Lee Strobel - Does Science Point To A Creator?

[estuchedepeluche]

The fact that Santa Claus, the Eastern Bunny and fairies have not been seen recently doesn't prove that they don't exist, right?

I think we should move on and start debating the existence of the sun or the beach, there are many people who have never seen them up close or touch them with their hands and are very skeptical.

[bibliaotradiciones]

The universe was created by a command and there must be an intelligent designer! There is no such a thing as coincidence! Science can only explain things that can be observed and rationalized. You cannot see the wind but you know it's there, or you believe in history but you have never seen it. For it is written: “I will destroy the wisdom of the wise; the intelligence of the intelligent I will frustrate. For since in the wisdom of God the world through its wisdom did not know him! 1 Corin 18.

[larsonb33]

I must be a special kind of atheist, I do not believe in man made gods or that one being is the end all and creator. If a super being exists, and it is a quite unlikely it does. I guarantee that it would not give a shit about what you eat or who you sleep with, hell it may not even be aware that it created anything. Why do your gods have to be so petty and resemble man? Man searches for things he cannot know and creates Gods. Atheists search for answers to real questions.

[nomen23]

What kind of god would let Lee go on TV with a haircut like that?

[flushy2009]

Hgggh

[tshirtdiaperwearer]

@MyPersonalFavourites If reading this thing is so important to being a muslim, why are so many illiterate? Have I not explained to you that I won't consider a book 'holy' when it starts with the premise that the only language I know, english, is not the proper one to fully understand it. Lastly, it is not necessary to read the quran to know its claims are crazy. Muhmad was no prophet, just like Smith was no prophet. Why don't you read the book of mormon and find out if you are a mormon?

[tshirtdiaperwearer]

@MyPersonalFavourites I didn't say exaggerating. I said you are being lied to by these videos you are bragging about regarding both the extent and importance of western scientist conversion. For one, conversion doesn't matter in regards to the truth claims of islam, and two, the number of conversions is probably insignificantly small in relation to the number of people in this particular category that you seem to glorify. How do you go from thinking god can't be seen to muhmad is a prophet?

[CJGitruh]

@tshirtdiaperwearer Love cannot be SEEN. Does that mean it doesnt exist?

[tshirtdiaperwearer]

@CJGitruh The sense of sight evolved to allow animals to detect only those objects that reflect light. The act of seeing a thing does not bring it into existence. Therefore, a thing that is not seen can exist, just as a thing that is seen can exist. This also includes god. If god is invisible, god can still exist. This is not an argument I have ever made. Why are you asking a question, insinuating a premise upon me, which I have never expressed? Are you a strawman building piece of shit?

[CJGitruh]

Many things (wind, love) cant be 'seen' but that doesnt mean they dont exist. I can see the destruction caused by wind, Feel it blow. I will deny everything to save my child from harm, even die for him. I love. Nature reveals that God created. The Heavens declare creation of God. Many facts make it impossible to deny a creation.The heart that wants to deny God exists says it evolved. Its a HUGE leap of faith to believe it evolved. Where are the fossil records to reflect that?

[tshirtdiaperwearer]

@MyPersonalFavourites You do know that science is not argued from the point of authoritarianism, right? Just because an authority figure says something does not make it true. Also, just because someone may be smart in one area does not mean they can't make mistakes in other areas, i.e. scientists who are religious. Furthermore, you have probably been lied to about the extend of "many western scientists and thinkers who converted to islam." That verse is still stupid.

[tshirtdiaperwearer]

@MyPersonalFavourites I feel sorry for your kid being brought up in that retard religion. That verse is vague, and tells you nothing about how anything was created. The universe (heavens?) is approx 14 billion years old and the earth is approx 4.5 billions years old. The big bang was not a split of the heavens from the earth. If I "think about this verse," I imagine a large infinite mass that is split to form on one side the universe and on the other side earth. That is entirely inaccurate.

[tshirtdiaperwearer]

@MyPersonalFavourites Do you fucking know what an analogy is? My point wasn't that I had formed an opinion on a book I read. I am making an analogy between the quran and another book. Sometimes I really think you are stupid. The quran, you say, does not contradict itself, and you offer this as proof of its divine authorship. My fictional novel does not contradict itself either. That does not mean it has divine authorship, it just means the author had basic storyline construction technique.

[tshirtdiaperwearer]

@MyPersonalFavourites The quran says the quran has no mistakes, so you think it is the word of god? I read The Foundation Series by Asimov. It's about galactic empires, predicting the future, and a mutant with mind control. It didn't contradict itself. That did not mean what was written therein was true. The quran may be internally consistent, that doesn't mean its claims are true. The quran is fiction that claims to be true. People can have comfort and peace with other religions, or atheism.

[keilareadman]

Michael Shermer rules

[tshirtdiaperwearer]

@MyPersonalFavourites You are claiming that islam offers comfort but not certainty, "that is different from reaching certainty.." Your claim is wrong. Islam offers both comfort and certainty. Comfort is easy to offer. Drugs and overeating offer comfort. Certainty is hard to offer but islam does it. You accept the certainty of islam because of the comfort it offers you. I would say that just because something gives you comfort does not mean it is true. Mormons would say mormonism gives comfort.

[tshirtdiaperwearer]

@MyPersonalFavourites "we can reach certainty only when we have reasoned well and found answers to our questions." That is a critical thinking mistake. There isn't always an answer to be found with our current knowledge. When there isn't an answer it is okay to admit you don't know. However, I would posit that it is not okay to force yourself to believe in a bad or wrong 'answer'. Religion is the wrong answer that you are using to comfort yourself with certainty.

[tshirtdiaperwearer]

@MyPersonalFavourites The reasons I don't think the muslim god is real even though a book is written about him is similar to the reasons why I don't believe in zeus when I read mythology. Why do you think quoting the quran is so powerful? Your quote was written by humans who claimed to have knowledge they didn't really have. They were intentionally deceitful or they were mistaken about the extent of their knowledge. When you tell me, "I believe in this" you are telling me how gullible you are.

[tshirtdiaperwearer]

@MyPersonalFavourites It leaves you with three options. 1)we were created by something that has intention. 2)we came from something that does not have intention. 3)we came from nothing (not so far fetched according to physics). I don't know which is true. You say you know 1 is true. If you were to leave it at that, you would be a deist. That is as far as the arguement in your last post went, to deism. But you are not a deist, you are a theist, and I can say for certain that your god is not real.

[tshirtdiaperwearer]

@MyPersonalFavourites Maybe there is or isn't a reason behind existence. I don't know. That's the difference between us. I am not afraid to say I don't know, while you claim to know and then point to a fairy tale as your proof. You ask me, "did u come from nothing?" and I'll answer that maybe we did, but if there was 'something' that we came from, how do you know it is anything like your god? You ask me, "r u the creator of your own self" and I'll answer with a flabbergasted and drawn out noooo

[tshirtdiaperwearer]

@MyPersonalFavourites What question did I not answer? You asked, "do we really need magic....", to which I ANSWERED "if the word magic bothers you, replace it with miracle." Are you as a religious person willing to say miracles can't happen? You also asked, "Do u believe in god....", to which I ANSWERED "I have no belief in any god." Don't accuse me of avoiding your questions just because you can't fucking read, it takes up my time having to retype things for you.

[cosmopolite66]

Storbel is a liar. Here is what James Tour said on the topic of evolutioncreation on site jmtourdotcom: "Assuming that I have something significant to contribute to the evolution vs. creation debate, many ask me to speak and write concerning my thoughts on the topic. However, I do not have anything substantive to say about it. I am a layman on the subject. I am not qualified to enter the public discussion on evolution vs. creation"

[cosmopolite66]

Storbel is a liar. Here is what James Tour daid on the topic of evolutioncreation on site jmtourdotcom: "Assuming that I have something significant to contribute to the evolution vs. creation debate, many ask me to speak and write concerning my thoughts on the topic. However, I do not have anything substantive to say about it. I am a layman on the subject. I am not qualified to enter the public discussion on evolution vs. creation"

[tshirtdiaperwearer]

@MyPersonalFavourites You think you are more responsible? Responsibility is given to one who has the confidence of the one giving it. Therefore, your god has greater confidence in arab people than any other people. Ask yourself which is more likely, a god exists that singles arabs out or arabs created a god with their ethnocentrism. You have made your choice as you are muslim, and it was an arrogant choice. Also, if the word magic bothers you, replace it with miracle. I have no belief in any god

[tshirtdiaperwearer]

@MyPersonalFavourites Are you really so lacking in imagination that you can't think of better ways for an omnipotent god to communicate his message with humanity? How about a magical book written in a language that everyone, even the illiterate, can read? Hell, if there was a book like that, I'd believe it was special. Or how about instead of a book, god actually talks to people regarding his message for them. I mean really talk to them, not the bullshit you hear from christians all the time.

[tshirtdiaperwearer]

@MyPersonalFavourites That's all well and good you mention all these other prophets and the languages they spoke, but don't kid yourself. According to islam, what is the final and complete message of god? The quran. What is the language that muslims consider the prefered language to read the quran in? Arabic. So clearly your god must be a racist to afford one group of people the advantage of being native speakers of this language. Clearly you must agree with this gods racism as you are a muslim.

[tshirtdiaperwearer]

@MyPersonalFavourites I have never read the quran. What would be the point? I can't read arabic, so I wouldn't get the full god power from it according to your racist religion. I have wiped my ass with the quran though, which is a much better use for it than reading. You keep saying you believe in things like I'm supposed to be impressed by your gullibility. Does the fact that your "god" has a preference for arabic ever make you think, "maybe this is man made" or are you really so arragant?

[Samura1gamer]

"welcome in faith under fire"

says the man who defends up a multi-billion dollar organization

[tshirtdiaperwearer]

@MyPersonalFavourites "We do not believe in Karma." Then why did you write, "and everyone will be awarded accordingly."? Call it divine justice or karma, you believe that actions will be rewarded or punished by a supernatural force. You still have given no good reason to believe in all the stupid shit you believe in. You just accept it based upon what some dickhead in the desert said. At least the christians think the messenger who told them crazy shit was god.

[double91trouble]

So yes I do believe that love is instilled into all of humanity, but it's God and His love for humanity that changes hearts and makes the difference. I guess what I'm trying to say is that God's love is on a different level than my natural love. :)

[double91trouble]

Since I do believe that God created us in HIS image (that being the essence of love) I see it as God being the general source of all love. It's interesting that even before I knew Jesus I had the ability to love people. I definitely expressed love to my family and friends, but it was limited and really just tainted with my own problems. In my communion with Jesus, His Holy spirit, who lives in me, gives me love, peace,. joy, kindness, etc. (Continue in next message)

[tshirtdiaperwearer]

@double91trouble Your belief is that people who do not know jesus have a "limited and really just tainted" love? That's rather insulting to the billions of people who have loved and not given a crap about jesus. I think what has happened to you is christianity told you that your love was inferior, and now that christianity says it has fixed you, it tells you your love is superior. That's the scam of christianity. It creates a problem, i.e. 'your going to hell', and offers itself as the solution.

[kingkyleatan]

what if the universe is a part of god.

[tshirtdiaperwearer]

@kingkyleatan Wow, were you smoking ditchweed in the woods behind your house when you came up with that cliche stoner wisdom? FYI, it is better to share that type of philosophy with the other members of your ghanja group, and leave it at that.

[double91trouble]

I like Strobel.  Solid video

[tshirtdiaperwearer]

@double91trouble If your a dude, make sure you don't like him to much or the bible will prescribe the punishment of death for your homosexuality. Also, whatever you do, don't think about lusting after him in your mind, because that thought crime magically becomes adultery, which is punishable by death in the bible. Also, always make sure that your liking of Strobel does not take away from your love of god, which must be greater that your love of anything or anyone, god is a jealous asshole.

[double91trouble]

@tshirtdiaperwearer haha thanks for the wisdom my friend! I love God and because of that he gives more than enough love for everyone!

[double91trouble]

@double91trouble I mean that he gives me the love to express to others. :)

[tshirtdiaperwearer]

@double91trouble So you are attributing the source of love to God? I would say that natural causes of love are available and turning to a supernatural force is unnecessary. I hope your belief would not cause you to reject natural explanations for the causes of love. My other concern is that if you view love as coming from god and not as an innate part of humanity, you might think that those who do not hold certain religious views are somehow cut off from experiencing love, a dangerous idea.

[tshirtdiaperwearer]

@MyPersonalFavourites Has this become, 'tell the infidel random facts about muslim beliefs?' Okay, so your god likes you to be clean, he tests you, he has a system of karma, and he puts souls in souped-up bodies. Did you give up on the god becoming man thing? Did you come to your senses and realize how stupid it is to make up a super powerful being and then impose limits upon him? For crying out loud, if you allow him to manipulate billions of human souls, let him walk on the earth as a man.

[tshirtdiaperwearer]

@MyPersonalFavourites I just thought it funny when you write, "Man eats and goes to the toilette why wd god come down to that." Hmm, didn't god create man? If poop grosses god out so much, why did he design us to be little poop factories? I mean, if god made us, he sure did put a lot of time and thought into our digestive system. Besides, if god ever wanted to become a man, maybe he could create a superior human body that doesn't really crap, only gives off the appearance of crapping.

[tshirtdiaperwearer]

@MyPersonalFavourites It all comes down to the book. This amazing entity, which you claim to know so much about, how does he communicate? With a book. You know what creature we KNOW writes books? Humans. So which most likely wrote the quran? How can he have a child without a consort? Well, lets look in that big, made up, book of multiple choice you have. Mary asks, "How can I have a son when no mortal hath touched me, neither have I been unchaste?" The lord saith, "IT IS EASY FOR ME".

[tshirtdiaperwearer]

@MyPersonalFavourites "If God makes children the child would be divine too!" You're saying god could have children if he wanted to, but he doesn't. His reason for not having these divine children is that these kids would be less perfect versions of himself and their numbers would confuse humanity. The evidence that god uses for this assumption of the evils of polytheism is ancient greece. Have you perhaps noticed how you constantly add new attributes to god, things that you don't really know?

[tshirtdiaperwearer]

@MyPersonalFavourites You also say that it is against gods nature to beget. Didn't god beget the universe, along with the humans, angels, and jinn? When you write god cannot beget, do you literally mean god cannot fuck? He is impotent and sterile? His dick don't work? He needs some viagra? He has a low sperm count? He has a narrow urethra? God is a dickless wonder?

[tshirtdiaperwearer]

@MyPersonalFavourites Now you are claiming to know the nature of god, that god cannot break his nature, and that becoming a man is against his nature. The particular 'natures' of god that are broken if he becomes a man are: god is one absolute unity that does not beget. So god can only be one person, like a human. The christian version of god is much more powerful, because he can be more than one person. Christian god can kick muslim gods ass. Maybe you both don't know what your talking about

[tshirtdiaperwearer]

@MyPersonalFavourites You write, "if God made the laws of space, time, energy, and matter then he cannot be subject to them" then you write, "everything is possible with god as long as it fits his creation." Do you not see the contradiction here? Lets go over it again. In order to claim that god created the universe you say that he is not bound by the rules of this universe, then, in order to claim that god cannot be a man you tell me that god can do things only within the rules of the universe

[tshirtdiaperwearer]

@MyPersonalFavourites You do realise that cum is a word for semen right? So when I said, "didn't need to eat food" it wasn't because I thought he was god, it was because he was eating so much semen that he didn't need to eat food. I guess if you consider semen food, I was inaccurate, but I don't consider semen food. You did not answer my question. Is god omnipotent? If he is omnipotent, why did you write, "god van[sic] never be a man." If god can never be a man then he is not omnipotent.

[tshirtdiaperwearer]

@MyPersonalFavourites Did I say muhmad was a god? There is no reason to think god exists. How can a man who is a liar be a man of integrity? Muhmad was a fucking liar saying he was a prophet. I also think people can believe what they want. Here is something to think about. You say god could never be a man. Is god omnipotent? If you think that god couldn't become a man, then you are saying god is not omnipotent. I can be a man. I am a man (sorta) right now. I can do something god can't do.

[tshirtdiaperwearer]

@MyPersonalFavourites Of course the people you name do not know what happened. Did you not fucking read where I wrote, "the answer as of right now is we don't know how the universe came to be", and "it is okay to admit you don't know something instead of saying god did it."  You accuse them of conjecture yet you are going around saying god created the universe? Are you a fucking joke? By the way, mohammed sucked thousands of dicks, he didn't need to eat food cause of all the cum he ate.

[tshirtdiaperwearer]

@MyPersonalFavourites You don't even make sense. "and it is true since we know we live in an expanding universe." What? If we are the product of chance that doesn't render our actions "vanity". Our actions still affect other people and ourselves and we have emotions.  Just because there is no god looking down judging our actions, or an afterlife to reward or punish our actions doesn't render our actions vain, because our actions do affect the people around us.

[tshirtdiaperwearer]

@MyPersonalFavourites Yes, we live in a universe and it is natural to want to understand how it all came to be. The answer as of right now is we don't know how the universe came to be. Filling in this lack of knowledge with, "god, a thing beyond time and space did it" is a god that exists to fill in gaps of understanding. It is not an answer, it is an illusion of an answer. It is okay to admit you don't know something instead of saying god did it, and it is okay if we are a product of chance.

[tshirtdiaperwearer]

@MyPersonalFavourites "How do you know that this thing you are giving all these powers to actually exists?" I never said the 'powers' were illogical. I asked how do you know that the thing that has these powers exists. You jump right over that question with, "suppose u beleive in god", and proceed to explain to me why giving super cool powers to this thing is perfectly logical. Supposing isn't a good enough reason to believe, and neither is because it happens to fill in gaps in knowledge.

[pooptypeuptypants55c]

@MyPersonalFavourites God the son was sent down to earth as a male human. most likely Jesus was a man cause 1 men came first 2 like i said men are given athaurity over women.

[ndrthrdr1]

The Discovery Institute is just a group of Christians trying to require the teaching of the Christian religion in public schools. Google "Discovery Institute" and look for scientific "discoveries" they have made. See what they really are doing? They aren't doing scientific research. To see the truth about evidence for evolution, Google Irrefutable Proof of Evolution- Part 1 (mtDNA, ERVs, Fusion)

[pooptypeuptypants55c]

God was not created but for a lack of better termenology God lives in a different demention. He is not constraned by time or the other laws of science. ergo He has always existed.

[tshirtdiaperwearer]

@pooptypeuptypants55c How do you know that this thing you are giving all these powers to actually exists? I can make up explanations for why things are to, but I don't believe them. For example, the reason I don't have a girlfriend is because the lesbian underground sprayed me with a pheromone they created which makes me unattractive to women. Good explanation but I don't believe it. Why would this thing be a 'he' as you call it? Does god have a dick? Did god fuck Mary with his dick?

[pooptypeuptypants55c]

@tshirtdiaperwearer its all about faith brother. God isnt nessesarily a male or female. men are just the supperior over women so we call Him He showing greater respect.

[tshirtdiaperwearer]

@pooptypeuptypants55c When you say, "it's all about faith" are you admitting there is no reason to beleive other than a warm and fuzzy feeling in your tummy. Why don't you have faith in Islam, Hinduism, Scientology, Mormonism? If all these people also have faith as their reason to believe, do you consider their beliefs to be wrong? If you think Hindu's are wrong, why, when their reason to believe is also faith. You think you are superior over women because you can beat most of them up?

[pooptypeuptypants55c]

@tshirtdiaperwearer having faith in God is not about emotion. if you have a relationship based on emotions, its doomed to fail. I dont have faith in any other religeon because they are not true. I have had every opprotunity to choose my own religeon but the only truth is Jesus. when i say all about faith I mean the FINAL evidence is not yet known. you need to have something covering the gap between evidences. same with evolution. it has not been tested yet so you have faith that it can happen

[tshirtdiaperwearer]

@pooptypeuptypants55c All evolution claims to be is the best expanation for the diversity of life on earth. Science is all about probabilities. Nothing is 100 percent for sure. Don't take this as a failing of science, it is a strength of science. Science has the strength to admit that it can be wrong, unlike religion, which stupidly claims absolute truth, like you and your "only truth is jesus" nonesense. Is the fossil record, not a test? Is the observed evolution of bacteria not a test?

[tshirtdiaperwearer]

@pooptypeuptypants55c Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. You do not get to make up bullshit and treat it as truth to make yourself feel better and go around like an asshole telling people you have absolute, 100% truth. Not being 100% sure about something IS NOT A DETRIMENT!!!!!!!! It is HONESTLY and CORRECTLY looking at the world you live in.

[tshirtdiaperwearer]

@pooptypeuptypants55c You say faith is not emotion, and you know jesus is truth, and you know other religions are not true. Please lay out for me your reasons for believing in jesus, and your reasons for believing that other religions are not true. thank you

[pooptypeuptypants55c]

@tshirtdiaperwearer I was(typically) born in a Christian home.Once I became a teenager I finally thought about what being a Christian meant. to be different than the rest of the world. to help when others wouldnt. but when you eventually fail, to know that you will be forgiven. God started to line up my life in ways that simply couldn't be coincidental. so I believe that Christianity is correct because it answers all questions I could possibly have, I don't belive the others because Christianity

[tshirtdiaperwearer]

@pooptypeuptypants55c So your 'reason' for believing is that things happened in your life that you don't think could be coincidental. Reading your other comments has already made it really obvious that you are a complete idiot, and that it probably wouldn't take to many ducks to line up in a row for you to throw in the towel and call it divine intervention. Oh, it answers all the questions you have? Probably cause no one in this world is depending on a tard like you to answer any hard questions.

[pooptypeuptypants55c]

@tshirtdiaperwearer CONT. OR Jesus says that Christianity is the Only way. That is why opraism and atheism is rediculous in my oppinion. the implications of atheism say that we are no better than a fly. if I kill you who cares. I do what I think is right and I'm my own boss. if you say that society is what creates moral values i will ask you was nazi germany right? there society said that it was fine to slaughter jews. thats why I dont believe in atheism.the only thing that has pure truth is God

[tshirtdiaperwearer]

@pooptypeuptypants55c Oh, you don't believe any other religions cause the one you were born into says the others are wrong? That makes a lot of sense. You know, all them other people, who were born into religions other than christianity? A lot of them would give the same reason for not believing in your magic sky man and his sidekick Reserection Boy. You know who cares if you kill me? The people who know and love me, and that is good enough for me.

[tshirtdiaperwearer]

@pooptypeuptypants55c Yes, do what you think is right and be your own boss. Even though you are a sexist, idiot, I would be willing to think you morals are BETTER THAN WHAT IS FOUND IN THE BIBLE. Society is what creates moral values, and the fact that nazi germany could justify what they did PROVES IT. If there was a god that enforced a moral code on humanity, then how could the nazi have done what they did? But if there is no god, and society creates morality, then nazi's become explainable

[pooptypeuptypants55c]

@tshirtdiaperwearer CONT... So in reality, atheism is a religeon. a religeon being something that is based in faith. to answer your question, I do not think that women are inferrior, but on an athoritative ladder, they belong under men. they have different responsibilities as men. diff ediquate. do you believe in equal rights? if so can I hit a girl? do women not get scholorships for being women, no I bet you wouldnt want me to hit a girl. its because girls are different than guys. see?

[tshirtdiaperwearer]

@pooptypeuptypants55c Your not allowed to hit a man either you fucktard!!! If a woman gets anything under affirmative action, it is because 1000's of years of fucktards like you trampling their rights. Most atheists, myself included, do not claim to KNOW that god doesn't exist like you theists claim to KNOW god exists. We just do not have a positive belief in the existence of a god. Are you able to comprehend that distinction? If atheism is a religion, then not collecting stamps is a hobby.

[pooptypeuptypants55c]

@tshirtdiaperwearer going out of your way to not collect stamps, and avidly keeping others from collecting stamps is a bit of a hobby. if society is what creates ethics, then its fine for me to hit a man. noone has ever said "dont hit him" "why" "hes a guy" "oh". you see what i'm saying? women are more fragile emotionally than men. dont lie to yourself. mentally, they usually stronger than men and physically, they are weaker. they have every right as men. but its not equal if they have more.

[tshirtdiaperwearer]

@pooptypeuptypants55c Did I fucking say, 'keeping others from collecting stamps', or 'going out of your way to not collect stamps' you straw man building piece of shit. Lets make this real fucking easy for a fuckwad like you to understand. Atheism is not accepting any religions as true, therefore it is not a religion. Collecting stamps is a hobby, therefore not collecting stamps is not a hobby. If you call atheism a religion, it is the same as calling not collecting stamps a hobby. 

[tshirtdiaperwearer]

@pooptypeuptypants55c In order to show me that equal rights for men and women is wrong, "do you believe in equal rights?" You asked me, "If so I can hit a girl?", with the implication being that if men and women had equal rights, you would be able to hit women. I pointed out that your logic is retarded with the simple truth that, IT IS AGAINST THE LAW TO HIT A MAN OR A WOMAN YOU FUCKWAD! Yes men and women are physically different, that doesn't mean they are below you on an "athoritative ladder"

[Pilotwing64]

Lee Strobel is a moron in idiot's clothing.

[ksthebest]

Lol very obvious biased debate. Lee Strobel is ignorant and did NOT become an atheist through gaining information. He almost even explains it himself.

[myco578]

what would i have said to him? i would have said that a watch is a non living object that cannot create succesive generations that evolve over time to become more complex watches.

[MaDsToRk80]

Ahh I see what you are saying and I agree.

[Fishqueen1972]

Belief in God is not a virtue.

[Fishqueen1972]

Why can't religion be private? Seriously, there would be no need for atheists speaking out if it wasn't for people like Lee Strobel. Intelligent Design is not science people. Give it up. Go to church & quit trying to make America a theocracy. We secularists will FIGHT you all till the end.

[lexigirl1aal]

@Fishqueen1972 even though i'm a Christian myself, i'll be the first to say that most of Lee Strobel's videos on most subject matters aren't very convincing (they're too short to really allow for either person to really make their case fully, and almost always one of the guest speakers has no clue what he's talking about... and its usually the CHRISTIAN.). However, i'm actually really curious as to what you think about the origins of the universe, and, if possible, why?

[Fishqueen1972]

@lexigirl1aal I will respond in a message because of the limit of characters.

[wildreams]

That is nothing new.. Creationist has been arguing from design since hundreds of years ago.

[MaDsToRk80]

@wildreams well duh what else would they be arguing?

[wildreams]

@MaDsToRk80 Don't think you are aware of what it means by "argument from design". Try wiki.

[MaDsToRk80]

@wildreams Well for one, wiki is not a reliably quotable source and my point is this: Christians believe that the universe was created by God, therefor it would not be logical for them to argue anything else "since hundreds of years ago." And please work on your grammar.

[wildreams]

@MaDsToRk80 Not quoting from wiki, just offering you a place to start. The video seems to suggest that "argument from design" is a new thing, which it isn't.

[grenangle]

Load of Old Cobblers