@aik, I'd say thanks for the easy win but you never got your pieces on the board and it's never been a debate, only you getting corrected. I shall retire for the evening knowing the historical record of the Holocaust is free from threat The world will always remember what happened to the Jews, Roman, POWs... under the filthy nazis and and no undereducated dimwit like you is ever going to change that boy.
the gimps calculations don't take into account that it can't reach a fatal level "immediately". no matter what fantasy ppm amount it wishes to make up.
"Through the peephole one could see that those who were near the air duct died immediately. It can be said that about a third died within a moment's notice." - hoess
@aik, You get dumber everyday and right now I'd swear it was the middle of next month. Pressac calculated the nazi gas chambers had approx 12g per m/3, that's around 12,000 ppm dumbass. Why don't you take a few breaths of that concentration. I promise it will have discernible impact on your intellect.
@aik, Good lord you're stupid. Now why don't you compare the time it would take for the NaCN to dissolve to the point where the HCN would be released to the time it would take for the direct application of HCN to fill a room the dimensions of a gas chamber. Oh wait, you're an idiot so you'd never be able to attempt something like that. "Checkmate"? boy, you ain't even in the game.
"Through the peephole one could see that those who were near the air duct died immediately. It can be said that about a third died within a moment's notice." - hoess
"in fact 12g per m/3 will kill anybody breathing it very quickly." - the gimp
"In the trial, the civil liberties union has said it will rely on accounts of the executions of Mr. Harris and Mr. Mason, including descriptions by three journalists. They will also offer accounts of apparently PROLONGED and painful deaths in the Mississippi and Arizona gas chambers."
"Over the state's objections, the civil liberties union lawyers will also seek to offer testimony about Nazi gas chambers."
@aik, Yes, HCN is extremely poisonous to humans, in fact 12g per m/3 will kill anybody breathing it very quickly. What you haven't posted is how much of that one pound was sodium and how much of it was HCN. One pound of HCN is not equal in weight to one pound of NaCN dumbass.
one pound of hcn has never killed one person "immediately".
so, the million dollar question remains.
how much does it take to kill one person "immediately"?
not to mention 1000 people.
just asking.
"Through the peephole one could see that those who were near the air duct died immediately. It can be said that about a third died within a moment's notice." - hoess
for everyone reading this, don't expect a response. the shill is licking its wounds.
@aik, but it wasn't a pound of HCN used in the American penal system stupid, it was a pound of NaCN, you've yet to post the speed of the chemical reaction that released the HCN from the NaCN and you've yet to posit even a guess on the HCN concentration in a penal gas chamber. You've made yourself an ass but you haven't dented the historical record the Holocaust boy. Go learn some science boy.
the fact that the us penal system chose to use one pound suggests that it was needed. i suggest anymore would have made it dangerous to the eyewitnesses. like a ticking time bomb.
one pound was needed to ensure the fastest death possible.
sadly it was never immediate.
oh dear.
back to the drawing board for the shill and its lies.
i have never said less than one pound of hcn can't kill anyone. i have never said that one pound of hcn can only kill one person.
what i have always said is that one pound of hcn can't kill one person immediately. let alone 1000 people. i wonder how much more you would need for that?
"i guess we can all take it, that the wondrous fantasy land of nazi gas chambers killing people "immediately", didn't? quite work in the real world."
"they clearly didn't think those wondrous stories of jews dropping dead "immediately" from zyklon b held any water. it was the u.s. penal systems goal, to make death come as fast and as painless as possible. they failed miserably."
"it is awesome that one pound of NaCN couldn't kill anything immediately."
"the americans tried for 50 years to achieve an immediate death from hcn. time and time again they failed. it would seem that the wondrous tales of auschwitz have been proven impossible."
"the u.s. penal system thought so little of the holohoax myth, where thousands of jews supposedly died "immediately"
"yet the US, the only country to use gas chambers as a means of execution, had such trouble gassing even one person."
my comments from over a year ago state my argument clearly.
"maybe it's about time someone proved you can kill more than one person with a pound of sodium cyanide." plus "1 pound of hcn is needed to kill one person"
Support for your stated theory that 1 pound of cyanide is needed to kill one person.....that support is .....?
"Once death has been pronounced, ammonia is introduced to the chamber to neutralize the hydrocyanic gas. Staff don protective clothing, then enter the chamber to remove the body of? the deceased. Prior to removal, the body is washed down with water, a process to further assure that no cyanide residue remains" - North Carolina Department of Corrections
You also can't see one document or report which says it takes a pound of CN to kill only one person. You can't see one historian stating it takes a paper order to trigger genocide. You also have never seen a penal gassing or the remains of one single penal gassing victim.
In keeping with your theory of only believing what you see and by you own logic and life experience, you have nothing on WW2 history.
"Dinsmore arranged with the company to purchase a quantity of the substance sufficient for multiple executions, and Warden Dickerson announced that a vehicle would be dispatched to Los Angeles to haul the death-dealing equipment. The cyanide cost one dollar per pound, and twenty pounds were purchased, although only about one and a half pounds would be used for the initial execution." - the last gasp, scott christianson
@aik, If you can find an industrial hygienist, toxicologist, medical doctor, chemist... who will say that a concentration of 12g HCN m/3 wouldn't be quickly fatal then post it. You conceded on this point some time ago so I'm not sure why you think you'll get a different result this time boy.
"i'm posting all of the peer reviewed evidence that proves me right..."
And as an authority on rats and the credibility of Scott Christianson you are untouchable.
But he doesn't say it takes a pound or more to kill only one person and rats aren't the subject of the thread. Humans are....and a mg per kilo of bodyweight level of CN is lethal to every human...as every chemistry and medical site will attest. Currently you have not one crumb of support on any of your claims.
"Relatively high concentrations of HCN (>100 ppm) were generated from modacrylic, wool, Flamentin (fire retardant; a mixture or ammonium salts) treated cotton, etc.... MOST of the deaths in rats occurred during the 30 min exposure"
@aikhooligan Try this one, aik. It may help improve your reading skills. 1. Which one of the following people is known as Robert Wolfe? A) Robert Wolfe B) Dick Dastardly C) Dame Margaret Rutherford 2. Which one of the following people is known as Carlos Porter? A) Carlos Porter B) Rufus Roughcut C) Dusty Springfield CLUE: The answer letter is a vowel in both cases.
I'm just applying your rules of evidence Rolf my old mucker...you seem to object to that. Don't worry though, I intend to use it around you at all times.
"is the name change an admission of getting owned again?"
@aikhooligan You're an idiot. You should put down your 5th grade textbook and come back to reality! Do you believe all the propaganda your government spews at you?? I'm sure you've done some research too. LOL You are a joke!
We have eyewitness testimony, science, three generations of study, published historians and perpetrator admissions you cannot match with any denials.
On penal gassings and your one pound theory, we also have the fact that you will not - and never will - say that one pound only kills one person. You therefore do not believe your own claims and know they are bogus.
What YOU have on penal gassings is.....eyewitness testimony......and that's it.
Looks like the "damage control patrol" has come out as usual - aikhooligan has sourced his material, has scientific validation, and professional parallel. Expostulations of keyboard excrement by liars who like to insure that their comments (lies) are more numerous,and last to be read, will not change that fact. The de-lousing chambers saved many who would have otherwised perished in the face of the typhus epidemic raging at the time. The liar's "gatekeeping" fails again! Shylock got his pound !
Looks like the "damage control patrol" has come out as usual - aikhooligan has sourced his material, has scientific validation, and professional parallel. Expostulations of keyboard excrement by liars who like to insure that their comments (lies) are more numerous,and last to be read, will not change that fact. The de-lousing chambers saved many who would have otherwised perished in the face of the typhus epidemic raging at the time. The liar's "gatekeeping" fails again! Shylock got his pound !
Looks like the "damage control patrol" has come out as usual - aikhooligan has sourced his material, has scientific validation, and professional parallel. Expostulations of keyboard excrement by liars who like to insure that their comments (lies) are more numerous,and last to be read, will not change that fact. The de-lousing chambers saved many who would have otherwised perished in the face of the typhus epidemic raging at the time. The liar's "gatekeeping" fails again! Shylock got his pound !
i have sources validated by holohoaxers. i have actual human deaths and amount of hcn used. no one died "immediately". and then we have the poor shill, that has eyewitness testimony of people dying "immediately" from hcn and no human corpses with amount of hcn used.
@aik, WHy don't you lock yourself in a room with HCN at a concentration of 12g per cubic meter and get back to us. Of course, it would be a while before anybody knew you were gone.
@red, What would be the harm in aik locking himself in a room with 12g of HCN per cubic meter? According to aik, that concentration isn't lethal. And if he's wrong, who would care?
You are utterly afraid to say categorically that one pound can only kill one man. You have no science, no sources, no professional parallel and Christianson has written an entire chapter on nazi gassings. He does not support you in any way, shape or form.
You can repeat your own posts in tantrum, but you still have diddly zip.
"Dinsmore arranged with the company to purchase a quantity of the substance sufficient for multiple executions, and Warden Dickerson announced that a vehicle would be dispatched to Los Angeles to haul the death-dealing equipment. The cyanide cost one dollar per pound, and twenty pounds were purchased, although only about one and a half pounds would be used for the initial execution." - the last gasp, scott christianson
Interrogation of Hoess at Nuremberg by Mr Sender Jaari - 2 April 1946
“The same thing happened as I already told you happened in the farmhouses. It depended on the weather conditions. If it were dry and a lot of people were in the gas chambers, it was comparatively fast…from three or five minutes to fifteen minutes.”
The reason you will not say that one pound of cyanide can kill only one person, is because you'd rather play the coward and let abductive reasoning and lying by omission do it for you.
The same reasons you won't debate it. You're afraid to.
And if you're afraid to take part - you can't win diddly.
"the myth doesn't have averages. it says all dropped dead at the same time."
Nope. Wrong again.
"Through the peephole one could see that those who were near the air duct died immediately. It can be said that about a third died within a moment's notice. The others began to struggle, to scream, to choke. But very quickly the cries became death rattles, and, after a few minutes, all were on the ground. After a maximum of twenty minutes, nobody moved."
"Through the peephole one could see that those who were near the air duct died immediately. It can be said that about a third died within a moment's notice."
has anyone EVER died "immediately" from hcn?
the rest of the statement looks rather unreliable, wouldn't you think?
"it may have been ten to fifteen minutes, the gas chamber was opened. The dead lay higgledy-piggedly all over the place. It was a dreadful sight."
"ammonia is introduced to the chamber to neutralize the hydrocyanic gas. Staff don protective clothing, then enter the chamber to remove the body of? the deceased. Prior to removal, the body is washed down with water, a process to further assure that no cyanide residue remains" - North Carolina Department of Corrections
"This case is unusual in that survival without sequelae occurred despite exposure to HCN in the order of 500 mg/cu m for a six minute exposure, especially as treatment? was not initiated until approximately? 1 hr after exposure. Thus, survival with minimal sequelae can? occur." - [Bonsall JL; Hum Toxicol 3 (1): 57-60 (1984)]**PEER REVIEWED**
"Through the peephole one could see that those who were near the air duct died immediately. It can be said that about a third died within a moment's notice."
does "immediately" mean "3 to 15 minutes" now?
the law of averages doesn't seem to apply in this case.
"lethal gas was so unpredictable in its consequences that condemned prisoners feared it much more than the electric chair." - The Transition of Methods of Execution in North Carolina: A Descriptive Social History of Two Time Periods, 1935 & 1983, Katrina Nannette Seitz
""A study of the execution records of 113 prisoners executed at San Quentin showed that the average time taken to kill them was 9.3 minutes. The prisoner will usually lose consciousness between one and three minutes after the gas hits their face and the doctor will pronounce them dead in around 10 to 12 minutes. An exhaust fan then sucks the gas out of the chamber.” capitalpunishment uk
The reality says it actually is. According to your source!
You say it takes a pound to kill one person. The science and chemistry says not.
You have no science or chemistry whatsoever to support you. And you also don't have Christianson validating your sources - or you'd post him doing so.
And you can't. Because you only believe what you see.....and you never saw one. ;-)
"This case is unusual in that survival without sequelae occurred despite exposure to HCN in the order of 500 mg/cu m for a six minute exposure, especially as treatment? was not initiated until approximately? 1 hr after exposure. Thus, survival with minimal sequelae can? occur." - [Bonsall JL; Hum Toxicol 3 (1): 57-60 (1984)]**PEER REVIEWED**
"Through the peephole one could see that those who were near the air duct died immediately. It can be said that about a third died within a moment's notice."
"After about two minutes the shrieks die down and change to a low moaning. Most of the men have already lost consciousness. After a further two minutes, it is all over."
it would seem that the "average" doesn't apply to the myth.
There has been more "gassings" perpetrated by hollowco$ters in this thread ( albeit the type predominantly used here is closer to that produced by the heinz variety) than never happened in non-existant gas chambers duringWW11. I - one amongst many, am a survivor of the hollowco$t, and our numbers are growing exponentially
"Dinsmore arranged with the company to purchase a quantity of the substance sufficient for multiple executions, and Warden Dickerson announced that a vehicle would be dispatched to Los Angeles to haul the death-dealing equipment. The cyanide cost one dollar per pound, and twenty pounds were purchased, although only about one and a half pounds would be used for the initial execution." - the last gasp, scott christianson
please don't spam scott. he didn't mean to bury you even deeper.
What does Scott Christianson say about nazi gas chambers, mate?
It's in the introduction and in Part 1 Section 8:
"The Third Reich...expanded upon it, developinig a huge industrial system to systematically slaughter millions of innocent men, women and children in an effort to carry out genocide against Jewish people and Gypsies, the mentally handicapped, homosexuals and political radicals"
Another schoolboy howler alert, and we're only half way through January.
@aikhooligan - To some (one in particular, who repeatedly recieves and loves a good slapping - LOL! ROTFL!) a "REPLY button" is merely a codeword for "damage control button", which in this particular case, fails spectacularly every time without fail. I do, however, feel that Irene Zisblatt, Moshe Peer, and E-lie weasel would be proud of their efforts - ONE DIAMOND AT A TIME! Moshe Peer STILL to this day is the reigning champ surviving 6 gassings!
"all i have ever asked for is one human death with amount of hcn used."
Until you can show it took the whole pound, you have zip
"it can't provide anything to refute the penal gassings."
Where do we say we want to?
"it spams sources, refuses to debate and attacks me with mindless drivel."
Your wholly credible source is Christianson - who has a section on nazi genocide by gas. You have nothing to debate and once again, you've blown both feet off.
In all this game, the devil is losing and at the end will be accused of everything because GOD don’t want any rivals. Conclusion: live at the full in the freedom of GOD (praying in a right form, following the INSTRUCTIONS in the Bible - keeping the 10 commandments - including keeping the Saturday as the 7th day etc.) instead of in the incapacity and limited power of devil because he is just a temporary puppet. Jesus Christ is our savior and our hope!
As you - in your own words - "only believe in what i can see", and have clearly never witnessed a penal gassing, I suggest you drop the dropped capitals and join in - or do the other, sonny.
With avisionry we do at least have occasional debate. You can't seem to move beyond the statements you've already had rammed down your throat.
Don't overstretch, mate. You're a sideshow item. ;-)
Actually, they did not. Argumentum ex silentio is simply a self-defeating admission of ignorance. Abductive reasoning: one of the millstones of denial and worthless in this context
The SS - as you well know - also had a reputation for destroying evidence just before they ran away. It's one of the reasons we don't have any remains of Mr & Mrs Hitler who, as they never filmed it, obvioulsy never committed suicide, right?.
"...it would not be possible to use a portion of the land to build gas chambers"
Guess it wouldnt.
Got any film of the alleged homicidal gas chambers in use. Surely a jew, through the black markets inside the camps, smuggled a camera and filmed the whole grissly process.
No? Oh dear
The Germans, meticulous record keepers must have filmed the alledged HGCs?
They filmed everything else, the edelweiss, the smiling staff, the lichens on the tree trunks.
"Eisenhower was a WWII criminal of epic preportions who was solely responsible for the deaths of over 1000000 Germans."
You got any film of this, then?
Mate, have you thought about sewing two Oxo cubes into a piece of chicken(!) skin and nestling the thing in the area of your perineum? It won't smell great, but it means you'll never be short of a decent gravy.
I don't know who told you you could debate, mate, but you really should raise your game above inane sniping.
How many more times, Mr Angry? If you want to discuss any subiect in this period of history, you only have to say and then adopt a very simple alternating post format, in keeping with reasonable standards of adult courtesy.
I can do it, so can dec, newt and MSM. If you can't, I suggest you stay in your safety zone and just ignore us.
the shills gimp clearly had failed, so the shill slithers out of hiding to get owned all on its own.
well done, pip squeak.
can you read yet?
aikhooligan 51 minutes ago
@aik, I'd say thanks for the easy win but you never got your pieces on the board and it's never been a debate, only you getting corrected. I shall retire for the evening knowing the historical record of the Holocaust is free from threat The world will always remember what happened to the Jews, Roman, POWs... under the filthy nazis and and no undereducated dimwit like you is ever going to change that boy.
Newton503 37 minutes ago
the gimps calculations don't take into account that it can't reach a fatal level "immediately". no matter what fantasy ppm amount it wishes to make up.
oh dear.
at every turn it is destroyed.
aikhooligan 3 hours ago
@aikhooligan
And the only accounts of gassing all said "immediately", did they?
timpovikings 58 minutes ago
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@timpovikings
"Through the peephole one could see that those who were near the air duct died immediately. It can be said that about a third died within a moment's notice." - hoess
your star witness.
oops!
aikhooligan 53 minutes ago
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@aikhooligan
aikhooligan: "i have never said less than one pound of hcn can't kill anyone. i have never said that one pound of hcn can only kill one person."
aikhooligan: "maybe it's about time someone proved you can kill more than one person with a pound of sodium cyanide"
See what I mean?
Deniers always bring about their own defeat. And usually by shooting demselves.....in defeet.
timpovikings 9 hours ago
"human, 452ppm, 1hr."
the gimp would do well to check its own sources.
a 1 hr exposure to PURE HCN.
where does "immediately" fit into its moronic theory?
again, its very own link buried it and its bogus science.
LOVE IT.
aikhooligan 13 hours ago
@aik, You get dumber everyday and right now I'd swear it was the middle of next month. Pressac calculated the nazi gas chambers had approx 12g per m/3, that's around 12,000 ppm dumbass. Why don't you take a few breaths of that concentration. I promise it will have discernible impact on your intellect.
Newton503 10 hours ago
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timpovikings 1 day ago
immediately: without lapse of time; without delay; instantly; at once:
CHECK MATE.
aikhooligan 1 day ago
@aik, Good lord you're stupid. Now why don't you compare the time it would take for the NaCN to dissolve to the point where the HCN would be released to the time it would take for the direct application of HCN to fill a room the dimensions of a gas chamber. Oh wait, you're an idiot so you'd never be able to attempt something like that. "Checkmate"? boy, you ain't even in the game.
Newton503 23 hours ago
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"Through the peephole one could see that those who were near the air duct died immediately. It can be said that about a third died within a moment's notice." - hoess
"in fact 12g per m/3 will kill anybody breathing it very quickly." - the gimp
immediately doesn't mean very quickly.
love the excuses.
hilarious.
aikhooligan 1 day ago
"In the trial, the civil liberties union has said it will rely on accounts of the executions of Mr. Harris and Mr. Mason, including descriptions by three journalists. They will also offer accounts of apparently PROLONGED and painful deaths in the Mississippi and Arizona gas chambers."
"Over the state's objections, the civil liberties union lawyers will also seek to offer testimony about Nazi gas chambers."
aikhooligan 1 day ago
something needs to post one case of anyone dying from hcn "immediately".
something can't.
so i win.
LOVE IT.
aikhooligan 1 day ago
"HCN is extremely poisonous to humans. It is used in execution gas chambers in the US; the first was built in Arizona in 1920." - nizkor.
aikhooligan 2 days ago
@aik, Yes, HCN is extremely poisonous to humans, in fact 12g per m/3 will kill anybody breathing it very quickly. What you haven't posted is how much of that one pound was sodium and how much of it was HCN. One pound of HCN is not equal in weight to one pound of NaCN dumbass.
Newton503 2 days ago
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timpovikings 2 days ago
funnily enough, as i have proven, that has been my argument for years now.
no wonder the shill lied and twisted my words.
the hoax and the hoaxer are dead and buried.
thank you.
aikhooligan 2 days ago
one pound of hcn has never killed one person "immediately".
so, the million dollar question remains.
how much does it take to kill one person "immediately"?
not to mention 1000 people.
just asking.
"Through the peephole one could see that those who were near the air duct died immediately. It can be said that about a third died within a moment's notice." - hoess
for everyone reading this, don't expect a response. the shill is licking its wounds.
LOVE IT.
aikhooligan 2 days ago
@aik, but it wasn't a pound of HCN used in the American penal system stupid, it was a pound of NaCN, you've yet to post the speed of the chemical reaction that released the HCN from the NaCN and you've yet to posit even a guess on the HCN concentration in a penal gas chamber. You've made yourself an ass but you haven't dented the historical record the Holocaust boy. Go learn some science boy.
Newton503 2 days ago
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timpovikings 3 days ago
the fact that the us penal system chose to use one pound suggests that it was needed. i suggest anymore would have made it dangerous to the eyewitnesses. like a ticking time bomb.
one pound was needed to ensure the fastest death possible.
sadly it was never immediate.
oh dear.
back to the drawing board for the shill and its lies.
bye bye, pip squeak.
aikhooligan 3 days ago
i have never said less than one pound of hcn can't kill anyone. i have never said that one pound of hcn can only kill one person.
what i have always said is that one pound of hcn can't kill one person immediately. let alone 1000 people. i wonder how much more you would need for that?
and the myth is immediately.
the shills sources say so.
too bad.
LOVE IT.
it really should learn to read.
aikhooligan 3 days ago
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@aikhooligan
" what i have always said is that one pound of hcn can't kill one person immediately."
How do you know? Have you seen a gassing?
Please prove this using the Rolf form of evidence:
I only believe what I see with my own eyes.
deconneurnot 3 days ago
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timpovikings 3 days ago
"apparently "the rapid effects of HCN" weren't so rapid 20 years later in the u.s. penal gassings."
"i have the bodies, the amount used and the time it took until death. it doesn't look good for the myth, or the shill."
"the part i love is where one pound of sodium cyanide couldn't kill ANYONE immediately."
"1 pound of NaCN = 7500ppm. not one inmate dropped dead immediately."
"1 pound of hcn is needed to kill one person. even with that amount death is not immediate."
aikhooligan 3 days ago
"i guess we can all take it, that the wondrous fantasy land of nazi gas chambers killing people "immediately", didn't? quite work in the real world."
"they clearly didn't think those wondrous stories of jews dropping dead "immediately" from zyklon b held any water. it was the u.s. penal systems goal, to make death come as fast and as painless as possible. they failed miserably."
"it is awesome that one pound of NaCN couldn't kill anything immediately."
aikhooligan 3 days ago
"the americans tried for 50 years to achieve an immediate death from hcn. time and time again they failed. it would seem that the wondrous tales of auschwitz have been proven impossible."
"the u.s. penal system thought so little of the holohoax myth, where thousands of jews supposedly died "immediately"
"yet the US, the only country to use gas chambers as a means of execution, had such trouble gassing even one person."
my comments from over a year ago state my argument clearly.
aikhooligan 3 days ago
"Support for your stated theory that 1 pound of cyanide is needed to kill one person.....that support is .....?"
nearly one hundred years of penal gassings.
aikhooligan 4 days ago
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"maybe it's about time someone proved you can kill more than one person with a pound of sodium cyanide."
that's me asking a question.
"1 pound of hcn is needed to kill one person"
nothing less than 1 pound was and is used to kill inmates. that's a fact and you can't prove otherwise.
so where is my theory that one pound can only kill one person?
or can't you read?
aikhooligan 4 days ago
"Can one pound of CN kill one person only....as YOU claim?"
post my words verbatim.
pretty please.
aikhooligan 4 days ago
@aikhooligan
"post my words verbatim."
Not a problem...
"maybe it's about time someone proved you can kill more than one person with a pound of sodium cyanide." plus "1 pound of hcn is needed to kill one person"
Support for your stated theory that 1 pound of cyanide is needed to kill one person.....that support is .....?
timpovikings 4 days ago
"Calling all thumb fairies....Calling all thumb fairies....."
timpovikings 5 days ago
"Once death has been pronounced, ammonia is introduced to the chamber to neutralize the hydrocyanic gas. Staff don protective clothing, then enter the chamber to remove the body of? the deceased. Prior to removal, the body is washed down with water, a process to further assure that no cyanide residue remains" - North Carolina Department of Corrections
poor olere and his "photographic memory"
how did he remember doing it????
just asking.
aikhooligan 6 days ago
@aikhooligan
" "Once death has been pronounced..."
Irrelevant.
According to AIK rules, one can only believe what one sees with one's own eyes.
Otherwise all means nothing.
So...how many actual gassings have you seen take place yourself?
just asking.
deconneurnot 6 days ago
@deconneurnot
i see the protocols. i see the gas chamber. i see the inmates graves.
what have you got?
do you have an order?
do you have a gas chamber?
do you have a mass grave?
just asking.
because i can't see any of them.
aikhooligan 6 days ago
@aikhooligan
"because i can't see any of them."
You also can't see one document or report which says it takes a pound of CN to kill only one person. You can't see one historian stating it takes a paper order to trigger genocide. You also have never seen a penal gassing or the remains of one single penal gassing victim.
In keeping with your theory of only believing what you see and by you own logic and life experience, you have nothing on WW2 history.
Not a bean.
timpovikings 5 days ago
@timpovikings
"Dinsmore arranged with the company to purchase a quantity of the substance sufficient for multiple executions, and Warden Dickerson announced that a vehicle would be dispatched to Los Angeles to haul the death-dealing equipment. The cyanide cost one dollar per pound, and twenty pounds were purchased, although only about one and a half pounds would be used for the initial execution." - the last gasp, scott christianson
scott doesn't have a problem with it.
aikhooligan 5 days ago
@aikhooligan
He also doesn't have a problem with the chapter on nazi gas chambers, unlike you.
But, just for old times sake:
Can one pound of cyanide only kill one person?
timpovikings 5 days ago
@timpovikings
why don't you believe scott?
just asking.
"Can one pound of cyanide only kill one person?"
can 1 pound make 1000 people drop dead at the same time?
the answer is no.
prove otherwise.
aikhooligan 5 days ago
@aik, If you can find an industrial hygienist, toxicologist, medical doctor, chemist... who will say that a concentration of 12g HCN m/3 wouldn't be quickly fatal then post it. You conceded on this point some time ago so I'm not sure why you think you'll get a different result this time boy.
Newton503 5 days ago
@aikhooligan
I do believe Scott, son.
Because at no point does he support or endorse you. And the beauty of that is, you can't even find a way to make it look like he does.
timpovikings 4 days ago
@aikhooligan
If Scott Christianson says that a whole pound (and a half) of CN can kill only one person, I think you'd have posted it by now.
I'm only saying.
timpovikings 4 days ago
@timpovikings
the very first u.s. penal gassing used 1 and a half pounds of hcn. to this day they use 1 pound.
convergence springs to mind.
i have a man surviving without treatment for over an hour with an exposure to far less than 1 pound of hcn. peer reviewed.
please post one peer reviewed case of anyone dying from less that one pound of hcn?
i seem to hold all the cards, pip squeak.
too bad.
i predict LOL'S, ROFL'S and insults are on the horizon.
aikhooligan 4 days ago
@aikhooligan
Yaaaaawn...
Please post one source - any source - that says what you only ever infer and now never state - that it takes one pound of CN to kill only one person.
All the cards? After proving you can't read and your little Christianson fuck up, I'd say any cards you hold are jokers. Watch, I'll show you....
Can one pound of CN only kill one person...as you claim?
timpovikings 4 days ago
@timpovikings
i'm posting all of the peer reviewed evidence that proves me right and you cry about it.
awesome.
hcn >100ppm and all rats didn't die in 30 mins.
"Can one pound of CN only kill one person...as you claim?"
it sure wouldn't kill 1000 people in 15mins. now, would it?
unless you can prove otherwise.
go for it, pip squeak.
aikhooligan 4 days ago
@aikhooligan
Can one pound of CN kill one person only....as YOU claim?
timpovikings 4 days ago
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@aikhooligan
"i'm posting all of the peer reviewed evidence that proves me right..."
And as an authority on rats and the credibility of Scott Christianson you are untouchable.
But he doesn't say it takes a pound or more to kill only one person and rats aren't the subject of the thread. Humans are....and a mg per kilo of bodyweight level of CN is lethal to every human...as every chemistry and medical site will attest. Currently you have not one crumb of support on any of your claims.
timpovikings 4 days ago
@aikhooligan
Who supports you on your one pound theory, mate?
You know....the one you are now shitscared to even put into words?
timpovikings 4 days ago
@timpovikings
what theory?
just asking.
aikhooligan 4 days ago
@aikhooligan
My mistake, son.
Can you show us who supports you on your one pound of CN claim?
Just asking, ditto.
timpovikings 4 days ago
@timpovikings
what theory?
aikhooligan 4 days ago
@aikhooligan
"What theory."
Exactly, mate.
Without a crumb of agreement from any source, It doesn't even qualify as a rhetorical question!
timpovikings 4 days ago
@timpovikings
so, i never had a theory then?
thanks, mate.
aikhooligan 4 days ago
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@aikhooligan
"so, i never had a theory then?"
Without science, support, agreement and consensus.............no.
timpovikings 4 days ago
@aikhooligan
....who invariably shoot demselves........in defeet.
timpovikings 4 days ago
@timpovikings
you really should learn to read, pip squeak.
LOVE IT.
aikhooligan 4 days ago
@aikhooligan
You busted your own claim on 1 pound. You said "1 pound of hcn is needed to kill one person" - but you never said it again, and never will.
Because you know it isn't true.
Once again, aik, the best defeat for denial always comes from the deniers.
timpovikings 4 days ago
@timpovikings
1 pound is needed to kill one person.
the u.s. penal gassings are the only known human gassings with amount used.
they are all we have regarding actual physical proof. you can't provide anything else. so i am right.
I WIN.
and you cant read.
well done.
aikhooligan 4 days ago
@aikhooligan
Nope. Wrong again. Until you have an autopsy which says 1 pound was needed to bring about death, you have nothing.
In your own terms, you have no actual physical proof and you have never seen a penal gassing.
Next?
timpovikings 4 days ago
@timpovikings
i am always right.
you can't prove me wrong.
case closed.
how's your reading going these days?
aikhooligan 4 days ago
@aikhooligan
You have no scholarly, medical, chemical or penal source which says a mg per kilo of bodyweight amount is not lethal.
My reading? Well, I can tell a Robert Wolfe from a Carlos Porter.
timpovikings 4 days ago
@timpovikings
so no corpse then?
good work.
aikhooligan 4 days ago
@aikhooligan
Don't need one. There's only you crying for it.
You're a lone voice with no published support what-so-ever.
Sleep it off, mate. Keep a pint of water and a bucket by the bed.
timpovikings 4 days ago
@aik, When you say you "win" who exactly are you trying to convince? Does it occur to you that you're displaying symptoms of a mental illness?
Newton503 3 days ago
@timpovikings
"Relatively high concentrations of HCN (>100 ppm) were generated from modacrylic, wool, Flamentin (fire retardant; a mixture or ammonium salts) treated cotton, etc.... MOST of the deaths in rats occurred during the 30 min exposure"
sadly, not all.
oh dear.
aikhooligan 4 days ago
@aikhooligan
Rats and wool.......how interesting.
And you saw this with your own eys, did you, mate?
Thaaaaaat's right. No.
timpovikings 4 days ago
timpovikings 4 days ago
@aikhooligan
I'll have to put this on the clock, aik. Sorry.
You have until January 2013 to answer.
timpovikings 4 days ago
@aikhooligan
I'm only asking.
timpovikings 5 days ago
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@aikhooligan "gas chamber executions...the preferred way for the nazis to efficiently exterminate large groups of persons..." (Christianson)
I'm glad we agree on Christianson, mate. But let's be honest, shall we? He confirms everything you deny and nothing that you claim by inferrence.
Priceless, aik. Another classic.
timpovikings 5 days ago
@aikhooligan
"i see the protocols. i see the gas chamber. i see the inmates graves."
...but you don't see a gassing take place.
Ho hum.
deconneurnot 3 days ago
@deconneurnot
let's pretend they never happened.
is the name change an admission of getting owned again?
just asking.
aikhooligan 3 days ago
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@aikhooligan
" let's pretend they never happened."
You've been doing that for years Rolf.
I'm just applying your rules of evidence Rolf my old mucker...you seem to object to that. Don't worry though, I intend to use it around you at all times.
"is the name change an admission of getting owned again?"
What name change would that be Rolf?
just asking.
deconneurnot 3 days ago
@aikhooligan
Switch the lights off as you leave, bright lad.
timpovikings 3 days ago
@timpovikings
OWNED ROYALLY.
wear it with pride, pip squeak.
aikhooligan 3 days ago
@aikhooligan You're an idiot. You should put down your 5th grade textbook and come back to reality! Do you believe all the propaganda your government spews at you?? I'm sure you've done some research too. LOL You are a joke!
bethadw 5 days ago
@bethadw
thanks lezbo.
aikhooligan 5 days ago
The truth is the enemy of liars.
danworthj 1 week ago
"Looks like the "damage control patrol" has come out as usual"
No shit.
ROFLMFAOOOOOOOOOO!
timpovikings 1 week ago
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@aikhooligan
Nope. Wrong again.
We have eyewitness testimony, science, three generations of study, published historians and perpetrator admissions you cannot match with any denials.
On penal gassings and your one pound theory, we also have the fact that you will not - and never will - say that one pound only kills one person. You therefore do not believe your own claims and know they are bogus.
What YOU have on penal gassings is.....eyewitness testimony......and that's it.
timpovikings 1 week ago 2
you all have to ask the question.
why did the shill run away?
LOVE IT.
aikhooligan 1 week ago
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timpovikings 1 week ago
this is what i do best. destroy it and own the debate.
its only option is to send in the gimp.
aikhooligan 1 week ago
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timpovikings 1 week ago
Looks like the "damage control patrol" has come out as usual - aikhooligan has sourced his material, has scientific validation, and professional parallel. Expostulations of keyboard excrement by liars who like to insure that their comments (lies) are more numerous,and last to be read, will not change that fact. The de-lousing chambers saved many who would have otherwised perished in the face of the typhus epidemic raging at the time. The liar's "gatekeeping" fails again! Shylock got his pound !
nein2alike 1 week ago 2
@nein2alike
the scientific evidence available will always prove us right.
this is the easiest it has ever been. we can't lose.
keep up the good work, mate.
aikhooligan 1 week ago
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nein2alike 1 week ago
Looks like the "damage control patrol" has come out as usual - aikhooligan has sourced his material, has scientific validation, and professional parallel. Expostulations of keyboard excrement by liars who like to insure that their comments (lies) are more numerous,and last to be read, will not change that fact. The de-lousing chambers saved many who would have otherwised perished in the face of the typhus epidemic raging at the time. The liar's "gatekeeping" fails again! Shylock got his pound !
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timpovikings 1 week ago
i have sources validated by holohoaxers. i have actual human deaths and amount of hcn used. no one died "immediately". and then we have the poor shill, that has eyewitness testimony of people dying "immediately" from hcn and no human corpses with amount of hcn used.
who do you believe.
aikhooligan 1 week ago
@aik, WHy don't you lock yourself in a room with HCN at a concentration of 12g per cubic meter and get back to us. Of course, it would be a while before anybody knew you were gone.
Newton503 1 week ago
@Newton503 "WHy don't you lock yourself in a room with HCN"
Why don't you shut the fuckup!!!
TheRedcatchop 1 week ago
@TheRedcatchop
Go get 'em, tiger.
Wipe out the opposition with your cutting edge intellect. ROFL!
timpovikings 1 week ago
@timpovikings "Wipe out the opposition "
Your no opposition! Your a skidmark on the underwear of this planet!
Buh-bye
TheRedcatchop 6 days ago
@red, What would be the harm in aik locking himself in a room with 12g of HCN per cubic meter? According to aik, that concentration isn't lethal. And if he's wrong, who would care?
Newton503 5 days ago
"A metal container is located beneath the seat of the chair, which contains one pound of cyanide pellets." - North Carolina Department of Corrections
"a pound of sodium cyanide pellets suspended in a gauze bag" - the California Corrections Department execution protocol.
"One pound of sodium-cyanide is placed in a container underneath the gas chamber chair." - The Arizona Department of Corrections
he validated the sources alright.
well done, scott.
you can pretend he didn't. i don't care.
aikhooligan 1 week ago
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@aikhooligan
I see. This is you with fingers in ears going, "La la la la la la la!", is it?
I completely understand, son.
"I only believe in what i can see"
timpovikings 1 week ago
@aikhooligan
Talk to illusionry, mate. A match made in heaven.
You can't debate - and he can't read.
You are utterly afraid to say categorically that one pound can only kill one man. You have no science, no sources, no professional parallel and Christianson has written an entire chapter on nazi gassings. He does not support you in any way, shape or form.
You can repeat your own posts in tantrum, but you still have diddly zip.
timpovikings 1 week ago
@timpovikings
a couple of hours sparring with me and it returns to spam.
good work, pip squeak.
aikhooligan 1 week ago
"Dinsmore arranged with the company to purchase a quantity of the substance sufficient for multiple executions, and Warden Dickerson announced that a vehicle would be dispatched to Los Angeles to haul the death-dealing equipment. The cyanide cost one dollar per pound, and twenty pounds were purchased, although only about one and a half pounds would be used for the initial execution." - the last gasp, scott christianson
aikhooligan 1 week ago
i didn't run from the debate.
guess who did?
aikhooligan 1 week ago
@aikhooligan
INTERROGATIONS by Richard Overy, page 381
Interrogation of Hoess at Nuremberg by Mr Sender Jaari - 2 April 1946
“The same thing happened as I already told you happened in the farmhouses. It depended on the weather conditions. If it were dry and a lot of people were in the gas chambers, it was comparatively fast…from three or five minutes to fifteen minutes.”
timpovikings 1 week ago
@aikhooligan
The reason you will not say that one pound of cyanide can kill only one person, is because you'd rather play the coward and let abductive reasoning and lying by omission do it for you.
The same reasons you won't debate it. You're afraid to.
And if you're afraid to take part - you can't win diddly.
timpovikings 1 week ago
has anyone EVER died "immediately" from hcn?
just asking.
corroborate that one, pip squeak.
aikhooligan 1 week ago
@aikhooligan
I won't demand verbatim quotes on one pound, mate.
I think you look stupid enough.
timpovikings 1 week ago
@aikhooligan
"the myth doesn't have averages. it says all dropped dead at the same time."
Nope. Wrong again.
"Through the peephole one could see that those who were near the air duct died immediately. It can be said that about a third died within a moment's notice. The others began to struggle, to scream, to choke. But very quickly the cries became death rattles, and, after a few minutes, all were on the ground. After a maximum of twenty minutes, nobody moved."
timpovikings 1 week ago
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@timpovikings
"Through the peephole one could see that those who were near the air duct died immediately. It can be said that about a third died within a moment's notice."
has anyone EVER died "immediately" from hcn?
the rest of the statement looks rather unreliable, wouldn't you think?
is that why you won't answer my question?
aikhooligan 1 week ago
@timpovikings
"it may have been ten to fifteen minutes, the gas chamber was opened. The dead lay higgledy-piggedly all over the place. It was a dreadful sight."
"ammonia is introduced to the chamber to neutralize the hydrocyanic gas. Staff don protective clothing, then enter the chamber to remove the body of? the deceased. Prior to removal, the body is washed down with water, a process to further assure that no cyanide residue remains" - North Carolina Department of Corrections
oops!
aikhooligan 1 week ago
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"This case is unusual in that survival without sequelae occurred despite exposure to HCN in the order of 500 mg/cu m for a six minute exposure, especially as treatment? was not initiated until approximately? 1 hr after exposure. Thus, survival with minimal sequelae can? occur." - [Bonsall JL; Hum Toxicol 3 (1): 57-60 (1984)]**PEER REVIEWED**
funny how everyone reacts differently to hcn.
pity the myth didn't take that into account.
aikhooligan 1 week ago
"the average time taken to kill them was 9.3 minutes"
for one person, using one pound.
what does the myth say again?
just asking.
aikhooligan 1 week ago
@aikhooligan
Penal gassing average time to loss of consciousness: 1 - 3 minutes
Penal gassing average time to death and formal pronouncement: 9 - 12 minutes.
The Holocaust evidence ranges from 3 to 15 minutes, depending on weather conditions/temperature.
Hoess and Stark fully corroborated
timpovikings 1 week ago
@timpovikings
"Through the peephole one could see that those who were near the air duct died immediately. It can be said that about a third died within a moment's notice."
does "immediately" mean "3 to 15 minutes" now?
the law of averages doesn't seem to apply in this case.
i do believe i win again.
aikhooligan 1 week ago
@aikhooligan
"does "immediately" mean "3 to 15 minutes" now?"
You ARE joking, though!
Does 1 pound for a penal gassing mean it takes the full one pound to kill one man?
Here I am producing quotes and sources - and you're ridiculing you quite happily without me.
timpovikings 1 week ago
@aikhooligan
Some other time, mate.
You're still - indubitably - wrong, desperate, amateur and shit.
Night Night. XXX
timpovikings 1 week ago
"lethal gas was so unpredictable in its consequences that condemned prisoners feared it much more than the electric chair." - The Transition of Methods of Execution in North Carolina: A Descriptive Social History of Two Time Periods, 1935 & 1983, Katrina Nannette Seitz
the myth doesn't think hcn is "unpredictable".
oops!
aikhooligan 1 week ago
@aikhooligan
""A study of the execution records of 113 prisoners executed at San Quentin showed that the average time taken to kill them was 9.3 minutes. The prisoner will usually lose consciousness between one and three minutes after the gas hits their face and the doctor will pronounce them dead in around 10 to 12 minutes. An exhaust fan then sucks the gas out of the chamber.” capitalpunishment uk
The reality says it actually is. According to your source!
timpovikings 1 week ago
20 minutes to kill one inmate.
priceless.
aikhooligan 1 week ago
thank goodness holohoax believer Scott Christianson validated my sources for me.
it made my job so easy.
thanks scott, you're a champ.
aikhooligan 1 week ago
@aikhooligan
Christianson also has a section on nazi gassings.
Just when you're ready.....
Can one pound of cyanide only kill one person?
Go on, son. You can do it. ;-)
timpovikings 1 week ago
@aikhooligan
If Christianson is so relliable, the last thing he does is validate you. He has an entire chapter on nazi genocide!
Can one pound of cyanide only kill one person?
Go on, son. You can do it. ;-)
timpovikings 1 week ago
@timpovikings
poor scott doesn't post any proof to back up the myth. but he sure did validate my sources for me.
this is a reality you need to come to terms with.
aikhooligan 1 week ago
@aikhooligan
ROFL! Do you stand on your head when you do number 2s, aik?
Mine detection by line-dancing. Awesome.
timpovikings 1 week ago
@timpovikings
the onus is on you to post evidence to prove the myth.
you clearly can't prove that one pound of cyanide can make 1000 people drop dead at the same time.
the penal gassings destroy the myth. each gassing had a very different outcome.
that explains the "ROFL!" and the song and dance routine returning.
oh dear.
aikhooligan 1 week ago
@aikhooligan
Nope. Wrong again.
You say it takes a pound to kill one person. The science and chemistry says not.
You have no science or chemistry whatsoever to support you. And you also don't have Christianson validating your sources - or you'd post him doing so.
And you can't. Because you only believe what you see.....and you never saw one. ;-)
timpovikings 1 week ago
@timpovikings
"This case is unusual in that survival without sequelae occurred despite exposure to HCN in the order of 500 mg/cu m for a six minute exposure, especially as treatment? was not initiated until approximately? 1 hr after exposure. Thus, survival with minimal sequelae can? occur." - [Bonsall JL; Hum Toxicol 3 (1): 57-60 (1984)]**PEER REVIEWED**
so much for your science and chemistry.
scott says 1 pound. i say 1 pound.
LOVE IT.
aikhooligan 1 week ago
@aikhooligan
We need an average over lots of cases, mate....not exceptions.
Christianson doe NOT say it takes one pound to kill one person, and more significantly....neither do you.
timpovikings 1 week ago
@timpovikings
the myth doesn't have averages. it says all dropped dead at the same time.
scott says they used one pound. did he not?
cry all you like, pip squeak.
aikhooligan 1 week ago
@aikhooligan
Nope. Wrong again.
The Holocaust narrative has various times to death.
Christianson does NOT say it takes a pound to kill one person.
I think we can see whose clinging to a line comprising lying by omission, mate.
timpovikings 1 week ago
@aikhooligan
"it says all dropped dead at the same time"
Does it really?
And where would that singular and all-defining quote appear?
timpovikings 1 week ago
@timpovikings
"After a few minutes there was silence."
"Through the peephole one could see that those who were near the air duct died immediately. It can be said that about a third died within a moment's notice."
"After about two minutes the shrieks die down and change to a low moaning. Most of the men have already lost consciousness. After a further two minutes, it is all over."
it would seem that the "average" doesn't apply to the myth.
oh dear.
aikhooligan 1 week ago
@aikhooligan
You don't improve with age or get any sharper, do you, mate?
Look on the bright side.
At least you got riled enough by your own fuck-ups to find your REPLY button!
timpovikings 1 week ago
Basically, this lie is still promoted so that the mono eyed powers can keep invading the middle east and fob it off as protecting israel.
That's the whole point of the ww2 holocaust noble lie.
DiggityMcD 1 week ago
He who controls the present controls the past. He who controls the past, controls the future.
Welcome to the noble lies of WW2, USS liberty, 911, WMD lies, Port Arthur, Branch Davidians, welcome to reality.
DiggityMcD 1 week ago
There has been more "gassings" perpetrated by hollowco$ters in this thread ( albeit the type predominantly used here is closer to that produced by the heinz variety) than never happened in non-existant gas chambers duringWW11. I - one amongst many, am a survivor of the hollowco$t, and our numbers are growing exponentially
nein2alike 1 week ago
@nein2alike
Once you crack syntax, clauses and basic participles, you're going to be a real handful, mate.
Meanwhile stick at it.
There is a dearth of mirth around these days - and yet you seem to have a natural flair for comedy.
timpovikings 1 week ago
"Dinsmore arranged with the company to purchase a quantity of the substance sufficient for multiple executions, and Warden Dickerson announced that a vehicle would be dispatched to Los Angeles to haul the death-dealing equipment. The cyanide cost one dollar per pound, and twenty pounds were purchased, although only about one and a half pounds would be used for the initial execution." - the last gasp, scott christianson
please don't spam scott. he didn't mean to bury you even deeper.
ouch.
aikhooligan 1 week ago
@aikhooligan
What does Scott Christianson say about nazi gas chambers, mate?
It's in the introduction and in Part 1 Section 8:
"The Third Reich...expanded upon it, developinig a huge industrial system to systematically slaughter millions of innocent men, women and children in an effort to carry out genocide against Jewish people and Gypsies, the mentally handicapped, homosexuals and political radicals"
Another schoolboy howler alert, and we're only half way through January.
timpovikings 1 week ago
@aikhooligan
I don't know why you and illusionry don't work together more often.
He can't fucking read either. ;-)
timpovikings 1 week ago
@aikhooligan - To some (one in particular, who repeatedly recieves and loves a good slapping - LOL! ROTFL!) a "REPLY button" is merely a codeword for "damage control button", which in this particular case, fails spectacularly every time without fail. I do, however, feel that Irene Zisblatt, Moshe Peer, and E-lie weasel would be proud of their efforts - ONE DIAMOND AT A TIME! Moshe Peer STILL to this day is the reigning champ surviving 6 gassings!
nein2alike 1 week ago
@nein2alike
surviving 6 gassings is truly remarkable. it's nearly as good as deflecting bullets with your chest.
it almost brings a tear to my eye.
aikhooligan 1 week ago
@aikhooligan
All I have ever asked, is that you tell us if one pound of cyanide can only kill one person?
timpovikings 1 week ago
@timpovikings
all you have to prove is that one pound of cyanide can make 1000 people drop dead at the same time.
go for it.
aikhooligan 1 week ago
@aikhooligan
Not what I asked, bright lad....so again.
Can one pound of cyanide only kill one person?
timpovikings 1 week ago
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@timpovikings
it's your myth to prove, pip squeak.
so, can one pound of cyanide make 1000 people drop dead at the same time?
go for it.
aikhooligan 1 week ago
@timpovikings
considering one pound of cyanide killed each inmate in variety of times. i don't like your chances.
what is your argument again?
aikhooligan 1 week ago
@aikhooligan
Er....go for it.
timpovikings 1 week ago
all i have ever asked for is one human death with amount of hcn used.
it can't provide anything to refute the penal gassings.
it spams sources, refuses to debate and attacks me with mindless drivel.
victory is sweet.
aikhooligan 1 week ago
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@aikhooligan
"all i have ever asked for is one human death with amount of hcn used."
Until you can show it took the whole pound, you have zip
"it can't provide anything to refute the penal gassings."
Where do we say we want to?
"it spams sources, refuses to debate and attacks me with mindless drivel."
Your wholly credible source is Christianson - who has a section on nazi genocide by gas. You have nothing to debate and once again, you've blown both feet off.
XXX
timpovikings 1 week ago
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In all this game, the devil is losing and at the end will be accused of everything because GOD don’t want any rivals. Conclusion: live at the full in the freedom of GOD (praying in a right form, following the INSTRUCTIONS in the Bible - keeping the 10 commandments - including keeping the Saturday as the 7th day etc.) instead of in the incapacity and limited power of devil because he is just a temporary puppet. Jesus Christ is our savior and our hope!
diptdipt 1 week ago
now the poor thing spams the sources.
love it.
aikhooligan 1 week ago
what i said was important to the shill, when it was asking me for sources.
then i posted the sources and it cried.
i great day was had by all.
aikhooligan 1 week ago
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@aikhooligan
As you - in your own words - "only believe in what i can see", and have clearly never witnessed a penal gassing, I suggest you drop the dropped capitals and join in - or do the other, sonny.
With avisionry we do at least have occasional debate. You can't seem to move beyond the statements you've already had rammed down your throat.
Don't overstretch, mate. You're a sideshow item. ;-)
timpovikings 2 weeks ago
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timpovikings 2 weeks ago
0:22 Lol.... Into these camps were send Jews, Prisoners of war, resistance fighters and Gypsies like whiteboy7thst
DailyInHD 2 weeks ago
Everybody knows Cyclone B was originally used to gas clothes.
Thats why it was used to gas people. It was readily available.
"...theater, gassing clothes, a small swimming pool...etc"
Strawman arguments. Whats your next argument? A picture of the parking lot and a claim that inmates where allowed to bring their vehicles...
Lobos222 2 weeks ago
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@avisionry
"They filmed everything else..."
Actually, they did not. Argumentum ex silentio is simply a self-defeating admission of ignorance. Abductive reasoning: one of the millstones of denial and worthless in this context
The SS - as you well know - also had a reputation for destroying evidence just before they ran away. It's one of the reasons we don't have any remains of Mr & Mrs Hitler who, as they never filmed it, obvioulsy never committed suicide, right?.
timpovikings 2 weeks ago
"...it would not be possible to use a portion of the land to build gas chambers"
Guess it wouldnt.
Got any film of the alleged homicidal gas chambers in use. Surely a jew, through the black markets inside the camps, smuggled a camera and filmed the whole grissly process.
No? Oh dear
The Germans, meticulous record keepers must have filmed the alledged HGCs?
They filmed everything else, the edelweiss, the smiling staff, the lichens on the tree trunks.
No?
Oh deary me
avisionry 2 weeks ago
@avisionry
That's the way, son. Resort to 'MUPPET' mode.
When you have less than nothing, use the 'no evidence as evidence' defence.
timpovikings 2 weeks ago
@timpovikings
Looks like our Ukranian friend is struggling. You think he knows Jimbo?
Just a thought.
deconneurnot 2 weeks ago
@deconneurnot
Struggling?
To revive an old naval expression, at the minute he's working like three men less!
timpovikings 2 weeks ago
@avisionry
"Eisenhower was a WWII criminal of epic preportions who was solely responsible for the deaths of over 1000000 Germans."
You got any film of this, then?
Mate, have you thought about sewing two Oxo cubes into a piece of chicken(!) skin and nestling the thing in the area of your perineum? It won't smell great, but it means you'll never be short of a decent gravy.
timpovikings 2 weeks ago
@timpovikings
Did someone mention "skin"????
Skin and lampshades yes?
(and like Ilse Koch) I collect lampshades.
Oh that's right she was innocent,
No lampshades then?
avisionry 2 weeks ago
@avisionry
!?
I don't know who told you you could debate, mate, but you really should raise your game above inane sniping.
How many more times, Mr Angry? If you want to discuss any subiect in this period of history, you only have to say and then adopt a very simple alternating post format, in keeping with reasonable standards of adult courtesy.
I can do it, so can dec, newt and MSM. If you can't, I suggest you stay in your safety zone and just ignore us.
timpovikings 2 weeks ago
@timpovikings
Do you know what Rolf is prattling on about?...cos I don't.
deconneurnot 1 week ago
@deconneurnot
Looks like he's having a bad day on cheap alcohol.
He's lost his script, his marbles and his REPLY button.
Love it.
timpovikings 1 week ago
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timpovikings 2 weeks ago
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timpovikings 2 weeks ago
@avisionry Why do still bother. You've got no argument and have to rely on logical fallacies. You're just weak.
Newton503 2 weeks ago