Liberalism is a Mental Illness part 1

[donnely138]

I'm far from being a liberal and I hate the patriot act and warrantless wiretapping. How can anyone who is conservative support wiretapping without just cause? If you must know I'm a gun toting individualist who is socially conservative. Its not a matter of if the government should be able to listen. Ben Franklin said a government should fear the people. I agree. Our rights supersede guilt or investigations on baseless accusations or mindless bureaucrats.

[CJbass420]

How is individual freedom and equality and mental illnes? what do you wanna rule over everyone with an iron fist? facism is the true mental disorder. freedom will save us.

[HoGraz]

I can't believe Republicans think wanting government not spying on you is not conservative. This is ridiculous. I'm not a conservative but I know what real conservatives think. This country has gone crazy. Everyone needs to stop watching corporate media whether it's MSNBC, CNN, or Fox. Definitely Fox since it's not even trying to give information as much as emotions.

[roadkill439342]

@HoGraz

Are you intentionally that obtuse, or do you not understand the use of SATIRE?

[HoGraz]

@roadkill439342 Well did you not notice the guy who wrote "She sounds like an Obama voter." You do realize that people felt that way when they voted Bush back in. It's called NeoConservative, but to answer your question: I guess so. I wasn't sure what the hell to think when I saw this. There seems to be so much insanity on here that I can't figure out who's joking sometimes.

[majorl31]

Just because people are after me doesn't mean I'm paranoid

[ceafexftw]

All of America's parties are far left-wing political puppets anyway... Doesn't matter who you vote for, you're just going to get the same policies with a different face.

[Poonard]

@ceafexftw this is accurate. Politicians are by nature very liberal...we have a few statesmen conservatives but they understand what a statesmen is, you come, you go...Conservatives are the PEOPLE whether anyone likes that idea or not and the really radical Liberals are the people who want to control every little thing whether they call themselves republicans or democrats...but even that statement I made I feel is far too polarizing.

[DrStevenz]

She does sound like an Obama voter.

[roadkill439342]

@Obie013

My comment isn't relevant either???

What kind of convoluted bullshit thinking is that?

My video,

My channel,

YOUR ignorance

[roadkill439342]

@Obie013

You spout history like you are a gifted expert, but do you know

what happened the first time this country experimented with Socialism?

If it weren't for the "Second Wave" of settlers, this country would not exist.

[CHardi1099]

I think if he knew that liberals were turning the country into a socialist cease pool, then he probably would roll in his grave. And "Gave" can be interpreted in many ways. But putting it in quotes is pretty cute.

[ibimw]

Another gifted Obama supporter

[angrydead]

A weak and dubious premise for the weak and dubious minded. Simply becouse someone disagrees with me doesnt make him mentally ill. Perhaps if the author actually understoon what Liberals or even Conservatives believe than he might learn something intelligent and have something irrelivant to say..until then I'm afraid arguing with your own strawmen while personally satisafying is hardly a valid discussion.

[roadkill439342]

You obviously are an empty-headed buffoon with no sense of humor.

[angrydead]

Hardly I am aware your views are a joke,,,,just not a very funny one.

[roadkill439342]

You know what's funny..................

[roadkill439342]

You know what's funny.......

you start out attempting to look smart by (over)using big words, but your inability to spell, punctuate or form a sentence correctly belies your lack of intelligence.

[ConservativeRuleinUS]

Don't laugh too much, this is Obama's base. This is the type of person he convinced to vote for him on his first day. The "logic" of these people is scary, huh? She is a product of our government schools. The social progressives knew they could make "headway" here if they could only get in control of the schools.

[CHardi1099]

Obie013: You obviously do not know your history.

[UShistoryX2]

Liberalism and Multiculturalism are the ideological manifestation of the cultural and social self-destructive apathy that gripped the Western Elite in the aftermath of the First World War. The survival of Western Civilization is dependent upon the intellectual refutation of these noxious and detrimental ideologies.

[CHardi1099]

Slavery is happening now and coexisting just fine for illegal immigrants. Just because it is not happening to you does not mean it does not coexist.

Democracy is not something Republican or independence preaches. Republicans want a Republic. Democracy always fails, and communism rises. Democracy means mob rules. Democracy is not liberty. Liberty and Justice for all, is protected under the law....a Republic.

[borat443]

People that talk in terms, of liberal, conservative, republican and democrat, are stupid. They are setting themselves up for the oldest trick in the book. Divide and conquer, and this guy misses the point, its illegal, period. Doesnt matter if your crazy, if your on meds or if you see dead people. Still illegal without probable cause. People that give up their, liberties for safety deserve, neither...B. Franklin.

[Unilateralism]

People who fail to see the flaws in liberal ideologies are falling for the oldest trick in the book: manipulation of ignorance. This trick let the Catholics kill millions of themselves, Muslims, and Jews; this trick gave Hitler his third Reich; and this trick gave Lenin and Stalin there 'socialist utopia,' which impoverished millions.

There was a time when Conservatives ruled this country, and all were United under the Unilateral belief that the USA is the best.

Those times are over.

[CHardi1099]

Your a smart 21 year old. Good Job!

[Unilateralism]

I'm not sure if that was sarcastic or not. I don't see why it would be: I presented my argument, as well as evidence validating my points.

If it is, then please, attempt to find where I showed anything other then intelligence. If it isn't, then thank you.

[CHardi1099]

No it was not sarcasm. I just don't see too many 21 year olds that I can assume voted for Obama.

I do not need to attempt anything because I was just stating a comment. I was complimenting you.

[kenniblelector]

bravo!

but the divide is more along the lines of people who are capable of processing facts and those who process emotion.... like hope.

[jwillard1971]

So, when one guy lives in the US, and the other guy on the other end is in say, Pakistan and his name is Osama Bin Laden, you don't think thats probable cause enough? Are you retarded?

[CHardi1099]

I think it's a little funny when liberals quote Benjamin Franklin.

Because Franklin was the one who gave us a REPUBLIC, not a Democracy. Democracy is not even written anywhere in the Constitution and Bill of Rights. Look for yourself. Besides the liberal party was not even "coexist" at this time.

[angrydead]

The Republican party didnt exist at all what relavence do these two points have to anything?

[phuture101]

Within liberalism, there are various streams of thought which compete over the use of the term "liberal" and may propose very different policies, but they are generally united by their support for constitutional liberalism, which encompasses support for: freedom of thought and speech, limitations on the power of governments, the rule of law, an individual's right to private property, and a transparent system of government

[roadkill439342]

What you are describing is CLASSIC "Liberalism", and NOT the Progressive Liberalism (Donovan Socialism) we have today.

The "Liberals" of today only support free thought and speech......if it agrees with their ideology, are proponents for expanding the power of Government and believe in the right of the "collective" rather than the individual, and certainly aren't "transparent" in any form of the word.

[phuture101]

Whatever!

[roadkill439342]

What a cogent and thoughtful rejoinder!

I bet that wins debates in all the Collegiate forums!

[phuture101]

It's whatever due to you giving an opinion not facts! Your trying to brake down my words by saying there different with Classic and progressive. I defined the word with how it is defined in the dictionary. But to make your opinion you say Classic and progressive! LOL!! WOW! So is there 2 Conservatives also if so which has been in for the past 8yrs? Give facts Not opinions! Thanks!

[roadkill439342]

Even today, one of the clearest statements of this philosophy is found in Jefferson's Declaration of Independence. At that time, as is the case today, most people believed that rights came from government. People thought they only had such rights as government elected to give them. But following the British philosopher John Locke, Jefferson argued that it's the other way around. People have rights apart from government, part of their nature. Further, people can form governments and dissolve them

[roadkill439342]

Prior to the 20th century, classical liberalism was the dominant political philosophy in the United States. It was the political philosophy of Thomas Jefferson and the signers of the Declaration of Independence and it permeates the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution, the Federalist Papers and many other documents produced by the people who created the American system of government.

[borat443]

You know what I always find interesting about people like you who like to polarize everything. Your easy prey intellectually. You rant about democracy created by slave owners and people committing genocide, Concepts that cant coexist, its illogical except in the US. Now you try to get people to argue about left or right, instead of focusing on important issues.Your whole argument is flawed from the start, and unravels over time and makes you the typical American sheep.

[roadkill439342]

You know what I always find interesting?

You lost any credibility when the next thing coming out of your cake-hole is: "people like you".

[borat443]

Wasnt a ad hominem attack it was a observation based on your statements wich do belong to you as a person, as you have made them. So its not a matter of me being credible in your eyes, its a matter of your statements which ensnare you and allow you to be identified as a person with a particular type of consciousness, but there is still time people can learn and can still change. But Ill shut my stupid cake hole, thanks.

[kireraven]

I like Borats point. People divide themselves by siding with whatever "most" liberal or conservatives think...With personas like Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity or Oprah.

Instead, people should sit down, read all sources avaliable and then make their own opinion before they speak. And even still, we should respect opinions of every nature and come to a common ground.

People love to 'bash" opposite opinions and play into the media's political game. It's sad that America is so divisive today...

[Poonard]

@borat443 ahhhh my bowels just loosened...thank you for that my friend...beautiful words set me free!!! sorry to go to the gutter but...FUCK the left/right paradigm :) Take care!

[roadkill439342]

To appreciate the classical liberal concept of individual rights, it is as important to understand what is being rejected as it is to understand what is being asserted. To say that individuals have the right to pursue their own happiness implies that they are not obliged to pursue the happiness of others. Put differently, the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness implies that people are not obligated to serve the needs, concerns, wishes and wants of others.

[DanMorgan98]

Go back and read the sources that you are referring to. Your interpretation is a strawman. Individual rights have come to be conflated with egoism which is the very opposite of what the classical liberals advocated. All classical liberals advocate some form of civil society. Read the Federalist Papers the single most important piece of political philosophy every produced in the US.

[Unilateralism]

Liberals (especially their modern incarnation) are doing nothing but over complicating our government and tax system (continued opposing of the Fair Tax), diminishing and controlling free speech and thought (the 'Equal Press Act'), enlargement of government powers (Obama's militant police force), and rule of the majority (rule of Law is a policy held by Republic's, while majority rule is in a Democracy/Socialism), as well as seizing property through over-taxation.

[GoodOldHalo]

If Liberalism=mental disorder then Conservatism=mental oblivion.

[G33kz0r]

I had a good laugh. First the conservatives adopt the 'libertarian' label (as is all the rage) and then they advocate government intrusion in personal affairs. As much as I love to prey on ignorant, average Americans as such a radio program would, I have to ask whether anyone can solemnly rebuttal this paradox?

[Questfortruth86]

The government does want to listen.... But i agree with the general premise, liberals are mentally ill.

[jays2474]

Im in the same boat as You.

[earwasel2]

this video is bullshit and doesn't prove anything

[roadkill439342]

Proves ONE thing for sure....

LIBS have no sense of humor.

[KeKLENKE]

This shit is fricken hilarious.... LIBERALS ARE DUMB!

[jays2474]

LOL this is an understatement.

[CityOnTheHill]

I know no such thing. You haven't made a persuasive argument with me. I don't believe the government has a general obligation to control areas of the private sector that fail, especially when it deals with commerce.

Capitalism allows for failure. Socialism does not. For instance. I don't agree with nationalizing the banking system. I also don't believe that government should control the content of broadcast radio...These are concepts your liberal buddies fight for.

[CityOnTheHill]

I see. So, now you know I'm no acolyte of Mr. Jones, does it dash your ideas about what I believe? How disappointing it must be when your opposition won't fit in a nice little package.

[CityOnTheHill]

Have I instilled that impression somehow or are you just trying to pigeon-hole me? I don't trust anyone but least of all, the government. I certainly don't trust government to make peanut butter.

Socialism breeds indifference from lack of incentive. Unrestrained capitalism breeds indifference from greed, but is self-correcting. There are certain services best handled by government like air traffic, minting money, raising an Army...blah, blah, blah. BTW, who's Bob Jones?

[CityOnTheHill]

wrong. Its never the government's responsibility. How many times has the government ever got it right when the responsibility was given to them? How many times does the private sector get it right? You trust government?!! Your the first one I've ever met that does!

[CityOnTheHill]

Then you don't speak of a conservative but rather a liberal. Liberals demand solutions from government.

[stevemtc1]

regular joe???? may be thats why they floowing her Im glad im not one who has follow her

[singintomybutt]

Democrats openly call for the end of your freedom so why does anybody even give them the time of day?

Democrats are worse demagogues and propagandists than the Nazis.

America is going to have another civil war soon because of Democrats. And that is what they want because they want their slaves back!

[soundsfromnothing]

Well..I agree that Bush is guilty of that. Don't forget the loopholes, and turning a blind eye to the rape that oil companies have engaged in (they maintain that they raised their oil prices due to middle east conflicts..yet are turning record profits). You won't get any defense from me there. This is one of my biggest gripes against conservatives. To Cityonthehill: yes conservativism is an ideology (not a party)but it makes up the bedrock of the republican party. Although..there

[soundsfromnothing]

is a division occuring; you're seeing more republicans adopting liberal policies(half the time to secure votes)such as supporting abortion, and advocating funds/licenses/citizenship for illegal aliens. This is causing a major rift. I believe that this, as well, is why McCain lost by such a landslide; he was wishy-washy on his stance (& began backing some of these issues). I would rather vote for someone standing steadfast in their ideals(even if I did not agree w/them), than someone that changes

[soundsfromnothing]

their mind, suddenly, to secure votes. I disagree w/Obama on many of the issues (especially gun control, his pro-illegal stance, and abortion), but McCain was way to shakey on his views for me.

In general, I'll say that the 2 party system has done nothing but maintain 4-8 years of the "status quo" (depending on who's in the white house..and for how long). We need parties that accurately reflect the American Public, which I believe, is more middle-of-the-road.

[kennny732]

a parlimentary system perhaps?

[soundsfromnothing]

Well...even Parliment has there problems. Brits also frequently bump heads w/Tony Blair..but that's a different story. To me, it's more the mindset of both parties. You have people on the fringes in both parties, yes, but those who are elected (for the most part) tend to be more fully entrenched in the attitudes/ideology of their party.

[CityOnTheHill]

Listen, You're confusing republicans with conservatives. Conservative isn't a party, its an ideology. At the core of that ideology is small government. At the core of liberalism is big government. Get it?

Bush expanded the defense budget because we're at WAR. Did you forget or are you just that naive? Your factoid about being the poorest paid military is nonsense. We have one of the best paid military. I should know...I used to be one of them.

[geminvi]

Actually the core of liberalism is individual liberty and equality.

[CityOnTheHill]

The zenith of irony.

[roadkill439342]

Only "Classic" Liberalism, and NOT the "Donovan" Liberals we are stuck with today.

[tstruss912]

@CityOnTheHill "Bush expanded the defense budget because we're at WAR" No retardo. He went to war. There's a big fucking difference. Most of the world favored extradition of the actual criminals; Bush choose nation building. Get it? P.S. Conservatism is dead. You "conservatives" let it die out by handing all your power over to neo-cons (fascists). Thanks a lot.

[CityOnTheHill]

You're confused, Kenny. Conservatives believe in self-reliance.

[soundsfromnothing]

Actually, w/o FREEDOM, we'd all be under kingship. Liberals tend to believe in big government, which -at times in this country-have been similar to kingship. (conservatives themselves tend to look upon the federal government as "the big brother" intruding into daily life).

[CityOnTheHill]

Conservatives take responsibility for their actions and lives. They don't require government to solve their problems, they have the resourcefulness and maturity to resolve their own problems.

[CityOnTheHill]

...and you believe conservatives don't?

[soundsfromnothing]

And, there are 2 types of idiots..conservatives & liberals. Both go overboard. Conservatives want 2 screw everyone(favoring big business)liberals want to give a select group certain "rights, @ the detriment of others. There are many other grievances, but I won't take the time 2 go into them. Bottom line: each issue should be evaluated carefully, then decided upon. We tend to let the pendulum swing way too far in this country(when we get hyped on an issue or depending on who's in white house).

[CityOnTheHill]

There is one type of liberal...victim.

[Chuichupachichi]

I know what you mean. But I guess we'll have to wait until the highly unethical, "anything goes", Jackass Demofags get into power. Before we start to see the Patriot Act being used in ways other than what it was intended for.

[Chuichupachichi]

Ha Ha thats funny, "rented houses on both sides". Funny, since if they really wanted to invade his privacy, they don't have to rent the next door houses. All you have to do is move in next door to a paranoid clown belonging to an agency of the Gov. Then, although in the real world, you may have done nothing to legally justify their following actions, still, you'll be fucked.

No need for them to rent, since technology doesn't grow at a constant rate. But rather, at a compounding rate because it

[Chuichupachichi]

feeds off of itself. Therefor, since its been 40 yrs. since man went to the moon. Its difficult to even imagine the kinds of technologies which exist in the world and are available to the powers that be. Many of the crazy Jackasses on the left that piss, moan, and cry about the "Patriot Act" POSSIBILITY of that their phone calls might one day be listened to. Are the same ones who at some previous time were all to happy to participate in Constitutional Ass-wiping, Communist Jackass activities.

[Maty0269]

You cant take that crazy bitch and use her as an example of how liberalsm is a mental disorder, that woman could have been just as well a conservative, just a schizophrenic one

[Chuichupachichi]

Aside from the fact that the Patriot Act has not resulted in any Americans being dragged away to torture dungeons after being denied legal representation. Still, its the Liberal Jackasses that, in the YEARS since Patriot, have been consistently crying with tons of bellyaching over their delusions of a mass murdering, Adolf Bush. Partly stemming from their subscription to the pseudo science from Sickman Fried and all his "Motherfuckinism" and other whacked, Simianist Manifesto influenced ideas.

[limballer]

i am a strict conservative repub, WITH THAT SAID, i do not believe that the patriot act was right. i dont care who you are or what you do, privacy matters to me. maybe ive seen one too many horror movies of gov takeovers, but you have to admit that socialism requires surveillance to keep the public in check and under wraps. I believe that just as the constitution prohibits un-warranted searches, this fall into the same category. Sorry, but as a conservative for me that is a point of disagreement

[Chuichupachichi]

I mean, if there's nothing wrong with proudly parading your wanton attitude in the streets, over being a male with a cock in your ass. Or nothing wrong with killing your own babies. Then one can see how certainly there can't be anything wrong with using Patriot for a little personal Jackass entertainment at the expense of some American citizens.

[suckmejagon]

i don't understand why people are sooo worked up about this wire tapping thing, the government is trying to protect you. and if your doing something wrong then you deserved to be arrested, and so what if they do big deal

[ericshef]

The big deal is that they're violating a constituional right. By doing this and taking away our right to trial, we are leaving ourselves very vulnerable. Yeah, we may not get wiretapped now, but by making it legal we open up the possibility down the road, leaving us powerless to defend ourselves from gobernment. Fear should never change the freedoms of a country. This isn't a liberal or conservative issue, it is an American one.

[christopherduke]

No, they are making sure you aren't blown up by our enemies. Be grateful asshole!

[ericshef]

That's right, I should be grateful.I should depend on government and learn to love big brother, because if not I'm an unpatriotic asshole. With all these terrorists running around the suburbs latley, it's hard to understand how we did things any other way.Fuck having a private conversation, fuck being able to secrtley conversate if God forbid my country turned tyranical.Fuck it, I'm yours government, servile and ignorant, take me.

[gosfordjohn]

The "entourage" following her is probably the film crew from "Worlds Stupidest People" gathering material.

On a serious note, I fkn LOVE rhubarb pie man, and while you guys sit around making fun of these idiots, I scan the airwaves in a constant search for a really good recipe.

rofl - good post!

[JMMFilm]

generally the idea of wiretapping and paranoia related to big government institutions are issues of the libertarian party or anarchists; thanks for a great clip of a mentally ill person. I don't know if it proves your point.

[roadkill439342]

Naturally JMMFilm, I made this clip somewhat tongue-in-cheek, from the audio, to the assertion that no one wants your aunt Mathilda's rhubarb pie recipe.

[playconn]

You can't blame people's paranoia on Libertarians. All they have stated is that the Patriot Act gave the government more power than they should be allowed by our constitution. It is the lack of intelligence the average American has coupled with "news" media looking for entertaining and controversial stories that blow things out of proportion.

[roadkill439342]

Sorry I deleted your comment. Did it quite by accident. Yep, that is funny shit right there!

Bill Handel did an excellent job with Alicia.