@crazedNdiffused A transition is already happening, and has been for at least 30 some odd years, but it isn't to socialism dude; that would be impossible considering how The us has slid further and further to the right. ~Rather, the US is going deeper and deeper into the hands of capricious corporate interests that can outright buy politicians. Shit, Romney is doing it right now and the man is a political weather-vane.~
What's amazing about this woman is she doesn't even understand basic birthright citizenship in the United States. She's repeatedly stated that 'both parents' have to be american citizens for their offspring to run for President. This is patently false.
The Zionists put Obama, (America's 1st Black Man) as President of the "AMERICAN CORPORATION (Stealthily established in 1871,) for one reason. When the "Hidden from Public Scrutiny Parasites" finally decide to Implode the American Economy, They will, through their Control of the Mass Media start using all their Typical Propaganda and LIES and orchestrated violence to start Racism which America has never seen before by "Blaming" a "Black-Man! for ALL American's Problems! "Wake-UP" to he TRUTH!
Lol, he said the President couldn't prove it in no way? He can release his REAL birth certificate. I can prove I was born here easily. Just some racist black dude spreading hate.
@KingDavid478, a conspiracy is simply when 2 or more people engage in a criminal activity; while a theory simply involves what governs a particular outcome. So, in "game theory", "the Lottery" works like this... ["IF" one buys a ticket, one has 1 in 14 million chances of winning.] That's the theory. However the moment you buy a ticket theory become "PROBABILITY"... as the EVIDENCE of your TICKET PROVES your PARTICIPATION.
So, where there is a SCINTILLA of EVIDENCE, we have PROBABILITY.
@assistme in order to prove this, you need to explain the motivation for all relevant actors. I have yet to hear why the DNC and Hawaii (let alone the FBI, CIA, and NSA) would participate.
So while yes their is a possibility of it being true, I'd say that it's about as likely as you having been conceived in the back seat of a clown car.
@assistme Except that in late 2007, the DNC was behind hillary and the old guard was supporting her since she seemed the most electable based on the charisma/expierience scale. Further, There were plenty of old favors that were still owed to the clintons by the party.
If there had been any question by late december of obama's validacy he would have been out on his ass before the primary even started.
@gaddez Hawaii has been a back door to fraudulent citizenship for many years.Was also a hotbed of communist demonstration and activity. I would cut to the chase and simply demand to see the passport Obama used to travel to Pakistan with a Pakistani friend while a student and when Pakistan was on the US no travel list.
Obama traveled to Pakistan in 1981. If there was a "US no travel list", please feel free to explain why there was an article in the NYTimes travel section on June 14, 1981 outlining hotels, transportation and restaurants for people traveling to Lahore Pakistan?
@arrrogantlyignorant Should have researched it before mimicking it. Guess i should thank you for the info. I believe Obama is a fraud, possibly Muslim, I don't believe racist. But i like they way you discredited my comment with out names and slander, forcing me to research.
@arrrogantlyignorant "He has said he is Christian, but even if he was a Muslim, the Bill of Rights provides for freedom of religion."
He can practice what he wants and we have a right to reject anyone because we do not like their practice. Not talking laws but our right to know and decide. what do you think of the profiles of his Czars?
@arrrogantlyignorant Got me again. Would be too tedious to show why i think that. i did propose it to my conservative buds, one wondered how I could have not have already known that. Best I can do here. Consider how Mexicans have a back door here and a license to engage in identity fraud on the home front as an example that it does happen.
@arrrogantlyignorant Probably should clarify. I reject both party's considering them opposite ends of the same shit stick. Always a mistake to go after the person rather than the issues and i never learn. Obama is a culmination of what is wrong but being the sitting president he gets all the glory as well as the condemnation. If you see no problem with the way Obama has handled things, what he supports and the people he appoints, I have no argument here.
McCain said it was his lifelong dream to become President. GW Bush/Cheney fully supported him to win. Until Jan 20, 2009, they also controlled the CIA, FBI, NSC, Dept of Homeland Security, Secret Service.. etc etc etc...
Do you honestly think that Bush Jr would've simply handed over the country to some foreigner that they never checked?
@arrrogantlyignorant Excellent point.Bill Ayers admits to belonging to a terrorist group. Is he welcomed in academia? Maxine Waters openly threatens to nationalize American businesses and called Repubs Demons Pete Stark openly said the Federal Government can do pretty much anything it wants The Black Caucus was the driving force behind the policy that destroyed the housing market and Bush as well. Clinton paved the way and both partys prospered right up to the last minute
@gaddez Socialist material you are and Socialism is not a fixed state or ideology.You tell fire in a theater, shout fighting words or preach to the young an ideology that is 100% antagonistic to our Constitution and i would prosecute you. I support having political prisoners. They used to be called subversives or traitors. Socialist, Marxuist or Communists are free to openly be such but cannot hold office. Once he takes the oath he is technically a subversive.
@gaddez Can be said about anyone for any reason. Am talking about people that take an oath to uphold the Constitution and gain our trust. Even so uniting oppressed workers or a large wronged group against a government is the name of the revolutionary game. It is the Marxist MO. The Poles managed it without being usurped by Marxist because they united against fighting the Marxist robbing their country. When we are no longer a wealthy nation our diverse stupidity will be exposed.
@gaddez I am in that stupid part of You Tube. You can at least try to frame argument in your favor before asking me address your ignorance. Hint: Try reading the Constitution and goggling the Amendments and then find out what Socialism isn't and Marxism is, and then stick your head in the toilet and flush. The answers are down there keep looking and don't cheat by holding your breath.
@gaddez What will isay here in 250 letters and no links. I don't buy that right wing crap either that all people yearn to be free. You can't figure that when a critical mass is employed by, or dependent upon the State and Federal governments we will by default be socialist. Socialism is a transition not ideology. Moscow called it a transition to Communism. Others have a different name same ideological end game.You are uneucated in the merits of freedom. Public school? Leftist professors?
@crazedNdiffused A transition is already happening, and has been for at least 30 some odd years, but it isn't to socialism dude; that would be impossible considering how The us has slid further and further to the right. Rather, the US is going deeper and deeper into the hands of capricious corporate interests that can outright buy politicians. Shit, Romney is doing it right now and the man is a political weather-vane.
@gaddez Only now sliding to the right to me it is not even moderate ye Equation is simple Easy street liberals ruleTough times people lean right If we stayed in the middle no matter what we could maintain even keel That Constitution is only thing saving us And we are an anchor of Europe. When are not they will go back to there roots an anything goes.Germany is holding it all together and they have a right wing faction, patriotism, an immigration problem and a good memory.
@gaddez "Dare I ask what you are scaling against? Because the US is one of the most right leaning nations on earth."
That is so far offt he wall i wouldn't know where to begin. I would ask who the hell taught you that but i already know. My rhetoric supports the political ideology of freedom that we have institutionalized and refined over time. Not the shit bags that trash and violate it. Communism, fascism, oligarchy=left. Republic=moderate, Anarchy=right.
You want a revolution study the Russian Revolution. Good case history of how things go. Anarchy brings it down, house cleaning and a honeymoon of hope and change, a provisional government set up, is has no working model other than the shit it just overthrew and pisses people off, power plays and things get ugly and chaotic again Comes the tyrant. Hows that Arab spring working out Not hard to guess who is behind it and what kind of house cleaning occurs even if we had no media.
@gaddez Are really unaware what is going on. You above mention the transition. What is 'transition' in the context of governance when it is unconstitutional equate to. You think a right wing revolution would open the border flood us with third world refugees and growing subcultures form every third world shit hole nation in crisis. I think your just fucking with me i dont read you an idiot.
@crazedNdiffused I suggest you look up "transition" and "revolution" in the dictionary before you call anyone an idiot, since one doesn't by default imply the other. Further, you seem desperate to ignore what I actually wrote. Try again, then come back and post.
@gaddez If you think Greece is the only problem you need to do some reading. Their problem is left wing socialism and being Statistics.You find it odd they DEMAND a bail out? You think they are unique? They are the weakest, maybe have the most employed by their government that produces nada and devised more entitlements in anticipation of a bailout to appease the disgruntled special interest. Unbelievable! Yet each American owes far more than the individual Greek.
@assistme The best answer Ive ever heard, but still in disagreement. I didnt vote on that poll so there is no probabilty that ALL Americans feel this way. You see what Im saying? I understand completely what you mean. Its true to a certain extent I would say as well. Good Job answering like a human and not a child. Thanks.
Just like any conspiracy theorists, there is no point even having a discussion with you. It doesn't matter how much evidence you're presented with, that evidence just becomes another layer of the conspiracy. There could be video evidence of Obama popping out of his mother on the steps of the Honolulu City Hall with an American flag in his hand, and you folks would yell "PHOTOSHOPPED!". Seriously. You're a fucking waste of perfectly good carbon.
Orly is correct. obama is a homosexual, illegal, muslim darkie who they named sotoro, then barack and shipped him to Hawaii, then Chicago, where he became a senator. He is a lying fraud who must be imprisoned, then deported.
@Petekiv Orly and the birthers are a bunch of conspiracy lunatics, she is the illegal one, where is her bc? She is a lunatic and should be in a padded room.
That black guy sure seems like he would defend Israel to his death. I wonder what screw got knocked loose in his pea-brain? Oh wait, he's just another typical racist in fine clothes. Sure would be nice if I could be as racist without being harassed as a result. Oh wait, I wouldn't use that as an excuse for anything. Silly me! I totally forgot that I'm not a coward. Derp...
The president needs to just be like.. oh snaps... that photo-shopped birth certificate got figured out by people who can pick apart the bullshit... damn.
whoever made that certificate lol made 3-4 layers on that page.
@hcon15 You're free to move to any of the many numerous countries out there, you know. Be a true patriot, take a stand, and live elsewhere. I hear Canada is nice...
@newdayz1000 Orly a hero? She is a lunatic and the judges know that. She has an online law course, not accredited. She even told Lucas Smith and other guy to lie under oath, and was also fined with $20K for filing frivolous suits. Look it up! She is just a lunatic pushing a political agenda and all her lawsuits have been dumped. People wake up! Obama is your eligible president!
if anyyone alleges that "they" are not good enough to control the Hawaii situation may i remind you of the kennedy assasination cover up . this current situation is simple by comparison
When the legitimacs learn admit that there is solid ground for further investigation, we can indeed peer into this, nd see the truth, but they put their fingers in there ears, and start humming, not wanting to see information.........which means they may just not want ot deal with the reality, the very possible reality Obama does not qualify.
So now that the long form was released, what do birthers do? Claim the long form is fake too. Taitz knows she's lying but she's collected thousands of dollars from misguided and frightened whites. No one has asked her to explain where ALL that money went.
@sergeantnorider Number of experts claim it a forgery. No expert has validated it and no one accusing him is allowed to see the real one that's all i know and I have common sense. Really hard for you to believe he is a fucking radical idiot because he's the first black president. Are you reading about the jobs he is throwing away. Are you aware that our allies think he's moron and our enemies are laughing at us.Where the hell do you read? Agree Taitz is neurotic.
@crazedNdiffused No "experts" have claimed anything. First off, none of these so-called 'experts' have even seen the document, let alone examined it. They are claiming they have proof from looking a a jpeg of the BC. Second, the State of Hawaii has validated it, which trumps people like copy machine salesman Vogt and the one who claims he has 14 FBI experts backing him up but can't name them.Stop swallowing the Birther bullshit and accept the facts.
@tgear77 you call them birther, but racism is what it is an thats been going on for years
if God came down an told the evil racist birther obama was born in Hawaii, they call God a liar an say lets wait around for real God to come down an tell the turth
BO has used the system to become a multi millionaire with help, major help of the msm. Being president of this country is a game to him now. He has no idea how to govern this great country, that’s why he leaves everyting to someone else to figure out. Ever noticed BO never gets out in front of any issue? He hides til the result is in, BO & the msm have a grand time pointing fingers at all but themselves. A minor success then he spends weeks slapping BO on the back.
I'm American, i wasn't included on that VOTE POLE?. How can he implied ALL OF AMERICANS?. I say base on what that lady indicated Obama is not American... where's my VOTE on that?
CNN is full of shit, main stream media run by the Obama administration.
This lady had more credible proof on Obama NOT being an American appose to those morons ranting about what Obama stated ''I'm American''. Hey foreigners! come to America and state I'M AMERICAN! then you could run for president & fuck our country
@martinez418 Well you were not included in on the poll because it's such a minute amount from each district that the chances of a "retarded" fellow like yourself to get picked to vote on a poll is slim to none.
@Parknutzz You said and i quote: ''Well you were not included in on the poll because it's such a minute amount from each district that the chances of a "retarded" fellow like yourself etc?''... OK stupid, you would really need to read what you wrote before you call someone on you tube a ''RETARD''... you dumb troll. Please fix your incoherent form of butchered English before you place it in writing, OK stupid?. Anyhow stupid, Their numbers are incorrect.
@martinez418 "i wasn't included on that VOTE POLE?".......you do know that poles are based off a percentage right? and the lady has enters forged paperwork in court. and she is lying in this video. the Governor stated that he cannot release the bc due to privacy laws.
@noliesundead Percentage of what?... the dude clearly stated ''ALL AMERICANS''. Once again, I'm not included, and so many other Americans. Forged paper work in court? if so she would be in Jail, but she's not... that alone proves is not forged. What's the ''bc?'' anyhow, what goes in court is public information, just go to any achieves department at city hall and you'll find court documentations on your neighbor. For the governor not to release such docs, then there's cover up.
@martinez418 "Percentage of what"...of Americans its done by districts, " the dude clearly stated ''ALL AMERICANS''......you don't know how representative polls are conducted do you?
"Forged paper work in court? if so she would be in Jail"...no just excluded during the evidentiary hearing (as they were) thats why they never showed up in any of her cases.
bc is short for Birth Certificate (only 500 words on utube got to save space)
@noliesundead By districts? where is my vote by this allege district? or where are the other Americans that were not counted for in this district also?. It appears as these district votes are base upon only prognostications rather than a real HUMAN vote. What's an (EVINDETIARY HEARING?) <<Huh?. True cover up as usual by the US government. This lady brought proof on such allegations, or else she would be in jail. 500 words? try the next forum.
@martinez418 where is my vote by this allege district?....this has nothing to do with voting. it is random. and is 10% of every district.
" these district votes are base upon only prognostications rather than a real HUMAN vote"...there done as a survey not a vote.
"What's an (EVINDETIARY HEARING?)"....look it up numb nuts. (but if you have not already you wont so, it's when the defendant and litigate present there evidence before the trial) cont
@martinez418 and the both parties show that what they have is relevant, valid, and gives both sides a chance to challenge it and discover relevant documents, it is one of the 1st things you do in a court case. if it can't get pass here its because it does not cut it.
"This lady brought proof on such allegations"....she has never won a SINGLE CASE. that should tell you her level of expertise. try the next forum.....fine you wanna debate this on justinTV,blogtv, youtube live stream?
@martinez418 " What's an (EVINDETIARY HEARING?) <<Huh?. True cover up as usual".....so because you are ignorant of how the courts work, it must be a cover up? yeah that's logic at work.
@noliesundead Why do you continue to plagiarize?lol. To call others ignorant when you yourself wrote, and i quote:'' evindetiary hearing?'' yes, like i said... huh?. (EVINDENTIARY) is not even a word. So tell us, what's an evidentiary hearing?.
Surveys are not the American vote, but just that...surveys, don't you agree?.
Now you're getting pissed off child, quit your animal type yelping and approach the matter like a human being, not an ANGERED rabid mutt. So what's evindentiary?
@martinez418 EVINDENTIARY is a word...evidentiary: 1 being, relating to, or affording evidence, 2 conducted so that evidence may be presented - (merriam-webster, n.d. para. 1)
is google to hard for you?
"Why do you continue to plagiarize?"....and whose work did i pass off as my own?
"Surveys are not the American vote, but just that...surveys"...and i had to explain that to you.
"you're getting pissed off child"...point it out please. calling you ignorant is not childish it's factual.
@noliesundead You wrote, (EVINDENTIARY) not evidentiary... completely different, don't you agree?. Now you wrote and i quote:''1 being, relating to, or affording evidence, 2 conducted so that evidence may be presented'' you wrote what's written Exactly what's on the Webster's dictionary,lmfao. Look child, to use words you yourself don't know what they mean or EVEN spell is another sign of ignorance & stupidity. Quit ranting child, you're delusional & quite stupid. Webster's? lol
@noliesundead Listen child/troll, you're in here looking to argue, not debate. Quit slandering people just cause you're too stupid. You wrote and i quote: ''and whose work did i pass off as my own?''...'you're upset and very delusional child, quit your senseless stumbling troll, you're obviously enrage. Even your interpretation of the word PLAGIARIZE is incorrect. Nice job using the Dictionary stupid. What a dumb ass troll,lol
You're obviously not bright, but hey, at least you try
@martinez418 "Quit slandering people"....I can't this is written forum, not spoken. slander can only be spoken. And you call me dumb? So will you accept my debate or just keep on with ad hominem?
@noliesundead Child, you're and idiot,lol. You're trying to hard to prove me wrong, but once again you look like a dumb ass,lol. Yes you're (slandering people) child. You can slander people in writing or verbally, that's what you've been doing kiddo, (slandering). You're truly pathetic troll, one laughable troll using a dictionary to translate other peoples words, but then again you're incapable of using a dictionary CORRECTLY to
prove someone wrong,lol. Please do try again child.
@noliesundead Ad hominen? lol. You're definitely trying to hard to sound bright kid,lol you're farce. Now look that up... cause i know you will,lol. Please use it correctly and don't misspell the word, OK troll?.
Obvious how you love using words you yourself don't use in your daily vocabulary,lol but only on keyboard while holding a Webster dictionary in your mother's basement... pathetic.
@martinez418 "lol you're farce"...You mean; you're a farce (grammar not your strong suit either it seems).
"you love using words you yourself don't use in your daily vocabulary,lol but only on keyboard while holding a Webster dictionary in your mother's basement... pathetic"..... you claim i slander you, but then you write that. pot calling the kettle back much?
oh i get it your one of those internet Trolls. well Ma'ma you're going it wrong.
@noliesundead Damn kid/troll.. quit embarrassing yourself,lol. Wrong again, you CAN'T use/say ''you're A farce'' remove the (A) child, where are you getting your education from stupid? oh my bad, yes of course... your mother's basement. Look troll, you're using the words incorrectly and you're unable to translate them properly or use them in coherent English for that matter,lol you're trying to damn hard and failing at it,lol. I call you troll then you repeat what i say,lol idiot.
@noliesundead Are you upset cause i replied to your YELPING right away?,lol. And here i thought you were appreciative... but then again you're a TROLL, makes perfect sense, don't you agree?lol.
Anyhow, I'll take my time in replying to you later... you YELPING troll; after all you're farce... or should i say '' you're a farce?'' lmfao buhahahaha
@noliesundead <<< One dumb troll... loves to repeat the insults you've address to him as his own by using (PLAGIARISM) LOL. Just watch/read how bad he'll stumble once again like always in trying to interpret it's multiple definitions.
Yes, be gentle with the TROLL, he's quite delusional and very stupid.
@noliesundead I'll reply to your YELPING later troll... yes look that word up too, cause i know you will,lol.
Now we know where you get your education from kiddo... you tube/perfect strangers and at your mother's basement while holding a Webster's dictionary. How pathetic.
@martinez418 "what goes in court is public information, just go to any achieves department at city hall and you'll find court documentations on your neighbor"...yes, but only the doc that were aloud in the case.
"For the governor not to release such docs, then there's cover up"........by law he could not. the same would apply if he tried to reveal yours.
Where he was born is really a non-issue. Obamas father WAS NOT an American citizen, FACT. Therefore it doesnt matter if he was born in the middle of the US with a thousand eye witness', he is not a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN and can not hold the position of President. It just proves how corrupt our government is on all sides.
@drdeepstro2u not on Obama but on case's that hold precedent in this matter. us v wong kim ark , perkin v elg, Town of New Hartford v. Town of Canaan, Elk v. Wilkins
@noliesundead you should restudy those cases, none of them are about "natural born" status, us v wong kim ark sets precidence on "naturalized" status, perkin v elg is about children born to 2 naturalized citizens (obamas dad was no citizen at all), Town of New Hartford v. Town of Canaan doesnt dealwith "natural born" statys, and Elk v. Wilkins deals with indians born on a reservation obama is not an indian. Want to try a few more??
@drdeepstro2u " us v wong kim ark sets precidence on "naturalized" status" oh yeah? "A child born in the United States, of parent[s] of Chinese descent...becomes at the time of his birth a citizen of the United States." Naturalization was NEVER mentioned. kids are citizens at birth regardless the parentage. and if you dont have to naturalize you are a Natural born citizen. you want to go READ the case? i can lead you my westlaw account if you want.
@noliesundead you liberals sure are easily confused. Maybe you should read the case again. A simple google search of "supreme court rules on natural born citizen" and you will find that wong kim ark was not considered a "natural born citizen" at best a native born. There is a HUGE difference between the 2.
@drdeepstro2u the SC found WKA to be born a citizen. The SC only recognize TWO types of citizen - Natural or naturalized. now WKA was born a citizen, thus never having to Naturalize, leaving only one option that his status can be.simple logic leaves only 1 choice. (and on a side note the SC see native and natural meaning the SAME THING).
@noliesundead I agree the Sc did find WKA a citizen, I never stated any different, but he is not a "natural born citizen" only a native born citizen. On the basis of the 14th Amendment the majority opinion coined a new definition for “native citizen”, as anyone who was born in the U.S.A., under the jurisdiction of the United States. This is very different from a "natural born" which must be born to 2 US citizens. WKA was a citizen but could never run for the highest office.
@drdeepstro2u "but he is not a "natural born citizen" only a native born citizen" there are only 2 types, by logic he is a NBC. and the SC uses native and natural interchangeably (i can cite this if you want). so they are one in the same. "natural born" which must be born to 2 US citizens"....no where in US law or SC ruling states both parents must be citizens to children born on us soil.
@noliesundead We can keep going back and forth all day, but it doesnt really matter anyway. The constitution is obviously not the law of the land anymore as both sides have done all they can to get around such an inconvenient document. I just hope you are ready for what is coming in the very near future. What our forefathers warned us about is here.
@drdeepstro2u "We can keep going back and forth all day'...we can, but the fact that the SC are the interpreters of the The constitution, ever since the time of the founding of this country(if are forefathers knew things like this would happen UNLESS you do not consider Hamilton a forefather) means that are laws change with the times.
@noliesundead once again the supreme court hasnt ruled on a natural born citizen requirments, and yes some laws change with the times but requirements for President should never change. The constitution is now an irrelevant document to politicians, so it really doesnt matter what was put in place at the birth of our nation. The only way this country will ever go back to the way it was intended is for lots of blood to be spilled in the streets.
@drdeepstro2u "once again the supreme court hasnt ruled on a natural born citizen"..Again they have. if you are born with citizenship you are one, since naturalization is not needed, leaving ONLY NBC status
"The constitution is now an irrelevant document to politicians"....and the citizens will bring it to the SC as they always have since this country started.
now do you have anything to support your assertion? what was that? no? thought so. (and b4 you write something make sure it is valid
@noliesundead Yes you will see the support for my assertion when this tyranical president passes the NDAA written by tyranical congressman and senators that he promised to veto. Im sure you probably support that treasonous piece of legislature
@drdeepstro2u You stated, '' The only way this country will ever go back to the way it was intended is for lots of blood to be spilled in the streets''. Very TRUE. The question is, are you/we... willing to make such change????
i don't know if he was born an american, but it seems to me that they got really offended when she said that he has a stole s.s.# and cut her off and never let her finish,
yea that was not the best choice for them to make, but hey thats what they do
"Once a government is committed to the principle of silencing the voice of opposition, it has only one way to go, and that is down the path of increasingly repressive measures, until it becomes a source of terror to all its citizens and creates a country where everyone lives in fear." --Harry S. Truman
The entire Birther Movement is a joke. When your so-called spokesperson is a raving nutcase with zero credibility like Oily it comes as no surprise at all that the Birthers have no proof to back their claims. Par for the course for these types of bottom dwelling douchebags.Oily should be thrown in Federal prison & forced to pay back the tax money she wasted with her unfounded lawsuits. Fuck off Birthers
I would like to see Obama supporters address the Social Security issue. If Obama has no history nor connection with the State of Connecticut, then it is a valid question to ask why is he using a bogus S.S. number? They should be honest and not demonic the questioner, nor should they side-step this question. I think it should be asked on the campaign trail as well. I might go to one of the events and publicly ask the question myself. It needs to be answered.
@epw0003 Prior to the SSA consolidating its offices in Baltimore in 1979, it was not uncommon for states to offer available SSNs to other states due to supply and demand. Having a CT prefix on his SSN is nothing out of the ordinary. The prefix for my SSN does not belong to the state I was born in either. A simple answer for the simple minds of the Birther movement.
@friendsofjeremy, Name one president other than Barack Obama who has used a stolen S.S. number and occupied the White House. This has nothing to do with ethnicity. Notice how Cornell kept saying she didn't want to accept the truth, when it was he and the the news anchorman that would not and could not answer the S.S. card issue. The fact is the S.S. number Obama is currently using cannot pass an e-verify test. Cornell's position is more emotional and racially biased, while not substantial.
Republicans wonder why they're thought of as racists. Hmmm...maybe because the first black president ever is being accused as foreign born? Idiots.
She says the same would happen to a white candidate? When has it happened? Name one president whose residency and legitimacy has been questioned in such a way.
The only reason McCain had that hearing is because HE ACTUALLY PHYSICALLY WASN'T BORN IN THE USA. Do they understand this?
so basically she just keeps saying "no there is no evidence" no matter how much evidence he's piling up? I mean a notice in the paper back then, a birth announcement, a birth certificate-the same one I have-and that's not enough? Crazy. And 43% of Republicans say prob or deff not? Wow, didn't know people in my party were that stupid.
If all you say is true, then why is Obama fighting so hard to prove he's a Natural Born citizen? Let him go to court and prove us wrong and face all of the allegations. He was a citizen of Kenya, Indonesia and Britain. He can not be considered Natural born which requires 2 citizen parents. He doesn't fit that requirement. If he does let him prove it in court instead of hiding the facts.
The idea that someone would use a fake social security for 30 years is beyond stupid. Fake numbers are for minutes, hours days maybe a week to apply for a loan or credit card. NOT FOR DECADES!! He would have been arrested by now
The thing I don't understand, is why they don't attack Obama on something substantial? Who the fuck cares where he was born? The law is trifle anyway, any foreign power with malicious intent could find heaps of corrupt US citizens to put in the presidential race.
dunno why they are talking about hawaii as he was born in kenya
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"he was born in kenya "
Where exactly is the supporting documentation?
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Farrar, et al. v. Obama
Swensson v Obama
Powell v Obama
Welden v Obama
"..motions to dismiss in the above matters are GRANTED and the above actions are hereby DISMISSED..."
(Hon. Cynthia D. Wright - Fulton County Superior Court - Mar 2, 2012)
Another Friday birther Fail!!!
arrrogantlyignorant 4 days ago
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@crazedNdiffused A transition is already happening, and has been for at least 30 some odd years, but it isn't to socialism dude; that would be impossible considering how The us has slid further and further to the right. ~Rather, the US is going deeper and deeper into the hands of capricious corporate interests that can outright buy politicians. Shit, Romney is doing it right now and the man is a political weather-vane.~
~this part~
gaddez 6 days ago
If nothing else, this bill better have weight in 2012! That's all I have to say!
worstevershow 1 week ago
2/24/12
INDIANA BALLOT COMMISSION to Orly Taitz:
Your "evidence" is 100% HEARSAY, ALL HEARSAY!!!
Orly gets smacked down again.
arrrogantlyignorant 1 week ago
To quote Collin Powell "So what if he was a muslim?"
Americans seriously need to stop demonizing a religion that they don't understand.
gaddez 1 week ago
I believe her but i can't stand hearing that woman argue.
crazedNdiffused 1 week ago
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What's amazing about this woman is she doesn't even understand basic birthright citizenship in the United States. She's repeatedly stated that 'both parents' have to be american citizens for their offspring to run for President. This is patently false.
phuturephunk 2 weeks ago
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Taitz is such a fraud..but that's the thing, I don't think its actually fraud by her state of mind because she's absolutely fucking nuts.
phuturephunk 2 weeks ago
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The Zionists put Obama, (America's 1st Black Man) as President of the "AMERICAN CORPORATION (Stealthily established in 1871,) for one reason. When the "Hidden from Public Scrutiny Parasites" finally decide to Implode the American Economy, They will, through their Control of the Mass Media start using all their Typical Propaganda and LIES and orchestrated violence to start Racism which America has never seen before by "Blaming" a "Black-Man! for ALL American's Problems! "Wake-UP" to he TRUTH!
einrib4truth 2 weeks ago
Lol, he said the President couldn't prove it in no way? He can release his REAL birth certificate. I can prove I was born here easily. Just some racist black dude spreading hate.
KingDavid478 3 weeks ago
All of Americans? I didn't vote on that poll, but you don't do conspiracy theories? Lol.
KingDavid478 3 weeks ago
@KingDavid478, a conspiracy is simply when 2 or more people engage in a criminal activity; while a theory simply involves what governs a particular outcome. So, in "game theory", "the Lottery" works like this... ["IF" one buys a ticket, one has 1 in 14 million chances of winning.] That's the theory. However the moment you buy a ticket theory become "PROBABILITY"... as the EVIDENCE of your TICKET PROVES your PARTICIPATION.
So, where there is a SCINTILLA of EVIDENCE, we have PROBABILITY.
assistme 3 weeks ago
@assistme in order to prove this, you need to explain the motivation for all relevant actors. I have yet to hear why the DNC and Hawaii (let alone the FBI, CIA, and NSA) would participate.
So while yes their is a possibility of it being true, I'd say that it's about as likely as you having been conceived in the back seat of a clown car.
gaddez 2 weeks ago
@gaddez, while I encourage you to watch this entire vid, pay attention to time mark 2:15
/watch?v=QCIEnSFUNNo
assistme 2 weeks ago
@assistme Except that in late 2007, the DNC was behind hillary and the old guard was supporting her since she seemed the most electable based on the charisma/expierience scale. Further, There were plenty of old favors that were still owed to the clintons by the party.
If there had been any question by late december of obama's validacy he would have been out on his ass before the primary even started.
gaddez 2 weeks ago
@assistme lol Too bad Orly comes off nuerotic. Every vid i see of her she makes a fool of herself. She needs some classes in PR and How to Argue.
crazedNdiffused 1 week ago
@gaddez Hawaii has been a back door to fraudulent citizenship for many years.Was also a hotbed of communist demonstration and activity. I would cut to the chase and simply demand to see the passport Obama used to travel to Pakistan with a Pakistani friend while a student and when Pakistan was on the US no travel list.
crazedNdiffused 1 week ago
@crazedNdiffused
"when Pakistan was on the US no travel list."
Obama traveled to Pakistan in 1981. If there was a "US no travel list", please feel free to explain why there was an article in the NYTimes travel section on June 14, 1981 outlining hotels, transportation and restaurants for people traveling to Lahore Pakistan?
Cont'd.
arrrogantlyignorant 1 week ago
@arrrogantlyignorant Should have researched it before mimicking it. Guess i should thank you for the info. I believe Obama is a fraud, possibly Muslim, I don't believe racist. But i like they way you discredited my comment with out names and slander, forcing me to research.
crazedNdiffused 1 week ago
@crazedNdiffused
"I believe Obama is a fraud, possibly Muslim"
A fraud how? Eligibility?
He has said he is Christian, but even if he was a Muslim, the Bill of Rights provides for freedom of religion.
Let me add that I also appreciate your civility in the discussion.
arrrogantlyignorant 1 week ago
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@arrrogantlyignorant "He has said he is Christian, but even if he was a Muslim, the Bill of Rights provides for freedom of religion."
He can practice what he wants and we have a right to reject anyone because we do not like their practice. Not talking laws but our right to know and decide. what do you think of the profiles of his Czars?
crazedNdiffused 1 week ago
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Also there was a US Dept of State Travel Advisory issued Aug 17, 1981 that detailed visa requirements in/out of Pakistan.
Why would there be an article in the NY Times travel section and a Travel Advisory for US travelers, if there was a travel ban to Pakistan???
arrrogantlyignorant 1 week ago
@crazedNdiffused
"Hawaii has been a back door to fraudulent citizenship for many years"
Exactly what evidence do you base that assertion on?
arrrogantlyignorant 1 week ago
@arrrogantlyignorant yeah, I'd like to hear this too.
gaddez 1 week ago
@arrrogantlyignorant Got me again. Would be too tedious to show why i think that. i did propose it to my conservative buds, one wondered how I could have not have already known that. Best I can do here. Consider how Mexicans have a back door here and a license to engage in identity fraud on the home front as an example that it does happen.
crazedNdiffused 1 week ago
@crazedNdiffused
"my conservative buds, one wondered how I could have not have already known that"
Interesting. So are you saying that your buds are passing off as fact, things they have no evidence of?
"identity fraud"
What evidence do you have that Obama committed identity fraud?
Seriously, if he did, how many are "in" on it in order for it to succeed?
Cont'd
arrrogantlyignorant 1 week ago
@arrrogantlyignorant Probably should clarify. I reject both party's considering them opposite ends of the same shit stick. Always a mistake to go after the person rather than the issues and i never learn. Obama is a culmination of what is wrong but being the sitting president he gets all the glory as well as the condemnation. If you see no problem with the way Obama has handled things, what he supports and the people he appoints, I have no argument here.
crazedNdiffused 1 week ago
@crazedNdiffused
"If you see no problem with the way Obama has handled things"
What exactly does that have to do with eligibility?
arrrogantlyignorant 1 week ago
@arrrogantlyignorant lol, ya just lead me around like lil
pony. :) feel like one right now WAAAH!
crazedNdiffused 1 week ago
@arrrogantlyignorant Am way off topic here am bowing out
crazedNdiffused 1 week ago
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Cont'd
McCain said it was his lifelong dream to become President. GW Bush/Cheney fully supported him to win. Until Jan 20, 2009, they also controlled the CIA, FBI, NSC, Dept of Homeland Security, Secret Service.. etc etc etc...
Do you honestly think that Bush Jr would've simply handed over the country to some foreigner that they never checked?
What do your conservative buds think about it?
arrrogantlyignorant 1 week ago
@arrrogantlyignorant Excellent point.Bill Ayers admits to belonging to a terrorist group. Is he welcomed in academia? Maxine Waters openly threatens to nationalize American businesses and called Repubs Demons Pete Stark openly said the Federal Government can do pretty much anything it wants The Black Caucus was the driving force behind the policy that destroyed the housing market and Bush as well. Clinton paved the way and both partys prospered right up to the last minute
crazedNdiffused 1 week ago
@crazedNdiffused "Was also a hotbed of communist demonstration and activity". You have a problem with the first amendment?
gaddez 1 week ago
@gaddez Socialist material you are and Socialism is not a fixed state or ideology.You tell fire in a theater, shout fighting words or preach to the young an ideology that is 100% antagonistic to our Constitution and i would prosecute you. I support having political prisoners. They used to be called subversives or traitors. Socialist, Marxuist or Communists are free to openly be such but cannot hold office. Once he takes the oath he is technically a subversive.
crazedNdiffused 1 week ago
@crazedNdiffused "They used to be called subversives or traitors."
'
A lot of people said this about civil rights workers too. Also women's suffrage.
gaddez 1 week ago
@gaddez Can be said about anyone for any reason. Am talking about people that take an oath to uphold the Constitution and gain our trust. Even so uniting oppressed workers or a large wronged group against a government is the name of the revolutionary game. It is the Marxist MO. The Poles managed it without being usurped by Marxist because they united against fighting the Marxist robbing their country. When we are no longer a wealthy nation our diverse stupidity will be exposed.
crazedNdiffused 1 week ago
@crazedNdiffused Cite the part of the constitution that specifically calls out socialism and/or marxism.
gaddez 1 week ago
@gaddez I am in that stupid part of You Tube. You can at least try to frame argument in your favor before asking me address your ignorance. Hint: Try reading the Constitution and goggling the Amendments and then find out what Socialism isn't and Marxism is, and then stick your head in the toilet and flush. The answers are down there keep looking and don't cheat by holding your breath.
crazedNdiffused 1 week ago
@crazedNdiffused So in other words, You haven't got shit.
gaddez 1 week ago
@gaddez What will isay here in 250 letters and no links. I don't buy that right wing crap either that all people yearn to be free. You can't figure that when a critical mass is employed by, or dependent upon the State and Federal governments we will by default be socialist. Socialism is a transition not ideology. Moscow called it a transition to Communism. Others have a different name same ideological end game.You are uneucated in the merits of freedom. Public school? Leftist professors?
crazedNdiffused 1 week ago
@crazedNdiffused A transition is already happening, and has been for at least 30 some odd years, but it isn't to socialism dude; that would be impossible considering how The us has slid further and further to the right. Rather, the US is going deeper and deeper into the hands of capricious corporate interests that can outright buy politicians. Shit, Romney is doing it right now and the man is a political weather-vane.
gaddez 1 week ago
@gaddez Only now sliding to the right to me it is not even moderate ye Equation is simple Easy street liberals ruleTough times people lean right If we stayed in the middle no matter what we could maintain even keel That Constitution is only thing saving us And we are an anchor of Europe. When are not they will go back to there roots an anything goes.Germany is holding it all together and they have a right wing faction, patriotism, an immigration problem and a good memory.
crazedNdiffused 1 week ago
@crazedNdiffused
"not even moderate yet"
Dare I ask what you are scaling against? Because the US is one of the most right leaning nations on earth.
As to europe their problems are with greece whose problems are with corruption, not right/left politics.
gaddez 1 week ago
@gaddez Though to be fair I'm only counting first world nations in the list.
gaddez 1 week ago
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@gaddez "Dare I ask what you are scaling against? Because the US is one of the most right leaning nations on earth."
That is so far offt he wall i wouldn't know where to begin. I would ask who the hell taught you that but i already know. My rhetoric supports the political ideology of freedom that we have institutionalized and refined over time. Not the shit bags that trash and violate it. Communism, fascism, oligarchy=left. Republic=moderate, Anarchy=right.
crazedNdiffused 1 week ago
You want a revolution study the Russian Revolution. Good case history of how things go. Anarchy brings it down, house cleaning and a honeymoon of hope and change, a provisional government set up, is has no working model other than the shit it just overthrew and pisses people off, power plays and things get ugly and chaotic again Comes the tyrant. Hows that Arab spring working out Not hard to guess who is behind it and what kind of house cleaning occurs even if we had no media.
crazedNdiffused 1 week ago
@crazedNdiffused You talking to me about this? When did I suggest revolution?
gaddez 1 week ago
@gaddez Are really unaware what is going on. You above mention the transition. What is 'transition' in the context of governance when it is unconstitutional equate to. You think a right wing revolution would open the border flood us with third world refugees and growing subcultures form every third world shit hole nation in crisis. I think your just fucking with me i dont read you an idiot.
crazedNdiffused 1 week ago
@crazedNdiffused I suggest you look up "transition" and "revolution" in the dictionary before you call anyone an idiot, since one doesn't by default imply the other. Further, you seem desperate to ignore what I actually wrote. Try again, then come back and post.
gaddez 1 week ago
@gaddez Apologize.Will you direct me to what you referring to?
crazedNdiffused 6 days ago
@gaddez If you think Greece is the only problem you need to do some reading. Their problem is left wing socialism and being Statistics.You find it odd they DEMAND a bail out? You think they are unique? They are the weakest, maybe have the most employed by their government that produces nada and devised more entitlements in anticipation of a bailout to appease the disgruntled special interest. Unbelievable! Yet each American owes far more than the individual Greek.
crazedNdiffused 1 week ago
@assistme The best answer Ive ever heard, but still in disagreement. I didnt vote on that poll so there is no probabilty that ALL Americans feel this way. You see what Im saying? I understand completely what you mean. Its true to a certain extent I would say as well. Good Job answering like a human and not a child. Thanks.
KingDavid478 1 week ago
what the hell is this bitch's nationality
Spiderweb127 4 weeks ago
@Spiderweb127 I believe she's from the little-known former Soviet republic.....Stupidblondestan.
GeorgiaKev 4 weeks ago
@Spiderweb127 Can't stand hearing her speak or argue but she has twice the brain you have. Takes only a minute to Google her and read the basics
crazedNdiffused 1 week ago
@crazedNdiffused what the hell are you talking about. I didn't say either of those things
Spiderweb127 1 week ago
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@crazedNdiffused what the hell are you talking about. I didn't say either of those things
Spiderweb127 1 week ago
Well, that was a lot better than when the host starts screaming and yelling over her, haha.
Noromongrel 1 month ago
Just like any conspiracy theorists, there is no point even having a discussion with you. It doesn't matter how much evidence you're presented with, that evidence just becomes another layer of the conspiracy. There could be video evidence of Obama popping out of his mother on the steps of the Honolulu City Hall with an American flag in his hand, and you folks would yell "PHOTOSHOPPED!". Seriously. You're a fucking waste of perfectly good carbon.
DashCat9 1 month ago
THERE'S SOME NUTS IN EVERY BAG?
rubymcfadden 1 month ago
The truth fears never investigation...never
TheRemoteMower 1 month ago
Orly is correct. obama is a homosexual, illegal, muslim darkie who they named sotoro, then barack and shipped him to Hawaii, then Chicago, where he became a senator. He is a lying fraud who must be imprisoned, then deported.
Petekiv 1 month ago
@Petekiv Orly and the birthers are a bunch of conspiracy lunatics, she is the illegal one, where is her bc? She is a lunatic and should be in a padded room.
Obama deported to where? Hawaii?
clarity023 1 month ago
president mccain lmao
xtinerox05 1 month ago
That black guy sure seems like he would defend Israel to his death. I wonder what screw got knocked loose in his pea-brain? Oh wait, he's just another typical racist in fine clothes. Sure would be nice if I could be as racist without being harassed as a result. Oh wait, I wouldn't use that as an excuse for anything. Silly me! I totally forgot that I'm not a coward. Derp...
jihadjared 1 month ago
The president needs to just be like.. oh snaps... that photo-shopped birth certificate got figured out by people who can pick apart the bullshit... damn.
whoever made that certificate lol made 3-4 layers on that page.
hcon15 1 month ago
@hcon15 You're free to move to any of the many numerous countries out there, you know. Be a true patriot, take a stand, and live elsewhere. I hear Canada is nice...
Murrman84 1 month ago
Lol the national news anchors are soo full of shit. That mans first comment ( I'm skeptical ).
"If this guy is that good.. he should rule the world"... i hate this countries national news.
hcon15 1 month ago
Orly Taitz is a HERO!
newdayz1000 1 month ago
@newdayz1000 Orly a hero? She is a lunatic and the judges know that. She has an online law course, not accredited. She even told Lucas Smith and other guy to lie under oath, and was also fined with $20K for filing frivolous suits. Look it up! She is just a lunatic pushing a political agenda and all her lawsuits have been dumped. People wake up! Obama is your eligible president!
clarity023 1 month ago 2
if anyyone alleges that "they" are not good enough to control the Hawaii situation may i remind you of the kennedy assasination cover up . this current situation is simple by comparison
nutopiansg 1 month ago
Ironic how King wants to easy-pass unofficial documents and doesn't want to bother with the official ones!
visualvirtue 1 month ago
When the legitimacs learn admit that there is solid ground for further investigation, we can indeed peer into this, nd see the truth, but they put their fingers in there ears, and start humming, not wanting to see information.........which means they may just not want ot deal with the reality, the very possible reality Obama does not qualify.
moxyfruvous 1 month ago
138 likes.....21 dislikes......haaa haaaah haaaa!!!
moxyfruvous 1 month ago
Obama goes to prison January 26th!!! hhahahah!! Fraud!!!
moxyfruvous 1 month ago
@moxyfruvous
Theres not even going to be a "trial". You're a complete idiot.
arrrogantlyignorant 1 month ago
@moxyfruvous Obama goes to prison? haha that's in your dreams. Your diva lawyer is going to be sanction again... or disbarment? ... lol!
clarity023 1 month ago
THIS IS NOT ABOUT BLACK OR WITHE ...... IF YOU ARE AMERICAN YOU RIGHT KNOW !!! WE THE PEOPLE .
petracollins1 2 months ago
So now that the long form was released, what do birthers do? Claim the long form is fake too. Taitz knows she's lying but she's collected thousands of dollars from misguided and frightened whites. No one has asked her to explain where ALL that money went.
sergeantnorider 2 months ago
@sergeantnorider Number of experts claim it a forgery. No expert has validated it and no one accusing him is allowed to see the real one that's all i know and I have common sense. Really hard for you to believe he is a fucking radical idiot because he's the first black president. Are you reading about the jobs he is throwing away. Are you aware that our allies think he's moron and our enemies are laughing at us.Where the hell do you read? Agree Taitz is neurotic.
crazedNdiffused 1 week ago
@crazedNdiffused No "experts" have claimed anything. First off, none of these so-called 'experts' have even seen the document, let alone examined it. They are claiming they have proof from looking a a jpeg of the BC. Second, the State of Hawaii has validated it, which trumps people like copy machine salesman Vogt and the one who claims he has 14 FBI experts backing him up but can't name them.Stop swallowing the Birther bullshit and accept the facts.
tgear77 5 days ago
@tgear77 you call them birther, but racism is what it is an thats been going on for years
if God came down an told the evil racist birther obama was born in Hawaii, they call God a liar an say lets wait around for real God to come down an tell the turth
sillycandie007 3 days ago
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BO has used the system to become a multi millionaire with help, major help of the msm. Being president of this country is a game to him now. He has no idea how to govern this great country, that’s why he leaves everyting to someone else to figure out. Ever noticed BO never gets out in front of any issue? He hides til the result is in, BO & the msm have a grand time pointing fingers at all but themselves. A minor success then he spends weeks slapping BO on the back.
onstageagain 2 months ago
watch how the guy gets really nervous and starts shouting her down as soon as she breaks out the proof of false ss # info.
coastal541 2 months ago
@coastal541 Agreed.
martinez418 2 months ago
I'm American, i wasn't included on that VOTE POLE?. How can he implied ALL OF AMERICANS?. I say base on what that lady indicated Obama is not American... where's my VOTE on that?
CNN is full of shit, main stream media run by the Obama administration.
This lady had more credible proof on Obama NOT being an American appose to those morons ranting about what Obama stated ''I'm American''. Hey foreigners! come to America and state I'M AMERICAN! then you could run for president & fuck our country
martinez418 2 months ago
@martinez418 Well you were not included in on the poll because it's such a minute amount from each district that the chances of a "retarded" fellow like yourself to get picked to vote on a poll is slim to none.
Parknutzz 2 months ago
@Parknutzz You said and i quote: ''Well you were not included in on the poll because it's such a minute amount from each district that the chances of a "retarded" fellow like yourself etc?''... OK stupid, you would really need to read what you wrote before you call someone on you tube a ''RETARD''... you dumb troll. Please fix your incoherent form of butchered English before you place it in writing, OK stupid?. Anyhow stupid, Their numbers are incorrect.
martinez418 2 months ago
@martinez418 "i wasn't included on that VOTE POLE?".......you do know that poles are based off a percentage right? and the lady has enters forged paperwork in court. and she is lying in this video. the Governor stated that he cannot release the bc due to privacy laws.
noliesundead 2 months ago
@noliesundead Percentage of what?... the dude clearly stated ''ALL AMERICANS''. Once again, I'm not included, and so many other Americans. Forged paper work in court? if so she would be in Jail, but she's not... that alone proves is not forged. What's the ''bc?'' anyhow, what goes in court is public information, just go to any achieves department at city hall and you'll find court documentations on your neighbor. For the governor not to release such docs, then there's cover up.
martinez418 2 months ago
@martinez418 "Percentage of what"...of Americans its done by districts, " the dude clearly stated ''ALL AMERICANS''......you don't know how representative polls are conducted do you?
"Forged paper work in court? if so she would be in Jail"...no just excluded during the evidentiary hearing (as they were) thats why they never showed up in any of her cases.
bc is short for Birth Certificate (only 500 words on utube got to save space)
noliesundead 2 months ago
@noliesundead By districts? where is my vote by this allege district? or where are the other Americans that were not counted for in this district also?. It appears as these district votes are base upon only prognostications rather than a real HUMAN vote. What's an (EVINDETIARY HEARING?) <<Huh?. True cover up as usual by the US government. This lady brought proof on such allegations, or else she would be in jail. 500 words? try the next forum.
martinez418 2 months ago
@martinez418 where is my vote by this allege district?....this has nothing to do with voting. it is random. and is 10% of every district.
" these district votes are base upon only prognostications rather than a real HUMAN vote"...there done as a survey not a vote.
"What's an (EVINDETIARY HEARING?)"....look it up numb nuts. (but if you have not already you wont so, it's when the defendant and litigate present there evidence before the trial) cont
noliesundead 2 months ago
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@martinez418 and the both parties show that what they have is relevant, valid, and gives both sides a chance to challenge it and discover relevant documents, it is one of the 1st things you do in a court case. if it can't get pass here its because it does not cut it.
"This lady brought proof on such allegations"....she has never won a SINGLE CASE. that should tell you her level of expertise. try the next forum.....fine you wanna debate this on justinTV,blogtv, youtube live stream?
noliesundead 2 months ago
@martinez418 " What's an (EVINDETIARY HEARING?) <<Huh?. True cover up as usual".....so because you are ignorant of how the courts work, it must be a cover up? yeah that's logic at work.
noliesundead 2 months ago
@noliesundead Why do you continue to plagiarize?lol. To call others ignorant when you yourself wrote, and i quote:'' evindetiary hearing?'' yes, like i said... huh?. (EVINDENTIARY) is not even a word. So tell us, what's an evidentiary hearing?.
Surveys are not the American vote, but just that...surveys, don't you agree?.
Now you're getting pissed off child, quit your animal type yelping and approach the matter like a human being, not an ANGERED rabid mutt. So what's evindentiary?
martinez418 2 months ago
@martinez418 EVINDENTIARY is a word...evidentiary: 1 being, relating to, or affording evidence, 2 conducted so that evidence may be presented - (merriam-webster, n.d. para. 1)
is google to hard for you?
"Why do you continue to plagiarize?"....and whose work did i pass off as my own?
"Surveys are not the American vote, but just that...surveys"...and i had to explain that to you.
"you're getting pissed off child"...point it out please. calling you ignorant is not childish it's factual.
noliesundead 2 months ago
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@noliesundead You wrote, (EVINDENTIARY) not evidentiary... completely different, don't you agree?. Now you wrote and i quote:''1 being, relating to, or affording evidence, 2 conducted so that evidence may be presented'' you wrote what's written Exactly what's on the Webster's dictionary,lmfao. Look child, to use words you yourself don't know what they mean or EVEN spell is another sign of ignorance & stupidity. Quit ranting child, you're delusional & quite stupid. Webster's? lol
martinez418 2 months ago
@noliesundead Listen child/troll, you're in here looking to argue, not debate. Quit slandering people just cause you're too stupid. You wrote and i quote: ''and whose work did i pass off as my own?''...'you're upset and very delusional child, quit your senseless stumbling troll, you're obviously enrage. Even your interpretation of the word PLAGIARIZE is incorrect. Nice job using the Dictionary stupid. What a dumb ass troll,lol
You're obviously not bright, but hey, at least you try
martinez418 2 months ago
@martinez418 "Quit slandering people"....I can't this is written forum, not spoken. slander can only be spoken. And you call me dumb? So will you accept my debate or just keep on with ad hominem?
noliesundead 2 months ago
@noliesundead Child, you're and idiot,lol. You're trying to hard to prove me wrong, but once again you look like a dumb ass,lol. Yes you're (slandering people) child. You can slander people in writing or verbally, that's what you've been doing kiddo, (slandering). You're truly pathetic troll, one laughable troll using a dictionary to translate other peoples words, but then again you're incapable of using a dictionary CORRECTLY to
prove someone wrong,lol. Please do try again child.
martinez418 2 months ago
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@martinez418 "You're trying to hard to prove me wrong".....don't have to try, you do it for me :)
"You can slander people in writing"....that would be liable.
but i have yet to do either. please show me where I did, and I will send you a dollar.
"using a dictionary to translate other peoples words"....which I cited afterwards. my other to a debate stands.
noliesundead 2 months ago
@noliesundead Ad hominen? lol. You're definitely trying to hard to sound bright kid,lol you're farce. Now look that up... cause i know you will,lol. Please use it correctly and don't misspell the word, OK troll?.
Obvious how you love using words you yourself don't use in your daily vocabulary,lol but only on keyboard while holding a Webster dictionary in your mother's basement... pathetic.
Nice try troll, try again.
martinez418 2 months ago
@martinez418 "lol you're farce"...You mean; you're a farce (grammar not your strong suit either it seems).
"you love using words you yourself don't use in your daily vocabulary,lol but only on keyboard while holding a Webster dictionary in your mother's basement... pathetic"..... you claim i slander you, but then you write that. pot calling the kettle back much?
oh i get it your one of those internet Trolls. well Ma'ma you're going it wrong.
noliesundead 2 months ago
@noliesundead Damn kid/troll.. quit embarrassing yourself,lol. Wrong again, you CAN'T use/say ''you're A farce'' remove the (A) child, where are you getting your education from stupid? oh my bad, yes of course... your mother's basement. Look troll, you're using the words incorrectly and you're unable to translate them properly or use them in coherent English for that matter,lol you're trying to damn hard and failing at it,lol. I call you troll then you repeat what i say,lol idiot.
martinez418 2 months ago
@martinez418 "I'll reply to your YELPING later troll"...so when you say later, you mean right away?
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@noliesundead Are you upset cause i replied to your YELPING right away?,lol. And here i thought you were appreciative... but then again you're a TROLL, makes perfect sense, don't you agree?lol.
Anyhow, I'll take my time in replying to you later... you YELPING troll; after all you're farce... or should i say '' you're a farce?'' lmfao buhahahaha
Thanks for the laughs kid,lol.
martinez418 2 months ago 2
@noliesundead <<< One dumb troll... loves to repeat the insults you've address to him as his own by using (PLAGIARISM) LOL. Just watch/read how bad he'll stumble once again like always in trying to interpret it's multiple definitions.
Yes, be gentle with the TROLL, he's quite delusional and very stupid.
martinez418 2 months ago 2
@noliesundead I'll reply to your YELPING later troll... yes look that word up too, cause i know you will,lol.
Now we know where you get your education from kiddo... you tube/perfect strangers and at your mother's basement while holding a Webster's dictionary. How pathetic.
You're too funny child,lmfao.
martinez418 2 months ago
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@martinez418 "what goes in court is public information, just go to any achieves department at city hall and you'll find court documentations on your neighbor"...yes, but only the doc that were aloud in the case.
"For the governor not to release such docs, then there's cover up"........by law he could not. the same would apply if he tried to reveal yours.
noliesundead 2 months ago
Where he was born is really a non-issue. Obamas father WAS NOT an American citizen, FACT. Therefore it doesnt matter if he was born in the middle of the US with a thousand eye witness', he is not a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN and can not hold the position of President. It just proves how corrupt our government is on all sides.
drdeepstro2u 2 months ago
@drdeepstro2u the supreme court says other wise
noliesundead 2 months ago
@noliesundead the supreem court has never ruled on obama, if they had it would have proven the last BC he provided was a forgery.
drdeepstro2u 2 months ago
@drdeepstro2u not on Obama but on case's that hold precedent in this matter. us v wong kim ark , perkin v elg, Town of New Hartford v. Town of Canaan, Elk v. Wilkins
noliesundead 2 months ago
@noliesundead you should restudy those cases, none of them are about "natural born" status, us v wong kim ark sets precidence on "naturalized" status, perkin v elg is about children born to 2 naturalized citizens (obamas dad was no citizen at all), Town of New Hartford v. Town of Canaan doesnt dealwith "natural born" statys, and Elk v. Wilkins deals with indians born on a reservation obama is not an indian. Want to try a few more??
drdeepstro2u 2 months ago
@drdeepstro2u " us v wong kim ark sets precidence on "naturalized" status" oh yeah? "A child born in the United States, of parent[s] of Chinese descent...becomes at the time of his birth a citizen of the United States." Naturalization was NEVER mentioned. kids are citizens at birth regardless the parentage. and if you dont have to naturalize you are a Natural born citizen. you want to go READ the case? i can lead you my westlaw account if you want.
noliesundead 2 months ago
@noliesundead you liberals sure are easily confused. Maybe you should read the case again. A simple google search of "supreme court rules on natural born citizen" and you will find that wong kim ark was not considered a "natural born citizen" at best a native born. There is a HUGE difference between the 2.
drdeepstro2u 2 months ago
@drdeepstro2u the SC found WKA to be born a citizen. The SC only recognize TWO types of citizen - Natural or naturalized. now WKA was born a citizen, thus never having to Naturalize, leaving only one option that his status can be.simple logic leaves only 1 choice. (and on a side note the SC see native and natural meaning the SAME THING).
noliesundead 2 months ago
@noliesundead I agree the Sc did find WKA a citizen, I never stated any different, but he is not a "natural born citizen" only a native born citizen. On the basis of the 14th Amendment the majority opinion coined a new definition for “native citizen”, as anyone who was born in the U.S.A., under the jurisdiction of the United States. This is very different from a "natural born" which must be born to 2 US citizens. WKA was a citizen but could never run for the highest office.
drdeepstro2u 2 months ago
@drdeepstro2u "but he is not a "natural born citizen" only a native born citizen" there are only 2 types, by logic he is a NBC. and the SC uses native and natural interchangeably (i can cite this if you want). so they are one in the same. "natural born" which must be born to 2 US citizens"....no where in US law or SC ruling states both parents must be citizens to children born on us soil.
noliesundead 2 months ago
@noliesundead We can keep going back and forth all day, but it doesnt really matter anyway. The constitution is obviously not the law of the land anymore as both sides have done all they can to get around such an inconvenient document. I just hope you are ready for what is coming in the very near future. What our forefathers warned us about is here.
drdeepstro2u 2 months ago
@drdeepstro2u "We can keep going back and forth all day'...we can, but the fact that the SC are the interpreters of the The constitution, ever since the time of the founding of this country(if are forefathers knew things like this would happen UNLESS you do not consider Hamilton a forefather) means that are laws change with the times.
noliesundead 2 months ago
@noliesundead once again the supreme court hasnt ruled on a natural born citizen requirments, and yes some laws change with the times but requirements for President should never change. The constitution is now an irrelevant document to politicians, so it really doesnt matter what was put in place at the birth of our nation. The only way this country will ever go back to the way it was intended is for lots of blood to be spilled in the streets.
drdeepstro2u 2 months ago
@drdeepstro2u "once again the supreme court hasnt ruled on a natural born citizen"..Again they have. if you are born with citizenship you are one, since naturalization is not needed, leaving ONLY NBC status
"The constitution is now an irrelevant document to politicians"....and the citizens will bring it to the SC as they always have since this country started.
now do you have anything to support your assertion? what was that? no? thought so. (and b4 you write something make sure it is valid
noliesundead 2 months ago
@noliesundead Yes you will see the support for my assertion when this tyranical president passes the NDAA written by tyranical congressman and senators that he promised to veto. Im sure you probably support that treasonous piece of legislature
drdeepstro2u 2 months ago
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@drdeepstro2u "this tyranical president" name 1 right he took away from you.
"he promised to veto"....well if that is the case what is your problem?
noliesundead 2 months ago
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@drdeepstro2u You stated, '' The only way this country will ever go back to the way it was intended is for lots of blood to be spilled in the streets''. Very TRUE. The question is, are you/we... willing to make such change????
martinez418 2 months ago
i don't know if he was born an american, but it seems to me that they got really offended when she said that he has a stole s.s.# and cut her off and never let her finish,
yea that was not the best choice for them to make, but hey thats what they do
iamaronpaulblican 3 months ago
Orly Taitz is a RUSSIAN and needs to go back to her own country with the other COMMIES!
cromagnan 3 months ago
THOUGHT FOR THE DAY!
"Once a government is committed to the principle of silencing the voice of opposition, it has only one way to go, and that is down the path of increasingly repressive measures, until it becomes a source of terror to all its citizens and creates a country where everyone lives in fear." --Harry S. Truman
SuperKahones 3 months ago
Yep, she needs cock!
deeppurple28 3 months ago
"President Mccain" that is a freudian slip Taitz.
ExodusPessoa 3 months ago
OBAMA is a American Patriot? Yeah right! And shit doesn't stink!
SGTLima66 3 months ago
Obama should be arrested and stand trial for High Treason. He is not even a citizen and is using a fake name and SSN. "Obama" is a criminal.
lickdacat2 3 months ago
@lickdacat2
And your evidence is where?
arrrogantlyignorant 3 months ago
@arrrogantlyignorant The evidence is everywhere! You fail to see the tree for the forest.o more research!
SuperKahones 3 months ago
@SuperKahones
Speculation, hearsay, spun half truths and fictional, made up nonsense is not evidence.
Orly Taitz = epic fail.
arrrogantlyignorant 3 months ago
Her last name is Taintz? orly?
TBird4490 3 months ago
She should get a medal? Yeah, only if it's sewn to a straitjacket.
lifestandstillhere 3 months ago 2
There was no Senatorial hearing for McCain. Just more total bullshit from Taitz' mouth.
tgear77 3 months ago
The entire Birther Movement is a joke. When your so-called spokesperson is a raving nutcase with zero credibility like Oily it comes as no surprise at all that the Birthers have no proof to back their claims. Par for the course for these types of bottom dwelling douchebags.Oily should be thrown in Federal prison & forced to pay back the tax money she wasted with her unfounded lawsuits. Fuck off Birthers
lovecraftis 3 months ago
so she believes a tabloid over a newspaper announcement and a government-issued document... typical. socialist communist nazi kenyan muslim i say!
frustratedlogician 3 months ago
Good lord, She wants to pretend the Newspaper from 61 does not exist. How stu........
Never mind not worth spending energy on these types.... And yes thats my Opinion
MagnumSerpentine 3 months ago
I would like to see Obama supporters address the Social Security issue. If Obama has no history nor connection with the State of Connecticut, then it is a valid question to ask why is he using a bogus S.S. number? They should be honest and not demonic the questioner, nor should they side-step this question. I think it should be asked on the campaign trail as well. I might go to one of the events and publicly ask the question myself. It needs to be answered.
epw0003 3 months ago
@epw0003 Prior to the SSA consolidating its offices in Baltimore in 1979, it was not uncommon for states to offer available SSNs to other states due to supply and demand. Having a CT prefix on his SSN is nothing out of the ordinary. The prefix for my SSN does not belong to the state I was born in either. A simple answer for the simple minds of the Birther movement.
tgear77 3 months ago
@friendsofjeremy, Name one president other than Barack Obama who has used a stolen S.S. number and occupied the White House. This has nothing to do with ethnicity. Notice how Cornell kept saying she didn't want to accept the truth, when it was he and the the news anchorman that would not and could not answer the S.S. card issue. The fact is the S.S. number Obama is currently using cannot pass an e-verify test. Cornell's position is more emotional and racially biased, while not substantial.
epw0003 3 months ago
Republicans wonder why they're thought of as racists. Hmmm...maybe because the first black president ever is being accused as foreign born? Idiots.
She says the same would happen to a white candidate? When has it happened? Name one president whose residency and legitimacy has been questioned in such a way.
The only reason McCain had that hearing is because HE ACTUALLY PHYSICALLY WASN'T BORN IN THE USA. Do they understand this?
friendsofjeremy 3 months ago
so basically she just keeps saying "no there is no evidence" no matter how much evidence he's piling up? I mean a notice in the paper back then, a birth announcement, a birth certificate-the same one I have-and that's not enough? Crazy. And 43% of Republicans say prob or deff not? Wow, didn't know people in my party were that stupid.
friendsofjeremy 3 months ago
wow, anyone who believes this crap is just without hope. seriously people, get a grip.
friendsofjeremy 3 months ago 2
Who let the meth addict on cnn?
slpyart78 3 months ago 2
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If this is such a scam...why would the REPUBLICAN ESTABLISHMENT in Hawaii be in on it...don't make a lot of sense
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Bungalowtv 3 months ago
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Bungalowtv 3 months ago
If all you say is true, then why is Obama fighting so hard to prove he's a Natural Born citizen? Let him go to court and prove us wrong and face all of the allegations. He was a citizen of Kenya, Indonesia and Britain. He can not be considered Natural born which requires 2 citizen parents. He doesn't fit that requirement. If he does let him prove it in court instead of hiding the facts.
zanografix 3 months ago
The idea that someone would use a fake social security for 30 years is beyond stupid. Fake numbers are for minutes, hours days maybe a week to apply for a loan or credit card. NOT FOR DECADES!! He would have been arrested by now
TheCerebralDude 4 months ago
LOL...Social security fraud! Wow! She is absolutely insane.
concorde9615 4 months ago
That ho does look and sound crazy
concorde9615 4 months ago
The thing I don't understand, is why they don't attack Obama on something substantial? Who the fuck cares where he was born? The law is trifle anyway, any foreign power with malicious intent could find heaps of corrupt US citizens to put in the presidential race.
madeye0 4 months ago
These people are NUTS!!
Jose21Arroyo 4 months ago