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  • How does the 4870 compare to the 4890? Or is there a difference?

  • The 4890 almost beats the GTX 285 and even beats it in some games, I know as I went from a 4890 to a GTX 285 which costed 200 more.:P Way overpriced, too much power draw, too hot, and 0 impressive results.

  • gtx 275 kicks the 4890 in it's nuts !i ati is better than nvidia only on ultra-high end pc systems....how many of you out there can afford an Intel i7...over 6gb of Ram. just to so you will not give the ati card a bottleneck effect...nvidia practically is more adaptive...i managed with 9800GT to play chrysis on almost very high settings with some modest specs like : core2duo e8200..2gb of ram at 667 freq. and the game was extremely playable. Nvidia FTW !

  • HAIL HITLER!

  • wow 4890 looks like a power hog (2-6pin) my 5770 only has 1-6pin and its pretty much the same card just the 5770 has a tad more horse power.

  • HI, what is the best graphic card out there? Is it ATI Radeon HD 5970?

  • @uphill248

    For the moment it is, but its kinda pricey.

    What resolution are you running on? (or aren't you intending to buy it :)

  • ...The thing I don't like is that it would be very easy for ATI to have DX11 Support in 4 series cards ,They Choose Not to , I have a Hard time Spending Cash to go Backwards (Ati 5770) or Sideways (Ati 5830).... I only buy cards when there is big leaps in Performance , 6800 to 1800 xtx to 8800gt to 4890 , I don't see the Next big leap Price/Performance yet ... I just finished playing Bad Company 2 and the 4890 is doing fine (5870 would mean a Whole Hard ware change) ,So Far....

  • @mrjamesb56 yes thats realy fucking strange u r correct

  • That's a Nice Graph , But you don't get even 1.5x's Performance in Crossfire....

  • yo dudes im new in pc things and i wanna know things that you guys probably already know. first of all i wanna buy a new pc for Starcraft 2 my current pc barely runs warcraft 3 and as i wanna build a new one i have some questions what do you guys think is better some nice motherboard or a nice cpu intel? i realized that actually there is no program that could be realy used in core 2 quad so i think is better buy a good m/board. and also wich thing is betta a high video card? or a lot of ram?

  • guys just let you know that ati 4890 owns Gtx 275 in most games

  • @mypet33 hey is that the EAH 4890 is powerful than GTX 275 ???

  • at the moment dx11 is useless cuz most games are still no even on dx10, its because both ps3 and xbox 360 use dx9

    so you in my opinion gtx2xx owns ati 48xx and even 57xx and 58xx

  • Damn straight! All these guys rushing out to buy DX11 cards when most games are still coming out with DX9!!

  • hmmm are you sure? the all GTX2xx getting their asses handed by the HD5xxx Series lol

  • @InitialDAmine

    Right now the ATI 58xx series owns Nvidia of course that's because they just recently made those cards. Gtx 295 is getting pretty old and still running pretty good. Otherwise, why would ATI make cards that cannot beat the GTX 295? So of course the latest ATI series beat Nvidia. I am a nvidia fan myself and because Nvidia will be releasing the GTX 300 series soon, it should beat the ATI cards for sure. But I have to admit, finally the ATI beats the gtx 295 a year later though

  • I'm not that enthusiastic about Nvidias cards anymore they went lazy after the G92 and 8800 series and all they"ve done in the last 4 years is just overclocking and renaming which ATI to catch up and overtake them . Also both cards the 5xxx series and the GTX2xx are 2009 product and they are the same generation indeed the Nvidia were out several months before but that was quite some miscalculation from them to just overclock their old product to have huge benifice marge...

  • They are not the same generation the gtx 200 series came out in 2008 check your facts.

  • @thereddog223 give me the exact release date of the GTX295. and lets see who needs to check his facts.

  • Jan 8th of 2009 so it still was almost a full year before the 5000 series was released. The 4000 series and the gtx 200 series are the same generation.

  • @thereddog223 so if i folow your logic the GTX4xx Series that is just started to hit the market 7month after the HD5xxx series is not in the same gerneration aswell.

    So what generation are they?

  • No they just came out late the gtx 295 was based off of two gtx 275s so it was from the previous generation.

  • @thereddog223 and why woudn't be that the HD5xxx that came some months after the GT2xx? i'm just folowing your own logic which is flawed.,and i know what the 295 is made off the video was made in april 2009 and the only models that were selling are GTX2xx.

    And it doesn't really matter even the HD4xxx are more than enough to handle the GTX2xx

  • Dude even the gtx 275 is faster then the 4890 and the gtx 480 is the single fastest gpu right now.

  • @thereddog223 oh really?! a GTX275 is faster than the 4890 ok then prove it my friend, in every availible comparaison of both cards the HD4890 is faster.

    faster Single GPU yes after 7 months, and not to mention it cost almost as much a HD5970 , with the low stock suppleys, and when you buy a CG you don't care if it is a single or bigpu you care about brute performance and the HD5970 is miles ahead compared to the GTX480

  • @tekkyhead you no wat you are wrong becoz nividia is struggling to go forward that the ddr3 but nividia still struggling to make DDR4 vgas and DDR5 VGAs even dx 11 is not still released becoz for them that's a fail. ATI Has released months ago and ATI is GONA come along DDR 6 either

  • DDR3 and DDR5.. So what, Nvidia's DDR3 still pawning DDR5 ATI cards.

  • @drunkbear2000 nope dude you are wrong you need to play ATI 5xxx Card to play Battlefield bad company 2 with the recommended settings becoz there is a feature called HBAO you need a DX 11 Card to play this Smoother by HBAO switch on

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  • @MrAnsh1991 you can play that game with 1 good card GTX 275 or EAH 4890 with all settings high but with these resolutions 1440*XXXX 1600*XXXX but if you going upwards like 1920*XXXX you need two cards witch supports DX 11 to play with HBAO on

  • what means: max board power?

  • I'm pretty certain I'll be getting me a 4890 in the very near future....since after already purchasing a second 8800gtx, I found out my MB only supports xfire and not sli......so my plan is to sell the 2 8800gtx's and buy me a single 4890 with that money....think that's a good plan?

  • 4890 is nice but love crossfire 5770 even more :)

  • funny you say that.....just a couple days after my post I found an msi 5770 oc edition on newegg for about $40 less than the 4890 that I was gonna get....I ended up getting the 5770 instead....supposed to get here tomorrow....can't wait! btw how is it in xfire? like power requirement and heat wise? I've heard their really efficient, just want some real world thoughts on it.

  • im not a pc pro but a 550 wat is enough for crossfire since the card does not need allot of power like the 4890 and it doesnt get to hot

  • @nookey222 550 W would be cutting too close ,Especially if overclock your cpu or gpu....

  • 4890 owns a gtx 280-285 in many games

    4890 CF owns gtx 295 !

  • GTX275 little bit >4890!

  • Hey what is the song?

  • I run the ATi 4890 and its fucken cool to say the least, Solid performing card spits out frames very solid, I also run a Intel Q9550 cpu and 4 gig ddr3 ram.

  • NVIDIA FTW!!!

  • no man! it doesnt have dx11 on there best cards :(! ati ownt

  • It's not important if you take GTX275 or ATI HD4890! Both are just great cards!

  • Do any of this two fit the GateWay GT5622

  • I like ATi better, their cards are a lot cheaper with just the same performance as what they are trying to compete against

  • I agree with you there.

    Also I like ATI better because I got a AMD CPU too.

  • what is a better card the ati 4890 or 275gtx

  • GTX 275

  • damn i have 2 ati 4890 if i know that the 275 was better i had chose for 2 275 , is there a big difference in performence ?

  • Depends.

    4890 Is more overclockable than GTX275.

    When you OC the 4890 it mop the floor even with GTX285 :D.

    So yes, 4890 better.

  • but a regular 275 is better than a regular 4890

  • @doronknowsbest3

    I don't think so.

    4890 Vapor-X own any gtx275 :D

  • let me guess man ... you have a 4890 vapor-X?:D

  • @doronknowsbest3

    Nop, i got a 9800GT :D and works really good :p

  • @doronknowsbest3 Hell ya, the GTX 275 is deffinetly faster than the 4890- they built the GTX 275 just for the 4890. Specially at higher resolutions, the GTX 275 really pulls away. I own the GTX 275 OC Edition, it gives the GTX 285 a run for its money with a slight overclock applied to the GPU and Memory.

  • @illmagnified Hey I am not calling you a lair or anything but the 4870 ran better benchmarks on some games then a normal 275. The 4890 XFX is one heck of a good card, you can hang with 285s without a problem.

    I hate to tell Nvidia fans but you're paying for more then what you get the GTX480 is such a rip off, its not worth the money.

  • @SuRihtanil No I understand, Im not an Nvidia Fan boy by any means. Before my current Build, I had an AMD Athlon FX-53 ($1,000 chip) with an ATI X850 XT Platinum Edition ($549.99) - I go with the best Performing hardware for what Im looking for. The 4890 is deffinetly a fast card, but the EVGA GTX 275 is the faster chip hands down and beats the 285 with the smallest of overclocks. The GTX480 beats the 5970 when Tessellation is used which is one of the Key features of DX11.

  • @illmagnified the HD5970 beats the GTX480 tessellation on or off and every bench availible. the gtx480 digg quite a noticeable gap with the HD5870 when it comes to tessellation but overall the diffrence is about 10% or less and if considering the price diffrence and the overlocking capabilities ....the story changes...

  • @InitialDAmine stop comparing the gtx480 with the 5970.The Nvidia developers declared that the gtx 480 will be between the 5870 and the 5970 which all tests prove that :)

  • @BynDStyleZ you didn't add anything to what i said before i mean performance wise, the only thing you don't see is that price wise the GTX480 is NOT really in between the 5870 and 5970 more to the 5970 side! just check any dealer you want they sell here for 500€-560€ and by adding 40€ you can get pretty much easly a HD5970

  • nvidia has been put back in their place, the 5870 has arrived,

    gtx 295....go home take a shower and wash the shame off...

    radeon 4890 > gtx275

    and thats all i have to say for now.

  • Damn ATI whore!!!!!!

  • 5870 x2!!!!

  • wtf is up with the jesus music. . .

  • well get him in ur life and maybe u wont go to hell

  • thanks man, god bless =)

  • whts song and artist plz? i have gtx275, love it to bits

  • Planetshakers - Free :)

  • lol bless ati for lying the gtx 260 c216 smokes the 4870 in crysis warhead, farcry2, gta iv, and left 4 dead i dont know about the others

  • ati didnt lie the 4870 did beat to gtx 260, then nvidia back tracked and came out with the core 216 that beat the 4870

  • thats the 1 i meant most people mean the c216 wen they say gtx 260 because a its the better 1 and b its the most recent

  • lol yeah but i still like ati

  • im geting this card in like a week

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  • The best card until now!

  • whats the goddam song?

  • rofl jesus music

  • AMD - ATI Radeon Best Choice ! 2 X 4890 In Crossfire beat the last Videocard 295 from Nvidia and not so Expensive ! :) Nice Video 5 Stars Voted

  • ATI rules!

  • 275 gtx is faster

  • i bought the 4890 because on benchmarks on high resolution with AA on it is about 3 fps faster and it's cheaper

  • is it christian music?? ^^

  • yeah =]

  • are u christian? I am .

  • yepp sure am

  • No I am not . Muhahhahah :)

  • ur not? 0.o

  • Not What ? christian? I am but dont like :) Normla life is more nice :)

  • so u dont go to church? :O

  • LOL I wass when i wass little now is to late :) Muhahaha

  • :/ i dont think that is a good thing. I go to church tho

  • Com on... lets talk abouth True Things like IT and Games :) Whne you buy the new Videocard from ATI :)

  • god is the true thing :)

  • i kno people are so crazy these days

  • hehe.. and now the 5870 rapes the GTX295... no sweat

  • lol i kno

  • but some ppl says the GTX295 still beats the 5870 0o

  • lol people only lie the 5890 is the fastest in the world right now

  • the 5890 hasnt even been released

  • yes it has it was released on the 23rd check newegg out, they sold out it cost $400

  • sorry 5870 not 90

  • Unlike some of the people, I found the song to be better than the video.

    The GTX275 is, for the price, a better high end card for the money than any other GPU. ATI has had a rough run since the 6800s and the 7x series released by nvidia. However, I believe that their they may surpass nvidia in the next series of cards. Nvidia GTX3x cards have great potential. Nvidia is behind in a few areas: DX11 support GDDR5 optimization Smaller cards budget friendly GPU's

    For now Nvidia is better

  • dont you mess something ATI have DX 10.1 and GDDR5 ???? and NVIDIA cards are more expensive

  • blah blah blah you can throw out all the marketing terms you want but in the end it comes down to benchmarks and FPS scores. these two cards are basically neck and neck, and you can find them for more or less the same price. It comes down to what deal you can find on the day you're making the purchase, or, if you're a fanboy, personal preference.

  • GeForce is the best!!!!!

  • I got one GTX 260 and its the Crappiest card in the world!! I get very low fps and its always gets overheated!!! I gave 220 bucks for this shit!!

    Guys..... i want a 4870x2......

  • nvidia at the moment makes more better AND POWERFUL video cards than ati. 4890 WAS AND USE TO BE ONE OF THE BAD ASSES . NO MORE. READ YOUR LOCAL PC MAGAZINE REST MY CASE. THANK U AND GOD BLESS.Dont forget to tip your waiter

  • information is good, song sucks though

  • pls tell what song!!

    I still don´t know what to buy..

    I think I wait for the gt300 and RV870 (5000 series) from ati and nvidia.

  • Free - planet shakers =]

  • 275>4890. My friend has a 4890 and I have a GTX 275 and we ran benchmarks on Crysis and 3DMark (using each other's machines). My frames & scores were better, but not by much. 4890 is great for the price but it gets REALLY hot. My 275 loads at only 65 Degrees.

  • Ok. you got a higher FPS, but it depend's your CPU. In Gaming CPU,GPU,RAM,other work as a team. If you have a better CPU it's normaly for you got get a higher FPS.

  • We tested both cards on my system. And nvidia drivers>ATi drivers. Another selling point for me is on newegg they give free games on almost all their nvidia cards. They don't do that for ATi so I just went with the 275 instead of the 4890. Both are kickass cards though.

  • 4890 and 275 are on par with each other, so I don't how your 275 rapes a 4890...

  • lol man, you didnt even used the gtx275 for compairing it to the ati 4890.. you used the 260 ahaha.

    Anyway.. I had both GFX cards.. (gtx275 and HD4890) and to be honest the Gtx275 rapes the 4890 in ANY possible way...

  • lol if you observed the graphs close enough, you would see that for the first one starts at .8 and you cant see the other half that should be to the left of that, making it look like the crossfire is such a big advantage. however, i will admit this:i am an NVidia fanboy and I beleive with quad SLI, dual link GTX 295's rape everything

  • Check beefdog88. The guy has 2 4890 in crossfire.He gets in Crysis at 1680x1050 res. on max setts with 16xQ aa about 45 average fps.

    Show me a gtx295 getting that or shut the fuck up.

  • well, the fact that one gets close to it is pretty good. if you put 2 gtx 295's in, it would MURDER your pathetic 4890's. Ohh, and no need to curse. By doing that you'll just humiliate yourself even more. :)

  • What a dump idiot you are...

    Firstly, the GTX295 is a dual GPU card that is made of theoretically 2 gtx275s.

    Secondly, Nvidia doesn't support quad SLI yet. Dual gtx295s means: tri sli + physx accelerator.

    Thirdly, you didn't show me where i can find a gtx295 or 2 gtx275s...or 2 gtx295s aka 4 gtx275s.... getting 45fps average fps in Crysis on max setts with 16XQ AA. or 250 fps in Asaasin's Creed like beefdog does.

  • i know gtx 295 is a dual gpu that is a cross between a 260 and a 280. i dont fucking feel like arguing about graphics cards with someone over THE INTERNET... so whatever, you're right, i'm right wrong. im just telling you what you wanna hear, im not saying your right, and im not saying im right.

  • Wow, this is some yippy-doo music.

  • ati fanboy -_-

  • ya the gtx 275 rapes the 4890 i have mines oced to the specs of a gtx 285 and then some

  • NICE PRICE 189€

  • you go to the ati site to compare benchmarks? lol, go to the nvidia site and its gonna show their bias too.

  • no...those are pretty much right

  • no..look at the graphs, it says the 4890 has like 4 times more power maybe even 5 than the 275. that is total BS and if u believe it ur either dumb or a fanboy of ati.

  • or i have a 4890 and i can see that it outperforms my friends 275

  • i did not say the 4890 would not out perform it, i said it is not double the speed. if anything it would be maybe by about 10-15 fps at the most. i dont go for one brand or another, i have a nvidia right here next to me, but im running an ATI.

  • thats probably cause you've better specs than than your friend.. I had both gfx cards in 2 equal computers.. and the gtx275 raped the ati in any way man...

  • The 4890 rapes the gtx275 and mostly outperforms it's 3% overclocked brother, the gtx285, in most cases, especially in the DX10.1 games, like:

    Stalker CS., HAWX, Call of juarez bound in blood, Empire total war, Storm rise, Battle forge ..............etc.

    It consumes less power than the gtx275 because it's made of about 60% of the number of transistors that the G200 chip is made of. "950Million compared to 1.48 billion transistors"

    Plusss, ATI's superior image quality compared to nvidia's.

  • He didn't even use the 275, he used the 260 which obviously isn't gonna compete with the 4890, but a 285 would easily kill that 4890.

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  • no can't you see the numbers it's like 1 and then 1.1 and then 1.2 it's a graph that's made to fool people LOL

  • LOL double performance over GTX260??

    NICE JOKE :D

  • To bad those benchmarks were all WRONG!!! Do you happen to be from /g/?

  • le gtx 275 est bien plus puissant ;) le ati radeon 4890 cest de la vrai merde, ton teste ne vaut rien !

  • Kleiner ATI fanboy^^ Nvidia is besser! Ich sag nur GTX 275 in jedem test besser ;)

  • As result of a benchmark the 4890 performs almost the same as an average GTX 260, the 275 outperforms both by a long shot.

  • seriously dude? christian rock?

  • wats the point of making a video liek this when u dunt even own the card

  • Omg, Get better music plz

  • turn it of put on yor own. its not like hes saying anything

  • of? yor? You better turn on your spell check.

  • if i had one i would. i yust usually look at my keyboardd instead of my screen and then click post immediatly after it so it wouldent actyallu do that mutch

    still its readable(ish.) :P

  • Did noone else notice the fact that they put the 4890 up against the 260 not the 275 in the benchs shown, they arent even direct competition technically as the 4890 and 275 are priced to compete that's like me taking a 275 and posting it against the 4850

  • yeah true. i don't get it why they do this.

    i saw it in more videos. 4890 its competitor is 275 not the 260..

  • song?

  • i have a x1950xtx in crossfire in AT8, but this one is destroy my dreams about old, 3dfx voodoo 5 6000 performance. :( (old times, go0d times?)

  • fanboy noob ati sucks

    gtx 295 is the true power!!!!

  • funny cuz ati had title of king for good 6 or 7 months and nvidia is trying so hard nowadays XD such as dropping prices hardcore, cant wait for ati 5000 series or 4890 X2 although im an nvidia fanboy

  • I'm more interested in Nvidia's next gpu (380), because they know ATI rolled them over with the 4XXX series.

    But ATI's 5XXX series should be interesting...

  • very intresting, 5xxx should offer us something we havent seen b4 it was already in the making when they released 4870 x2 and now theres gonna be a 4890 x2 although it isnt officially confirmed, which should kick ass, XD but nvidia might have a trick or 2 under their sleeves, or they could drop prices again XD

  • lol, i support both manufacturers, they both do good cards

  • Yes, i agree that NVidia has the power. But ATI is much, much more cheaper and offers almost the same performance. So i'll stick with ATI as long as NVidia dosn't drop the prices to about the same level as ATI

  • dude there just about all the same, ATI is good for price and give good performance, but their drivers are a bit dodgie from times.

    Nvidia is a bit more expensive and also give good performance and have better drivers than ati.

    either way though, their both just as good

  • but u will see performance when new drivers come from ati for 4890

  • This is bullshit i own 2 of the Ati 4890 HIS and cf and i can't even score that at that point.

  • this is fake

  • U sure you are not suffering from a bottleneck?

  • for some reason those benchs were made by AMD : )

  • They're about the same.

  • Gay music and fake benchmarks are always good ;)

  • yh lol

  • fuck this music

  • ATI Fanboy... this song is fu$%ing gay

  • Actually, a 275 is faster than a 4890, and it's cheaper.

    A 920 i7, - $200.

    Gigabyte EX58 - $200. = $400, not $1500.

    3GB of Triple channel ram goes for $120 these days. Hardly 1500.

    Intel's architecture is shitloads more high quality than AMD, and ATi, they can't even make good drivers.

    AMD and ATi are both shit, and so are you. Stupid faggot 12 year-old.

  • fanboy detected

  • i am thinking I am a fanboy but this will stay this way cuz I can't afford switching to nvda or intel system amd quad 9500 looking to go phenom 2

    mobofx790

    4gb 1066mhz gskill duel channel

    and hd4850 not upgrading till dx11

  • First of all, you know fuck all about computers. GTFO.

    AMD/ATI products are NOT high quality, the fans are shit, their CPUs have cores in which have to be turned off to be stable (Phenom II 720).DDR5, this doesn't matter. Because if DDR3 keeps up with DDR5, then it's just bragging rights is all you gain.

  • dude drr5 is quad pumped so your wrong about ddr3 keeping up ddr3 is only dub pump 1000mhz drr5 = 4000mhz ddr and drr3 1000mhz = 2000ddr and it takes more power then ddr5 so no you gain much more then bragging rights but you have a point buy on frames per sec and watts and heat not new tech new tech may go hand and hand but it doesn't always.

  • thank you :) someone who knows there shit

  • Where are the 275 benchmarks?

  • oh well... GTX 295 > 4870x2 so fuck ati haha

  • ya do know your gay right?? LOL I thought so ATI and Nvidia Compete but If they worked to gather ya never know What kind of power they would bring Counting on i have a 4850 and a 8600GT in one system one fore PhysX and Boy do i get MASSIVE FPS You fucking fail ^_^

  • i am not a fanboy of neither brands.i ve been using ati products since 9700pro was released.this time i think i ll chose a gtx275 only because of physx....mirrors edge really lagged on my friend pc : core2quad 9400 , 4gb ram ,3870x2 when physx was on.on onother system with 8800gts there was not so much lag.I hope tha ati will do something about that with the upcoming 5xxx series.i really do like ati for their value for money cards

  • Anand's thorough review of the 4890 and 275 showed that the PhysX has no noticeable enhancement to select games that would otherwise benefit from it. The 275 and 4890 are equally matched however, making power consumption and drivers dictating choice.

  • aw thx dude I really appreciated ur advise ;)

    I'm going for it , i hope everything will be ready in Q3 2009 (SB890, ATi 5xxx series etc.)

    Anyway i totally agree with it. AMD-ATi is doing great business last age(s) good quality s