I'm a Christian but its suspicious all this KJV stuff because 777 are the the divine numbers from the"Book of Law"by Aliester Crowley.You can see that the movie"Book of Eli"its just an anagram of "Book of Lie"refering to the KJV in the movie, so Book of Eli/Lie/Law its refering to Aliester Crowley's book & if you see the roots of Gail Riplinger(KJV defender),i mean she studied on the illuminati oxford university,so i think KJV is like Thelema Crowley's teachings disguised with a Christian cover
Polycarp left the real Apostle for the false Apostle Paul.
Which is clear in the testimonies. Also, Paul nor Polycarp new yahshua and the real Apostle were instructed to preach the Kingdom of Yahweh,not the gospel of Paul.
Where is your evidence that Polycarp abandoned John to follow Paul as opposed to following both? I need explicit evidence. Merely saying he followed Paul will not justify your claim. If you get rid of Paul then you get rid of Acts as well - then you get rid of Luke because he wrote Acts. Denying Jesus' apostle Paul leads to eventually denying Gods word and then Jesus himself.
I have followed your entire youtube career with great interest. You seem to be one of a very tiny minority that sees things clearer by far. I have a question.
What do you think is the responsibility o the Christian? What is the basic minimum requisite for salvation?
I would love to see a video that addresses these concerns.
Looking forward to your next project, what ever it may be.
hi brother, i was just wondering if there was just one part to the cosmic truth, new age unvieled, thanx, stay busy cuz your helping alot of people with the truth
If you believe that you are bringing a new knowledge of WHO JESUS CHRIST is you don't know HIM. GOD is not found through logic, but faith. Faith is logical once your mind is renewed to the Wonder and Glory of GOD. Try to hear GOD talking to you. We don't find GOD by thinking, but by waiting and wanting a personal relationship with HIM. Ask HIM for a personal relationship with HIM, HE will always answer. GOD THE FATHER; created HIMSELF, then HE did create JESUS HIS SON, and THE HOLY SPIRIT.
Jesus and all the other stuff is proven to be nothing more than mythology. You may as well debate King Arthur and the knights of the round table. Why do you people waste your lives on this nonsense?
How has Jesus been proven to be mythology when even atheist and agnostic scholars will admit that his crucifixion is historical fact? Jesus death as a consequence of crucifixion is indisputable. - Gert Lüdemann. Jesus death by crucifixion is historically certain - Pinchas Lapide One of the most certain facts of history is that Jesus was crucified on orders of the Roman prefect of Judea, Ponitus Pilate. - Bart Ehrman.
@believerornot There has been more new testament scrolls on the life of Jesus and the apostles found all over the middle east than plato and all the other philosophers put together, as well as the written accounts of josephus and other secular writters on Jesus.
@KeithTruth: The spirit of the Lord is upon you, so it's good for you to share your knowledge of scripture and the Lord. I look forward to hearing your other videos.
@Nidder1 Since Peter lived and traveled with Jesus, I would expect Peter knew Jesus better than any modern man. If Peter didn't think Jesus is God, I find that persuasive.
Great site Keith. I'll be praying for you. I have a brother who has fallen to this whole New Age deception that is 50% NWO truth mixed with an agenda that denies Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior. Keep fighting the good fight to prove that we can be intellectually honest truth seeking Christians.
@Yuratchka, excellent. I applaud your effort in this debate but you lost buddy. I am uploading my second rebuttal and closing statement now. Take care.
@Yuratchka, I will respond to your 1st rebuttal in the next few day. Remember your second rebuttal should be in response to what I am going to say in my next video. Take care.
Well, hold one a second. What are you going to address? My 1st Rebuttal? So why should I address your 2nd Rebuttal instead of addresing your 1st Rebuttal? Does that make sense to you? If you are going to address my 1st Rebuttal then I toll will address your 1st Rebuttal.
@Yuratchka: You are remiss to point out that Doceticism was and is a feature of gnostic Christianity, which by no means represents the majority of believers in Christ as deity, but rather a sect believing His resurrection was a spiritual, not physical, event. Your consistent error in presenting Jesus as a created being is in using arguments whose conclusion and premise are the same. These are all logical fallacies. And again, your belief that Jesus was not deity is apostate.
@Yuratchka: I reject your conclusion because it is based on reductionism, a faithless system of intellectual study. I take no issue with the fact that "saviors" can be human beings, only the logical fallacy you derive from it that Jeroboam and Jesus are both created beings. Be careful of your pride, my friend, the letter kills.
Yuratchka: You are stumbling over the truth. Based on your theology, God lied when stating that "BESIDE me, there is no savior." We know He did not lie. He sent Moses et al to "lead them to victory in battle," but He did not send them to be our Redeemer/Messiah. That Moses was a savior does does not refute the Almighty's declaration that
"BESIDE me there is no savior" as God Himself provided Moses! Jesus is the "ONLY name ("savior") given to us for ETERNAL salvation, thus He is God
@jayorama1, like I said, you are not qualified to debate me on this. This has NOTHING to do with my theology, it's a matter of ACCEPTING the text which you are REJECTING. I gave you a passage where the same Hebrew word in Isaiah 43:11 for Savior (MOSHI'A) is used in 2 Kings 13:5. Don't bother me again with this. Have a nice day.
Yuratchka, as far as I understand it you believe Christ was JUST a God, but what about Deuteronomy 6:4 Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:.
Lord = God, and it's one Lord. Why don't you just repent and admit you're wrong, the humiliation on your part is just too hard to swallow, the way you're getting refuted is just almost unbearable ! Do you have any dignity ? I guess not. And why are you sending invites to almost all Christians ? On a satanic mission lately ?
@michaeljacksongone. First of you, you don't know what you're talking about when it comes to LORD here. It is YHVH not "God." Second, it says YHVH ECHAD, YHVH IS ONE not "one Lord." Third, you're projecting your emotions upon me. Fourth, I don't appreciate your questions that have nothing to do with the debate.
So you dismiss the Kjv then ? I believe I typed it down correctly, and the translation into English is correct to because Jewish scholars admit the translation to be accurate. Btw, what you just said and all your other points have been refuted already, are you trying to blind the masses ?
watch?v=4cs_chp1wSU
Also your objection towards john 1:1, tell me, do you actually study the matter or are you just here for the lolz ?
I've read pages of comments of Christiansin the last few days, they all thank you for the invite, I will write down all their names and make a clip about you saying that Christ isn't Lord and watch how fast your friendslist will drop in numbers.Why are you accepting all them to be your friend while they totally disagree with you ? You're disgusting
On top of that you know that many of them don't agree with your position and it's actually being considered to be evil teachings by the scriptures. Are you trying to get them to your channel so you can convert them into Arianism ? Don't you think you're crossing borders right now ? I will save all your friends in a file and send them the url of clip I will made about you so they can all see what your position is. You're Satanic man, that's just a evil way
@michaeljacksongone. I don't appreciate your ad hominems. And threatening to send some kinf od url of a clip you will make about me only shows me just how scared the demons are that they make people like you do the things you're doing.
Yeah of course, demons are on my side, I believe you right away ! Will make my clip and send them to your friends, I will keep it nice, just the facts, not hard though, everything you said in your opening speech has been answered already, you're dariing old cows out of the .... hehe. Something else, if you need to turn scriptures upside down to fit your teachings I believe you're going against scriptures already...
KeithTruth: I wanted to tell you I like the vid, it's very well done. I'll be viewing more of your material in the days to come. I fear that someone like Yuratchka is apostate, why do you give him air time on your channel?
@KeithTruth, just wanted to let you know that though I may not have been your target audience (since my faith is strong already re: doctrine of Jesus' deity), you're blessing me by this too as I have now been convicted of neglect of proclaiming this doctrine. It's way past time I collect in a playlist videos on Jesus being God...that's a big stumbling block &/or confusion for people of so many backgrounds & I haven't made a dedicated list on that yet, I am now ashamed to realize. So thanks.
amen friend, heresey like arianism, JW and Islam, all cults that deny the deity of Christ decieve a lot of people. This is a very important topic indeed. I am glad you felt convicted to enter this battle.
Yuratchka: You fail to rightly divide the Word of God by treating it reductively. God's revelation is gestaltic, thus His truth is revealed in larger patterns. The other MOSHIAs or saviors were foreshadows of the coming Christ, they in no way could have brought eternal salvation to humanity (only victory to earthly battles.) Nor does God contradict Himself in saying He alone is our Savior. No created being can BE as Yahweh the Redeemer and Messiah, which is why Jesus had no earthly father.
@jayorama1. You have a double standard. The fact is that the word MOSHI'A is used in both Isaiah 43:11 and in 2 Kings 13:5 (who is identified in 2 Kings 14:27). You are plainly rejecting these facts. I destroyed your "savior" argument with this, you are just having a hard time accepting it.
By the way, the plural of MOSHI'A is MOSHI'IM not "MOSHIAs."
Yuratchka: All you proved is that God directs men to deliver His people from earthy battles, which cannot deny Yahweh's declaration of Himself as SOLE REDEEMER. You are listening to Satan, my friend.
@jayorama1. I used the Hebrew Bible and showed the same word that is used in Isaiah 43:11 to be used in 2 Kings 13:5 where it says that YHVH gave Israel a MOSHI'A (the exact same word in Isaiah 43:11). You're rejecting the scripture.
God is the ultimate savior, and he saves through Jesus; John 3:16-17, 1 John 4:14, Acts 5:31, and 1 Thessalonians 5:9-10. This is no different than God saving through other's in the Hebrew Bible; 2 Kings 13:5 (2 Kings 14:27), 1 Samuel 9:16, 2 Samuel 3:18, etc.
@Yuratchka: You said: "To believe someone is the true God when they are not is called idolatry and idolater shall have their part in the Lake of Fire..." Jesus was likewise accused of blasphemy when he said He Himself was the light of the world and that "before Abraham was, I AM." Did He not refer to Himself as God? And when they started to stone him, did he recant? What you believe, instead, is that a created being died for your sins, and that itself is idolatry, as only Yahweh can save us.
@jayorama1, I have two videos on John 8 An Examination in my playlist 'Against godmanism' and I also have a video called 'Kosher Translation of John 8:58' and you might as well watch my video on Exodus 3:14.
You further said "What you believe, instead, is that a created being died for your sins, and that itself is idolatry,"
Like I said, you are not qualified to debate me and I just shot down your argument with Isaiah 41:11, 2 Kings 13:5, and 2 Kings 14:27.
No one is equal with the father, yet the gospel of John makes it very clear Christ was one with the father, you want to play some translation games with that too you Arian ? Like your kind tried to do in the 4th century ?
I totally owned you, you should debate the kiddies and don't come on channels like this, you're way too uneducated
@Yuratchka: It was not an ad hominem but rather a point of difference in our beliefs. You asked: "...are you saying that Jehu, a human being, in the Hebrew Bible is Jehovah because his name is 'He is Jehovah'?" If he had fulfilled the prophecy of the Messiah Redeemer as Jesus/Yeshua did, resurrected and then appeared afterward, yes.
@jayorama1. You said " If he had fulfilled the prophecy of the Messiah Redeemer as Jesus/Yeshua did, resurrected and then appeared afterward, yes." What the hell does this have to do with being called Jehu? You have a double standard.
@Yuratchka: 1 John 4:3 refers to Christ, or Messiah. 43:11 refers to Yahweh as the SOLE savior of Man. The Messiah (Yeshua) and the Savior (YaHWeH) are therefore the same person.
Isaiah 43:11 I, I am the LORD, and besides me there is no [MOSHIA].
2 Kings 13:5 Therefore the Lord gave Israel a [MOSHIA], so that they escaped from the hand of the Arameans; and the people of Israel lived in their homes as formerly.
The above MOSHI'A (savior) that YHVH gave to Israel is Jeroboam son of Joash who is found in 2 Kings 14:27.
You're not qualified to debate me. Leave it alone. LOL.
@ClaireWaldoff. You quoted Isaiah 43:11 and then you said "That's because the son is part of the Godhead..." What the hell are you talking about? I quoted Isaiah 43:11 with 2 Kings 13:5 and 2 Kings 14:27 to demonstrate that if another being is called MOSHI'A (savior) that it doesn't make that other being YHVH.
"What the hell are you talking about? I quoted Isaiah 43:11 with 2 Kings 13:5 and 2 Kings 14:27 to demonstrate that if another being is called"
You didn't make any sence nor did you even understand what I wrote, shame on you
Yuratchka,you should already be glad that someone like Keith pays attention to you. My answer was right, you don't like the word Godhead, Satan doesn't want you to understand it I believe
@Yuratchka: We like to assume that an argument is the one presented to us, but that is seldom the case. My question for you is this. What difference does it make for you to believe that Jesus is a created being and not God? Do you worship Him differently than those who believe otherwise? I would appreciate if you could explain this to me.
What difference it makes for me to believe that Jesus is a created being and not God? All the difference in the world, because Jesus is God's unique creation, his unique Son. It is important to know Jesus for who Jesus is. To believe someone is the true God when they are not is called idolatry and idolater shall have their part in the Lake of Fire as the Book of Revelation says.
I don't worship Jesus as if Jesus is the true God, that would be idolatry.
@Yuratchka: You also said: "Sorry, but your statement about being antichrist because one denies the deity of Jesus is unsupported by the Bible." I disagree. 1 John 4:3 says: "And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist..." Since Christ is Messiah, and Isaiah 43:11 reveals there is no savior BESIDES Yahweh, one cannot deny the deity of Jesus without also denying that Yahweh, as Messiah, came in the flesh.
@jayorama1. What does 1 John 4:3 have to do with Isaiah 43:11? You need to learn how to give proper references instead of chopping the scriptures as if it is a salad. 1 John 4:3 is anti-docetic.
Doceticism: The name comes from the Greek word DOKEO, which means to seem or to appear. It maintained that Jesus was not a full flesh-and-blood human being. He was instead completely (and only) divine; he only seemed or appeared to be a human being, to feel hunger, thirst, and pain, to bleed, to die. Since Jesus was God, he could not really be a man.
@Yuratchka: Would you agree that "Father of Eternity" and "Everlasting Father" refer to the same being? And would you not agree that the "Father of Eternity" is also our *Everlasting Father*? You said: "I have no problem with Jesus having the name "Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Father of Eternity... since it's a praise name, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO MEAN THAT WHAT HIS NAME IS IS WHAT HE IS... and every Jew knows this." You are thus confessing that you hold the same doubt as unbelieving Jews.
@jayorama1. Hold to the same doubt as the unbelieving Jews? Nice ad hominem. The name 'Jehu' means 'HE IS JEHOVAH (for the sake of the argument I use the spelling Jehovah).' So, are you saying that Jehu, a human being, in the Hebrew Bible is Jehovah because his name is 'He is Jehovah'?
The Word is clear that Jesus and God are the same being (ie., that Jesus was not created), however we can pose this as a logic question. If you agree that God is a spirit, how can a Spirit give birth to a "son?" There is only one way. God incarnated HIMSELF through the virgin birth in order to convey HIMSELF in that role. The alternative is to believe that Jesus came into existence only at His conception inside Mary, which cannot be true since he declared "...before Abraham, I am."
thepeoplehunter: It is the spirit of anti christ that denies the absolute deity of Jesus Christ. Our heavenly Father inserted Himself into the human race and His OWN testimony proves it. When I close my prayers, I often say "...thank you Father my Savior, Jesus."
@jayorama1, sorry, but your stament about being antichrist because one denies the deity is unsupported by the Bible. I recommend that you watch my video What It Means To Be AntiChrist: /watch?v=7_KqUfZx8Qo
As for the Father inserting himself into the human race, this goes against the Bible, go read Psalm 121, God cannot sleep nor slumber. Then go read James 1:17, there is no variant or shadow due to change with God, God cannot change and become a human. Sorry.
Isaiah 9:6: "For unto us a Child is born, Unto us a Son is given; And the government will be upon His shoulder. And His name will be called Wonderful, Counselor, MIGHTY GOD, EVERLASTING FATHER, Prince of Peace."
Isaiah 43:10,11: You are My witnesses, says the Lord, And My servant whom I have chosen, That you may know and believe Me, and understand that I am He. Before Me there was no God formed, Nor shall there be after Me. I, even I, am the Lord, and BESIDES Me there is no Savior.
@jayorama1, that's a horrible translation of Isaiah 9. First, AVIYAD is FATHER OF ETERNITY not EVERLASTING FATHER. Second, go buy yourself a Artscroll Stone Edition Tanach and see how it translates the passage.
You are the one mistranslating even according to the Jewish Targum:
"The prophet saith to the house of David, A child has been born to us, a son has been given to us; and he has taken the law upon himself to keep it, and his name has been called from of old, Wonderful counselor, Mighty God, He who lives forever, the Anointed One (or Messiah), in whose days peace shall increase upon us." (The Targum of Isaiah, J.F. Stenning, Editor and Translator [Oxford: Clarendon], p. 32)
@KeithTruth, Targum is a interpretation, not a literal translation. Further, thanks for showing that the Targum says HAS BEEN BORN and HAS BEEN GIVEN which is exactly what the Hebrew text says. What I said to jayorama1 is a not a mistranslation was right on. =)
Its not a word for word literal translation correct but it does translate the key word in dispute, MIGHTY GOD, the word you say is properly translated in other texts. Well this Jewish text translates it as Mighty God that is all I am saying. Granted its not a word for word translation.
@KeithTruth. I didn't mention anything about a mighty god in my response to jayorama1 but rather told him/her to buy a Artscroll Stone Edition Tanach as see how it translations that passage and I mentioned that AVIYAD properly translated doesn't mean 'EVERLASTING FATHER' but rather 'FATHER OF ETERNITY.' Now, can it be interpreted as 'Eternal Father'? Yes, it can be interpreted into a translation that way, but the more literal one is 'FATHER OF ETERNITY.'
@KeithTruth. Since you brought up MIGHTY GOD, it is akward but EL GIBBOR can be translated as MIGHTY HERO and any educated Jew in Hebrew will say the same. However, the more likely translation is MIGHTY GOD.
Pointing to Isaiah 9:5 (or verse 6) doesn't do anything except show what kind of praise name this child has. There's a guy in the Hebrew Bible with the name Jehu (which means HE IS JEH) yet no one argues that that guy is JEH, another guy named Ithiel (EL IS WITH ME), etc.
@Yuratchka, Incorrect. Only two people in the entire OT are identified as El Gibbor . SON in Isaiah 9:6 and YHWH in Isaiah 10:21. Those exact words are only applied to them. Yes el can have different meanings but its obviously a reference to creator God here.
@KeithTruth. I'm only showing that there's different ways to translate the name and that there's different ways to translate the passage (as Artscroll Stone Edition Tanach translated it a whole different way and says he called his name Sar-shalom [Prince of Peace]).
I have no problem with Jesus having the name "Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Father of Eternity, Sar-shalom" since it's a praise name, it doesn't have to mean that what his name is is what he is, and every Jew knows this.
too bad I can't praise anyone else and call them Mighty God, Father of Eternity... Wait, that would be blasphemy wouldn't it... good thing I don't call upon the names of others then the name of Jesus who yourself have no problem saying he has the name "Mighty God" and "Father of Eternity."
So, where is my comment? Was it not good enough to be posted? Did I say anything insulting or threatening? I even praised you Keith. You are now reminding me of venomfangx. Keith, if you are going to allow comments, then you have to be aware that there may be some that you do not like or approve of, but that doesn't mean that you have to be a comment nazi just to look better or to be politically correct.
There is no pending approval on keiths channel, I'm free to post too on all his clips. You're just a little disgusting atheist ready to accuse Christians.
Get your facts together before you make yourself look like a fool. Obviously you used too many spaces or dots. But you're too stupid to realize that.
Lol, I'm not an atheist. I am a Christian, and I will say whats on my mind with other Christians, I guess its unusual, but I dont discriminate. Christians sometimes gets things wrong too ya know...
Oh and to point out the irony here, maybe you should get your facts together before you make yourself a fool as well. all you had to do is look at my profile.
But I will apologize to Keith if it is a youtube problem, it just scared me that he might do like what VFX did. I like Keith too much.
@randallsnowb There have been a lot of problems with youtube lately with posting comments, I just recommend reposting your comment, don't take it personally. Be careful about making accusations of people being a "nazi" before you know what really happened or you might just get your comments removed afterall.
I was pretty sure it was posted, but if it is a youtube problem, then I'm truly sorry. you have to forgive me for the way I put things like when I said that he didn't have to be a comment nazi. it was just a figure of speach not intended as an insult, but a way to explain the reason for my frustration.
Phil 2:6, if Jesus is already in the form of God, as in sharing essence, then how could he not be equal with God always from eternity, since he is God? What is the purpose here of saying he "thought it not robbery to be equal with God", if he is God already?
I just debunked Yuratchka at his channel, people don't know the history of the Arians, they tried to corrupt the teachings in the 4th century and appointed several fake Patriarchs onto the seat of Antioch. But they were dismissed and their teachings didn't get into the canon, they still try to corrupt it till this day.
But just like in those days the true word will stand strong, you should make a clip about their history Keith and what they did in the 4th century !
I did ? Like telling you the truth about you Arians ? And what horrible things you did to the Syrians to get the seat of Antioch in order to corrupt it's teachings ?
You're filth, and you can't debate me, so you call me names, I call you names because I know your history, and I know that makes you scared. Everything you try to do on your channel HAS ALREADY BEEN REFUTED in the 4th and 5th century and there is a reason why your evil teachings didn't reach the major audience
Yuratchka, I will not allow you to come here and call people names and say "You don't know what the hell you're talking about." Please refrain from such language.
@ClaireWaldoff. I'm just a copy cat? LOL. Dude, don't bother talking to me until you get a clue. I've come to my beliefs on my own unlike. I consider myself an Arian because I later found out that what I believe is basically what Arius also believed concerning Jesus being a created being, not being one being with the Father, etc.
I'm not a dude, I'm a lady and I know history including the horrible things you DID in the 4th century, grow a pair kid, learn history and why your teachings have been refuted ages ago.
YOUR KIND has been refuted already, you're a copy cat because you just reply what has been tried 1600 years ago. The horrible acts by your kind towards the people in Antioch shows how evil you are, LEARN HISTORY and don't debate someone when you don't have the knowledge
No of course not, because I caught you with history, people like you are always running away when we bring up your history.
Once I heard the word ARIAN I snapped and why ? Because I studied history and those with me know how many people were killed by YOUR KIND to place several CORRUPTED Patriarchs into the Antioch seat.
Your bloody history proved what you are. Every point you tried to made has been refuted and you're just a funny person, someone to LOL at
Yuratchka, be smart for a change, remove your clips and channel and go hide under a bridge or something before I call my friends, all historians and we will present you some historical numbers about the amount of people you Arians killed. The blood is still on your hands because you keep up with their evil teachings.
Yuratchka, are you really that stupid ? Go ahead, block me, it will not change anything about me responding to you over here, I will not visit your channel anymore, your bloody history freaks me out. No, instead I will respond to you over here and give you some history lessons. You blocking me cannot change that.
Arians killed thousands of people and tried to corrupt the early churches by their evil teachings and you're just a copy cat ROFLMAO
@ClaireWaldoff. Actually I'm very clever. I just will ignore your comments on here and I won't bother to open the messages in my message notification section when I see that your name is there. So basically I won't see the garbage your posting anymore. Good bye.
"@ClaireWaldoff. Please don't respond to me anymore. I have nothing further to say to you. Bye. "
But you prove right now that you have something to say, funny Arian bloodthirsty person you are !
And by garbage you mean telling everyone what your kind did about 1700 years ago ? You know what ? Write this on your chest, CORRUPTED PATRIARCHS APPOINTED BY EVIL ARIANS IN ANTIOCH. Go ahead, write it down. Sissy...
He alone is omnipotence{1Ch 29:11-12; 2Ch 20:6 Mat 6:13; Luk 1:37}. He alone does all things according to his will{Mat 7:21; Mat 26:39,42; Eph 1:9,11; Dan 4:35}. He alone by his own will created all things{Rev 4:11} and he alone keeps stretching the heavens{Job 9:8}.
You guys are dreaming if you believe that Jesus is inherently the one God, who is the father, whom is one YHVH. The father alone possesses immortality{1Ti 6:16}. He does not change, he alone is unchangeable{Jam 1:17; Mal 3:6}. He alone is Omniscient{Psa 147:5; Isa 46:10; Act 1:6-7; Mar 13:32}.
Daniel's descriptionDan10:5-6 John's description Rev1;13-16*John the Revelator & Daniel seen the same*Who is the 4th in firey furnanceDan3;25*How long was Jesus with his people "before" he was born in Bethlehem.Micah5;2"What a Revelation of God!*Deliverer of OT& NT times none other than Christ!*Father Son & HolySpirit, One in unity working 4 the salvation, redemption &deliverance of the human race.Many nuggets of truth for those who seek them out.*I get a rush each time I find.GET HIGH on truth!
" Therefore, as you received Christ Jesus the Lord, so walk in him, rooted and built up in him and established in the faith, just as you were taught, abounding in thanksgiving. See to it that no one takes you captive by philosophy and empty deceit, according to human tradition, according to the elemental spirits of the world, and not according to Christ. For in him the whole fullness of deity dwells bodily," (Col 2:6-9)
Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
1 John 4:3
And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
If your worried about misdirection, stay clear of Islam.
Joh 1:1 & 14 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the WORD WAS GOD. - And THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
1Ti 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: GOD WAS MANIFEST IN THE FLESH
Tit 2:13 Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of THE GREAT GOD AND OUR SAVIOUR JESUS CHRIST;
PayChkSlaveRebellion: Great and noble prophets don't resurrect themselves. Read the book of Revelations. He declares Himself to be the "alpha and omega." Created beings can't say that.
I think I might be able to put up my opening statement today, but now I am off to work. And I say I think because I might be too tired to do so once I am done with working on the roof (I'm a roofer). I'll see, but I think I might be able to put something together today.
@SilasRD. God is omnipresent and there is no variant with him. Your h20 analogy is fails and it doesn't even represent a triune god but rather a modalistic/oneness god.
Thats true, I don't believe any analogies like that work, Even William Lane Craig dismisses them. But should we expect to be able to make Gods innermost being analagous to something when we can't even comprehend his eternality? Its not a good methodology to assert that Trinity is beyond comprehension because so is eternity of God.
@damianplus. This language of the Father, Jesus, and God's Holy Presence being one just like a man and a woman is one when they marry isn't used anywhere in the Canon.
Since when is YHWH, His presence and His Spirit on man idolatry. Especially since it was all prophecized to come. and all throughout the Tanakh. Read Isaiah 63: 7-10 It's all there!
If Jesus had been anything less than the Almighty in human form, his sacrifice would not have accomplished universal salvation. Who alone is worthy -- Who can BE worthy -- BUT the Almighty? The Father and Son are ONE. It is His testimony.
@jayorama1. You ought to watch my video 'Christdem's Another Gospel' in my playlist 'The Son of God.' You are rejecting the gospel that God sent his Son to die and have replaced it with a private gospel that God came and died.
Then we would have to debate what it means for JESUS to be God's Son. It means that Jesus is unique with God in that he shares the divine nature of God. I can show this from the texts of scripture!
John 1:1 - "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." 1. John 1:14 - "And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, glory as of the only begotten from the Father, full of grace and truth."
Jesus is God in the flesh and i love Jesus and i am ready to die for my savior the way He died for me.
Great work Keith... Very well researched - to be honest, I didn't think the other chap you COULD debate the divinity of Christ since the Bible's full of evidence of it...
Interesting presenting. I'll upload my opening statement as soon as I am able to. Hopefully on Wensday, but I do not contol the future so it might be a few days after Wensday, but I think it will be this week.
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youneekk 7 months ago
I'm a Christian but its suspicious all this KJV stuff because 777 are the the divine numbers from the"Book of Law"by Aliester Crowley.You can see that the movie"Book of Eli"its just an anagram of "Book of Lie"refering to the KJV in the movie, so Book of Eli/Lie/Law its refering to Aliester Crowley's book & if you see the roots of Gail Riplinger(KJV defender),i mean she studied on the illuminati oxford university,so i think KJV is like Thelema Crowley's teachings disguised with a Christian cover
WatchThisVideos 1 year ago
fantastic video
gerryboy101 1 year ago
Polycarp left the real Apostle for the false Apostle Paul.
Which is clear in the testimonies. Also, Paul nor Polycarp new yahshua and the real Apostle were instructed to preach the Kingdom of Yahweh,not the gospel of Paul.
You teach against Yahweh.
odephraimchai 1 year ago
Where is your evidence that Polycarp abandoned John to follow Paul as opposed to following both? I need explicit evidence. Merely saying he followed Paul will not justify your claim. If you get rid of Paul then you get rid of Acts as well - then you get rid of Luke because he wrote Acts. Denying Jesus' apostle Paul leads to eventually denying Gods word and then Jesus himself.
KeithTruth 1 year ago
Dear Keith,
I have followed your entire youtube career with great interest. You seem to be one of a very tiny minority that sees things clearer by far. I have a question.
What do you think is the responsibility o the Christian? What is the basic minimum requisite for salvation?
I would love to see a video that addresses these concerns.
Looking forward to your next project, what ever it may be.
Pax
ThotherBrother 1 year ago
hi brother, i was just wondering if there was just one part to the cosmic truth, new age unvieled, thanx, stay busy cuz your helping alot of people with the truth
lommylom 1 year ago
If you believe that you are bringing a new knowledge of WHO JESUS CHRIST is you don't know HIM. GOD is not found through logic, but faith. Faith is logical once your mind is renewed to the Wonder and Glory of GOD. Try to hear GOD talking to you. We don't find GOD by thinking, but by waiting and wanting a personal relationship with HIM. Ask HIM for a personal relationship with HIM, HE will always answer. GOD THE FATHER; created HIMSELF, then HE did create JESUS HIS SON, and THE HOLY SPIRIT.
apostlelaurinda 1 year ago
Jesus and all the other stuff is proven to be nothing more than mythology. You may as well debate King Arthur and the knights of the round table. Why do you people waste your lives on this nonsense?
believerornot 1 year ago
How has Jesus been proven to be mythology when even atheist and agnostic scholars will admit that his crucifixion is historical fact? Jesus death as a consequence of crucifixion is indisputable. - Gert Lüdemann. Jesus death by crucifixion is historically certain - Pinchas Lapide One of the most certain facts of history is that Jesus was crucified on orders of the Roman prefect of Judea, Ponitus Pilate. - Bart Ehrman.
KeithTruth 1 year ago
@believerornot There has been more new testament scrolls on the life of Jesus and the apostles found all over the middle east than plato and all the other philosophers put together, as well as the written accounts of josephus and other secular writters on Jesus.
Zechariah46 1 year ago
@KeithTruth: The spirit of the Lord is upon you, so it's good for you to share your knowledge of scripture and the Lord. I look forward to hearing your other videos.
jayorama1 2 years ago 2
Matthew 16:15-16 He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am? And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.
Why not say You are God?
Matthew 16:22 Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee.
Would Peter have rebuked Jesus had he believed Jesus was God?
In the garden of Gethsemene..Mark 14:50 And they all forsook him, and fled. Would they flee if they believed they were with God?
ChristShepherd 2 years ago
Are you asking if 'our' (any man's) current opinion outweighs 1st century first hand specifics.
Nidder1 1 year ago
@Nidder1 Since Peter lived and traveled with Jesus, I would expect Peter knew Jesus better than any modern man. If Peter didn't think Jesus is God, I find that persuasive.
ChristShepherd 1 year ago
I think you don't understand the context of the term 'son' of God and what that means.
Nidder1 1 year ago
@Nidder1 Isaiah 64:8 But now, O LORD, thou art our father; we are the clay, and thou our potter; and we all are the work of thy hand.
ChristShepherd 1 year ago
this is the opening portion of a series, why not listen to the whole thing?
Nidder1 1 year ago
@ChristShepherd, This article demonstrates that Peter believed Jesus was God. You need to repent and find Christ before it's too late
answeringislam . info / authors / shamoun / petrine _ christology . html
KeithTruth 1 year ago
Great site Keith. I'll be praying for you. I have a brother who has fallen to this whole New Age deception that is 50% NWO truth mixed with an agenda that denies Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior. Keep fighting the good fight to prove that we can be intellectually honest truth seeking Christians.
ghostnoteus 2 years ago 2
@KeithTruth. I uploaded my second rebuttal 2 of 2: /watch?v=7UWFBD707ic
I will have my rebuttals posted on my very first video (which is in the above Video Responses section) and also my closing statement.
Yuratchka 2 years ago
@Yuratchka, excellent. I applaud your effort in this debate but you lost buddy. I am uploading my second rebuttal and closing statement now. Take care.
KeithTruth 2 years ago
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@KeithTruth. I uploaded my second rebuttal 1 of 2.
I will work on 2 of 2 next week since it is now Shabbat.
Yuratchka 2 years ago
@KeithTruth. Okay, I uploaded my first 2 part rebuttal.
I'll do my second rebuttal probably some time nexy week.
Yuratchka 2 years ago
@Yuratchka, I will respond to your 1st rebuttal in the next few day. Remember your second rebuttal should be in response to what I am going to say in my next video. Take care.
KeithTruth 2 years ago
@KeithTruth. Hold on here, I'm not going to be making my second rebuttal on your second rebuttal, that's not our agreement.
My second rebuttal is going to be on your first rebuttal just as your second rebuttal is going to be on my first rebuttal.
Yuratchka 2 years ago
Okay your choice, address whatever you want..
KeithTruth 2 years ago
Well, hold one a second. What are you going to address? My 1st Rebuttal? So why should I address your 2nd Rebuttal instead of addresing your 1st Rebuttal? Does that make sense to you? If you are going to address my 1st Rebuttal then I toll will address your 1st Rebuttal.
Yuratchka 2 years ago
Thats fine.
KeithTruth 2 years ago
@KeithTruth. I have just made my two parts of my 1st rebuttal. I will upload them in a bit.
Yuratchka 2 years ago
@Yuratchka: You are remiss to point out that Doceticism was and is a feature of gnostic Christianity, which by no means represents the majority of believers in Christ as deity, but rather a sect believing His resurrection was a spiritual, not physical, event. Your consistent error in presenting Jesus as a created being is in using arguments whose conclusion and premise are the same. These are all logical fallacies. And again, your belief that Jesus was not deity is apostate.
jayorama1 2 years ago 2
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@Yuratchka: I reject your conclusion because it is based on reductionism, a faithless system of intellectual study. I take no issue with the fact that "saviors" can be human beings, only the logical fallacy you derive from it that Jeroboam and Jesus are both created beings. Be careful of your pride, my friend, the letter kills.
jayorama1 2 years ago
Yuratchka: You are stumbling over the truth. Based on your theology, God lied when stating that "BESIDE me, there is no savior." We know He did not lie. He sent Moses et al to "lead them to victory in battle," but He did not send them to be our Redeemer/Messiah. That Moses was a savior does does not refute the Almighty's declaration that
"BESIDE me there is no savior" as God Himself provided Moses! Jesus is the "ONLY name ("savior") given to us for ETERNAL salvation, thus He is God
jayorama1 2 years ago
@jayorama1, like I said, you are not qualified to debate me on this. This has NOTHING to do with my theology, it's a matter of ACCEPTING the text which you are REJECTING. I gave you a passage where the same Hebrew word in Isaiah 43:11 for Savior (MOSHI'A) is used in 2 Kings 13:5. Don't bother me again with this. Have a nice day.
Yuratchka 2 years ago
Yuratchka, as far as I understand it you believe Christ was JUST a God, but what about Deuteronomy 6:4 Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:.
Lord = God, and it's one Lord. Why don't you just repent and admit you're wrong, the humiliation on your part is just too hard to swallow, the way you're getting refuted is just almost unbearable ! Do you have any dignity ? I guess not. And why are you sending invites to almost all Christians ? On a satanic mission lately ?
michaeljacksongone 2 years ago 2
@michaeljacksongone. First of you, you don't know what you're talking about when it comes to LORD here. It is YHVH not "God." Second, it says YHVH ECHAD, YHVH IS ONE not "one Lord." Third, you're projecting your emotions upon me. Fourth, I don't appreciate your questions that have nothing to do with the debate.
Yuratchka 2 years ago
So you dismiss the Kjv then ? I believe I typed it down correctly, and the translation into English is correct to because Jewish scholars admit the translation to be accurate. Btw, what you just said and all your other points have been refuted already, are you trying to blind the masses ?
watch?v=4cs_chp1wSU
Also your objection towards john 1:1, tell me, do you actually study the matter or are you just here for the lolz ?
michaeljacksongone 2 years ago
I've read pages of comments of Christiansin the last few days, they all thank you for the invite, I will write down all their names and make a clip about you saying that Christ isn't Lord and watch how fast your friendslist will drop in numbers.Why are you accepting all them to be your friend while they totally disagree with you ? You're disgusting
michaeljacksongone 2 years ago 2
@michaeljacksongone. I never said "Christ isn't Lord." You're being an accuser right now, bearing false witness for that matter.
Yuratchka 2 years ago
On top of that you know that many of them don't agree with your position and it's actually being considered to be evil teachings by the scriptures. Are you trying to get them to your channel so you can convert them into Arianism ? Don't you think you're crossing borders right now ? I will save all your friends in a file and send them the url of clip I will made about you so they can all see what your position is. You're Satanic man, that's just a evil way
michaeljacksongone 2 years ago 2
@michaeljacksongone. I don't appreciate your ad hominems. And threatening to send some kinf od url of a clip you will make about me only shows me just how scared the demons are that they make people like you do the things you're doing.
Yuratchka 2 years ago
Yeah of course, demons are on my side, I believe you right away ! Will make my clip and send them to your friends, I will keep it nice, just the facts, not hard though, everything you said in your opening speech has been answered already, you're dariing old cows out of the .... hehe. Something else, if you need to turn scriptures upside down to fit your teachings I believe you're going against scriptures already...
michaeljacksongone 2 years ago
KeithTruth: I wanted to tell you I like the vid, it's very well done. I'll be viewing more of your material in the days to come. I fear that someone like Yuratchka is apostate, why do you give him air time on your channel?
jayorama1 2 years ago
@jayorama1, he challenged me to debate the issue so I accepted. I think if people watch the whole debate it will strengthen their faith.
KeithTruth 2 years ago
@KeithTruth, just wanted to let you know that though I may not have been your target audience (since my faith is strong already re: doctrine of Jesus' deity), you're blessing me by this too as I have now been convicted of neglect of proclaiming this doctrine. It's way past time I collect in a playlist videos on Jesus being God...that's a big stumbling block &/or confusion for people of so many backgrounds & I haven't made a dedicated list on that yet, I am now ashamed to realize. So thanks.
EncompassedRunner 2 years ago
amen friend, heresey like arianism, JW and Islam, all cults that deny the deity of Christ decieve a lot of people. This is a very important topic indeed. I am glad you felt convicted to enter this battle.
KeithTruth 2 years ago
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jayorama1 2 years ago
Yuratchka: You fail to rightly divide the Word of God by treating it reductively. God's revelation is gestaltic, thus His truth is revealed in larger patterns. The other MOSHIAs or saviors were foreshadows of the coming Christ, they in no way could have brought eternal salvation to humanity (only victory to earthly battles.) Nor does God contradict Himself in saying He alone is our Savior. No created being can BE as Yahweh the Redeemer and Messiah, which is why Jesus had no earthly father.
jayorama1 2 years ago
@jayorama1. You have a double standard. The fact is that the word MOSHI'A is used in both Isaiah 43:11 and in 2 Kings 13:5 (who is identified in 2 Kings 14:27). You are plainly rejecting these facts. I destroyed your "savior" argument with this, you are just having a hard time accepting it.
By the way, the plural of MOSHI'A is MOSHI'IM not "MOSHIAs."
Take care. =)
Yuratchka 2 years ago
Yuratchka: All you proved is that God directs men to deliver His people from earthy battles, which cannot deny Yahweh's declaration of Himself as SOLE REDEEMER. You are listening to Satan, my friend.
jayorama1 2 years ago 2
@jayorama1. I used the Hebrew Bible and showed the same word that is used in Isaiah 43:11 to be used in 2 Kings 13:5 where it says that YHVH gave Israel a MOSHI'A (the exact same word in Isaiah 43:11). You're rejecting the scripture.
God is the ultimate savior, and he saves through Jesus; John 3:16-17, 1 John 4:14, Acts 5:31, and 1 Thessalonians 5:9-10. This is no different than God saving through other's in the Hebrew Bible; 2 Kings 13:5 (2 Kings 14:27), 1 Samuel 9:16, 2 Samuel 3:18, etc.
Yuratchka 2 years ago
@Yuratchka: You said: "To believe someone is the true God when they are not is called idolatry and idolater shall have their part in the Lake of Fire..." Jesus was likewise accused of blasphemy when he said He Himself was the light of the world and that "before Abraham was, I AM." Did He not refer to Himself as God? And when they started to stone him, did he recant? What you believe, instead, is that a created being died for your sins, and that itself is idolatry, as only Yahweh can save us.
jayorama1 2 years ago
@jayorama1, I have two videos on John 8 An Examination in my playlist 'Against godmanism' and I also have a video called 'Kosher Translation of John 8:58' and you might as well watch my video on Exodus 3:14.
You further said "What you believe, instead, is that a created being died for your sins, and that itself is idolatry,"
Like I said, you are not qualified to debate me and I just shot down your argument with Isaiah 41:11, 2 Kings 13:5, and 2 Kings 14:27.
Have a nice day. =)
Yuratchka 2 years ago
No one is equal with the father, yet the gospel of John makes it very clear Christ was one with the father, you want to play some translation games with that too you Arian ? Like your kind tried to do in the 4th century ?
I totally owned you, you should debate the kiddies and don't come on channels like this, you're way too uneducated
ClaireWaldoff 2 years ago
@ClaireWaldoff, you're too ignorant and so are your comments to be able to debate me. Please don't bother wasting my time further.
Thanks. =)
Yuratchka 2 years ago
I will bother, sorry about that, just giving you a history lesson, it's my right
ClaireWaldoff 2 years ago 2
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Yuratchka 2 years ago
@Yuratchka: It was not an ad hominem but rather a point of difference in our beliefs. You asked: "...are you saying that Jehu, a human being, in the Hebrew Bible is Jehovah because his name is 'He is Jehovah'?" If he had fulfilled the prophecy of the Messiah Redeemer as Jesus/Yeshua did, resurrected and then appeared afterward, yes.
jayorama1 2 years ago
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@jayorama1. You said " If he had fulfilled the prophecy of the Messiah Redeemer as Jesus/Yeshua did, resurrected and then appeared afterward, yes." What the hell does this have to do with being called Jehu? You have a double standard.
Yuratchka 2 years ago
@Yuratchka: 1 John 4:3 refers to Christ, or Messiah. 43:11 refers to Yahweh as the SOLE savior of Man. The Messiah (Yeshua) and the Savior (YaHWeH) are therefore the same person.
jayorama1 2 years ago
@jayorama1. You don't know your Bible at all.
Isaiah 43:11 I, I am the LORD, and besides me there is no [MOSHIA].
2 Kings 13:5 Therefore the Lord gave Israel a [MOSHIA], so that they escaped from the hand of the Arameans; and the people of Israel lived in their homes as formerly.
The above MOSHI'A (savior) that YHVH gave to Israel is Jeroboam son of Joash who is found in 2 Kings 14:27.
You're not qualified to debate me. Leave it alone. LOL.
Yuratchka 2 years ago
"Isaiah 43:11 I, I am the LORD, and besides me there is no [MOSHIA]."
That's because the son is part of the Godhead you blind Arian, go cast done some Patriarchs in Antioch like your kind did back then LOL
ClaireWaldoff 2 years ago
@ClaireWaldoff. You quoted Isaiah 43:11 and then you said "That's because the son is part of the Godhead..." What the hell are you talking about? I quoted Isaiah 43:11 with 2 Kings 13:5 and 2 Kings 14:27 to demonstrate that if another being is called MOSHI'A (savior) that it doesn't make that other being YHVH.
Yuratchka 2 years ago
"What the hell are you talking about? I quoted Isaiah 43:11 with 2 Kings 13:5 and 2 Kings 14:27 to demonstrate that if another being is called"
You didn't make any sence nor did you even understand what I wrote, shame on you
Yuratchka,you should already be glad that someone like Keith pays attention to you. My answer was right, you don't like the word Godhead, Satan doesn't want you to understand it I believe
ClaireWaldoff 2 years ago 2
@Yuratchka: We like to assume that an argument is the one presented to us, but that is seldom the case. My question for you is this. What difference does it make for you to believe that Jesus is a created being and not God? Do you worship Him differently than those who believe otherwise? I would appreciate if you could explain this to me.
jayorama1 2 years ago
@jayorama1.
What difference it makes for me to believe that Jesus is a created being and not God? All the difference in the world, because Jesus is God's unique creation, his unique Son. It is important to know Jesus for who Jesus is. To believe someone is the true God when they are not is called idolatry and idolater shall have their part in the Lake of Fire as the Book of Revelation says.
I don't worship Jesus as if Jesus is the true God, that would be idolatry.
Yuratchka 2 years ago
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@Yuratchka: You also said: "Sorry, but your statement about being antichrist because one denies the deity of Jesus is unsupported by the Bible." I disagree. 1 John 4:3 says: "And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist..." Since Christ is Messiah, and Isaiah 43:11 reveals there is no savior BESIDES Yahweh, one cannot deny the deity of Jesus without also denying that Yahweh, as Messiah, came in the flesh.
jayorama1 2 years ago
@jayorama1. What does 1 John 4:3 have to do with Isaiah 43:11? You need to learn how to give proper references instead of chopping the scriptures as if it is a salad. 1 John 4:3 is anti-docetic.
Yuratchka 2 years ago
@jayorama1.
Doceticism: The name comes from the Greek word DOKEO, which means to seem or to appear. It maintained that Jesus was not a full flesh-and-blood human being. He was instead completely (and only) divine; he only seemed or appeared to be a human being, to feel hunger, thirst, and pain, to bleed, to die. Since Jesus was God, he could not really be a man.
Yuratchka 2 years ago
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jayorama1 2 years ago
@Yuratchka: Would you agree that "Father of Eternity" and "Everlasting Father" refer to the same being? And would you not agree that the "Father of Eternity" is also our *Everlasting Father*? You said: "I have no problem with Jesus having the name "Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Father of Eternity... since it's a praise name, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO MEAN THAT WHAT HIS NAME IS IS WHAT HE IS... and every Jew knows this." You are thus confessing that you hold the same doubt as unbelieving Jews.
jayorama1 2 years ago
@jayorama1. Hold to the same doubt as the unbelieving Jews? Nice ad hominem. The name 'Jehu' means 'HE IS JEHOVAH (for the sake of the argument I use the spelling Jehovah).' So, are you saying that Jehu, a human being, in the Hebrew Bible is Jehovah because his name is 'He is Jehovah'?
Yuratchka 2 years ago
The Word is clear that Jesus and God are the same being (ie., that Jesus was not created), however we can pose this as a logic question. If you agree that God is a spirit, how can a Spirit give birth to a "son?" There is only one way. God incarnated HIMSELF through the virgin birth in order to convey HIMSELF in that role. The alternative is to believe that Jesus came into existence only at His conception inside Mary, which cannot be true since he declared "...before Abraham, I am."
jayorama1 2 years ago
thepeoplehunter: It is the spirit of anti christ that denies the absolute deity of Jesus Christ. Our heavenly Father inserted Himself into the human race and His OWN testimony proves it. When I close my prayers, I often say "...thank you Father my Savior, Jesus."
jayorama1 2 years ago
@jayorama1, sorry, but your stament about being antichrist because one denies the deity is unsupported by the Bible. I recommend that you watch my video What It Means To Be AntiChrist: /watch?v=7_KqUfZx8Qo
As for the Father inserting himself into the human race, this goes against the Bible, go read Psalm 121, God cannot sleep nor slumber. Then go read James 1:17, there is no variant or shadow due to change with God, God cannot change and become a human. Sorry.
Yuratchka 2 years ago
Isaiah 9:6: "For unto us a Child is born, Unto us a Son is given; And the government will be upon His shoulder. And His name will be called Wonderful, Counselor, MIGHTY GOD, EVERLASTING FATHER, Prince of Peace."
Isaiah 43:10,11: You are My witnesses, says the Lord, And My servant whom I have chosen, That you may know and believe Me, and understand that I am He. Before Me there was no God formed, Nor shall there be after Me. I, even I, am the Lord, and BESIDES Me there is no Savior.
jayorama1 2 years ago 4
@jayorama1, that's a horrible translation of Isaiah 9. First, AVIYAD is FATHER OF ETERNITY not EVERLASTING FATHER. Second, go buy yourself a Artscroll Stone Edition Tanach and see how it translates the passage.
Yuratchka 2 years ago
You are the one mistranslating even according to the Jewish Targum:
"The prophet saith to the house of David, A child has been born to us, a son has been given to us; and he has taken the law upon himself to keep it, and his name has been called from of old, Wonderful counselor, Mighty God, He who lives forever, the Anointed One (or Messiah), in whose days peace shall increase upon us." (The Targum of Isaiah, J.F. Stenning, Editor and Translator [Oxford: Clarendon], p. 32)
KeithTruth 2 years ago
@KeithTruth, Targum is a interpretation, not a literal translation. Further, thanks for showing that the Targum says HAS BEEN BORN and HAS BEEN GIVEN which is exactly what the Hebrew text says. What I said to jayorama1 is a not a mistranslation was right on. =)
Yuratchka 2 years ago
Its not a word for word literal translation correct but it does translate the key word in dispute, MIGHTY GOD, the word you say is properly translated in other texts. Well this Jewish text translates it as Mighty God that is all I am saying. Granted its not a word for word translation.
KeithTruth 2 years ago
@KeithTruth. I didn't mention anything about a mighty god in my response to jayorama1 but rather told him/her to buy a Artscroll Stone Edition Tanach as see how it translations that passage and I mentioned that AVIYAD properly translated doesn't mean 'EVERLASTING FATHER' but rather 'FATHER OF ETERNITY.' Now, can it be interpreted as 'Eternal Father'? Yes, it can be interpreted into a translation that way, but the more literal one is 'FATHER OF ETERNITY.'
Yuratchka 2 years ago
@Yuratchka granted.
KeithTruth 2 years ago
@KeithTruth. Since you brought up MIGHTY GOD, it is akward but EL GIBBOR can be translated as MIGHTY HERO and any educated Jew in Hebrew will say the same. However, the more likely translation is MIGHTY GOD.
Pointing to Isaiah 9:5 (or verse 6) doesn't do anything except show what kind of praise name this child has. There's a guy in the Hebrew Bible with the name Jehu (which means HE IS JEH) yet no one argues that that guy is JEH, another guy named Ithiel (EL IS WITH ME), etc.
Yuratchka 2 years ago
@Yuratchka, Incorrect. Only two people in the entire OT are identified as El Gibbor . SON in Isaiah 9:6 and YHWH in Isaiah 10:21. Those exact words are only applied to them. Yes el can have different meanings but its obviously a reference to creator God here.
KeithTruth 2 years ago
@KeithTruth. I'm only showing that there's different ways to translate the name and that there's different ways to translate the passage (as Artscroll Stone Edition Tanach translated it a whole different way and says he called his name Sar-shalom [Prince of Peace]).
I have no problem with Jesus having the name "Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Father of Eternity, Sar-shalom" since it's a praise name, it doesn't have to mean that what his name is is what he is, and every Jew knows this.
Yuratchka 2 years ago
too bad I can't praise anyone else and call them Mighty God, Father of Eternity... Wait, that would be blasphemy wouldn't it... good thing I don't call upon the names of others then the name of Jesus who yourself have no problem saying he has the name "Mighty God" and "Father of Eternity."
blkedwashedazn 2 years ago
blasphemy is owned
that one denier of the deity cant win
you can fight against the people who have read and taught the bible and studied for decades !
ie. John Calvin, Martin Luther, John MacArthur, Charles Spurgeon ETC!!
Hordeofantestor 2 years ago
So, where is my comment? Was it not good enough to be posted? Did I say anything insulting or threatening? I even praised you Keith. You are now reminding me of venomfangx. Keith, if you are going to allow comments, then you have to be aware that there may be some that you do not like or approve of, but that doesn't mean that you have to be a comment nazi just to look better or to be politically correct.
randallsnowb 2 years ago
There is no pending approval on keiths channel, I'm free to post too on all his clips. You're just a little disgusting atheist ready to accuse Christians.
Get your facts together before you make yourself look like a fool. Obviously you used too many spaces or dots. But you're too stupid to realize that.
So suck on that atheist liar
ClaireWaldoff 2 years ago
Lol, I'm not an atheist. I am a Christian, and I will say whats on my mind with other Christians, I guess its unusual, but I dont discriminate. Christians sometimes gets things wrong too ya know...
Oh and to point out the irony here, maybe you should get your facts together before you make yourself a fool as well. all you had to do is look at my profile.
But I will apologize to Keith if it is a youtube problem, it just scared me that he might do like what VFX did. I like Keith too much.
randallsnowb 2 years ago
@randallsnowb There have been a lot of problems with youtube lately with posting comments, I just recommend reposting your comment, don't take it personally. Be careful about making accusations of people being a "nazi" before you know what really happened or you might just get your comments removed afterall.
lurasman 2 years ago 2
I was pretty sure it was posted, but if it is a youtube problem, then I'm truly sorry. you have to forgive me for the way I put things like when I said that he didn't have to be a comment nazi. it was just a figure of speach not intended as an insult, but a way to explain the reason for my frustration.
but than
randallsnowb 2 years ago
Phil 2:6, if Jesus is already in the form of God, as in sharing essence, then how could he not be equal with God always from eternity, since he is God? What is the purpose here of saying he "thought it not robbery to be equal with God", if he is God already?
Marridoth 2 years ago
I just debunked Yuratchka at his channel, people don't know the history of the Arians, they tried to corrupt the teachings in the 4th century and appointed several fake Patriarchs onto the seat of Antioch. But they were dismissed and their teachings didn't get into the canon, they still try to corrupt it till this day.
But just like in those days the true word will stand strong, you should make a clip about their history Keith and what they did in the 4th century !
ClaireWaldoff 2 years ago
@ClaireWaldoff, the only thing you did was make a fool out of yourself.
Yuratchka 2 years ago
I did ? Like telling you the truth about you Arians ? And what horrible things you did to the Syrians to get the seat of Antioch in order to corrupt it's teachings ?
You're filth, and you can't debate me, so you call me names, I call you names because I know your history, and I know that makes you scared. Everything you try to do on your channel HAS ALREADY BEEN REFUTED in the 4th and 5th century and there is a reason why your evil teachings didn't reach the major audience
ClaireWaldoff 2 years ago
@ClaireWaldoff. Are you drunk? Where did I call you "names"? I said you are ignorant, and you are. You don't know what the hell you're talking about.
Yuratchka 2 years ago
Yuratchka, I will not allow you to come here and call people names and say "You don't know what the hell you're talking about." Please refrain from such language.
KeithTruth 2 years ago
@KeithTruth. Okay, sorry.
Yuratchka 2 years ago
Yuratchka, you're just a copy cat ready to get slammed just like your kind back then. Your avatar speaks tongues LOL
ClaireWaldoff 2 years ago
@ClaireWaldoff. I'm just a copy cat? LOL. Dude, don't bother talking to me until you get a clue. I've come to my beliefs on my own unlike. I consider myself an Arian because I later found out that what I believe is basically what Arius also believed concerning Jesus being a created being, not being one being with the Father, etc.
Yuratchka 2 years ago
I'm not a dude, I'm a lady and I know history including the horrible things you DID in the 4th century, grow a pair kid, learn history and why your teachings have been refuted ages ago.
YOUR KIND has been refuted already, you're a copy cat because you just reply what has been tried 1600 years ago. The horrible acts by your kind towards the people in Antioch shows how evil you are, LEARN HISTORY and don't debate someone when you don't have the knowledge
Jesus created ? Did you rape scriptures ?
ClaireWaldoff 2 years ago
@ClaireWaldoff. Please don't respond to me anymore. I have nothing further to say to you. Bye.
Yuratchka 2 years ago
No of course not, because I caught you with history, people like you are always running away when we bring up your history.
Once I heard the word ARIAN I snapped and why ? Because I studied history and those with me know how many people were killed by YOUR KIND to place several CORRUPTED Patriarchs into the Antioch seat.
Your bloody history proved what you are. Every point you tried to made has been refuted and you're just a funny person, someone to LOL at
ClaireWaldoff 2 years ago
Yuratchka, be smart for a change, remove your clips and channel and go hide under a bridge or something before I call my friends, all historians and we will present you some historical numbers about the amount of people you Arians killed. The blood is still on your hands because you keep up with their evil teachings.
ClaireWaldoff 2 years ago
@ClaireWaldoff. I told you to stop responding to me. I don't need to listen to the nonsense you're talking about. Don't make me block you.
Yuratchka 2 years ago
Yuratchka, are you really that stupid ? Go ahead, block me, it will not change anything about me responding to you over here, I will not visit your channel anymore, your bloody history freaks me out. No, instead I will respond to you over here and give you some history lessons. You blocking me cannot change that.
Arians killed thousands of people and tried to corrupt the early churches by their evil teachings and you're just a copy cat ROFLMAO
ClaireWaldoff 2 years ago
@ClaireWaldoff. Actually I'm very clever. I just will ignore your comments on here and I won't bother to open the messages in my message notification section when I see that your name is there. So basically I won't see the garbage your posting anymore. Good bye.
Yuratchka 2 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Ohw yes, you're very clever :-(
"@ClaireWaldoff. Please don't respond to me anymore. I have nothing further to say to you. Bye. "
But you prove right now that you have something to say, funny Arian bloodthirsty person you are !
And by garbage you mean telling everyone what your kind did about 1700 years ago ? You know what ? Write this on your chest, CORRUPTED PATRIARCHS APPOINTED BY EVIL ARIANS IN ANTIOCH. Go ahead, write it down. Sissy...
ClaireWaldoff 2 years ago
He alone is omnipotence{1Ch 29:11-12; 2Ch 20:6 Mat 6:13; Luk 1:37}. He alone does all things according to his will{Mat 7:21; Mat 26:39,42; Eph 1:9,11; Dan 4:35}. He alone by his own will created all things{Rev 4:11} and he alone keeps stretching the heavens{Job 9:8}.
rYzHrV62H 2 years ago
You guys are dreaming if you believe that Jesus is inherently the one God, who is the father, whom is one YHVH. The father alone possesses immortality{1Ti 6:16}. He does not change, he alone is unchangeable{Jam 1:17; Mal 3:6}. He alone is Omniscient{Psa 147:5; Isa 46:10; Act 1:6-7; Mar 13:32}.
rYzHrV62H 2 years ago
Jesus said, "I am in the Father and the Father is in me".
That should explain things,,,but not everyone wants to know.
Rob187ok 2 years ago
I thought we exterminated the heretics of the Arian movement?
I suppose, Satan's minions can never be truly destroyed by man.
smartwarlord 2 years ago
I have uploaded my Opening Statement and have posted a video response.
Yuratchka 2 years ago
Daniel's descriptionDan10:5-6 John's description Rev1;13-16*John the Revelator & Daniel seen the same*Who is the 4th in firey furnanceDan3;25*How long was Jesus with his people "before" he was born in Bethlehem.Micah5;2"What a Revelation of God!*Deliverer of OT& NT times none other than Christ!*Father Son & HolySpirit, One in unity working 4 the salvation, redemption &deliverance of the human race.Many nuggets of truth for those who seek them out.*I get a rush each time I find.GET HIGH on truth!
dbberrydb 2 years ago
Wow Keith, this was an awesome Opening Statement. God bless you brother and make sure this is founded off of love.
The conclusion is really bold too. Very nice.
xchampx 2 years ago
" Therefore, as you received Christ Jesus the Lord, so walk in him, rooted and built up in him and established in the faith, just as you were taught, abounding in thanksgiving. See to it that no one takes you captive by philosophy and empty deceit, according to human tradition, according to the elemental spirits of the world, and not according to Christ. For in him the whole fullness of deity dwells bodily," (Col 2:6-9)
Right there... "fullness of deity"
LogosApologia 2 years ago
i have on my channel a lot of verses who say Jesus is God and about Trinity for those who want to see.Irrefutable
Telkuad 2 years ago
@KeithTruth. I have compiled the scriptures and I will most likely have my Opening Statement uploaded today.
Yuratchka 2 years ago
@Yuratchka excellent
KeithTruth 2 years ago
Ripped out-of-context.
xchampx 2 years ago
i think Yuratchka just lost the game.
good job keith.
Zuroq 2 years ago
@Zuroq. I think you're jumping the gun without hearing the debate yet.
Yuratchka 2 years ago
Islam = antichrist. That is scripture.
1 John 2:22
Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
1 John 4:3
And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
If your worried about misdirection, stay clear of Islam.
taaronemore74 2 years ago 5
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Jesus (pbuh) was a great and noble prophet, period.
Find out about Islam, dont get misdirected.
Peace
PayChkSlaveRebellion 2 years ago
Joh 1:1 & 14 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the WORD WAS GOD. - And THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
1Ti 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: GOD WAS MANIFEST IN THE FLESH
Tit 2:13 Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of THE GREAT GOD AND OUR SAVIOUR JESUS CHRIST;
IDH77 2 years ago
Did you even bother watching this? Obviously not.
xchampx 2 years ago
PayChkSlaveRebellion: Great and noble prophets don't resurrect themselves. Read the book of Revelations. He declares Himself to be the "alpha and omega." Created beings can't say that.
jayorama1 2 years ago
I think I might be able to put up my opening statement today, but now I am off to work. And I say I think because I might be too tired to do so once I am done with working on the roof (I'm a roofer). I'll see, but I think I might be able to put something together today.
Yuratchka 2 years ago
@Yuratchka Looking forward to it.
KeithTruth 2 years ago
Easy way to explain the Trinity:
H2O is either solid, liquid or steam.
God is either the Father, Son or Holy Spirit.
SilasRD 2 years ago
@SilasRD. God is omnipresent and there is no variant with him. Your h20 analogy is fails and it doesn't even represent a triune god but rather a modalistic/oneness god.
Yuratchka 2 years ago
Thats true, I don't believe any analogies like that work, Even William Lane Craig dismisses them. But should we expect to be able to make Gods innermost being analagous to something when we can't even comprehend his eternality? Its not a good methodology to assert that Trinity is beyond comprehension because so is eternity of God.
KeithTruth 2 years ago
Just like a man and woman marry and become one, it is the same concept with God the father, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit are one.
God bless
damianplus 2 years ago
@damianplus. This language of the Father, Jesus, and God's Holy Presence being one just like a man and a woman is one when they marry isn't used anywhere in the Canon.
Yuratchka 2 years ago
I wasn't quoting from the canon I was just making ref to the idea to better understand the point re: God the father, Jesus and the Holy Spirit.
God bless
damianplus 2 years ago
Good WORKS my brother...we shall see eachother there!
ISworeanOath 2 years ago
You can even proof this from the Tanakh.
Isaiah 9:6 Son born... Mighty God, Everlasting Father.....
Isaiah 48:12, 16 I am he; I am the first, I also am the last. v.16 the Lord GOD, and his Spirit, has sent me.
Micah 5:2 But you, Bethlehem Ephratah...... that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting.
No one has seen God at ant time. Jesus represents God in physical form and saves on the Fathers behalf, as one of God's manifestations!
Ramohog 2 years ago
place dont use the jewish name Tanakh for the scriptures if your going to follow the trinities idolatry.
Yirmeyahu23 2 years ago
Since when is YHWH, His presence and His Spirit on man idolatry. Especially since it was all prophecized to come. and all throughout the Tanakh. Read Isaiah 63: 7-10 It's all there!
Ramohog 2 years ago
May the Holy Spirit be with you, my brother.
5to22a 2 years ago
great video man! i'm impressed with your knowledge.
Lypur 2 years ago
Even though I don't agree with the points presented, I still have to say that that was a good presentation. Good opening statement.
IvanDefendingTruth 2 years ago
We wouldn't expect a JW agree with the truth of the Holy Bible. You are being a good Staffordite.
shamounian 2 years ago
If Jesus had been anything less than the Almighty in human form, his sacrifice would not have accomplished universal salvation. Who alone is worthy -- Who can BE worthy -- BUT the Almighty? The Father and Son are ONE. It is His testimony.
jayorama1 2 years ago
@jayorama1. You ought to watch my video 'Christdem's Another Gospel' in my playlist 'The Son of God.' You are rejecting the gospel that God sent his Son to die and have replaced it with a private gospel that God came and died.
Yuratchka 2 years ago
Then we would have to debate what it means for JESUS to be God's Son. It means that Jesus is unique with God in that he shares the divine nature of God. I can show this from the texts of scripture!
KeithTruth 2 years ago
apologetics at its finest!! Glory to the God of the Bible:Father,Son,and Spirit!!
footpedaldave 2 years ago
Excellent job Keith!!!!
This was superb!!
Peace&Love
God bless
n0b0dy508 2 years ago
If Jesus is not GOD then why are not saved at all. Only the ONE TRUE GOD can do that for us. its all over the Bible
CIRELUX 2 years ago
according to your theology, not knowing the scriptures or judaism
Yirmeyahu23 2 years ago
HEY * * * *
Basically to sum it up
John 1:1 - "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." 1. John 1:14 - "And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, glory as of the only begotten from the Father, full of grace and truth."
Jesus is God in the flesh and i love Jesus and i am ready to die for my savior the way He died for me.
SuaveCapone 2 years ago
@SuaveCapone
Had to reply to myself to say BOW BOW
lol
i love it
SuaveCapone 2 years ago
great video, Praise and Love Almighty Father in Heaven/Jesus Christ FOREVER
iToyRobot 2 years ago
keith is that dude boy. lol
joeprofits 2 years ago
Trinitarian > Arianism.
darklink0112 2 years ago
We'll see. =)
Yuratchka 2 years ago
Great work Keith... Very well researched - to be honest, I didn't think the other chap you COULD debate the divinity of Christ since the Bible's full of evidence of it...
WeAreChangeMelbourne 2 years ago 2
yeah, and thats the same thing God the Father said in Isaiah: "That unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear."
thats why it says "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was WITH God, and the Word WAS God."
"And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was."
"God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you."
Leiflton 2 years ago 5
Jesus said "Before Abraham was, I AM."
God said, "Hearken unto me, O Jacob and Israel, my called; I am he; I am the first, I also am the last."
Jesus said, "I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last."
Leiflton 2 years ago 6
I've been waiting for this a long time. May the truth shine forth.
Peace and wisdom lawless ones.
SHEEPinWOLFskin 2 years ago
Interesting presenting. I'll upload my opening statement as soon as I am able to. Hopefully on Wensday, but I do not contol the future so it might be a few days after Wensday, but I think it will be this week.
Thanks for your patience in waiting. =)
Yuratchka 2 years ago
You can't argue with truth ;)
wingnut4427 2 years ago 2