Why is he referring to the women as in the 12th century? Women in early and high middle ages we're respected and devoted, the time of minnesingers and so on. It changed after the 14th, when the church started to mark women as sinners and unworthy, as we're many other groups because the time was simply horrible.
@Standonarock Bush didn't attack Afghanistan and was thus clueless about Pakistan. Bush even said he doesn't really care about Bin Laden, he said they're not even trying to look for him. All Bush did was keep Bin Laden alive for another decade.
I agree about womens rights also the rights for all females, i mean when little girls are killed for going to school something neess to be done but education not wars would work better.
WOW, people still watch this complicit F8CK, spewing 2 party B.S.; that is obvious with all the "hope and change" of NOTHING..damn
"BUSH DID IT" LMFAO...still?? Hows that Libyan war without Congress or the Constitution going for you...OH YEAH, it's about helping the people; not the WATER and irrigation project that WAS due for completion in 2016..and of course a country that isn't IMF.
Can you imagine what RepubliCONS would do if Obama was President when 9/11 happened and failed to get Bin Laden then Bush became President in 2008 and got OBL and Democrats said Obama should get some of the credit? The CONS would be all over Fox "News" throwing fits.
This is another one of those "Pick and choose" instances that Republicans like to work into their move set.
Clinton didn't give us a surplus, Bush Sr. did... Bush Jr. didn't give us a recession Obama did. These apply cause the person they love/hate happen to be in office at the time.
Here's another one, Obama got Bin Laden... but he only did so cause Bush Jr. forgot about him for like 6 years.
If it wasn't so obvious that they did stuff like this, it'd almost be funny.
So, when the allies fucked over germany at the end of ww1, what happened? They wanted revenge against those that fucked them over, and the other countries its happened to in the past aswell, yeah.
So err, yeah, ileaving now means that things will collapse as said by both the US and the UK governments/military. Will get a nice long bloody civil war and most likely, the odd attack on the US especially.
The tough thing about war is, it takes a long time, alot of money and blood to do right.
here's where the logic fails: how do you expect a completely non-corrupt government to surface out of nowhere within years in a society that by your own admission is living in the 12th century?
it's an excuse because your strategy failed and you now want to get out
the us should've sent all of their iraq soldiers in afghanistan and blasted trough the bullshit once and for all, overkill style. if someone like karzai started messing around, kick his ass off the map and go at it again nxt day
So we go to war in Afghanistan. Soldiers who chose to enlist. Some died. Some Afghanistan citizens who chose to fight died but also some innocents included kids who did not. They had their elections stolen from them. We leave. Oh wait nah stay and take their resources as we deserve pay back for the lives we lost? Did Sr. lose his ever loving mind? Talk about signing up a whole new group of enemies. Should we just hand over what's left of our resources to BP guess we owe it to them.
@DelusionalAngel I have to agree with you. I generally liked general Clark, and thought he would have been a good presidential candidate. I'm so glad he didn't win now. This whole idea of stealing Afghani resources to pay for the invasion is ridiculous.
So what have we learned from this war ladies and gentlemen? Not a damn thing, as usual. As Dean just pointed out, we can't win it when the government we're working with is corrupt and not interested in succeeding anyway; the same damn lesson we should have already learned from Vietnam. And so, history repeats itself, Lyndon Johnson rolls over in his grave, etc.
@minisiets and bin laden won, ideologically anyway. The US proved no better than what he painted them to be for his followers and acolytes, with the prodding of a single act of terrorist he made the US wave the military hard-on it is perpetually hiding and a great deal of the economic turmoil felt today is the result of the disproportionate spending in waging the wars he caused. He's dead, and we're dancing on his grave, but he's caused thousands more of ours to die by our hand than his own.
Cenk the reason George W was not that concerned about Osama was because... (he was already dead, he was working for the CIA, he was useful to military industrial complex, or...), Now regarding what the future plans for Pakistan you should really ask Zbigniew. As you know Zbigniew is Obama's mentor, Check out their meetings in late 07 and early 08.
If you support war, you are a war monger, if you are always in war, guess what: you are a war monguer. USA economy is based in war. If I was an american I would be ashamed
Re: Afghan culture being anti women. Actually that's not Afghani culture that is the Wahabiist extremist Taliban culture. Before the Taliban women were more or less free to pursue any career they liked. It's not Afghanistan it's these Saudia Arabian Wahabi extremists who are the real problem.
lolz it's the muslim terrorist sympathizer, the looney Vermont socialist and the fairy general all together on a failed leftwing loon propaganda channel that noone watches
@nictse500 yes, he IS... and they look very similar, yes.
General Clark is one of the most honest people out there - in 2002 Michael Moore talked about him in his then best-selling book "Dude, where's my country". he then claimed that people should vote for someone like general clark, who, at the time, was for bringing your troops home from afghanistan an not going to Iraq!
yeah, i like General Clark very much, he's an honest guy and not one of the ignorant people in US Military.
If Mr. Dean cares so much about women, he should focus on women in the USA first then worry about women on the other side of the world hows culture and way of life is different. About 3 women a day are murdered by there "intimate partner," women experience about 5 million intimate partner-related physical assaults and rapes every year, about 600 women every day are raped, women are paid 25% less then men doing the same job. USA should take care of there own house first.
The only way that we can convincingly win in Afghanistan is to elect Sarah Palin as our next President. She would have caught him even better for she would have CRUCIFIED him upsidedown on a cross with his legs spread wide open!
Bush needed Osama to stay there to prolong the war and Obama needed him dead to raise his popularity.
HolliValsMusic 9 months ago
Cenk is right......... as usual.
MrBrightWave 9 months ago
Who the hell is buying this Osama hoax? The only people that believe the governement are the uneducated!
GrandChessboard 9 months ago
Pakistan will side with China against India? Let them. It's none of our business.
sonofsarek 9 months ago
lol Saying "Obama" instead of "Osama" never gets old.
niemanickurwa 9 months ago 2
Why is he referring to the women as in the 12th century? Women in early and high middle ages we're respected and devoted, the time of minnesingers and so on. It changed after the 14th, when the church started to mark women as sinners and unworthy, as we're many other groups because the time was simply horrible.
Daishi001 9 months ago
Wes Clark Jr has his father's voice
Nemesis000000 9 months ago 2
It all makes sense!
You wanna know know the REAL reason why the US are in Afghanistan?
/watch?v=Leh5tk89Ncs&feature=related
79Sarwar 9 months ago
lol @ the echo in Cenk's voice.
DrQuijano 9 months ago
Gen Clark sounds and looks like Westmoreland. Great. Another self-congratulatory psycho warbird.
I don't care if his son works for TYT - Gen Clark's heart and mind are at the center of the Military Industrial Complex.
audadvnc 9 months ago 3
Wes Clark, senior and junior rock!
hollygolightly66 9 months ago
Bush did this, Obama didn't do this. Shut the hell up. They both got us and are keeping us in Afghanistan to take care of their precious opium crop.
Standonarock 9 months ago
@Standonarock Bush didn't attack Afghanistan and was thus clueless about Pakistan. Bush even said he doesn't really care about Bin Laden, he said they're not even trying to look for him. All Bush did was keep Bin Laden alive for another decade.
GooGobbler113 9 months ago
What this shows is that you don't need to wage war on the scale Afghanistan was, let alone Iraq.
What this really shows us is that the reason why we're in Afghanistan and Iraq is not for terrorism, but for power and resources.
yadsik 9 months ago
"they"...he probably was talking about the saudis who actually did the crime on 9/11.
restlys 9 months ago
I agree about womens rights also the rights for all females, i mean when little girls are killed for going to school something neess to be done but education not wars would work better.
ldmonahan1 9 months ago
is he saying we gotta invade Afganistan to teach them women rights? FUCKING Lying HYPOCRITE!
DaSkinnyApe 9 months ago
God this Obama Osama thing is killing us. Can any guest or host avoid the misspeak?
aaronsande 9 months ago
WOW, people still watch this complicit F8CK, spewing 2 party B.S.; that is obvious with all the "hope and change" of NOTHING..damn
"BUSH DID IT" LMFAO...still?? Hows that Libyan war without Congress or the Constitution going for you...OH YEAH, it's about helping the people; not the WATER and irrigation project that WAS due for completion in 2016..and of course a country that isn't IMF.
BWAHAHAHAHA MORONS
IronRangeSurvival 9 months ago
Hey Cenk, are you wearing eyeshadow?
stukajunker88 9 months ago
Dam dean you had to fuck up and say Obama, the guys name is Osama.
chewey59428 9 months ago
Can you imagine what RepubliCONS would do if Obama was President when 9/11 happened and failed to get Bin Laden then Bush became President in 2008 and got OBL and Democrats said Obama should get some of the credit? The CONS would be all over Fox "News" throwing fits.
cne08 9 months ago
The latest Medal of Honour game already convinced me on the "small surgical strike teams > large scale invasion force" issue.
Wolfau5 9 months ago
This is another one of those "Pick and choose" instances that Republicans like to work into their move set.
Clinton didn't give us a surplus, Bush Sr. did... Bush Jr. didn't give us a recession Obama did. These apply cause the person they love/hate happen to be in office at the time.
Here's another one, Obama got Bin Laden... but he only did so cause Bush Jr. forgot about him for like 6 years.
If it wasn't so obvious that they did stuff like this, it'd almost be funny.
jasonsgroovemachine 9 months ago
Conservatives fought the wrong wars, Dems fight the right wars? C'mon Cenk wake up!
jibsmokestack1 9 months ago
So, when the allies fucked over germany at the end of ww1, what happened? They wanted revenge against those that fucked them over, and the other countries its happened to in the past aswell, yeah.
So err, yeah, ileaving now means that things will collapse as said by both the US and the UK governments/military. Will get a nice long bloody civil war and most likely, the odd attack on the US especially.
The tough thing about war is, it takes a long time, alot of money and blood to do right.
MitchofSmeg 9 months ago
here's where the logic fails: how do you expect a completely non-corrupt government to surface out of nowhere within years in a society that by your own admission is living in the 12th century?
it's an excuse because your strategy failed and you now want to get out
the us should've sent all of their iraq soldiers in afghanistan and blasted trough the bullshit once and for all, overkill style. if someone like karzai started messing around, kick his ass off the map and go at it again nxt day
inso99 9 months ago
lesson here is if your country is rich in minerals that americans are eying on....you are fucked pretty much.
lasku0007 9 months ago
Only retards are buying this sad hoax.
EMPIREofPUPPETS 9 months ago
it looks like howard dean is choking from how tight his collar is, or something...
wongdor 9 months ago
So we go to war in Afghanistan. Soldiers who chose to enlist. Some died. Some Afghanistan citizens who chose to fight died but also some innocents included kids who did not. They had their elections stolen from them. We leave. Oh wait nah stay and take their resources as we deserve pay back for the lives we lost? Did Sr. lose his ever loving mind? Talk about signing up a whole new group of enemies. Should we just hand over what's left of our resources to BP guess we owe it to them.
DelusionalAngel 9 months ago 3
@DelusionalAngel I have to agree with you. I generally liked general Clark, and thought he would have been a good presidential candidate. I'm so glad he didn't win now. This whole idea of stealing Afghani resources to pay for the invasion is ridiculous.
johnedwards1968 9 months ago 3
So what have we learned from this war ladies and gentlemen? Not a damn thing, as usual. As Dean just pointed out, we can't win it when the government we're working with is corrupt and not interested in succeeding anyway; the same damn lesson we should have already learned from Vietnam. And so, history repeats itself, Lyndon Johnson rolls over in his grave, etc.
minisiets 9 months ago
@minisiets and bin laden won, ideologically anyway. The US proved no better than what he painted them to be for his followers and acolytes, with the prodding of a single act of terrorist he made the US wave the military hard-on it is perpetually hiding and a great deal of the economic turmoil felt today is the result of the disproportionate spending in waging the wars he caused. He's dead, and we're dancing on his grave, but he's caused thousands more of ours to die by our hand than his own.
godthisisannoying 9 months ago
He has all the money and all the support of the warlords. Then they accuse him of stealing the election. There is no way Karzai lost.
Graham6762 9 months ago
Cenk got schooled by Wesley
amphilli 9 months ago
AWESOME football reference!
Atheistbatman 9 months ago
WTF! i did not expect that from Wes Clark, minerals?
CAMARA99 9 months ago
@CAMARA99
agreed. Such twisted logic...
I love Wes Clark, but my jaw hit the floor on what he said about taking their minerals since we've lost troops there.
I don't recall Afghanistan inviting us to invade them, kill their civilians and bomb their towns.
We were after Al Qaeda, but thousands of innocent men, women and children died too.
Small teams sent in on specific missions would have been better. We should get out, not stay and be war profiteers.
kmeccat 9 months ago 4
@kmeccat
yeah.
I don't recall Afghanistan inviting us to invade them, kill their civilians and bomb their towns.
AND THEN
take their minerals since we lost troops there?
ROFL
erjoalgo 9 months ago 2
i can't see father and son agreeing on this, i think wes clark jr would say get the fuck out! why are we still anywhere?
puddum 9 months ago 2
@puddum
LOL...my thoughts exactly!!!
kmeccat 9 months ago
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SpaNisHLOV3 9 months ago
@SpaNisHLOV3 wtf is OSL are you trying to say OBL?
theaceofspades39 9 months ago
Cenk the reason George W was not that concerned about Osama was because... (he was already dead, he was working for the CIA, he was useful to military industrial complex, or...), Now regarding what the future plans for Pakistan you should really ask Zbigniew. As you know Zbigniew is Obama's mentor, Check out their meetings in late 07 and early 08.
cheddyrod 9 months ago
Libary, heh. Cenk's tongue twists quite often.
RichoRosai 9 months ago
Wes Clark rules. Good genes.
MultiUniv3rsal 9 months ago
Holy shit its screaming Dean.
ataira2012 9 months ago
15:17 "Thank you cynic. Thank you."
Try2MakeSenseOrSTFU 9 months ago
Calling Iraq a "huge mistake" is one of the biggest understatements, ever.
mangaas 9 months ago 2
The monkey bar footage is classic. 70's style tv action series. haha
Try2MakeSenseOrSTFU 9 months ago
For fuck's sake, no more Dumbya clips, please.
xyzoneon 9 months ago
governor seems kinda slow in thinking too late to have released this present gov in afghanistan is disfunctional sir ?
MrRuggedboy27 9 months ago
why does Howard Dean look like he just farted up some chili peppers
Redfingers 9 months ago
@Redfingers Because that's the way he rolls.
ChameleonLost88 9 months ago
Cenk has the best George W Bush accent ever. :D
cream0fwheat 9 months ago
CLARK
Kardiatheon 9 months ago in playlist tom
Howard Dean looks like he's pulling 4 G's
muetter 9 months ago
lol the question @ 6:30 must have been a tough one. you can hear his 'oh fuck' swallow right before he talks :P
canadianeh24 9 months ago
The US has no business nation building ANYWHERE.
This guy, calling it an "opportunity".... Stay home, USA, got plenty to do there right now.
artmachine2008 9 months ago
@artmachine2008
Agreed...the only nation we should be building is our own...the good ol' US of A
kmeccat 9 months ago
So Entertaining!
PeakOilCountdown 9 months ago
andy card is a douche.
bush/cheney HELPED OBL ESCAPE TORA BORA!
rumpole33 9 months ago
If you support war, you are a war monger, if you are always in war, guess what: you are a war monguer. USA economy is based in war. If I was an american I would be ashamed
etazra78 9 months ago
Re: Afghan culture being anti women. Actually that's not Afghani culture that is the Wahabiist extremist Taliban culture. Before the Taliban women were more or less free to pursue any career they liked. It's not Afghanistan it's these Saudia Arabian Wahabi extremists who are the real problem.
VoidOnTuesday 9 months ago
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lolz it's the muslim terrorist sympathizer, the looney Vermont socialist and the fairy general all together on a failed leftwing loon propaganda channel that noone watches
hahahahahahaha
EPIC FAIL!
frictionRx9 9 months ago
Dean sucking the shit out of GW's ass.. A Classy guy? This is why nothing changes in Washington. They're all sellouts.
Asymmatrix 9 months ago
Pounding his chest? Really? I have seen absolutely nothing from Obama but the speech after we got him. What are they talking about lol
MauricXe 9 months ago
IS THAT WES CLARK JR'S DAD??? They look exactly the same
nictse500 9 months ago 36
@nictse500 Yup, thats his dad.
EvilFingers 9 months ago
@nictse500 JR is the black guy behind the camera ;-)
gen Wesley Clark is a father of Wes Clark Jr which you most likely think of
When I first heard that Wes' full name was Wes Clark Jr i also asked if he was general's son I was told by someone that he was.
TheOkham 9 months ago
@nictse500 And thats the same Gen, Wesley Clark that served in Vietnam.
EvilFingers 9 months ago
@nictse500 yes, it is.
rinkuhero 9 months ago
@nictse500 His dad's name is "Wes Clark". Obviously.
Beannaich 9 months ago
@nictse500 is this seriously the first time you made that connection? of coarse it is.
metallicafannick 9 months ago
@nictse500 yes, he IS... and they look very similar, yes.
General Clark is one of the most honest people out there - in 2002 Michael Moore talked about him in his then best-selling book "Dude, where's my country". he then claimed that people should vote for someone like general clark, who, at the time, was for bringing your troops home from afghanistan an not going to Iraq!
yeah, i like General Clark very much, he's an honest guy and not one of the ignorant people in US Military.
m0rbusPolytox 9 months ago
@nictse500 *facepalm*
jbw470 9 months ago
@nictse500 it is his dad.
803brando 9 months ago
General Clark is pretty hot, for a general.
Tanfeliz 9 months ago
you can literally hear him swallow his pride at 6:40 right before he explains his flip-flop.
largegrainsofsalt 9 months ago 2
If Mr. Dean cares so much about women, he should focus on women in the USA first then worry about women on the other side of the world hows culture and way of life is different. About 3 women a day are murdered by there "intimate partner," women experience about 5 million intimate partner-related physical assaults and rapes every year, about 600 women every day are raped, women are paid 25% less then men doing the same job. USA should take care of there own house first.
jason022182 9 months ago
:D
MrRazzeldazzel88 9 months ago
Cenk needs a soundboard on MSNBC
azowynn14 9 months ago 69
@azowynn14 and he needs to be primetime
MauricXe 9 months ago
@azowynn14 MSNBC probably sees it as too amateur. Cenk needs to come across as a pro.
Asymmatrix 9 months ago
@azowynn14
Well if he does, maybe Dean can provide his signature demonic yell hehe.
NaziGOPBallmer 9 months ago
@azowynn14 He could use the TYT iphone ap!
ooMONKEYoo 9 months ago
why the fuck does everyone get obama and osama mised up?????? pay attention to what you say to billions of people -_-
ChillTime240 9 months ago
@ChillTime240 hahaha billions is really really overstating it
dsquaredmlg 9 months ago
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The only way that we can convincingly win in Afghanistan is to elect Sarah Palin as our next President. She would have caught him even better for she would have CRUCIFIED him upsidedown on a cross with his legs spread wide open!
ecwaufisxtreme 9 months ago
I'm getting pretty good at deciphering Conservaspeak.
Frankly, honestly, truly = code for, I'm about to lie to you.
TheGiantRobot 9 months ago
First page :D
Khuntastik 9 months ago
02:45 2 transitions?LOL
mrafaeldie 9 months ago
3rd!
dsquaredmlg 9 months ago
LOL osama lookes like he just got gang banged.
kursk39 9 months ago
TYT!
Nayr747 9 months ago