there was a degree of mutual self interest. Dylan might have stood to gain Baez’s audience, but the fact is that she run out of songs, so she needed an injection of real quality song writing, and Dylan gave her that.
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please someone shoot that bitch....what a pain she was/is /will always be ....i recall.seeing that appalling footage of her jumping on bobs gig at a large gathering in Washington ...bobs doing quite well singing "when the ship comes in"" then up jumps that wailing bint to grab her 15 secs of fame ,,,,,bitch!!!
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Bob, u are still a JEW.....from KS. U speak but u give no answers, u profititize (lol) but u answer no questions. U basically sing your songs and think that u are a poet, poets have starts and endings, u have neither...
@polmaccaba Not quite sure what being a jew would have to do with anything, i think we all know that. He never wished to be a 'profit' or a voice of the people, if you knew of him well enough you would see that for yourself. He strongly objectifies to that label that the media and his fans gave him, It burdened him mostly. And if poetry relies on a beginning and an end then he must be a poet. His songs had both right?
@polmaccaba Shut the fuck up and leave please you narrow minded Nazi. Bob is the greatest EVER, and you, well your just a jealous piece of trash. This conversation is over.
She should have been given a good slapping - and often. Probably still needs it. Poor Bob. He never knew that using someone to get somewhere would be sooo trying.
He was a jerk to her--but I think his serious relationship with Sara had more to do with their affair ending, when she found out about Sara. Not to mention that he really didn't have a commitment to social justice and non-violence like she did. I think he tried to make it up when he invited her on Rolling Thunder. Of course, if she hadn't just managed her hit "Diamonds and Rust," maybe he wouldn't have thought of her. She's not really without any flaws either, though.
@rockisbetter Well, he kind of used her to further his career. He didn't mention that he had this other steady girlfriend, for one thing. She brought him along with her on tour, and brought him out in front of her audiences, who weren't at first receptive to his singing, and sang with him, and promoted him--when she was the "Queen of Folk" music, a pop star. Then, when she accompanied him on the UK tour, he never brought her out on stage, and referred to her as a girlfriend.
@davidlenander As I noted in prev. post, she wasn't entirely the blameless, naive angel, either. But he and Richard Farina had apparently talked about how someone had to take advantage of this queen of folk (Farina went after the first "queen of folk," Carolyn Hester, and married her, then moved on to Baez's little sister) this is putting it pretty crudely, and I'm sure you could argue two sides to everything, but look at the book _Positively 4th Street_ by David Hajdu for a recent take.
@rockisbetter Well, he kind of used her to further his career. He didn't mention that he had this other steady girlfriend, for one thing. She brought him along with her on tour, and brought him out in front of her audiences, who weren't at first receptive to his singing, and sang with him, and promoted him--when she was the "Queen of Folk" music, a pop star. Then, when she accompanied him on the UK tour, he never brought her out on stage, and referred to her as a girlfriend.
@el3m3ntsk8s Of course folk music is hippie music......what do you think all the Hippies listened to? Bob and Joan were the king and queen of Hippies. Folk music was around before the Hippies but it got real popular in the mid to late sixties with Dylan.
@Flipper79able Queens I don't know about that. Folk music leans hippie, but not all of it. Guthrie was the king of folk music I beleive, and he wasn't a hippie. Joan was kind of conservative actually. Now the Dead, that was hippie music. The hippie movement that exploded during the summer of love was really more like texting and computers for every 20 something today, it was a fad for the average American kid of which there were a lot of at that time (baby boomers), and an reason not to fight.
@ThousandShakes Okay I guess we can split hairs on the issue. This is something Rock journalists argue about to this day. Like I said Folk music was around before the hippies but then got popular with them. Then the Beatles reintroduced Rock and Roll and there was a bit of a mix. It's not really a black and white issue. I will say San Francisco really created their own scene which became very hippie.
@el3m3ntsk8s all music is music the problem with this world is we group people dont group people as hippies or non hippies people are just them selves
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listen to her singing on an otherwise flawless album on 1975's Rolling Thunder Revue. Fuckin' brutal, completely ruined the great "I shall be released"
NaterNess18. Never presume, dear airhead, that someone who can string two coherent sentences together reads Wikipedia. 'Tis rarely the case. Wikipedia is for people who begin sentences with: "I see you found out how to.." It is the handbook for the hard of hearing.
Dylan saw that Joan's harmonizing just did not work with his singing. He was selfish for his art. We forgive him because of his youth and genius. The adulation of English fans on this tour went to his head. Baez had introduced him on stage back home when he was unknown and thought he would do the same for her. Baez was no nutcase "I was the only sane one at the party of the 60s" she said. Look at that irritating Neuwirth, sneering, mock-clowning,watching for his opportunity,a court jester
joan baez is the one who brought bob dylan on stage before he was even famous.. wen he got famous he refused to let her on stage which caused their split.
@tallyrulz that seems to be a trendy thing to say. bob dylan the folk singer was 10% of bob dylan. 10% of bob dylan without joan baez would be more appropriate.
uh....thats definitely not true....no baez without BOB DYLAN dumbass. joan was nothing more than a fling with bob, bob was never influenced by her to a certain extent, n she met him when he was getting real big....so i dont see how that would ever apply
@alexlancer11 im uploading no direction home at the min there is a part on it were joan tells the story about her doing big gigs and bringing bob on and promoting him. She then goes on to say how he left her stood in the wings watching him on stage once he was bigger than her. Its well documented
Joan once said she loved Dylan but she didn't like him. Remember the line from "Diamonds and Rust?" "My poetry was lousy he [Dylan] said." Yes he was a jerk in the early years. Ego inflated and self-centered. He's mellowed with age. I've been a Dylan fan since the very early 60s so I'm not bad mouthing him. Just truthing him.
@WFSSV Yeah well Joan didn't give a crap about stealing Bob from Suze! In fact, Suze stated in several interviews before she died that Joan didn't care about who she hurt! What goes around comes around.
Joan was widely considered to be a "hanger-on" by Dylan's entourage and most quickly tried of her almost slavish worship of Bob. Dylan entertained her flower-power tendencies and wishy-washy hippie politics as he found her devotion charming. He never took her seriously however, and his good-natured dismissal of her as an artist and a girlfriend is well documented.
Baez is such a nutcase. 'Don't Look Back' clearly proved my point about how obsessed she was with Dylan, and really how in the end, she drove him insane.
i dont know if you know this,or mayeb your just a uninformed fan, but in No Direction Home Bob clearly says that he was in love with her. so I would think that the feeling was mutual, wouldnt you agree?
@mthivier no. he's a stage manager. he's the guy who tells the performer how much time they have b4 going up to play. i believe the fellows name is Fred. there are clips of dylan chiding with him.
the guy at 0:20 looks like Denzel Washington ;-)
whsonic 3 weeks ago
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RustyPipesable 1 month ago
there was a degree of mutual self interest. Dylan might have stood to gain Baez’s audience, but the fact is that she run out of songs, so she needed an injection of real quality song writing, and Dylan gave her that.
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noahelp1 4 months ago
No Joan Baez without Dylan is more like it. She didn't write those great songs of his! Did she? Anyone who says she made him is sooooo off!
synysterjazmyngates 5 months ago 2
If I were Bob i'd of been like, "Shut up bitch!" And smacked her upside the head! Haha, XDDDD
synysterjazmyngates 5 months ago
Im pretty sure Dylan would have done just fine without her...just wouldnt be Ballad in Plain D, and other greats...haha
BobDylansDream3 6 months ago
@BobDylansDream3 it wasn't bout joan u know
Haldwing 6 months ago
@Haldwing ohh right thats suze nevermind about that one haha
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jakewino221 7 months ago
I thought somebody was hurting the cat, then I realized, no, it's just Joan.
KellyGreen5555 8 months ago
Brian. . . EXPSTEIN? Bob DXYLAN???
ferociousgumby 11 months ago
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please someone shoot that bitch....what a pain she was/is /will always be ....i recall.seeing that appalling footage of her jumping on bobs gig at a large gathering in Washington ...bobs doing quite well singing "when the ship comes in"" then up jumps that wailing bint to grab her 15 secs of fame ,,,,,bitch!!!
mugwamp4 1 year ago
@mugwamp4 You have no idea.
blwbl 11 months ago
@mugwamp4 LOL!
Dave897456 6 months ago
amazing tone!
anibalnikov47 1 year ago
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Bob, u are still a JEW.....from KS. U speak but u give no answers, u profititize (lol) but u answer no questions. U basically sing your songs and think that u are a poet, poets have starts and endings, u have neither...
polmaccaba 1 year ago
@polmaccaba Not quite sure what being a jew would have to do with anything, i think we all know that. He never wished to be a 'profit' or a voice of the people, if you knew of him well enough you would see that for yourself. He strongly objectifies to that label that the media and his fans gave him, It burdened him mostly. And if poetry relies on a beginning and an end then he must be a poet. His songs had both right?
mike0nine 1 year ago
@polmaccaba Shut the fuck up and leave please you narrow minded Nazi. Bob is the greatest EVER, and you, well your just a jealous piece of trash. This conversation is over.
BobDylansDream3 6 months ago
I don't think she's annoying him. They're just killing time by making each other laugh backstage before a show.
Trivia: Joan's singing "Here Comes The Night" by Them featuring Van Morrison.
JaredLekites 1 year ago
no wonder he dumped her
rrrorkk 1 year ago
Dylan. Yesterday, Today, Forever...
fyodor90 1 year ago 2
she is pretty annoying
nunurox 1 year ago
she's cute with her cowboy hat !! =) Love you Joanie!
jolamaline 2 years ago 5
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joan biased was way too ugly fo dat nigga bob
kiloelo 2 years ago
I think she was pretty.
Tigerlily21 1 year ago 10
@kiloelo your just a downright fuckhead
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She should have been given a good slapping - and often. Probably still needs it. Poor Bob. He never knew that using someone to get somewhere would be sooo trying.
paddy2youse 2 years ago
did he like abuse or hit joan or something?
penguinlover4444 2 years ago
No he would never hit her, Bob Dylan talk about Joan Baez on PBS ,you could see he has lots of respect for her.
TheHoverman 2 years ago 5
He was a jerk to her--but I think his serious relationship with Sara had more to do with their affair ending, when she found out about Sara. Not to mention that he really didn't have a commitment to social justice and non-violence like she did. I think he tried to make it up when he invited her on Rolling Thunder. Of course, if she hadn't just managed her hit "Diamonds and Rust," maybe he wouldn't have thought of her. She's not really without any flaws either, though.
davidlenander 2 years ago 3
@davidlenander how was he a jerk to her? wat did he do?
rockisbetter 1 year ago
@rockisbetter Well, he kind of used her to further his career. He didn't mention that he had this other steady girlfriend, for one thing. She brought him along with her on tour, and brought him out in front of her audiences, who weren't at first receptive to his singing, and sang with him, and promoted him--when she was the "Queen of Folk" music, a pop star. Then, when she accompanied him on the UK tour, he never brought her out on stage, and referred to her as a girlfriend.
davidlenander 1 year ago
@davidlenander As I noted in prev. post, she wasn't entirely the blameless, naive angel, either. But he and Richard Farina had apparently talked about how someone had to take advantage of this queen of folk (Farina went after the first "queen of folk," Carolyn Hester, and married her, then moved on to Baez's little sister) this is putting it pretty crudely, and I'm sure you could argue two sides to everything, but look at the book _Positively 4th Street_ by David Hajdu for a recent take.
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@rockisbetter Well, he kind of used her to further his career. He didn't mention that he had this other steady girlfriend, for one thing. She brought him along with her on tour, and brought him out in front of her audiences, who weren't at first receptive to his singing, and sang with him, and promoted him--when she was the "Queen of Folk" music, a pop star. Then, when she accompanied him on the UK tour, he never brought her out on stage, and referred to her as a girlfriend.
davidlenander 1 year ago
"Here Comes The Night", a big hit for Van Morrison's band Them in 1965...i love this clip, thanks
kevidw 2 years ago
sam cooke at 0:20? the hell?
thedude739 2 years ago 3
Funny, but I don't think bobby was annoyed, but merely amused.
1treehugger1967 2 years ago 14
certainly annoyed me
BornskiAECC 2 years ago
he didn't look annoyed to me. Nice title for a vid.... not.
freezazoid 2 years ago 3
folk music isn't hippie music, why does everyone think joan is hippie music?
el3m3ntsk8s 2 years ago 51
Because some of the hippies liked folk music.
OmonRa71 2 years ago 3
because joan kinda looked like a hippie so people who didnt know would think she was
Chicubobchester 2 years ago
@el3m3ntsk8s Woodstock.
blwbl 11 months ago
@el3m3ntsk8s Of course folk music is hippie music......what do you think all the Hippies listened to? Bob and Joan were the king and queen of Hippies. Folk music was around before the Hippies but it got real popular in the mid to late sixties with Dylan.
Flipper79able 11 months ago
@Flipper79able Queens I don't know about that. Folk music leans hippie, but not all of it. Guthrie was the king of folk music I beleive, and he wasn't a hippie. Joan was kind of conservative actually. Now the Dead, that was hippie music. The hippie movement that exploded during the summer of love was really more like texting and computers for every 20 something today, it was a fad for the average American kid of which there were a lot of at that time (baby boomers), and an reason not to fight.
ThousandShakes 8 months ago
@ThousandShakes Okay I guess we can split hairs on the issue. This is something Rock journalists argue about to this day. Like I said Folk music was around before the hippies but then got popular with them. Then the Beatles reintroduced Rock and Roll and there was a bit of a mix. It's not really a black and white issue. I will say San Francisco really created their own scene which became very hippie.
Flipper79able 8 months ago
@el3m3ntsk8s because hippies got on the bandwagon, leading to David Bowie
EyMeng 8 months ago
@el3m3ntsk8s all music is music the problem with this world is we group people dont group people as hippies or non hippies people are just them selves
DABESTSKATEVIDS 4 months ago
the bad quality witht he black & white is trippy man
tenirpaslager 2 years ago 6
quien me puede decir como se llama el tema que canta joan baez, que dice algo de- el gallo canta en la madrugada- o algo así- marta de argentina
lulyvip47 3 years ago
Don't Think Twice, It's All Right
Svanelicorne 2 years ago
I kind of like the bad quality and the fact it's a filmed television. Very nice.
zeppelin4yourlife 3 years ago 18
thats something a hippie like me doesnt get to see every day!
folkrockm14 3 years ago
just objectively, i think they're probably all really high in that video. :)
isitfunthere1 3 years ago 5
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listen to her singing on an otherwise flawless album on 1975's Rolling Thunder Revue. Fuckin' brutal, completely ruined the great "I shall be released"
JHalpert84 3 years ago
i love joan b....seems like he was kind of a jerk to her...
bex273 3 years ago 10
NaterNess18. Never presume, dear airhead, that someone who can string two coherent sentences together reads Wikipedia. 'Tis rarely the case. Wikipedia is for people who begin sentences with: "I see you found out how to.." It is the handbook for the hard of hearing.
gatsbygirl20 3 years ago
woah woah whos talkin shit about wiki? whats wrong with betering yourself
jesusfucksignmeupalr 3 years ago
Dylan saw that Joan's harmonizing just did not work with his singing. He was selfish for his art. We forgive him because of his youth and genius. The adulation of English fans on this tour went to his head. Baez had introduced him on stage back home when he was unknown and thought he would do the same for her. Baez was no nutcase "I was the only sane one at the party of the 60s" she said. Look at that irritating Neuwirth, sneering, mock-clowning,watching for his opportunity,a court jester
georgiemam 3 years ago 5
I see you found out how to use Wikipedia.
NaterNess18 3 years ago 4
Joan is amazing, funny and wise!
polpol12 3 years ago 4
hard night's morning :)))
whattodowithuname 3 years ago 2
yeaa
XxBeatlesforeverxX 3 years ago
joan baez is the one who brought bob dylan on stage before he was even famous.. wen he got famous he refused to let her on stage which caused their split.
ginasc1228 3 years ago 5
reeeeallly?? that was it?
RainMistSplashUSA 3 years ago
Well, he never refused to let her on stage.
Dylan did state in No Direction Home that he just didn't think about it that much and to quote him:"You can't be wise and in love at the same time."
VerbalHyde 3 years ago 3
thats exactly right and he aklso said that "it was probably stupid..." that movie is so funny at parts lol
XxBeatlesforeverxX 3 years ago
Yeah, very entertaining movie.
It's nice to see Dylan looking back like that.
VerbalHyde 3 years ago 3
No Dylan without Joan Baez...
tallyrulz 3 years ago 32
@tallyrulz that seems to be a trendy thing to say. bob dylan the folk singer was 10% of bob dylan. 10% of bob dylan without joan baez would be more appropriate.
CorkyBuchek 1 year ago
@tallyrulz ........thats like saying there would be no Beatles without Tony Sheriden ....total shit...
mugwamp4 1 year ago 9
@tallyrulz No asshole I'm 100000000% sure its No Baez without Dylan. End Of Argument
Ericthekfukhedmidget 8 months ago 6
@tallyrulz
uh....thats definitely not true....no baez without BOB DYLAN dumbass. joan was nothing more than a fling with bob, bob was never influenced by her to a certain extent, n she met him when he was getting real big....so i dont see how that would ever apply
masterchiefer123 5 months ago
@tallyrulz she did introduce him to the mainstream, then got dropped like a hot brick!!
glovemonkey 5 months ago
@glovemonkey How so ? She was with him for 3 years
alexlancer11 2 months ago
@alexlancer11 im uploading no direction home at the min there is a part on it were joan tells the story about her doing big gigs and bringing bob on and promoting him. She then goes on to say how he left her stood in the wings watching him on stage once he was bigger than her. Its well documented
glovemonkey 2 months ago
@tallyrulz Are you kidding? Joan made her name in the early days by covering Dylan's songs. No Baez without Dylan more like.
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fannydecouverte 3 months ago
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Boy, that Joan is a buzzkill.
stargate121 3 years ago
He was such a jerk in those days, BUT, he was only in his early twenties. Hopefully he treats his women better nowadays.
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i fucking hate joan Baez.
thickastheives 3 years ago
your hatred makes baby jesus cry =(
gu88766 3 years ago 7
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Yeah, she's a crusty-ho-leach trying to get caught in a flicker of the spotlight that is always on Bob Dylan.
ballsonsack 3 years ago
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i just think shes fucking annoying
thickastheives 3 years ago
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hey i totally agree with you about that bitch....Bob Dylan fucking rocks
IrwinVDaniel 3 years ago
She was (is) great. Dylan is a great artist but maybe he was too pretentious. He treated her bad
tallyrulz 4 years ago
that's true. he seemed like a jerk
lisapunky 3 years ago 7
Joan once said she loved Dylan but she didn't like him. Remember the line from "Diamonds and Rust?" "My poetry was lousy he [Dylan] said." Yes he was a jerk in the early years. Ego inflated and self-centered. He's mellowed with age. I've been a Dylan fan since the very early 60s so I'm not bad mouthing him. Just truthing him.
WFSSV 3 years ago 9
@WFSSV Yeah well Joan didn't give a crap about stealing Bob from Suze! In fact, Suze stated in several interviews before she died that Joan didn't care about who she hurt! What goes around comes around.
Dave897456 6 months ago
Joan was widely considered to be a "hanger-on" by Dylan's entourage and most quickly tried of her almost slavish worship of Bob. Dylan entertained her flower-power tendencies and wishy-washy hippie politics as he found her devotion charming. He never took her seriously however, and his good-natured dismissal of her as an artist and a girlfriend is well documented.
SureShotDC 4 years ago
damn owned.
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Baez is such a nutcase. 'Don't Look Back' clearly proved my point about how obsessed she was with Dylan, and really how in the end, she drove him insane.
PopGoesThePoorWeasel 4 years ago
i dont know if you know this,or mayeb your just a uninformed fan, but in No Direction Home Bob clearly says that he was in love with her. so I would think that the feeling was mutual, wouldnt you agree?
XxfrankibubblezxX 4 years ago 3
my comment was in response to popgoesthepoorweasel comment.
XxfrankibubblezxX 4 years ago
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Little did anyone know then that Joan would go to ANNOY millions worldwide. Thank god she only does the recycled hippie tours these days.
SureShotDC 4 years ago
K this
mordentimes54 4 years ago
hehehe
anarchistyes 4 years ago
That must be Bob Neuwirth.
SteerforthBinoculars 4 years ago
I wonder if everyone in that room is stoned? No. Not possible.
bryanschwor 4 years ago
Stoned in a church that's sooo wrong (lol)
ExodusPessoa 3 years ago
Not Epstein. Dunno who it is. Cool clip anyway...
DangerousBastard 5 years ago
Haha that made me laugh. i love seeing them off stage just hanging out like that
muddyjenkins 5 years ago
No one ever said artists were not ~ basically ~ like four year olds telling riddles. I think that's what it's all about. Thanks for this.
awildart 5 years ago 2
LOL...post more.
redruby88 5 years ago
The guy who sticks his head out the door at the end of this clip, is that Brian Expstein?
mthivier 5 years ago
No it is not...I'm not sure who it is but I know its not Brian..
btlzfan 5 years ago
I have to agree, I can understand the mistake, but that is not Brian Epstein, woul dhave been cool though.
exc123 5 years ago
probably just a stage manager or related person telling Bob it was time to go on
jeffkahl 4 years ago
@mthivier no. he's a stage manager. he's the guy who tells the performer how much time they have b4 going up to play. i believe the fellows name is Fred. there are clips of dylan chiding with him.
mancheromanchero 1 year ago
@mthivier Twas obviously the hotel manager ,to check if ev"rything was alright Ma.
Quite rightly so....he probably thought someone was being molested at his premises.
PAULLONDEN 1 year ago
@mthivier definately not Brian Epstein i think he's just some hotel staff ..lackie..
mugwamp4 11 months ago
@mthivier EPSTEIN!!
lourc00 10 months ago