Immunity before the fact, for violation of the Articles Pertaining to the Conduct of War on Land and violation of the Articles Pertaining to the Treatment of Prisoners of War. These crazy WHORE lawyers are able and DO, justify ANTHING to please their banker masters.
I'm an Obama Democrat, but what Lindsey Graham said, and I mean every word, is true. Problem is, his own Administration, Gonzales, Addington, Yoo, Cheney, Rumsfeld, and others, with the Unitary Presidency Theory that the President can authorize anything he wants (with Bybee and Yoo agreeing by penning that the new definition of torture), and exporting torture to Gitmo and Iraq, I'm not so sure he realizes that talking about being honorable is one thing. Doing it is quite another. We didn't.
Graham is a fool. By his own words 2:02 he says that the taliban butcher our people. This isn't a state run military versus another state military. These are non-affiliated terrorists. I would have asked Graham when we can expect some type of POW exchange with the taliban. The Constitution is not a suicide pact.
@Nazgul001 He is a whore, of the mass murdering Debt Syndicate. The Hague & Geneva Conventions are not about who our enemy may be, it is about who WE are as a civilized nation, with an eye to who we will be in the future after a conflict or war resolves itself.
No...American's get summary executions if caught by the taliban. In COMPLETE violation of the Second Additional Protocol of the Geneva Conventions (1977). Graham is a lawyer...don't call one when the crap hits the fan...call a Marine.
@Nazgul001 If/when Taliban performs a War Crime, the Articles possess a response & remedy. We are War Criminal right out of the gate, by excluding ourselves from the Geneva & Hague Conventions.
I thought we weren't obligated by the Geneva conventions? What about the Hague conventions? Those are the ones that regard "treatment of prisoners of war" I believe.
how did this guy get so influenceal with view like morality i thort peolpe like him wer tried as witches in that country. good luck man ur the first moral american politiction iv ever herd of and i hope you NOT are asasenated for trason
if america wants to lead the world then they should start with leading by morality eg making rules wer CIA's are not alowed to tourter criminals by LAW. this protects their agents as they carnt be tried for somthing they havent done. TRI all criminals fiarly and listen to him, then the world will start t respect u , prove ur better then the tailiban, we need proof
How can the GOP stand to have GWB as their figurehead when there are genuinely moral Americans like this guy in 'the ranks' ? Impressive and, quite frankly, moving.
Torture is just immoral and completely wrong and like any thing that is wrong people will try to justify it and say it is okay, like a teenager steeling from a department store and saying it won't hurt the corporation.
And to this notion that we have never faced an enemy like the terrorists today, what about the Japanese camacazy in WWII and thier torture? This isn't a political issue, it's a moral one.
Agents can never be prosecuted for War Crimes, and never lose anything. There is no jurisdiction greater than US courts and would never hand them over. Every country can & does define these obligations whenever necessary. He is speaking of the nation-state, of rational individuals, and the terrorists are not part of this argument and should not be considered protected by the Geneva Convention. The Iranians can and would do what it wanted and not give a moment's thought to the Geneva Convention.
The fuck-head gave in to the right wing power base. Its now legal to torture prisoners of war. Kudos to the right wing. I HATE BUSH!!!! Some one should pull the hairs off of his nuts.
This is carte blanch for conducting War Crimes;
Immunity before the fact, for violation of the Articles Pertaining to the Conduct of War on Land and violation of the Articles Pertaining to the Treatment of Prisoners of War. These crazy WHORE lawyers are able and DO, justify ANTHING to please their banker masters.
centurion180ad 1 year ago
I'm an Obama Democrat, but what Lindsey Graham said, and I mean every word, is true. Problem is, his own Administration, Gonzales, Addington, Yoo, Cheney, Rumsfeld, and others, with the Unitary Presidency Theory that the President can authorize anything he wants (with Bybee and Yoo agreeing by penning that the new definition of torture), and exporting torture to Gitmo and Iraq, I'm not so sure he realizes that talking about being honorable is one thing. Doing it is quite another. We didn't.
medartist01 2 years ago
Graham is a fool. By his own words 2:02 he says that the taliban butcher our people. This isn't a state run military versus another state military. These are non-affiliated terrorists. I would have asked Graham when we can expect some type of POW exchange with the taliban. The Constitution is not a suicide pact.
Nazgul001 2 years ago
@Nazgul001 He is a whore, of the mass murdering Debt Syndicate. The Hague & Geneva Conventions are not about who our enemy may be, it is about who WE are as a civilized nation, with an eye to who we will be in the future after a conflict or war resolves itself.
centurion180ad 1 year ago
O: nothing wrong with his reasoning excpet that he is setting the stage for Americans to be tortured if captured.
LukAndC2 2 years ago
No...American's get summary executions if caught by the taliban. In COMPLETE violation of the Second Additional Protocol of the Geneva Conventions (1977). Graham is a lawyer...don't call one when the crap hits the fan...call a Marine.
Nazgul001 2 years ago
@Nazgul001 If/when Taliban performs a War Crime, the Articles possess a response & remedy. We are War Criminal right out of the gate, by excluding ourselves from the Geneva & Hague Conventions.
centurion180ad 1 year ago
Amen! loved the last bit
casspezz 2 years ago
Thank you Sen. Graham for standing up for what is right even when it's not popular.
wonderwendy1968 2 years ago
Graham you dont have to worry, you wont be in your job next week, by by.
sommeflame34 3 years ago
are you sure about that honey?
anysortaviolence 3 years ago
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This guy is a shoe tapper, you'll find him in the next stall by Larry Craig. Hey Lindsey get out of the closet you pole smoker.
nadja019 3 years ago
I thought we weren't obligated by the Geneva conventions? What about the Hague conventions? Those are the ones that regard "treatment of prisoners of war" I believe.
Are we obligated by those?
T850CSM101a1676 3 years ago
The US ratified all Geneva Conventions and Protocols, under Article Six of the US Constitution. They are part of "the supreme law of the land."
Redcarpet01 2 years ago
Lindsey Graham is so cute!!
I love his voice!!
christy340 3 years ago 3
Lindsey Graham is one of the only politicians
I believe is a sensible person.
christy340 3 years ago 3
how did this guy get so influenceal with view like morality i thort peolpe like him wer tried as witches in that country. good luck man ur the first moral american politiction iv ever herd of and i hope you NOT are asasenated for trason
burkesean2890 3 years ago
if america wants to lead the world then they should start with leading by morality eg making rules wer CIA's are not alowed to tourter criminals by LAW. this protects their agents as they carnt be tried for somthing they havent done. TRI all criminals fiarly and listen to him, then the world will start t respect u , prove ur better then the tailiban, we need proof
burkesean2890 3 years ago
America would be better with only right-wing politicians
COCOPUFF093 4 years ago
A sensible right wing American! I can't believe it!
MarcusSluiman 4 years ago
Republicans should have every bone in their body broken and left for the piles of shit they are.
thasleez 4 years ago
Do you like taxes? If your answer is no, then you're a hypocritical shit. If your answer is yes, then screw you.
COCOPUFF093 4 years ago
How can the GOP stand to have GWB as their figurehead when there are genuinely moral Americans like this guy in 'the ranks' ? Impressive and, quite frankly, moving.
utdgrant 5 years ago
im impressed with him
private87 5 years ago
I Republican with a heart God Damn there is hope!
kinged8g 5 years ago
Torture is just immoral and completely wrong and like any thing that is wrong people will try to justify it and say it is okay, like a teenager steeling from a department store and saying it won't hurt the corporation.
And to this notion that we have never faced an enemy like the terrorists today, what about the Japanese camacazy in WWII and thier torture? This isn't a political issue, it's a moral one.
waakow 5 years ago
Agents can never be prosecuted for War Crimes, and never lose anything. There is no jurisdiction greater than US courts and would never hand them over. Every country can & does define these obligations whenever necessary. He is speaking of the nation-state, of rational individuals, and the terrorists are not part of this argument and should not be considered protected by the Geneva Convention. The Iranians can and would do what it wanted and not give a moment's thought to the Geneva Convention.
kyushin 5 years ago
The fuck-head gave in to the right wing power base. Its now legal to torture prisoners of war. Kudos to the right wing. I HATE BUSH!!!! Some one should pull the hairs off of his nuts.
llamamarch 5 years ago
damn right!
jankvb 5 years ago