Ok this is it.. Faith in God right yes soo fairh ia believing with out fully understanding think abt it and maby now ull understand why we cant relate ys back to beginning with God
The reason there can't be a resolution to the debate is that no one has the perspective of an observer who is outside time-space. We don't have a witness who was present at the big bang who can tell us what preceded it. If the multiverse or whatever "is" was created by an uncaused first cause, we can't prove or disprove it by observing what it created. You can either believe or decline to believe, but you cannot know, and that's the truth.
Wow dude, I hope you don't take this show on the road. It amazes me how someone can totally make a fool of himself after reading one book that you proudly displayed in this video and then someone say GOD does not exist?
@nmtgmo The average number of neurons in the brain is 100 billion, current figures for glial cells are about 10x the amount of neurons. This is why, creatards who only read the bible and think humans have the same amount of brain cells as insects, are so often laughed at by the rest of us.
@DAJAZDJ1 Your count was a little unrealistic, projected number of dead is around billions, there are studies as to the specific estimate but I have no link. Trillions would include species other than humans.
If time is infinite in every direction, then their is no point in measuring it in any direction. Therefor there is no present (or there is ONLY present, either way it makes no difference). This western, linear, causality driven model of the universe is also troublesome... what gives us the assumption that one thing causes the other?
In the context that we have absolutely no idea what time is or space for that matter, this argument is futile.
We think that time had the begining, but we've assumed it based on a present state of laws of physics, which weren't the same closer to the big bang. It's an old video, but I have a suspicion that you are/were not familiar even with Cantor's work on inifinity, cause there are infinities on top of infinities and infinities inside infinities and bigger infinities.. I gotto get a drink.
Are you sure we're not an accident??? My car hit another car and created a mess....so I'm a creator too. :) Is this anything like the world is flat thing??? So far everything in the universe dies.....every star....every planet....every living thing....even the black hole will come to an end one day and time will stop. If you think we can just float around in space you should try it ! ! ! There's nowhere you can live in outer space....so where are you going with this???
@SkepticGeorge 70% of religions don't think we made it to the moon ! ! ! But the fact is they placed 38"x16" mirrors all over the moon and we have been meaning the distance of the earth to the moon with a laser beam for 40 or so years now...
@h3artcor3 God can't exist out of time for the universe was created at a time. Therefore, there was time before time and Gid has his own little dimension.
VFX's "candybar" analogy demonstrates a common problem with creationist thinking....that we humans (as god's children) are some sort of intended destination or conclusion of time and the reason the universe was created.
Its the very reason they have so much trouble accepting evolution... they cannot conceive of "chance" reaching an intended conclusion.
the obvious problem is the viewpoint. We are not an intended conclusion, we are simply the current state of life in an ongoing continuum.
what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul
I'm guessing you're still pissed about not getting your turning into a robot prayer answered. Face the fact that humans don't know crap about just about anything and theories are nothing more than mental masturbation no matter how educated they sound.
@TheSpankymonkey nothing caused God, that was my point (if he exists) he cant be the creator and the creation at the same time, what part of this cant you understand?
Im not making an argument for the existance of God, but against the stupidity of this video... why would an almighty God be subject to the same laws and principles of this universe? infact its clearly implied in scripture that God exists outside space, time and matter.
Infact you are the one that brought nothing to the table.
i think everyone wa created by whoever or whatever they follow. im Wiccan and i believe that all these different dieties exist, but that i only came from Mother and Father Nature. i like keeping an open mind about these things because id feel bad trying to tell anyone that theyre wrong. nice vid btw
You heard people say- "it will never be found", "it ain't true", "it just can't be".
I'm here to tell you these People are wrong- I found it. Using Google Earth -
I found God's Watermarks of the REAL Garden of Eden. Look at my Channel and see the short Video I made of it. I didn't point all of it out either- there are many things still hid for you to find. There is even a picture of God- come see!
@LichQueenKathie I don't believe in "solid mathematics" I believe mathematics are just one more way created by humans to explain away what they cannot understand or ever will by pretending to "solve" the problem by scribbling some numbers or characters on paper or a screen. I also have a sound premise that humans are nothing more than apes with technology and are working in a solid mathematical way towards extinction because they still don't understand a damn thing.
Infinity can still be cyclic/or spiral like. It also can be dynamic therefore having parts. Infinite number of parts, but still parts with some kind of continuity. meaning there is a certain space between the infinite number of parts..
Basically, he focuses on the drawing way too much (like a typo) and ignores what is actually being argued. The candy bar argument IS arguing against an infinite existence of time existing into negative infinity forever. If you walked backwards toward negative infinity, you could never get there even though you'd think you would eventually since you are working backwards, but no matter how far back your starting point, you can't start early enough to reach it. You still screwed it up Evid3nc3.
So, no original link to the video in question.. okay.
Even if his "visual evidence" as Evid3nc3 likes to call it, wasn't drawn well, the concept is pretty simple. After infinity, you get a candy bar. Yay! But you can't go to the end of infinity. If time stretches backward into infinity, we could never get here because time would have to exist forever in the past so that it never gets anywhere. It's a language complex argument, but is mathematically pretty simple.
1st law of Thermodynamics: Energy can neither be created nor destroyed. If they can say Energy doesn't have a begining then why Is it so hard to believe God didn't? He created! His word! Action word! Verb! Power! All information comes from an Intelligent Source so DNA is Information. Who is the sender? Who implanted DNA into Humans? Answer God!
@d3zim your comment is a perfect example of why people think hyper religious people are retarded. No valid reply or argument to ponder over, just a bunch of yapping about a magic friend.
"what caused God is the logical question"... this afirmation is quite disturbing, even a simpletons intellect has to assume that if God existed, he would not exist on the same plane or dimension or whatever you want to call it as us, he would be separate from the universe, just like you are when you are tending to an ant farm.
Or when you create an object, that does not make you part of the object. this kind of attempt at logic is clearly absurd.
@h3artcor3 so everything has to come from nothing ... except god? thats makes a lot more sense your right, i can see where i was going wrong now thanks
@h3artcor3 "Or when you create an object, that does not make you part of the object. this kind of attempt at logic is clearly absurd." - Well then what caused god and so on and so forth. You are talking out of your arse, actually you are not even doing that are you. You bring nothing to the table other than parroting some backwards scizophrenic delusional goat herder ramblings...
It is as simple as this,God made the universe it does not mean he needs to have a beginning just cause we do.he is all he does not have a beginning or a end.he tells us tht we wpuld not understand this and tht we wont till we c him one day.
@Loljohn7 he's explaining that, as we all know, religious people say : we didn't come from nothing, the universe needed a creator to be created (watchmaker) therefore a God would be necessary...but what these religious people fail to explain is : God needed a creator too, as YOU yourselves said, everything comes from something, it has to have a creator behind everyone, like my parents and before this their parents...
@Loljohn7 he's explaining that, as we all know, religious people say : we didn't come from nothing, the universe needed a creator to be created (watchmaker) therefore a God would be necessary...but what these religious people fail to explain is : God needed a creator too, as YOU yourselves said, everything comes from something, it has to have a creator behind everyone, like my parents and before this their parents...
@Loljohn7 ...etc. Saying that God is an exception to that rule, which is exacty what u r saying now, doesn't give any proof of his existence, in fact, it is actually the opposite, it makes God sounds more absurd than it already is.
@Loljohn7 "God made the universe it does not mean he needs to have a beginning" - I agree, when you are making shit up then you can attribute anything to your fictional character. Fact of the matter remains that you have failed to demonstrate that your "ggawwd" even exists in the first place, much less mentally masturbate in front of everyone about his or her attributes.
Everything either came out of nothing or has existed forever. I can't conceptualize any of these possibilities. First of all EVERYTHING we know is cause and effect and unless the past is being caused by the present, it must have had an initial cause of it's own. On the other side though, assuming something appeared out of nothing is to assume magic has happened. However it is true that "at that time" there we're no laws of physics to prevent magic things from happening either. ;)
i seem to recall hearing that in singularities (black holes and the proto-universe) cause can precede effect, in other words time itself is unified...no cause, no effect. they don't have to follow in the traditional order. its insane, but that's what you get when you collapse the dimensions of the expanded universe into one unified thing.
@naard I guess you mean "effect can preceed cause". So basically that means that the past would be a result of the present/future. Still it would have to be based on cause and effect no matter the direction it was going. Which means cause and effect were already in "motion", But if it was "moving" the question remains, because "movement" already predicts an effect of some cause. i.e. what made it start moving?
I remember when VFX made this idiotic argument and it falls apart under his own logic just as easily as he claims it does under an Atheists way of thinking.
For if god is infinite, which he claims, than an infinite amount of time would pass before god created the universe therefore god would never get around to creating the universe.
Like most of the things VFX or Sean or whatever says, this argument provides no evidence or insight into any belief, much less his own.
@ThisChickISASwiftFan / You are the one who hasn't studied Jesus. If you had you would know that all of the gospels were written anonymously and that names were given to them in the 2nd century. All the gospels are written after AD 70. Sorry if the facts annoy you.
@333KAB : thank you for your kind comments, but if it's a chose between faith and reason. I'll choose reason. I have no doubt that some people worship the devil. It doesn't make the devil real nor more than worshiping god can't make god real.
@333KAB:I'm not willing to believe in God? I believed in God for more than 40 years. Until after all my studies I realised that the bible wasn't what Christian claim it to be. It is not inspired by god, it was written by men none of them met Jesus. The bible is an unreliable source if you are looking for the truth. What happens to you after living a life trying to please a non-existent being? Will you regret it? I know I regret having being a Christian for so long.
@333KAB : I need god like a fish needs a bicycle. God and gods are the invention of men. You can pray all you want it won't make any difference, because when you pray nobody is listening. You can believe you are saved and that I'm damned if you want, it doesn't make it true.
@ThisChickISASwiftFan : (2)It is not the same case for Jesus. There are NO Contemporary writings about Jesus. Jesus wrote nothing, nor did any of his disciples. The earliest anything is written about Jesus is by Paul (Saul) who never met Jesus. All of the gospels were written long after Jesus died and this by anonymous writers. We have NO reason to believe the bible, the qur’an, the bhagavad gita nor the book of mormons are god(s) inspired books.
@ThisChickISASwiftFan : (2)It is not the same case for Jesus. There are NO Contemporary writings about Jesus. Jesus wrote nothing, nor did any of his disciples. The earliest anything is written about Jesus is by Paul (Saul) who never met Jesus. All of the gospels were written long after Jesus died and this by anonymous writers. We have NO reason to believe the bible, the qur’an, the bhagavad gita nor the book of mormons are god(s) inspired books.
@ThisChickISASwiftFan . chickisa swift fan if you don't want me to treat you as unintelligent, don't call me "unintelligent". You are free to believe in the Jesus myth if you want. To answer your question about Abraham Lincoln, there is a great deal of evidence from many different sources, included newspapers, diaries and many other written documents that attest to him having existed. Of course this could be a huge conspiracy and all these documents are false, but that is very unlikely.
@ThisChickISASwiftFan / sorry I didn't realise you weren't intelligent enough to understand what proof is.
A belief isn't proof. What artefacts are linked to Jesus and his apostles. If you did some research you would know that not a single word was written about Jesus in his life time, there are no "eye witnesses". The first recorded writings about Jesus are from Paul (Saul). Get an education. Read a real book instead of bronze aged scribbling by ignorant men
@ThisChickISASwiftFan/ I'm very happy to talk about facts. How do you know that "he came down to earth" and that he resembles the father?
I suppose you read it in the bible. But why do you believe the bible to be true? Find out who wrote the bible, when and how it has been edited and reedited. The FACTS are very interesting. When you have the facts you can see quite clearly that all so called holy books are the work of men. There are NO facts to proof that any so called holy book come from god.
@ThisChickISASwiftFan/ You seem to have difficulty understanding. I do NOT believe in "HIM". Isn't it interesting that God is a "HIM". Further proof that god(s) are the invention of Men (as opposed to women). Why do you believe the "he" created people?
@ThisChickISASwiftFan Here let me give you some help - Genocide: the deliberate and systematic extermination of a national, racial, political, or cultural group. God murdered aver living human when he did the whole "great flood". Or is God the only exception to the rule?
@ThisChickISASwiftFan The Bible does it say that if you harm a child you can't get into the kingdom of Heaven. God himself murdered countless children. So NO you can get there as easily as asking God for forgiveness, repenting all your sins, & allowing God into your heart. And every time you allow the excuse that bad things happen to test your faith and love for God then you are condoning the act. Oh its OK if you got raped just so long as you still love God after because he sure love you.
@ThisChickISASwiftFan As for the other, How am I immoral when I say that allowing someone to be brutalized as a test is wrong. How many crimes have been prevented by the fear of God? Do Christians never commit crime or sin? Do atheists spend all their days stealing, murdering, and sexually abusing children? There is no link between belief in the supernatural and God and morality. But to justify its existence as "It's OK because it's a test" is sick.
@ThisChickISASwiftFan How do they know what they perceived as Jesus was Jesus & not something they wanted to see, an invention of their own minds. In reality Jesus was only described as, He had no beauty or majesty to attract us to him, nothing in his appearance that we should desire him. Isaiah 53:2) No one knows what Jesus actually looked like so how anyone assume to see someone that has never been detailed in a description. The images that are out there of Jesus are man made perceptions.
@ThisChickISASwiftFan That is the most disgusting immorally wrong statement I have ever read from anyone on YT. Without thought you just condoned the abuse of millions right down too rape, murder, & child molestation. Any God that allows the torture or abuse of someone simply to see how loyal they are, is a Monster & Tyrant. And I am sorry but you are sick if you cannot see that. You worship a being that allows these things which are by definition morally wrong all because he can.
@TieFreaty They are not all real. However every religion believes that theirs is the true God. We won't know until the end of time.... or when you die.
@TieFreaty Holy shit, pun intended lmao. That is exactly the thought that made me wonder and take a good look at my former beliefs :D If one god really was real....then there wouldnt be soooo maaannny other beliefs.
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@stevenreilly4 FUCK OFF YOU CREATIONIST CUNT! I'm going to rip your eye socket out, cut your cock off use the blood as lube and fuck your brain you stupid WANKER-CUNT-TWAT!
Haha the bible that the bible this... The bible through the years has been added too c'mon. We never had that kind of intellect back then when the bible supposedly was created? That don't make sense. A book was found woah and read it and boom we all believe there is a god! Cause of stories from that book. We were stupid and easily fooled back then. We knew nothing and always had questions.
@leftylethborg if u want to learn about chrisianity and be saved read the king james version of the bible it is kinda hard to read but god made it tht way so u have to open ur mind and heart to read it and dont believe n videos like this its just the devil workn threw ppl man god bless u man and ill be praying for u man
@Alexus2990 No one's saying that that which hasn't been proven must not exist. Some people just don't believe in God, for example, because there isn't any evidence to suggest that he exists. Others do claim to know God doesn't exist, at least the Christian God, based on logical arguments. Ask yourself, why do you not believe in the Greek or Egyptian gods? Because there isn't any evidence that they exist. Atheists say the same about all other gods of which they are aware.
@leftylethborg when its a result of man u cant use that as he does not exist because he gave us free will to do which is enecvitable to happen because every1 has origional sin
respect your view mate i don't have the time to argue over the matter espically over the internet if god helps you in your life better understand things idk by all means respect to you your friends and family
Pfffff, really? Has mankind gotten so arrogant with their tiny knowledge of the universe that they say if they can't prove it it must not exist? Ever since we know in the beginning of time the gods where always spoken of. Not a large meteorite that came crashing to earth, not the fish turning into skunks, etc. Should we really be so quick as to throw off the idea that there just might be a world out there that is not of the physical nature?
However, if we believe in Einstein's general relativity, time does have a beginning. For instance, according to Hawking, time doesn't exist inside a black hole's event horizon. Why? Time is somehow linked to the speed of light. I don't claim to understand it all, but time does have a beginning if our current understanding of physics is true.
Wow, I guess this will be completely off and may sound stupid, but I think you're kinda hot :) also, I wish there were more professors like you where I'm from (or in general). I think most professors at faculties (at least where I'm studying) lack some basic understanding of the subject and therefore can't teach it well or answer any of the student's questions..
Evidence's argument as a whole isn't sound because for one thing, most scientists would agree that the universe in fact *did* have a beginning (hence The Big Bang Theory) and secondly, his number line analogy doesn't work either because NUMBERS in it of themselves have the ability to span from -infinity to +infinity while the UNIVERSE (which doesn't consist of numbers) cannot span from -infinity to +infinity. And btw, the universe may in fact come to and end someday.
With time and stuff I reckon that everything now is allredy at the end but it's like a fat kid despretly trying to eat at cake like he's at the middle he can finish there if he wants to (suicide) but he chooses to keep eating the cake :) I'm not to sure I'm 14 anyway but I think there was no beginning of time and as we live like write now is the beginning of time again I'm not sure but u'll have to be me to understand soz
Good video, but I'm not sure it's fair to create a counter strawman, in your statement "well what created God" implying we have no answer for that. The problem with that is we believe God has no beginning or end, something the Bible stated before people started arguing about time and space. (I know that is not proof, I'm just saying this isn't a new argument we came up with as a response.)
To have no beginning or end is to satisfy the requirements of being a first cause.
my follow up question then is this. Don't you guys believe that time is a construct of the universe? If there was no universe, then wasn't there no time before the big bang? And isn't infinity also a function of time?
in theory religion is just earthbound belief.if there was an alien civilization on the other side of the galaxy lets say a billion light years away and just to say for instance they contacted the human race and said everything you believe about creation of life and the universe is not the way it happen.would you say they were wrong or want to learn more about their belief.this is just a question
the only devil is your own gullibility and lack of logic. You are not enlightened.
The true brilliance of our founding fathers was that they were enlightened. This happened not by belief in God but by belief in the wisdom of the common enlightened man.
You want to hear God - listen to Mozart, or Beethoven, or Wagner - then there is Bach, ah....Bach.
@03jack There is no such thing as God or the Devil, or any forms of either of them. They are all lies. Atheists are not "being mislead we just don't believe the fairy tails. We see through the bullshit of religion and question everything until we get an answer that has proof for it being correct. Please look up information on what you will be commenting on before you actually post the comment. That is if you want to look like less of an idiot!
Athiest are dumb... There Are famous poeple who admit to selling there souls to the devil to gain riches... if they believe the devil is real then there must be a god..
vikings believed in gods, like the god of thunder. when it was commonly known how thunder is made, no-one believes in him anymore. if there's ever going to be an perfect explanation of how the world was made, then no-one will believe in god also. but will probably never find out.
we as humans simply can't figure it out. prove me wrong.
vikings believed in gods, like the god of thunder. when it was commonly known how thunder is made, no-one believes in him anymore. if there's ever going to be an perfect explanation of how the world was made, then no-one will believe in god also. ut will probably never find out.
we as humans simply can't figure it out. prove me wrong.
think back to way back when before quantum mechanics. just because we hadnt figured it out at that time did not mean it didnt exist, or could be proven in the future. we have so much time ahead of us to grow and learn. dont put aside god/higher power/spirituality just because you cannot prove it. that is ignorance
why dont questions like "how and where was the first proton created?" or particles in general. "what prompted the 'big bang'". we dont have answers for these questions but somehow they dont debunk science. just because we cannot prove something, does not mean it doesnt exist.
well how did life start? the urey-miller experiment suggests that life was created from abiotic factors. science itself states that something cannot be created from nothing. why do people always ask "well where did god come from?" as if god was a physical thing like you and me. of course we as humans would think that god is first of all a he, but also we are trying to personify something that cannot be personified.
its hard for you to undersand but the truth is in heaven there is no time it is a dimention that is impossible for the human brain to comprehend .... the glory is too much for the human brain to comprehend .... i dont know wa church went to bu i've known that since i was 7 its hard to accept bu i accept it
@stephen85598 How difficult is it to accept something as real that has no evidence for it? Not difficult for some, very difficult for others.
No matter how difficult something may be to correctly comprehend, there is always time as long as anything happens.
You did not know that since you were 7. At 7 years old, you had no way of knowing such things. Someone convinced you when you were 7 & you've been blinded to the truth since then.
I died when i was 4 years old and got to see a pair of whitish golden gates after i was brought back i asked my grandpa why there was a police officer on a motorcycle on the other side of a windowless wall no one understands that without god we have just killed our last hope to be saved.
Time doesn't go backwards. If there's an infinite amount of time before us, that time has been passed. An infinite amount of time has been passed -- or not. If we are at "0" -- or any number -- we would be infinitely far ahead of any "negative infinity". For us to have reached this point in time, then, there cannot have been any such "negative infinity" time. There must, then, have been a start of time. Your counterargument was pretty awful.
The candy bar theory is wrong beacuse it was eternity before with nothing but it never said at the end of infinity humans would be made so the candy bar theory is irelevent thank you and God bless beacuse he knows many of you need to be talked to by someone knowligable of faith
God did all satin is is one of Gods fallen angels nothing more he has no power in God
And if you beileve in satin then you must beileve in God beacuse he is Satins opposite and btw with Jesuses death and resurection satin has already lost but good try though the devil is just using you to spread doubt
@3demminsionaljoe yes actually there is evidence the mere fact that everything about our existence is perfect that if we were 1 more degree closer or further from the sun we would burn or freeze the fact that the atmosphere is perfect for holding oxygen which happens to be the main thing we need to live do you just consider that just lucky.......
No this shows there has to be someone there to create these conditions
It is written God is a Revealing God. So Seek the Truth. The best place? In front of The Altar in any Catholic Church, for there The Eucharist lies, waiting. for you to come and know Him.
diagrams and equations, science and astronomy, proof of theories not of God's existence. proof? what do people 'like'? beauty honor sacrifice truth - b/c they r little examples of who God is. Any Truth-seeking Q's? email me. FlopJack m sn
It is written God is a Revealing God. So Seek the Truth. The best place? In front of The Plate in any Flying Spaghetti Monster Tabernacle, for there Bolognaise lies.
diagrams and equations, science and astronomy, proof of theories not of God's existence. proof? what do people 'like'? beauty honor sacrifice truth - b/c they r little examples of who God is. Any Truth-seeking Q's? email me.
I thought Steven Hawking said time had a beginning? Was his science wrong? And if people are saying time didn't have a beginning, what makes us think that it won't be wrong in the future?
@pyrobryan Jesus chose to go to Hell to save our sins. Granted he didn't want to but that was the only way. Besides, on the third day Jesus rose to Heaven and was seated on the right hand side of the Lord Almighty. And God is a loving Father because he saved our souls through Jesus dieing on the cross, descending to Hell, and being risen. God Bless!
I think you need to look at space-time and Stephen Hawking's book, The Grand Design. Time was once a space dimension, there was nothing before the point where time separated itself from the other space dimensions. There is nothing before this point because before describes time, not space.
So, no creator was necessary. This keeps things within the bounds of our universe without going into a multiverse which is obviously harder to argue about. No god necessary, no negative infinity implied.
Strangely, I understand the candy bar argument. If this instant is zero on the timeline, we can never get to a moment in time that is infinitely far from now through a succession of moments. Thus, it is not possible for us to have reached this moment from an infinite recession of moments. Interesting thought...
The human brain works this way. to us in order for something to exist or have existed, it needs a start. According to the faithful,Our human minds are not powerful enough and not built to understand how something can exist without a beginning,to understand that something can live without birth is impossible to us bit only because we are naturally built to not understand it.
Time is yet another Simulacrum that only exists in our minds. Because we can pose the question of "When did the universe begin", doesn't mean there's a concrete answer. There is no time. There is no begin. There is no end. Live not in questions with no answers. Live in curiosity, creation and purging.
@12guageboom If there were no problems there would be no evil with no evil there would be no good because evil exsists in the presence of good & besides most problems occur by human nature and God gave mankind the power of free will. Say you have a very strict father who wants his child to be a doctor. Well the child hates anything medical and wants to become a preformer, now if the father forced the child to be a doctor, the child would become a miserable person. Thats not a very loving father.
@peoplegoboom100 Yes, a true loving father will send you to burn in undescribably torture and pain for all of eternity if you don't do what he says. Infinite punishment for finite wrongs. I love you, too, daddy.
I am an atheist but I think the video poster misunderstood the argument.
If the universe existed for an eternity before us, then there would be some point in time that will never reach us. That creates a paradox that needs answering.
You're an idiot. The question mark is the big bang. god is not real, and neither are fairy tales
DJSRF 3 days ago
Ok this is it.. Faith in God right yes soo fairh ia believing with out fully understanding think abt it and maby now ull understand why we cant relate ys back to beginning with God
IdontknowE2 5 days ago
The reason there can't be a resolution to the debate is that no one has the perspective of an observer who is outside time-space. We don't have a witness who was present at the big bang who can tell us what preceded it. If the multiverse or whatever "is" was created by an uncaused first cause, we can't prove or disprove it by observing what it created. You can either believe or decline to believe, but you cannot know, and that's the truth.
Celebduath 2 weeks ago
I agree with you.. But man you sound dumb saying it.
omegababyy 2 weeks ago
Wow dude, I hope you don't take this show on the road. It amazes me how someone can totally make a fool of himself after reading one book that you proudly displayed in this video and then someone say GOD does not exist?
nmtgmo 2 weeks ago
@nmtgmo The average number of neurons in the brain is 100 billion, current figures for glial cells are about 10x the amount of neurons. This is why, creatards who only read the bible and think humans have the same amount of brain cells as insects, are so often laughed at by the rest of us.
@DAJAZDJ1 Your count was a little unrealistic, projected number of dead is around billions, there are studies as to the specific estimate but I have no link. Trillions would include species other than humans.
LeviathanZr6 2 weeks ago
If time is infinite in every direction, then their is no point in measuring it in any direction. Therefor there is no present (or there is ONLY present, either way it makes no difference). This western, linear, causality driven model of the universe is also troublesome... what gives us the assumption that one thing causes the other?
jackrowet1234 2 weeks ago
God is not the "extra"
jackrowet1234 2 weeks ago
Looking at this video, evid3nc3 sure stepped his game up as a video maker when making the deconversion videos :)
MikeoWar 3 weeks ago
how cany trillions and trillions of people over the years fit in heaven
DAJAZDJ1 3 weeks ago
@DAJAZDJ1 first you need to learn to count, next we need to ask how does millions of brain cells exist in your brain? Oh they don't.
nmtgmo 2 weeks ago
@nmtgmo yo ma nigga believe i'll bend yo mofucking jaw ya er mi
DAJAZDJ1 2 weeks ago
In the context that we have absolutely no idea what time is or space for that matter, this argument is futile.
We think that time had the begining, but we've assumed it based on a present state of laws of physics, which weren't the same closer to the big bang. It's an old video, but I have a suspicion that you are/were not familiar even with Cantor's work on inifinity, cause there are infinities on top of infinities and infinities inside infinities and bigger infinities.. I gotto get a drink.
Vejita12 3 weeks ago
Are you sure we're not an accident??? My car hit another car and created a mess....so I'm a creator too. :) Is this anything like the world is flat thing??? So far everything in the universe dies.....every star....every planet....every living thing....even the black hole will come to an end one day and time will stop. If you think we can just float around in space you should try it ! ! ! There's nowhere you can live in outer space....so where are you going with this???
psychuous1 4 weeks ago
Philsophy, questions that may never be answered
Religion, answers that may never be questioned
CashiusTML 1 month ago
Browse uppp
xoxoclairexoxo1 1 month ago
@MegaKurgen Theory got us to the moon.
SkepticGeorge 1 month ago
@SkepticGeorge 70% of religions don't think we made it to the moon ! ! ! But the fact is they placed 38"x16" mirrors all over the moon and we have been meaning the distance of the earth to the moon with a laser beam for 40 or so years now...
psychuous1 4 weeks ago
@h3artcor3 God can't exist out of time for the universe was created at a time. Therefore, there was time before time and Gid has his own little dimension.
SkepticGeorge 1 month ago
DNA is not information like that of a book, it's a metaphor used by biologists in reference to biochemistry.
SkepticGeorge 1 month ago
VFX's "candybar" analogy demonstrates a common problem with creationist thinking....that we humans (as god's children) are some sort of intended destination or conclusion of time and the reason the universe was created.
Its the very reason they have so much trouble accepting evolution... they cannot conceive of "chance" reaching an intended conclusion.
the obvious problem is the viewpoint. We are not an intended conclusion, we are simply the current state of life in an ongoing continuum.
stiimuli 1 month ago
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what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul
iwin371220 1 month ago
THEORIES ARE NOT THE TRUTH GUYS! Jesus is the way, and the truth.
ItsSoMe2011 1 month ago
@ItsSoMe2011 JESUS IS NOT THE TRUTH GUYS! Cheese is the way, and the truth.
deathtris 1 month ago
@deathtris
What denomination of cheese do you belong to? Pepperjack is the one true path. All other cheeses are false and lead to ruin.
caposton 1 month ago
@caposton BLASPHEMER! GOAT CHEESE IS THE WAY TO SALVATION!
deathtris 1 month ago
You recommend a book called "Think" to creationists? I laugh.
v1k1n95 1 month ago
I'm guessing you're still pissed about not getting your turning into a robot prayer answered. Face the fact that humans don't know crap about just about anything and theories are nothing more than mental masturbation no matter how educated they sound.
MegaKurgen 2 months ago
@TheSpankymonkey nothing caused God, that was my point (if he exists) he cant be the creator and the creation at the same time, what part of this cant you understand?
Im not making an argument for the existance of God, but against the stupidity of this video... why would an almighty God be subject to the same laws and principles of this universe? infact its clearly implied in scripture that God exists outside space, time and matter.
Infact you are the one that brought nothing to the table.
h3artcor3 2 months ago
i think everyone wa created by whoever or whatever they follow. im Wiccan and i believe that all these different dieties exist, but that i only came from Mother and Father Nature. i like keeping an open mind about these things because id feel bad trying to tell anyone that theyre wrong. nice vid btw
woopwoop217 3 months ago
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You heard people say- "it will never be found", "it ain't true", "it just can't be".
I'm here to tell you these People are wrong- I found it. Using Google Earth -
I found God's Watermarks of the REAL Garden of Eden. Look at my Channel and see the short Video I made of it. I didn't point all of it out either- there are many things still hid for you to find. There is even a picture of God- come see!
downyourtube 3 months ago
Oh, and I don't know of any proven theory about time existing or not existing before the "big-bang".
pila406 3 months ago
@pila406 closed universe theory
Jaacobbbbb 2 months ago
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pila406 2 months ago
To which of my comments did you respond? And how does it prove time expending beyond our universe?
pila406 2 months ago
@pila406 I have physical evidence that my jockey shorts elastic band is expanding, all the Universe theories have as evidence is bullshit.
MegaKurgen 2 months ago
@MegaKurgen What, solid mathematics based on sound premises? Grow up for fuck's sake -.-
LichQueenKathie 1 month ago
@LichQueenKathie I don't believe in "solid mathematics" I believe mathematics are just one more way created by humans to explain away what they cannot understand or ever will by pretending to "solve" the problem by scribbling some numbers or characters on paper or a screen. I also have a sound premise that humans are nothing more than apes with technology and are working in a solid mathematical way towards extinction because they still don't understand a damn thing.
MegaKurgen 1 month ago
Infinity can still be cyclic/or spiral like. It also can be dynamic therefore having parts. Infinite number of parts, but still parts with some kind of continuity. meaning there is a certain space between the infinite number of parts..
pila406 3 months ago 2
If the creatards were intelligent enough to fully grasp the point of this video, they wouldn't be creatards to begin with.
Trying to reason with creatards is like trying to reason with a cat.
ndrthrdr1 3 months ago 11
you lost me in the first 40 secs.
TheJayg13 3 months ago
Basically, he focuses on the drawing way too much (like a typo) and ignores what is actually being argued. The candy bar argument IS arguing against an infinite existence of time existing into negative infinity forever. If you walked backwards toward negative infinity, you could never get there even though you'd think you would eventually since you are working backwards, but no matter how far back your starting point, you can't start early enough to reach it. You still screwed it up Evid3nc3.
Sickopath333 3 months ago
So, no original link to the video in question.. okay.
Even if his "visual evidence" as Evid3nc3 likes to call it, wasn't drawn well, the concept is pretty simple. After infinity, you get a candy bar. Yay! But you can't go to the end of infinity. If time stretches backward into infinity, we could never get here because time would have to exist forever in the past so that it never gets anywhere. It's a language complex argument, but is mathematically pretty simple.
Sickopath333 3 months ago
Religous Rehab : I DON'T WANT YOU §§ !! §§
YPicanda 3 months ago
1st law of Thermodynamics: Energy can neither be created nor destroyed. If they can say Energy doesn't have a begining then why Is it so hard to believe God didn't? He created! His word! Action word! Verb! Power! All information comes from an Intelligent Source so DNA is Information. Who is the sender? Who implanted DNA into Humans? Answer God!
d3zim 3 months ago
@d3zim your comment is a perfect example of why people think hyper religious people are retarded. No valid reply or argument to ponder over, just a bunch of yapping about a magic friend.
55metalmonkey 3 months ago
There is no logic to God. It's just not humanly possible.
joshlim2nddegree 3 months ago
"what caused God is the logical question"... this afirmation is quite disturbing, even a simpletons intellect has to assume that if God existed, he would not exist on the same plane or dimension or whatever you want to call it as us, he would be separate from the universe, just like you are when you are tending to an ant farm.
Or when you create an object, that does not make you part of the object. this kind of attempt at logic is clearly absurd.
h3artcor3 4 months ago
@h3artcor3 so everything has to come from nothing ... except god? thats makes a lot more sense your right, i can see where i was going wrong now thanks
mica410 3 months ago
@h3artcor3 "Or when you create an object, that does not make you part of the object. this kind of attempt at logic is clearly absurd." - Well then what caused god and so on and so forth. You are talking out of your arse, actually you are not even doing that are you. You bring nothing to the table other than parroting some backwards scizophrenic delusional goat herder ramblings...
TheSpankymonkey 3 months ago
It is as simple as this,God made the universe it does not mean he needs to have a beginning just cause we do.he is all he does not have a beginning or a end.he tells us tht we wpuld not understand this and tht we wont till we c him one day.
Loljohn7 4 months ago
@Loljohn7 If your god requires no beginning, then why do we?
atheistjacob 4 months ago
@Loljohn7 he's explaining that, as we all know, religious people say : we didn't come from nothing, the universe needed a creator to be created (watchmaker) therefore a God would be necessary...but what these religious people fail to explain is : God needed a creator too, as YOU yourselves said, everything comes from something, it has to have a creator behind everyone, like my parents and before this their parents...
XxFATfishxX 4 months ago
@Loljohn7 he's explaining that, as we all know, religious people say : we didn't come from nothing, the universe needed a creator to be created (watchmaker) therefore a God would be necessary...but what these religious people fail to explain is : God needed a creator too, as YOU yourselves said, everything comes from something, it has to have a creator behind everyone, like my parents and before this their parents...
XxFATfishxX 4 months ago
@Loljohn7 ...etc. Saying that God is an exception to that rule, which is exacty what u r saying now, doesn't give any proof of his existence, in fact, it is actually the opposite, it makes God sounds more absurd than it already is.
XxFATfishxX 4 months ago
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@Loljohn7 "God made the universe it does not mean he needs to have a beginning" - I agree, when you are making shit up then you can attribute anything to your fictional character. Fact of the matter remains that you have failed to demonstrate that your "ggawwd" even exists in the first place, much less mentally masturbate in front of everyone about his or her attributes.
TheSpankymonkey 3 months ago
Forget about this just enjoy life how it is when you die you'll know the truth :) don't waste your time researching this
CREYKING 4 months ago
Alright WTF! Stop trying to figure out where we Came from just enjoy Life as much as you can! have Fun just like me I'm
A teenager the best period of my Life! I believe in God and idc what ppl say but please stop with this nonsense
CREYKING 4 months ago
Everything either came out of nothing or has existed forever. I can't conceptualize any of these possibilities. First of all EVERYTHING we know is cause and effect and unless the past is being caused by the present, it must have had an initial cause of it's own. On the other side though, assuming something appeared out of nothing is to assume magic has happened. However it is true that "at that time" there we're no laws of physics to prevent magic things from happening either. ;)
DesertstormPT 4 months ago
@DesertstormPT
i seem to recall hearing that in singularities (black holes and the proto-universe) cause can precede effect, in other words time itself is unified...no cause, no effect. they don't have to follow in the traditional order. its insane, but that's what you get when you collapse the dimensions of the expanded universe into one unified thing.
naard 4 months ago
@naard I guess you mean "effect can preceed cause". So basically that means that the past would be a result of the present/future. Still it would have to be based on cause and effect no matter the direction it was going. Which means cause and effect were already in "motion", But if it was "moving" the question remains, because "movement" already predicts an effect of some cause. i.e. what made it start moving?
DesertstormPT 4 months ago
I remember when VFX made this idiotic argument and it falls apart under his own logic just as easily as he claims it does under an Atheists way of thinking.
For if god is infinite, which he claims, than an infinite amount of time would pass before god created the universe therefore god would never get around to creating the universe.
Like most of the things VFX or Sean or whatever says, this argument provides no evidence or insight into any belief, much less his own.
Aethgeir 4 months ago
@ThisChickISASwiftFan / You are the one who hasn't studied Jesus. If you had you would know that all of the gospels were written anonymously and that names were given to them in the 2nd century. All the gospels are written after AD 70. Sorry if the facts annoy you.
memully 4 months ago
@333KAB : thank you for your kind comments, but if it's a chose between faith and reason. I'll choose reason. I have no doubt that some people worship the devil. It doesn't make the devil real nor more than worshiping god can't make god real.
memully 4 months ago
thats exactly wat i said.. WAT CAUSED GOD.. here are some more questions that never seemed to get an anwer
how do people kno hes a man?
why doesnt he come down and tlk to someone lyk it says in the bible?
would this god want the pope to live in a house thats lyk 100x better than anyone elses house?
how do people kno hevean is soo great and hell is so bad did someone die then come bak and explained how it was up there or how it was in hell?
i bet kno one tht believes in good can anwer them
sugarbritchified 4 months ago
@333KAB:I'm not willing to believe in God? I believed in God for more than 40 years. Until after all my studies I realised that the bible wasn't what Christian claim it to be. It is not inspired by god, it was written by men none of them met Jesus. The bible is an unreliable source if you are looking for the truth. What happens to you after living a life trying to please a non-existent being? Will you regret it? I know I regret having being a Christian for so long.
memully 4 months ago
@333KAB : I need god like a fish needs a bicycle. God and gods are the invention of men. You can pray all you want it won't make any difference, because when you pray nobody is listening. You can believe you are saved and that I'm damned if you want, it doesn't make it true.
memully 4 months ago
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@ThisChickISASwiftFan : (2)It is not the same case for Jesus. There are NO Contemporary writings about Jesus. Jesus wrote nothing, nor did any of his disciples. The earliest anything is written about Jesus is by Paul (Saul) who never met Jesus. All of the gospels were written long after Jesus died and this by anonymous writers. We have NO reason to believe the bible, the qur’an, the bhagavad gita nor the book of mormons are god(s) inspired books.
memully 4 months ago
@ThisChickISASwiftFan : (2)It is not the same case for Jesus. There are NO Contemporary writings about Jesus. Jesus wrote nothing, nor did any of his disciples. The earliest anything is written about Jesus is by Paul (Saul) who never met Jesus. All of the gospels were written long after Jesus died and this by anonymous writers. We have NO reason to believe the bible, the qur’an, the bhagavad gita nor the book of mormons are god(s) inspired books.
memully 4 months ago
@ThisChickISASwiftFan . chickisa swift fan if you don't want me to treat you as unintelligent, don't call me "unintelligent". You are free to believe in the Jesus myth if you want. To answer your question about Abraham Lincoln, there is a great deal of evidence from many different sources, included newspapers, diaries and many other written documents that attest to him having existed. Of course this could be a huge conspiracy and all these documents are false, but that is very unlikely.
memully 4 months ago
@ThisChickISASwiftFan / sorry I didn't realise you weren't intelligent enough to understand what proof is.
A belief isn't proof. What artefacts are linked to Jesus and his apostles. If you did some research you would know that not a single word was written about Jesus in his life time, there are no "eye witnesses". The first recorded writings about Jesus are from Paul (Saul). Get an education. Read a real book instead of bronze aged scribbling by ignorant men
memully 4 months ago
a fake flake
tonysosa88 4 months ago
@ThisChickISASwiftFan/ I'm very happy to talk about facts. How do you know that "he came down to earth" and that he resembles the father?
I suppose you read it in the bible. But why do you believe the bible to be true? Find out who wrote the bible, when and how it has been edited and reedited. The FACTS are very interesting. When you have the facts you can see quite clearly that all so called holy books are the work of men. There are NO facts to proof that any so called holy book come from god.
memully 4 months ago
@ThisChickISASwiftFan/ You seem to have difficulty understanding. I do NOT believe in "HIM". Isn't it interesting that God is a "HIM". Further proof that god(s) are the invention of Men (as opposed to women). Why do you believe the "he" created people?
memully 4 months ago
@ThisChickISASwiftFan: athiests do accept god(s), we accept god(s) for what they really are. The invention of men.
memully 4 months ago
@ThisChickISASwiftFan You mean you wish I would lie to myself and stop thinking for myself. No thanks!
Strictlypointless 4 months ago
@ThisChickISASwiftFan Here let me give you some help - Genocide: the deliberate and systematic extermination of a national, racial, political, or cultural group. God murdered aver living human when he did the whole "great flood". Or is God the only exception to the rule?
Strictlypointless 4 months ago
God is flake
tonysosa88 4 months ago
@tonysosa88 : a cornflake or a snowflake?
memully 4 months ago
@ThisChickISASwiftFan What's pointless is the blind faith the keeps you from seeing what is obvious.
Strictlypointless 4 months ago
@ThisChickISASwiftFan The Bible does it say that if you harm a child you can't get into the kingdom of Heaven. God himself murdered countless children. So NO you can get there as easily as asking God for forgiveness, repenting all your sins, & allowing God into your heart. And every time you allow the excuse that bad things happen to test your faith and love for God then you are condoning the act. Oh its OK if you got raped just so long as you still love God after because he sure love you.
Strictlypointless 4 months ago
@ThisChickISASwiftFan As for the other, How am I immoral when I say that allowing someone to be brutalized as a test is wrong. How many crimes have been prevented by the fear of God? Do Christians never commit crime or sin? Do atheists spend all their days stealing, murdering, and sexually abusing children? There is no link between belief in the supernatural and God and morality. But to justify its existence as "It's OK because it's a test" is sick.
Strictlypointless 4 months ago
@ThisChickISASwiftFan How do they know what they perceived as Jesus was Jesus & not something they wanted to see, an invention of their own minds. In reality Jesus was only described as, He had no beauty or majesty to attract us to him, nothing in his appearance that we should desire him. Isaiah 53:2) No one knows what Jesus actually looked like so how anyone assume to see someone that has never been detailed in a description. The images that are out there of Jesus are man made perceptions.
Strictlypointless 4 months ago
@ThisChickISASwiftFan That is the most disgusting immorally wrong statement I have ever read from anyone on YT. Without thought you just condoned the abuse of millions right down too rape, murder, & child molestation. Any God that allows the torture or abuse of someone simply to see how loyal they are, is a Monster & Tyrant. And I am sorry but you are sick if you cannot see that. You worship a being that allows these things which are by definition morally wrong all because he can.
Strictlypointless 4 months ago
If every religion has a "god" then how are all of them real?
TieFreaty 5 months ago
@TieFreaty They are not all real. However every religion believes that theirs is the true God. We won't know until the end of time.... or when you die.
lasersniper15 4 months ago
@TieFreaty Holy shit, pun intended lmao. That is exactly the thought that made me wonder and take a good look at my former beliefs :D If one god really was real....then there wouldnt be soooo maaannny other beliefs.
WhatUGawkinAt 4 months ago
@WhatUGawkinAt exactly
TieFreaty 4 months ago
Anyone who thinks shawn's argument proves that an infinite amount of time in the past is impossible is an idiot.
anticorncob6 5 months ago
You have very peaceful eyes.
mojomike 5 months ago
i like books but i prefer aotobiographys not fiction like THE BIBBLE
freshpbluessoul 5 months ago
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AAaaronandersonMUSIC 5 months ago
Pray for athiests.
stevenreilly4 5 months ago
@stevenreilly4 PLEASE DON'T WASTE ANY OF YOUR TIME TALKING TO YOURSELF FOR US.
xerxes4117 5 months ago
@stevenreilly4 FUCK OFF YOU CREATIONIST CUNT! I'm going to rip your eye socket out, cut your cock off use the blood as lube and fuck your brain you stupid WANKER-CUNT-TWAT!
moondogcow 5 months ago
Haha the bible that the bible this... The bible through the years has been added too c'mon. We never had that kind of intellect back then when the bible supposedly was created? That don't make sense. A book was found woah and read it and boom we all believe there is a god! Cause of stories from that book. We were stupid and easily fooled back then. We knew nothing and always had questions.
painzist 5 months ago
@leftylethborg if u want to learn about chrisianity and be saved read the king james version of the bible it is kinda hard to read but god made it tht way so u have to open ur mind and heart to read it and dont believe n videos like this its just the devil workn threw ppl man god bless u man and ill be praying for u man
justinlott17 5 months ago
@Alexus2990 No one's saying that that which hasn't been proven must not exist. Some people just don't believe in God, for example, because there isn't any evidence to suggest that he exists. Others do claim to know God doesn't exist, at least the Christian God, based on logical arguments. Ask yourself, why do you not believe in the Greek or Egyptian gods? Because there isn't any evidence that they exist. Atheists say the same about all other gods of which they are aware.
ThatGuyWithHippyHair 5 months ago
How about this: God created the law of time as well as he created the law of gravity and etc..?
MrEngene 5 months ago
god was there during ww2 and all that the reson that happened is that everyone has freewill and there is sin in the world
snakefangff 5 months ago
nothing caused god god is eternal therefore nothing caused him
snakefangff 5 months ago
where is your god when you need him
where was he in ww2 when 80 million people died as a result of man
where was he in 1996 when martin Bryant shot dead 35 people
where was he when the 2004 boxing day tsunami hit killing over 20000 people
and you chose to believe in god
you chose to put your faith into what will not be there for you when you need it most
you may argue hes in your heart
look how fucked the world is which he has created and over seas and tell me hes worth believing in
leftylethborg 5 months ago
@leftylethborg when its a result of man u cant use that as he does not exist because he gave us free will to do which is enecvitable to happen because every1 has origional sin
djspeedy7 5 months ago
@djspeedy7
respect your view mate i don't have the time to argue over the matter espically over the internet if god helps you in your life better understand things idk by all means respect to you your friends and family
have a good one
leftylethborg 5 months ago
@leftylethborg im not reliogoious to be honest im 14 and dont no what i believe just stating some things i new about chritianity
djspeedy7 5 months ago
Pfffff, really? Has mankind gotten so arrogant with their tiny knowledge of the universe that they say if they can't prove it it must not exist? Ever since we know in the beginning of time the gods where always spoken of. Not a large meteorite that came crashing to earth, not the fish turning into skunks, etc. Should we really be so quick as to throw off the idea that there just might be a world out there that is not of the physical nature?
Alexus2990 5 months ago
However, if we believe in Einstein's general relativity, time does have a beginning. For instance, according to Hawking, time doesn't exist inside a black hole's event horizon. Why? Time is somehow linked to the speed of light. I don't claim to understand it all, but time does have a beginning if our current understanding of physics is true.
387Dan 5 months ago
No offense, but your videos have come a LONG way!
BeanSand 5 months ago
well then what made god
noone has senn him
he is not real
outsidermc 5 months ago
jesus has been the cause of more murders than the holocaust
IceCube4ever1 5 months ago
If we were supose to know everything we would be God. He doesnt need us to know everything. just know that God is real
tempestt2005 5 months ago
Wow, I guess this will be completely off and may sound stupid, but I think you're kinda hot :) also, I wish there were more professors like you where I'm from (or in general). I think most professors at faculties (at least where I'm studying) lack some basic understanding of the subject and therefore can't teach it well or answer any of the student's questions..
LeePierce 6 months ago
@yurmama251 exactly, everything has to have a begining...
recgkillasouth 6 months ago
Evidence's argument as a whole isn't sound because for one thing, most scientists would agree that the universe in fact *did* have a beginning (hence The Big Bang Theory) and secondly, his number line analogy doesn't work either because NUMBERS in it of themselves have the ability to span from -infinity to +infinity while the UNIVERSE (which doesn't consist of numbers) cannot span from -infinity to +infinity. And btw, the universe may in fact come to and end someday.
lillibeth13 6 months ago
With time and stuff I reckon that everything now is allredy at the end but it's like a fat kid despretly trying to eat at cake like he's at the middle he can finish there if he wants to (suicide) but he chooses to keep eating the cake :) I'm not to sure I'm 14 anyway but I think there was no beginning of time and as we live like write now is the beginning of time again I'm not sure but u'll have to be me to understand soz
TheTurkeySandwhich 6 months ago
Good video, but I'm not sure it's fair to create a counter strawman, in your statement "well what created God" implying we have no answer for that. The problem with that is we believe God has no beginning or end, something the Bible stated before people started arguing about time and space. (I know that is not proof, I'm just saying this isn't a new argument we came up with as a response.)
To have no beginning or end is to satisfy the requirements of being a first cause.
lazyazn147 6 months ago
my follow up question then is this. Don't you guys believe that time is a construct of the universe? If there was no universe, then wasn't there no time before the big bang? And isn't infinity also a function of time?
lazyazn147 6 months ago
any physicist will tell you infitiniti is impossible. try again sherlock.
GingerCulture 6 months ago
I am an atheist please if god is real then how was he created or did he create himself somehow I doubt it
Yourmama251 6 months ago
in theory religion is just earthbound belief.if there was an alien civilization on the other side of the galaxy lets say a billion light years away and just to say for instance they contacted the human race and said everything you believe about creation of life and the universe is not the way it happen.would you say they were wrong or want to learn more about their belief.this is just a question
stvnpcck 6 months ago
How dare you call me Sir! I am black, a woman, Catholic, and pregnant Nun.
mlcollins10 6 months ago
the only devil is your own gullibility and lack of logic. You are not enlightened.
The true brilliance of our founding fathers was that they were enlightened. This happened not by belief in God but by belief in the wisdom of the common enlightened man.
You want to hear God - listen to Mozart, or Beethoven, or Wagner - then there is Bach, ah....Bach.
mlcollins10 6 months ago
@mlcollins10 They were gods, weren't they? Maybe Holst too.
pantscrapper12 6 months ago
Correction.. Athiest arent dumb but ARE BEIng miss led.. the devil wants u not to believe he exist
03jack 6 months ago
@03jack There is no such thing as God or the Devil, or any forms of either of them. They are all lies. Atheists are not "being mislead we just don't believe the fairy tails. We see through the bullshit of religion and question everything until we get an answer that has proof for it being correct. Please look up information on what you will be commenting on before you actually post the comment. That is if you want to look like less of an idiot!
XDarkxGirlx4everX 6 months ago
Athiest are dumb... There Are famous poeple who admit to selling there souls to the devil to gain riches... if they believe the devil is real then there must be a god..
03jack 6 months ago
@03jack WOW REALLY?? So if famous people believe in god, he must exist. Fuck science and evolution.
zacksyoutobe 6 months ago
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vikings believed in gods, like the god of thunder. when it was commonly known how thunder is made, no-one believes in him anymore. if there's ever going to be an perfect explanation of how the world was made, then no-one will believe in god also. but will probably never find out.
we as humans simply can't figure it out. prove me wrong.
IDONTGETTHEPOINT 6 months ago
vikings believed in gods, like the god of thunder. when it was commonly known how thunder is made, no-one believes in him anymore. if there's ever going to be an perfect explanation of how the world was made, then no-one will believe in god also. ut will probably never find out.
we as humans simply can't figure it out. prove me wrong.
IDONTGETTHEPOINT 6 months ago
think back to way back when before quantum mechanics. just because we hadnt figured it out at that time did not mean it didnt exist, or could be proven in the future. we have so much time ahead of us to grow and learn. dont put aside god/higher power/spirituality just because you cannot prove it. that is ignorance
paranoidandroid34 6 months ago
why dont questions like "how and where was the first proton created?" or particles in general. "what prompted the 'big bang'". we dont have answers for these questions but somehow they dont debunk science. just because we cannot prove something, does not mean it doesnt exist.
paranoidandroid34 6 months ago
well how did life start? the urey-miller experiment suggests that life was created from abiotic factors. science itself states that something cannot be created from nothing. why do people always ask "well where did god come from?" as if god was a physical thing like you and me. of course we as humans would think that god is first of all a he, but also we are trying to personify something that cannot be personified.
paranoidandroid34 6 months ago
So basically, there is something we can't explain, so we will just place "God" in there until we have an answer.
MJAS93 6 months ago
its hard for you to undersand but the truth is in heaven there is no time it is a dimention that is impossible for the human brain to comprehend .... the glory is too much for the human brain to comprehend .... i dont know wa church went to bu i've known that since i was 7 its hard to accept bu i accept it
stephen85598 6 months ago
@stephen85598 How is it hard to accept heaven? Infinite bliss or whatever people perceive heaven to be is much easier to accept than death.
sabbath580 6 months ago
@stephen85598 How difficult is it to accept something as real that has no evidence for it? Not difficult for some, very difficult for others.
No matter how difficult something may be to correctly comprehend, there is always time as long as anything happens.
You did not know that since you were 7. At 7 years old, you had no way of knowing such things. Someone convinced you when you were 7 & you've been blinded to the truth since then.
Strangerinasland 6 months ago
I died when i was 4 years old and got to see a pair of whitish golden gates after i was brought back i asked my grandpa why there was a police officer on a motorcycle on the other side of a windowless wall no one understands that without god we have just killed our last hope to be saved.
HopesAndDreamz77 6 months ago
@HopesAndDreamz77 Without your imaginary fiend, we have no hope of your imaginary fiend saving us from itself.
Strangerinasland 6 months ago
Time doesn't go backwards. If there's an infinite amount of time before us, that time has been passed. An infinite amount of time has been passed -- or not. If we are at "0" -- or any number -- we would be infinitely far ahead of any "negative infinity". For us to have reached this point in time, then, there cannot have been any such "negative infinity" time. There must, then, have been a start of time. Your counterargument was pretty awful.
rupertgriffin 6 months ago
@rupertgriffin Then we can never reach any point in time.
Strangerinasland 6 months ago
Yay, Evid3nc3! You rule!! Evid3nc3 for President! Evid3nc3 for President!!
lancethrustworthy 6 months ago
The candy bar theory is wrong beacuse it was eternity before with nothing but it never said at the end of infinity humans would be made so the candy bar theory is irelevent thank you and God bless beacuse he knows many of you need to be talked to by someone knowligable of faith
7finalacts 6 months ago
@xXZombiesGoRawrXx guess who created satin...
God did all satin is is one of Gods fallen angels nothing more he has no power in God
And if you beileve in satin then you must beileve in God beacuse he is Satins opposite and btw with Jesuses death and resurection satin has already lost but good try though the devil is just using you to spread doubt
7finalacts 6 months ago
@7finalacts
Sorry, couldnt stop myself from jumping on how you said satin instead of satan.
And why cant God stop Satan, if Satan has no power?
And why am i validating your ignorant beliefs with a counterpoint when you havent even ground to stand on.
Sorry, god is not real, nor has he ever been real, nor will he ever BE real.
Oldspiceguyshorse 6 months ago
@3demminsionaljoe yes actually there is evidence the mere fact that everything about our existence is perfect that if we were 1 more degree closer or further from the sun we would burn or freeze the fact that the atmosphere is perfect for holding oxygen which happens to be the main thing we need to live do you just consider that just lucky.......
No this shows there has to be someone there to create these conditions
7finalacts 6 months ago
Do you truly seek truth?
That is the question you must ask yourself.
It is written God is a Revealing God. So Seek the Truth. The best place? In front of The Altar in any Catholic Church, for there The Eucharist lies, waiting. for you to come and know Him.
diagrams and equations, science and astronomy, proof of theories not of God's existence. proof? what do people 'like'? beauty honor sacrifice truth - b/c they r little examples of who God is. Any Truth-seeking Q's? email me. FlopJack m sn
MrFlopJack 7 months ago
@MrFlopJack
Do you truly seek truth?
That is the question you must ask yourself.
It is written God is a Revealing God. So Seek the Truth. The best place? In front of The Plate in any Flying Spaghetti Monster Tabernacle, for there Bolognaise lies.
diagrams and equations, science and astronomy, proof of theories not of God's existence. proof? what do people 'like'? beauty honor sacrifice truth - b/c they r little examples of who God is. Any Truth-seeking Q's? email me.
mcpencil 6 months ago
Tell me this... Beginning from negative infinity at what point do you assign ANY number of the timeline? Where is zero? Where is the middle?
Everyone is so smart. They'd rather find what happened before we existed, than focus on how we exist together.
7thLyricality 7 months ago
God created time therefore nothing was before him
Kep0v 7 months ago
I can prove God is real. I found the Garden of Eden He created. Look at my Videos.
downyourtube 7 months ago
That was the dumbest thing I have ever heard. Why don't you take the candy bar and shove it up satans ass once u get to hell
dawgson7 7 months ago
Dude can u please just get me the candy bar?!?!?
TheKomets4 7 months ago
You have great videos man, Good job keep it up!
CANVECVIDEO 7 months ago
Shut Up!!! God is a dumeass dammit!!! Satan is our lord u stupid bitch...
xXZombiesGoRawrXx 7 months ago
@xXZombiesGoRawrXx you-you satanist... as an insult dumbass. why are you worshiping satan?! he is terrible!!!!! do you WANT to go to hell?!?!
Rainbowstar668 7 months ago
@xXZombiesGoRawrXx satan isnt real either
antman3456 7 months ago
I thought Steven Hawking said time had a beginning? Was his science wrong? And if people are saying time didn't have a beginning, what makes us think that it won't be wrong in the future?
longof99 7 months ago
religion is holding back humanity, if we ever hope to proceed spiritually and mentally we must shed the dogmas of yesterday.
BIGxBOB1212 7 months ago 30
@kordulus Well said and I 201% agree with you
peoplegoboom100 7 months ago
@pyrobryan Jesus chose to go to Hell to save our sins. Granted he didn't want to but that was the only way. Besides, on the third day Jesus rose to Heaven and was seated on the right hand side of the Lord Almighty. And God is a loving Father because he saved our souls through Jesus dieing on the cross, descending to Hell, and being risen. God Bless!
peoplegoboom100 7 months ago
I think you need to look at space-time and Stephen Hawking's book, The Grand Design. Time was once a space dimension, there was nothing before the point where time separated itself from the other space dimensions. There is nothing before this point because before describes time, not space.
So, no creator was necessary. This keeps things within the bounds of our universe without going into a multiverse which is obviously harder to argue about. No god necessary, no negative infinity implied.
aj00200 7 months ago
Strangely, I understand the candy bar argument. If this instant is zero on the timeline, we can never get to a moment in time that is infinitely far from now through a succession of moments. Thus, it is not possible for us to have reached this moment from an infinite recession of moments. Interesting thought...
pyrobryan 7 months ago
If god is real then when Adam and eve had sex they had 2 boys eve must of had sex with them then so on so evert
MyFrazzled 7 months ago
The human brain works this way. to us in order for something to exist or have existed, it needs a start. According to the faithful,Our human minds are not powerful enough and not built to understand how something can exist without a beginning,to understand that something can live without birth is impossible to us bit only because we are naturally built to not understand it.
kordulus 7 months ago
who gives a fuck ok
DawnCraig37 7 months ago
Time is yet another Simulacrum that only exists in our minds. Because we can pose the question of "When did the universe begin", doesn't mean there's a concrete answer. There is no time. There is no begin. There is no end. Live not in questions with no answers. Live in curiosity, creation and purging.
howitzer24 7 months ago
God was not "caused" he has always been.
smurfboywv 7 months ago
if god is real, may i be killed in 5 seconds... no, im still here, btw you look like a peadophile
aaron19951995 7 months ago
hey there cutie the lightly scruffy justin timberlake look is definitely a good one for yeah, you should do that more often WOOF!
the1tigglet 7 months ago
FUCK YOUR GOD!!!!!!!!TENTACLES UP MY ASS IS ALL I NEED!
MonticoreVonKush 7 months ago
@12guageboom If there were no problems there would be no evil with no evil there would be no good because evil exsists in the presence of good & besides most problems occur by human nature and God gave mankind the power of free will. Say you have a very strict father who wants his child to be a doctor. Well the child hates anything medical and wants to become a preformer, now if the father forced the child to be a doctor, the child would become a miserable person. Thats not a very loving father.
peoplegoboom100 7 months ago
@peoplegoboom100 Yes, a true loving father will send you to burn in undescribably torture and pain for all of eternity if you don't do what he says. Infinite punishment for finite wrongs. I love you, too, daddy.
pyrobryan 7 months ago
I am an atheist but I think the video poster misunderstood the argument.
If the universe existed for an eternity before us, then there would be some point in time that will never reach us. That creates a paradox that needs answering.