I think Kisame is more than this, is not shown what his real power is, neither he has died and also , by the way he talked about Tobi is known he is been knowing madara/tobi for a while ....also they haven't explained what's up with his shark face, as we know this is not a cartoon where animals talk (like DBZ) so, if he got a shark face there is a reason.
I bet Kisame is gonna play a big part at the end of the series =p
ya, even zabuza did, but kisame is really prob part shark, just like orochimaru is part snake...neither have ever been explained as to why they have animal qualities
its not that they are paert snake or shark its that they are sages to the animals typr likr jiraiya has line patterns and a wart on his nose and they have made pacts with the animal its strange but i doubt that they could biologicaly be part animal
they aren't sages...never was it mentioned that they are sages..and if they were, they wouldn't be able to look like that all the time. jiraiya only looks like a frog when he goes into sage mode which he cannot sustain forever..
ntm, they coudl be biologically part animal because this is a cartoon with magical powers. just like how kidomaru has 6 arms and sakon is made up of twins that can fuse together..
Is not that they are part animals because in this anime the only way to get animal features is by knowing the jutsu.
the forth hokage explains this thing about making pacts with animals and he also has one , a monkey, he says everyone has his own animal, Naruto was frog haha, same as jiraiya.
Orochimaru and Kisame also unlocked their animal aswell, but these guys are all the time in animal mode.
funny thing is that 3 of them were part of the "7 swordmen" , and 1 was an aspirant, so people beleive is a tradition/initiation to enter the grop, but we don't know the truth yet.
any time you see sharp teeth = 7th swordmen.
But in part, what you said is also true:
well, is know that...
SPOILER ALERT!!!!
Kisame's true power is to fusion with his sword and he will become a monster, although we haven't seen that monster, we know will be a shark.
yeah, Kisame fuses with his sword and suppouse to become a monster as strong as tails mosnters (I'm positive will be a shark) and I'm sure we will know why he got a shark face hehe, but we will see him next manga =)
wow wow wait is that wat the manga said??? i though it said the combination of kisame and the sword is as strong as a bijju not that they fuse and turn into a monster. but i will check again
I've never seen a pathetic ass guy who lies about what he says and den delete shit to cover up LMAO.. fuicking pathetic... now if you excuse me.. you should go find those comments and delete them before other people see this and target you again :D
LIKE I SAID.. U KNOW WAT U SAID.. THERES NO POINT for u to argue.. jz be gone and deal with it lmao only a loser like u would deny that u got ti wrong... dont worry ur a big loser :D
ROFL THATS FUNNY cause ur the nigga whos lying.. everyone knows it LMAO... sorry ur shit is wrong now ur gotta try to piss me off that doesnt work LOL
WOW ur that low ROFL ur seriously gunna try to lie abotu what you said.??? thast fucking funny LOL!! pathetic.. cause u know exactly wat u said.. thats why u even argued in begining... but i guess ur jz a loser lmao cant even admit ur wrong
yes hate me more , curse me,, and detest me and use that to survive please LOLOLLOL stop copying me please
nigga are u stupid or wat to not remember what you wrote.. it wasnt on this video stupid it was in one of the manga.. go find out by urself.. u alread know ur dead wrong about "god susanoo" and its the truth lmao .. u sound like an idiot making bullshit up and saying u own japanese shit but in the end ur wrong :D
wtf..? nobody lost in the susanoo debate but you.. u sat there and say you know everything about susanoo and it was completely wrong LMAO... and btw stop sounding lik e a dumbass with your PS comment... u sound like and idiot lol
me and 3223432 others put it down and say that we KNOW IT CARRIES risks... u were the only dumbass who kept saying U know EVERYTHING and that Susanoo doesnt carry risk.. so im pointin out the fact that ur a dumbass and arrogant lmao
LMAO stop ur btiching u shit bag... u know ur shit was wrong.. now ur embarrassed cause the new manga came out and it says exactly the opposite wat you said you knew LMAO
UR THEORY WAS "SUSANOO IS GOD.... USER DOESNT GET HURT OR ANYTHING" so dont try to twist ur shit noob.. u know ur a bitch for trying to change ur shit... scroll down and look at wat u said 3 months ago
NO bitch... ur the fucker who said USING SUSANOO DOESNT DAMAGE THE HOST AT ALL.. U went around bragging how you live in japan and no manga says that... SO ur theory was WRONG bitch dont try to twist ur shit
Actualy u saw the newest manga and still said ur "theorY" was correct which was stupid.. im comparing it to show u how much of a dumbass u are for always arguin
no..zetsu even said it that using susanoo has a high risk using in fight of sasuke and itachi..i just didnt consider it as one of the reason why itachi died. i didnt said that u will be killed if u use susanoo. O_O but i said theres a high risk on it.
and also using susanoo will not make ur eye blind. but if u use mangekyou always ur eye will be blurred. just like itachi was. and u will be permanently blind if u have the power to control the kyubi. that the price u pay for controlling it.
susanoo+sickness= dead(which is is the reason why itachi died.) if itachi did not use susanoo mybe he still alive ryt now..but itachi being dead is also itachis plan. he just want to transfer all his tech to sasuke >.>
hmm re read the manga where sasuke and itachi fight..even zetsu said that susano has a high risk using it after he sees itachi bleeding. using susanoo make itachi's sickness more in effect. as i thought USING SUSANOO+HIS SICKNESS = DEAD
Maybe you dont speak english well so you dont know wtf we're trying to say to you.. its jz funny how ur super wrong from back then and always called people newbie for reading it in america...
ok iono wtf u jz said but eyea... why dont u go find ur old post.. u were th eonly fag who kept saying how you lived in japan and none of ur shit say that susanoo has risks.... u were the one who always thought u knew everything abotu naruto but it was wrong as fuck lol...
You WERE THE one who said using susa noo has NO RISK.. WHY DONT U SCROLL ALL the way down and find ur old posts... u were always saying how susanoo has NO RISK and that itachi died from ONLY sickness
dont comment if u r only giving theories while the manga gives the fact already. on the latest manga today sasuke said that hes body cell is burning from using an INCOMPLETE SUSANoo!!
i also thought that theres no risk using it. but when sasuke said that it has a huge risk on using it. hes also thinking if hes on this pain, how the hell itachi survive an complete susanoo while he has a sick already. this the reason why itachi died. susanoo risk+sickness = dead.
BTW.. how can you say that using suanoo doesnt make you die?? cant u see how much pain sasukes in.. hes saying all his cells are about to burst.... u dont think continue using it will kill him? now imagine itachi's susanoo which is complete.. dont u think it might have hurt even more?... so how can u say ur correct wtf?
You always sat there and say that SUSANOO doesnt do anything to the user... its "god" susanoo.. now u sit here and say that u never said that.. bs. like i said.. Continueing using susanoo would have killed sasuke cause his shit aint even complete and hes in so much pain.. imagine wat happened to itachi.
umm.. No ur still wrong... u always say It doesnt have ANY RISKS... u even keep arguing with peopleand say that in japan its riskfree... and all of sasuke cell went krayz after using it... so any further using of it will prolaby kill him... even he admits that HIS susanoo isnt complete but hes feeling this bad.. so itachis susanoo probably even hurt him more.
Ok.. I guess ur wrong.. u keep claiming you have the japanese version and that susanoo poses no risk.. but guess what..?? thE NEW MANGA IS OUT AND IT IS SUPER SUPER RISKY TO USE SUSANOO..... it was predictable anyways how can a godly move like that has no risk?
i like how everyone thinks they know everything about naruto..it is as the writer writes it..somethings are left to the imagination for a reason..thats good writing..pointless arguing...omg someone on the internet is wrong! i must tell them!
man now that you see the new manga.. everyn knows MANGEKYOU SHARINGAN is god mode.... even sasuke is fightin agaisnt KAGE level ninjas. So if you say itachi is afraid of jiraiya.. thats just stupid
well i think that he might be afraid because...when in sage mode you do not use chakra right?so tsukyomi is useless it cant effect you,secondly in sage mode you are quite fast so you can avoid amaterasu just like raikage did-the only problem is the susanno-so maybe not jiraya but naruto could have a good chance to win against that idiot sasuke....sorry but i dont like him he is made too perfect absolutely ideal...hate it
Tsukuyomi would still work for one, and Naruto wouldn't be able to avoid Amaterasu, and Susanoo puts you in a genjutsu for ever if he even gets tapped by it, so er..
tsukyoumi wouldn't work if naruto uses his bijuu like killerbee.with a bit of luck naruto just might be able to evade amaterasu. sasuke could be beaten by rasenshuriken if i gets weakened from using mangekyo..but i agree sasuke is still a bit stronger than naruto
Who knows if the Nine-tails has the same genjutsu resistance as the Eight-taiks, and Naruto doesn't rely on his tails beast anymore. With a little luck... -.-'
And I STILL think Itachi gave Naruto the abiltity to resist his eye techniques.
it does need alot of skill to break out of a genjutsu from that level with a bijuu but the most powerful genjutsu in existence is not escapable (tsukoyomi)
umm.. sasuke used tsukonyomi on the 8 tails and he broke out .... didnt u see sasuke cover up his eyes in pain and was on his mangekyou after he used it? thats how u know he used tsukoyomi
umm no.. the left eye in sasukes mangeakyou IS tsukoyomi.. and his right eye is AMETARASU... ... so for u to say that its not...its wrong.. cause sasuke's techinques are identical to itachi's technique.
wtf u talknig about lol.. itachi used it on sasuke and he BROKE OUT OF IT... the only genjutsu not breakable is the one from the SWORD used by itachi's susanoo. and 8 tails already broke out of tsukoyomi
Itachi never showed his real power due to him still being loyal to Konoha , he never would harm Naruto , Kakashi , Jiraya or Sasuke .
He's still so powerfull that he would be a match for Pein and probably could kill Naruto with a genjutsu , he told Kakashi that only and S posessor , and specificly an Uchia could only defeath him . (but I still think Pein could win cuz of Rinnegan)
What are you talking about? One hit by Susanoo's sword and Naruto will be put into an ulternate universe/in a genjutsu 4ever. It is also IMPOSSIBLE to resist the genjutsu. And while Susanoo is activated the shield it is carrying makes him invulnerable.
just wondering but...do you know what an opinion is? anyway i don't really even care i'm just saying cuz you guys make it sound like the characters are real. (and have you ever stopped to think that retarded isn't the most intellectual word?)
We're not taking it seriously. It's more like a debate between fans. Don't come in here trying to act cool, "The characters aren't real." Shut uuuuuuuuuup.
We aren't getting worked up though. Some of us are big fans and like to discuss Naruto. Sometimes we can get a bit over overzealous b/c we a such big fans, but in the end, it's just a friendly debate. There was no need for you to try and talk down to us and say, "This is a show. The characters aren't real." Wow that is so profound. If you don't want to take part of the debate, that's cool, but there's no need to act so high and mighty.
oh really? it sounded that way? sorry, i guess. i wasn't trying to act "high and mighty" as you put it. but still, i mean that's no reason to act all high and mighty yourself and try to make yourself look all cool looking down on ME or anyone else who says the characters aren't real WHICH is a true fact, of course there's no point to argue over the subject
okay sure you 'win' lol whatever. i'm tired of fighting with you because it's just a waste of my time anyway when i have better things to be doing. so good bye
I'm not debating whether or not Naruto won the fight. He obviously did. And you can't really compare "Naruto has many allies and a formidable jutsu" to knowing detailed info about Pain. Naruto while being very strong would have probably lost that fight w/o info. But you are right. It doesn't matter b/c Naruto did in fact win.
guys guys. we haven't seen the whole shit yet. there may be som coutner to tsukiyomi or amaterasu. or maybe, naruto being the guy he is, can take a tsukiyomi or amaterasu. he is the main character so...yeah. and he'll probably find a way to mix together with ma and pa, thus tsukiyomi genjutsu would be pointless
Tsukuyomi has a duration of like two seconds like I keep saying, and chances are Naruto wouldn't even summon Ma and Pa, and this is just a friendly conversation, or rather me trying to explain something which he wont take in.
no not really. pain was not supposed to kill Naruto. he had naruto caught but if it weren't for hinata interfering naruto would not be turned to kyuubi therefore naruto would be screwed. naruto didn't beat pain. technically it was the kyuubi.
Well with Naruto battles/fights, all that matters are results, not the tools and powers one uses to get these results. One could argue that Sasuke/Itachi would be nothing without there Sharingans, but the fact is they have them. Likewise, Naruto has the Kyubbi, and if he can use the Kyubbi powers to achieve these results, it makes him powerful.
Yeh but the sharingan is itachi and sasuke's OWN power. kyuubi however is not naruto's power, it his the kyuubi's power. when naruto comes to 4 tails or more its no longer naruto fighting its the kyuubi.
Yes and no. I agree w/ you that Itachi and Sasuke have control over their Sharingan, making it their own power. However, it is still within Naruto's power to use the fox. It helped him win his fight w/ Neji. It helped him win the fight w/ Gaara, and so forth. And like I said, all that matters are the results of these fights, and if he can accomplish them w/ the fox, although he can't control it, it still makes him powerful/dangerous.
Just for those saying that Itachi > Naruto, that is technically incorrect since Itachi can only maintain Susanoo (his one hope of victory) for a mere few minutes. Also, genjutsu does not affect naruto in sage mode (he stops his charka flow). So technically, Naruto is currently stronger then Itachi and Sasuke (Sasuke since he basically lost to Itachi - Only won because Itachi let him).
the only way naruto might be able to pull off sage mode is if he prep it up before meeting itachi.... if he were to fight itachi on the spot... or anyone for that matter.. he has no time to go on sage mode
I havn't read the manga, spoilers =D Although, Hm, sasuke borrowed basically all his moves from others, like orichimaru's seal, sword, snake moves, and his sharingan from himself.
But he didn't use genjutsu before though, does he need that to win?
Sage Mode doesn't stop the chakra flow, the energy of nature just blends into it senjutsu chakra, and you forgot about Amaterasu, the strongest ninjutsu in existance, Itachi just needs to focus on Naruto then he gets burned by fire that is as hot as the sun. He could also use Tsukuyomi, which can only be countered if you have a Sharingan. Itachi is the worst match for Naruto, only chance he has against Itachi is if he faces him when he has the unknown disease/close to blindness.
The Tsukuyomi wouldn't work on Naruto if Ma and Pa forced their chakra through Naruto. But I agree w/ you though; Naruto has no way to counter the Susanoo or the Amaterasu.
I bet most of the time Naruto wont have Ma and Pa with him though. The only reason they were they against Pain was because Naruto was at Myobokuzan before hand.
Naruto doesn't rely on summoning jutsu that much, and if he did he would most likely go Gamabunta. Only reason Jiraiya summoned them is to access sage mode, while it doesn't work on Naruto. The only use they got is the genjutsu and it takes awhile to load up/gives away your position. Especially against an opponent like Itachi it wouldn't be a good idea.
WTF are you talking about. He can summon whichever toad he chooses, and I have not seen evidence that he can't do so. Also, I said he would use them to counter the genjitsu, not to use a genjitsu. Using one would be pointless against a Sharingan. And why are you talking about Itachi? He's dead.
I never said he couldn't summon toads, I said he doesn't rely on it much, regardless why am I talking about? You can't stop Tsukuyomi because the duration of can be Tsukuyomi is like 2 seconds! Remember Sasuke and Kakashi being hospitalized for weeks?
Haha, I don't think it would work on Naruto though. Remember when Sasuke tried to use genjitsu on Killerbee, it barely worked for a second, and Naruto and the frogs would be prepared for it. It wouldn't work.
No they wouldn't, unless they were like right next to Naruto constantly pushing chakra into him, and Sasuke didn't use Tsukuyomi, Tsukuyomi = one of the best genjutsu/impossible to get out of unless you are an Uchiha that has their Sharingan. Naruto wouldn't be able to get out of it, remember? He got stuck in lesser genjutsu's all the time, even when Itachi was a clone. Tsukuyomi takes like
1/10th of a second to do its worst, and then Itachi also has Amaterasu/Susanoo. Itachi is a bloody god!
Haha, yeah that's why he's dead. And yes Naruto did get stuck in lesser genjitsu in the past, but he wasn't as strong then as he was now. I still don't the ANY genjitsu would work on Naruto if he has them there w/ him, Tsukiyomi or not.
First off Itachi is only died because he chose to, secondly Naruto can't counter Tsukuyomi, it is to powerful to get out of, especially without the Sharingan, and like I keep saying, the frogs wouldn't have time to push there chakra into them, and chances are they wont even be there. Oh also Itachi gave a portion of his powers to Naruto to! And even if he got out of Tsukuyomi Itachi still has Amaterasu and Susanoo, and his taijutsu/non eye tech ninjutsu.
Yeah I know all about Itachi, but it still doesn't change the fact that he's dead. I don't even know why you are talking about him. I'm talking about him and Sasuke. As for the Tsukuyami, I still don't think it will work on Naruto especially if they plan ahead for it. And it's most likely the frogs will be w/ him/he will summon them. Its not smart to fight a Sharingan one on one, esp a MS.
The frogs can't stay on Naruto because the Nine-tails rejects them, and it is fine to talk about dead people vs alive people ^_^ makes a interesting conversation. Naruto vs. Sasuke, obviously Naruto is going to win, or Sasuke will win and then not kill Naruto and go back to Konoha or something, at the moment I don't know how Naruto will counter Sasuke's new eye techniques, or maybe Itachi gave him the power to resist them or something just in case Sasuke turned to more revenge. /shrug
The frogs just can't attach to him like they did Jiraiya, but they can still battle along side him. Also Naruto can counter 2 of Sasuke's eye techniques. They only one he can't counter is the Susanoo.
Ugh, like I keep saying Naruto barely ever uses summoning, chances are he wont have the frogs with him, and Tsukuyomi is to fast to do add the chakra flow at the right time/it is to powerful, and how would he counter Amaterasu?
Wind Element is weak against fire for one thing, (Wind attribute makes the fire bigger) and second Amaterasu is unextinguishable, well only Madara can, and Jiraiya can seal it away.
Wind Element is weak against fire, and Amaterasu is one of the strongest ninjutsu in existance, only Madara, and Sasuke's Mangekyou can extinguish it, Jiraiya could only seal it away.
You also need to take into consideration that naruto is the best KAGE bushin user there is... even if sasuke uses ametarasu.... its probably gunna hit a fake clone and cause sasuke to waste chakra and endurance. Sasuke's gunna go blind fighting naruto if he keeps using it on the wrong clone
he wont be able to tell which is real if he jz shoots the ametarasu at a clone thats attacking him.. Narutos used clones to trick itachi and even kakashi when he fought them before
I actually didn't think the Amaterasu could be countered, but the Raikage did using a clone or something. Naruto could probably do the same. Also, I hear what you're saying about the Tsukuyomi, but I still disagree with you. No matter how powerful, it is still a genjitsu. When Sasuke used genjitsu on Killerbee, it barely lasted for a second, and he wasn't even prepared for it. Naruto would be, so I don't think it would work.
Raikage used his crazy fast Body Flicker Technique (which is being crazy fast) to avoid it, and the Sharingan can see through clones. Tsukuyomi is tougher to get out of, Itachi even said only a person with the Uchiha blood and the Sharingan can shake it off, "No matter how powerful, it is still a genjitsu" the more powerful the illusion makes it harder to counter. Naruto wouldn't know when it would be coming, he just needs to gaze in the user's eyes then WAM.
Haha, oh is that what he used. It looked like Sasuke put the Amaterasu on him and he made a Lightning clone to get out of it. That's one of the things I hate about reading the manga; sometimes I can't see what's going on. I wish it was in color. As for the Tsukuyami, I still think he could get out of it. Also why wouldn't he see it coming. He's fought Itachi before, and he knows what the MS can do. I find it hard to believe he would head into a fight w/ Sasuke w/o a way to counter it.
Also I hear what you're saying about it being stronger and all that, but I still believe he can counter it. While it might be stronger, I'm pretty sure if Naruto was prepared for it, he could dispel it immediately.
Only reason Killer Bee got out of it was because he was in four tails, and it was a lesser genjutsu. Naruto wouldn't rely on the Nine-tails, and the thing is Tsukuyomi would come instantly without warning, I don't see how he could predect it coming ^_^. And he only fought a clone of Itachi/a non attempting Itachi.
Well it wasn't really being in the 4-tails state as much as it was that he had the Bijuu there to snap him out of it aka his other person. Also, I didn't say he could predict it coming. He can't, but he knows Sasuke can use it, and I find that in ninja battles preparation usually makes a big difference. But who knows, I may be wrong, but I think he could counter it.
Killer Bee is able to use the Eight-Tails to block his chakra to break illusions, even ones cast from a Mangekyo Sharingan, Naruto doesn't have the ability. And I meant three tails not four sorry ^_^. I don't think he knows that Sasuke has Itachi's eye techniques, well maybe Madara told Naruto. I also think he will counter it, well if Sasuke uses it, but I think Naruto will be alot stronger when they have there final fight, and as for right now I don't see how he will get around it.
No I think you are right actually. I did some digging, and you cannot cancel the Tsukuyomi. I'm pretty sure Sasuke didn't cancel, just overpowered it, which you would need a Sharingan to do. And Naruto will probably get stronger for that last fight which will be epic. If Team 7 ever reunited, that would be ridiculous...
that black flame at the end it called amaterasu you can only have it when you have Madara's Sharingan but Itachi he will plant it inside sasuke .. but thats a nother story xD
thats not quite right ...the amaterasu is a part of the mangekyu sharingan- it is a technique that is not given by madara but by controlling the sharingan on a higher level
lol,pein vs itachi...come on ppl wake up...we saw pein at his strongest,but we havent seen itachi. also itachi was dying and you saw how pein looked like shit.if pein handnt lost his legs and itachi wasnt sick then we would have a fight.
Please. Pain did not look like shit. He beat Jiraiya, and still revived all 6 bodies after that big ass fight. Naruto's just had the benefit of having information, or he probably wouldn't have been able to defeat all 6 bodies. And he still had to use the 9 tails. Also we don't know how much chakra he used destroying Konoha before Naruto arrived. Itachi and Pain were both powerful.
thats stupid... so youre saying if i throw a rock at itachi.. he'll use susanoo to seal up a rock in an eternal genjutsu LMAO. stop saying God susanoo and then goin to japan this and that... at least argue ur points to them lol
No one needs to come to Tokyo for anything. Let's say it didn't use life force. During that fight, Zetsu says that Itachi uses the Susanoo at a big risk to himself. That alone tells you the Susanoo is not something he can just use at a whim. So he shouldn't use it unless he has to. You can't deny that; that's in the manga. Also, what good would it do to trap a dead body in an eternal genjitsu? It would be like trapping one of Kankuro's puppets in a never ending genjitsu. Pointless.
It makes perfect sense. You don't seem to grasp the fact that the Susanoo would be useless. If he used it, the Sword it carries wouldn't work on the bodies of Pain. The shield would work however, but how long could he keep that up? No for very long. Haha, you can't even argue your points. You just keep repeating the Susanoo's invincible. Technically it is, but it has it's flaws. It's not something one can use over and over. or sustain for very long.
No, haven't you been listening. He wouldn't use the Susanoo. Not only does it shorten his life span, but it the sword it wields doesn't work against corpses which is what the bodies of Pain are. Using the Susanoo would just be a waste of chakra, and he can't sustain it forever.
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daniobeita 2 years ago
srsly yo you little kitties plz stfu mad annoying. can u stop argueing about dumb shit and plz stop with the "LOLOL"?
mlbatman 2 years ago
all dumbass replying each other with shitty and useless comments
jackuy12345 2 years ago
I think Kisame is more than this, is not shown what his real power is, neither he has died and also , by the way he talked about Tobi is known he is been knowing madara/tobi for a while ....also they haven't explained what's up with his shark face, as we know this is not a cartoon where animals talk (like DBZ) so, if he got a shark face there is a reason.
I bet Kisame is gonna play a big part at the end of the series =p
OrcWyvern 2 years ago 4
oh yeah, animals talk, but you know what I mean... if they are not part of a jutsu or something like that...
I hope i explained myself.
OrcWyvern 2 years ago
id whats with mist village people lol some have sharp teeth like wtf lol
kaliedoscopesharinga 2 years ago
kisame has sharp teeth because i think that he is half shark
awesomeman373 2 years ago
nah he is just sharkish and nah alot of people from mist village have them raiga suigestsu its all the people from the seven swordsman have em
kaliedoscopesharinga 2 years ago
ya, even zabuza did, but kisame is really prob part shark, just like orochimaru is part snake...neither have ever been explained as to why they have animal qualities
bloodicecream 2 years ago
its not that they are paert snake or shark its that they are sages to the animals typr likr jiraiya has line patterns and a wart on his nose and they have made pacts with the animal its strange but i doubt that they could biologicaly be part animal
kaliedoscopesharinga 2 years ago
they aren't sages...never was it mentioned that they are sages..and if they were, they wouldn't be able to look like that all the time. jiraiya only looks like a frog when he goes into sage mode which he cannot sustain forever..
ntm, they coudl be biologically part animal because this is a cartoon with magical powers. just like how kidomaru has 6 arms and sakon is made up of twins that can fuse together..
bloodicecream 2 years ago
I agree with you
"Kaleidoscopesharinga"
Is not that they are part animals because in this anime the only way to get animal features is by knowing the jutsu.
the forth hokage explains this thing about making pacts with animals and he also has one , a monkey, he says everyone has his own animal, Naruto was frog haha, same as jiraiya.
Orochimaru and Kisame also unlocked their animal aswell, but these guys are all the time in animal mode.
OrcWyvern 2 years ago
no actualy kisame and orochimaru are brothers there dad had sex with sharks and snakes
BAZUKASH 2 years ago
nahhh most ninjas from where kisame was from has sharp teeth ^^
kevinzki21 2 years ago
kisame, zabuza, Suigetsu, and Chojuro
funny thing is that 3 of them were part of the "7 swordmen" , and 1 was an aspirant, so people beleive is a tradition/initiation to enter the grop, but we don't know the truth yet.
any time you see sharp teeth = 7th swordmen.
But in part, what you said is also true:
well, is know that...
SPOILER ALERT!!!!
Kisame's true power is to fusion with his sword and he will become a monster, although we haven't seen that monster, we know will be a shark.
OrcWyvern 2 years ago
he doesent fuse with the sword? and yeah i think raiga had em too
kaliedoscopesharinga 2 years ago
yeah, Kisame fuses with his sword and suppouse to become a monster as strong as tails mosnters (I'm positive will be a shark) and I'm sure we will know why he got a shark face hehe, but we will see him next manga =)
"kisame vs killer bee"
finally will see kisame's real power.
OrcWyvern 2 years ago
they meant that him as long as he has that weapon has the amount of chakra and a tailed beast not that he is one
kaliedoscopesharinga 2 years ago
wow wow wait is that wat the manga said??? i though it said the combination of kisame and the sword is as strong as a bijju not that they fuse and turn into a monster. but i will check again
BAZUKASH 2 years ago
well... to tell you the truth is just a rumor lol
but we will see >_>
OrcWyvern 2 years ago
yeah his mom was a shark and his dad was a human
BAZUKASH 2 years ago
wow u were right enough naruto 468 talks abt his power and he's about to fight killer bee
mlbatman 2 years ago
You're both fucking pathetic.
tsnaruto 2 years ago
OMJ! (Oh my jashin) They are! I was going to post the same comment! They should just shut up. No one wants to read this stupi, pathetic fight.
Gamerscanbgurls4 2 years ago
I've never seen a pathetic ass guy who lies about what he says and den delete shit to cover up LMAO.. fuicking pathetic... now if you excuse me.. you should go find those comments and delete them before other people see this and target you again :D
krayzvi3tblue 2 years ago
LIKE I SAID.. U KNOW WAT U SAID.. THERES NO POINT for u to argue.. jz be gone and deal with it lmao only a loser like u would deny that u got ti wrong... dont worry ur a big loser :D
krayzvi3tblue 2 years ago
ROFL THATS FUNNY cause ur the nigga whos lying.. everyone knows it LMAO... sorry ur shit is wrong now ur gotta try to piss me off that doesnt work LOL
krayzvi3tblue 2 years ago
WOW ur that low ROFL ur seriously gunna try to lie abotu what you said.??? thast fucking funny LOL!! pathetic.. cause u know exactly wat u said.. thats why u even argued in begining... but i guess ur jz a loser lmao cant even admit ur wrong
yes hate me more , curse me,, and detest me and use that to survive please LOLOLLOL stop copying me please
krayzvi3tblue 2 years ago
nigga are u stupid or wat to not remember what you wrote.. it wasnt on this video stupid it was in one of the manga.. go find out by urself.. u alread know ur dead wrong about "god susanoo" and its the truth lmao .. u sound like an idiot making bullshit up and saying u own japanese shit but in the end ur wrong :D
krayzvi3tblue 2 years ago
HIS SHARNGAN ISN"T ON AT 0:21! COOL!
Gamerscanbgurls4 2 years ago
Pretty obvious you went and dleted it you noob lmao.... nigg ayou know wat u said.. thers no point lying now trying to be cool rookie
krayzvi3tblue 2 years ago
wtf..? nobody lost in the susanoo debate but you.. u sat there and say you know everything about susanoo and it was completely wrong LMAO... and btw stop sounding lik e a dumbass with your PS comment... u sound like and idiot lol
krayzvi3tblue 2 years ago
me and 3223432 others put it down and say that we KNOW IT CARRIES risks... u were the only dumbass who kept saying U know EVERYTHING and that Susanoo doesnt carry risk.. so im pointin out the fact that ur a dumbass and arrogant lmao
krayzvi3tblue 2 years ago
LMAO stop ur btiching u shit bag... u know ur shit was wrong.. now ur embarrassed cause the new manga came out and it says exactly the opposite wat you said you knew LMAO
krayzvi3tblue 2 years ago
UR THEORY WAS "SUSANOO IS GOD.... USER DOESNT GET HURT OR ANYTHING" so dont try to twist ur shit noob.. u know ur a bitch for trying to change ur shit... scroll down and look at wat u said 3 months ago
krayzvi3tblue 2 years ago
NO bitch... ur the fucker who said USING SUSANOO DOESNT DAMAGE THE HOST AT ALL.. U went around bragging how you live in japan and no manga says that... SO ur theory was WRONG bitch dont try to twist ur shit
krayzvi3tblue 2 years ago
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wqertrykjhkhgc 2 years ago
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wqertrykjhkhgc 2 years ago
Actualy u saw the newest manga and still said ur "theorY" was correct which was stupid.. im comparing it to show u how much of a dumbass u are for always arguin
krayzvi3tblue 2 years ago
and i think madara's one eye has gone becoz thats the price he pays for controlling the 9 tails.
and now he wants it to be back. i really now think if thats hes moon eye plan
wqertrykjhkhgc 2 years ago
no..zetsu even said it that using susanoo has a high risk using in fight of sasuke and itachi..i just didnt consider it as one of the reason why itachi died. i didnt said that u will be killed if u use susanoo. O_O but i said theres a high risk on it.
and also using susanoo will not make ur eye blind. but if u use mangekyou always ur eye will be blurred. just like itachi was. and u will be permanently blind if u have the power to control the kyubi. that the price u pay for controlling it.
wqertrykjhkhgc 2 years ago
yeah kenshinzonex ur ryt..
susanoo+risk = no dead
susanoo+sickness= dead(which is is the reason why itachi died.) if itachi did not use susanoo mybe he still alive ryt now..but itachi being dead is also itachis plan. he just want to transfer all his tech to sasuke >.>
wqertrykjhkhgc 2 years ago
using mangkyou sharingan causes ur eyes bleed. using susano cause ur body cells burns like hell it was been said by sasuke in 466 manga.
wqertrykjhkhgc 2 years ago
maybe he used mangekyo sharingan?
watsakorn 2 years ago
coz when itachi starting to use susanoo then he start bleeding also.
wqertrykjhkhgc 2 years ago
hmm re read the manga where sasuke and itachi fight..even zetsu said that susano has a high risk using it after he sees itachi bleeding. using susanoo make itachi's sickness more in effect. as i thought USING SUSANOO+HIS SICKNESS = DEAD
wqertrykjhkhgc 2 years ago
Maybe you dont speak english well so you dont know wtf we're trying to say to you.. its jz funny how ur super wrong from back then and always called people newbie for reading it in america...
krayzvi3tblue 2 years ago
Yes i jz want to show everone how big of a dumbass you are to say you know EVERYTHIng about naruto lmao
krayzvi3tblue 2 years ago
ok iono wtf u jz said but eyea... why dont u go find ur old post.. u were th eonly fag who kept saying how you lived in japan and none of ur shit say that susanoo has risks.... u were the one who always thought u knew everything abotu naruto but it was wrong as fuck lol...
krayzvi3tblue 2 years ago
You WERE THE one who said using susa noo has NO RISK.. WHY DONT U SCROLL ALL the way down and find ur old posts... u were always saying how susanoo has NO RISK and that itachi died from ONLY sickness
krayzvi3tblue 2 years ago
just read the manga if u dont fucking believe it!
wqertrykjhkhgc 2 years ago
dont comment if u r only giving theories while the manga gives the fact already. on the latest manga today sasuke said that hes body cell is burning from using an INCOMPLETE SUSANoo!!
i also thought that theres no risk using it. but when sasuke said that it has a huge risk on using it. hes also thinking if hes on this pain, how the hell itachi survive an complete susanoo while he has a sick already. this the reason why itachi died. susanoo risk+sickness = dead.
wqertrykjhkhgc 2 years ago
BTW.. how can you say that using suanoo doesnt make you die?? cant u see how much pain sasukes in.. hes saying all his cells are about to burst.... u dont think continue using it will kill him? now imagine itachi's susanoo which is complete.. dont u think it might have hurt even more?... so how can u say ur correct wtf?
krayzvi3tblue 2 years ago
Basically everyone was right.. and u were WRONG
krayzvi3tblue 2 years ago
You always sat there and say that SUSANOO doesnt do anything to the user... its "god" susanoo.. now u sit here and say that u never said that.. bs. like i said.. Continueing using susanoo would have killed sasuke cause his shit aint even complete and hes in so much pain.. imagine wat happened to itachi.
krayzvi3tblue 2 years ago
Eternal mangekyou sharingan makes you NOT GO BLIND... doesnt mean it poses no risks... we dont even know wat it does yet..
krayzvi3tblue 2 years ago
umm.. No ur still wrong... u always say It doesnt have ANY RISKS... u even keep arguing with peopleand say that in japan its riskfree... and all of sasuke cell went krayz after using it... so any further using of it will prolaby kill him... even he admits that HIS susanoo isnt complete but hes feeling this bad.. so itachis susanoo probably even hurt him more.
krayzvi3tblue 2 years ago
Ok.. I guess ur wrong.. u keep claiming you have the japanese version and that susanoo poses no risk.. but guess what..?? thE NEW MANGA IS OUT AND IT IS SUPER SUPER RISKY TO USE SUSANOO..... it was predictable anyways how can a godly move like that has no risk?
krayzvi3tblue 2 years ago
It seems that Itachi and kisame are afraid of jiraiya..
eddel4 2 years ago
beceause he's a sanin and there like between jounin and sanin level
zuljin75 2 years ago
that was a boring fight.
JCshizle 2 years ago
it seems itachi used the last stage of sharingan to get out of there
FOXJACK123 2 years ago
i like how everyone thinks they know everything about naruto..it is as the writer writes it..somethings are left to the imagination for a reason..thats good writing..pointless arguing...omg someone on the internet is wrong! i must tell them!
uchihajersey 2 years ago
man now that you see the new manga.. everyn knows MANGEKYOU SHARINGAN is god mode.... even sasuke is fightin agaisnt KAGE level ninjas. So if you say itachi is afraid of jiraiya.. thats just stupid
krayzvi3tblue 2 years ago
well i think that he might be afraid because...when in sage mode you do not use chakra right?so tsukyomi is useless it cant effect you,secondly in sage mode you are quite fast so you can avoid amaterasu just like raikage did-the only problem is the susanno-so maybe not jiraya but naruto could have a good chance to win against that idiot sasuke....sorry but i dont like him he is made too perfect absolutely ideal...hate it
orochimaru825 2 years ago
Tsukuyomi would still work for one, and Naruto wouldn't be able to avoid Amaterasu, and Susanoo puts you in a genjutsu for ever if he even gets tapped by it, so er..
Mitcheeta 2 years ago
tsukyoumi wouldn't work if naruto uses his bijuu like killerbee.with a bit of luck naruto just might be able to evade amaterasu. sasuke could be beaten by rasenshuriken if i gets weakened from using mangekyo..but i agree sasuke is still a bit stronger than naruto
ripulijou 2 years ago
Who knows if the Nine-tails has the same genjutsu resistance as the Eight-taiks, and Naruto doesn't rely on his tails beast anymore. With a little luck... -.-'
And I STILL think Itachi gave Naruto the abiltity to resist his eye techniques.
Mitcheeta 2 years ago
it does need alot of skill to break out of a genjutsu from that level with a bijuu but the most powerful genjutsu in existence is not escapable (tsukoyomi)
produner1 2 years ago
umm.. sasuke used tsukonyomi on the 8 tails and he broke out .... didnt u see sasuke cover up his eyes in pain and was on his mangekyou after he used it? thats how u know he used tsukoyomi
krayzvi3tblue 2 years ago
tsukoyomi is itachi's ms jutsu and sasuke is alot weaker in genjutsu than itachi
it might be a ms genjutsu but not strong as tsukoyomi
produner1 2 years ago
umm no.. the left eye in sasukes mangeakyou IS tsukoyomi.. and his right eye is AMETARASU... ... so for u to say that its not...its wrong.. cause sasuke's techinques are identical to itachi's technique.
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Mitcheeta 2 years ago
it is based on the amount of chakra changing in jinchyyrikis body..u don't need skill just bring out the bijuu
ripulijou 2 years ago
wtf u talknig about lol.. itachi used it on sasuke and he BROKE OUT OF IT... the only genjutsu not breakable is the one from the SWORD used by itachi's susanoo. and 8 tails already broke out of tsukoyomi
krayzvi3tblue 2 years ago
a yoh
yik0713 2 years ago
not very cool
grimmjowharri 2 years ago
It doesn't first of all, and second, how would he avoid Amaterasu/Susanoo?
Mitcheeta 2 years ago
Itachi never showed his real power due to him still being loyal to Konoha , he never would harm Naruto , Kakashi , Jiraya or Sasuke .
He's still so powerfull that he would be a match for Pein and probably could kill Naruto with a genjutsu , he told Kakashi that only and S posessor , and specificly an Uchia could only defeath him . (but I still think Pein could win cuz of Rinnegan)
MrHidanSenpai 2 years ago
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MrHidanSenpai 2 years ago
How would Naruto avoid Susanoo, Amaterasu, or Tsukuyomi.
Mitcheeta 2 years ago
naruto cannot avoid susano because it is not an attack dumbass
SaskueSucks 2 years ago
What are you talking about? One hit by Susanoo's sword and Naruto will be put into an ulternate universe/in a genjutsu 4ever. It is also IMPOSSIBLE to resist the genjutsu. And while Susanoo is activated the shield it is carrying makes him invulnerable.
Mitcheeta 2 years ago
losers !
banni008 2 years ago
you guys need to stop taking this so seriously. it's a SHOW. the writers control how strong they are okay? the characters aren't real
cyclonzgirl 2 years ago
lul it aint a fight idiot, we're having a conversation if these two did clash, and I aint saying this isn't a show and that the characters are real.
I am sorry but you are just retarded XD
Mitcheeta 2 years ago
if you call someone a retard just for saying their opinion, sorry, but YOU'RE the retard here
cyclonzgirl 2 years ago
... How is it an opinion? "oh you guys believe the characters are real" or whatever you said.. I am sorry that is just retarded xD
Mitcheeta 2 years ago
just wondering but...do you know what an opinion is? anyway i don't really even care i'm just saying cuz you guys make it sound like the characters are real. (and have you ever stopped to think that retarded isn't the most intellectual word?)
cyclonzgirl 2 years ago
We're not taking it seriously. It's more like a debate between fans. Don't come in here trying to act cool, "The characters aren't real." Shut uuuuuuuuuup.
PhiliHIFlier36 2 years ago
i'm not trying to act 'cool'. i think that if you get so worked up about someone saying an opinion other than your own, you have....issues
cyclonzgirl 2 years ago
We aren't getting worked up though. Some of us are big fans and like to discuss Naruto. Sometimes we can get a bit over overzealous b/c we a such big fans, but in the end, it's just a friendly debate. There was no need for you to try and talk down to us and say, "This is a show. The characters aren't real." Wow that is so profound. If you don't want to take part of the debate, that's cool, but there's no need to act so high and mighty.
PhiliHIFlier36 2 years ago
oh really? it sounded that way? sorry, i guess. i wasn't trying to act "high and mighty" as you put it. but still, i mean that's no reason to act all high and mighty yourself and try to make yourself look all cool looking down on ME or anyone else who says the characters aren't real WHICH is a true fact, of course there's no point to argue over the subject
cyclonzgirl 2 years ago
Nothing I said implies that I look down on you in anyway.
PhiliHIFlier36 2 years ago
okay sure you 'win' lol whatever. i'm tired of fighting with you because it's just a waste of my time anyway when i have better things to be doing. so good bye
cyclonzgirl 2 years ago
Wahoo...
PhiliHIFlier36 2 years ago
lol
cyclonzgirl 2 years ago
(and by the subject i mean what we're arguing about whatever it is)
cyclonzgirl 2 years ago
either way, if Naruto fought itachi in a battle of life and death, he would win. why? because he is the main character :)
KazuyaPhenom119 2 years ago
No he wouldn't. If he fought Itachi, and Itachi was serious, there is no way he would win.
PhiliHIFlier36 2 years ago
I'm not debating whether or not Naruto won the fight. He obviously did. And you can't really compare "Naruto has many allies and a formidable jutsu" to knowing detailed info about Pain. Naruto while being very strong would have probably lost that fight w/o info. But you are right. It doesn't matter b/c Naruto did in fact win.
PhiliHIFlier36 2 years ago
guys guys. we haven't seen the whole shit yet. there may be som coutner to tsukiyomi or amaterasu. or maybe, naruto being the guy he is, can take a tsukiyomi or amaterasu. he is the main character so...yeah. and he'll probably find a way to mix together with ma and pa, thus tsukiyomi genjutsu would be pointless
KazuyaPhenom119 2 years ago
Tsukuyomi has a duration of like two seconds like I keep saying, and chances are Naruto wouldn't even summon Ma and Pa, and this is just a friendly conversation, or rather me trying to explain something which he wont take in.
Mitcheeta 2 years ago
no not really. pain was not supposed to kill Naruto. he had naruto caught but if it weren't for hinata interfering naruto would not be turned to kyuubi therefore naruto would be screwed. naruto didn't beat pain. technically it was the kyuubi.
KazuyaPhenom119 2 years ago
Hell no naruto did
even if Hinata didn't interfere he would use something as a last resort
C'mon its Naruto
brawler100 2 years ago
Well with Naruto battles/fights, all that matters are results, not the tools and powers one uses to get these results. One could argue that Sasuke/Itachi would be nothing without there Sharingans, but the fact is they have them. Likewise, Naruto has the Kyubbi, and if he can use the Kyubbi powers to achieve these results, it makes him powerful.
PhiliHIFlier36 2 years ago
Yeh but the sharingan is itachi and sasuke's OWN power. kyuubi however is not naruto's power, it his the kyuubi's power. when naruto comes to 4 tails or more its no longer naruto fighting its the kyuubi.
KazuyaPhenom119 2 years ago
Yes and no. I agree w/ you that Itachi and Sasuke have control over their Sharingan, making it their own power. However, it is still within Naruto's power to use the fox. It helped him win his fight w/ Neji. It helped him win the fight w/ Gaara, and so forth. And like I said, all that matters are the results of these fights, and if he can accomplish them w/ the fox, although he can't control it, it still makes him powerful/dangerous.
PhiliHIFlier36 2 years ago
Sharingan can see through clones though.
Mitcheeta 2 years ago
itachi used amaterasu !!!! wow
paraels 2 years ago
Regardless Naruto barely ever uses Summoning Jutsu.
Mitcheeta 2 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
what episode is this?
HugoChileno 2 years ago
T.T I just remembered jiraiya dies (sob sob) by his own pupil
mokomokosensei 2 years ago
Just for those saying that Itachi > Naruto, that is technically incorrect since Itachi can only maintain Susanoo (his one hope of victory) for a mere few minutes. Also, genjutsu does not affect naruto in sage mode (he stops his charka flow). So technically, Naruto is currently stronger then Itachi and Sasuke (Sasuke since he basically lost to Itachi - Only won because Itachi let him).
royfancoolguy 2 years ago 2
the only way naruto might be able to pull off sage mode is if he prep it up before meeting itachi.... if he were to fight itachi on the spot... or anyone for that matter.. he has no time to go on sage mode
krayzvi3tblue 2 years ago
Quite true, unless naruto can kill itachi within 5 minutes of sage mode that he has without his clones =P
royfancoolguy 2 years ago
I havn't read the manga, spoilers =D Although, Hm, sasuke borrowed basically all his moves from others, like orichimaru's seal, sword, snake moves, and his sharingan from himself.
But he didn't use genjutsu before though, does he need that to win?
BryanV4 2 years ago
Sage Mode doesn't stop the chakra flow, the energy of nature just blends into it senjutsu chakra, and you forgot about Amaterasu, the strongest ninjutsu in existance, Itachi just needs to focus on Naruto then he gets burned by fire that is as hot as the sun. He could also use Tsukuyomi, which can only be countered if you have a Sharingan. Itachi is the worst match for Naruto, only chance he has against Itachi is if he faces him when he has the unknown disease/close to blindness.
Mitcheeta 2 years ago
The Tsukuyomi wouldn't work on Naruto if Ma and Pa forced their chakra through Naruto. But I agree w/ you though; Naruto has no way to counter the Susanoo or the Amaterasu.
PhiliHIFlier36 2 years ago
I bet most of the time Naruto wont have Ma and Pa with him though. The only reason they were they against Pain was because Naruto was at Myobokuzan before hand.
Mitcheeta 2 years ago
He can summon them...
Pectineus112 2 years ago
WTF? Of course they aren't with him most of the time. He can summon them though, just like Jiraiya did.
PhiliHIFlier36 2 years ago
Naruto doesn't rely on summoning jutsu that much, and if he did he would most likely go Gamabunta. Only reason Jiraiya summoned them is to access sage mode, while it doesn't work on Naruto. The only use they got is the genjutsu and it takes awhile to load up/gives away your position. Especially against an opponent like Itachi it wouldn't be a good idea.
Mitcheeta 2 years ago
WTF are you talking about. He can summon whichever toad he chooses, and I have not seen evidence that he can't do so. Also, I said he would use them to counter the genjitsu, not to use a genjitsu. Using one would be pointless against a Sharingan. And why are you talking about Itachi? He's dead.
PhiliHIFlier36 2 years ago
I never said he couldn't summon toads, I said he doesn't rely on it much, regardless why am I talking about? You can't stop Tsukuyomi because the duration of can be Tsukuyomi is like 2 seconds! Remember Sasuke and Kakashi being hospitalized for weeks?
Mitcheeta 2 years ago
Haha, I don't think it would work on Naruto though. Remember when Sasuke tried to use genjitsu on Killerbee, it barely worked for a second, and Naruto and the frogs would be prepared for it. It wouldn't work.
PhiliHIFlier36 2 years ago
No they wouldn't, unless they were like right next to Naruto constantly pushing chakra into him, and Sasuke didn't use Tsukuyomi, Tsukuyomi = one of the best genjutsu/impossible to get out of unless you are an Uchiha that has their Sharingan. Naruto wouldn't be able to get out of it, remember? He got stuck in lesser genjutsu's all the time, even when Itachi was a clone. Tsukuyomi takes like
1/10th of a second to do its worst, and then Itachi also has Amaterasu/Susanoo. Itachi is a bloody god!
Mitcheeta 2 years ago
Haha, yeah that's why he's dead. And yes Naruto did get stuck in lesser genjitsu in the past, but he wasn't as strong then as he was now. I still don't the ANY genjitsu would work on Naruto if he has them there w/ him, Tsukiyomi or not.
PhiliHIFlier36 2 years ago
First off Itachi is only died because he chose to, secondly Naruto can't counter Tsukuyomi, it is to powerful to get out of, especially without the Sharingan, and like I keep saying, the frogs wouldn't have time to push there chakra into them, and chances are they wont even be there. Oh also Itachi gave a portion of his powers to Naruto to! And even if he got out of Tsukuyomi Itachi still has Amaterasu and Susanoo, and his taijutsu/non eye tech ninjutsu.
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krayzvi3tblue 2 years ago
Yeah I know all about Itachi, but it still doesn't change the fact that he's dead. I don't even know why you are talking about him. I'm talking about him and Sasuke. As for the Tsukuyami, I still don't think it will work on Naruto especially if they plan ahead for it. And it's most likely the frogs will be w/ him/he will summon them. Its not smart to fight a Sharingan one on one, esp a MS.
PhiliHIFlier36 2 years ago
The frogs can't stay on Naruto because the Nine-tails rejects them, and it is fine to talk about dead people vs alive people ^_^ makes a interesting conversation. Naruto vs. Sasuke, obviously Naruto is going to win, or Sasuke will win and then not kill Naruto and go back to Konoha or something, at the moment I don't know how Naruto will counter Sasuke's new eye techniques, or maybe Itachi gave him the power to resist them or something just in case Sasuke turned to more revenge. /shrug
Mitcheeta 2 years ago
The frogs just can't attach to him like they did Jiraiya, but they can still battle along side him. Also Naruto can counter 2 of Sasuke's eye techniques. They only one he can't counter is the Susanoo.
PhiliHIFlier36 2 years ago
Ugh, like I keep saying Naruto barely ever uses summoning, chances are he wont have the frogs with him, and Tsukuyomi is to fast to do add the chakra flow at the right time/it is to powerful, and how would he counter Amaterasu?
Mitcheeta 2 years ago
He's wind element... he can blow the fire back lol how else..
krayzvi3tblue 2 years ago
Wind Element is weak against fire for one thing, (Wind attribute makes the fire bigger) and second Amaterasu is unextinguishable, well only Madara can, and Jiraiya can seal it away.
Mitcheeta 2 years ago
Wind Element is weak against fire, and Amaterasu is one of the strongest ninjutsu in existance, only Madara, and Sasuke's Mangekyou can extinguish it, Jiraiya could only seal it away.
Mitcheeta 2 years ago
You also need to take into consideration that naruto is the best KAGE bushin user there is... even if sasuke uses ametarasu.... its probably gunna hit a fake clone and cause sasuke to waste chakra and endurance. Sasuke's gunna go blind fighting naruto if he keeps using it on the wrong clone
krayzvi3tblue 2 years ago
Yeah, but w/ his Sharingan he can tell which one's the real one. But he is going blind. Haha, at Sasuke blind.
PhiliHIFlier36 2 years ago
he wont be able to tell which is real if he jz shoots the ametarasu at a clone thats attacking him.. Narutos used clones to trick itachi and even kakashi when he fought them before
krayzvi3tblue 2 years ago
I actually didn't think the Amaterasu could be countered, but the Raikage did using a clone or something. Naruto could probably do the same. Also, I hear what you're saying about the Tsukuyomi, but I still disagree with you. No matter how powerful, it is still a genjitsu. When Sasuke used genjitsu on Killerbee, it barely lasted for a second, and he wasn't even prepared for it. Naruto would be, so I don't think it would work.
PhiliHIFlier36 2 years ago
Also if he knew he had to fight Sasuke, why wouldn't he summon them/bring them with? Chances are he would summon them if needed to.
PhiliHIFlier36 2 years ago
Raikage used his crazy fast Body Flicker Technique (which is being crazy fast) to avoid it, and the Sharingan can see through clones. Tsukuyomi is tougher to get out of, Itachi even said only a person with the Uchiha blood and the Sharingan can shake it off, "No matter how powerful, it is still a genjitsu" the more powerful the illusion makes it harder to counter. Naruto wouldn't know when it would be coming, he just needs to gaze in the user's eyes then WAM.
Mitcheeta 2 years ago
Haha, oh is that what he used. It looked like Sasuke put the Amaterasu on him and he made a Lightning clone to get out of it. That's one of the things I hate about reading the manga; sometimes I can't see what's going on. I wish it was in color. As for the Tsukuyami, I still think he could get out of it. Also why wouldn't he see it coming. He's fought Itachi before, and he knows what the MS can do. I find it hard to believe he would head into a fight w/ Sasuke w/o a way to counter it.
PhiliHIFlier36 2 years ago
Also I hear what you're saying about it being stronger and all that, but I still believe he can counter it. While it might be stronger, I'm pretty sure if Naruto was prepared for it, he could dispel it immediately.
PhiliHIFlier36 2 years ago
Only reason Killer Bee got out of it was because he was in four tails, and it was a lesser genjutsu. Naruto wouldn't rely on the Nine-tails, and the thing is Tsukuyomi would come instantly without warning, I don't see how he could predect it coming ^_^. And he only fought a clone of Itachi/a non attempting Itachi.
Mitcheeta 2 years ago
Well it wasn't really being in the 4-tails state as much as it was that he had the Bijuu there to snap him out of it aka his other person. Also, I didn't say he could predict it coming. He can't, but he knows Sasuke can use it, and I find that in ninja battles preparation usually makes a big difference. But who knows, I may be wrong, but I think he could counter it.
PhiliHIFlier36 2 years ago
Killer Bee is able to use the Eight-Tails to block his chakra to break illusions, even ones cast from a Mangekyo Sharingan, Naruto doesn't have the ability. And I meant three tails not four sorry ^_^. I don't think he knows that Sasuke has Itachi's eye techniques, well maybe Madara told Naruto. I also think he will counter it, well if Sasuke uses it, but I think Naruto will be alot stronger when they have there final fight, and as for right now I don't see how he will get around it.
Mitcheeta 2 years ago
No I think you are right actually. I did some digging, and you cannot cancel the Tsukuyomi. I'm pretty sure Sasuke didn't cancel, just overpowered it, which you would need a Sharingan to do. And Naruto will probably get stronger for that last fight which will be epic. If Team 7 ever reunited, that would be ridiculous...
PhiliHIFlier36 2 years ago
no it wasnt a lesser genjutsu... sasukes used TUSKUYOMI.. u could see his eye changed to mangekyou
krayzvi3tblue 2 years ago
We are talking about present tense, at the moment Naruto has no counters for any of Itachi/Sasuke's eye techniques.
Mitcheeta 2 years ago
O.o
mewmewsakura01 2 years ago
estu bo muy bien
chazan747 2 years ago
0:17 to 0:22
Itachi: Placeing Things in walls is fun! =D
TheNarup 2 years ago
that black flame at the end it called amaterasu you can only have it when you have Madara's Sharingan but Itachi he will plant it inside sasuke .. but thats a nother story xD
mrvalino 2 years ago
thats not quite right ...the amaterasu is a part of the mangekyu sharingan- it is a technique that is not given by madara but by controlling the sharingan on a higher level
orochimaru825 2 years ago
oh yeah thats right forgot to put it thanks
mrvalino 2 years ago
its ok I knew what you meant
orochimaru825 2 years ago
lol,pein vs itachi...come on ppl wake up...we saw pein at his strongest,but we havent seen itachi. also itachi was dying and you saw how pein looked like shit.if pein handnt lost his legs and itachi wasnt sick then we would have a fight.
manha12345678 2 years ago
Please. Pain did not look like shit. He beat Jiraiya, and still revived all 6 bodies after that big ass fight. Naruto's just had the benefit of having information, or he probably wouldn't have been able to defeat all 6 bodies. And he still had to use the 9 tails. Also we don't know how much chakra he used destroying Konoha before Naruto arrived. Itachi and Pain were both powerful.
Pectineus112 2 years ago
yeah. pain and itachi would wipe the floor with naruto even if he had sage mode.
ytv122 2 years ago
lol how stupid can u be
naruto killed all peins in sage mode
Boky505 2 years ago
But he had info though. If he didn't he would have died just like Jiraiya.
PhiliHIFlier36 2 years ago
nope jiraya was to weak
naruto perfected the sage mode
Boky505 2 years ago
This has nothing to do w/ Naruto being stronger than Jiraiya. If he didn't have information on Pain, he would not have won that fight.
PhiliHIFlier36 2 years ago
thats stupid... so youre saying if i throw a rock at itachi.. he'll use susanoo to seal up a rock in an eternal genjutsu LMAO. stop saying God susanoo and then goin to japan this and that... at least argue ur points to them lol
krayzvi3tblue 2 years ago
No one needs to come to Tokyo for anything. Let's say it didn't use life force. During that fight, Zetsu says that Itachi uses the Susanoo at a big risk to himself. That alone tells you the Susanoo is not something he can just use at a whim. So he shouldn't use it unless he has to. You can't deny that; that's in the manga. Also, what good would it do to trap a dead body in an eternal genjitsu? It would be like trapping one of Kankuro's puppets in a never ending genjitsu. Pointless.
SBTBGuru 2 years ago
It makes perfect sense. You don't seem to grasp the fact that the Susanoo would be useless. If he used it, the Sword it carries wouldn't work on the bodies of Pain. The shield would work however, but how long could he keep that up? No for very long. Haha, you can't even argue your points. You just keep repeating the Susanoo's invincible. Technically it is, but it has it's flaws. It's not something one can use over and over. or sustain for very long.
3rdWorldRckr 2 years ago
i give you one proof that itachi stronger is than pain
if he used susanoo than alomst nobody can damage itachi the only one who can deaft him is a sharingan user
ihabist 2 years ago
No, haven't you been listening. He wouldn't use the Susanoo. Not only does it shorten his life span, but it the sword it wields doesn't work against corpses which is what the bodies of Pain are. Using the Susanoo would just be a waste of chakra, and he can't sustain it forever.
3rdWorldRckr 2 years ago