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  • it isn't i saw that shinigami in episode 4 or episode 3

  • plus Ryuk told light in one of the episodes in series 1 that Light seems to be a more worthy Shinigami than he is

  • Nope. Chuck Testa.

  • i wish ryuk would have told the shinigami that he is light -__-

  • U NOOBS that ISN'T ligth's Reincarnation, He is just a shinigami from Death Note Rewrite. In the manga, ryuk tells light that when a human dies he goes to he MU world (he ceases to exist) and there's a rule in the anime about it too.

  • @lol68260 that rule appears in the last ep

  • @lol68260 Since Light used the death note, Ryuk said he would be sent the shinigami world. He didn't mention how he would enter.

  • @lol68260 the MU world?

    megaupload world?

    it explains everything then

  • @Daimen555 kiras theme

  • whats that song called?

  • Im pretty sure that is light cause he is wearing a Tuxedo which light wears all the time.

  • No.

  • Light dies like a bitch in the original manga.

    At least he dies with some peace and dignity in the anime.

  • EXPLAIN THIS /watch?v=WjFY_fAAowU

  • Everyone talks about how L became an arancar, but nobody ever talks about how Mello look like Shinji Hirako

  • The Jacket he's wearing looks kind of like the jacket light wore when he died, and also the bag at his side looks like the one light had.

  • @bloopsir yeah but the biker-glasses and the headband don't fit in

  • @TheDude9491 I think he has those to disguise his identidy. If the headband was gone, and his hair was hanging down. he would look EXACTLY like Light.

  • I think thats Tai from digimon...

  • @ikerhollow yes that is true but its unnamed thus its unknown it is just a theory but that does look like light in a way

  • that shinigami is not kira, is simpli a shinigami, like ryuk, i found in in the death note wiki, just go to the death note wiki homepage and find unnamed shinigami

  • When you write in the Notebook, you are sent to neither Heaven nor Hell. In other words, Purgatory. The Void. The Nothingness. If Light were to come back, then it is possible that his reincarnation could be in the form of a Shinigami. But would he really ask Ryuk what happened? Wouldn't he come back with a basket of Human World apples and tell him that he's back? It is possible that he came back. But for it to be this new Shinigami that appears is very unlikely.

  • @ViDeoDuDe1928 he didn't want Ryuk to tell him the story. He simply wanted to know how to get to the human world. If he really is Light, I think WE ALL know why he wants to go there.besides.Ryuk even said he was Light at the end...

  • @cianator1 Hmm...maybe you're right.

  • @ViDeoDuDe1928 yeah..i'm hoping they might continue the series with the shinigami being light and all( or, maybe make death note another note an anime) but that probably will never happen :( anyway, with crime rates down by 70% and the theory that lights still alive, I guess he really did win O_O

  • .........L can and should come back. Light needs to disappear/go to hell. Besides, we can't really compare Bleach the Death Note, because it is specifically stated in one of the earlier Bleach episodes that there is a hell

  • wait, i thought that if you wrote in the death note, then you'd be sent to nothingness.

  • @MultiBlackShades no you can either go to hell or heaven completely random you wouldnt know where you'd go

  • People who think that light didn't go to heaven or hell because he used the death note are wrong. In the manga, light figured that the reason the death note said that was because there was no heaven or hell and ryuk confirmed that. Therefore, light could be that shinigami.

  • @TheDewey101 True, in the manga, Ryuk clearly states that there is no heaven or hell, but I'm guessing since the people who were working on the movie and anime didn't want offend anyone who was religious and decided to leave that part making people think that is just part of the Death Note's rules.

  • No, it's not.Just stupid fanboys being...well, stupid.

  • Yeah that's light alright

    ... Hey I made a rhyme!!!

  • there are more pressing matters than this in death note that have not been answered

    1) Was it really coincidence that the Death Note fell next to light (given the premise that Shinigami can view and observe people from their word) - i think not

    2) Users of a Death Note neither go to heaven nor hell - Nothingness - the shingami world / given this are all Shingami previous users of Death Notes on the Earth, and have lost memory of such accounts ?

  • @Maz7006 Actually Ryuuk says soemthing about neither heaven or hell and light replies something like, i already know that ryuuk, there is no such thing as heaven or hell.

  • @Maz7006 You know that second one is interesting.But how did then the Death note appeared on earth. Ryuk said that before light there were several times when Death note was dropped to earth by shinigami.But if shinigamis are humans who used death note on earth how was the first shinigami created? Where the death note came from?

  • @obsidian0610 It came from Shinigami realm, the head of all Shinigamis created death notes, you should type on Death Note's wiki Shinigami Realm and it will be all explained there but there isn't really a bio how that boss the main shinigami was created and how he is making the notes, but you can see how he looks like in manga, that is all that is known...

  • if light will turn to a shinigami, then turn ryuk to a human then :p

  • i don't get it i think they should make more episodes because they never said what happens to the owner of the death note after they die

  • i have a couple of key points im not sure if any of them are correct but...

    1) is it coincidence that that shinigami looks like ryuk?

    2) since jealous died isnt it possible that they needed a shinigami and since light was like that well.....he could be it

    3) oh i only have two

  • ... its not Ligh's reincanation -.-""" that human, who any time writes a name to the note, dont go to the hell or to the heaven. Yagami Light was disappear wen he die....

  • @MrEgoblue no light went to the world of nothingness....which they told in episode 37.

  • @animepro100 Doesn't everyone go to Mu though, at least according to the manga.

  • @MrEgoblue Yes, but the Shinigammi relm is neither nor hell

  • if light is a death god, that means his arch enemy L is also a shinigami.

  • If he did turn into a shinigami, then wouldn't that be an advatage to light becasue then he could continue being kira without being caught. (might be wrong haven't seen alll episodes)

    so he would probably reincarnated without having any memory of who he is.

  • Well at the end of the manga it goes back at what Ryuk said to light about a person using a death note not going to heaven or hell. Then it finally tells you what light said in response to that. He said oh I already know that. That's because there is no heaven or hell right Ryuk. He says yep that when all humans die they go to nothingness so yeah. Sry for the long comment:)

  • Light is cutter !! xD

  • There is a new scene involving Light Yagami gloating over a grave of his enemy L Lawliet. anybody know were it is (heard about it on DN wiki)

  • i think it is

  • interesting theory. since all we know is that light "can't go to heaven nor hell" because he used the death note, maybe he became a shinigami. they never tell you where shinigami come from, i believe. there is another theory that "can't go to heaven nor hell" is kind of a joke, because there isn't a heaven or a hell for anyone anyway.

    makes you wonder. do ray penber and misa turn into shinigami as well?

  • That is not Light you fucking idiot.

  • @shaneymane15 people are entitled to debate this. If you disagree, than say that without being a dick.

  • is that meant to be Shinigami-Light, if it is it needs a new name cause light isn't really a god-of-death name

    and yes it could be his reinarnation

  • Isn't that a character from Murder Princess? It looks like it could be...

  • watch?v=WjFY_fAAowU

    this is the true ending

  • Quite possible.

  • What?! We never know the ending?!

  • its very likely because if you recall a human who has used the death note can neither go to heaven nor hell which when you think about it that implies that he turns into a shinigami when he dies

  • i really dont understand why all of you people are making such a big fuss over whether or not he is a shinigami, because either way the anime and manga are OVER... so it doesnt matter whether you think one way or another because we will never find out. damn

  • @IncarnateOfZero

    Simple. Same reason people flail and rant about the idea of Matt and Mello being a pairing. It's curiosity.

  • Light definently should've been reincarnated into a Shinigami. I mean his soul was way too powerful to just die the way he did.

  • Don't you remember what Ryuk said? "Those who use the Death Note can go to neither Heaven nor Hell." I believe this is indeed Light as a Shinigami as it makes perfect sense. I mean something has to happen to their soul when they die, and this makes sense. Refer to the line, "we don't know where we came from" said by Ryuk. This unnamed Shinigami can't remember his life prior to being a Shinigami. I believe that is what Ryuk meant by that line.

  • But isn't that Shinigami Zellogi? I have the Death Note How to Read 13 and under File 10 in the Complete Shinigami File (page 50) it has him (he may be another Shinigami, though) and it says nothing about Light being reincarnated

  • i wish

  • IS... possible!

  • This is quite interesting, however, the series ended with light dying because the creator wanted to close the series after L died. As it turns out, L was his and the artist's favorite character, and therefor, wanted the series to end with Light dying the way he did. Now, about the shinigami thing, it COULD happen, but perhaps not. We wont know for sure unless we were to gather the official word. Or maybe the creator simply WANTED us to keep guessing...quite likely, yes? You decide! :3

  • @TheFunnyColours Light could never be a shinigami, think about it... It's mentioned in one of the rules from the death note. "After death, there's MU (nothingness)". You just cannot evolve into a shinigami :D

  • Light went to soul society, meets L and became shinigami

  • @ilabsum41 No he doesn't meet L, he and L have a brief fight until Light locks him away in a cube. (Light: Grimmjow L: Ulquiorra)

  • @ilabsum41 im sorry but light most likely became a hollow and was slain by L. Evil people become hollow and and i dont think i need to explain to u how evil light was lol.

  • @HENASALMAN28 Light wasn't evil, he did the killings with good intentions.

  • @ilabsum41 Hmm but i thought L went to Hueco Mundo and became Ulquiorra.

  • @ilabsum41 AND HIS zanpacto is RYUK

  • @ilabsum41 i think light would have turned into a hollow first lol :P

  • @JannieJam Or rather sent to the gates of hell.

  • @JannieJam YES!!!!!

  • @ilabsum41 What

  • But nothingness can also be the Shigami world

  • this isnt light.. because it is said in the deathnote that if you use it.. your soul will neither go to heaven or hell but in the nothingness, so light cannot be reincarnated cause his soul dissapeared.

  • @liann3ocampo True, but it didn't say anything about the Shinigami realm. What if Shinigami Realm = Nothingness? What if the human user of a Death Note becomes a Shinigami? What if the Unnamed Shinigami is a reincarnation of Light? I mean look at the Shinigami. The coat he wears looks very similar to the one Light was wearing when he died, he tosses an apple to Ryuk similar to Light did, and the Shinigami sports a messenger bag almost identical to the one Light carried in school.

  • @Lizardprinceone1 well, you have a point... I want to belive he is Light too.. but.... IDK, I havent watch all 13 episodes of the relight yet so Im still not sure what to believe.

  • @Lizardprinceone1 if Shinigami Realm = Nothingness, and thats where everyone goes in Death Note, then I guess theres going to be millions of shinigami floating around.

  • @ThatOneGuyYouSaw15 Yeah. But, you would also have to think how many humans used the Death Note. Might not be millions, might just be hundreds of thousands. Plus, we only know of 11 shinigami and like two of them are dead so that would leave 9 shinigami that are alive that we know. This is also counting this unamed shinigami.

  • @Lizardprinceone1 well, there would be billions/trillions of people going there if "everyone goes to the same place when they die", "nothingness = shinigami realm", and "unnamed shinigami = light in 'nothingness'", while also stomping all over the whole "we (shinigami) don't know where we came from, derp" line from ryuk. honestly, one director's half assed attempt at making his anime more interesting just causes one cluster-fuck of debates and conspiracy theories.

  • @ThatOneGuyYouSaw15  That is true.

  • @ThatOneGuyYouSaw15

    Yes, but how many of those Death Note users were as prolific and worthy as Light?

  • @Lunara13 What is this, a religion? Firstly, him being "prolific" and "worthy" is an opinion. Secondly, what difference would that make....at all?

    And really, that side steps the "we don't know where we come from" line from Ryuk.

  • @ThatOneGuyYouSaw15

    For some, it might be XD He's worthy in terms of how many people he's killed, which would give him status amongst the gods of death. And it's a theory. Because Light had qualities that would make him a worthy shinigami, he could bypass nothingness and become one of them, especially since 2 shinigami have turned to dust in the DN timeline. In a sense, he could replace one of them.

  • @Lunara13 Well then, worthiness would be a problem since he actually cares about humans, something that gods of death don't do. Heck, had they stayed that way, those other two would never had died =P

  • @ThatOneGuyYouSaw15

    Rem and Gelus cared about Misa ;) So some do.

  • @pokefan ryuk and light had a deal when light was ment to die itd go in ryuks deathnote ryuk didnt want to wait so he just did it

  • why did ryuk kill light?

  • I think the goggles makes it look more like Matt then it does Light, just saying ^^

  • @killthatracist there are deathnote films?

  • @jesustheangryatheist 3. the deathnote live action movie part 1 & 2, and L changes the world.

  • @funkid220 epic are they on youtube or will I have to spend hours letting them buffer on my ps3?

  • @jesustheangryatheist gotta let them buffer sry.

  • Light = Kira = Awesome!

  • Fucking stupid.

  • I knew vaguely about what the ending was from spoilers, but it still shocked me. It's wasn't AS good as I expected, but I was expecting a lot, really. Shame on me. Loads of people hated it, but I loved that Near was the one who proved him Kira and that Matsuda, though illegally, shot him. This whole Light is a Shinigami thing is really interesting.

  • This reaffirms what Ryuk said about humans who've used the Note being banished from heaven and hell. Although Ryuk said he'd be the one to write Light's name in the Death Note, that's not to say it would kill him, he could have crossed it out, the rules state if crossed out, the person lives. Also, Ryuk said he'd write Light's name in it WHEN he died, whereas really, Ryuk wrote his name in it and AS A RESULT he died. Maybe he was dying of blood loss from when Matsuda shot him.

  • @EdibleReuniclus False. You can cross out conditions/time, but once a name is written that person must die.

  • @dckvey Is that right? Hmmm, I think maybe it is. I wasn't sure, maybe I was thinking if one spells the name wrong thrice, the effect is nullified. I better man would Google it, but I'll just take your word for it. That's not the worst of rules, really. Death is inevitable; unless there's a limit to how far ahead the Note lets one plan a death, I think there might be. Again, I won't look it up. The rules confuse me no end, Light almost memorises them, it's astounding, really. For me, anyway.

  • @dckvey Also, I think another note can cancel out the effect of the Note which is used to plan the death. But again, not sure. Perhaps you can confirm that....or not, accordingly.

  • it accually looks kinda like Matt cause of the goggles on is forhead.................but it could be light u never no

  • La 2da temporada salio despues de 4 años..aun tengo espranzas :3

  • I have an idea for a Deathnote Fanfic.....

  • Personally I do believe that Shimigami is Light, far to many similarities (check Death Note Wiki for a list) but as far as a 3rd season goes, absolutley no way. The creators ended it very well, and with Light as the Shimigami is more of an ironic jab at his character than a potential spin off plot change

  • Man i got pissed at th elast episode.... i always was on Light's side and i dont give any fuck what other people say but in my eyes, he won... and maybe there may be no 3rd Season, but at the end Light won! And lets hope that there will be a 3rd season where Light is a shinigami and takes revenge on Near and Matsuda -_-... those two spoiled the whole damn Anime -.-

  • this means that the creator wants to make more...but...he...isn't?

    I think another season would be great if light's a shinigami now =]

  • Go Light!!!!

  • also if u recall ryuk also calls him light once n says BACK THEN light didn't use to be a god

  • There's a 50 50 chance that that's light because of reasons 1 has the demonic red eyes that light had when he lived 2 wears a brow jacket like light did when he lived 3 light had a very demonic smile just like this shinigami

  • yes.

  • no because human and shinigami are totally different beings. plus you see that shinigami in the first episode...

  • @taylorgoff235 no. no you can't.

  • @taylorgoff235 No one but the shinigami king knows how shingamis are born, so one can't say for certain, and where do you see him, he is in that big group of them in the opening shot of Ryuk overlooking the field, or do they do a close up on him?

  • Looks more like matt with the goggles...

  • how human can become shinigami? no...

  • i really wish light is this shinigami and then he shows himself to near and he has a "oh my god im screwed" look on his face,that would be priceless

  • I think that Shinigami is light

    - Ryuk says to Light that those who use the death note wont find hell or heaven.

    - This shinigami Gives Ryuk an apple, and throws it the same way Raito did.

    - He is most human-like Shinigami.

    - He is wearing the jacket and college bag Light used to wear.

  • Yes that coule be him. I often thought that maybe shinigami are the reincarnations of those who have used the Death Note. Because if you read Death Note #13 the creator said " We are not sure how shinigami come into existense." and in a previous volume the rules for the notebook said "shingami cannot reproduce or have sex." So, it's a definet possibility that people who use Death Note become shinigami after they die. Just without their memories from when they were alive

  • Thats Not Light Thats Kara dude ...the guy who is in kara if u watched but he died Lol

  • yes

    

  • OH MY GOSH I didn't realize I had the right to decide for myself.

  • yagami backwards is im a gay...XD

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  • @Pentagon1337

    what do you mean Light isn't human, the Death Note rule is that any human who use's the Death Note cant go to heaven or hell they go to nothingness, to me the shinigami world does seem pretty empty to me kind of like nothingness x

  • If you read the manga Light is a god of death when his god of death kills him.

  • this is just another shinigami who, like Ryuk has become bored of the shinigami world and wished to ask Ryuk about what fun he had on the human world in exchange for a "lousy" apple

    in order to know weather he should go down to the human world himself or not

  • You have to understand, it is not confirmed. It is highly speculated.

    And it does seem a lot like Light. But still.

  • @MrBunnsy0 The thing is thee shingami had to have some significance.

  • @Brevincampbell12 True. It is highly likely it is Light, but I think the creators deliberately left it open so that everybody could make their own decisions on it I suppose. They did that with a lot of things in the series, like whether L has Asperger's Syndrome or not.

  • @KiWiCrappy well, they might have some memories, because...look at my other comment. oh and the manga "kira wins" ending puts Kira on a quest to find the shinigami king and trick him into getting eternal life (which may explain him being a shinigami) all the while, he experiences all of the deaths he has ever caused. L fans might like it.

  • well it's pretty obvious.....i mean whoever uses the notebook can't go to heaven or hell...the only thing left is the shinigami realm

  • @X5Exotic l gotta say, if you read the manga, ryuk will say that death is infact equal to everyone, noone will go to heaven nor hell, they will all go to the nothingness. This is also a rule in the notebook.

  • @Pentagon1337

    That's only for humans who use the Death Note.

  • @SchwartzBruder30 And Light isnt a human?..

    Ergo: He's in the nothingness.

  • @Pentagon1337

    I never said Light wasn't human. The whole "not going to heaven or hell" applies to humans that have used the Death Note. The reasoning for that might be that if a human uses a Death Note, then they are essentially "recruited" as a new Shinigami since God would have more than likely rejected that human's passage into heaven. Not sure about Satan.

  • @SchwartzBruder30 Such things don't occur in Death Note. For the rules of manga, if it doesn't occur, it didn't happen. Ergo: Light = human, he used death note, he goes to nothingness.

    The end.

  • @Pentagon1337 is it possible that the shinigami world counts as the nothingness place, because the shinigami think their world is sooooooo boring etc, am i wrong or could i have a new theory? :D

  • if u pay attention in the last ep it says that humans go to MU (or i think humans who use the note book)

  • @thelaughingPUB no every normal person goes to MU...i think mu can be both heaven and hell...notebook users though go to the shinigami world

  • where can i actually see light as a shinigami in the anime? please answer as fast as possible

  • @rymaster07 you'll need to watch the relight edition of the anime, its the last episode in which you can see light as a shinigami.

  • @Arkonov thanks

  • Is this fake? I get the gut feeling it's from another anime. Other than that... THE SHINIGAMI WEARS GOGGLES! (In heaven) Mello: "Where the hell is Matt?! Wait, hell *bad pun* I said hell... Nah, he's too awesome."

  • @werwervty nope its on the special dvd of deathnote

  • Yeaa Its Light, His Face Is Kinda There For Me To Identify Thats Him And The Suit And The Bag Just Gives It Away.......

  • if anyone has watched the 2 anime movies after the series, then u all wud know that yes that is Light as a Shinigami

  • i dont kno but it looks bad ass

  • I heard that if you die using the deathnote you go to nothingness

  • Didn't this Shinijami show up in the anime before this all happened? There's a scene in the Shinijami world where a few of them are together and that one appears. The one with goggles on his head and Light was still VERY much alive at that point I believe because if memory serves correctly its before Ryuk leaves to the human world. But I could be mistaken it's been a long time since I watched Death Note, so I apologize :)

  • @NekoSeiSei Unless that's the begining before Ryuk tells the story *scratches head* like I said I don't remember too much so, sorry if I made a mistake :D

  • *As in the people who use the Death Note.

  • Is that why they can't go to heaven or hell? They go to the Shingami relm? In that case Light....Misa is waiting for you xD

  • I had this theory that Shinigami were once humans who were like mass-murderers or something, but then I realised that would be practically impossible with Death Gods like Rem and Gelus :B

  • Near and Matsuda would be scared shitless seeing Light like this. Light will take revenge on those two and he will be satisfied. But before that, he has to drop a deathnote on matsuda and near, explain how did he became a shinigami [I wonder how is it possible] and those two idiots will be SO scared shitless that their screams could be heard as Light killed and spilled their blood at the scene of murder.

  • Well techically if that IS Light then hasen't he won? He can't die, unless he does the same thing that rem did, so couldn't he go to the human world and act as kira in his Shinigami form?

    Unless when a human turns into a Shinigami they loose their memories.

  • @KiWiCrappy yup they lose their memories

  • Okay, here is what I think.

    Ryuk says that any human who has used the death note can never go to heaven or to hell.

    But the Shinigami Realm is not heaven or hell.

    Supposing that Shinigami cant reproduce and the fact that Shinigami can live on forever, then people who have used the Death Note, when they die they will go to the world BETWEEN heaven and hell... the Shinigami Realm. therefore Light may be a Shinigami now after all!!! (But there's no way of telling if he lost his memories...)

  • @10xana He still had his memories because in the catual oneshot of the anime ending (saw it on youtube) He goes to ryuk to hear the Kira story, then leaves before the story ends (presumably for the human world to start a new "Kira cycle") he also gives Ryuk a shinigami apple without asking if he wanted it (he already knew he likes apples) and he is most likely Light because of all the refrences (his outfit, he walks up stairs to find ryuk, his eyes, his hair, and his smile) but the manga version

  • chocolove797 U R WRONG ! that was definetely Yagami Light as a shinigami and as one of the guys coments below i saw he said mby he doesnt remember being human

    BUT THT DEFINETEY WAS YAGAMI LIGHT AS SHINIGAMI !!!

    RYUUK SAYS AT THE END

    ''Isn't that right? Light...''

    mby thats why Ryuuk said at beginng ''shinigami dont even know why they exist''

    its mby cuz most of them were human before becoming shinigami and thats why they dont know why they exist.. Ineresting story :) i wished it continued..

  • they should make a new series were someone else finds the deathnote and the shinigami who dropped it would be the sinigami form of light yagami :D

  • @Gh0stz716 Which means if light somehow MANAGED to reclaim his human memories in the real world, then, he would be able to take revenge on those who killed him in the first place! Then, he would give advice to the new user on how he/she should use the deathnote properly and not get himself/herself k-i-l-l-e-d. In the end, Light and the 'New Kira' will win.

  • @Akrylwolf  Light reborn as a shinigami, killing Near and the entire task force, that sounds so evil.......I like it!!!

  • I though Raito came back to life was my idea on my newest fanfic fist O_O

    I kinda wrote about Raito was chosen by the King of Death and became the soon-to-be shinigami. He has to work hard in killing with his own Death Note and given body under Ryuk's watch until the King decided he's worthy of being a shinigami, in the mean time, he plays with Ryuuzaki's mind, who isn't dead yet cuz Rem failed killing him (and lol he had a temporary dead cuz the sugar in his blood kicked in XD). Pretty cool ha?

  • @Sarukothalord22 the problem is L is already buried at a cemetery so won't that make him a zombie?

  • @Leonknight23 Nope? The one in the cemetery is a dead gorilla ~ Only Matsuda knows the truth, but he doesn't have much screentime so we didn't know~ ^^ Ryuuzaki woke up 3 hours after his "death" and moved in Matsuda's house! After Raito start his training Ryuuzaki contacted FBI and work as "L's secret agen" (Near's dead). LOL that's kinda fucked up! XD