Arnold Schoenberg and Mozart

[redhavok666]

I love hearing the reflections and interpretations of original composers and even arrangers. As all people interpret music different to a certain degree it's interesting to hear it how they heard it and think about it in a similar fashion. An open mind never hurt anybody.

[dop216]

non ci puo essere nulla che lega un genio come mozart a un pazzo come Schoenberg

[luigiperso]

wow, beautiful video....I wrote my earlier comment before seeing it in it's entirety. Never saw before rare footage of Schoenberg....thanks for posting!

[luigiperso]

I was a rock guitarist. I became so dissatisfied by popular music teaching methods that I bought Schoenberg's harmony book and studied well it for a good two thirds. I never looked back since then. As a self-taught, I was not able to progress further but I learned very solidly all the foundations of harmony and I keep studying. Schoenberg's book was and is a real music education for me. Now I am getting composition lessons from a composer and he told me that I am his most advanced student!

[dachmty]

Modern German Music, I meant.

[dachmty]

Well... yes. that was a documentary. But actually the nazis banned Schoenbergs music. They considered all german music entartete kunst, degenerate art. The music actually played by the nazis in the concentration camps WAS indeed Schubert, Brahms, Beethoven.

[vitovito1234]

Once a saw a documentary (one of the many) about the german concentration camps (they can allow themself to build such places because they are supposed to be so "superior" and "intelligent" and "civilised").. The music in backround was a atonal/serial string quartet. What a combination!!! What a result!!! Definately that music couldn't have been a "love ssong" or a Chopin Prelude!!! Atonal music was the perfect medium to "illustrate" the "BEAUTY" of a concetration camp or of the "HUMAN MIND"....

[TheEarlOfDublin]

it seems like you are the type of person who freely associates things in their mind in which every way justifies their childish emotional responses. the people who commit atrocities use the same thinking patterns as you do

[GreggaryPeccary]

What is that at 0:57?

[GerSHAK]

A scherzo for string quartet. He intended it for his string quartet "op. 0", but his then-teacher Zemlinsky urged him to compose an interlude instead.

[GreggaryPeccary]

And I thought it was by Mozart.... "Damn, that's the first thing by Mozart I like!"

[chopinandliszt]

Try Mozart's "early modern" piano pieces, K574, K475.

[somecallmeRudy]

Nice video. Shame I can't understand most of what he's saying. Which I knew German so I could read the subtitles.

[somecallmeRudy]

The subtitles are in German and I can't understand his English. Thus I wish I could read the German subtitles.

[GreggaryPeccary]

Yeah, I got that. I can understand his English. Perhaps because I speak German, too. Dunno...

[HenanSax]

Thanks for the Video!

The Best!!

[p0lyph0ny]

Who is playing the Op11 Nr1 starting around 3:34 in the video? It is a really beautiful and sensitive interpretation.

[p0lyph0ny]

...never mind, I just noticed that the video credits all the musicians at the end of the -- the pianist is Markus Hinterhäuser.

[p0lyph0ny]

Glenn Gould recorded Mozart's Piano Concerto No24 and Schoenberg's Piano Concerto Op42 on the same album. One of the single most inspired album combinations IMO....

[Beethoven1063]

Don't forget that Schoenberg is a Germany composer,a real Germany musician.yes ,that's the same as Bach,Mozart,Beethoven.

How can you say that his music is not music!

It 's your problem,not his .

[GreggaryPeccary]

Austrian. As was Mozart. Same language, different country

[Alysson03]

Definitively.

[jeanjulesmarc]

i read "style and idea", i assume that schoenberg is a master,but i don't like to listen his music, it's a question of taste.

I think i'm not an idiot. there are also stupid fans

[filsuf]

It is a question of "conditioned taste". Can you appreciate a Chinese opera as much as you appreciate Carmen? Most probably not. Ask a Chinese the question, you get a reverse answer. Now, whose taste is better and more intellectual?

Schoenberg must be appreciated from understanding the problem that he wants to solve.

[alleycat525]

Not only one of the greatest teachers, in my opinion belongs up there with Mozart and Beethoven as a composer, at least in terms of his genius

[gnolti]

Fantastic video, with the great man's comments plus live footage plus music clips. Thank you.

[Erudecorp]

"I can really contend that I owe very very much to Mozart. And if you establish for instance by the way in which I have for a string quartet, then one cannot deny that I have learned this directly from mozart. And I'm proud of it."

[nibelungensohn]

If he were still alive today I would bug him everyday until he gives in and teach me theory and composition. People might have different opinions about his music but not one will disagree that he was one of the greatest teachers of composition ever. He was an exceptional man.

[luigiperso]

truly. I myself have not the skills to listen to his music,but I have always profoundly admired him and his music. I am just a rock guitarist and keyboardist,yet I have learned so much from his 'Theory of Harmony' and another beautiful book, 'Style And Idea'.

Shoenberg's thoughts about any aspects of art,are always remarkable and intelligent. A genius and unique teacher.

[nibelungensohn]

Great books, aren't they? His ability to boil things down to their essence is remarkable. Also, youtube: "A Survivor from Warsaw" and "Gurrelieder." I defy anyone who try these and not like them or at least get something out of them.

[bjedwards]

is there any more to this video?

i found this very inspiring.

Thank you

[baltio]

I second gsaxy's comment. Thank you!

[gsaxy]

thank you so much for this great video about this exeptional man...!

[WieniawskiH]

exceptional man!He's overestimated!This ISN'T MUSIC!!!

[daro77]

That you don't understand it, it doesn't absolutely mean, that it is not music.

[isaacplaysbass]

if he's overestimated, how do you explain the hundreds and even thousands of musicians and composers still influenced by him today? you're an idiot.

[luigiperso]

Not just an idiot,but an ignoramus,too. I am a rock musician,and I well know how relevant is Shoenberg's music and the man himself.

And I listen to his influence in a lot of really good movie soundtracks.

Maybe that idiot should read 'Theory Of Harmony' or 'Style And Idea'. No doubt will transform himself in a intelligent fella.

[isaacplaysbass]

i also assume that your comment that "this isn't music" refers to his 12 tone and atonal works. in which case you are ignoring his body of tonal music. and prove further that you are an idiot.

[p0lyph0ny]

WieniawskiH - What gives you the right to dictate to the youtube masses what is and is not music? Maybe you don't enjoy/appreciate this music, and that's your prerogative, but that doesn't mean it's not music.