Taking your outstanding closing statement to heart : "Like Sen. Paul on Letterman’s program, the most an honest person can do is wave the flag of truth, watch the sparks fly, and let the chips fall where they may. Changing hearts and minds is a messy and often thankless business. But it is also the only moral reason for even being involved in politics in the first place."
That was indeed a superb argument. It was air tight. I back Ron and Rand Paul 100%, but even so, I try to find air holes in arguments such as this one-- it makes them stronger if you can find their flaws... I could not find any flaws with this argument other than some very slight ad hominim leaning, but it was ever so slight.
It's funny how these big tax types don't bother to send more of their spending monies to the Government. Instead of eating at them expensive restaurants, driving expensive cars, and living in big houses take that cash and send it to their God, Big Government.
I do not think Mr. Letterman was just trying to funny. Most liberals I have delt with have this same mentality. They come at you with rhetoric and when you come back with facts, figures, and logic; they respond with sarcasism and denial. With their hearts on their sleaves and with their eyes shut is how they think, react and live.
@EvilMonkeyAbq It's been that way since the Vietnam War, when liberals led us into the war, didn't know what to do, shoved move and more troops in there while trying their hands behind their backs, and when Gen Westmoreland had got within a whisker of winning, they got rid of him, and yet, these same liberals demonised Nixon for pulling troops out AND winning the war, and THEN, when North Vietnam re-invaded in 1975, that same liberal (aka Democrat) Congress sat back and did nothing.
@kraksc The way to regulation the 'derivatives market' is to take away the mania induced binge caused by the Federal Reserve and let market forces of risk and reward take hold. People risk more when they have nothing to lose.
Whatever you might say about taxes, the wealth distribution in this country is ridiculous. Also, as a student, I have experienced what occurs when we cut education first hand. The poor won't be able to afford higher education in the first place without putting themselves into an insane amount of debt. Tuition constantly rising. Class rooms balloon in size and teachers get overwhelmed. Outdated textbooks and no extracurricular activities--for the poor and dying middle class, anyway.
@AnimeGeno The reason the we can't afford education is because we keep subsidizing it. The more money the feds pump in, the higher the prices will go. And by the way, as a poor college students, my spouse and I almost payed cash for 2 bachelors degrees, on one doctorate. You just have to plan, work, and sacrifice.
Though you would think someone with such a powerful message and and well known figure (Letterman.) would be a little more understanding and ope, because I'm sure he sets the example for many people. By this thinking alone, Letterman fails!
Rand Paul is such a redneck, he actually wore "jeans" to meet David Letterman? What was he thinking? That act alone pretty much killed any chance for him to move forward.
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People who wear jeans are uneducated and largely from the south or other backwards areas. Rand Paul proved he isn't a thinking American, just a dumb hillbilly. So it was good Letterman crushed him during the interview.
@MikeyMan24 - thanks, you can tell how serious a person is by how they dress. rand paul was geared to plant corn, not be a leader in this interview. i don't sense anyone would want a corn farmer as a senator, so david called him out on it and that led to his demise during the interview.
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if rand paul was interviewing at a truck stop, he was dressed appropriately, but to go up against one of our nation's top political king makers, it showed a complete lack of understanding of how politics work.
@Tnoy34rt Letterman should go into politics. Because if he can crush a Senator (as a comedian) like that, without having any real apposing argument or fact. Then he must be a super genius politician, who should of been elected to president years ago. instead of a failing comedian, on late night network tv for the last 20 years. well said....
It's clear Rand Paul isn't very bright, and the guy doing the voiceover probably doesn't have a high school education. His comments are as backwards as it comes, is he from the South or something. It's like he might even believe in the bible! What an idiot.
@Tnoy34rt who are you working for? i mean seriously, who spends this much time on trying to discredit someone without having an agenda. you stupid jackass, are a tool.
@Lombokstrait1 - Exactly! Anyone who supports Rand Paul is supporting their own demise. The whole "Paul" movement is based on taking away money from the middle and poor classes and giving directly to the rich. Rand Paul is a pure puppet of the Koch Brothers, nothing more. Read about their secret scams here: (remove spaces of course)
To most liberals Paul “must be wrong” because in their view Paul has taken away the causes that are critical to explaining certain effects. Since the effect remains then there must be NO dismissal of what to them is the obvious cause. Eg, if education is lagging then it MUST be about lack of money, as no other cause & effect relationship makes sense. What is needed is for folks like Letterman to educate themselves in a whole new fashion about the legitimacy of their cause & effect assumptions.
@keithrockerboblewis Your theory would only work with a flat tax. As it is, the top 5 percent of taxpayers pay more than one-half of all individual income taxes, but only earn about one-third of all income.
@farber207 I'm sure not an economist, but the census data shows the top 1% earning about 37%. The top 5% must be higher than a third. I'm not trying to be argumentative. I'm just trying to understand.
I think it's a good thing Rand Paul got on David Letterman's show, regardless of Letterman's willful ignorance. Like I said, it's better to speak to a host and audience that is antagonistic, rather than preaching to the choir with a sympathetic host and audience. That's the best way to get your ideas out there. So Rand certainly did a good job. In fact, Letterman's silliness only helps validate and vindicate Rand Paul even further.
IF rich guys like Letterman want to pay higher taxes then they should be allowed to do so. If they want to give more money to schools then they should start writing checks. But they have no moral right to force every other 'rich' person to do the same. Ironically if people used their own money to donate to schools, the schools may be more efficient because these people will wind up being more involved in making sure the money is put to good use. Making it a freer market.
You and your weapons are no match for their Tesla Death Ray. You are being provoked. If you rise up, you have done what they want you to do. They are going to PROVOKE us until we go completely nuts! That is the plan!
Why don't you just come out and tell us that what you really care about is the Freemason Satanic cult you are in, and the terrible plans you people have for Americans. A war has been declared on us, and you are talking about taxes? You know about Directed Energy Weapons, and Gangstalking, do you not? You know and you do nothing?
Why don't you show a graph showing how much tax people pay as a percentage of their income. The only reason the top 1% pay so much in taxes is that they have an absurd amount of money.
I'm not saying your numbers are meaningless, but if you want to be even handed. Tax payed as a percentage of the income is a more meaningful statistic to me.
@Buffalo122333 - why are you against people who tell the truth? rand paul made a complete fool of himself in this interview, everyone with half a brain agrees with that.
Letterman was right that the "rich" many of them have in mind (those in bed with big gov't) don't pay as many taxes as advertised through loopholes. That being said, I couldn't be more opposed to Letterman's ideology and schemes for our society.
Paul should've told him when you tax the rich, you distort investment capital decisions and slowly bleed jobs from your state. This argument can be buttressed with numbers. Letterman would've capitulated even more.
As wrong as Letterman may have been, he's still a comedian first and not much else. Nitpicking on Letterman is like nitpicking on a clown for being silly.
@gansmith People can identify with satire and comedy as easily if not more so than with serious discussion. Sarcasm is often acompanied by serious accusation and/or truth. Jokers like Bill Mahr & David Letterman in today's media age can have as much influence as Walter Cronkite or Dan Rather did in years gone by. In the colonial times opponents of Ben Franklin or Thomas Paine could have made the similar points as you just made of Letterman and their opponents did make similar claims.
@gansmith He is a comedian 1st, but unfortunately we live in a society of dumbed-down citizens that will believe his political opinions have lots of weight...even though he is just a foolish comedian.
@gansmith The problem is Letterman is not much of a comedian either. He's just a loud mouthed idiot--and mean spirited; a foil for jacobin sensibilities. As Bruce Willis says about a character in The whole nine yards: Not a good person. In the case of Paul and other conservatives that appear on his show, Letterman uses his "silliness" as a thin, thin vernier to cloak his malice--and does a poor job of it, for it is glaringly obvious.
@gansmith So if Hitler told a million jokes he wasn't evil anymore?
Letterman is part of the problem, comedian or not.
Liberal shows like Letterman's or the "daily show" often spread evil ideas with humor. Giving a free pass to "clowns" like Letterman just because they are "comedians" regardless of what they believe and how big their audience is borders on the insane.
If Letterman feels we need to tax the rich more...Rand should have told him to feel free to write a bigger check for his income taxes...one that would make him feel he is paying his "fair share". The IRS will accept it ya know.
They are both incompetent. The whole system is incompetent. We measure the GDP on dollars, not on actual physical production. The economy is a real thing, not an eosteric value placed on pieces of paper.
@Jeff5081, sorry, you may be the only one. I've had relatives and friends asking who are these guys. They're getting big mention in Wisconsin. As a fact, if they bank rolled TP events like you said, bfd. Soros bankrolls some pretty vile shit and no one says a peep.
Fact is, capitalism built this country. Liberals are doing their best to blame Conservatives for every ill. I say go back and look when this mess started, specifically the New Deal and entitlement spending.
Letterman is a total liberal hack, period. I also find it amusing how now everything is the Koch Brothers fault. What a load of shit. You libs should begin thinking for yourselves if possible rather than let msnbc and cnn do your thinking for you. NONE of you had one clue who the Kochs were until a Governor with a brass set decided to start having the hack unionistas start paying their fair share. Then the lib networks drag out Kock, impresonators making phone calls. Please, educate yourselves.
Fact: Top 2% in this country wealth has increase while the other 98% had either decreased or stayed the same. Why when we talk about budget cuts it effects only the lower and middle class and not the rich. Republicans need to stop talk about tax cuts. Also when rich people take government hand out its called subsides but when poor people do it, it is called welfare. Fuck the greedy rich
@snowpred How about FUCK both subsides and welfare. I admit, most republicans hare hypocrites because of that simple fact that they can't distinguish between the two forms of entitlements, nor can they distinguish between foreign entitlements. The business environment in America is crumbling. It's not just the Dems or the Reps, fault. It's both. It's ours. We're doomed.
The country is going to hell in a hatbox and I'm moving to Costa Rica. The Parties of Harry Truman and Herbert Hoover have successfully screwed the United States up beyond all recognition. Kelo v. City of New London, Gonzales v. Raich and the use of the Commerce Clause to justify any action our central government wishes to take have caused me to no longer love it; so I'm leaving it. The Union is likely to disintegrate in the wake of the states threatening to nullify the healthcare law anyway.
@Wallbangers I recently separated from the US Army. I have been a due paying member of the Oathkeeper since the beginning and was 100% open with my intentions to uphold me oath, even to my commanders.
My favorite part was at :41 when the term "beleaguered rich" was used without a trace of irony. Seriously? Rand Paul is just another defender of rampant corporatism. His shameless sucking up to BP during last year's disaster in the gulf was sickening.
@SONOFABITCH - Yep, Rand Paul is another ignorant pawn of the Koch Brothers, so it's sad there are still a few people that still fall for Paul's backstabbing of America.
@Tasadaru - Yeah, Jay Leno is more for the blue collar, uneducated types which is more Rand Paul's market segment. Letterman is more for white collar and intellectuals.
@Tnoy34rt Intellects are uneducated in many things too. Look no further than this brilliant display of political knowledge Letterman and his applause metered audience show.
I would have preferred to watch and listen to the actual segment myself and come to my own conclusion. I don't need this narrative assessment to tell me what just went down between David and Rand. I did not see this episode for my self and if it did indeed go down as I was just told it did. Then why could you not just play the clip and let me listen for my self? Most Americans are not the idiots you need us to be or portray us to be!!!
@dartmusic1 the original clip was everywhere days before this was posted. takes less the time you spent typing to find it.. not the idiot you're portraying yourselfas either?
@dartmusic1 Why listen to this narrative and take the time to type this out, when you could have gone and found the actual clip then? And is this your first SA clip or something? This is how Jack always does these clips and you should not be acting like he clearly thinks you're a moron.
Yes, Jack is correct that the rich pay more in taxes than others. Because they have more money - 20% of 1 Billion dollars is a great deal more than 20% of $20,000. But they pay less net taxes than those with lower incomes. Because they lobbied to get the right to write the tax code, and have dozens of loopholes in which to hide their money so it is NOT taxed. Yet they still get dividends, etc. Why should I pay 35% of my income, and a billionaire 15%? Hardly equitable.
"The most an honest person can do is wave the flag of truth, watch the sparks fly, and let the chips fall where they may. Changing hearts and minds is a messy and often thankless business, but it is also the only moral reason for even being involved in politics in the first place."
great stuff jack. i think that these appearances by senator paul and other pro liberty advocates will continue to attract those who have not yet heard the truth to comprehend and agree with the points being made. it is easier for letterman to act silly and funny(yes i know thats what he is paid to do) than to become educated and infromed on important data and reality. keep the videos coming, you are one of my favorites. thanks
Changing hearts and minds is indeed what it is all about. I thank God for everyone involved on a daily basis doing just that by presenting the facts and telling the truth. Special thanks to Rand Paul and Jack Hunter and a hat tip to every one of you reading this thread and doing what you can in your own sphere of influence!!
that interview was painful to watch. letterman just looked like a jackass that had no idea what he was talking about and had no evidence or data to support any of his theories or claims. how people in the audience could clap is beyond me...
It wasn't actually painful, it just wasn't really funny. Letterman was being too serious because his political bias bleed into the interview too much and it was more awkward than painful.
The only worthy Late Night Talk show host is at 1 in the morning, Craig Ferguson. it makes me sick to see this jackass getting millions of dollars saying pathetic political jokes to the neocons he hates while giving all the credit for those jokes that is written by scriptwriters. But the thing that sickens me to death is the audience members of Letterman & Bill Maher. Just a bunch of dumbasses it makes me so angry at times.
The audience applauding has also been taught that diversity and multiculturalism is somehow good and importing millions of immigrants, many which do not value education and have none to start with has no effect on education in america or our imminent third world future. How we will not end up as a squabbling, backward tribal nation, ungovernable and broke is puzzling. For education to take place, you need 3 things, a teacher, a student and a parents involvement, we blame only teachers.
I didnt think the interview was painful to watch and I found it a little entertaining. My only problem with Rand's response to Letterman is that he did not bring up the bailouts for the rich and how he was against it .
David Letterman being willfully ignorant? That's not surprising, all late night talk show hosts make their bread and butter on being ignorant. I just don't get the point on Rand saying spending more money on education has not improved educational outcomes. Is he saying that we shouldn't give more money to education? That's an absurd thing to say. No wonder why the audience was applauding Letterman on that one.
@ChameleonLost88 spending more money on education can improve outcomes, that's undeniable. However i think the relevant point is the institutional dynamics that the money flows into. Since the public sector institutions are insulated from consumer or in this case taxpayer defection more money into a particular institution is less likely to have an impact on performance then if the institution could fail rather rapidly. I think that's the fundamental point regarding performance, EXIT, not just $
@ChameleonLost88 Rand said spending on money has not improved educational outcomes because our spending on education has multiplied many times over in the past 30 years, with no educational improvement at all. If spending improved education we'd be #1 in the world. The audience applauded because they are ignorant of the facts.
@AynRandFanJG So are you saying that we should cut education spending then? That's what is sounds like, and I think that's what it sounded like to the audience. Plus overall schools don't have allot of money. Several schools across the county close down. Teachers get laid off. In conjunction of what they get from the government, they get a fraction of state gambling income, and they still have to do fund raisers just to get supplies for education. It's no cake walk for them.
@ChameleonLost88 yes, that is what I am saying. It is idiotic to continue throwing money at a failed system. Charter schools cost 25% less than public district schools. Vouchers cost much less. We can get rid of obscene pensions and high pay for bad teachers. We can slash admin costs. Most of these actions will improve education, none will make it worse.
Letterman's audience, like him, are uninformed and ignorant.
@ChameleonLost88 I personally think that Republicans are greedy uncaring corporate shills, like Democrats. But that doesn't mean anything in the context of this conversation. Vastly increased public education spending has not improved public education one iota. It is simply idiotic to argue for such spending when they don't improve outcomes, and when they bankrupt states. If you want to talk education, I can talk education. Do you want to talk education?
@AynRandFanJG I don't think the answer is to cut education spending. I don't think it's idiotic to argue against cutting spending for education. To me that just makes the conservative side on that issue crass and uncaring. In the end I just guess we are on different sides of the fence on this one.
@ChameleonLost88 It is idiotic to argue against cutting spending for education if you know that the money is being wasted & is not providing quality education. This isn't a conservative argument, this is an education argument. If you want to provide quality education, you provide quality education. If you want to defend the bloated spending you are doing it for unions, administrators, contractors and teachers. If we are on opposite sides of the fence then you are on the anti-education side.
@AynRandFanJG I'm anti-education huh.... Your answer is to cut education spending on a system that does not get enough money and you call me anti-education? Really!? And if there is wasteful spending on education, we should get to the root of the problem, not cut their funds off on a struggling system, Again, that's not the answer...
@ChameleonLost88 You are either anti-education or anti-logic. The US spends more per pupil on education than any major industrialized nation. For you to say we don't spend enough is idiotic. The system doesn't struggle for lack of funds, it struggles for lack of competition, unionization, and politically driven distractions. You don't provide any answers, you just reflexively say "don't cut!" That is not an answer, that is insanity according to Einstein.
@AynRandFanJG That's ok you don't prove any logic either because you're an Ayn Rand fan. Ayn is anti-logic garbage. You talk about Letterman being dumb (and I don't disagree with you on that point) But Ayn is just beyond dumb... To bad her garbage has infected you to this point.
@ChameleonLost88 Ha ha, I provided the logic, you just can't comprehend it. Now, at a loss for words, you insult an author who argued for relying on logic and reason. You crack me up. Keep clapping.
@AynRandFanJG Hey, I stood up to my side and you stood up to yours. Because of it you called me anti-education and anti-logic. btw I found this I think you'll like: “Who is Ayn Rand?” -John Galt on Ayn Rand “No, no, no, socialism is the only form of government under which one can attain true individualism.” -Oscar Wilde on Ayn Rand's theories “Fuck off.” -Ayn Rand on the above “Heathen! You be'ist the Antichrist!” -Ayn Rand on Altruism “Can we get on the article now please?” -someone
@ChameleonLost88 My side was based on objective reality. Increased spending has not resulted in improved educational outcomes. We outspend every other major industrial nation on education and perform terribly. Your side believes that cutting education is bad just because. No logic. I said I was for improving education. You simply said you were against spending cuts. No logic, anti-logic, anti-education.
Your quotes mean nothing. Do you have a position? Have you even read any of her work?
@ChameleonLost88 I was actually hoping to get you to put forth a logical argument, or acknowledge the truth. I'm guessing that neither are very high on your priority list.
@AynRandFanJG At this point no, I'm already bored with it. I said what I had to say. You said what you had to say. We disagree with each other. You think I'm anti-education or anti-logic because of my stance. I think Ayn Rand is anti-education and or anti-logic. I mean, what's more to say really? Plus I'm back and forth watching other videos and watching the best of Carol Burnett on TV. I guess if we were in front of each other we could drink some wine and spend the rest of the eve disagreeing.
@ChameleonLost88 Instead of insulting a dead author that you never read, you should try to actually think about what you are saying. You are anti-logic and anti-reason. Use logic, use reason, and you won't come across as such a useful idiot.
@AynRandFanJG Ayn Rand is also well known for her contribution to the English language, by creating the official Most Boring Waste of Time Ever Written, her novel "Atlas Shrugged." In her books she famously chastises communists, blacks, Jews, homosexuals, and Russians like herself. Conspicuously, one group that she does NOT chastise is the Nazi Party. You may draw your own conclusions.
@ChameleonLost88 Funny, have you ever read any of her books. She doesn't denigrate blacks, Jews, or homosexuals. She does denigrate Communists though. She didn't denigrate pedophiles nor Nazis though - does that mean she supported pedophile Nazis??? If you had ever read Atlas Shrugged you would know that she abhored Nazism, and if you had known the Musolini banned her works you might get that her works opposed fascism. Try reading The Fountainhead or Atlas Shrugged. Warning, no pictures.
@AynRandFanJG What now? I didn't comprehend what you typed out there. Anyway, That's up to you if you want to be a Nazi that's into kids but it's wrong. I hope you get caught by the cops if your fetish manifests it self in the physical.... shame on you...
@ChameleonLost88 You are such a child, you refuse to take my words as they are, you distort like a 7-yr-old. Then again, I've never found those who rail against Ayn Rand without reading her books as mature. And those who complain most about pedophilia tend to be the ones that are molesting them behind the pews.
@ChameleonLost88 No, people who take a comment and distort it to accuse others of pedophilia are childish and those who protest the most are often degenerates in disguise. You may want to read some Ayn Rand, you have made it clear that you are completely ignorant on her, her novels, and her philosophy. It may play out well in your rants against capitalism, tea parties, taxpayers, etc., but it exposes you as an ignorant imp.
@AynRandFanJG Who the hell is Ayn Rand? Is she one of the people that drank some tea and died along with Jim Jones? And are you saying I'm a 7-yr-old ignorant imp that is anti-logic or something? And who the hell are you to say those things to me? Any Rand or something. I though she died following Jim Jones or something.
@ChameleonLost88 - Ayn Rand was a jewish lunatic that never made an ounce of sense. She played to the uneducated in societies of the 1920's. Today, everyone laughs at her drivel.
@Tnoy34rt a jewish lunatic... the uneducated. wow. you're a true racist and an asshole for feeding into the ideas of having social classes. douchebag.
@mrmarler - No, I never said anything racist, I simply stated the race and the mental condition of the person in question. Why are you SO against people who tell the truth? It seems odd.
All the facts are false and are made up ,typical .
bonnevie9 7 months ago
Brilliant absolutely Brilliant
TommyGaupo86 7 months ago
Letterman's "top ten" ....and the #1 on his list...Letterman is owned by Rand Paul!
TheNova1960 10 months ago
Letterman is a stooge.
greenback001 11 months ago
Taking your outstanding closing statement to heart : "Like Sen. Paul on Letterman’s program, the most an honest person can do is wave the flag of truth, watch the sparks fly, and let the chips fall where they may. Changing hearts and minds is a messy and often thankless business. But it is also the only moral reason for even being involved in politics in the first place."
citizenBNW 11 months ago 3
That was indeed a superb argument. It was air tight. I back Ron and Rand Paul 100%, but even so, I try to find air holes in arguments such as this one-- it makes them stronger if you can find their flaws... I could not find any flaws with this argument other than some very slight ad hominim leaning, but it was ever so slight.
terr547 11 months ago
This has to be one of the lamest interviews Letterman has ever conducted. He wasn't well prepared.
misterjag 11 months ago
It's funny how these big tax types don't bother to send more of their spending monies to the Government. Instead of eating at them expensive restaurants, driving expensive cars, and living in big houses take that cash and send it to their God, Big Government.
GrayGhost8 11 months ago
I do not think Mr. Letterman was just trying to funny. Most liberals I have delt with have this same mentality. They come at you with rhetoric and when you come back with facts, figures, and logic; they respond with sarcasism and denial. With their hearts on their sleaves and with their eyes shut is how they think, react and live.
EvilMonkeyAbq 1 year ago
@EvilMonkeyAbq It's been that way since the Vietnam War, when liberals led us into the war, didn't know what to do, shoved move and more troops in there while trying their hands behind their backs, and when Gen Westmoreland had got within a whisker of winning, they got rid of him, and yet, these same liberals demonised Nixon for pulling troops out AND winning the war, and THEN, when North Vietnam re-invaded in 1975, that same liberal (aka Democrat) Congress sat back and did nothing.
Wankers.
DunlopDaytona 11 months ago 2
indoctrinate |inˈdäktrəˌnāt|
verb [ trans. ]
teach (a person or group) to accept a set of beliefs uncritically : broadcasting was a vehicle for indoctrinating the masses.
• archaic teach or instruct (someone) : he indoctrinated them in systematic theology.
ubetcha13 1 year ago
Once again Jack, top marks. Sound thinking, and outstanding delivery.
basilrathboneisgone 1 year ago
The interview wasn't that bad. Can anyone here tell me Dr. Paul's take on regulating the derivatives market.
kraksc 1 year ago
@kraksc The way to regulation the 'derivatives market' is to take away the mania induced binge caused by the Federal Reserve and let market forces of risk and reward take hold. People risk more when they have nothing to lose.
kihjin 1 year ago
@kihjin Though your main points about the subject are on the mark. The rest of your answer is a bit cryptic.
kraksc 1 year ago
I can't believe this is the same David Letterman who voted for Ron Paul in 1988!!!
watch?v=mY5BZzOFtt4
purplefetus3 1 year ago
rand is a kook
savemyplaylist 1 year ago
@savemyplaylist if kook you mean awesome then yes
rast123456789 11 months ago
Whatever you might say about taxes, the wealth distribution in this country is ridiculous. Also, as a student, I have experienced what occurs when we cut education first hand. The poor won't be able to afford higher education in the first place without putting themselves into an insane amount of debt. Tuition constantly rising. Class rooms balloon in size and teachers get overwhelmed. Outdated textbooks and no extracurricular activities--for the poor and dying middle class, anyway.
AnimeGeno 1 year ago
@AnimeGeno The reason the we can't afford education is because we keep subsidizing it. The more money the feds pump in, the higher the prices will go. And by the way, as a poor college students, my spouse and I almost payed cash for 2 bachelors degrees, on one doctorate. You just have to plan, work, and sacrifice.
thefish103 11 months ago
Wait, raise them again? What about just returning them to how they were?
AnimeGeno 1 year ago
Though you would think someone with such a powerful message and and well known figure (Letterman.) would be a little more understanding and ope, because I'm sure he sets the example for many people. By this thinking alone, Letterman fails!
scalp340 1 year ago
thanks you SA for helping understand that interview with rand paul and letterman our tax situation is odd indeed
DataSerpent 1 year ago
Rand Paul is such a redneck, he actually wore "jeans" to meet David Letterman? What was he thinking? That act alone pretty much killed any chance for him to move forward.
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People who wear jeans are uneducated and largely from the south or other backwards areas. Rand Paul proved he isn't a thinking American, just a dumb hillbilly. So it was good Letterman crushed him during the interview.
Tnoy34rt 1 year ago
@Tnoy34rt
jeans exemplifies someones personality you're spot on sir..and by judging by all of the rest of your comments, you are simply brilliant!
MikeyMan24 1 year ago
@MikeyMan24 - thanks, you can tell how serious a person is by how they dress. rand paul was geared to plant corn, not be a leader in this interview. i don't sense anyone would want a corn farmer as a senator, so david called him out on it and that led to his demise during the interview.
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if rand paul was interviewing at a truck stop, he was dressed appropriately, but to go up against one of our nation's top political king makers, it showed a complete lack of understanding of how politics work.
Tnoy34rt 1 year ago
@Tnoy34rt
LOL
get a life
Voy2378 1 year ago
@Tnoy34rt Letterman should go into politics. Because if he can crush a Senator (as a comedian) like that, without having any real apposing argument or fact. Then he must be a super genius politician, who should of been elected to president years ago. instead of a failing comedian, on late night network tv for the last 20 years. well said....
scalp340 1 year ago
Let's just make sure Rand Paul doesn't get re-elected, then America will prosper.
Tnoy34rt 1 year ago
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@Tnoy34rt seriously you are a moron.
mrmarler 1 year ago
It's clear Rand Paul isn't very bright, and the guy doing the voiceover probably doesn't have a high school education. His comments are as backwards as it comes, is he from the South or something. It's like he might even believe in the bible! What an idiot.
Tnoy34rt 1 year ago
@Tnoy34rt who are you working for? i mean seriously, who spends this much time on trying to discredit someone without having an agenda. you stupid jackass, are a tool.
mrmarler 1 year ago
@mrmarler - I'm retired, so I'm working for America... why do you ask?
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No, I only post factual information, so why are you so concerned?
Tnoy34rt 1 year ago
the beleaguered rich? the rich in this country have never been richer.
it's the middle class that is getting wiped out.
Southern aristocrat is more like it. You are a twit. America is waking up.
the 2nd guilded age is in it's last chapters.
Lombokstrait1 1 year ago
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@Lombokstrait1 - Exactly! Anyone who supports Rand Paul is supporting their own demise. The whole "Paul" movement is based on taking away money from the middle and poor classes and giving directly to the rich. Rand Paul is a pure puppet of the Koch Brothers, nothing more. Read about their secret scams here: (remove spaces of course)
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Tnoy34rt 1 year ago
Americans truly are stupid
WarDogLRS 1 year ago
As usual Jack hits it out of the park...although Letterman is just a comedian
NCIcaucus 1 year ago
To most liberals Paul “must be wrong” because in their view Paul has taken away the causes that are critical to explaining certain effects. Since the effect remains then there must be NO dismissal of what to them is the obvious cause. Eg, if education is lagging then it MUST be about lack of money, as no other cause & effect relationship makes sense. What is needed is for folks like Letterman to educate themselves in a whole new fashion about the legitimacy of their cause & effect assumptions.
TulliusVII 1 year ago
The top 50% make more than 96% of the money so they should be paying more than 96% of the taxes. Is that wrong?
keithrockerboblewis 1 year ago
@keithrockerboblewis Your theory would only work with a flat tax. As it is, the top 5 percent of taxpayers pay more than one-half of all individual income taxes, but only earn about one-third of all income.
farber207 1 year ago
@farber207 I'm sure not an economist, but the census data shows the top 1% earning about 37%. The top 5% must be higher than a third. I'm not trying to be argumentative. I'm just trying to understand.
keithrockerboblewis 1 year ago
@keithrockerboblewis Then they should be getting 96% of the benefits as well then.
steve0281 1 year ago
I love that Senator Al Franken is Paul's Mentor. Keep up Sonny!
superbeavo 1 year ago
Jack Hunter's annoying delivery!
superbeavo 1 year ago
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superbeavo 1 year ago
I think it's a good thing Rand Paul got on David Letterman's show, regardless of Letterman's willful ignorance. Like I said, it's better to speak to a host and audience that is antagonistic, rather than preaching to the choir with a sympathetic host and audience. That's the best way to get your ideas out there. So Rand certainly did a good job. In fact, Letterman's silliness only helps validate and vindicate Rand Paul even further.
Akatam0t0ma 1 year ago
Big change from the Letterman who supported Ron in his presidential race in '88.
shesapainter 1 year ago
@shesapainter Didn't know Letterman supported RP in '88.
JapanUSACoalition 1 year ago
Ignorance of Leftists is Appalling!
The Richest people in America are Business Owners.
Business Owners are the Only Ones who give Private Sector Jobs!
Government Jobs are Paid with Tax Money, so they Subtract from the Economy!!
American Conservative Values:
God, Family, Honor - Truth, Limited Government, Responsibility, Free Markets, Common Sense.
Libbie 'progressive' values:
Atheism, Abortion, Hate - Lies, BIG Government, Nanny State, Socialism/Communism, "Whatever".
3martijns 1 year ago
The liberals are the conservatives. The conservatives are the liberals.
Ponerology 1 year ago
IF rich guys like Letterman want to pay higher taxes then they should be allowed to do so. If they want to give more money to schools then they should start writing checks. But they have no moral right to force every other 'rich' person to do the same. Ironically if people used their own money to donate to schools, the schools may be more efficient because these people will wind up being more involved in making sure the money is put to good use. Making it a freer market.
19TEC85 1 year ago
DON'T BUY INTO THE TRAP OF RISING UP!!!
You and your weapons are no match for their Tesla Death Ray. You are being provoked. If you rise up, you have done what they want you to do. They are going to PROVOKE us until we go completely nuts! That is the plan!
ella5024 1 year ago
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ella5024 1 year ago
Rifle Prayer:
"Lord Jesus in Thy name we pray
With authority granted us this day.
All Baals of Babylon be torn down
We raze their temples to the ground.
Lay low their sacred groves, tear down all their strongholds
Let Satan's Asherah cease. We dethrone, behead, defeat
All ungodly powers, crushed beneath our feet"
ella5024 1 year ago
Why don't you just come out and tell us that what you really care about is the Freemason Satanic cult you are in, and the terrible plans you people have for Americans. A war has been declared on us, and you are talking about taxes? You know about Directed Energy Weapons, and Gangstalking, do you not? You know and you do nothing?
ella5024 1 year ago
Why don't you show a graph showing how much tax people pay as a percentage of their income. The only reason the top 1% pay so much in taxes is that they have an absurd amount of money.
I'm not saying your numbers are meaningless, but if you want to be even handed. Tax payed as a percentage of the income is a more meaningful statistic to me.
clizzaster 1 year ago
One of your better videos, particularly the closing.
selfrealizedexile 1 year ago
@selfrealizedexile - but you still have to admit the guy that made this video is clearly uneducated.
Tnoy34rt 1 year ago
I've been boycotting Letterman for years.
I suggest everyone do the same.
Buffalo122333 1 year ago
@Buffalo122333 - why are you against people who tell the truth? rand paul made a complete fool of himself in this interview, everyone with half a brain agrees with that.
Tnoy34rt 1 year ago
Letterman was right that the "rich" many of them have in mind (those in bed with big gov't) don't pay as many taxes as advertised through loopholes. That being said, I couldn't be more opposed to Letterman's ideology and schemes for our society.
Paul should've told him when you tax the rich, you distort investment capital decisions and slowly bleed jobs from your state. This argument can be buttressed with numbers. Letterman would've capitulated even more.
selfrealizedexile 1 year ago
As wrong as Letterman may have been, he's still a comedian first and not much else. Nitpicking on Letterman is like nitpicking on a clown for being silly.
gansmith 1 year ago 10
@gansmith People can identify with satire and comedy as easily if not more so than with serious discussion. Sarcasm is often acompanied by serious accusation and/or truth. Jokers like Bill Mahr & David Letterman in today's media age can have as much influence as Walter Cronkite or Dan Rather did in years gone by. In the colonial times opponents of Ben Franklin or Thomas Paine could have made the similar points as you just made of Letterman and their opponents did make similar claims.
BradNC11175 1 year ago
@gansmith He is a comedian 1st, but unfortunately we live in a society of dumbed-down citizens that will believe his political opinions have lots of weight...even though he is just a foolish comedian.
lnsk 1 year ago
@gansmith The problem is Letterman is not much of a comedian either. He's just a loud mouthed idiot--and mean spirited; a foil for jacobin sensibilities. As Bruce Willis says about a character in The whole nine yards: Not a good person. In the case of Paul and other conservatives that appear on his show, Letterman uses his "silliness" as a thin, thin vernier to cloak his malice--and does a poor job of it, for it is glaringly obvious.
billyboy647 11 months ago 2
@gansmith So if Hitler told a million jokes he wasn't evil anymore?
Letterman is part of the problem, comedian or not.
Liberal shows like Letterman's or the "daily show" often spread evil ideas with humor. Giving a free pass to "clowns" like Letterman just because they are "comedians" regardless of what they believe and how big their audience is borders on the insane.
remyllebeau77 11 months ago 6
Letterman voted for Ron Paul when he was running for president back in the 80's. Sad. Tom Wood's is for good or for awesome.
jbutte 1 year ago
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Rand Paul = Moron
Tnoy34rt 1 year ago
@Tnoy34rt = Moron
poopstreek 1 year ago
@Tnoy34rt = statist
chuska8383 1 year ago
Letterman is a fool !
MrMICopperhead 1 year ago
I seem to remember Letterman endorsing Senator Paul's father when he ran for president as the Libertarian Party candidate in the 80's...
steve0281 1 year ago 13
@steve0281 - yes, but it was 1998 and it was "Ron" Paul, not his idiot son "Rand".
Tnoy34rt 1 year ago
@Tnoy34rt 1988...........
odinsragess 1 year ago
@steve0281 I seem to remember that being a joke.
CountArtha 9 months ago
@CountArtha Then you remember it differently than I do.
steve0281 9 months ago
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The guy doing the voiceover is as dumb as a box of rocks.
Tnoy34rt 1 year ago
If Letterman feels we need to tax the rich more...Rand should have told him to feel free to write a bigger check for his income taxes...one that would make him feel he is paying his "fair share". The IRS will accept it ya know.
pensword5 1 year ago
there is one wrong statement in this video:
"Letterman won't change his way of thinking"
should be
"Letterman won't change his way of not thinking"
Voy2378 1 year ago 2
Al Franken Actually told Rand Paul to tell Letterman that "He's not funny" That says it all right there!
Natendowii 1 year ago
They are both incompetent. The whole system is incompetent. We measure the GDP on dollars, not on actual physical production. The economy is a real thing, not an eosteric value placed on pieces of paper.
riethc 1 year ago
Letterman is a very typical Limousine Liberal. Only people in movies and television can be right about things, Conservatives cannot.
NoGuff 1 year ago 3
@Jeff5081, sorry, you may be the only one. I've had relatives and friends asking who are these guys. They're getting big mention in Wisconsin. As a fact, if they bank rolled TP events like you said, bfd. Soros bankrolls some pretty vile shit and no one says a peep.
Fact is, capitalism built this country. Liberals are doing their best to blame Conservatives for every ill. I say go back and look when this mess started, specifically the New Deal and entitlement spending.
obone1963 1 year ago
Letterman is a total liberal hack, period. I also find it amusing how now everything is the Koch Brothers fault. What a load of shit. You libs should begin thinking for yourselves if possible rather than let msnbc and cnn do your thinking for you. NONE of you had one clue who the Kochs were until a Governor with a brass set decided to start having the hack unionistas start paying their fair share. Then the lib networks drag out Kock, impresonators making phone calls. Please, educate yourselves.
obone1963 1 year ago
@obone1963 Uhhhh...Libs have known about the Koch brothers for a while now. They bankrolled a lot of the tea party events and were targeted for it.
jeff5081 1 year ago
Fact: Top 2% in this country wealth has increase while the other 98% had either decreased or stayed the same. Why when we talk about budget cuts it effects only the lower and middle class and not the rich. Republicans need to stop talk about tax cuts. Also when rich people take government hand out its called subsides but when poor people do it, it is called welfare. Fuck the greedy rich
snowpred 1 year ago 2
@snowpred But, Rand was against giving the rich money via subsidies. Debate on the topic at hand please.
Nillok 1 year ago
@Nillok Rand is against subsidies, special interests and lobbying. He rather sees that government stays out of businesses.
pierre1050 1 year ago
@snowpred How about FUCK both subsides and welfare. I admit, most republicans hare hypocrites because of that simple fact that they can't distinguish between the two forms of entitlements, nor can they distinguish between foreign entitlements. The business environment in America is crumbling. It's not just the Dems or the Reps, fault. It's both. It's ours. We're doomed.
AmericanLibertarian1 1 year ago
The country is going to hell in a hatbox and I'm moving to Costa Rica. The Parties of Harry Truman and Herbert Hoover have successfully screwed the United States up beyond all recognition. Kelo v. City of New London, Gonzales v. Raich and the use of the Commerce Clause to justify any action our central government wishes to take have caused me to no longer love it; so I'm leaving it. The Union is likely to disintegrate in the wake of the states threatening to nullify the healthcare law anyway.
BillKilgore1 1 year ago
Our military, law enforcement, and ELECTED OFFICIALS need to HONOR THEIR OATH TO THE U.S. CONSTITUTION!!!
oathkeepers
Wallbangers 1 year ago
@Wallbangers I recently separated from the US Army. I have been a due paying member of the Oathkeeper since the beginning and was 100% open with my intentions to uphold me oath, even to my commanders.
AmericanLibertarian1 1 year ago
My favorite part was at :41 when the term "beleaguered rich" was used without a trace of irony. Seriously? Rand Paul is just another defender of rampant corporatism. His shameless sucking up to BP during last year's disaster in the gulf was sickening.
SONOFABITCH 1 year ago
@SONOFABITCH - Yep, Rand Paul is another ignorant pawn of the Koch Brothers, so it's sad there are still a few people that still fall for Paul's backstabbing of America.
Tnoy34rt 1 year ago
Should have went on Jay Leno.
Tasadaru 1 year ago
@Tasadaru - Yeah, Jay Leno is more for the blue collar, uneducated types which is more Rand Paul's market segment. Letterman is more for white collar and intellectuals.
Tnoy34rt 1 year ago
@Tnoy34rt Intellects are uneducated in many things too. Look no further than this brilliant display of political knowledge Letterman and his applause metered audience show.
da324 1 year ago
I would have preferred to watch and listen to the actual segment myself and come to my own conclusion. I don't need this narrative assessment to tell me what just went down between David and Rand. I did not see this episode for my self and if it did indeed go down as I was just told it did. Then why could you not just play the clip and let me listen for my self? Most Americans are not the idiots you need us to be or portray us to be!!!
dartmusic1 1 year ago
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spyletu 1 year ago
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@dartmusic1 the original clip was everywhere days before this was posted. takes less the time you spent typing to find it.. not the idiot you're portraying yourselfas either?
spyletu 1 year ago
@dartmusic1 Why listen to this narrative and take the time to type this out, when you could have gone and found the actual clip then? And is this your first SA clip or something? This is how Jack always does these clips and you should not be acting like he clearly thinks you're a moron.
PorkFork 1 year ago
God bless you jack hunter.
suitabledude 1 year ago
Jack,
What did you expect Rand Paul to do on the Letterman show? Enlighten? Educate? Inform? Did you expect him to change minds?
To be come enlighten, one can show you the door, but ultimately you have to open the door yourself.
I feel even after Rand was showing the door to Letterman and his audience, he was simply too stupid to grasp the fact to open the door.
shiftstart 1 year ago
Yes, Jack is correct that the rich pay more in taxes than others. Because they have more money - 20% of 1 Billion dollars is a great deal more than 20% of $20,000. But they pay less net taxes than those with lower incomes. Because they lobbied to get the right to write the tax code, and have dozens of loopholes in which to hide their money so it is NOT taxed. Yet they still get dividends, etc. Why should I pay 35% of my income, and a billionaire 15%? Hardly equitable.
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"The most an honest person can do is wave the flag of truth, watch the sparks fly, and let the chips fall where they may. Changing hearts and minds is a messy and often thankless business, but it is also the only moral reason for even being involved in politics in the first place."
- Southern Avenger, Time 5:05
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Acrinimiril 1 year ago
great stuff jack. i think that these appearances by senator paul and other pro liberty advocates will continue to attract those who have not yet heard the truth to comprehend and agree with the points being made. it is easier for letterman to act silly and funny(yes i know thats what he is paid to do) than to become educated and infromed on important data and reality. keep the videos coming, you are one of my favorites. thanks
bstock21 1 year ago
Fcuking Brilliant Analysis. Thank you.
ostralopithicus 1 year ago 2
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Changing hearts and minds is indeed what it is all about. I thank God for everyone involved on a daily basis doing just that by presenting the facts and telling the truth. Special thanks to Rand Paul and Jack Hunter and a hat tip to every one of you reading this thread and doing what you can in your own sphere of influence!!
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scrosnoe 1 year ago
Letterman is a comedian. He was supposed to say dumb things. Seriously, people take things too seriously.
Nawledge1 1 year ago
@Nawledge1 No, he's supposed to say funny things, not dumb things. Unfortunately, he only succeeds on the dumb.
AynRandFanJG 1 year ago
@AynRandFanJG Agreed. Unfortunately, he USED to be a funny guy... decades ago.
thedemoboy 1 year ago
Letterman is just an asshole... He needs to STFU and go away!
Slave2Reason 1 year ago
that interview was painful to watch. letterman just looked like a jackass that had no idea what he was talking about and had no evidence or data to support any of his theories or claims. how people in the audience could clap is beyond me...
T0NNiX 1 year ago
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It wasn't actually painful, it just wasn't really funny. Letterman was being too serious because his political bias bleed into the interview too much and it was more awkward than painful.
RangerMcFriendlie 1 year ago
SA, we can't tax the middle class to death, we can't tax the poor, and if we can't tax the rich, what is the answer?
sinlaael 1 year ago
Rand Paul really goofed, Letterman crushed him at every turn.
Tnoy34rt 1 year ago
Willful Ignorance = Dumb on Purpose!
And he is one ignorant SOB.
cmc2234 1 year ago 2
Very well put, Hunter!
bronxer78 1 year ago
The only worthy Late Night Talk show host is at 1 in the morning, Craig Ferguson. it makes me sick to see this jackass getting millions of dollars saying pathetic political jokes to the neocons he hates while giving all the credit for those jokes that is written by scriptwriters. But the thing that sickens me to death is the audience members of Letterman & Bill Maher. Just a bunch of dumbasses it makes me so angry at times.
b07rivera 1 year ago
@b07rivera I agree. Craig Ferguson is the only one worth watching.
MagnusIan 1 year ago
@b07rivera i went to his show once. Btw, we cannot tell whether or not those applaus atually took plae when letterman said what he said.
sharinganclan213 1 year ago
The audience applauding has also been taught that diversity and multiculturalism is somehow good and importing millions of immigrants, many which do not value education and have none to start with has no effect on education in america or our imminent third world future. How we will not end up as a squabbling, backward tribal nation, ungovernable and broke is puzzling. For education to take place, you need 3 things, a teacher, a student and a parents involvement, we blame only teachers.
mrhulot101 1 year ago
I didnt think the interview was painful to watch and I found it a little entertaining. My only problem with Rand's response to Letterman is that he did not bring up the bailouts for the rich and how he was against it .
uche007us 1 year ago
I really don't know why on earth Paul would go on this show.
lockwoodisafaggot 1 year ago
The only thing i like about Letterman is that he plays chess.
megagagnon1 1 year ago
David Letterman being willfully ignorant? That's not surprising, all late night talk show hosts make their bread and butter on being ignorant. I just don't get the point on Rand saying spending more money on education has not improved educational outcomes. Is he saying that we shouldn't give more money to education? That's an absurd thing to say. No wonder why the audience was applauding Letterman on that one.
ChameleonLost88 1 year ago
@ChameleonLost88 spending more money on education can improve outcomes, that's undeniable. However i think the relevant point is the institutional dynamics that the money flows into. Since the public sector institutions are insulated from consumer or in this case taxpayer defection more money into a particular institution is less likely to have an impact on performance then if the institution could fail rather rapidly. I think that's the fundamental point regarding performance, EXIT, not just $
rayyf69 1 year ago
@ChameleonLost88 Rand said spending on money has not improved educational outcomes because our spending on education has multiplied many times over in the past 30 years, with no educational improvement at all. If spending improved education we'd be #1 in the world. The audience applauded because they are ignorant of the facts.
AynRandFanJG 1 year ago 2
@AynRandFanJG So are you saying that we should cut education spending then? That's what is sounds like, and I think that's what it sounded like to the audience. Plus overall schools don't have allot of money. Several schools across the county close down. Teachers get laid off. In conjunction of what they get from the government, they get a fraction of state gambling income, and they still have to do fund raisers just to get supplies for education. It's no cake walk for them.
ChameleonLost88 1 year ago
@ChameleonLost88 yes, that is what I am saying. It is idiotic to continue throwing money at a failed system. Charter schools cost 25% less than public district schools. Vouchers cost much less. We can get rid of obscene pensions and high pay for bad teachers. We can slash admin costs. Most of these actions will improve education, none will make it worse.
Letterman's audience, like him, are uninformed and ignorant.
AynRandFanJG 1 year ago 3
@AynRandFanJG And then you wonder why allot of people see Republicans as greedy uncaring corporate shills.
ChameleonLost88 1 year ago
@ChameleonLost88 I personally think that Republicans are greedy uncaring corporate shills, like Democrats. But that doesn't mean anything in the context of this conversation. Vastly increased public education spending has not improved public education one iota. It is simply idiotic to argue for such spending when they don't improve outcomes, and when they bankrupt states. If you want to talk education, I can talk education. Do you want to talk education?
AynRandFanJG 1 year ago
@AynRandFanJG I don't think the answer is to cut education spending. I don't think it's idiotic to argue against cutting spending for education. To me that just makes the conservative side on that issue crass and uncaring. In the end I just guess we are on different sides of the fence on this one.
ChameleonLost88 1 year ago
@ChameleonLost88 It is idiotic to argue against cutting spending for education if you know that the money is being wasted & is not providing quality education. This isn't a conservative argument, this is an education argument. If you want to provide quality education, you provide quality education. If you want to defend the bloated spending you are doing it for unions, administrators, contractors and teachers. If we are on opposite sides of the fence then you are on the anti-education side.
AynRandFanJG 1 year ago
@AynRandFanJG I'm anti-education huh.... Your answer is to cut education spending on a system that does not get enough money and you call me anti-education? Really!? And if there is wasteful spending on education, we should get to the root of the problem, not cut their funds off on a struggling system, Again, that's not the answer...
ChameleonLost88 1 year ago
@ChameleonLost88 You are either anti-education or anti-logic. The US spends more per pupil on education than any major industrialized nation. For you to say we don't spend enough is idiotic. The system doesn't struggle for lack of funds, it struggles for lack of competition, unionization, and politically driven distractions. You don't provide any answers, you just reflexively say "don't cut!" That is not an answer, that is insanity according to Einstein.
AynRandFanJG 1 year ago
@AynRandFanJG That's ok you don't prove any logic either because you're an Ayn Rand fan. Ayn is anti-logic garbage. You talk about Letterman being dumb (and I don't disagree with you on that point) But Ayn is just beyond dumb... To bad her garbage has infected you to this point.
ChameleonLost88 1 year ago
@ChameleonLost88 Ha ha, I provided the logic, you just can't comprehend it. Now, at a loss for words, you insult an author who argued for relying on logic and reason. You crack me up. Keep clapping.
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ChameleonLost88 1 year ago
@ChameleonLost88 My side was based on objective reality. Increased spending has not resulted in improved educational outcomes. We outspend every other major industrial nation on education and perform terribly. Your side believes that cutting education is bad just because. No logic. I said I was for improving education. You simply said you were against spending cuts. No logic, anti-logic, anti-education.
Your quotes mean nothing. Do you have a position? Have you even read any of her work?
AynRandFanJG 1 year ago
@AynRandFanJG Hey, wait a minute. Are you trying to get in the last word?
ChameleonLost88 1 year ago
@ChameleonLost88 I was actually hoping to get you to put forth a logical argument, or acknowledge the truth. I'm guessing that neither are very high on your priority list.
AynRandFanJG 1 year ago
@AynRandFanJG At this point no, I'm already bored with it. I said what I had to say. You said what you had to say. We disagree with each other. You think I'm anti-education or anti-logic because of my stance. I think Ayn Rand is anti-education and or anti-logic. I mean, what's more to say really? Plus I'm back and forth watching other videos and watching the best of Carol Burnett on TV. I guess if we were in front of each other we could drink some wine and spend the rest of the eve disagreeing.
ChameleonLost88 1 year ago
@ChameleonLost88 Instead of insulting a dead author that you never read, you should try to actually think about what you are saying. You are anti-logic and anti-reason. Use logic, use reason, and you won't come across as such a useful idiot.
AynRandFanJG 1 year ago
@AynRandFanJG Ayn Rand is also well known for her contribution to the English language, by creating the official Most Boring Waste of Time Ever Written, her novel "Atlas Shrugged." In her books she famously chastises communists, blacks, Jews, homosexuals, and Russians like herself. Conspicuously, one group that she does NOT chastise is the Nazi Party. You may draw your own conclusions.
ChameleonLost88 1 year ago
@ChameleonLost88 Um, she was a jew, douchebag.
ladyattis 1 year ago
@ladyattis asshole/bitch. How'd ya like that
don't call people names then
garycalgary 1 year ago
@garycalgary Awww U MAD?
ladyattis 1 year ago
@ChameleonLost88 Funny, have you ever read any of her books. She doesn't denigrate blacks, Jews, or homosexuals. She does denigrate Communists though. She didn't denigrate pedophiles nor Nazis though - does that mean she supported pedophile Nazis??? If you had ever read Atlas Shrugged you would know that she abhored Nazism, and if you had known the Musolini banned her works you might get that her works opposed fascism. Try reading The Fountainhead or Atlas Shrugged. Warning, no pictures.
AynRandFanJG 1 year ago
@AynRandFanJG Why would I want a Picture of Ayn Rand being a pedo nazi!!?? And why would you be talking about that kinda stuff to me for?!
ChameleonLost88 1 year ago
@ChameleonLost88 I was using your backward logic.
AynRandFanJG 1 year ago
@AynRandFanJG Well, you don't have to use backward logic with me. Because I don't want your pedo nazi pictures thank you!
ChameleonLost88 1 year ago
@ChameleonLost88 You never did very well in reading comprehension, did you?
AynRandFanJG 1 year ago
@AynRandFanJG What now? I didn't comprehend what you typed out there. Anyway, That's up to you if you want to be a Nazi that's into kids but it's wrong. I hope you get caught by the cops if your fetish manifests it self in the physical.... shame on you...
ChameleonLost88 1 year ago
@ChameleonLost88 You are such a child, you refuse to take my words as they are, you distort like a 7-yr-old. Then again, I've never found those who rail against Ayn Rand without reading her books as mature. And those who complain most about pedophilia tend to be the ones that are molesting them behind the pews.
AynRandFanJG 1 year ago
@AynRandFanJG Really!? So... anyone that complains about pedophilia are actually the child molestors? Did you also get that from Ayn Rand?
ChameleonLost88 1 year ago
@ChameleonLost88 No, people who take a comment and distort it to accuse others of pedophilia are childish and those who protest the most are often degenerates in disguise. You may want to read some Ayn Rand, you have made it clear that you are completely ignorant on her, her novels, and her philosophy. It may play out well in your rants against capitalism, tea parties, taxpayers, etc., but it exposes you as an ignorant imp.
AynRandFanJG 1 year ago
@AynRandFanJG Who the hell is Ayn Rand? Is she one of the people that drank some tea and died along with Jim Jones? And are you saying I'm a 7-yr-old ignorant imp that is anti-logic or something? And who the hell are you to say those things to me? Any Rand or something. I though she died following Jim Jones or something.
ChameleonLost88 1 year ago
@ChameleonLost88 - Ayn Rand was a jewish lunatic that never made an ounce of sense. She played to the uneducated in societies of the 1920's. Today, everyone laughs at her drivel.
Tnoy34rt 1 year ago
@Tnoy34rt a jewish lunatic... the uneducated. wow. you're a true racist and an asshole for feeding into the ideas of having social classes. douchebag.
mrmarler 1 year ago
@mrmarler - No, I never said anything racist, I simply stated the race and the mental condition of the person in question. Why are you SO against people who tell the truth? It seems odd.
Tnoy34rt 1 year ago
@ChameleonLost88 Sorry to pull you away from your algebra homework.