflict pain - far less painful that a kick in the ribs or a "carrot" stick around the shoulders... I don't agree that they shouldn't be used at all.
@philburgess535 I kindly disagree with you that much, Crops do inflict pain, otherwise they wouldn't be very effective... Their ribs are very strong ad a carrot stick should never be used to whip a horse, they are an extension of a persons arm.
@Cottontail6969 I'm sorry but a whip is just as much an extension of your arm - I've seen PP use carrot sticks (and NH halter clips) more aggressively than any whip. Crops act by giving a secondary cue and making a sharp noise which should encourage the horse forward. I''ve seen many broken/bruised ribs from kicks - but never an injury from a jumping crop in these circs.
@philburgess535 In natural horsemanship a carrot stick is never used to whip the hors. I think you might be thinking of a lunge-whip. The crop inflicts sharp pain. I'm just saying people should be able to ride without causing pain to the horse,
@Cottontail6969 I respectfully disagree - scientifically, crops do NOT cause pain. I'm not thinking of a lunge whip - I am well aware of the bollocks the Parellis (and some other NH "gods") teach - and how they practice - and I have seen videos, now removed from yt, of them aggressively battering horses with "carrot sticks" - a whip by any other name would strike a hard. There is massive difference between hitting a horse with a flat crop and with a rope thong, w/e you call it.
@philburgess535 Yes, crops do hurt horses. Otherwise they would not work effectively, yes they give off noise, but a horse won't kick out at a noise. I do not and would never agree with anyone whipping a horse with a carrot stick, as they should never be used so. A lunge whip and a crop are quite different, yes. My point is that no one should have to rely on the use of aids such as whips and spurs. w/e.
@Cottontail6969 No, I'm sorry, but that just isn't how it works - if you slap your leg with a crop as you would tap a horse up? No - it makes a flicky noise, but it doesn't hurt - unless you take your jodhs off and sit in cold water! It just doesn't hurt - the noise and sensation (not pain - just feeling) encourages the horse forward but startlement. Otherwise how would a crop work through and exercise sheet - which more than dissipates the energy of the slap...
@philburgess535 My friend accidentally smacked in the face yesterday, and yes, it hurt very bad. Most people, even trying, will not hit themselves as hard as they would a horse. There is a difference between hitting and tapping though haha.
@Cottontail6969 jesus, if you whack yourself in the face it would hurt - just as it would hurt a horse to be whacked in the face. It's not the same as "tapping a horse up" on the flank (and yes, the correct term is tapping up, not "hitting") - horses are thicker skinned than humans, with a good layer of hair to dissipate the energy - it is the same as hitting yourself on the thigh while fully clothed. Try it - just as you would tap up a horse - and then tell me that it hurts...
@philburgess535 Lol yes it really did hurt lmao. Horses don't have ery thick skin, thats why fly and other bug bites bother them. Not sure where you are from, but our terms ust be different then. Still, when you get whipped in the thigh it hurtss..
@Cottontail6969 I disagree - fly bites are totally different - they penetrate the skin and provoke an immune response - completely incomparablle to a non-invasive stimulus. I'm speaking science here - the pain receptors and processes involed are different. Let me put it a different way - if whips inflict pain, how come I can wave them in the face of my horses while they're loose in the field and they don't react with fear or even interest?
@Cottontail6969 As for spurs - spurs are a more delicate aid than non-spurred leg aid - spurs should never be used to infict pain (used incorrectly they can) but used sensitively to apply a very specific, accurate aid to make the desired response clear to the horse - hence their use at GP dressage. I'm not trying to argue with you - I want to make you understand that your logic is flawed- if you choose to post your uninformed opinions on people's videos, you should expect this.
@philburgess535 Yes I totally agree with you. Sadly, way too many people use them abusively, like you said with carrot sticks. My logic isn't that their necessarily cruel, just that people shouldn't have to rely on aids. Some people have to, nbd.
@Cottontail6969 no, you're not following me - there is no way you can achieve GP accuracy without spurs - you just can't get the precision - even the greatest riders in the world use them - the SRS, the CN, etc. Eventers use spurs xc for safety - not because they need them to make the horse jump - because they need them to guarentee the horse won't put one in, get deep and end up in a rotational fall, breaking it and their necks. Relying on them isn't shameful - it's sensible.
@Cottontail6969 unless, of course, all you want to do is plod around the bridleways / fields - in which case, you're right, nobody should need to rely on whips, spurs or strong bits...
@Cottontail6969 hack about? Or GP dr / eventing? 'cos I can do the former quite happily without spurs / whips / bridles / tack at all *rolleyes* I value my horses too much to risk their necks out xc without back up - same as most eventers, and I aspire to the levels of dr where spurs are essential...
@Cottontail6969 well that I can't disagree with - I love the buzz of riding xc, and I love schooling for dressage, playing horseball, etc - but nothing beats the pleasure of a really good hack. Are you in the States or Europe? You might enjoy Le Trec - it's one of my favourite sports, there just isn't a lot of it goes on round here.
@philburgess535 I'm in the states. Only thing I really do is hack around and jump with my friends, have lessons and compete in IEA shows, very rarely but sometimes I do regular shows.
@philburgess535 Yes, crops do hurt horses. Otherwise they would not work effectively, yes they give off noise, but a horse won't kick out at a noise. I do not and would never agree with anyone whipping a horse with a carrot stick, as they should never be used so. A lunge whip and a crop are quite different, yes. My point is that no one should have to rely on the use of aids such as whips and spurs. w/e.
love this video :) get so pissed off when people say cobs cant jump. there still a horse just coss there stocky and have feathers how the hell does that mean they cant?? erhhhhh... . -.-
@1nikomi hey there's enough aggro on this video without other people kicking off with each other / my friends - spesh when I can't see all the replies! Chill out, chaps...
@1nikomi I can't see all the replies so I don't know what you were saying - sorry - but the person you seem to be bickering with atm is a friend of mine so I don't know if there's some misunderstanding or confusion - but either way, it's no big deal ;)
Firstly its not a Clydesdale its a gypsy cob....just wondering though why the hell do you have boots on it ???? why not ask your smith to shoe it correctly if he is hitting.
@shazheeley you really should read.. "3. No, he's NOT a clydesdale, the caption refers to comment on an older video, from some idiot who thought he was. So no more comments saying "that's not a clydesdale". I KNOW." and what do boots jave to do with shoes...?
ur such a dumb ass. u mother fucker... i would never do anything to my horses like that... bitch!!!!!! i hate stupid riders like you... and i have been to alot of horse shows and never have seen such a cruel bitch! i am calling the police!!!!!!!!!!!!
@6700magic well you're a bit of a retard aren't you? i bet you can't even ride! hahaha! and if you do i pity the horses you do ride. this is a very capable rider with fantastically well taken care of horses....
@nataliewilsonx "no" is a negative response to a question or request. "know" is the word you were looking for. Indeed, my style is less elegant than professional dressage riders, less relaxed than cowboys, less forceful than pro eventers, more effective than most novices, more secure than most showjumpers. Yes there's a big difference between my riding in this video and other people's (note the apostrophe - denoting possession) videos.
@philburgess535 so this is about spelling? well am talking about your shit riding and the way you are riding not how I spell, atleast I can accept I spelt it wrong you can't accept your shit at riding and obviously the way you are treating your horse. So get a grip and get some riding lessons! and add rather make a wee spelling mistake than treating a horse the way you are! so on your bike idiot!
@nataliewilsonx sorry, but I completely disagree - if you have the audacity to criticise my riding, I'm sure as hell going to pull you up on your inability to formulate a coherent sentence. My horses are exceptionally well schooled - we compete successfully, they are well-mannered for novices and experienced riders, and since I am solely responsible for their training, I think you must be mistaken about my inability to ride ;)
@philburgess535 typical horse person think their great at everything to do with horses, but not by the look of this video you seem clueless :) and if you didn't want bad comments why even put the title as I'm cruel and my horses hate me xD, and I can tell by the rest of your comments you like a good argument so away take your pish somewere else ;) 100/100 for spelling this time? thought so :p
@nataliewilsonx your spelling may be acceptable in this instance, but your lack of appreciation for sarcasm is astounding. I don't, as it happens, think I'm "great at everything" - I think previous comments have made that clear, however I object to jumped up teenagers insulting me on youtube, when they neither know what they are talking about, nor understand my methods or techniques. I will not back down from my own video - it is you who is out of line.
@philburgess535 no am not out of line just giving my opinion :D well I suppose your an adult? start acting like one and don't argue with a 'teenager' in that case :) back down from your own video I ok you away grow up and I will walk away like the mature one. Away sort yourself and your attitude out big 'yin'! tara :D <3
@nataliewilsonx No, you're not "just giving your opinion" - you are being rude. Yes I am an adult, but that is all the more reason to tell you off for your lack of manners - why do you think this country is going to the dogs? Simply because adults are not being responsible enough to tell their juniors when to mind their manners and act their age. I recommend you re-think your own attitude. There has been nothing "mature" about your conduct on this page.
@philburgess535 please do not try say my parents are not responsible. And since I am only young why comment on my spelling you dont no if I have problems which I dont :) haha, when you hold open a door for example for an adult they walk straight past you and imagine we done that it would be like aww see teenagers there this and their that this is my opinion so don't try tell me its not you silly woman just cause you can spell perfect and think everyone else has to be up top notch
@nataliewilsonx I'm sorry your grasp of syntax and grammar makes this post almost unreadable. I couldn't care less whether you have problems or not - you can still learn to speak the Queen's English properly and display manners. Perhaps you could even read a newspaper above the "quality" of the Mail and realise your grasp of the political situation is limited. DC wasn't wrong when he spoke of Broken Britain and the need for a Big Society. But I digress...
@philburgess535 NO! this country is going down to the dogs not because of teenagers idiot! its down to the government we don't send our men away to fight for us! I also have to pay tax to the scum that dont work cause they are to lazy to work! thats how our country is going down not the fucking lack of manners for teenagers its the adults so I think you want to go back and think what you are saying young WOMAN! grow the hell up don't put stupid titles up on youtube if you cant handle crit!
@nataliewilsonx Don't shout so, it only lessens your position and makes you seem more immature. I am at liberty to name my videos how I please - and I will respond to criticism as I always do - constructive comments from knowledgable sources are appreciated - ranting and shouting from children is not really my problem. I could, at any point have blocked you - but I hope at some point this may become educational for you.
im coming over there and stealing your horses......... for unmanageable cuteness.........oh and the TORTURE YOU ARE PUTTING THEM THROUGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Seriously what are these people on about? If they didnt wanna jump they wouldn't, both of these horses are unreal and you ride them so well so ignore themm ;) Hehehe aw so much love for the rears :D xxx
HAHAHA J is obviously abused ;) but it's ok I know where they live so I'll come save him, the poor "clydesdale" thats forced to jump. I also think you couldnt ride a rocking horse :P (and for any one thats had a sense of humor fail I'm joking phill has ridden my boy).
@froggersnrobster haha this thread makes me laugh every day! yes my stunning performance of medium trot on rob was really quite something, wasn't it :P *fail* If I recall though you forced my poor clydie to jump too, so really, you're no better than me! =D x
For everyone's information... Not wearing a hat whilst riding is NOT against the law if you're over the age of 14. If you are under the age of 14 and are riding on public roads, you do have to. What difference does it make to you how Phil looks after her horses (which she does very well!) or whether she rides with a hat or not. Her life, her horses. Butt out and let her get on with it.
@BlackberryMay cheers - it's the idea that a tap with a whip is cruelty which is currently amusing me most -- that must make jockeys sadists or something :p Ahhh the insane of youtube - keep me amused during the quiet winter months!
@onedreamshowteam tragic, isn't it? Well fed, kept in good condition, fit, happy horses who get plenty of turnout and positively love their work. I mean, it's disgusting that I keep my horses so nicely, isn't it?
@philburgess535 your not cool when you do saracsm... Yea... you left out. clysedale shouldnt be jumping, your a bad rider, you dont take care of them, and you just shouldnt be handiling such beutiful animals.
@onedreamshowteam he's patently obviously not a clyde - though clydes can jump - clearly you don't know the first thing about horses. They're extremely well looked after - heck my vet was out last week for vaccinations and she didn't have anything to say! As for my riding skill - really none of your business! (ps you're not cool when you don't know what you're talking about - "your" is possessive, "you're" is a contraction of "you are"!)
OMFG GET A HELMET ON!!!!! if your horses are misbehaving then the last thing you should do is whip them!! Please for the love of god let your horses go to a happy home!
@Showstarx They are happy - have you any idea what you're talking about? My horses rarely misbehave and I respond in the manner most appropriate when they do - and sometimes, that does involve a sharp smack. I think you'll find there are few horsemen (other than the NH brigade) who would do otherwise. *rollseyes* Ultimately, it's my choice whether to wear a hat or not - it really isn't any of your business.
@philburgess535 Your just a fail of a horse riderLOL. You just admitted you smack them cruelty to animals much! and ive reported you to animalhealthsociety. And if you want to get your head smashed in because you havent got a hat on then thts fine cos your horses will have to go to a better home.
@Showstarx Smacking a horse with a crop is not cruel - you are aware that racehorses get smacked >20 times PER RACE, eventers, showjumpers, dressage riders all carry whips of sorts, Parelli NH advocate smacking the horse round the jaw with a METAL CLIP to move it back (and that is cruel, imho). I'm sure whichever society that is will be wildly concerned that mine get treated as every other horse in the country. And since you're dim, I'll elaborate - that means they're treated WELL.
@onedreamshowteam I'd love to hear any response you get from any welfare organisation. I'm sure they will be delighted to have their time wasted by this =)
@Showstarx naww aren't you lovely? =) Sorry to report that years after this video was filmed, I'm still in possession of my faculties and my horses... I'm sure you'll be very disappointed.
learn how to jump!sloppy seat and you dont have a steady leg you dont deserve to own a horse. and for goodnes sades child wear a freakin helmet!! it could cost you your life!
@cassyk101165 Firstly, I'm an adult and have been for many years - please mind your own business. I own many horses, whilst my riding may not be pretty, it is effective and I break and school my own and others - very successfully. I keep my horses is good condition, so I fail to see that any of this is anything to do with anyone else.
Why the hell don't you wear a hat?!" i am sorry but for gods sake do you want to die? not matter how good you think you are at riding a hat is essential and it's also the LAW
OMG you should be wearing a riding helmet while riding especially if u horses do tht! and why do u treat them like tht! u r actual;ly quite a gd rider! I can't believe u put this on youtube for the whols world do see it's nuthing to be proud of!!
@JOLUVSBERRY4EVAXX My horses are extremely well behaved, thanks. I don't mistreat them, there is nothing in this video which is not defensible - the title is sarcastic - something I fear is lost on a lot of youtubers. I don't see it is anyone else's business whether I chose to ride with or without a hat
@philburgess535 if it was a joke why put it as a title! and say those comments at the bottom of the videos and picts?? and i didn't say u treat your horses badly I just said put a head on especially if your horses are likely to play up!
@JOLUVSBERRY4EVAXX Having it as the title was the joke - read the description?! These are all things that (very unknowledgeable teenagers) have said in the past to me - they were wrong, as anyone who knows my horses would attest. Is it that hard to understand?! I do have a head on ;)
@JOLUVSBERRY4EVAXX I'm totally calm - you're the one who seems agitated? Why woud you not read the description before having a go at someone? It is generally more sensible to be aware of all of the facts before jumping in all guns blazing. It seems perfectly like a joke to the British sense of humour - it's customary to be aware of cultural differences in such matters before jumping to conculsions.
I love this video, and I love your sense of humor.(: We seem to be the same with our horses.
I think we'd get along.
Also, thanks for making me smile, haha.(: <3
Kodiakwolfe 21 hours ago
I think the phrase 'good horse, bad rider!' is heard at some point in every rider's life, directed at the rider, whether it's a crowd or your own self. I know I've accidentally yanked on my mare's mouth a few times, on impulse since I'd been recently training a pulling dog, and looked like I hate my horse and vice versa. Ah, as long as somebody learns and improves.... then, I suppose unintended frustration happens.
EquitationHiatus 2 days ago
wear a hat (its better to be safe than sorry) and gorgous horses btw
xxsarahxxmilesxx 3 days ago
wow your such a bitch to ur horses they deserve better, you should have a heart :)
sugarblossem 4 days ago
@sugarblossem Agreed :) Finally someone who sees it like i do :)
barrelracerCrAzY 3 days ago
beautiful horseys !!
racheleffluvinponys 5 days ago
defos not cruel! but shorter stirrups when you're jumping may help :) glad you dont let the crit bring you down, it's all about continuous improvement afterall! xx
LeezaHolmes 1 week ago
Those are beautiful horses, you are so lucky to have them and you seem to have a really good connection with them
redhotthorse 1 week ago
0:59 the dog is racing the horse! hahaha
lizzybelle11 1 week ago
P.s i love your irish cobs mane, its beautiful ;D
EquestrianExtreme 1 week ago
Your horses are beautiful, ignore anyone who says your a bad rider/cruel, your not.
EquestrianExtreme 1 week ago
@philburgess535 absolutly beautiful horses. Who cares what you use them for ? (:
sierraeagleson 1 week ago
Your Clydesdale is WOW beautiful <33
XoJumpBigoX 2 weeks ago
wow ur riding is amazing! and so are your horses !!! i love the irish cob? espesially wow ! dont take no crit from anyone ! u are amazing coz some of the cobs can be hard to handle but u make it look easy!!! xxxxxxx Love the foot bandages aswell!! xxxxxx :))
MaRsHmAlLoWkILlEr098 2 weeks ago
0:15 is that a highland?xx
LoveRoughLuck 2 weeks ago
@LoveRoughLuck indeed he is ;) x
philburgess535 2 weeks ago
@LoveRoughLuck aww! I love highlands :) x
LoveRoughLuck 2 weeks ago
aww soooo cute!!! hehe loving the joke lol x
HannahAndGal 2 weeks ago
i love this chick love our video and who eva makes rude comment luvv delet them out of your mind because what they say isnt true !!! love your horse always wanted one
nat9810 2 weeks ago
Ok. Now correct me if I'm wrong but I do believe that your friend who has been mistaken as a Clysdale is in truth a Gyspy Vanner. If that is the case then I must tell you that he is one handsome boy and I am insanely jealous. Ever since I saw them I've wanted one.
Reggie8795 2 weeks ago
@Reggie8795 he's an irish cob, which is similar to vanners in the states, yes. they're lovely horses, hope you get your own one day!
philburgess535 2 weeks ago
@philburgess535 I love gypsy vanners. I live in Kentucky and my Dad and I are going to drive 11 hours ONE WAY to MO to go to the Gypsy Vanner National Horse show and back another 11 hours. And, I am going to breyerfest only so I can buy the limited edition Taskin gypsy Vanner model. My rooms has 32 gypsy vanner posters, 6 paintings, 4 model horses, 7 calenders and lots of drawings and advertisements for gypsy vanners. I even got to vist Shamrock Farms and ride a world class gypsy vanner!
cheweyischewey 2 weeks ago
Beautiful horses! ::D
Katha2432006 2 weeks ago
your so cruel
idgaf3456 2 weeks ago
I love this video! Your a great rider and you have lovely Horses!! I have a Clydesdale X Irish Cob hes my first ever Pony & he's 6 years old (I'm 11) and he can be cheeky too! But he can also pop a jump. Let the haters hate, you and your Horses are great together. Don't let anyone tell you different :D xxxx
mollyandbazforever 2 weeks ago
if your using a crop and your horse and he seems to stop or do the opposite of wat ur asking, stop using it he feels trapped wen u use it and if u stop using i he will loosin up
HorseDarlin 2 weeks ago
@HorseDarlin horse psychology is not as simple as that - horses ignore the whip for many reasons - insensitivity, lack of respect, fear, confusion - in this case, the whip was simply not enough of an encourage to make him consider going off a drop which he really didn't want to do. He doesn't feel trapped - he's just dislikes drops more than he cares about a tap with a whip!
philburgess535 2 weeks ago
u idiot its a gypsie!!! shires are bigger!!!and dontusualy come in that color!!!
HorseDarlin 2 weeks ago
wow...I WANT YOUR TOBIANO SHIRE!!!!!! your so lucky to own him!!! he is amazing!! XD
19ArtisticWolf97 2 weeks ago
lol i was thinking a Clydesdale a coloured one hhmmm love how someone brings you down who dosent even know you dont get black and white Clydesdales *facepalm* plus why do poeple thing heavy horses cant jump i have a shire cross that will jump most things you put infront of him and he does it with style! Lovely horse love his leg wraps makes his feathers look class
dragoon650 3 weeks ago
That gypsy can jump!
anniehorselover 3 weeks ago
wow your big guy can sure jump!!!!!!!!!!!!
FluffyUnicorns7 3 weeks ago
You are a good rider and your horse is beautiful, but no one should ever have to use a whip on a horse :\
Cottontail6969 3 weeks ago
@Cottontail6969 I think you'll find the majority of riders use a whip to back up their leg aids - are we all cruel, then?
strawbericalpony 3 weeks ago
@strawbericalpony No, but it's pointless. A good rider should be able to ride without the aid of pain-inflicting tools. But I love the body language you share with your horses on the ground. It's beautiful.
Cottontail6969 3 weeks ago
@Cottontail6969 I completely agree - but crops don't inflict pain - far less painful that a kick in the ribs or a "carrot" stick around the shoulders... I don't agree that they shouldn't be used at all.
philburgess535 3 weeks ago
@philburgess535 I kindly disagree with you that much, Crops do inflict pain, otherwise they wouldn't be very effective... Their ribs are very strong ad a carrot stick should never be used to whip a horse, they are an extension of a persons arm.
Cottontail6969 2 weeks ago
@Cottontail6969 I'm sorry but a whip is just as much an extension of your arm - I've seen PP use carrot sticks (and NH halter clips) more aggressively than any whip. Crops act by giving a secondary cue and making a sharp noise which should encourage the horse forward. I''ve seen many broken/bruised ribs from kicks - but never an injury from a jumping crop in these circs.
philburgess535 2 weeks ago
@philburgess535 In natural horsemanship a carrot stick is never used to whip the hors. I think you might be thinking of a lunge-whip. The crop inflicts sharp pain. I'm just saying people should be able to ride without causing pain to the horse,
Cottontail6969 2 weeks ago
@Cottontail6969 I respectfully disagree - scientifically, crops do NOT cause pain. I'm not thinking of a lunge whip - I am well aware of the bollocks the Parellis (and some other NH "gods") teach - and how they practice - and I have seen videos, now removed from yt, of them aggressively battering horses with "carrot sticks" - a whip by any other name would strike a hard. There is massive difference between hitting a horse with a flat crop and with a rope thong, w/e you call it.
philburgess535 2 weeks ago
@philburgess535 Yes, crops do hurt horses. Otherwise they would not work effectively, yes they give off noise, but a horse won't kick out at a noise. I do not and would never agree with anyone whipping a horse with a carrot stick, as they should never be used so. A lunge whip and a crop are quite different, yes. My point is that no one should have to rely on the use of aids such as whips and spurs. w/e.
Cottontail6969 2 weeks ago
@Cottontail6969 No, I'm sorry, but that just isn't how it works - if you slap your leg with a crop as you would tap a horse up? No - it makes a flicky noise, but it doesn't hurt - unless you take your jodhs off and sit in cold water! It just doesn't hurt - the noise and sensation (not pain - just feeling) encourages the horse forward but startlement. Otherwise how would a crop work through and exercise sheet - which more than dissipates the energy of the slap...
philburgess535 2 weeks ago
@philburgess535 My friend accidentally smacked in the face yesterday, and yes, it hurt very bad. Most people, even trying, will not hit themselves as hard as they would a horse. There is a difference between hitting and tapping though haha.
Cottontail6969 2 weeks ago
@Cottontail6969 jesus, if you whack yourself in the face it would hurt - just as it would hurt a horse to be whacked in the face. It's not the same as "tapping a horse up" on the flank (and yes, the correct term is tapping up, not "hitting") - horses are thicker skinned than humans, with a good layer of hair to dissipate the energy - it is the same as hitting yourself on the thigh while fully clothed. Try it - just as you would tap up a horse - and then tell me that it hurts...
philburgess535 2 weeks ago
@philburgess535 Lol yes it really did hurt lmao. Horses don't have ery thick skin, thats why fly and other bug bites bother them. Not sure where you are from, but our terms ust be different then. Still, when you get whipped in the thigh it hurtss..
Cottontail6969 2 weeks ago
@Cottontail6969 I disagree - fly bites are totally different - they penetrate the skin and provoke an immune response - completely incomparablle to a non-invasive stimulus. I'm speaking science here - the pain receptors and processes involed are different. Let me put it a different way - if whips inflict pain, how come I can wave them in the face of my horses while they're loose in the field and they don't react with fear or even interest?
philburgess535 2 weeks ago
@Cottontail6969 As for spurs - spurs are a more delicate aid than non-spurred leg aid - spurs should never be used to infict pain (used incorrectly they can) but used sensitively to apply a very specific, accurate aid to make the desired response clear to the horse - hence their use at GP dressage. I'm not trying to argue with you - I want to make you understand that your logic is flawed- if you choose to post your uninformed opinions on people's videos, you should expect this.
philburgess535 2 weeks ago
@philburgess535 Yes I totally agree with you. Sadly, way too many people use them abusively, like you said with carrot sticks. My logic isn't that their necessarily cruel, just that people shouldn't have to rely on aids. Some people have to, nbd.
Cottontail6969 2 weeks ago
@Cottontail6969 no, you're not following me - there is no way you can achieve GP accuracy without spurs - you just can't get the precision - even the greatest riders in the world use them - the SRS, the CN, etc. Eventers use spurs xc for safety - not because they need them to make the horse jump - because they need them to guarentee the horse won't put one in, get deep and end up in a rotational fall, breaking it and their necks. Relying on them isn't shameful - it's sensible.
philburgess535 2 weeks ago
@Cottontail6969 unless, of course, all you want to do is plod around the bridleways / fields - in which case, you're right, nobody should need to rely on whips, spurs or strong bits...
philburgess535 2 weeks ago
@philburgess535 Honestly, truly good riding is being able to do that with a horse that trusts you, imo.
Cottontail6969 2 weeks ago
@Cottontail6969 hack about? Or GP dr / eventing? 'cos I can do the former quite happily without spurs / whips / bridles / tack at all *rolleyes* I value my horses too much to risk their necks out xc without back up - same as most eventers, and I aspire to the levels of dr where spurs are essential...
philburgess535 2 weeks ago
@philburgess535 Mhm, yeah. I know what you mean, but I love just hacking about wayyy better, because I don't have to be perfect for anyone<3
Cottontail6969 2 weeks ago
@Cottontail6969 well that I can't disagree with - I love the buzz of riding xc, and I love schooling for dressage, playing horseball, etc - but nothing beats the pleasure of a really good hack. Are you in the States or Europe? You might enjoy Le Trec - it's one of my favourite sports, there just isn't a lot of it goes on round here.
philburgess535 2 weeks ago
@philburgess535 I'm in the states. Only thing I really do is hack around and jump with my friends, have lessons and compete in IEA shows, very rarely but sometimes I do regular shows.
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@philburgess535 Yes, crops do hurt horses. Otherwise they would not work effectively, yes they give off noise, but a horse won't kick out at a noise. I do not and would never agree with anyone whipping a horse with a carrot stick, as they should never be used so. A lunge whip and a crop are quite different, yes. My point is that no one should have to rely on the use of aids such as whips and spurs. w/e.
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YoungWildAndFree02 3 weeks ago
Point in wearing a back protector, but no hat?
christina247HH 3 weeks ago
@christina247HH I only wear a back protector (and hat) for xc and sometiimes for backing... At no point do I have a bp but no hat on.
philburgess535 3 weeks ago
Great rider! Like this! - Pressed like constantly- xD
XxSammie1995xX 3 weeks ago
You're a really good rider =) Loved this video. =D
allmylovensl 3 weeks ago
awesome you can get that horse to move like that xD
Appaloosalicious1 3 weeks ago
@Appaloosalicious1 Your username made me lol =) (pointless comment, but y'know, it's a cool username...)
philburgess535 3 weeks ago
@philburgess535 Thank you XD
Appaloosalicious1 3 weeks ago
love this video :) get so pissed off when people say cobs cant jump. there still a horse just coss there stocky and have feathers how the hell does that mean they cant?? erhhhhh... . -.-
alexxxdrummond 3 weeks ago
not a good rider i agree the person is a retard
kellyfs2710 3 weeks ago
@kellyfs2710 who me? cheers, you're so kind =)
philburgess535 3 weeks ago
What type of horse is he?
finzerpup101 3 weeks ago
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finzerpup101 3 weeks ago
beautiful horses! especially the coloured:')xx
AliceEllenSmith 3 weeks ago
@strawbericalpony than you shouldve figured that part out by now ;)
1nikomi 4 weeks ago
@1nikomi hey there's enough aggro on this video without other people kicking off with each other / my friends - spesh when I can't see all the replies! Chill out, chaps...
philburgess535 4 weeks ago
@philburgess535 ok, dont get the point of you saying this, as i was defending you. oh, well, it just shows how niaeve some people are ;)
1nikomi 4 weeks ago
@1nikomi I can't see all the replies so I don't know what you were saying - sorry - but the person you seem to be bickering with atm is a friend of mine so I don't know if there's some misunderstanding or confusion - but either way, it's no big deal ;)
philburgess535 3 weeks ago
OMG, iam soo going to steal your cob!! he/she is beautiful <3 :D
Awest160 1 month ago
Firstly its not a Clydesdale its a gypsy cob....just wondering though why the hell do you have boots on it ???? why not ask your smith to shoe it correctly if he is hitting.
shazheeley 1 month ago
@shazheeley you really should read.. "3. No, he's NOT a clydesdale, the caption refers to comment on an older video, from some idiot who thought he was. So no more comments saying "that's not a clydesdale". I KNOW." and what do boots jave to do with shoes...?
huntersatheartRAWS 1 month ago
@huntersatheartRAWS I can only imagine that most of the commenters on here can't read ;) thanks x
philburgess535 1 month ago
@shazheeley he's not shod, my farrier does a great job of keeping all my horses' feet in good shape. The boots are purely for aesthetic value.
philburgess535 1 month ago
OMG!!! She wasnt even cruel!!! How on Earth do you think horses are? Horses are much more cruel that that!!!
ioana20011 1 month ago
Why do people like you own beautifull animals like them?
HorseBoy888 1 month ago
@HorseBoy888 because I can afford to keep them and devote the time to looking after them.
philburgess535 1 month ago 2
ur such a dumb ass. u mother fucker... i would never do anything to my horses like that... bitch!!!!!! i hate stupid riders like you... and i have been to alot of horse shows and never have seen such a cruel bitch! i am calling the police!!!!!!!!!!!!
6700magic 1 month ago
@6700magic Oh dear god *facepalm*
I'm sure the police would be delighted to hear from an illiterate child about the 'abuse' of well cared for horses by a very good horsewoman.
strawbericalpony 1 month ago 2
@strawbericalpony She was most likely being sarcastic :)
1nikomi 4 weeks ago
@1nikomi If that's the case, it would have come across a whole lot better if she could spell :)
strawbericalpony 4 weeks ago 3
@6700magic Retard.
philburgess535 1 month ago
@6700magic well you're a bit of a retard aren't you? i bet you can't even ride! hahaha! and if you do i pity the horses you do ride. this is a very capable rider with fantastically well taken care of horses....
xXxChristinexXxX 3 weeks ago
those horses r beautiful :)
ponykezproductions 1 month ago
who told u that the 1st horse was a clydsdale?
lewycrudda 1 month ago
@lewycrudda someone who was a bit thick when it comes to horses, clearly ;)
philburgess535 1 month ago
should have read the decription first haha sorry
lewycrudda 1 month ago
@lewycrudda lol yea ;) nvm :p
philburgess535 1 month ago
beautiful horses
Horsepeep101 1 month ago
i didnt know people could jump clydsdales?
why have u named the video I'm cruel and my horses hate me xD ?
crazypizzahorse234 1 month ago
awsome video!! :D
crazypizzahorse234 1 month ago
I rode a cob and he jumped pretty high and now i am riding a shire which can jump really really high
HORSERIDER46 1 month ago
Your horses are adorable xD Who says Clydesdales can't jump? Yours obviously can ;) HE IS SO GORGEOUS!
(and obviously abused) ;)
RideReadWrite 1 month ago
what the fuck are you actually trying to do? do you even no?
nataliewilsonx 1 month ago
@nataliewilsonx the most important question is actually: Do YOU know how to spell? =)
philburgess535 1 month ago 7
@philburgess535 what did I spell wrong? your clearly shit at riding compare it to other peoples videos and theres a big difference ;)
nataliewilsonx 1 month ago
@nataliewilsonx "no" is a negative response to a question or request. "know" is the word you were looking for. Indeed, my style is less elegant than professional dressage riders, less relaxed than cowboys, less forceful than pro eventers, more effective than most novices, more secure than most showjumpers. Yes there's a big difference between my riding in this video and other people's (note the apostrophe - denoting possession) videos.
philburgess535 1 month ago
@philburgess535 so this is about spelling? well am talking about your shit riding and the way you are riding not how I spell, atleast I can accept I spelt it wrong you can't accept your shit at riding and obviously the way you are treating your horse. So get a grip and get some riding lessons! and add rather make a wee spelling mistake than treating a horse the way you are! so on your bike idiot!
nataliewilsonx 1 month ago
@nataliewilsonx sorry, but I completely disagree - if you have the audacity to criticise my riding, I'm sure as hell going to pull you up on your inability to formulate a coherent sentence. My horses are exceptionally well schooled - we compete successfully, they are well-mannered for novices and experienced riders, and since I am solely responsible for their training, I think you must be mistaken about my inability to ride ;)
philburgess535 1 month ago 2
@philburgess535 typical horse person think their great at everything to do with horses, but not by the look of this video you seem clueless :) and if you didn't want bad comments why even put the title as I'm cruel and my horses hate me xD, and I can tell by the rest of your comments you like a good argument so away take your pish somewere else ;) 100/100 for spelling this time? thought so :p
nataliewilsonx 1 month ago
@nataliewilsonx your spelling may be acceptable in this instance, but your lack of appreciation for sarcasm is astounding. I don't, as it happens, think I'm "great at everything" - I think previous comments have made that clear, however I object to jumped up teenagers insulting me on youtube, when they neither know what they are talking about, nor understand my methods or techniques. I will not back down from my own video - it is you who is out of line.
philburgess535 1 month ago
@philburgess535 no am not out of line just giving my opinion :D well I suppose your an adult? start acting like one and don't argue with a 'teenager' in that case :) back down from your own video I ok you away grow up and I will walk away like the mature one. Away sort yourself and your attitude out big 'yin'! tara :D <3
nataliewilsonx 1 month ago
@nataliewilsonx No, you're not "just giving your opinion" - you are being rude. Yes I am an adult, but that is all the more reason to tell you off for your lack of manners - why do you think this country is going to the dogs? Simply because adults are not being responsible enough to tell their juniors when to mind their manners and act their age. I recommend you re-think your own attitude. There has been nothing "mature" about your conduct on this page.
philburgess535 1 month ago
@philburgess535 please do not try say my parents are not responsible. And since I am only young why comment on my spelling you dont no if I have problems which I dont :) haha, when you hold open a door for example for an adult they walk straight past you and imagine we done that it would be like aww see teenagers there this and their that this is my opinion so don't try tell me its not you silly woman just cause you can spell perfect and think everyone else has to be up top notch
nataliewilsonx 1 month ago
@nataliewilsonx I'm sorry your grasp of syntax and grammar makes this post almost unreadable. I couldn't care less whether you have problems or not - you can still learn to speak the Queen's English properly and display manners. Perhaps you could even read a newspaper above the "quality" of the Mail and realise your grasp of the political situation is limited. DC wasn't wrong when he spoke of Broken Britain and the need for a Big Society. But I digress...
philburgess535 1 month ago
@philburgess535 NO! this country is going down to the dogs not because of teenagers idiot! its down to the government we don't send our men away to fight for us! I also have to pay tax to the scum that dont work cause they are to lazy to work! thats how our country is going down not the fucking lack of manners for teenagers its the adults so I think you want to go back and think what you are saying young WOMAN! grow the hell up don't put stupid titles up on youtube if you cant handle crit!
nataliewilsonx 1 month ago
@nataliewilsonx Don't shout so, it only lessens your position and makes you seem more immature. I am at liberty to name my videos how I please - and I will respond to criticism as I always do - constructive comments from knowledgable sources are appreciated - ranting and shouting from children is not really my problem. I could, at any point have blocked you - but I hope at some point this may become educational for you.
philburgess535 1 month ago 3
im coming over there and stealing your horses......... for unmanageable cuteness.........oh and the TORTURE YOU ARE PUTTING THEM THROUGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
FluffyUnicorns7 1 month ago
@FluffyUnicorns7 haha quite xD
philburgess535 1 month ago
I looked at your other vids and theyre amazing!!!! Im so sorry for saying that your cruel incredibly sorry :')) brilllll x
Showstarx 1 month ago
@Showstarx lol it's ok, ta.
philburgess535 1 month ago
is he a gypsy vanner?
StephK26 1 month ago
omg a long mane your clydedale have! really beautiful horse! and it's good at jumping :)
turpoemmelie 1 month ago
Seriously what are these people on about? If they didnt wanna jump they wouldn't, both of these horses are unreal and you ride them so well so ignore themm ;) Hehehe aw so much love for the rears :D xxx
HoRsEcRaZyRuTh 1 month ago
HAHAHA J is obviously abused ;) but it's ok I know where they live so I'll come save him, the poor "clydesdale" thats forced to jump. I also think you couldnt ride a rocking horse :P (and for any one thats had a sense of humor fail I'm joking phill has ridden my boy).
Keep providing entertainment kids :D
froggersnrobster 1 month ago
@froggersnrobster haha this thread makes me laugh every day! yes my stunning performance of medium trot on rob was really quite something, wasn't it :P *fail* If I recall though you forced my poor clydie to jump too, so really, you're no better than me! =D x
philburgess535 1 month ago
;I wish everyone would shut up about using a crop on a horse being cruelty! She'd have to hit the horse 5 x harder for it to 'hurt' it!
SpiritSmoosh 1 month ago
that paint is gorgeous! what an amazing animal!
ZOELnumber1 1 month ago
i love how about 90% of people commenting on this video fail to read the description and seem absolutely immune to sarcasm
herp derp derp
then @philburgess535 answers back and they get shitty, when they brought it upon themselves
*le sigh*
idiots of youtube are one thing that are never gonna go away
xxRayenxx 1 month ago
I want your Clydesdale! but both of your horses are beautiful :) don't listen to what people say, you're a good rider!
equinexobsessed 1 month ago
For everyone's information... Not wearing a hat whilst riding is NOT against the law if you're over the age of 14. If you are under the age of 14 and are riding on public roads, you do have to. What difference does it make to you how Phil looks after her horses (which she does very well!) or whether she rides with a hat or not. Her life, her horses. Butt out and let her get on with it.
BlackberryMay 1 month ago
@BlackberryMay cheers - it's the idea that a tap with a whip is cruelty which is currently amusing me most -- that must make jockeys sadists or something :p Ahhh the insane of youtube - keep me amused during the quiet winter months!
philburgess535 1 month ago
@philburgess535
Bloody bunch of nutjobs. I'd like to see them get on a horse who likes to joke about a bit without a crop! I always carry one.
BlackberryMay 1 month ago
this is terrible cant believe how shocking this is :O
LoloXXScotty 1 month ago
@LoloXXScotty I genuinely can't tell who's being sarcastic and who is being retarded in these comments!
philburgess535 1 month ago
@philburgess535 sarcasm ;)
LoloXXScotty 1 month ago
@LoloXXScotty lol just checking :p hehe
philburgess535 1 month ago
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strawbericalpony 1 month ago
When i ride , I'm scared of Whipping the horse an it;s like Hurting the horse thats why i dont whip no more
romeofan11 1 month ago
poor horses.
onedreamshowteam 1 month ago
@onedreamshowteam tragic, isn't it? Well fed, kept in good condition, fit, happy horses who get plenty of turnout and positively love their work. I mean, it's disgusting that I keep my horses so nicely, isn't it?
philburgess535 1 month ago 7
@philburgess535 your not cool when you do saracsm... Yea... you left out. clysedale shouldnt be jumping, your a bad rider, you dont take care of them, and you just shouldnt be handiling such beutiful animals.
onedreamshowteam 1 month ago
@onedreamshowteam he's patently obviously not a clyde - though clydes can jump - clearly you don't know the first thing about horses. They're extremely well looked after - heck my vet was out last week for vaccinations and she didn't have anything to say! As for my riding skill - really none of your business! (ps you're not cool when you don't know what you're talking about - "your" is possessive, "you're" is a contraction of "you are"!)
philburgess535 1 month ago
OMG I love that piebald horse!
SpiritSmoosh 1 month ago
@SpiritSmoosh me too he's great ;)
philburgess535 1 month ago
Your a realy good rider and i dont understand why people are giving mean comments :) P.S.
i Love your horses there so cute <3
XxbertiebouxX 1 month ago
OMFG GET A HELMET ON!!!!! if your horses are misbehaving then the last thing you should do is whip them!! Please for the love of god let your horses go to a happy home!
Showstarx 1 month ago
@Showstarx They are happy - have you any idea what you're talking about? My horses rarely misbehave and I respond in the manner most appropriate when they do - and sometimes, that does involve a sharp smack. I think you'll find there are few horsemen (other than the NH brigade) who would do otherwise. *rollseyes* Ultimately, it's my choice whether to wear a hat or not - it really isn't any of your business.
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Showstarx 1 month ago
@philburgess535 Your just a fail of a horse riderLOL. You just admitted you smack them cruelty to animals much! and ive reported you to animalhealthsociety. And if you want to get your head smashed in because you havent got a hat on then thts fine cos your horses will have to go to a better home.
Showstarx 1 month ago
@Showstarx Smacking a horse with a crop is not cruel - you are aware that racehorses get smacked >20 times PER RACE, eventers, showjumpers, dressage riders all carry whips of sorts, Parelli NH advocate smacking the horse round the jaw with a METAL CLIP to move it back (and that is cruel, imho). I'm sure whichever society that is will be wildly concerned that mine get treated as every other horse in the country. And since you're dim, I'll elaborate - that means they're treated WELL.
philburgess535 1 month ago 3
@Showstarx shutup you retarded know nothing
thoroughbredsftw 1 month ago
@Showstarx i reported her too! she shouldnt handle such gracful beutiful animals. she just abuses them and doesnt no hwo to ride.
onedreamshowteam 1 month ago
@onedreamshowteam I'd love to hear any response you get from any welfare organisation. I'm sure they will be delighted to have their time wasted by this =)
philburgess535 1 month ago 2
@onedreamshowteam I'll be glad when she fall off and smashes her head cos of not wearing a hat cos then her horses can go to a caring home :) Xx
Showstarx 1 month ago
@Showstarx naww aren't you lovely? =) Sorry to report that years after this video was filmed, I'm still in possession of my faculties and my horses... I'm sure you'll be very disappointed.
philburgess535 1 month ago
learn how to jump!sloppy seat and you dont have a steady leg you dont deserve to own a horse. and for goodnes sades child wear a freakin helmet!! it could cost you your life!
cassyk101165 1 month ago
@cassyk101165 Firstly, I'm an adult and have been for many years - please mind your own business. I own many horses, whilst my riding may not be pretty, it is effective and I break and school my own and others - very successfully. I keep my horses is good condition, so I fail to see that any of this is anything to do with anyone else.
philburgess535 1 month ago
Beautiful beautiful horse :)
lisadacat100 1 month ago
Why the hell don't you wear a hat?!" i am sorry but for gods sake do you want to die? not matter how good you think you are at riding a hat is essential and it's also the LAW
HorsesDogs123 1 month ago
@HorsesDogs123 It's not the law unless you're under 14 and on a public highway. Do read the HWC before talking nonsense =)
philburgess535 1 month ago
OMG you should be wearing a riding helmet while riding especially if u horses do tht! and why do u treat them like tht! u r actual;ly quite a gd rider! I can't believe u put this on youtube for the whols world do see it's nuthing to be proud of!!
JOLUVSBERRY4EVAXX 1 month ago
@JOLUVSBERRY4EVAXX My horses are extremely well behaved, thanks. I don't mistreat them, there is nothing in this video which is not defensible - the title is sarcastic - something I fear is lost on a lot of youtubers. I don't see it is anyone else's business whether I chose to ride with or without a hat
philburgess535 1 month ago
@philburgess535 if it was a joke why put it as a title! and say those comments at the bottom of the videos and picts?? and i didn't say u treat your horses badly I just said put a head on especially if your horses are likely to play up!
JOLUVSBERRY4EVAXX 1 month ago
@JOLUVSBERRY4EVAXX Having it as the title was the joke - read the description?! These are all things that (very unknowledgeable teenagers) have said in the past to me - they were wrong, as anyone who knows my horses would attest. Is it that hard to understand?! I do have a head on ;)
philburgess535 1 month ago
@philburgess535 OK. CALM DOWN. IT DIDN'T SEEM LIKEA JOKE. AND I DIDN'T READ THE DESCRIPTION COS I THOUGHT U WERE BEING TRUTHFUL.
JOLUVSBERRY4EVAXX 1 month ago
@JOLUVSBERRY4EVAXX I'm totally calm - you're the one who seems agitated? Why woud you not read the description before having a go at someone? It is generally more sensible to be aware of all of the facts before jumping in all guns blazing. It seems perfectly like a joke to the British sense of humour - it's customary to be aware of cultural differences in such matters before jumping to conculsions.
philburgess535 1 month ago
@philburgess535 ok. But i hav no idea wat u r talkin about! lol, anyways SORRY.
JOLUVSBERRY4EVAXX 1 month ago
@philburgess535 plus i did say you were a good rider so i gave u a compiment!
JOLUVSBERRY4EVAXX 1 month ago
@JOLUVSBERRY4EVAXX well thanks for that anyway...
philburgess535 1 month ago
@philburgess535 haha sorry i thought u actual meabd it. I subd to u btw :) <3 xxx
JOLUVSBERRY4EVAXX 1 month ago
you shouldnt be allowed to own horses, you obviously are cruel to them and you even admitted it, you a horrible.
BarrelRacerHorseGirl 1 month ago
@BarrelRacerHorseGirl Are we familiar with the concept of sarcasm or are we using it?
philburgess535 1 month ago