Presidential Primaries & Caucuses: Unfair Beauty Pageants for the Media?

[sensfaninohio]

Authorizing Tax-Funded Abortion: On April 12, 2006 Romney signed Massachusetts' government health care plan that from the start has provided taxpayer funds even for what are called "elective" abortions, killing unborn children without even the facade of the typical though invalid medical excuses common in tax-funded abortion laws.

Sources: The Boston Globe "Joy, worries on healthcare" April 13, 2006 -- Mass.gov Health Connector website PDF - cc_benefits1220_pt234.pdf

[sensfaninohio]

Pro-Life ... REALLY?? In an August 21, 2007 interview Romney stated if a state wants to kill unborn children, that's fine with him.

prolifeprofiles (dot) com/audio/mitt20070821olympic-­double-flip-belly-flop(dot)mp3

[DecepticonSpike]

I think having all the primaries on the same day would be a good idea. During the last primary, by the time my state got to vote, i had to change who I supported two times.

[SacredSocietyAP]

Ron Paul is 110% electable.

[TravistheHuman]

Here in Maine the last person to jump into the GOP gubernatorial caucus won the nomination. He was not the media's pick at all.

[Kris246zl]

Who's Mitt Romney? I don't know this name. I only know two names. Cain and Paul and the latter can go f- himself. 

[dowder6]

@Kris246zl Your comment oozes with stupidity.

[Kris246zl]

@dowder6 Yer a towel.

[theylied1776]

I don't understand why so many of you republicans don't like Mitt Romney? He's your guy, your new Ronald Reagan.

[sensfaninohio]

I didn't vote for McCain. I won't vote for Romney. And unless Herman Cain gets the GOP nomination ... this will be 24 years that the GOP has lost my vote because it KEEPS PUTTING IN RINOs! What no one sees is that a vote for someone like McCain or Romney is just a "slow vote" for someone like Obama -- meaning the direction is still the same, just we are getting there being driven by grandma in her LeSabre instead of getting there driven by a NASCAR driver ... anyone the DNC puts up!

[leeuniverse]

@sensfaninohio Then you're a fool.... McCain was too liberal, but Romney is not at all save maybe 1%. He's not in any way a RINO, that is liberal lies stupid conservatives like you fall for, misrepresenting him. Further, to show your stupidity you would INTENTIONALLY allow Obama to win, thus for certain destroying this country rather than voting for someone who's only a SMALL degree like Obama, whether true or not. That makes you dumb, wanting this country destroyed. Makes you liberal!

[sensfaninohio]

@leeuniverse - A fool? I strongly suggest you do your homework ... then get back to me. Obamacare is BASED on Romneycare! Romney's own brand of socialized medicine for Massachusetts is now the MODEL for what is being spread to all 50 ... or is it 57states?! Socialized medicine = SOCIALISM. Last time I looked, that was not a GOOD THING! So put aside your ridiculous "you can't vote for anyone other than a GOP RINO" garbage - it's YOU who are destroying this nation by being IGNORANT to the truth!

[leeuniverse]

@sensfaninohio Sorry, you're a fool for following liberal propaganda instead of actually knowing the facts. Obamacare was not modeled after Romneycare, any more than airplanes were modeled after cars. Similarity's do not make the same. Again, watch Romney's health care presentation in Michigan over on C-span and actually learn some actual truth and facts, instead of swallowing the bearing false witness. Or are you really a moron like Perry believing Romney hired illegals when he didn't?

[sensfaninohio]

@leeuniverse - Liberal propaganda? And you call me a fool? In past campaigns for Governor of Massachusetts & U. S. Senator, Romney has been FOR gun control, FOR abortion, FOR socialized medicine, FOR same-sex marriage, and FOR amnesty for illegal aliens. He says, NOW, that he has changed his views on all of those issues. Really?

If anyone here is the fool, it's anyone who claims on his YouTube channel to hate bullies, then goes around calling others "fools." Nice hypocrisy you have going there!

[leeuniverse]

@sensfaninohio You lie and misrepresent him and those issues..... I know because I've looked at your lies, and I've sought out the actual truth. Calling a bully a fool is not me being a bully, it's calling you what you are. Sorry, no hypocrisy, thus more evidence of your lack of judgment and comprehension skills.

[sensfaninohio]

@leeuniverse - I lie? Really ... Romney from 2002 "I will PRESERVE and PROTECT a woman's right to choose, and am devoted and dedicated to honouring my word in that regard."

How about this from Romney's own lips again: "But my view is that those 12 million who have come here illegally should be given the opportunity to sign up to stay here..."

Shall I go on? I can! You've yet to cite a single thing - just call names and spout YOUR opinion - not fact!

[sensfaninohio]

I would post the video links as irrefutable proof, but YouTube does not allow links to be posted inside of comments so do a YouTube search for Romney on Abortion - 2002 from OpenSourcePolitics and Mitt Romney: Supports Amnesty For Illegal Immigrants from BillHemmer1964. The first is a 2002 Gubernatorial Debate - the second is from Meet The Press.

Now ... FOOL ... I will not hold my breath in waiting on your apology because I can clearly see you "think" you know everything. Wrong!

[leeuniverse]

@sensfaninohio So what? If Ronald Reagan was running today you would be doing the same to him, and other than Lincoln, he was our best and most conservative. Like Romney, he was personally against abortion, but believed people had a choice. He changed, I changed, Romney changed. Romney wouldn't have gotten Pro-Life awards if he was really pro-abortion. Thus, you lie. Reagan did the same thing, people already here illegally, they should have the opportunity to get legal as anyone else.

[sensfaninohio]

@leeuniverse - Incorrect, Mr. Liberal Bully. Reagan was conned into voting for Amnesty. It was not a "change of heart" or of policy. And I am still waiting on your proof, especially of this "pro life" award. So where's the proof? All I see is - yet again - YOUR opinion. Not a shred of evidence! And don't go to his own website ... that's just as bogus as you are being anything but a RINO-loving supporter of a RINO - a liar - a scammer who thinks Christians will fall for anything!

[leeuniverse]

@sensfaninohio Anyway, there is fact, and then there is truth. Using fact to lie is still lying. It's perfectly normal for someone to believe in "freedom" at a public level concerning abortion, and then to change. It's perfectly normal for a person to be charitable and believe illegals should get in line, and have the chance to be legal, on and on. Shall I go on? Every issue, I will show you how you misrepresent thus LIE about Romney, even clear lies, such as the hired illegals claim.

[sensfaninohio]

@leeuniverse - Believe in freedom at a personal level and what?? Oh you did not just go there! This just shows that Romney is a LIAR in the worst form - to his own beliefs!! If he really is "personally" for freedom then sells out his public, that is what we already have in Washington Dork Central ... 500+ sell-outs! Even if I can't approve of EVERYTHING Ron Paul stands for, at least I know he doesn't back-peddle like YOUR man has and like I showed IN HIS OWN WORDS which you still can't deny!

[leeuniverse]

@sensfaninohio So you're calling me & Ronald Reagon a "liar in the worst form", we who also used to once be against abortion personally, but for public freedom of choice for abortion, then realized that the duty of the state was to protect life, thus changed our views to be against public freedom for abortion??? Our beliefs never ultimately changed, we were always personally against abortion. What changed is our level of "tolerance" of "freedom" for public choice in relation to abortion.

[leeuniverse]

@sensfaninohio Bottom line, there's basically NOTHING liberal about Romney. What little there was before, does not exist. Abortion bills came before him as Gov, he vetoed them, changed his beliefs concerning public freedom on the issue. He had a health care problem in his state, he looked for ways to solve it, some things were put in he didn't want, some things he would do different. But he worked to fix a problem, and it did, a Private sector solution, not the LIE that it's Obamacare.

[leeuniverse]

@sensfaninohio He has experience with company's the laws & regulation problems, on and on.... Do you want someone who's learned and have experience, or someone who just acts like he's perfect and has all the answers? Does Cain have Romney's depth of experience, anyone else? NO. So what he improved some of his views! There's hardly a dang thing liberal about him otherwise, other than direct lies. Fact is, he's the most qualified for the job conservatives shouldn't be acting like liberals.

[tsilb]

You guys gonna put a more meaningful and searchable title on this video? :)

[tgoyer]

@tsilb "trifectawhittle" tells me all I need to know. Trifecta with Bill Wittle. That is all I need to know to nearly wet myself in excitement (not quite to Chris Matthews level of excitement, but close).

[tsilb]

@tgoyer All I'm saying is that PJTV usually puts descriptive titles on their videos, and this one looks like a filename. Bill Whilttle has been in every Trifecta.

[tgoyer]

@tsilb I know. I was being funny. :) :)

[v12tommy]

Oh god, please don't let either Romney or Perry win. I would like to see either Herman Cain or long shot Buddy Roemer win, although Roemer supports those #occupy idiots, so my support is moving further and further towards Herman Cain every day.

[Siegetower]

"My two partners in thought-crime" LOL awesome.

[Winky395]

They are going to give us the same choices we had in 08

commie vs commie

They dare not allow a true Conservative to run.

[leeuniverse]

@Winky395 I really wish people like you would stop bearing false witness of other conservatives. Not a single conservative in this race is even close to "McCains" level of liberalism, and yet he was still a conservative, just too liberal. The current batch, not a single one is even close to McCains liberalism. Of course, people like you lie & misrepresent Romney's actions & views, trying to make him liberal when he's not, completely ignoring the facts & clarifications made on those issues.

[Winky395]

@leeuniverse

OK little guy answer one question:

will old liberal establishment rino Mitt

repeal Obamacare?

Case closed.

Mitt is the only one they are going to allow us to vote for.

Unless we repeal Obamacare not just stymie it in the courts, our nation is lost.

[leeuniverse]

@Winky395 Okay "little" ignorant.... YES.... He will repeal Obamacare, he's said it a million times. Do you even read and watch anything other than Alex Jones? You might want to educate yourself for a change.

Watch this video and learn how smart he actually is compared to your brainwashing, and what he did, does, and will do.

c-span org/Events/Former-Gov-Mitt-Rom­ney-R-Remarks-on-Health-Care-P­olicy/10737421499-1/

Romney is not "establishment", he's not a RINO, nor liberal STOP LYING!

[Winky395]

@leeuniverse

So you want me to return here in five years

and say: "I told you so"

When Obamacare still hasn't been repealed?

[leeuniverse]

@Winky395 Sure, but you won't be saying it... The only way Obamacare might not be repealed is if conservatives don't pick Romney as Pres, & Cain VP (if they pick someone else we might lose), and if we don't get conservatives ruling in Congress and the Courts.

Liberalism entitlement mentality has so permeated this society now, I worry though what's coming. Conservatives are going to need to be properly educated and fight even harder to change minds. Your kind of ignorance doesn't help either.

[Winky395]

@leeuniverse

"Liberalism entitlement mentality has so permeated this society now"

with more socialism the inevitable result. As for you, just keep on believing

that the Republican establishment is any different than the left.

[leeuniverse]

@Winky395 Unlike you, I'm actually educated and can discern the differences between the two. You you're swayed by all propaganda, having no ability to see beyond either for the actual truth. Easy to prove that they are different. Didn't every Republican vote against Obamacare, didn't every Dem vote for it? You can't be a moron and say they are the "same" just because certain Republicans on rare occasion have been lightly liberal. Some Dems are litely Conservative you going to condemn them?

[leeuniverse]

@Winky395 It balances out.... to where the two sides are still completely opposite. The two sides exceptions to the rule don't make the rule, i.e. them both the same. I'm a Republican, and I'm sure as hell not a liberal moron. And most other Republicans are exactly like me, including the ones in leadership, thus I know for a fact they aren't liberal. Ultimately, it's completely false for you to say that they are the same, they aren't. It's always been liberals as the big problem.

[leeuniverse]

@Winky395 Bottom line, you don't know how to dicern anything and anyone. If Reagan was around today, you would be accusing him of being a liberal, just as you do Romney. Reagan changed is views on abortion, he was a Govenor of a state, wasn't perfectly conservative, was a corporate shill... all the same things you accuse Romney of, yet Reagan other than Lincoln was our most Conservative president, one of the Fathers of Conservative ideology. Stop throwing the baby out with the bath water.

[Winky395]

@leeuniverse

Comparing Romney to Reagan?

Next you'll tell me GW was the same as Goldwater

Romney will get elected and continue to lead us down the

primrose path to socialism. And you will defend him to the end

for 'obvious' reasons.

[leeuniverse]

@Winky395 Romney doesn't have the same exact wise speaking ability that Reagan had (no one does), but policy wise, changes, etc. Romney is exactly the same. And as far as wisdom, experience, etc. Romney is our best candidate. As for "obvious" reasons voting for Romney, sorry, I learned the foolishness of that lesson when I first started to vote years ago not being knowledgable enough and voting for Harry Reid. Sorry, I haven't made that mistake for the last 12 years, I study and compare now.

[Winky395]

@leeuniverse

Alrightie then, which of the many things we real conservatives want will

you man actually accomplish in the eight years he will be president?

Lower spending and taxes? Reduce regulation? Close the borders?

I tell you what if romneycare er obamacare isn't repealed this country is finished

we will slowly dwindle into complete mediocrity, what comes to replace us

God only knows.

[kurtiswhodat84]

Any1 other than Obama is good with me

[Jnenders]

@kurtiswhodat84 Just remember Romney is the GOP version of Obama. 

[leeuniverse]

@Jnenders No he's not, stop lying about people....

[koyunbaba73]

@kurtiswhodat84 Well, not with me. Of course I want to see Obama defeated, but the one bright side of his presidency has been that people are starting to wake up to just how ugly and totalitarian the Left really is. So I don't want Obama defeated by a smaller Leftist like Romney, but by someone who holds and espouses the values of conservatism, which doesn't leave many options. I'm hoping Cain can get his act together.

[miamistorm]

Excellent assessment of the current state of affairs in Presidential elections. It makes me angry as well. Luckily despite all the efforts of the lame stream media, including Fox's overt preference for Romney, Mr. Cain seems to be the elephant in the Republican china shop. He's led the polls for weeks yet the media, Fox too, seems to act as if the man isn't even there. What will those race baiting liberals do when a 100% black man wins a Presidency. Who will the race baiters call racists then?

[Joe11Blue]

@miamistorm Probably you for pushing the issue of him being Black.

[BoyKagome]

One person lost a bet on the indie 500.

[MrConservative608]

One thing that ticked me off in 2000 was George W. Bush was given all this media attention and praise because he was part of the GOP royal family of the Bush's whereas the Democrat royal family were the Kennedy's. I hated this because I thought Alan Keyes should have been president. Also, like Bill Whittle, I liked Ted Thompson. I hate that they said he was a tired, burned-out, old man. I took his comments as him essentially saying that presidential politics is sad because it is a circus.

[wye4379]

I'm not F'ING voting for that LYING A'HOLE Romney and I know a lot of people (ie, registered republicans) who think the same thing. Lets actually have the vote before we let the liberal mainstream media define who the conservative/libertarian candidate is going to be. I wouldn't be surprised if Romney gets hosed for no other reasons than the fact that he has the "support" of the MSM.

[Leavon]

Romney is not the guy.... BS being mouthed by the LSM doesn't make it fact and Conservatives and the Old Guard RINO GOP saying doesn't make it fact either. People are rediscovering what it means to be conservative and Romney is just another Dem/Lite RINO who the LSM and RINO GOP are trying to shove down our throats and we aren't buying it.

[MrConservative608]

@Leavon Don't say that about Romney. He is "running for office for Pete's sake." LOL!

[tomperanteau]

Good, as always. Thanks, guys.

[MMGCDICK]

This is not about who may be at the top or the bottom of the polls. It's about a system that's broken; a system, I believe, put into place for the convenience of the national (conventional, old-skool, 'lamestream", etc.) media corporations, with the happy approval of 'big' money. Great job, Mr. Whittle, et al.  Thanks.

[rndmsfree]

Maybe they don't mention RONPAUL! because nobody gives a shit about his dedicated 6% of voters and no one takes his "foreign policy" ideas seriously. Just spitballing here, but I'd guess that's it.

[tomperanteau]

@rndmsfree That's why we call this form of government a Republic and not a Democracy. So that the alleged 94% can't impose their will on the 6%, and the 6% still have a chance to vote.

We may all find out that 6% is more like 60%, but if this were not a Republic, we may never have the chance to find that out.

[ThePelicans44]

@rndmsfree REALLY? "no one takes his foreign policy seriously"?? Come on, stop watching and listening to mainstream media. He Gets More Donations From Active Military and Veterans than all of the other Republican candidates combined. Not to mention, the several former intelligence officers and people that also back him. Please don't spitball like that again. Dr. Ron Paul, the war Veteran and Champion of the Constitution, doesn't deserve it. The mainstream media guard dogs often distort his views

[PathOfJioFreed]

How old is this that they'd say Romney's closest competitor is PERRY?

[HumbleWillis]

And again ... not a word about Ron Paul ... the only candidate without blood on his hands, dirt on his sleeves or skeletons in his closet. The only candidate with a consistent platform. The only candidate who really stands for liberty and the only candidate who has put forth a plan that will ACTUALLY get us out of debt.

Sometimes you guys at PJTV are a good alternative to the main stream media (MSM). Sometimes you guys are just a slightly more conservative version of the MSM.

[somebigjerk]

@HumbleWillis did you actually watch the video? 2:30 is a ron paul mention for you.  of course for some ronulans, nothing less than blind adulation of their candidate is sufficient.

[HumbleWillis]

@somebigjerk They say is name once in a hypothetical scenario. They don't say anything about any real situations, or anything about what he stands for. So again ... they didn't say one word about him. They said his name ... but not in any reality based context.

[somebigjerk]

@HumbleWillis the last one they did this week was entirely devoted to the man, and even was addressing his specific policies, so you can't claim they are ignoring him in some kind of "vast middle-wing conspiracy."

[HumbleWillis]

@somebigjerk I actually saw that, and I was really impressed at the job they did on it. They were more fair to him than they normally are ... though they do ignore him more often than not.

[hooplablahblahblah]

@HumbleWillis There's a reason Paul and Perry are both at the near bottom of the polls...

[JosaS14]

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