Religious people including JW's in 'look forward to the brutal murder of billions?'Btw the allies didn't fight the Nazi's to free the Jew's! They were in fact surprised to find the atrocities! You make great points against religion,but you can make points without exaggerating.I just find so many historical but common retrospective distortion of reality regarding Nazi Germany!There are many more exaggerations.Did you free yourself from one form of propaganda to enslave yourself to your own?
As an ex JW I share you're disgust for all religion and clearly recognize it's destructiveness. I find you put off on current JW victims, what the WT is responsible for and yet you neglected to make any distinction. I had plenty of non JW relatives and never felt so morbid as you described!... We at least we 'were' victims and yet you now demonize current victims?..This goes out in a public forum. You believed it as well as I. be more responsible about not demonizing victims such as we were.
Interesting, that is not what Jesus taught, you left out the anti-Christ factor, evolve-who told you that? Hey, I wonder why people dont get along, well I guess we will see, sad when people speak and dont understand, why feel sad, your feelings as you put it is just vain, your whole speech is an oxymoron speech, how can someone who believes in NOTHING preach? Live your life and quit worrying about other people, hold on here some better advice-Repent-kingdom of Heaven is at hand-God bless
@soopinionthoughts300 You don't choose to believe something, it is something in your whole being that tells you to believe it. She's speaking because she believes that this is wrong. And I do recall that Einstein was an Atheist...would you say he had no right to 'preach' his scientific theories and math equations? No...but why would you let someone preach about how everyone else is going to suffer(more) because they don't believe the same things you do? It's just wrong.
@Roxas131413 hmm you speaking for her? I ask a question, she put herself out there, so If I come to a debate with firsthand knowledge, I am wrong? Hey read what you want, but why add the religious spice? Meaning in the BIBLE the New testament Jesus warn on people using religion to get whatever they want from people(hypocrite) but he say judge people on their action for example the(pharisees) thats why I said thats not what Jesus taught, stop listening to hypocrites, hey its advice
@soopinionthoughts300 I am not speaking for her, no, that was my thoughts on your comment.
I do believe humans have royally screwed religion up. It would be better if everyone just...got along and helped people instead of condemn them. Hypocrites...there are too many. =/
She probably worries because people seriously believe everyone who doesn't see their way is going to be in eternal pain, I have a bunch of watchtower stuff that says people who don't go by God will suffer.
@Roxas131413 what is holy? some people dont have good reading comprehension! See thats why I said read as an advice, Jesus stayed around sinners, so what is sinner, the Army takes all type of people and belief, but one of the Army main value is to do right in the absent of direct authority, aint that what Jesus preach? It is so simple and yall make it hard, Jesus said to treat others like you want to be treated
@soopinionthoughts300@Roxas, what your saying is what Jesus is saying, except Jesus acknowledge the spirit that holds his body up, life, without life in trees, animals, and even the natural bacteria thats on your body you have nothing, so he is thankful, Jesus loved everybody even Judas, even that sinner that died on the cross with him, In the movie Roots Kunta spirit was broke to call himself Toby, but Jesus forgave and didnt break his spirit when they beat him
@Roxas131413 yep, your belief is not to believe, you fight for your belief just as any other religious person, being an adult, I ask what makes you different? A lot of people dont read the bible but make a debate about how bad it is, thats like me saying the island is a terrible place to be and cant understand why people love to go there, getting bit by sharks and jelly fish but I never been to the island in my whole life, its my opinion but people would just say I'm silly
@soopinionthoughts300 I fight for the ignorant religious people to stop hurting others, all they've done is destroy and harm, and make people ignorant. I have read enough of the Bible to know that no omnipotent God wrote it or gave those men visions of what he wanted them to write, they just made up a control source, and it's worked for centuries. I am religious when it comes to other people telling me I'm going to suffer for eternity just because I love my girlfriend. No.
@Roxas131413 Hey I hear you, listening to other people as you stated, hey thats you, let me keep it simple, treat others how you want to be treated, wow thats hard, cause what your suggesting go against it nothing wrong with bully-ing, do as you feel, hmmm there sociopaths, pedophiles, and serial killers, they are not religious, anyway this is going nowhere I wish you the best to believe or not it is your choice, God bless
@ul2356 No. The sky is mostly oxygen and nitrogen gas, with increasing amounts of carbon dioxide. There are 3 rock planets in our solar systems that each have a sky, (gassy atmosphere). There are 4 planets that are nothing but sky (Gas Giants). None of this proves the existence of any gods. It just proves gravity, electromagnetic force, and the existence of elements. And don't respond with "Well 'who' made all those things." Because no "who" made any of it. "Who's" didn't exist back then.
Everyone one the earth...?? Well he is not the John 3:16-18 says he sent his son to save the world..... but the sad thing is many ppl rather live for their sins the for what God has wants to give them... I mean jus thing about it... everything from the old to the new testiment why did God do what he had to.. for fun or did you jus read a verse or two and made your conclusion there is more the what you kno and if you ever really sat down and read every book every world you would really know who
@23lilone32 The untampered word of GOD is written on every heart so I dont waste my time or take any chances reading it nowhere else! and if you believe in the bible that is written in Hebrews 8:10 it reads "I GOD HAVE WRITTEN MY WORD ON EVERY HEART AND MY LAWS ON EVERY MIND THEREFORE NO NEIGHBOR NOR RELATIVE CAN SAY TO ONE ANOTHER YOU OUGHT TO KNOW GOD BECAUSE I HAVE WRITTEN MY WORD ON EVERY HEART" GOD BLESS
@ul2356 well for our guidance because in John 1: 1-5 it says that in the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God so when we accept Jesus in our lives for real and not just say oh yea i believe in God, then thats when the covenant God promises come true in our lives and for that to happen you need to have a true relationship with God not just on Sundays but your whole life, this is also why you find many ppl not really committed cause all they have is religion
You may say but why would he do that if he love??? But the thing is you, me and everyone on this earth is a sinner God loves us but hate our sins therefore a prise needs to be paid someone with out sin had to pay that prise... the Bible says he looked and looked but couldn't find one rightous that's why he sent his son the sin is in our flesh so it had to be a someone in flesh and not in spirit that needed to die.... I guess you kno all this... but you thinking is why is God trying to kill
Wow it sad to know that the devil can fool a person and blind them from truth.... the thing is many ppl have jus that a religion but never an actual relationship with God we say if God is love and good how can there be so much tragedy in this world, and the thing is if God loves he must hate you can't say I love children and be for abortion that would be Hipparchus to say such a thing.... God love what is Good and hates what is evil.... the Bible tells us he sent his son to die for us....
I always go deep on my comments, but yeah religions were hijacked from very early on,and the scriptures were hijacked and abused very early on. And everyone is spineless these days... our spineless "ruling class"...
But what's interesting to note...is that the "ruling class" believes very much in this whole God topic, so whether you believe or not...There is a very abusive power that controls the world and we need to expose everyone because our futures depend on it. Follow world affairs
Moxie I love your videos, but I'm against your science lol. I guess if you are regurgitating textbook definitions then yes everything is random... but the Universe is infinite so it's inevitable to be in the state we are in...but for us to be here talking about it...that is truly the beautiful thing about it all...that we were lucky enough to be a part of it all.
So what is the purpose of life? To live according to the Universes will. Now learn how...
I would encourage you to publish your book instead of reading it for free. There wwas once a man who killed himseld beacuse he could not publish his book, bthis mom published it and now it is a bestseller. don't give up hope.
"Perhaps religion is evolution's kryptonite, and that it's not only slowing our cognitive development, but actually retarding it?"
WTF?
Are you taking the first as a given? What evidence do you have for this claim? If every trait we have is adaptive, wouldn't evolution be responsible for giving us the capacity for religious belief in the first place? "Cognitive development" towards what, exactly? Isn't the endgame of evolution just brute-force survival, not intellectual or moral progress?
Instead of coming to your own conclusions based upon limited knowledge of how the bible works, why don't you people who think it's all made up, take a proper adult look at it? Too scared of what you'll find out? That's the main reason why people avoid (not all thank goodness) it, because it represents CHANGING YOUR LIFESTYLE, and you are all too self centred for that!. You don't want to give up your habits. Let alone learn how to be better.
WHAT does this woman think christendom teaches? Hellfire. Isn't that worse?. Permanent torture? The JW's are the only ones to point out Hell isn't where we go!. Sorry if you can't accept what the bible says, maybe you'd like paodophiles, murderers, rapists to come into the new world would you?. God has always had a consequence, but gives an option. Deal with it like the JW's are! You're deluded!!
"Sorry if you can't accept what the bible says, maybe you'd like paodophiles, murderers, rapists to come into the new world would you?. You're deluded!!"
With statements like that you're just as deluded as the Jehovah's witnesses.
@Pigdowndog You don't know what you're talking about. clueless. i ve heard this kind of ignorance so many times before. You know why? because that isn't what is going to happen in the new world, this is ."PS 37 11. "But the meek ones themselves will possess the earth, and they will indeed find their exquisite delight in the abundance of peace. PS 37 20. "For the wicked themselves will perish'. Does that sound like what you said?. There's plenty more where that came from too!! Dont be so negative
@Pigdowndog No, i'm not a loon, don't know what a loon is. Bible quotations don't mean anything 'to you' yet, because you don't understand it. I hope one day you'll take a look, don't go through life with the blinders on thinking you know it all. You know why?! here's another one for ya!! "Trust in God with all your heart and do not lean upon your own understanding'.PR 3.5 PR6 "In all your ways take notice of him, and he himslef will make your paths straight'.
@Pigdowndog 68 yrs old and still nothing?. I know you havn't read the bible cover to cover, that is just a lie. Show me your knowledge on it! YOu british will never admit when you 're wrong so i already know you're stubborn, because that's how you people over there are for one. But, I think the british in general are cold and unhygenic!. Point out something from it, and back up your claim of him not being real. We had to have come from somewhere. DNA IS VERY COMPLEX.
@queue555 "I know you havn't read the bible cover to cover" Oh yes I have. That's why I'm an atheist. "YOu british will never admit when you 're wrong" We're frequently wrong and admit it. "I think the british in general are cold and unhygenic!." Know a lot of us do you? Don't generalise, it's ignorance. "DNA IS VERY COMPLEX." Hurrah! That's very true. Also this Brit can type sentences with correct spelling and grammar. Also I don't engage in racism. The Americans I've met I like.
@Pigdowndog Yes, used to live in that awful country. Can't help but generalize, every single one i've met has turned out to be a flake, unreliable. Even ones over here. so now i stay away from them. I have long nails sorry if i miss a key. i can type 70 a minute. You are prejudiced against God. I challenge you again, to quote something, or don't you have a bible in your home?.
@queue555 "used to live in that awful country." I very much doubt that. "every single one i've met has turned out to be a flake" Oh Dear! There's that racism again. "i can type 70 a minute." Slow down or cut your nails, you might create an intelligible sentence. "You are prejudiced against God." That's illogical as he doesn't exist. "I challenge you again, to quote something" I did. My quote was " the bible is bullshit". "you don't have a bible in your home?. " I have two in fact.
@Pigdowndog You're just proving my point. I was unfortunately born there in Southampton. All my family live there on that little island. You are doing the one of the typical british things, presuming you know, when you can't back it up with anything. You could if you were telling the truth. If you'd really taken in what the bible speaks of you'd be able to quote something. Present your case?. Bit like an attorney going into court without any paperwork to defend his client, kinda stupid.
" If you'd really taken in what the bible speaks of you'd be able to quote something."
I can tell you the god of the bible is homophobic, racist (like you), endorses slavery, infanticidal, genocidal etc etc. It's all there in black and white and I can assure you that you do not live by it's rules. I can guarantee that statement.
There you go, you can type a proper sentence. Well done! Now all you've got to do is learn more about your particular superstition.
@Pigdowndog See, how you keep doing what i said you would do? You can't do it can you? Too scared to go get that bible and prove anything, you are the attorney without the paperwork, and the whole courtroom is looking at you like you're an idiot. You cannot make accusations without even trying to back up your claims! Typical brit, 'can't be bothered'. no wonder that country has lost everything. bye bye.
@queue555 "Too scared to go get that bible and prove anything" The bible doesn't prove anything, it's fiction. I might just as well quote Harry Potter! You claim there is a god it's up to you to provide evidence not me. Where's your logic? "you're an idiot" I'm not the one believing in fairy stories. "Typical brit, 'can't be bothered'." Boring racism. "no wonder that country has lost everything" We aren't 29 trillion dollars in debt to China like America is. China owns you.
@Pigdowndog yes, we are. Anyway, Consider this point, and i have more. In his book Evolution: A Theory in Crisis, molecular biologist Michael Denton concluded that the theory of evolution "is more like a principle of medieval astrology than a serious scientific theory.' He also referred to Darwins evolution as on of the greatest myths of our time.
Blimey! That was a change of gear. What happened to the bible argument?
Anyway, Michael Denton is a well known theist who advocates intelligent design. Intelligent design was exposed as an attempt to get creationism into your schools.
Check out the Kitzmiller v. Dover Area School District trial. The judge came to the conclusion that it wasn't scientific but just another way to introduce religion into the science class.
@Pigdowndog haha! Ok, i'll dig up some more hard head. i'd still appreciate it if you would brave yourself and go get a copy of one of those bibles and show me something you find bizaree, unfair, unjust etc.
Try these: Genesis 7:21-23, Drowns everything on earth. Chronicles 13:15-18, God helps the men of Judah kill 500,000 fellow Israelites. Exodus 12:29, Kills all first born. Numbers 16:41-49, God kills 14,000 people for complaining that God keeps killing them. Kings 2:23-24, God has 42 children mauled by bears. Judges 11:30-39, Jephthah burns his daughter alive as an offering for God’s favor .
@Pigdowndog The Deluge? You find that unjust?. it happened. Are you wanting to know why as you think it was unfair?. I'll take one at time, just wanna get this straight, am i to discuss the validity of the the flood, or the reason for it?
@Pigdowndog Indeed, many highly respected scientists do not consider it unscientific to believe in an intelligent First Cause. Ont he other hand, to say that the universem, its laws & life just happened is INTELLECTUALLY UNSATIFYING.Everyday experience tells us that design especially highly sophisticated design calls for a designer.
This is just scary, how you have read my mind and put it on Youtube. I wasn't a Jehovah's Witness, but you've got everything else on here. Retarding the Earth, one congregation at a time. >_< Ah, babies, and how they're made...
& end of the world as in 'as we know it' - instead we will see 1 unified government ruling over entire globe. A govt. that is not corrupt, or greedy but a govt. that is just, fair, loving, generous, kind. A govt. that wants nothing but 2 rule over God fearing loving people.
Revelation 21:4 "And he will wipe out every tear from their eyes, and death will be no more, neither will mourning nor outcry nor pain be any more. The former things have passed away."
@xerriasinsherry (CONT) "God is only angry at things such as violence, injustice, inequality, racism -anything that causes pain to/for his creation- us."
What non-sense. Your imaginary God, and specifically the delusional people who believe they serve it, has proven themselves a primary source of the violence, injustice, inequality and racism that causes pain and suffering on our planet.
Your God is a creation of people, who play him in the 3rd person, to rule over others. It's sickening.
@TheHigherVoltage You do have a point- religion certainly has been instrumental in many of the world's problems. Except...
JW's -in particular- are not politically involved; stance is neutral; do not even vote.
JW's are not involved in any element of war.
JW's are global- Matt 24:14 "witness to all nations." In fact they are soon to publish a new brochure in 500 languages- the Readers Digest publishes in 23! Surely this indicates they harbour no racial prejudices.
@xerriasinsherry "they are soon to publish a new brochure in 500 languages- the Readers Digest publishes in 23! Surely this indicates they harbour no racial prejudices."
How so? The bible, what JW's point to, is published in almost every language we know of - and it's filled with racial, sexual, intellectual, and philosophical prejudices. And like all Christian sects (I'm aware of) - the doctrine of "we're the only one's good and going to heaven" - is the ultimate form of prejudice.
@TheHigherVoltage Well if your claim is true, and we are racist, then naturally we wouldn't bother taking the trouble of translating our publications into 500 languages!
Could you give me an example of some of the racial, sexual, intellectual prejudices that our publications are filled with as you say?
Philosophical is a given- as philosophy itself is a system of principles..
The bible portrays humans living on the earth forever- not living, dying, then either going to hell or heaven.
@xerriasinsherry Could you give me an example of some of the racial, sexual, intellectual prejudices that our publications are filled with as you say?
Let me give you the most obvious, and evil one : intellectual prejudice. Like all godcults, yours demands their 'church authorities' are the only ones who can read/interpret/follow their godcult's godbook correct. And of course, like all godcults, real questioning is not tolerated.
@xerriasinsherry "The bible portrays humans living on the earth forever- not living, dying, then either going to hell or heaven. "
Interpret the bible any way you like...but you might want to look into why verifiable facts prove this is non-sense. Specifically how we know our earth will be uninhabitable in less than 5 billion years - it'll never see 'forever'.
@TheHigherVoltage ah, but bible prophecy foretells that this earth- or rather civilization as we know it- will soon draw to an end, God will not let us continue to go on the way we are. Sooner than later the US will advise us of a new 'peace and security,' then religion will be turned upon and shown up for all it's involvement with many of the world's problems past +present etc...and then- God will step in. We're nearly there.
@xerriasinsherry "ah, but bible prophecy foretells that this earth- or rather civilization as we know it- will soon draw to an end."
Jesus said 'the end would come' within the generation of people he was talking to.
"God will not let us continue to go on the way we are." What non-sense. It's been almost 2000 years since Revelations was scribbled down - and still no magic sky man coming to the rescue.
You are exactly the type of person this woman is talking about in this video. "We're nearly there" you clowns been saying that for the longest now. You want death and destruction and the sad thing is there most likely won't be a happy ending afterwards. You believe in campfire stories plain and simple. If you weren't indoctrinated at such a young age then you wouldn't believe in all this lunacy.
@TheHigherVoltage also, JWs follow strictly what the bible says- & no where in the bible does it say that humans will be tormented in hell.
This is something that perhaps other Christians may have misinterpreted and have subsequently used as a form of power over people.
The bible clearly shows that God's purpose was for humans to live on earth forever in beautiful conditions. No heaven or hell afterlife was planned a wager for our actions- because we were never intended to die.
Bible shows God is kind- he does not want innocent to be destroyed & it is unlikely that he would do anything of such.
>Micah 7:18,19 "Who is a God like you, one pardoning error ...? He will certainly not hold onto his anger forever, for he is delighting in loving kindness, He will show us mercy..."
God is only angry at things such as violence, injustice, inequality, racism -anything that causes pain to/for his creation- us. End of the world is 2 start fresh, with people who are 'good.'
People who don't care about any1 except themselves 2 go.
2 Timothy 3:1-4 "In the last days critical times hard to deal with will be here. For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, self-assuming, haughty, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, disloyal, having no natural affection, not open to any agreement, slanderers, without self control, fierce, without love of goodness, betrayers, headstrong, puffed up with pride, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God."
2 Peter 3:9 > "Jehovah is not slow respecting his promise, as some people consider slowness but he is patient with you because he does not desire any to be destroyed but desires all to attain repentance."
He also is using his servants (JW') to preach and spread the message as shown in: Matthew 24:14 >" And this good news of the Kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come."
' Of course there was always underlying trepidation which came from hoping that I'd done enough to be found worthy of God's salvation.'
There's never anything good enough we can do in and of ourselves to find favour with God. Only the Blood of Jesus Christ, and those justified by faith alone, with their sin under that blood, can be 'worthy' of salvation.
'BEING justified therefore by faith, let us have peace with God, through our Lord Jesus Christ:' (Romans 5:1)
@MrOzanachronism "There's never anything good enough we can do in and of ourselves to find favour with God."
Your God is not real. He's the creation of a man-made, man-run cult that trains people to be self-loathing sycophants clinging to religious authorities, who play their imaginary overlord in the 3rd person.
It's so sad people are willing to demean themselves with this sadistic non-sense - instead of questioning it.
@Flash02021990 "what if my religion never goes to war for no government. what if we have proof of a God...even if it sounds dumb when i say it"
Yes, it does sound dumb when you say it...because it is a dumb thing to say.
And now you claim I'm a Satanist - following the mythical villain of your story book. The invisible villain your invisible hero saves you from. Classic.
@Flash02021990 "what if your wrong what if there is a God "
Like I just said, I don't know if there's REAL God(s). What I do know is your God, the bible, the quran, the vedas, the illiad, and every other book claiming to be "words of the only real God(s)" are provably full of complete non-sense and outright lies.
Your religion sells you want you want to believe. Just like all religions. Playing God(s) in the absence of any REAL ones.
@Flash02021990 You claim I'm arrogant. Get this straight : YOU are the one claiming to have the answers. YOU are the one claiming to "have the only TRUE religion about the one TRUE God out of millions!". YOU claim to have all the answers. "my God dun it!"
I on the other hand, freely and often admit - I DO NOT KNOW the meaning of life, or if there are real God(s).
What I do know - is the bible is fiction that causes far more harm than good. Dark Ages dude. Remember?
@Flash02021990 So, a commentary video, that sells illogical, unsubstantiated assumption as "intelligence" is suppose to educate me on science? No thank you.
If you want to claim "biochemists claim god is real" - you might want to actually look into that first, and find out the overwhelming majority of biology-related professionals understand evolution just fine and do not believe in your, or any concept other than "creative force" of god(s).
@Flash02021990 (CONT) (2) Your statement "...comes from an intelligent being." is also an assumption. Even if we find out that the mechanics of evolution began supernaturally, why do you assume one and not dozens, or millions?
To claim JW is "the only true religion" is the same claim as all 36,000+ Christian sects, and the 100s of other religions and their 10000s of individual sects.
You all tell yourselves - on faith - that you're the only ones not full of shit.
@Flash02021990 "trust me but you will see it with your own eyes. dna is a language of codes those codes carry out information and the source to compose codes of information comes from an intelligent being."
(1) Studying DNA does not bear this assumption out. We know that much of our human genetic code is dormant - remnants of our common ancestry with all other life on the planet. We fit perfectly in the evolutionary branching "tree of life" with all other living things.
@Flash02021990 (CONT) Specifically to JWs, according to it's primary founder, Russell taught that starting in October 1914, the world society would be replaced by the full establishment of God's kingdom on earth.
It's been 100 years, shitloads of wars, and we're no where closer to his claims.
JW's have been claiming "we're in the last days" for almost 100 years now. No different than every other theistic cult that claims "The end is coming! Join now or be tortured forever!"
@Flash02021990 "when i speak of it is on the basis of other religions who confuse many. they have these beliefs that seem quite dumb."
Read the bible cover to cover. It's filled with some of the most dumbest, sadistic crap imaginable. A talking snake cons a naked women to eat and apple, so a god had to brutally murder his son? And if we believe this non-sense, we go to a magic happy place...but if we don't we're tortured for eternity?
#2 All Christians do share several common beliefs. That's not a stereotype.
#3 "I can proove to you a creator is real scientifically sir " If a creator could be proven scientifically, science would be saying so. But by all means, prove to me there is a creator.
@TheHigherVoltage hi may I jump in here? The Bible explains that God has an appointed time in which he will act. He will not stand for the extensive and expansive injustices that go on each minute in this world for too much longer.
God has a point to make first and that is: God is the only one who can perfectly rule over the earth.
Satan challenged this claiming we did not need God.
God has allowed time to pass to show it painfully clear- we do need Him.
@xerriasinsherry The bible is a collection of godcult fiction used by people to control others. No different than every other godcult. For 1400+ years, the Western World was ruled with brutality, torture and murders - by Christianity - in the name of Jesus. The source of injustices were Christians claiming to work/hear/act for your God - who did nothing to correct his most devout followers.
Your God doesn't exist. You might as well be worshiping Zeus and Thor.
@TheHigherVoltage I'm interested in why you're quite passionate about what you believe. Because even if you don't believe in God -any God per say- you still have faith- just a different faith. You have faith that this is no God, or faith that there is no true belief. It seems that perhaps you personally were mistreated or something... I have always desperately struggled to be a JW- esp. with a lot of the phrases and terminology they use...but overall it's united and moving forward..
@xerriasinsherry I don't know if there's real God(s), and I don't take leaps of faith to convince myself I know something I don't. What I do know is biblegod is no more a real God than qurangod, vedasgod, illiadgod, and every other godcult candidate claiming their non-sense is real.
This is debatable isn't it...as there are archaeological finds- even tablets from the old testament have been found!
You're absolutely right about Christians claiming to work/hear/act for God & hypocrisy - but not JWs- maybe you're putting all Christians into one bundle. The Roman Catholic Church for example was a mighty power back in Galileo's time, they even upheld much of Plato's philosophies - which of course were not God's.
@xerriasinsherry "You're absolutely right about Christians claiming to work/hear/act for God & hypocrisy - but not JWs- maybe you're putting all Christians into one bundle."
There's 36000+ Christian sects all claiming they're the only ones who 'aren't in the bundle'; they're the only ones who channel "the real God"; they're the only ones not playing make believe. Then there's thousands of other religions, with millions of their various sects, all demanding they're somehow different too.
We should disregard the bible's warning of god's wrath—on a corrupt world and instead —live our lives freely? Live our lives dependent on anemic man-made governments, who failed to alleviate society's woes? And why would you say: "brutal murder of billions of people" Do you even understand why god sent his son to die for our sins? I guess your paradise is now, enjoy!!
The plausebillety of everything that exists, ever existed and will be to happen I believe is 1 out of 1 with all factors included. Most factors that really are and predicting/grasping order - future of the are to us are simply not yet gasped by us and then called chaos and randomness or not even acklowlwdged. It's perhaps more than we can and more than anyone yet have fully grasped. Free will would be an advanced type of synergy of functions of the body hard to fully mastering in prediction.
It saddens me that my parents are caught in the JW cult, it's disturbing to think that they actually look forward to the day when their 'god' will murder me and everyone else who doesn't agree with them. And they'll be happily scraping my dead body up because they're on paradise now. *facepalms*
@MagusAnima Let me ask you something: What would you rather have, the world as it is now or the promised kingdom of god? And whats with: "God will murder me and everyone who doesn't agree". Do you live by the 10 commandments? Again, did you understand why jesus died for our sins? Or do you think he died "just because" end of story. God demands devotion—just like any personal relationship. Being good is not going to cut it. Going to church on sundays and singing kumbaya will not win you points.
I liked your bit about the chances that each one of us exits as we are. Someone once tried to use that as an argument for god since they got me to admit that my parents where on every for of birth-control known to man at the time. I just laughed and told them it was me handing fate it's ass before I was even born.
Of course it is a selfishness thing. All theism is. The only reason that theists adhere to "god's law" is because of the perceived punishment. They don't do good for the sake of doing it but because they think it but because of promised rewards. These are the same people who tell us morality comes from god. Yet I have met with more kindness, understanding, love and goodwill from atheists than I ever did in my many years as a theist.
According to the Vatican a miracle consist of something that defies the natural laws (such as gravity). They recieve millions of reports of miracles every year, and so far only a handful has been recognized by them as true miracles trhoughout the years.
A wonderful young woman and a voice of reason in a superstitious world. If there were more people like her we wouldn't have half the problems in society - primarily caused by religious fundamentalists. I only hope that one day we are rid of the scourge that is religious fundamentalism.
Why are people so dumb as to think Christianity is a religion? Why aren't people smart enough to read the bible and find out for themselves? Why are people such cowards in their religious beliefs? Why do people see lies as truth and truth as lies? I'll tell you why: because people will do anything to oppose God.
@psycofloyd "Why are people so dumb as to think Christianity is a religion? Why aren't people smart enough to read the bible and find out for themselves?"
You're right. I hardly ever categorize Christianity as a religion. I usually put it in the "Cult" category. And I came to that conclusion by reading the bible and reading what the cult leader Jesus preached.
But you go ahead. Drink the Kool Aid. I hear it's absolutely refreshing.
All religions are just some form of belief, and all are flawed, but everyone of them believe in a higher being and if you paid a attention to any part of history or a sience class they coincide with any bible when looking for truth. Then again from my point of view we see how whites get away with murder and blacks get life in prison or whites killings wholes races for greed of the land so who murder is justified gods or the governments when it only lies and cover the truth, religion bring it out
GOD SAYS HE HAS A SON.Jesus said he's God's Son-Matthew 3:17,Mark 9:7,Psalms 2:7,Luke 9:35,Prov.8:22.DEMONS,expelled said he's Son of God-Luke 4:41.Matt.8:29, Mark3:11.Others said he's Son-John1:14,49,3:17,5:18,36,6:46,10:36,Mark15:39,Matthew 26:63,27:40. Hebrews10:29,4:14.An angel said he's Son-Luke1:35.Jehovah God is Jesus' God-John15:1,16:3,30,20:17, Matt.26:26,36-44,64,Mark15:34,Ephesians1:17.Son=Mediator-1Timothy 2:5,Heb.1:3,4,8:6,9:15,12:24, Romans1:4,8,9,Acts7:55,56.
After leaving the JW Doomsday cult and after overdosing on freedom, I started studying the bible more carefully looking for truth and direction. I attended several different Christian sects and in the course of my online research, I came across the FFRF website. Dan Barkers writtings shocked me. I knew there was some filthy scriptures, but he made sense. After reading "Losing Faith In Faith", I knew he was right, I knew I was right, but never listen to myself. I told myself, I told you so!
@AsskickinSasquatch I target all religions and I've never been a religious person at all. You don't need to have experience with theism in order to learn about different religions and speak out against them.
@YearningForHonesty she's taking exactly what she learned from JW, She is only one of many people on youtube describing how JW is a cult, i find it odd that so many ex JW suffer so much from their indoctrination.
@YearningForHonesty she's taking it out of context? isn't that what every religion does anyways? JWs are no more correct than Christians, Buddhists, Mormons, Muslims. they all believe the same crap they were told from others. Your bible depicts great miracles of healing and resurrections, well if your God is real, why don't I see that today? & don't tell me its because I don't have faith, because that is preposterous, I could just as easily say i need faith in my Cat 2 heal & redeem me.
@vba4accountants You would know if you had studied the bible. Assuming that there is no God because you don't see people get healed anymore is an ignorant assumption. No offence, but one of the things I have noticed when talking to people who raise certain arguments against the bible, is that a lot of those people often simply don't know what the bible has to say.
PS, have you studied the bible or are you counting on things you have heard here and there being correct?
@YearningForHonesty I've read the bible in it's entirety, I know all the stories from Adam and Eve, to the Jews wondering and leaving Egypt in Exodus, to them taking over the promise land, to the rise of King Saul anointed by Samuel and his death, To King David's reign, the the exile of the Jews by the Babylonians, to Jesus' preaching and death, to the acts of the apostles. I know all the miracles claimed by the bible and they are all stories to me. until something can be proved otherwise.
@YearningForHonesty and pls tell me how it is ignorant to assume no God because I don't see the miracles that the bible claims. Christians and I'm sure JW both claim that God is the Same Today, Yesterday, and forever. If God wants logical individuals to not test to find out what religion is correct, and if he can't prove it to me, then how can a religion like JW claim they are the only ones to be redeemed, just like the museums and Christians believe the same thing?
@vba4accountants You don't seem to be looking for answers. You seem to be looking for confirmation on your current conclusion. With that attitude, it's not a matter of the evidence I give you. I have spoken to people and told them many reasons why it's more reasonable to believe there is a God and also spoke to them about evidence. It's not simply about evidence. No matter how much evidence I give you, it won't make you believe in God unless you're personally involved in religious activities.
@vba4accountants Also, JW's don't believe that they're the only ones who will be redeemed. I would explain more about this, but preferably in a more direct form of communication like MSN or something. If you would like to talk about this more, please send me a private message with your email so I can add you.
PS, In case I offended you, I'm sorry. That wasn't my intention.
@YearningForHonesty Okay then do JW believe the extremely religious Muslims, Hindu, and Buddhists will be "redeemed"? Is a poor extremely religious Muslim mother that prayed to Allah ever day and never hurt a soul on earth going to be killed in Armageddon? What about this nice lady that is considred an apostate because she consciously did not feel JW was right in their teachings, will she get slaughtered in Armageddon because she stood up for her belief?
@vba4accountants If you care to talk more, please send me a private message with your email address so we can have a more direct form of communication.
@YearningForHonesty why, do you think u can convert me to a religion that receives all its messages and literature by a governing body in NY that is "Ordained by Jesus" that makes false predictions about when Armageddon will occur and so I can be told I must stay away from apostates and those that speak bad against JW, where they indoctrinate children at young ages and when they become adults they question JW and don't receive answers so they leave and their OWN family Shuns them. NO THANKS
@vba4accountants You really seem just looking for confirmation of your already drawn negative conclusions. And no. I'm not trying to convert you. I'm not even a Jehovah's Witness. I do know quite a bit about them though.
It does bother me when people think bad of them, because it's often based of ignorant assumptions (no offence).
If you look on the internet for information about JW's, you will run into a lot of wrong information.
@YearningForHonesty Of the people who had negative thoughts on them before even having had a bible study with them or just an in-depth talk, the ones who did eventually seek interaction with them to see if what they thought of JW's was correct, they would often change their minds.
Acutally, this journalist had bad thoughts on them. She got her information from the internet. She had an interview with them and she was really surprised at how wrong she was about them.
@vba4accountants So if we talk, what have you got to lose? All you have is information/knowledge to gain on JW's and the bible. If I'm the one that is completely on the wrong path, talk to me, please. If you can change my mind, that would mean you opened my eyes and I would be grateful for that. So in the end, you can gain knowledge and you might 'free' me. That would be a good deed of you to do so if you would change my mind.
Again, the things I have said have no offensive intentions.
To lose belief in God is a tragedy. What one consider a deliverance when becoming an atheist is delusional in itself. Atheism merely asserts the Bible's words that man leads another man to his own destruction. Most world leaders are at best nominally religious, so we're at a mess. God is not delighted at the destruction the wicked. He was even regretful--not repentant--of peoples' death in the Flood during they days of Noah--far from being the Hitler-like figure you wish to portray.
@Biblehastheanswer its amazing it seems the same im not reading the bible but indeed you giving me a details, im deeply religious non-believer, maybe you must probably follow your favorites let those men enlighten your word my friend, ok take good care and God bless us....................
@macky888888 Yes friend please do check out my page on here and look at the other side of the coin. Sorry if I come off too strong. Something I got to pray about and work on. I really do pray you find Yahushua the messiah. Let his words speak to your soul. Luke is great to start off with because it focuses on his humanity. John focuses on his divinity. The greatest love story ever told is our creator entering his creation, laying his life down for us so that we might be reconciled to him.
So it looks like we are wrapping it up here folks. The world is paving the way to a new world leader. These are just facts. At some point and time, this image of Jesus you have above (aka the Anti-Christ) is going to show up on the scene showing his "as above, so below" satanic hand gesture promising that the Bible was all wrong and that you too can be gods like them if you just "evolve." It's coming. It's prophecy all foretold for us if we just look.
Why don,t just hear it? see it? instead be judgemental for it?
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23lilone32 1 month ago
Religious people including JW's in 'look forward to the brutal murder of billions?'Btw the allies didn't fight the Nazi's to free the Jew's! They were in fact surprised to find the atrocities! You make great points against religion,but you can make points without exaggerating.I just find so many historical but common retrospective distortion of reality regarding Nazi Germany!There are many more exaggerations.Did you free yourself from one form of propaganda to enslave yourself to your own?
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As an ex JW I share you're disgust for all religion and clearly recognize it's destructiveness. I find you put off on current JW victims, what the WT is responsible for and yet you neglected to make any distinction. I had plenty of non JW relatives and never felt so morbid as you described!... We at least we 'were' victims and yet you now demonize current victims?..This goes out in a public forum. You believed it as well as I. be more responsible about not demonizing victims such as we were.
drewmayer13 1 month ago
Well said.
ibrokemyfingerbowlin 1 month ago
Interesting, that is not what Jesus taught, you left out the anti-Christ factor, evolve-who told you that? Hey, I wonder why people dont get along, well I guess we will see, sad when people speak and dont understand, why feel sad, your feelings as you put it is just vain, your whole speech is an oxymoron speech, how can someone who believes in NOTHING preach? Live your life and quit worrying about other people, hold on here some better advice-Repent-kingdom of Heaven is at hand-God bless
soopinionthoughts300 2 months ago
@soopinionthoughts300 You don't choose to believe something, it is something in your whole being that tells you to believe it. She's speaking because she believes that this is wrong. And I do recall that Einstein was an Atheist...would you say he had no right to 'preach' his scientific theories and math equations? No...but why would you let someone preach about how everyone else is going to suffer(more) because they don't believe the same things you do? It's just wrong.
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@Roxas131413 hmm you speaking for her? I ask a question, she put herself out there, so If I come to a debate with firsthand knowledge, I am wrong? Hey read what you want, but why add the religious spice? Meaning in the BIBLE the New testament Jesus warn on people using religion to get whatever they want from people(hypocrite) but he say judge people on their action for example the(pharisees) thats why I said thats not what Jesus taught, stop listening to hypocrites, hey its advice
soopinionthoughts300 1 month ago
@soopinionthoughts300 I am not speaking for her, no, that was my thoughts on your comment.
I do believe humans have royally screwed religion up. It would be better if everyone just...got along and helped people instead of condemn them. Hypocrites...there are too many. =/
She probably worries because people seriously believe everyone who doesn't see their way is going to be in eternal pain, I have a bunch of watchtower stuff that says people who don't go by God will suffer.
Roxas131413 1 month ago
@Roxas131413 you just described God's will, and thats why people suffer
soopinionthoughts300 1 month ago
@soopinionthoughts300 His will is to make everyone who doesn't think he is real and holy suffer?
Roxas131413 1 month ago
@Roxas131413 what is holy? some people dont have good reading comprehension! See thats why I said read as an advice, Jesus stayed around sinners, so what is sinner, the Army takes all type of people and belief, but one of the Army main value is to do right in the absent of direct authority, aint that what Jesus preach? It is so simple and yall make it hard, Jesus said to treat others like you want to be treated
soopinionthoughts300 1 month ago
@soopinionthoughts300 @Roxas, what your saying is what Jesus is saying, except Jesus acknowledge the spirit that holds his body up, life, without life in trees, animals, and even the natural bacteria thats on your body you have nothing, so he is thankful, Jesus loved everybody even Judas, even that sinner that died on the cross with him, In the movie Roots Kunta spirit was broke to call himself Toby, but Jesus forgave and didnt break his spirit when they beat him
soopinionthoughts300 1 month ago
@Roxas131413 all in all Jesus is sadden by religion also
soopinionthoughts300 1 month ago
@soopinionthoughts300 I bet he is.
Anyway, are you saying I'm religious?
Roxas131413 1 month ago
@Roxas131413 yep, your belief is not to believe, you fight for your belief just as any other religious person, being an adult, I ask what makes you different? A lot of people dont read the bible but make a debate about how bad it is, thats like me saying the island is a terrible place to be and cant understand why people love to go there, getting bit by sharks and jelly fish but I never been to the island in my whole life, its my opinion but people would just say I'm silly
soopinionthoughts300 1 month ago
@soopinionthoughts300 I fight for the ignorant religious people to stop hurting others, all they've done is destroy and harm, and make people ignorant. I have read enough of the Bible to know that no omnipotent God wrote it or gave those men visions of what he wanted them to write, they just made up a control source, and it's worked for centuries. I am religious when it comes to other people telling me I'm going to suffer for eternity just because I love my girlfriend. No.
Roxas131413 1 month ago
@Roxas131413 Hey I hear you, listening to other people as you stated, hey thats you, let me keep it simple, treat others how you want to be treated, wow thats hard, cause what your suggesting go against it nothing wrong with bully-ing, do as you feel, hmmm there sociopaths, pedophiles, and serial killers, they are not religious, anyway this is going nowhere I wish you the best to believe or not it is your choice, God bless
soopinionthoughts300 1 month ago
@soopinionthoughts300 I did not choose to love my parents, and I do not choose to love anyone else. Yeah, nyan cat bless you too.
Roxas131413 1 month ago
you are right most religion are no more then just a doom day cult that went mainstream
LODZ61261 2 months ago
NEXT TIME YOU WALK OUT YOUR DOOR LOOK TO THE SKY AND ALL YOUR DOUBTS IF GOD IS REAL OR NOT SHOULD BE ANSWERED! GOD BLESS
ul2356 2 months ago
@ul2356 No. The sky is mostly oxygen and nitrogen gas, with increasing amounts of carbon dioxide. There are 3 rock planets in our solar systems that each have a sky, (gassy atmosphere). There are 4 planets that are nothing but sky (Gas Giants). None of this proves the existence of any gods. It just proves gravity, electromagnetic force, and the existence of elements. And don't respond with "Well 'who' made all those things." Because no "who" made any of it. "Who's" didn't exist back then.
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Everyone one the earth...?? Well he is not the John 3:16-18 says he sent his son to save the world..... but the sad thing is many ppl rather live for their sins the for what God has wants to give them... I mean jus thing about it... everything from the old to the new testiment why did God do what he had to.. for fun or did you jus read a verse or two and made your conclusion there is more the what you kno and if you ever really sat down and read every book every world you would really know who
23lilone32 2 months ago
@23lilone32 The untampered word of GOD is written on every heart so I dont waste my time or take any chances reading it nowhere else! and if you believe in the bible that is written in Hebrews 8:10 it reads "I GOD HAVE WRITTEN MY WORD ON EVERY HEART AND MY LAWS ON EVERY MIND THEREFORE NO NEIGHBOR NOR RELATIVE CAN SAY TO ONE ANOTHER YOU OUGHT TO KNOW GOD BECAUSE I HAVE WRITTEN MY WORD ON EVERY HEART" GOD BLESS
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@ul2356 well for our guidance because in John 1: 1-5 it says that in the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God so when we accept Jesus in our lives for real and not just say oh yea i believe in God, then thats when the covenant God promises come true in our lives and for that to happen you need to have a true relationship with God not just on Sundays but your whole life, this is also why you find many ppl not really committed cause all they have is religion
23lilone32 1 month ago
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23lilone32 2 months ago
You may say but why would he do that if he love??? But the thing is you, me and everyone on this earth is a sinner God loves us but hate our sins therefore a prise needs to be paid someone with out sin had to pay that prise... the Bible says he looked and looked but couldn't find one rightous that's why he sent his son the sin is in our flesh so it had to be a someone in flesh and not in spirit that needed to die.... I guess you kno all this... but you thinking is why is God trying to kill
23lilone32 2 months ago
Wow it sad to know that the devil can fool a person and blind them from truth.... the thing is many ppl have jus that a religion but never an actual relationship with God we say if God is love and good how can there be so much tragedy in this world, and the thing is if God loves he must hate you can't say I love children and be for abortion that would be Hipparchus to say such a thing.... God love what is Good and hates what is evil.... the Bible tells us he sent his son to die for us....
23lilone32 2 months ago
LISTEN UP YOU GOOD CHRISTIANS AND ALL ABRAHAMIC FAITHS
4403forsaftey 2 months ago
I always go deep on my comments, but yeah religions were hijacked from very early on,and the scriptures were hijacked and abused very early on. And everyone is spineless these days... our spineless "ruling class"...
But what's interesting to note...is that the "ruling class" believes very much in this whole God topic, so whether you believe or not...There is a very abusive power that controls the world and we need to expose everyone because our futures depend on it. Follow world affairs
JahElJah 3 months ago
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Moxie I love your videos, but I'm against your science lol. I guess if you are regurgitating textbook definitions then yes everything is random... but the Universe is infinite so it's inevitable to be in the state we are in...but for us to be here talking about it...that is truly the beautiful thing about it all...that we were lucky enough to be a part of it all.
So what is the purpose of life? To live according to the Universes will. Now learn how...
JahElJah 3 months ago
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JahElJah 3 months ago
I would encourage you to publish your book instead of reading it for free. There wwas once a man who killed himseld beacuse he could not publish his book, bthis mom published it and now it is a bestseller. don't give up hope.
DamionCrane 3 months ago
"Perhaps religion is evolution's kryptonite, and that it's not only slowing our cognitive development, but actually retarding it?"
WTF?
Are you taking the first as a given? What evidence do you have for this claim? If every trait we have is adaptive, wouldn't evolution be responsible for giving us the capacity for religious belief in the first place? "Cognitive development" towards what, exactly? Isn't the endgame of evolution just brute-force survival, not intellectual or moral progress?
stallion4life 3 months ago
Instead of coming to your own conclusions based upon limited knowledge of how the bible works, why don't you people who think it's all made up, take a proper adult look at it? Too scared of what you'll find out? That's the main reason why people avoid (not all thank goodness) it, because it represents CHANGING YOUR LIFESTYLE, and you are all too self centred for that!. You don't want to give up your habits. Let alone learn how to be better.
queue555 4 months ago
@queue555 I like the parts in the bible where God has has people stoned, genocide, kill babies and have crazy sex. I love reading the bible ;-)
SpecialPioneerSmerf 3 months ago
WHAT does this woman think christendom teaches? Hellfire. Isn't that worse?. Permanent torture? The JW's are the only ones to point out Hell isn't where we go!. Sorry if you can't accept what the bible says, maybe you'd like paodophiles, murderers, rapists to come into the new world would you?. God has always had a consequence, but gives an option. Deal with it like the JW's are! You're deluded!!
queue555 4 months ago
@queue555
"Sorry if you can't accept what the bible says, maybe you'd like paodophiles, murderers, rapists to come into the new world would you?. You're deluded!!"
With statements like that you're just as deluded as the Jehovah's witnesses.
The bible is bullshit.
Pigdowndog 4 months ago
@Pigdowndog you don't know anything. go away unless you want to know.
queue555 4 months ago
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@queue555
"you don't know anything."
That's rather a sweeping statement.
"go away unless you want to know."
I'll stick around so that you can "educate" me.
Do your best. Tell me why the bible isn't bullshit.
Good luck with that.
Pigdowndog 4 months ago
@Pigdowndog You don't know what you're talking about. clueless. i ve heard this kind of ignorance so many times before. You know why? because that isn't what is going to happen in the new world, this is ."PS 37 11. "But the meek ones themselves will possess the earth, and they will indeed find their exquisite delight in the abundance of peace. PS 37 20. "For the wicked themselves will perish'. Does that sound like what you said?. There's plenty more where that came from too!! Dont be so negative
queue555 3 months ago
@queue555
" i ve heard this kind of ignorance so many times before"
Every time you speak
" because that isn't what is going to happen in the new world,"
You know this how?
Bible quotations mean nothing.
Lastly, you sound like a loon.
Pigdowndog 3 months ago
@Pigdowndog No, i'm not a loon, don't know what a loon is. Bible quotations don't mean anything 'to you' yet, because you don't understand it. I hope one day you'll take a look, don't go through life with the blinders on thinking you know it all. You know why?! here's another one for ya!! "Trust in God with all your heart and do not lean upon your own understanding'.PR 3.5 PR6 "In all your ways take notice of him, and he himslef will make your paths straight'.
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Pigdowndog 3 months ago
@queue555
"Bible quotations don't mean anything 'to you' yet, because you don't understand it."
I certainly do understand the bible because I have read it. It's nonsense from cover to cover.
"Trust in God with all your heart"
I wouldn't trust such an evil disgusting creature such as the god of your bible.
Thankfully he doesn't exist
Pigdowndog 3 months ago
@Pigdowndog 68 yrs old and still nothing?. I know you havn't read the bible cover to cover, that is just a lie. Show me your knowledge on it! YOu british will never admit when you 're wrong so i already know you're stubborn, because that's how you people over there are for one. But, I think the british in general are cold and unhygenic!. Point out something from it, and back up your claim of him not being real. We had to have come from somewhere. DNA IS VERY COMPLEX.
queue555 3 months ago
Pigdowndog 3 months ago
@Pigdowndog Yes, used to live in that awful country. Can't help but generalize, every single one i've met has turned out to be a flake, unreliable. Even ones over here. so now i stay away from them. I have long nails sorry if i miss a key. i can type 70 a minute. You are prejudiced against God. I challenge you again, to quote something, or don't you have a bible in your home?.
queue555 3 months ago
Pigdowndog 3 months ago
@Pigdowndog You're just proving my point. I was unfortunately born there in Southampton. All my family live there on that little island. You are doing the one of the typical british things, presuming you know, when you can't back it up with anything. You could if you were telling the truth. If you'd really taken in what the bible speaks of you'd be able to quote something. Present your case?. Bit like an attorney going into court without any paperwork to defend his client, kinda stupid.
queue555 3 months ago
@queue555
" If you'd really taken in what the bible speaks of you'd be able to quote something."
I can tell you the god of the bible is homophobic, racist (like you), endorses slavery, infanticidal, genocidal etc etc. It's all there in black and white and I can assure you that you do not live by it's rules. I can guarantee that statement.
There you go, you can type a proper sentence. Well done! Now all you've got to do is learn more about your particular superstition.
Pigdowndog 3 months ago
@Pigdowndog See, how you keep doing what i said you would do? You can't do it can you? Too scared to go get that bible and prove anything, you are the attorney without the paperwork, and the whole courtroom is looking at you like you're an idiot. You cannot make accusations without even trying to back up your claims! Typical brit, 'can't be bothered'. no wonder that country has lost everything. bye bye.
queue555 3 months ago
Pigdowndog 3 months ago
@Pigdowndog yes, we are. Anyway, Consider this point, and i have more. In his book Evolution: A Theory in Crisis, molecular biologist Michael Denton concluded that the theory of evolution "is more like a principle of medieval astrology than a serious scientific theory.' He also referred to Darwins evolution as on of the greatest myths of our time.
queue555 3 months ago
@queue555
Blimey! That was a change of gear. What happened to the bible argument?
Anyway, Michael Denton is a well known theist who advocates intelligent design. Intelligent design was exposed as an attempt to get creationism into your schools.
Check out the Kitzmiller v. Dover Area School District trial. The judge came to the conclusion that it wasn't scientific but just another way to introduce religion into the science class.
I'm afraid you'll have to do better than that.
Pigdowndog 3 months ago
@Pigdowndog haha! Ok, i'll dig up some more hard head. i'd still appreciate it if you would brave yourself and go get a copy of one of those bibles and show me something you find bizaree, unfair, unjust etc.
queue555 3 months ago
@queue555
"show me something you find unjust."
Try these: Genesis 7:21-23, Drowns everything on earth. Chronicles 13:15-18, God helps the men of Judah kill 500,000 fellow Israelites. Exodus 12:29, Kills all first born. Numbers 16:41-49, God kills 14,000 people for complaining that God keeps killing them. Kings 2:23-24, God has 42 children mauled by bears. Judges 11:30-39, Jephthah burns his daughter alive as an offering for God’s favor .
There's plenty more where those came from.
Pigdowndog 3 months ago
@Pigdowndog The Deluge? You find that unjust?. it happened. Are you wanting to know why as you think it was unfair?. I'll take one at time, just wanna get this straight, am i to discuss the validity of the the flood, or the reason for it?
queue555 3 months ago
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@queue555
"The Deluge? You find that unjust?. "
First let me make it clear that I don't believe the story of the Noahic flood, it's nonsense.
How do you justify killing every living thing, apart from aquatic beasts of course, om Earth?
As for the reason original sin is not good enough. It's still evil.
I'll have to respond tomorrow as I'm off down to the pub to drink some sinful beer.
Pigdowndog 3 months ago
@Pigdowndog Indeed, many highly respected scientists do not consider it unscientific to believe in an intelligent First Cause. Ont he other hand, to say that the universem, its laws & life just happened is INTELLECTUALLY UNSATIFYING.Everyday experience tells us that design especially highly sophisticated design calls for a designer.
queue555 3 months ago
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@queue555
"I think the british in general are cold and unhygenic!. "
"used to live in that awful country." "
"every single one i've met has turned out to be a flake"
"kinda stupid. "
I forgot to mention how impressed I am with your "Christian" values. Love one another!
Hmmm! Could do with a bit of brushing up there don't you think?
Pigdowndog 3 months ago
Well done!
That's all I have to say to this.
auritone 4 months ago
This is just scary, how you have read my mind and put it on Youtube. I wasn't a Jehovah's Witness, but you've got everything else on here. Retarding the Earth, one congregation at a time. >_< Ah, babies, and how they're made...
Roxas131413 5 months ago
& end of the world as in 'as we know it' - instead we will see 1 unified government ruling over entire globe. A govt. that is not corrupt, or greedy but a govt. that is just, fair, loving, generous, kind. A govt. that wants nothing but 2 rule over God fearing loving people.
Revelation 21:4 "And he will wipe out every tear from their eyes, and death will be no more, neither will mourning nor outcry nor pain be any more. The former things have passed away."
Personally, I feel that HAS to be it?
xerriasinsherry 5 months ago
@xerriasinsherry (CONT) "God is only angry at things such as violence, injustice, inequality, racism -anything that causes pain to/for his creation- us."
What non-sense. Your imaginary God, and specifically the delusional people who believe they serve it, has proven themselves a primary source of the violence, injustice, inequality and racism that causes pain and suffering on our planet.
Your God is a creation of people, who play him in the 3rd person, to rule over others. It's sickening.
TheHigherVoltage 5 months ago
@TheHigherVoltage Finally a voice of reason. Thanks for the post.
newfrontier01 5 months ago
@TheHigherVoltage You do have a point- religion certainly has been instrumental in many of the world's problems. Except...
JW's -in particular- are not politically involved; stance is neutral; do not even vote.
JW's are not involved in any element of war.
JW's are global- Matt 24:14 "witness to all nations." In fact they are soon to publish a new brochure in 500 languages- the Readers Digest publishes in 23! Surely this indicates they harbour no racial prejudices.
xerriasinsherry 5 months ago
@xerriasinsherry "they are soon to publish a new brochure in 500 languages- the Readers Digest publishes in 23! Surely this indicates they harbour no racial prejudices."
How so? The bible, what JW's point to, is published in almost every language we know of - and it's filled with racial, sexual, intellectual, and philosophical prejudices. And like all Christian sects (I'm aware of) - the doctrine of "we're the only one's good and going to heaven" - is the ultimate form of prejudice.
TheHigherVoltage 5 months ago
@TheHigherVoltage Well if your claim is true, and we are racist, then naturally we wouldn't bother taking the trouble of translating our publications into 500 languages!
Could you give me an example of some of the racial, sexual, intellectual prejudices that our publications are filled with as you say?
Philosophical is a given- as philosophy itself is a system of principles..
The bible portrays humans living on the earth forever- not living, dying, then either going to hell or heaven.
xerriasinsherry 5 months ago
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@xerriasinsherry Could you give me an example of some of the racial, sexual, intellectual prejudices that our publications are filled with as you say?
Let me give you the most obvious, and evil one : intellectual prejudice. Like all godcults, yours demands their 'church authorities' are the only ones who can read/interpret/follow their godcult's godbook correct. And of course, like all godcults, real questioning is not tolerated.
TheHigherVoltage 4 months ago
@xerriasinsherry "The bible portrays humans living on the earth forever- not living, dying, then either going to hell or heaven. "
Interpret the bible any way you like...but you might want to look into why verifiable facts prove this is non-sense. Specifically how we know our earth will be uninhabitable in less than 5 billion years - it'll never see 'forever'.
TheHigherVoltage 4 months ago
@TheHigherVoltage ah, but bible prophecy foretells that this earth- or rather civilization as we know it- will soon draw to an end, God will not let us continue to go on the way we are. Sooner than later the US will advise us of a new 'peace and security,' then religion will be turned upon and shown up for all it's involvement with many of the world's problems past +present etc...and then- God will step in. We're nearly there.
xerriasinsherry 4 months ago
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@xerriasinsherry "ah, but bible prophecy foretells that this earth- or rather civilization as we know it- will soon draw to an end."
Jesus said 'the end would come' within the generation of people he was talking to.
"God will not let us continue to go on the way we are." What non-sense. It's been almost 2000 years since Revelations was scribbled down - and still no magic sky man coming to the rescue.
TheHigherVoltage 4 months ago
@xerriasinsherry
You are exactly the type of person this woman is talking about in this video. "We're nearly there" you clowns been saying that for the longest now. You want death and destruction and the sad thing is there most likely won't be a happy ending afterwards. You believe in campfire stories plain and simple. If you weren't indoctrinated at such a young age then you wouldn't believe in all this lunacy.
Wordlaw12 4 months ago
@TheHigherVoltage also, JWs follow strictly what the bible says- & no where in the bible does it say that humans will be tormented in hell.
This is something that perhaps other Christians may have misinterpreted and have subsequently used as a form of power over people.
The bible clearly shows that God's purpose was for humans to live on earth forever in beautiful conditions. No heaven or hell afterlife was planned a wager for our actions- because we were never intended to die.
xerriasinsherry 5 months ago
con.
Bible shows God is kind- he does not want innocent to be destroyed & it is unlikely that he would do anything of such.
>Micah 7:18,19 "Who is a God like you, one pardoning error ...? He will certainly not hold onto his anger forever, for he is delighting in loving kindness, He will show us mercy..."
God is only angry at things such as violence, injustice, inequality, racism -anything that causes pain to/for his creation- us. End of the world is 2 start fresh, with people who are 'good.'
xerriasinsherry 5 months ago
con.
People who don't care about any1 except themselves 2 go.
2 Timothy 3:1-4 "In the last days critical times hard to deal with will be here. For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, self-assuming, haughty, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, disloyal, having no natural affection, not open to any agreement, slanderers, without self control, fierce, without love of goodness, betrayers, headstrong, puffed up with pride, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God."
xerriasinsherry 5 months ago
God does not want *anyone* to die as shown in:
2 Peter 3:9 > "Jehovah is not slow respecting his promise, as some people consider slowness but he is patient with you because he does not desire any to be destroyed but desires all to attain repentance."
He also is using his servants (JW') to preach and spread the message as shown in: Matthew 24:14 >" And this good news of the Kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come."
xerriasinsherry 5 months ago
' Of course there was always underlying trepidation which came from hoping that I'd done enough to be found worthy of God's salvation.'
There's never anything good enough we can do in and of ourselves to find favour with God. Only the Blood of Jesus Christ, and those justified by faith alone, with their sin under that blood, can be 'worthy' of salvation.
'BEING justified therefore by faith, let us have peace with God, through our Lord Jesus Christ:' (Romans 5:1)
MrOzanachronism 5 months ago
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@MrOzanachronism "There's never anything good enough we can do in and of ourselves to find favour with God."
Your God is not real. He's the creation of a man-made, man-run cult that trains people to be self-loathing sycophants clinging to religious authorities, who play their imaginary overlord in the 3rd person.
It's so sad people are willing to demean themselves with this sadistic non-sense - instead of questioning it.
TheHigherVoltage 5 months ago
Well done. People of all religions should stop and think about this.
evadnie100 5 months ago
@Flash02021990 You claim to be in college and this is the garbage you spew. You're pathetic.
TheHigherVoltage 5 months ago
@Flash02021990 I have no sympathy for comic book characters, or the people who refuse to admit they aren't real.
TheHigherVoltage 5 months ago
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@Flash02021990 "what if my religion never goes to war for no government. what if we have proof of a God...even if it sounds dumb when i say it"
Yes, it does sound dumb when you say it...because it is a dumb thing to say.
And now you claim I'm a Satanist - following the mythical villain of your story book. The invisible villain your invisible hero saves you from. Classic.
TheHigherVoltage 5 months ago
@Flash02021990 "what if your wrong what if there is a God "
Like I just said, I don't know if there's REAL God(s). What I do know is your God, the bible, the quran, the vedas, the illiad, and every other book claiming to be "words of the only real God(s)" are provably full of complete non-sense and outright lies.
Your religion sells you want you want to believe. Just like all religions. Playing God(s) in the absence of any REAL ones.
TheHigherVoltage 5 months ago
@Flash02021990 If you're done with the condescending name-calling, let's find out where you stand.
Is the world thousands of years old or billions?
Is life thousands of years old or billions?
Do you understand the mechanics of evolution are predictable, reproducible, and most importantly, falsifiable?
Do you believe you, and the cult you belong to, are closer to a real God than every other human on the planet?
Where is your Christianity at?
TheHigherVoltage 5 months ago
@Flash02021990 You claim I'm arrogant. Get this straight : YOU are the one claiming to have the answers. YOU are the one claiming to "have the only TRUE religion about the one TRUE God out of millions!". YOU claim to have all the answers. "my God dun it!"
I on the other hand, freely and often admit - I DO NOT KNOW the meaning of life, or if there are real God(s).
What I do know - is the bible is fiction that causes far more harm than good. Dark Ages dude. Remember?
TheHigherVoltage 5 months ago
@Flash02021990 So, a commentary video, that sells illogical, unsubstantiated assumption as "intelligence" is suppose to educate me on science? No thank you.
If you want to claim "biochemists claim god is real" - you might want to actually look into that first, and find out the overwhelming majority of biology-related professionals understand evolution just fine and do not believe in your, or any concept other than "creative force" of god(s).
Life/our universe isn't "a miracle". It's math.
TheHigherVoltage 5 months ago
@Flash02021990 (CONT) (2) Your statement "...comes from an intelligent being." is also an assumption. Even if we find out that the mechanics of evolution began supernaturally, why do you assume one and not dozens, or millions?
To claim JW is "the only true religion" is the same claim as all 36,000+ Christian sects, and the 100s of other religions and their 10000s of individual sects.
You all tell yourselves - on faith - that you're the only ones not full of shit.
TheHigherVoltage 5 months ago
@Flash02021990 "trust me but you will see it with your own eyes. dna is a language of codes those codes carry out information and the source to compose codes of information comes from an intelligent being."
(1) Studying DNA does not bear this assumption out. We know that much of our human genetic code is dormant - remnants of our common ancestry with all other life on the planet. We fit perfectly in the evolutionary branching "tree of life" with all other living things.
(CONT)
TheHigherVoltage 5 months ago
@Flash02021990 (CONT) Specifically to JWs, according to it's primary founder, Russell taught that starting in October 1914, the world society would be replaced by the full establishment of God's kingdom on earth.
It's been 100 years, shitloads of wars, and we're no where closer to his claims.
JW's have been claiming "we're in the last days" for almost 100 years now. No different than every other theistic cult that claims "The end is coming! Join now or be tortured forever!"
TheHigherVoltage 5 months ago
@Flash02021990 "when i speak of it is on the basis of other religions who confuse many. they have these beliefs that seem quite dumb."
Read the bible cover to cover. It's filled with some of the most dumbest, sadistic crap imaginable. A talking snake cons a naked women to eat and apple, so a god had to brutally murder his son? And if we believe this non-sense, we go to a magic happy place...but if we don't we're tortured for eternity?
How is this not as dumb as every other religion?
TheHigherVoltage 5 months ago
@Flash02021990 #1 I don't think I know it all.
#2 All Christians do share several common beliefs. That's not a stereotype.
#3 "I can proove to you a creator is real scientifically sir " If a creator could be proven scientifically, science would be saying so. But by all means, prove to me there is a creator.
TheHigherVoltage 5 months ago
@Flash02021990 "...because they do not think God would take part of such torture."
Standing on the sidelines watching, with the ability to stop evil yet doing nothing, IS taking part.
Unfortunately though, teaching logic to a person full of faith is like trying to teach a rock how to swim.
TheHigherVoltage 5 months ago
@TheHigherVoltage hi may I jump in here? The Bible explains that God has an appointed time in which he will act. He will not stand for the extensive and expansive injustices that go on each minute in this world for too much longer.
God has a point to make first and that is: God is the only one who can perfectly rule over the earth.
Satan challenged this claiming we did not need God.
God has allowed time to pass to show it painfully clear- we do need Him.
xerriasinsherry 5 months ago
@xerriasinsherry The bible is a collection of godcult fiction used by people to control others. No different than every other godcult. For 1400+ years, the Western World was ruled with brutality, torture and murders - by Christianity - in the name of Jesus. The source of injustices were Christians claiming to work/hear/act for your God - who did nothing to correct his most devout followers.
Your God doesn't exist. You might as well be worshiping Zeus and Thor.
TheHigherVoltage 5 months ago
@TheHigherVoltage I'm interested in why you're quite passionate about what you believe. Because even if you don't believe in God -any God per say- you still have faith- just a different faith. You have faith that this is no God, or faith that there is no true belief. It seems that perhaps you personally were mistreated or something... I have always desperately struggled to be a JW- esp. with a lot of the phrases and terminology they use...but overall it's united and moving forward..
xerriasinsherry 5 months ago
@xerriasinsherry I don't know if there's real God(s), and I don't take leaps of faith to convince myself I know something I don't. What I do know is biblegod is no more a real God than qurangod, vedasgod, illiadgod, and every other godcult candidate claiming their non-sense is real.
TheHigherVoltage 4 months ago
@TheHigherVoltage also...re: the bible being fiction
This is debatable isn't it...as there are archaeological finds- even tablets from the old testament have been found!
You're absolutely right about Christians claiming to work/hear/act for God & hypocrisy - but not JWs- maybe you're putting all Christians into one bundle. The Roman Catholic Church for example was a mighty power back in Galileo's time, they even upheld much of Plato's philosophies - which of course were not God's.
xerriasinsherry 5 months ago
@xerriasinsherry "You're absolutely right about Christians claiming to work/hear/act for God & hypocrisy - but not JWs- maybe you're putting all Christians into one bundle."
There's 36000+ Christian sects all claiming they're the only ones who 'aren't in the bundle'; they're the only ones who channel "the real God"; they're the only ones not playing make believe. Then there's thousands of other religions, with millions of their various sects, all demanding they're somehow different too.
TheHigherVoltage 4 months ago
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We should disregard the bible's warning of god's wrath—on a corrupt world and instead —live our lives freely? Live our lives dependent on anemic man-made governments, who failed to alleviate society's woes? And why would you say: "brutal murder of billions of people" Do you even understand why god sent his son to die for our sins? I guess your paradise is now, enjoy!!
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"ultimately wasting the only life they ever have - a life won fair and square in the face of ridiculous odds."
Mind = blown.
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CAPONESPADAS 5 months ago
This has given me a lot to think about, I never looked at the odds of existance like that before... Thank you so much :)
dragonforks93 5 months ago
The plausebillety of everything that exists, ever existed and will be to happen I believe is 1 out of 1 with all factors included. Most factors that really are and predicting/grasping order - future of the are to us are simply not yet gasped by us and then called chaos and randomness or not even acklowlwdged. It's perhaps more than we can and more than anyone yet have fully grasped. Free will would be an advanced type of synergy of functions of the body hard to fully mastering in prediction.
SaerdnaOoOoo 5 months ago
I enjoyed your video :)
It saddens me that my parents are caught in the JW cult, it's disturbing to think that they actually look forward to the day when their 'god' will murder me and everyone else who doesn't agree with them. And they'll be happily scraping my dead body up because they're on paradise now. *facepalms*
Such a waste of their whole lives. :(
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@MagusAnima Let me ask you something: What would you rather have, the world as it is now or the promised kingdom of god? And whats with: "God will murder me and everyone who doesn't agree". Do you live by the 10 commandments? Again, did you understand why jesus died for our sins? Or do you think he died "just because" end of story. God demands devotion—just like any personal relationship. Being good is not going to cut it. Going to church on sundays and singing kumbaya will not win you points.
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@CAPONESPADAS "What would you rather have, the world as it is now or the promised kingdom of god?"
Personally, I'll take the world the way it is today compared to how it was under Christian rule.
TheHigherVoltage 5 months ago
Damn it! This is pretty much the video i was planning on making.
Though you put it wonderfully and better than i would. great video. definitely subbed!
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CircusOfBedlam 6 months ago
I liked your bit about the chances that each one of us exits as we are. Someone once tried to use that as an argument for god since they got me to admit that my parents where on every for of birth-control known to man at the time. I just laughed and told them it was me handing fate it's ass before I was even born.
Zoten001 6 months ago
Of course it is a selfishness thing. All theism is. The only reason that theists adhere to "god's law" is because of the perceived punishment. They don't do good for the sake of doing it but because they think it but because of promised rewards. These are the same people who tell us morality comes from god. Yet I have met with more kindness, understanding, love and goodwill from atheists than I ever did in my many years as a theist.
ThomasTrue 6 months ago
An intelligent an well articulated post.
newfrontier01 6 months ago
It depends on your view.
According to the Vatican a miracle consist of something that defies the natural laws (such as gravity). They recieve millions of reports of miracles every year, and so far only a handful has been recognized by them as true miracles trhoughout the years.
lunda2222 6 months ago
Straight to my Favorites and you have a new sub. Great video, thanks for sharing.
XandarsMeteor 6 months ago
Absolutely brilliant
Nathangoldstein2 6 months ago
A wonderful young woman and a voice of reason in a superstitious world. If there were more people like her we wouldn't have half the problems in society - primarily caused by religious fundamentalists. I only hope that one day we are rid of the scourge that is religious fundamentalism.
wjl1970 6 months ago
Ur an apostate
a1skyline 6 months ago
Why are people so dumb as to think Christianity is a religion? Why aren't people smart enough to read the bible and find out for themselves? Why are people such cowards in their religious beliefs? Why do people see lies as truth and truth as lies? I'll tell you why: because people will do anything to oppose God.
Romans 14:11
psycofloyd 6 months ago
@psycofloyd "Why are people so dumb as to think Christianity is a religion? Why aren't people smart enough to read the bible and find out for themselves?"
You're right. I hardly ever categorize Christianity as a religion. I usually put it in the "Cult" category. And I came to that conclusion by reading the bible and reading what the cult leader Jesus preached.
But you go ahead. Drink the Kool Aid. I hear it's absolutely refreshing.
tommy605 6 months ago
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@tommy605 Kool aid? You must not know what it takes to be a Christian. Read the Bible then form an opinion.
psycofloyd 6 months ago
@psycofloyd Yeah,well,that's just,like,your opinion,man.
The Big Lebowski, 28:52
warpedwiselegoman 6 months ago
@warpedwiselegoman No its God's standard that you do nothing to adhere to. You will one day. I just hope it isn't too late.
psycofloyd 6 months ago
@psycofloyd oh pull the broomstick out of yer ass,lighten up!
warpedwiselegoman 6 months ago
All religions are just some form of belief, and all are flawed, but everyone of them believe in a higher being and if you paid a attention to any part of history or a sience class they coincide with any bible when looking for truth. Then again from my point of view we see how whites get away with murder and blacks get life in prison or whites killings wholes races for greed of the land so who murder is justified gods or the governments when it only lies and cover the truth, religion bring it out
Erica06011982 6 months ago
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GOD SAYS HE HAS A SON.Jesus said he's God's Son-Matthew 3:17,Mark 9:7,Psalms 2:7,Luke 9:35,Prov.8:22.DEMONS,expelled said he's Son of God-Luke 4:41.Matt.8:29, Mark3:11.Others said he's Son-John1:14,49,3:17,5:18,36,6:46,10:36,Mark15:39,Matthew 26:63,27:40. Hebrews10:29,4:14.An angel said he's Son-Luke1:35.Jehovah God is Jesus' God-John15:1,16:3,30,20:17, Matt.26:26,36-44,64,Mark15:34,Ephesians1:17.Son=Mediator-1Timothy 2:5,Heb.1:3,4,8:6,9:15,12:24, Romans1:4,8,9,Acts7:55,56.
eternityandforever 6 months ago
After leaving the JW Doomsday cult and after overdosing on freedom, I started studying the bible more carefully looking for truth and direction. I attended several different Christian sects and in the course of my online research, I came across the FFRF website. Dan Barkers writtings shocked me. I knew there was some filthy scriptures, but he made sense. After reading "Losing Faith In Faith", I knew he was right, I knew I was right, but never listen to myself. I told myself, I told you so!
MrGoatwriter 6 months ago
0:37 if there are mooses in heaven are we allowed to eat them
MattHXIV 7 months ago
I don't see how explaining something here publicly would do any harm. So why the need for a "private" conversation?
If what you have to say is true, it should be easily defended publicly.
caelachyt 7 months ago
Oh com'n buddy, you can't target all religions just because u were one of them...Jehovah's witnesses. People say Christian's are loony
AsskickinSasquatch 7 months ago
@AsskickinSasquatch I target all religions and I've never been a religious person at all. You don't need to have experience with theism in order to learn about different religions and speak out against them.
starsalt9 7 months ago
Jesus is awesome.
animedude00spec 7 months ago
church is only made to get money from the pople you dont have bigger thiefs nowere in the world fuck religion <3 technology exporing space
codehookpower 7 months ago
@codehookpower You are a huge idiot.
animedude00spec 7 months ago
Enjoy your videos. You're a voice of reason and critical thinking in a world of closed minded fundamentalism.
newfrontier01 7 months ago
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GahdeMalprigi1488x 7 months ago
I'm sorry being a JW has turned you away from Christ.
caelachyt 7 months ago
Are you purposely taking certain quotes out of context?
YearningForHonesty 7 months ago
@YearningForHonesty she's taking exactly what she learned from JW, She is only one of many people on youtube describing how JW is a cult, i find it odd that so many ex JW suffer so much from their indoctrination.
vba4accountants 7 months ago
@vba4accountants Nearly all the things she quotes from what other people have said are taken out of context.
YearningForHonesty 7 months ago
@YearningForHonesty she's taking it out of context? isn't that what every religion does anyways? JWs are no more correct than Christians, Buddhists, Mormons, Muslims. they all believe the same crap they were told from others. Your bible depicts great miracles of healing and resurrections, well if your God is real, why don't I see that today? & don't tell me its because I don't have faith, because that is preposterous, I could just as easily say i need faith in my Cat 2 heal & redeem me.
vba4accountants 7 months ago
@vba4accountants You would know if you had studied the bible. Assuming that there is no God because you don't see people get healed anymore is an ignorant assumption. No offence, but one of the things I have noticed when talking to people who raise certain arguments against the bible, is that a lot of those people often simply don't know what the bible has to say.
PS, have you studied the bible or are you counting on things you have heard here and there being correct?
YearningForHonesty 7 months ago
@YearningForHonesty I've read the bible in it's entirety, I know all the stories from Adam and Eve, to the Jews wondering and leaving Egypt in Exodus, to them taking over the promise land, to the rise of King Saul anointed by Samuel and his death, To King David's reign, the the exile of the Jews by the Babylonians, to Jesus' preaching and death, to the acts of the apostles. I know all the miracles claimed by the bible and they are all stories to me. until something can be proved otherwise.
vba4accountants 7 months ago
@YearningForHonesty and pls tell me how it is ignorant to assume no God because I don't see the miracles that the bible claims. Christians and I'm sure JW both claim that God is the Same Today, Yesterday, and forever. If God wants logical individuals to not test to find out what religion is correct, and if he can't prove it to me, then how can a religion like JW claim they are the only ones to be redeemed, just like the museums and Christians believe the same thing?
vba4accountants 7 months ago
@vba4accountants You don't seem to be looking for answers. You seem to be looking for confirmation on your current conclusion. With that attitude, it's not a matter of the evidence I give you. I have spoken to people and told them many reasons why it's more reasonable to believe there is a God and also spoke to them about evidence. It's not simply about evidence. No matter how much evidence I give you, it won't make you believe in God unless you're personally involved in religious activities.
YearningForHonesty 7 months ago
@vba4accountants Also, JW's don't believe that they're the only ones who will be redeemed. I would explain more about this, but preferably in a more direct form of communication like MSN or something. If you would like to talk about this more, please send me a private message with your email so I can add you.
PS, In case I offended you, I'm sorry. That wasn't my intention.
YearningForHonesty 7 months ago
@YearningForHonesty Okay then do JW believe the extremely religious Muslims, Hindu, and Buddhists will be "redeemed"? Is a poor extremely religious Muslim mother that prayed to Allah ever day and never hurt a soul on earth going to be killed in Armageddon? What about this nice lady that is considred an apostate because she consciously did not feel JW was right in their teachings, will she get slaughtered in Armageddon because she stood up for her belief?
vba4accountants 7 months ago
@vba4accountants If you care to talk more, please send me a private message with your email address so we can have a more direct form of communication.
YearningForHonesty 7 months ago
@YearningForHonesty why, do you think u can convert me to a religion that receives all its messages and literature by a governing body in NY that is "Ordained by Jesus" that makes false predictions about when Armageddon will occur and so I can be told I must stay away from apostates and those that speak bad against JW, where they indoctrinate children at young ages and when they become adults they question JW and don't receive answers so they leave and their OWN family Shuns them. NO THANKS
vba4accountants 7 months ago
@vba4accountants You really seem just looking for confirmation of your already drawn negative conclusions. And no. I'm not trying to convert you. I'm not even a Jehovah's Witness. I do know quite a bit about them though.
It does bother me when people think bad of them, because it's often based of ignorant assumptions (no offence).
If you look on the internet for information about JW's, you will run into a lot of wrong information.
YearningForHonesty 7 months ago
@YearningForHonesty Of the people who had negative thoughts on them before even having had a bible study with them or just an in-depth talk, the ones who did eventually seek interaction with them to see if what they thought of JW's was correct, they would often change their minds.
Acutally, this journalist had bad thoughts on them. She got her information from the internet. She had an interview with them and she was really surprised at how wrong she was about them.
YearningForHonesty 7 months ago
@vba4accountants So if we talk, what have you got to lose? All you have is information/knowledge to gain on JW's and the bible. If I'm the one that is completely on the wrong path, talk to me, please. If you can change my mind, that would mean you opened my eyes and I would be grateful for that. So in the end, you can gain knowledge and you might 'free' me. That would be a good deed of you to do so if you would change my mind.
Again, the things I have said have no offensive intentions.
YearningForHonesty 7 months ago
To lose belief in God is a tragedy. What one consider a deliverance when becoming an atheist is delusional in itself. Atheism merely asserts the Bible's words that man leads another man to his own destruction. Most world leaders are at best nominally religious, so we're at a mess. God is not delighted at the destruction the wicked. He was even regretful--not repentant--of peoples' death in the Flood during they days of Noah--far from being the Hitler-like figure you wish to portray.
alahad1 7 months ago
Romans 1:18-25 King James Bible
Biblehastheanswer 7 months ago
@Biblehastheanswer its amazing it seems the same im not reading the bible but indeed you giving me a details, im deeply religious non-believer, maybe you must probably follow your favorites let those men enlighten your word my friend, ok take good care and God bless us....................
macky888888 7 months ago
@macky888888 Yes friend please do check out my page on here and look at the other side of the coin. Sorry if I come off too strong. Something I got to pray about and work on. I really do pray you find Yahushua the messiah. Let his words speak to your soul. Luke is great to start off with because it focuses on his humanity. John focuses on his divinity. The greatest love story ever told is our creator entering his creation, laying his life down for us so that we might be reconciled to him.
Biblehastheanswer 7 months ago
So it looks like we are wrapping it up here folks. The world is paving the way to a new world leader. These are just facts. At some point and time, this image of Jesus you have above (aka the Anti-Christ) is going to show up on the scene showing his "as above, so below" satanic hand gesture promising that the Bible was all wrong and that you too can be gods like them if you just "evolve." It's coming. It's prophecy all foretold for us if we just look.
Biblehastheanswer 7 months ago
before God we are equally wise and equally foolish.
macky888888 7 months ago
@Biblehastheanswer before God we are all equally wise and equally foolish.
macky888888 7 months ago