A FOOL's pipedream

[SpiritCrusher47]

Venus satanas mentioned as a mover and shaker.

Nice one jason :P

[fjferd]

It is this current that created us and has given rise to our individuated will. Ultimately our will must be our own, regardless of the current. Human will in this way transcends mere survivalism even though it may lead to our own destruction.

Just trying to stress the difference between individual will and that of the current (so to speak); Both valid and to be acknowledged with similar respect (I stress similar, not equal).

[fjferd]

The 'current' as Jason speaks of is something more in tune with a 'Satan' without, a greater 'Satan' although we are a subset of it; as to say we are ultimately of it's making whether we continue to be a real part of it's continuation or not. Definitely does not require a church or anything for that matter; it is a process that just 'is'.

I think DarkFool is talking about Satan on a microcosmic level where Jason is speaking on a macrocosmic level.

[fjferd]

'Satan' needs no church, just as evolution does not need biology. People need a church because they have needs. People fail to see the COS as a personal endeavor of Anton LeVay for money and personal power; And those that do see this see it as a corruption of Satanism hence fail to realize this is the very essence of it. A personal Satanism where self = god, a Satan within is what I am talking about here; this is what desires such notions as a church etc.

[fjferd]

If your agenda (Satanic) requires you to invest in creating a social institution to further your Satanism; be it for the purpose of self aggrandizement or ego gratification then so be it. There should be no restriction. The difference between you doing so versus the Christian is that you should not be in a state of self-deceit or hypocrisy but embrace the notion. However as Jason tries to stress the 'current' does not require any kind of institutionalization in particular.

[satanicinternational]

Well put.....video response coming up...maybe

[Demagion]

you need a place where you can meet with satanists around the globe?... in a building that can be constructed within the average budget... try Second Life

[fjferd]

Leave em alone, sheep need a church to go to.

[DarkF00L]

They also need a church to get their agenda and political ideas pushed forward. Think about it.

[nosferotica1]

Every Satanist has probably designed his temple, but it would have to be uber secluded based solely on the astounding problems you are gonna have with vandalism.

[VenusSatanas]

You make some excellent points in this video. thanks for making it!

[satanicinternational]

agreed

[johnnecron]

I dunno dude.

why dont we fucking use goto meeting?

We can have this virtual Satanic Church.

And we can all log in and let our voice be heard.

[DarkF00L]

HAHAHAHA!!! A 5 star video if I ever saw one. The fact that you used Akuma makes it even better.

Naw, bro. Never was (nor will I be) a hater. I brought up the idea to see the reactions I would get. Test the waters. I enjoyed the criticism you, TaR0uk, and Temple made. Too bad about Paul. Oh well.

[TheSpoonFedFukWit]

I think in the Metro Detroit area i could find a few true Satanist. But the point is why would i want to. Sorry to say few are anyone i would want knowing were i live. I like being a solitary practitioner.

[BespokeGroupUK]

I thought that the whole thing with satanism though was that of self reliance, so isnt it anti satanic to have a central meeting place for a "community" of satanists?

[TaR0uk]

I wouldnt say outrightly yes but I would definitely argue that it fundamentally begins from an individual point and thus a need to align the satanic community is in of itself a dystopia

[thrashed80]

lmao, yeah that made sense.

[TaR0uk]

I know how badly you want to suck my dick and I am flattered but not interested

[DarkF00L]

What I would consider to be anti Satanic in its entirety would be letting christian rights activists lobby towards acts that restrict rights and freedoms.

Even though the "Satanic Building" would be oxymornic, its function would be to legitimize Satanism for the rest of the world BECAUSE the world is stuck in this old way of thinking: religion, church, congregate, Satan = evil bad wrong.Part of the organization's job would be outwardly challenging these worldviews by making the current visible.

[DarkF00L]

In other words, playing their game and winning.

[CLERKexposed]

Legitimize Satanism for the rest of the world? Since when have Satanists had any interest in doing anything like that?

[DarkF00L]

Since now.

[TheBiggestWolf]

If i had 6 million dollars to spare, i would fund a formal church and ill even cover your trips cost.

Of course that will have to wait until im a millionaire, and until i get that one remaining person im missing.

Have a little vision

[CreeperUnleashed]

Build it in Scotland...

Jason aint you ever seen 'Field of Dreams'...?

"If you build it...THEY will come!!"

[samanark]

I don't think I'd go to a temple even if there was one. I mean, if I do a ritual or something, I prefer to do it privately. This is something that I've always thought is interesting about Satanic organizations...what do they actually do?

[TempleOfLight888]

That's what I've been thinking....if peeps turned up what would they do? You need some kind of central ritual....like in the Catholic Church it would be the Mass. Maybe it would be some kind of Gnostic Mass....but I've yet to see one which I'd travel to participate in.

[samanark]

But then you have to wonder what would even be the point of doing such a thing. I mean, it would be really pointless to me.

I can understand online organizations, in terms of having them as kind of think-tanks but anything past that, I really can't see how they'd function.

[TaR0uk]

i live in Australia how about we make Wagga Wagga the mecca of satanism.... :P

[jason666king]

Sorry for the misidentification, but it makes the point all the more strongly. Seems I'm on the ASS U ME bus today, lol.

[TaR0uk]

its forgiven its historically a british penal colony so in a sense you were close

[TempleOfLight888]

Another problem is Dark Fools temple would probably come under attack from fundamentalists. A guy I knew set up a LHP shop and it was set on fire. He lost all his stock. So you'd need security.

Dark Fool should start off local, in his garage or buy a lock-up....find a few peeps and when his numbers had grown they could look for something bigger.

I reckon you could set up a gnostic type church locally if you had money to convert a non-conformist chapel. But even that would take serious cash.

[TaR0uk]

protestant gnostic.... :P