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  • Real testimonials said:

    British forces passed to El Alamein

    so departments Ariete and Forgore blocked in desert, without nothing.

    Would I like go to El Alamein for give a flower to all.

  • Italians and Germans lost the war!!!!! Italy's battle glory? WTF

  • fuck the info box is hilarious!!! but its probably translated by google

  • A) What in heavens name is the crazy in the info box?

    B) I think most of the "fighting" here is actually training footage, and not much of it either.

    C) The video sucks, because it misses a lot of points: it wasn't Hitler who wanted to go to North Africa - he was helping his clumsy ally Italy there; most of the fighting in North Africa was omitted, even the American part, and of course, Kasserine Pass was not even mentioneed...

    Its not good just because it is in color.

  • This video is the most stupid video i ever watched,it doesn't mention the Italians that were the majority of the axis in Africa.

  • if der furher just had been a bit more clever, then the germans would crush all of them !!

  • Don't wish to gloss over the detail, but you krauts seem to forget that it wasn't churchill shooting himself in a bunker days before london fell. In the final analysis, the nazi regime wiped out 6m jews and was eventually defeated. Difficult to salvage any credit from that.

  • Don't wish to gloss over the detail, but you krauts seem to forget that it wasn't churchill shooting himself in a bunker days before london fell. In the final analysis, the nazi regime wiped out 6m jews and was eventually defeated. Difficult to salvage any credit from that.

  • Everyone bitching about American historians, make your own history documentaries

  • ja Mensch ,ist ja doll wa ..also diese kleine doch zähe Deutsche Truppe da zu schlagen^^ die kein Nachschub und so 11 panzer am ende nur noch übrig hatte XD das 8 britische corp hat den amis an den "bestimmten" pass den hintern gerettet ,denn es drohte wieder das man überrollt wurde,wie es ja Rommel am Anfang machte ,da mussten die zur hilfe kommen.

  • Germans were not pushed back to Europe from Africa, they were all captured. The commentary is stupid.

  • Batner 112

    Die Finnen waren nicht so ein Land.Sie mit unseren Musolinie Ver. zu vergleichen

    dürfte für sie eine Beleidigung sein. Sie haben sehr tapfer gekämpft.

    Informier dich erst mal bevor du so einen Schwachsinn los lässt.

  • No matter your nationality or allegiance, the unescapable truth is that Nazi Germany had the most effective and best fighters. Hollywood Jew film makers are cracking me up with their recent batch of revenge fantasy movies. If only it had been 12 million.

  • thank you!

  • Eh-dolf Hitler LOL

  • Dont let yourself be manipulated by German snitchers trolling the internet searching for opportunities to bleach their Deutschland.German soldiers trying to evade fighting were hunted and assasinated till the last day. Concentration camp inmates were forced to march long distances. If they could not carry on they were murdered on the spot, the bodies left behind. Germans being seen as possible collaborators with the allies were systematically murdered.

  • Since my child hood I love and respect FM IrwinR ommel asdetails told me by my Grand father that how when whole commonwelth forces brigade captured by FM Irwin Rommel ,including my Grand father Rommel treated them with utmost respect, dignity and when german fell short of food to fed pows Rommel himself flew from Berlin He personally excused and let the pows fre with a salute,Heil Rommel.

  • You assholes needed two armys to crush Erwin Rommel

  • @Poglavnik008, Hi asshole, there were 2 Axis (combined German-Italian) armies in Tunisia. ~130,000 Germans & 120,000 Italians were in the final surrenders in May, 1943, & thousands were KIA, WIA MIA, & became POWs prior to the final surrenders. From the Brit. E.sAfrican Campaign of June, 1940 - 1941 & the N. African Campaign of 1940-May, 1943 ~ 855,000 or so Axis troops became casualtied, most of them POWs, & thousands of aircraft, tanks, AC's, SPG's, APC's, trucks, Arty. & AT guns, ships, lost

  • @christof139 Whe all now that the italians are cowords

  • @Poglavnik008 takes one to know one

  • @Poglavnik008, That is entirely wrong. Someday an Italian may box your ears off for you bieng an idiot. Google these Italian units, Folgore, Ariete, Littorio, Centuaro, La Spezia or Superga, Celere, Livorno, etc. Divisions.

    More USSR troops surrendered to the Germans than Italians surrendered to the Allies.

  • @Poglavnik008 Hahaha WELL SAID,WELLSAID,look what mighty allies did with poor iraqis,poor afghans,Heil FM Rommel.

  • stop talking about propaganda and stop discussing which is the better army, the americans WIN so they are BETTER! sorry guys but Rommel FAILED otherwise he wouldnt have LOST!

  • Typischer Propagandascheiß aus Amerika, So war es früher und so ist es auch noch heute. Haben diese Leute denn überhauptkeinne Ehre mehr?

  • The Germans' fighting withdrawal was very orderly and tenacious.

  • yeah i met some old man at the mall one day said he fought in North Africa

  • And Franco with his terrible and excited rifians in the north of Morroco, ... Certainly happy when he saw the end of Noguès. - "Lange genug war ich Amboss, jetzt will ich Hammer sein" said F. II Hohenstaufen. Myopic but he saw better than Hitler.

  • htfagrvey-Yeah, the US Army got its nose bloodied at Kasserine, but quickly learned and mastered combined arms, giving it back to the Afrika Corps ten fold. Monty was a master of logistics, thats why he won.The Germans seldom gave logistics its due in their planning. Read "Truppenfuhrung" for yourself, the German WW2 version of FM 100-5. Patton said it best "amatuers study tactics, Professionals study logistics". Truppenguhrung works for a country with limited resources, but not long term wars.

  • omg germany only invated in africa because the italians sucked in lybia..

  • @TheRedSkin2009 - Die Italiener waren wirklich die miesesten Verbündeten des Planeten. Entweder sie fielen den Deutschen Verbündeten in den Rücken (1. WK) oder sie nötigten die Deutschen ihnen aus der Patsche zu helfen und dann fielen sie ihnen in den Rücken (2. WK). Wer solche Verbündete hat, der braucht keine Feinde mehr.

  • @bavarikus

    ja so sind halt die meisten verbündeten.. wenn der eine niedergeht muss man sich schnell den alliierten anschließen um als "gut" zu gelten..

  • i feel dumber after watching this

  • Fuck the nazi pieces of shit...face it they lost the war and fucdolph hitler shot himself because he was a german pussy.

  • @DEEHARDONE you have to realize the 4 on 1 and how he held up . to be honest he was a fuckhead. but he truly was a monster in strategy.

  • Was the Big Red 1 a major factor in Africa?

  • I pooped my pants

  • Gen. Messe was the best the Italians had to offer in N Africa. His men were well led and fought well. Rommel sacrificed most of Messe's units so much of the Afrika Corps could successfully retreat from Mareth and Kasserine.

  • Has anyone read the info box to this video? There is some crazy rambling in there...

  • @whataboutredlorry

    lol, 100% correct.

  • map of 0:39 it seem to like France was Nazis.

    At that time France was L`Etat Francais commonly known Vichy France

    And Libya was Italian colony.

  • the american historians are only telling half the story they failed to tell you how rommel stomped the british army into the ground anmd don't forget kasserine pass where the americans failed horribly fuck these american historians

  • @htfagarvey So the praise the germans/italians receive in the video is not good enough for you? Also, this is just a small fragment of the whole documentary

  • @htfagarvey Nice the way you and the documentary clip skip the historical fact that General Bernard Montgomery and his 8th Army destroyed Rommel and his Afrika Korps in the greatest tank battle of the war at El Alamein. And to my late uncle Christopher who was there ,thank you from the bottom of my heart sir!!!

  • @Macangusagain With great struggle, despite having a force twice as large, one might add...

    In remembering a catastrophe such as WW2 one should perhaps mourn the tremendous losses the whole Europe had to endure, instead of reveling in the thought that his own nation won the war "destroying" the enemy...

    And while I'm sorry for your uncle, know that you are not the only one who lost relatives in the war. My great uncle Giampiero died in battle at the Mareth line in 1943, for example...

  • @htfagarvey

    Your comments are too bitter to matter.

  • @htfagarvey they always wana feed us bullshit :D

  • @Cobac

    Well if you had won the war you could write your on fucking Documentary... If they were not so busy killing innocent women and children the could have given us a better battle....

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  • @htfagarvey

    Btw... the winners get to write the books... So fuck you and the horse you rode in on Bitch!! I am American and proud of it.... We did not even want to be in that war.. Germans did not write history books b/c the Nazi bastards are dead!!. And in the future, when evil bastards like the Nazi's do evil things we will be back to kick more ass and write more books.... So Kiss my American Ass!!

  • @FLSmith4423

    lol how old are you, kid?

  • @htfagarvey OH, I guess Rommel is still in Africa today as Governor?

    Oh...that's right..he got his ass kicked and ran home leaving his troops to die and surrender to the allied forces...

  • @htfagarvey fuck you.

  • @htfagarvey Lmao, who gives a fuck, we won, you lost. Get over it.

  • @htfagarvey

    What do you expect? This is abundant in history; the winning side of a war claims it was the most noble side, fighting for the noble cause, victorious against an inferior opponent. IT is a way to make other nations fear them, to increase national pride, to make it clear that the country is dominant.

    You don't expect them to say, oh we won but we were fucked all over the place.

  • @htfagarvey - History is not only an analysis of the things that happened. Most times it is a description of what the winner wants people to believe.

  • @htfagarvey Not quite- the Yanks were trounced soundly at Sid Bou Zid but finally stopped the German advance at Kasserine.

  • @htfagarvey The Kessarine Pass was the only part of the campaign where the Americans failed. Also, the reason Rommel crushed Montgomery's forces first initially was because of superior numbers and machinery. By the time the British drew up reinforcements into Egypt from Australia, New Zealand, British India and the UK proper, they finally had enough men and equipment to push through and chase the Afrika corps all the way back through Egypt, Libya and into Tunisia.

  • @htfagarvey, Kasserine Pass was a small setback & in May, 1943 ~130,000 German & ~120,000 Italians surrendered in Tunisia with all their remaining equipment. In Nov., 1941 the Brit. Commonwealth 8th Army destroyed Rommle's furing t Operation Crusader. You are the stupid idiot, not the historians.

  • @christof139 should realize that the Nazis would lose the war. Northern Africa was only the beginning of defeat

  • @chicao532, Why are you saying this to me!??! I know more of the subject than most people on Boobtube, mainly because I am well read on the subject & am nearly 60 of age.

  • @christof139 I'm sorry. only expressed my opinion

  • @htfagarvey So true, the Aussies who beat Rommels army in Tobruk with barely any weapons is overlooked because of fucking american historians. Fuck.

  • @htfagarvey Spoken like a true ignoramus.

  • @htfagarvey D day is described as allied victory, how can you say that? quarter million amerikans were getting fucked on a beach by an outnumbered german force lacking ammo and petrol and air support, yet they killed twice they lost. the entire african invasion was an allied loss, rommel halted the "mighty" allied army on its tracks

  • @dividednation44 Hey, think about it this way, even if the germans didn't have that, they had bunkers, cannons, defenses. I think 1-2 is pretty good comparing that most of the invasion force was uncovered infantry, and germans had bunkers and all that.

  • @Iuuklilo it was no 1-2 germans had bunkers. but amerikans had: massive numbers massive air support artillery support naval bombardment while on the other hand the germans had untrained youth and kids defending their homelands massive lack of petrol and oil lack of trained troops few numbers largely lacking ammo having lost their factories at shwinefurt thats not good comparing......
  • @dividednation44 and the germans hade only been in war for 7 years hmmm wounder why they hade lack of that type of stuff?????

  • @88Tomm88 they had a lack of numbers. air planes and tanks

  • @dividednation44 Well, how much could artillery, wich was little, since getting it on land was hard job, air support, wich was small, due to that the nearest airbase was far away, naval bombartment wich was small, since the fleet had used their ammuniton before the attack, cause any heavy losses to the germans, and more nu,bers just means more stuff to shoot at.

  • @htfagarvey odd. My grandfather served with the desert airforce and never seemed to recall being "stomped into the ground".

  • @htfagarvey did you forget that germany lost the war? Oh i Guess thats not a big part for the allies or communists is it?

  • @RedDeadAintDead That makes no sense. And thats not what his comment was about, he was pointing out the bias in this. The British and American's were annihilated in North Africa. Only reason Rommel lost is because Hitler was an idiot and did not send him more tanks cause he thought invading the Soviets was a good idea.

  • @htfagarvey Of course it's always the victory side some write the history have always been and while always be.

    The allies special the USSR did make up many lies about the germans like hitler did say a lie some have been said 1000 times do always the people take the side of but the truth some have been said 1 time always takes as a lie.

  • @htfagarvey they also forgot to tell us about the great eastern front that took the better half of the fighting.

  • @htfagarvey American troops were beaten there, they were fresh troops, leadership was not the best one (the leader wasn't Bradley, Patton or Patch, just some other guy), and they faced very experienced axis troops. So, it was a defeat, but american generals analyzed the defeat and concluded that they had to improve their fight strategies, the coordination with aircraft and improve guns and tanks. Germans concluded quite the opposite: they just concluded that they were facing inferior troops.

  • @KronprinzAdam They concluded "amis" (americans) were inferior troops, but with curious equipment and accesories, and they could be beaten anytime. They also failed to exploit their initial victory. This was a big mistake, because allied troops increased in number, machinery and fuel and overwhelmed the axis in the Mediterranean and the Western Front. Germans just could divert there some divisions and leftovers from the Russian Front.

  • @KronprinzAdam If German hadn't of invaded Russia....things would have been much different. Before the US landed troops on the west coast, they didn't mention how long the Brits had fought Germany. One small country, versus France, Britain, Russia, US.....something to think about..

  • @1963Austria Germany simply didn't focused in attacking the UK, they invaded their main ally and supplier, the Soviet Union!! (Of course these invasions were madness, there was a high price to pay in human losses and suffering!!)

  • @htfagarvey Italians and Germans kickes ass at Kasserine pass.

    Forza Italia.

  • How many ppl HATE the new Recommended for You bar with its always-on Autoplay. It blows, Youtube. Stop it.

  • whats up with the cow at the end? weird lol

  • Yeah Patton won the War in Africa... not a word of the real foe Montgomery, normal U.S. probaganda but nice pictures

  • the italian soldier was'nt bad soldiers.but the militaery&politic leadership was terrible,and also the supplement by ammunition & arms.

    later under german controll the italians from the repuplic of salo(RSI) fights brave against the allies and the partisans also!

  • Lol i like how they just skip the whole time the brits were alone, and skip directly to the americans -.-

  • @Macebeard

    along with the Italian offensive into Egypt and their defence from the British counterattack. Typical biased documentary rubbish.

  • @HelmutVillam

    Yeah, its ridiculous!

  • ''Nur der Alpenkorps (Italienische Division!) können über den Boden von Russland in Betracht gezogen werden'' River Don - Russland Radio Funk !

  • This video sucks and shows nothing of the history of the North African war no Italy nothing on how Rommel kicked butt with only a 4th of the forces he faced. The truth is always different from the victor.

  • @Krylogenic

    Ain't that the truth!

  • Hmmmm, apparently there was no war in North Africa prior to El Alemain.

    *rolls eyes*

  • this is the same music on century of warfare

  • Rommel's DAK: Feb 1941

    2 panzer divisions

    1 motorized infantry division

  • Ehrlich geasgt ich finde das Video sieht voll nachgestellt aus, auch die Panzer der M5 Steward war wirklich kein ernster Gegner, selbst für den Panzer 3 nicht. Und das wir verloren haben ist auch nicht schlimm, im angesicht das wir Hoffnungslos in der Unterzahl waren und auch solche Trottligen Verbündeten dort hatten, die nicht hilfreich waren. Ich glaube wenn die Engländer in der Unterzahl gewesen wären, hätten sie es nicht besser gemacht!

  • @Batner112

    JA ITALIEN HATTE ECHT TROTTLIGE VERBÜNDETE ZUM BEISPIEL wie deutschhland ;)

  • @87ARIETE87

    Ja man hats allein schon in Afrika gesehen, dort haben die Italiener es einfach nicht fertig gebracht sich gegen die Engländer zu wehren. Wären die Deutschen unter Rommel NICHT eingesprungen hatten die Itaker gehen müssen und das sofort. Rommel hatte nur Pech das die Wehrmacht dort zahelnmäßig unterlegen war. Die Italiener waren schrott allein schon die Panzer waren untauglich von denen auch der Rest war hoffungslos unterlegen!

  • @Batner112

    ja das wir schlechte aurüstung hatten und nicht so gute waffen das stimmt aber unsere soldaten kämpften immer und an jeder front bis zum letzten ;) sie waren tapfer und hatten ehre obwohl sie wussten das sie in sachehn ausrüstung unterlegen waren =) kannst du das von einem anderen land auch sagen =)

  • @87ARIETE87

    Dann sag ich mal nur Österreich, Romänien, Finnland und Spanien. Die waren auch nicht so top ausgestattet und du vergisst das die Deutschen nach dem 1 Weltkrieg auch bei 0 angefangen haben in Sachen Ausrüstung, die Österreicher waren immer für die Deutschen, die Italiener hingegen sind abgesprungen auch im 1WK dort gings und Tirol das sie von Österreich haben wollten. Und gekämpf haben wohl die Deutschen am härtesten und nicht die Italiener!

  • @Batner112

    achso und diese länder haben also besser gekämpft xD ok weisst du was dein problem is ? du schaust nur auf die anderen weil dich italien nicht interessiert aber dein problem leb in deiner fantasy welt xD

  • @87ARIETE87

    Hat Italien etwas bis zum letzten Mann in einem total zerbombten Land gekämpft? Und selbst dann noch weitergemacht selbst wenn der Anführer schon tot ist? Ich schätze nicht! Du lebst in der Fantasiewelt, weil du nicht begreifen willst das Mann Deutschland bei jedem Weltkrieg die VOLLE Schuld gegeben hat und unser Land vollkommen ausgebeutet hat. Italien war immer fein raus, im ersten und 2.WK. DIe haben keine Reperationzahlungen leisten müssen!

  • @Batner112

    nö wir zahlen garnichs gel xD eheh wir zahlen wohl noch an die libyer geld du sponk ! kuck des mein ich nur DEUTSCHLAND im dummschädel und vom rest der welt null ahnung aber von euch vollpfosten gibts genug ;)

  • @87ARIETE87

    Deutschland zahlt nicht nur Geld wegen seiner ehemaligen Kriegverbrechen sondern auch Geld an diejenigen die vom Ausland kommen und in Deutschland neu anfangen wollen. Die haben nichts gezahlt bekommen aber sofort vom Deutschen Staat stütze also Harz 4. Andere müssen dafür min. 1 Jahr gearbeitet haben um Anspruch auf Harz zu bekommen. ;) du siehst WIR zahlen genug, soch was zahlt Italien? Ich schätze nicht das Italien was an Juden oder Ausländer zahlt XD

  • @Batner112

    ja gut integrationsgelder zahlen wir ja schon =) aber bringt sowieso nichs die integriren sich sowieso nich xD genauso wie sich die islamis in ganz europa nich integrien ...in deutschland ja sowieso nich xD armes deutschland ^^ alles rausgeschmissenes geld von dieser dummen demokratie und wir penner zahlen dafür xD deutschland zahlt obwohl sie schon 2billionen im minus sind ^^ ich versteh das nich ^^

  • @Batner112

    also meine eltern haben kein geld bekommen ;) die haben sich alles selbst aufgebaut =) du meinst vieleicht die deutsch russen mit wilkommensgelder nach deutschland oder das türken pack wo gerne 10 kinder macht und gleichzeitig noch von dem hartz 4 lebt !

  • @87ARIETE87 ..Que dijo???...what did u say??

  • @joshduvalin

    what will you by me?

  • @87ARIETE87

    Wenns von uns Vollpfosten keine geben würde, dann würdest du weder heute Auto fahren können noch Fliegen, oder hier so nutzlose Kommentare schreiben ;)

    Schau schön mit dir etwas diskutiert zu haben, jeder beharrt auf seinem Standpunk und bevor wir hier noch 2 weitere Seiten füllen machen wir jetzt schluss :D

  • @Batner112

    ich weiss das mercedes das auto erfunden hat ;) wie gesagt batner mein kopf is auch offen für andere länder nich nur für ITALIA ;) denn jedes land hat eine gute sache beigetragen ok;) civilisation rom <

  • @Batner112 - Ganz zu schweigen von der Tatsache, dass uns Italien als Verbündeter im 1. WK in den Rücken gefallen ist. Im 2. WK haben sie zuerst durch ihre dummen Husarenstückchen den deutschen Vormarsch in Russland ausgebremst, so dass Moskau nicht vor dem Winter genommen werden konnte. Und zum Schluss hat man schnell die Seite gewechselt. Da haben uns ja manche Feinde weniger geschadet als solche "Verbündete".

  • @bavarikus

    Ja aber Italien war nicht der einzige Schrottverbündete den Deutschland hatte. Finnland ist auch so ein Land 40/41 wurden sie ja fast von den Rotarmisten überrannt, dank uns haben sie Hilfe bekommen konnten die Roten schlagen, haben danach aber schnell die Seite gewechselt und gegen Deutschland gekämpft. Im 1 WK wars krasser da wollte Italien erst Südtirol von den Österreicher damit sie mitmachen die Entente hat ihnen das gleich gegeben darum waren sie im 1.WK auch gegen uns !

  • @87ARIETE87

    sagt dir die italienischhe sozial republik was ? less dir das erst mal durch bevor du so gross reden tust ;) denn mussolini ist erst abgesprungen wo die partisanen ihn erhängt haben ! haha jaja wir nich so hart gekämpft ey komm labber keine scheisse du neider !

  • @87ARIETE87 Und noch was zu deinem Mussolini, als er von den Partisanen erhängt worden ist hat schon das ganze Land einen anderen Weg eingeschlagen, weil man Angst hatte zu verlieren und zahlen muss. Also hat man ihn gestürzt und sich an Allierte rangehängt um fein raus zu sein. Und das nennst du Partnertreue,Ehre und Tapferkeit. Schau selbst die Österreicher haben länger mitgemacht als die Itaker!

  • @Batner112

    bist du dumm oder machst du nur so?sagt dir die italienischhe sozial republik was ?< less dir das erst mal durch bevor du so gross reden tust ;) denn mussolini ist erst abgesprungen wo die partisanen ihn erhängt haben ! haha jaja wir nich so hart gekämpft ey komm labber keine scheisse du neider ! zum 2ten mal du depp geschichte lernen dann du verstehen mehr du capisce ?

  • @Batner112

    also wenn du in der deutschen schule warst dann müsstest du eigt. kapieren was ich geschrieben habe....oder naja es gibt auch menschen die von natur aus behinderten schaden haben ....trifft das auf dich zu ?

  • @87ARIETE87

    Ich glaub du willst es einfach nicht checken, tja es gibt auch Leute die Rennen mit einer Art Wand im Hirn rum und wollen die Wahrheit halt nicht wahrhaben. Da kann ich auch nichts machen, ich glaube behindert bist nur du, der glaub das Italien Weltmacht war. Italien war nie was und wird es auch nie werden. Deine Sozial Republik war nur im Norden aktiv im Süden Italiens hatten die nichts zu melden.

  • @Batner112

    haha ich sag nur RÖMISCHES REICH !! da waren die germanen ja auch besetzt ....bis der herr von cherusker meinte die römer zu verraten gel ! verräter schweine !

  • @87ARIETE87 Und noch was bevor du andere Beleidigst lies doch er mal selbst. Mussolini wurde bereits 1943 vom Rat abgewählt und verhaftet. Und am Schluss hatte er keine Gefolgsleute mehr keiner hat noch einen Befehl von ihm angenommen. Sein eigener Schwiegersohn war sogar im Rat der ihn absetzte. Und nach der Operation Husky von den Allierten wollte der Rest natürlich auch zu denen und hat sich angeschlossen. So nix mit bis zum Ende gekämpft!

  • @Batner112

    man merkt wieder wie viel ahnung du hast xD naja für so vollpfosten wie du verschwend ich nich meine zeit peace ;)

  • @87ARIETE87 Jap der Vollpfosten hat mal mehr Ahnung als du sie je haben wirst. Siehs ein Italien könnte nie einen Krieg führen und ihn so lange führen wie die Deutschen. Vorallem unser Know-How ist einfach überall Düsenmotor von Me 262 und Raketen von Werner von Braun, Erfinder des Motor usw. Und heute bekommt Kanada, Australien und mehrere andere Leopardpanzer von uns :)

    Siehs ein oder lass es bleiben und behalt deine Mauer im Kopf!

  • @Batner112

    ''der deutsche soldat hat die welt beeindruckt, der italienische SOLDAT hat denn deutschen soldaten beeindruckt '' Erwin Rommel El Alamein 1943 ! Nord Afrika!

  • @Batner112

    ''Die Reste der Division Folgore (italienische division afrika) haben über jede Grenze der menschlichen Möglichkeiten widerstanden`` London Churchhill ;)

  • @87ARIETE87

    Naja was reden wir da, es ist Vergangenheit, scheiß drauf wer jetzt besser war ;)

    Schließlich haben wir in den letzten 60 Jahren keinen Krieg mehr begonnen und das soll auch so bleiben. Schließlich ist auf diesen Krieg auch die anderen zurückzuführen, Korea, Kalter Krieg, Vietnam, Golfkrieg usw. ohne den 2 Weltkrieg hätte es wohl auch keine DDR gegeben.

    Wie man in Deutschland schon immer gesagt hat: "Jedem das seine!"

  • @Batner112

    naja wir europäern müssten ja normal zusammen halten gegen diese islamis weisst ja schon was die vorhaben ne ? aber anscheinend sind wir europäer doch zu dumm uns gegenseitig zu verstehn ^^.....naja wenn es so weiter geht redet ganz ezropa in 50jahren arabisch ^^ und i-wann gibts keine europäer mehr ;)

  • @87ARIETE87

    Die Islamis wie du sie nennst kann man nicht besiegen, nicht wenn man sie zu uns reinlässt und sie dort wohnen und ihre Kultur ausüben lässt. Die treffen immer in alte Wunden. DIe kannst du auf Kriegerischem Wege nicht besiegen da sie sonst auf beleidigt und einen auf arme Opfer vor der UN machen würden. Und weil wir uns das Bild des Faschisten nicht mehr geben wollen, haben wir keine Chance! Zum Römischen Reich sag ich nur das es vor 2000 Jahren war das ist 2x das 3.Reich

  • @Batner112

    zu welcher sorte gehörst du denn links oder rechts ?

  • @Batner112

    ''Nur der Alpenkorps (Italienische Division!) können über den Boden von Russland in Betracht gezogen werden'' River Don - Russland Radio Funk !

  • You're right. This production is total crap. No mention of the Italians in east Africa since 1936, the French and Vichy in the west, the British in Egypt. The color film is great, but the writers/producers are sorry.

  • don't say that you jabroni

  • yes,history lesson for americans..

  • exactly, this vido sucks.

  • In North Africa there was the italian troops too and very often the england's historian forget this. Although the deficiency about materials and supplies the italian and german was very die to hard. In addition there was a disproportion numerically about men, tanks and cannons favourable to Allies.

  • The Italians had a dictator that wanted to be also a comandant! but they were brave soldiers with no weapons and equipment. They went to Russia with the same dresses used in Africa and didn't CHANGED SIDE BECAUSE AXIS BECOME WEAK.

    In Italy there was a dictature! But italians were glorious people also in a terrible situation like a war that they never could win!

  • they planted 3 million land mines there. mother fukers

  • Some useless arguments up in this mofo!

  • What does anyone "suspect+hope" ?!?!

    "Alliance" with italian troops !?!?

    LOL !!!

    there were just a "load" for germany+ nothing more ...

    the ,so called "Duce",just provocated more conflicts,

    in greece,africa,former jugoslawia+more,where the germans weren't "interested",at all ...

    "Truth can be hard to bare" !!!

  • @Kammler03

    pheraps if hitler losen't the time to kill the juden and 20 milions more people was better.

    Why Himler has request the peace at the 1943? Why gen von Thoma sourrended at el alamein? why montgomery wasen't able to win against the 42 km of the paratroups lines of folgore and, 3500 lions against 50.000 men and 600 tanks and he has attaked the german tanks lines to pass? why you wasen't able to win at stalingrado and italinas alpini were able to won agains red army ?

  • I'm sorry for you but Rommel had more Italians than Germans under his command.

    You know who held the first line at El Alamein? 7th bersaglieri in the north and Folgore in the south; in other words ITALIAN troops.

    Same goes for many other battles (Tobruk, Mechili, Mersa Matruh ecc...); also it was always the Italians who covered the retreat both in Africa and Russia, fighting to the death despite the lack of equipment, weapons and supplies

  • @PickBit

    Si Pickbit dici benissimo anzi se non erro, all'atto dello svolgimento della seconda battaglia di El Alamein gli italiani numericamente, rispetto all'Afrika Korps, erano anche di più; ma al di là di questo ho spesso ravvisato nella storiografia inglese una totale sufficienza, indifferenza, se non addirittura sprezzo, riguardo alle truppe italiane in questa battaglia.

  • @PickBit

    yes it is! onore ai caduti soldati italiani ! FOLGORE !

  • @87ARIETE87

    yes honor to the Italian soldiers - Shame on this film not mentioning the Italians at all- Libia was an Italian Colony , to be more specific was from 1938 integral part of part of the Italian territory and no longer classified as a colony in the same way that was Algeria for France

    daniusaitaly

  • @PickBit

    Where the italian contingents at the eastern front supplied by the wehrmacht or where they autarkic by self italian supply? ?

  • yeh but italians dont count because they changed sides when they were gunna lose sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo­ooooooooo woopy... aussie troops lead the way

  • @immature1992 Aussie troops dont count because they always get used as cannon fodder by an overseas power halfway around the world in a war that doesnt concern them.

    Realllll smart not.. whist the Poms are drinking tea.

  • @FGalaxie hmm and what country do you suppourt?

  • @immature1992 Europe

  • @FGalaxie you serious.... so sorry.... i wont drag this on ;)

  • @immature1992 do what u want

  • @PickBit tut mir leid für dich aber du hast einfach keine ahnung

  • @derdavorn and why use german? You hope I won't understand what you say? How very clever and correct of you.

    Tut mir leid fur dich but what I say is historical evidence, so I'm afraid the one who hasn't the slightest clue about this is you...

    Gute nacht. :D

  • @PickBit my grandfather told me that the most of the Italians would instantly surrender, most of them didn't want to fight.

  • @PickBit You say it as if you are proud....

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  • @PickBit Italian is one of the worst army of World War II that can be seen during the opening of Invasion of Egypt.

  • @VIadmirLenin People should really start reading the discussions they want to take part in instead of just answering single posts randomly...

    My post was an answer to the anti-italian bullcrap of some ignorant fool, I did never deny the fact that italy achieved few victories in WW2 on her own.

    How can men who have to live in the desert with a quarter of liter worth of water a day win battles when they have to fight tanks with molotov cocktails? I was speaking of valor not effectiveness...

  • @PickBit easy there woppy

  • @Kammler03 yes a burden/load. Hitler "double crossed" Mussolini by declaring war BEFORE Italy was ready.

    They had poor arms...no motorised vehicles. Still despite being hopelessly outgunned they actually held the line for the germans to escape at El Alamein.

  • @oneleggedtog

    thats sure over 90% of the supply get lost by destroying the supplyships

  • Hitler hätte Elba besetzen müssen. Die itlaenischen Truppen waren viel zu schwach.

    Bei Tobruk kam das "AUS"

    Stragediemäßig kann ich niemals keinen 3 Frontenkrieg gewinnen.

  • @Annavanta

    die Italiener konnten nie was, was war der dank, dass wir sie wirtschaftlich und militärisch erheblich unterstützt hatte. sie verrieten uns und vielen unseren Soldaten in den Rücken und kämpften gegen sie. die waren die schlechtesten verbündeten. alle anderen ungarn, rumänen, finnen usw. hatten ehre und waren tapfer.

  • Der Rückfall kam aber erst ,als Mussolinie und der Fatischmus weg waren und die Amis Kreta besetzten. Die italienischen Truppen taugten nichts. Ich weiß nicht warum, mangels Fähigkeit oder Ausrüstung oder Moral? Obwohl sie zahlenmäßig überlegen waren.

  • My father was on the Eastern Front , and when Italy capitulated,they arrested the Italian soldiers. Only the Fascist Party members were allowed to go on with the fighting. The Italians were the worst allies of the Germans.

  • @stefalbert

    himler request the pax with the americans in the 1943. Before Mussolini was arrested. Germans are only war criminal, you wasn't able to win at stalingrado. Allong the Don river the german lines were destroied, italians not. We were surrounded by red army, but we was able to walk for 700 km at -40 C, fighiting metere after meter, without food. You have called the alpini the miracle division.

  • @stefalbert Yes, but they were sent to fight with totaslly inadaquate weapons.

    Remember that Hitler declared war against the wishes of the Duce.....who needed time to build. Italy was not ready

    2. Italians did not want to fight for a racial war. We did not kill civilians or Jews either.