I personally thong we should secede again. The Yankees attacked us without any decoration of war or consent of congress they just attacked. I am also going to post a simaler Vidio about this topic. I plan in putting it up tommorow. 65% of the us military comes from the south today. Back in the day the south payed 98%of the tax funding the government.
@Sovereign idiot - shove it. We all know who caused the Civil War and who won and who lost, and it takes the lowest form of filth to go around waving that atrocious, murderous flag. The sough got its ass kicked but still hasn't, for the most part learned a Goddamned thing from it, at least not "people" like you, and I use the term loosely.
Your not stopping racism & hate at all because just like the other nuts on here who beleive tha holocasut never happened and we never landed on the moon, slavery is all that mattered, you had no states rights, north south every adult males life was expnedable for letting this abberiton happen for centuries. You dont need your flag, WE have 1, what u need is empathy so youd see your full of shit I see your racism from here. If u ignore somethng it dont go away, holocaust or slavery, it happened
The Morril Tariffs were what the war was all about.
Lincoln said: "But what am I to do in the meantime with those men at Montgomery? [meaning the Confederate convention] "Am I to let them go on, and open Charleston, etc. as ports of entry, with their ten-percent tariff? What, then, would become of my tariff?" ~ Lincoln to Colonel John B. Baldwin, deputized by the Virginian Commissioners to determine whether Lincoln would use force, April 4, 1861
@lesatseaside You know that quote is a lie, right? You can't just blindly post a pack of lies from the Lew Rockwell hate site and expect people to fall for it, son. Lincoln didn't start the war. The Morrill Tariff passed AFTER the South seceded, and wouldn't have passed at all if Southerners had stayed in Congress and Hunter had kept his chairmanship. It was a consequence of the war, not a cause of it.
"If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it, and if I could save it by freeing all the slaves I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone I would also do that. What I do about slavery, and the colored race, I do because I believe it helps to save the Union." ~Abe Lincoln aka TYRANT
"History is written by the victor." -Napoleon Bonaparte. The Civil War was not fought over mainly slavery, it was because the North was taxing the South to death. The Brits did this to the Colonies which caused our Revolutionary War, so to fight against a tyrannic government, is that not the responsibility of free men?
@MrValthien When the south seceded, the tariff rate was at a 19th century low and one of the lowest on earth. The Morrill tariff was passed before Lincoln got into office, and it wouldn't have gotten through the Senate if the southern senators hadn't vacated their seats. Read the southern Declarations of Causes for Secession. Taxes are never mentioned. They're all slavery. The issue we had with taxation from Britain was that we didn't have reps in Parliament. The south had reps in Congress.
Yeah and the Bolsheviks fought against the Czar of Russia for the same reason-- just Nazis in Germany, Chi-coms in China, Viet Cong in Vietnam, Khmer Rouge in Cambodia, etc... and all with the same result.
I watched both of your vids and found both very informative. You know the amazing thing is that even today taxation, the fed etc are still major issues, so I guess some things never change lol. Love the Big & Rich tune btw :-)
I don't agree with everything the CSA was, but i certainly hate dictators. The Yanks were wrong the whole "Civil war" which is the worst thing to call war, "Civil". I'll take the South over the north any day
It is a total utter joke. There is absolutely NO way the American States would have gone to war over slavery. They would go to war over money. War is about control of land and money.
They would go to war over the imposition of protectionist taxes. The British would support the South as they were exporting to the South and losing money.
This slavery nonsense. Doesn't sound good when you oppress your countrymen with unfair taxes. So lets re-write the history books in a politically correct way.
@cabadejo uh, slavery was about money. slaves were property, and the south wasn't going to give up its property without a fight. denying that the civil war was about slavery makes it sound like slavery was a bad thing, but the south believed it was a GREAT THING.
@cabadejo uh, slavery was about money. slaves were property, and the south wasn't going to give up its property without a fight. denying that the civil war was about slavery makes it sound like slavery was a bad thing, but the south believed it was a GREAT THING.
@cabadejo " There is absolutely NO way the American States would have gone to war over slavery. They would go to war over money."
Going to war over slavery IS going to war over money, genius. And the tariff rate when the southern states seceded was at a 19th century low and one of the lowest rates in the world at the time.
They didn't "go to war," Lincoln invaded and they defended.
PERIOD.
(Now here's the part where you claim that Lincoln conquered the entire southern continent over a FORT, that was 1) in Southern territory, and which 2) the South didn't even touch UNTIL the invasion, and when 3) Lincoln had already claimed national authority over the entire South on Day 1 of his presidency. Because that's the holy trinity of ignorance.)
@SovereignStatesman Uh, no, he invaded Virginia because of a fort. He conquered the south because of the hundreds, then thousands, of deaths that the south caused.
I think you need to check your civil war timeline. Lincoln "invaded" after Fort Sumter, not before.
@SovereignStatesman "South Carolina OWNED the fort and the occupants were hostile invaders."
civilwarhome[DOT]com/sumterownership[DOT]htm
"Resolved, That this state do cede to the United States, all the right, title and claim of South Carolina to the site of Fort Sumter and the requisite quantity of adjacent territory"
-- Committee on Federal Relations, In the South Carolina House of Representatives, December 31st, 1836
@SovereignStatesman This isn't Britain, genius. We have the Constitution, which gives Congress "Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings"
If South Carolina wanted control of a fort in Charleston harbor, they could have built their own fort.
You should spend less time trolling and more time trying to get laid. You wouldn't be so angry.
@SovereignStatesman The Constitution isn't in my ass, it's in the National Archives, though it seems that you would prefer it be shoved up someone's ass, then shitted out, then flushed down the toilet.
@KayBeeEee1983 He doesn't understand what the word "sovereignty" actually means. He's never studied the law in any way. "Sovereignty" is just a magic word to him.
@MrDanielpimen You're a dumbass. Lincoln didn't free all slaves. He freed the slaves in the South that he had no contol over. The North was allowed to keep their slaves. Lincoln was no hero to the blacks, or should not be. All this time has passed and idiots sill think the war was over slavery. Do you honestly think the people in the North fought and died to free blacks? If you do that's you're an idiot.
Nice try but the many Southern States had already seceded when the Morrill Tariff passed congress. Besides the documents of secession don't mention it either but they do slavery. Economics was a big part of the War, the economics of the plantation owners keeping their slaves instead of paying workers to work the plantation.
@waynerd23 His point is skewed. The Morrill Tariff was guaranteed passage when Lincoln was elected. This tariff had already passed the US House of Reps in the Spring of 1860 preceding the presidential election. Lincoln & the Republican Platform promised passage of the Morrill Tariff under their leadership. The tariff was signed by President Buchanan 2 days prior to Lincoln's inauguration.
@Cionaodh57 I have learnt something today. I had not understood why the British were so keen to support the South. I mean they would still get their cotton whatever. It was to protect their exports to the South. The point here is the war was due to protectionist taxes which benefited the North and hurt the South. Which president enacted the law is not important.
@gettyman1 Thank god for Lincoln and the Northern Soldiers they all died to free the black man right? LMAO I guess that's why the Northern states were allowed to keep their slaves. You're another idiot who has never read the Emancipation Proclamation
@Suzukiboulevard I'm sorry but did I say shit about the Emancipation Proclamation? Didn't think so dumb ass. Those Northern Soldiers fought to keep the country together not to free the slaves. The War's main cause was slavery, amongst other causes, and the southern states being able to keep them. The maker of this video is wrong in his assumption of why the South seceded. Dumb ass moron learn to read.
@gettyman1 Wrong! An analysis proves that secession documents were written to mobilize popular support & appealed to where people lived as they were sensitive to abolitionist provocations to incite a slave revolt. Only real legislative threat that could have affected the South was the Morrill Tariff & Lincoln's election virtually guaranteed its passage though southern representatives theoretically could have stalled it in the Senate Finance committee.
Silly revisionist history. None of the secession documents say a thing about the Morril Tarrif and everything about slavery.
The blood of slavery and treason - as well as Jim Crow and the Klan will forever be on the hands of the South, and invented history like this doesn't change that.
@franksinclair1 Would you like to withdraw your comments? The Klan is very active in midwestern northern states, as well as NY, NJ et al. Racist segregation was the NORM in most of US, eg Oregon, Illinois, PA, et al had laws prohibiting or severely limiting black settlement in those states and/or limited right to vote, et al. US apartheid was blacks were to be in South -- they were UNWELCOME EVERYWHERE ELSE! Black & white southerners are neighbors, don't fear the truth.
i dont get why the people that rays those flags dont get arrested because would that be considered as some kind of attempt to rise against the government?? ohh nvm freedom of speech right?
the south according to my understanding wanted to keep humans working hard and in very poor conditions in order to grow there economy, plus the way they ran it in that way created the belief that one race is more superior than another race just like the nazis, plus its natural for the human mind to make connections from things they see dont tell me you would not feel uneasy if u saw a black panther throw up the right fist... its not the flag that offends but its what the flag is saying.
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I'm from Portugal and I absolutely despise racism and nationalism. However, I love the CSA and its flags for what they represent: opposition to unionist tyranny which unfortunately endures in the world today. I wish the South had won and that I could go and live there.
Well ol' southern bretherin, I ask you what would you rather have? A United States that can legitimately claim to be the most powerful nation on Earth, or a divided USA/CSA that in all likelihood remains a backwater power due to constant border wars and fighting a la Europe? You cant have it both ways, and anyone who thinks it could be is truly fooling themselves. This nation has always and will always be about empire, and emperors de facto or otherwise dont just let territories secede.
@snappy452 Your "powerful nation on earth" is a conniving thieving yankee empire. If there are two lines on Judgement Day before Almighty God, one marked with the US yankee standard and the other by the Confederate Battle Flag I will gladly and honorably take my chances in the line marked by the Confederate Battle flag!
love the video im a civil war reenactor.And i know alittle about the war,the St Andrews Cross you know the one rednecks like to hang from there trucks you know lol.well that flag was just a battle flag and nothing else.the Real confederate flag was the stars and bars used as the country's flag and for a while the battle flag too.but the stars and bars looked just like the american flag so the south went to the St Andrews Cross.
@ImAwesome1277 Because the war wasn't started in favour of FREEING slaves; it was started in favour of DEFENDING slavery. That's what every one of the four declarations of secession proudly told the world. Remember that the war started when South Carolina fired on a federal fort.
@ImAwesome1277 It wasn't about slaves for the north. It was ALL about slaves for the south. The south was mad that the north wasn't returning fugitive slaves. They were mad that abolitionists were calling slaveholders evil. They were mad that John Brown tried to incite a slave revolt. They were mad that an anti-slavery, pro-industry political party gained control of the white house. They were mad that free states outnumbered slave states.They were mad that Kansas was going to become a free state
@ImAwesome1277 If the war was about "states rights", tariffs, taxes, "liberty", or all of the PC crap that Confederate apologists claim it was about, why didn't any free states or territories choose to side with the CSA?
"the South fought on account of the thing we quarreled with the North about. I never heard of any other cause for quarrel, than slavery"...Col. John Singleton Mosby...CSA.
One thing I'll agree with you on... it is unfortunate the South was brought back into the Union. The United States would be a far better country today without.
But, slavery had to be destroyed, and it was, and having to put up with the South might be seen as the punishment God placed on the North for permitting slavery to exist for so long.
Apparently he couldn't be arsed, as in so many other ways he seems to fall down on the job. If I really believed in such fairy tales, this might pose a problem for me, but I don't, so it isn't. Hence, "MIGHT be seen as...".
The South dominated US politics until 1852 because 3/5ths of its slave population was counted towards its representation in the House of Representatives and the Electoral College this allowed the slave holding states to dominate the Congress and the Presidency.When they lost their hold due to Northern population growth they clung to states' rights to protect slavery.
the civil war started because new territories were starting to develop and the south wanted slaves to do their work like growing cotton so then the north fiund out and wanted the new territories to be free and for everybody to have rights but the south didnt wanna so then came the conflict called the civil war
the kkk killed their own white people because they were republicans now that is just som messed up shit i mean seriously protesting on the streets causing havoc to our normal everyday lives saying stupid shit about black ppl and come to find out the kkk kills white ppl starting to sound like these guys arent qiute on nayones side
The southern states had more representation than they deserved (3/5 clause)
The Morrill tariff was signed into law by Buchanan, not Lincoln, on March 2, 1861, after 7 states had already seceded, and it wouldn't have been able to pass through Congress if those states had stayed in the Union.
From 1857-1861, the tariff rate was at a 19th century low and one of the lowest on earth at the time (Between 17% and 21%).
Not allowing the south to secede pushed them to secede? That makes a lot of sense...
Mississippi in particular has no problem with the fact that they seceded over african slavery. It's sad that your nostalgia for the Confederacy requires apologist revisionist history over what they believed in.
Incidentally, all four of those documents had an open forum to mention tariffs and acts and failed to do so. My conclusion is that your conclusion is fiction. Nice try.
Actually, the morril tariff was passed before Lincoln rose to power, it was passed after 7 states already seceded, although it did drive the last 4 to secede with them.
@geekalpha Yes and the reasons they stated was because the north refused to extradite a murderer for trial because he was a run away slave. The south didn't want him because he was a runaway. They wanted him because he was a wanted murderer. He murdered innocent people. When the north refused, and when the party of fanatics won in 1860, the South peacefully left the Union. The North invaded and conquered the South for their own economic greed.
@eflint1 Where does it say in any of the declarations of causes that the north refused to extradite a murderer? Who are you talking about?
The south seceded peacefully? Have you heard of Fort Sumter? Did you know that Kentucky declared its neutrality as soon as the war started and the Confederacy invaded and occupied them just 4 months later?
It was actually the southern states that acted because of greed. They were deathly afraid they would lose their slaves, valued at $4,000,000,000.
Slavery was not even an issue until the second year of the war, it was necessary for the yankees to tell their men that they were fighting to free slaves ,instead just geting killed for the rich guys running the north. The war was unpopular in the north, most just want to let the south go and mind their own damn business. The yankees knew if enough men balked, then they would lose and likely be removed from power, so they started the war.
@unclefixer The word "slave" (or some variation) is mentioned in the southern declarations of causes of secession 92 times. "Tax" or "tariff" is mentioned once and, hilariously, it's related to slavery.
If the union soldiers thought they were risking their lives to free slaves, very few men would have enlisted. Lincoln announced the Emancipation Proclamation in Sept 1862, and 6 months later the Union had to start drafting men.
If the war was unpopular in the north, how did Lincoln get reelected?
@unclefixer "The yankees knew if enough men balked, then they would lose and likely be removed from power, so they started the war."
So if the North hadn't started the war, the northern politicians would've been removed from power, but in the previous sentence you say the war was unpopular. Do you wear velcro sneakers?
The VERY same happened to us in Rio Grande do Sul, Brasil, all about politics, our forbears tried to separate South from North, but we are still part of Brasil... and for some we are considered racists (not black vs white, but Southern vs the others).
Btw our Revolution aniversary is tomorrow, September 20th.
Agreed, the war was 85% about steep taxes, but come on. If their had been no Civil War the CSA would have eventually collapsed because it had no industry and was built on slave labor, and there were signs that a total slave rebellion was just around the corner. There are definitely times that I wish the South had stayed separate (the North's IQ would be higher, we'd have less psychotic religious nutballs and FOX News would probably only have a real following in the South), what's done is done.
@sideaches You have been brainwashed and have allowed yankee lies to cower your spirit. In 1861 the South had NO NAVY, yet in a matter of months southern men mined iron ore and fashioned IRON CLADS like the CSS Virginia and CSS Alabama & Arkansas that were able to do US naval vessels serious damage.
@sideaches You had underestimated the will and might of southern men and southern society to rise to the occasion when confronted with overwhelming odds from an enemy that desired to eradicate Southerners from this earth. You are doing the same regarding Southerners to manage their own destiny, as if they were intrinsically incapable of doing so. Your reasoning shows you are merely repeating the official propaganda.
@Cionaodh57 "In 1861 the South had NO NAVY, yet in a matter of months southern men mined iron ore and fashioned IRON CLADS like the CSS Virginia and CSS Alabama & Arkansas that were able to do US naval vessels serious damage."
Yeah, it took 11 months for the south to raise 1 sunken wooden frigate and attach iron plates to its sides. The CSS Alabama wasn't an ironclad and it was built in England by the English.
Interesting. Seems like the most practical thing the South could have done would have been to develop some heavy industry of its own. Much of the factory work could probably have been done with slave labor, which would have greatly reduced the price of the manufactured goods.
what union did then (causin' war just to keep confederation in usa) is how different than what was serbia doing to keep kosovo inside it's borders ????????? f*cking double standards...
"never let a fact get in the way of a good story " ...... this is what the south is fighting . from an Englishman who reads history and understands the facts . god bless the south !
@dave2806 "never let a fact get in the way of a good story "
Indeed. The tariffs mentioned in this video were controversial mainly in the 1840s and 1850s. If they were the root cause of session, it would have occurred then, not in 1860/1861 when those policies had largely been ameliorated. On the other hand, South Carolina seceded only 48 days after the election of Abraham Lincoln, whose name it did not permit to appear on the ballot (along with EIGHT OTHER slaveholding states).
"For the last ten years we have had numerous and serious causes of complaint against our non-slave-holding confederate States with reference to the subject of African slavery."
Declaration of Secession, Mississippi (2nd sentence):
"Our position is thoroughly identified with the institution of slavery-- the greatest material interest of the world."
"the election of a man to the high office of President of the United States, whose opinions and purposes are hostile to slavery. He is to be entrusted with the administration of the common Government, because he has declared that that "Government cannot endure permanently half slave, half free," and that the public mind must rest in the belief that slavery is in the course of ultimate extinction."
"She was received as a commonwealth holding, maintaining and protecting the institution known as negro slavery-- the servitude of the African to the white race within her limits-- a relation that had existed from the first settlement of her wilderness by the white race, and which her people intended should exist in all future time."
Not a single one mentions "tariffs", as a cause, or even in general. Every one mentions slavery BY NAME.
The Morrill Tariff of 1861 was a protective tariff in the United States, adopted on March 2, 1861 during the administration of President James Buchanan.
This was AFTER the session of South Carolina, Mississippi, Georgia, Alabama, Florida, Louisiana, Texas, and the establishment of the Confederate Constitution and government, but BEFORE the inauguration of Abraham Lincoln. If you're going to indulge in revisionism, you might at least try a little harder.
this is all true, the north could care less about the freedom of black people. it was about money, and fear, the north thoight the south was rising against tuem, so the did what GB did, rose taxes.
Also Lincoln conversed with Karl Marx by letters and Lincoln placed Marxist Germans in high military positions. Karl Marx congratulated Lincoln for winning a second term and during the Spanish Civil War American Communists fought for the Republicans (communists) and called themselves the Lincoln Brigade.
There were blacks in the South who owned slaves and also there were over 65000 Blacks who served in the Confederate Army and weren't seperated in seperate regimates
Like the North. The North also had a higher slave population in the South. The Civil War was not fought for slavery but for the very freedoms this country was built on, states rights.
You realize, though, that some states had already seceded from the union before the first of Morill's Tariffs had passed, don't you? You realize it wouldn't have passed if the Southern states hadn't broken from the union? Also, the first Morill Tariff passed on Buchanan, so you're pretty much wrong on every point you make you ignorant hick apologist.
This war was fought for the same reason all wars are fought " Money , Land and Power " ( in the modern world include oil ) Does any logical minded fool actually beleive the Union would nearly bankrupt itself and send 100 , 000s of people to die and fight brother against brother Just to free a bunch of Niggers? Note: Im not racist I just used the term nigger because in the North a black man was still just a nigger in the eyes of Northerners like in the south but he was quote un quote free.
Lincoln, and the majority of northerners, weren't in it for freeing slaves. In a letter Lincoln actually said that his main duty was to perserve the union and he would do so if it meant freeing all the slaves of keeping slavery intact. Many of the blacks who fought for the north experienced racism from other troops and even their own officers! So don't think for a minute that the north was so holier than thou about slavery.
Jackass, Read the south's Declaration of Independence. Slavery is mentioned Five times. It was the only reason for the CSA. The war started when the Rebels fired on Fort Sumter. The slave owners, the equivalent of people like the Koch Bothers, today, told the poor whites Lincoln would free the slaves and the blacks woul kill and rape their women. Thus racism was the only reason for the poor whites who didn't own slaves to fight.
Jackass, Read the south's Declaration of Independence. Slavery is mentioned Five times. It was the only reason for the CSA. The war started when the Rebels fired on Fort Sumter. The slave owners, the equivalent of people like the Koch Bothers, today, told the poor whites Lincoln would free the slaves and the blacks woul kill and rape their women. Thus racism was the only reason for the poor whites who didn't own slaves to fight.
You are lucky that President Lincoln was a kind man and didn't want to punish the South after the was was won.
There weremany in the North that wanted treason trials and hang sargents and up in the Confederate army. Then hang all legislators that voted to secede. Then finally do what Rome did-pick up the white population in the South and scatter them all over the USA and bring Northeners into the South to kill this Southern idea but good!
@Jake. I know what you mean, I'm very busy myself. I'm sorry for using the language I did, not very classy of me... But if you ever have time we should compare notes, I'm always interested in learning new things. I'm sure you're a smart guy, I just thought/think the video needed revising. I listened to you music you're a pretty good musician, I play too... mostly a dancer though. Anyway, peace.
I believe that the war started because of a lot of things, not just slavery. Lack of resources which produces scarcity and central control of those resources. In a way it sounds like socialism.
You bum, it had very much to do with slavery you fool!!!! Fucking Christ, if you think the Civil War was about taxation you seriously missed a vast amount of information, please refer to a text book(American Passages 4th edition perhaps). If you must hang your southern flag, that's your right. However most would recommend you leave the explaining of the Civil War to the historians. I can back this up by the way with first & second hand sources.
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You bum, it had very much to do with slavery you fool!!!! Fucking Christ, if you think the Civil War was about taxation you seriously missed a vast amount of information, please refer to a text book(American Passages 4th edition perhaps). If you must hang your southern flag, that's your right. However most would recommend you leave the explaining of the Civil War to the historians. I can back this up by the way with first & second hand sources.
@Jake520520 "We hold as undeniable truths that the governments of the various States, and of the confederacy itself, were established exclusively by the white race, for themselves and their posterity; that the African race had no agency in their establishment; that they were rightfully held and regarded as an inferior and dependent race, and in that condition only could their existence in this country be rendered beneficial or tolerable."
@tremaine7585 dude only 6% of the south owned slaves and in fact ol' honest abe was a racist he pointed all this on to slavery when he got a bad name for himself to take it as you want it but that is the truth.
dude, I know Abe was a racist, so was Jefferson, Franklin, Jackson, Washington etc. In the declaration of Independent Jefferson calls Indians "merciless savages" but as far as slavery at the time of the civil war there were about 1.2 million blacks in the US and they were not all "free" or 94% free like you're trying to say, thats outrageous!! In fact the "biggest market in America" at that time was to supply the slave population with food in south America.
@tremaine7585 its cool man. well i mean slavery was probably a big part of it but i think a war over money is a little more legit.. i believe that if just slavery was the issue they wouldnt have wasted the money and lives for a huge war. i myself am not racist but i'm from the south and have ancestors that fought in the war for southern independence..
@tremaine7585 I'm pretty sure historians would give a different explanation...i don't need to say anything else...but yes, do leave it to the historians so bums like yourself can screw themselves!
@tremaine7585 It doesn't sound like you know that Lincoln signed the Emancipation Proclamation to keep Britain and France out of the war. Of course, you won't read that in a Wikipedia version of what happened. If you have a first hand source, I'd like to meet this person who's got to be what, around 175 years old now?
@tremaine7585 it had hardly anything to do with slavery all we wanted to do was to break away from the union and be a free nation in the south but they wuldnt let us so we decided to fight for it
@tremaine7585 Man the civil war was not fought about slavery and anyone who thinks it was is a complete and utter cock. In history class you may have learned about the so called border states... another name for these states is Union Slave State. That is right not many people know because it is not actively taught in school today that Missouri, Kentucky, West Virginia, Maryland, and Delaware remained in the Union as slave holding states. The North did not even free the slaves in these states.
@tremaine7585 When Lincoln signed the emancipation proclamation it did not apply to the Union Slave States it only applied to the states in the south. Not surprisingly the south did not comply with Lincoln's proclamation because, well, as they had seceded they did not consider themselves part of the Union and therefore should not have to follow their laws.
@tremaine7585 i am sorry to have to break this to you but the south paid 80% of the taxes and made up only 6% of the nation that is how the civil war started.
@tremaine7585 you have been miss informed... why would a country go to war over something that only affected 6% of the population...I've researched this for over 30 years..my ancestors fought for the south because of unfair taxation..its in our family records..My father's great,great grandfather was native american,he fought with the confederate indian rebels to get their land back from the union...do your homework
@zombie2wo The tax was issued, not because the north were being bullies but because they were being negatively affected while the south was flourishing. It was to protect the north not harm the south, you know? "Union". I don't think I need to tell you that the slaves were the ones on the plantations picking the cotton... Now if there were no slaves who would be picking the cotton?
What I do know is the cotton industry would not have flourished in the south had it not been for slaves, :
@zombie2wo hence there wouldn't have been a tax in the first place... So when you said it only affected 6% of the population, that's just not true, they had the biggest unjust enrichment ever (slavery), and at the norths expense. Total gread in my book. So I don't think that is, as you say "unfair taxes" ,they were getting free labor from millions of africans making tons of money AND hurting the norths economy... Please tell me whats unfair?
@tremaine7585 you know American Passages was written mainly by Northern men a southern general is quoted as "i refuse to let the southern children to learn from nothern wrote text books therefore i fight until i die"
You bum, it had very much to do with slavery you fool!!!! Fucking Christ, if you think the Civil War was about taxation you seriously missed a vast amount of information, please refer to a text book(American Passages 4th edition perhaps). If you must hang your southern flag, that's your right. However most would recommend
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19691969roadrunner 2 days ago
95% of all wars are started because of money, what they tell you on news about "freeing and helping" people is all bull.
TonyGognitti 4 days ago
I personally thong we should secede again. The Yankees attacked us without any decoration of war or consent of congress they just attacked. I am also going to post a simaler Vidio about this topic. I plan in putting it up tommorow. 65% of the us military comes from the south today. Back in the day the south payed 98%of the tax funding the government.
JPW1239 4 days ago
@Sovereign idiot - shove it. We all know who caused the Civil War and who won and who lost, and it takes the lowest form of filth to go around waving that atrocious, murderous flag. The sough got its ass kicked but still hasn't, for the most part learned a Goddamned thing from it, at least not "people" like you, and I use the term loosely.
MiserableOldFart 5 days ago
Your not stopping racism & hate at all because just like the other nuts on here who beleive tha holocasut never happened and we never landed on the moon, slavery is all that mattered, you had no states rights, north south every adult males life was expnedable for letting this abberiton happen for centuries. You dont need your flag, WE have 1, what u need is empathy so youd see your full of shit I see your racism from here. If u ignore somethng it dont go away, holocaust or slavery, it happened
guitargold77 5 days ago
The North American continental war started by LINCOLN INVADING!
PERIOD!
That's ALL you need to know!
SovereignStatesman 5 days ago
you are a true historian, GOD BLESS THE CSA
TheCalhounboys 6 days ago
Shave that confederate battle flag up your nazi asses.
MiserableOldFart 1 week ago
@MiserableOldFart
The Confederacy didn't attack anyone, so YOU'RE the Nazi!
Hitler SAID that he had the same right to rule Germanic states like Holland and Poland just like Lincoln did the American states.
SovereignStatesman 5 days ago
The Morril Tariffs were what the war was all about.
Lincoln said: "But what am I to do in the meantime with those men at Montgomery? [meaning the Confederate convention] "Am I to let them go on, and open Charleston, etc. as ports of entry, with their ten-percent tariff? What, then, would become of my tariff?" ~ Lincoln to Colonel John B. Baldwin, deputized by the Virginian Commissioners to determine whether Lincoln would use force, April 4, 1861
lesatseaside 1 week ago
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@lesatseaside You know that quote is a lie, right? You can't just blindly post a pack of lies from the Lew Rockwell hate site and expect people to fall for it, son. Lincoln didn't start the war. The Morrill Tariff passed AFTER the South seceded, and wouldn't have passed at all if Southerners had stayed in Congress and Hunter had kept his chairmanship. It was a consequence of the war, not a cause of it.
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RonPaulHatesBlacks 1 week ago
@lesatseaside "The Morril Tariffs were what the war was all about."
No, I'm pretty sure it was the invasion.
SovereignStatesman 5 days ago
So very true.
"If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it, and if I could save it by freeing all the slaves I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone I would also do that. What I do about slavery, and the colored race, I do because I believe it helps to save the Union." ~Abe Lincoln aka TYRANT
SarahLynnM 2 weeks ago
@SarahLynnM
Yeah but you can't save an international union by claiming it's a nation, and invading to force your claim.
That's just Saddam Hussein and Adolf Hitler right there.
SovereignStatesman 5 days ago
"History is written by the victor." -Napoleon Bonaparte. The Civil War was not fought over mainly slavery, it was because the North was taxing the South to death. The Brits did this to the Colonies which caused our Revolutionary War, so to fight against a tyrannic government, is that not the responsibility of free men?
MrValthien 1 month ago
@MrValthien When the south seceded, the tariff rate was at a 19th century low and one of the lowest on earth. The Morrill tariff was passed before Lincoln got into office, and it wouldn't have gotten through the Senate if the southern senators hadn't vacated their seats. Read the southern Declarations of Causes for Secession. Taxes are never mentioned. They're all slavery. The issue we had with taxation from Britain was that we didn't have reps in Parliament. The south had reps in Congress.
KayBeeEee1983 1 month ago
@KayBeeEee1983
Secession isn't war. INVASION is war.
SovereignStatesman 5 days ago
@MrValthien "so to fight against a tyrannic government, is that not the responsibility of free men?"
It is. 175,000 free black men fought against the tyrannical slavocracy known as the Confederate States of America.
KayBeeEee1983 1 month ago
@KayBeeEee1983
Yeah and the Bolsheviks fought against the Czar of Russia for the same reason-- just Nazis in Germany, Chi-coms in China, Viet Cong in Vietnam, Khmer Rouge in Cambodia, etc... and all with the same result.
SovereignStatesman 5 days ago
I watched both of your vids and found both very informative. You know the amazing thing is that even today taxation, the fed etc are still major issues, so I guess some things never change lol. Love the Big & Rich tune btw :-)
mahjadah 1 month ago
I don't agree with everything the CSA was, but i certainly hate dictators. The Yanks were wrong the whole "Civil war" which is the worst thing to call war, "Civil". I'll take the South over the north any day
theairsoftrebel 2 months ago
It is a total utter joke. There is absolutely NO way the American States would have gone to war over slavery. They would go to war over money. War is about control of land and money.
They would go to war over the imposition of protectionist taxes. The British would support the South as they were exporting to the South and losing money.
This slavery nonsense. Doesn't sound good when you oppress your countrymen with unfair taxes. So lets re-write the history books in a politically correct way.
cabadejo 2 months ago
@cabadejo uh, slavery was about money. slaves were property, and the south wasn't going to give up its property without a fight. denying that the civil war was about slavery makes it sound like slavery was a bad thing, but the south believed it was a GREAT THING.
milowent 2 months ago
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@cabadejo uh, slavery was about money. slaves were property, and the south wasn't going to give up its property without a fight. denying that the civil war was about slavery makes it sound like slavery was a bad thing, but the south believed it was a GREAT THING.
milowent 2 months ago
@cabadejo " There is absolutely NO way the American States would have gone to war over slavery. They would go to war over money."
Going to war over slavery IS going to war over money, genius. And the tariff rate when the southern states seceded was at a 19th century low and one of the lowest rates in the world at the time.
KayBeeEee1983 1 month ago
@KayBeeEee1983
They didn't "go to war," Lincoln invaded and they defended.
PERIOD.
(Now here's the part where you claim that Lincoln conquered the entire southern continent over a FORT, that was 1) in Southern territory, and which 2) the South didn't even touch UNTIL the invasion, and when 3) Lincoln had already claimed national authority over the entire South on Day 1 of his presidency. Because that's the holy trinity of ignorance.)
SovereignStatesman 5 days ago
@SovereignStatesman Uh, no, he invaded Virginia because of a fort. He conquered the south because of the hundreds, then thousands, of deaths that the south caused.
I think you need to check your civil war timeline. Lincoln "invaded" after Fort Sumter, not before.
KayBeeEee1983 5 days ago
@KayBeeEee1983
You're a fucking idiot, no point in discussing if you insist on falsehoods.
Ships were being sent to the fort, while South Carolina OWNED the fort and the occupants were hostile invaders.
You can't even read Lincoln's First Inaugural, where he SAID there would be invasion and force-- and bloodshed, if force was used in return!
God save us all from fucking idiots like you, you hate the truth so you just lie.
SovereignStatesman 5 days ago
@SovereignStatesman "South Carolina OWNED the fort and the occupants were hostile invaders."
civilwarhome[DOT]com/sumterownership[DOT]htm
"Resolved, That this state do cede to the United States, all the right, title and claim of South Carolina to the site of Fort Sumter and the requisite quantity of adjacent territory"
-- Committee on Federal Relations, In the South Carolina House of Representatives, December 31st, 1836
KayBeeEee1983 5 days ago
@KayBeeEee1983
Hey dipshit;
if you buy a house in London, you can't tell British Parliament you're going to use it as a fort to take over the UK.
Geez you really are a fucking idiot more ways than a wise man can be savvy.
SovereignStatesman 5 days ago
@SovereignStatesman This isn't Britain, genius. We have the Constitution, which gives Congress "Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings"
If South Carolina wanted control of a fort in Charleston harbor, they could have built their own fort.
You should spend less time trolling and more time trying to get laid. You wouldn't be so angry.
KayBeeEee1983 5 days ago
@KayBeeEee1983
Ok, you ant to live up your ass. Carry on.
SovereignStatesman 5 days ago
@SovereignStatesman The Constitution isn't in my ass, it's in the National Archives, though it seems that you would prefer it be shoved up someone's ass, then shitted out, then flushed down the toilet.
KayBeeEee1983 5 days ago
@KayBeeEee1983
"The Constitution isn't in my ass"
Only a fool would think that the Constitution surrenders any nation's sovereignty.
SovereignStatesman 5 days ago
@SovereignStatesman Sovereignty doesn't mean you can break a contract or steal property that doesn't belong to you.
KayBeeEee1983 5 days ago
@KayBeeEee1983 <-----People, this is the type of idiot who thinks national sovereignty is subject to FOREIGN review, winner take all.
SovereignStatesman 5 days ago
@KayBeeEee1983 He doesn't understand what the word "sovereignty" actually means. He's never studied the law in any way. "Sovereignty" is just a magic word to him.
RonPaulHatesBlacks 2 days ago
wow..."sadly the north won" if the south won slavery would have continued existing you dumbass and that's racist
MrDanielpimen 2 months ago
@MrDanielpimen You're a dumbass. Lincoln didn't free all slaves. He freed the slaves in the South that he had no contol over. The North was allowed to keep their slaves. Lincoln was no hero to the blacks, or should not be. All this time has passed and idiots sill think the war was over slavery. Do you honestly think the people in the North fought and died to free blacks? If you do that's you're an idiot.
Suzukiboulevard 2 months ago
@rider4343 OH HELL YEAH! Rock that Secesh flag brother!
Cionaodh57 2 months ago
could you have picked a better song for this video
billycole19 2 months ago
Do you have references? You had to have read this from somewhere otherwise you're making it up.
waynerd23 2 months ago
Nice try but the many Southern States had already seceded when the Morrill Tariff passed congress. Besides the documents of secession don't mention it either but they do slavery. Economics was a big part of the War, the economics of the plantation owners keeping their slaves instead of paying workers to work the plantation.
gettyman1 2 months ago
@gettyman1 You're right! Good job debunking this bigot redneck.
waynerd23 2 months ago
@waynerd23 His point is skewed. The Morrill Tariff was guaranteed passage when Lincoln was elected. This tariff had already passed the US House of Reps in the Spring of 1860 preceding the presidential election. Lincoln & the Republican Platform promised passage of the Morrill Tariff under their leadership. The tariff was signed by President Buchanan 2 days prior to Lincoln's inauguration.
Cionaodh57 2 months ago
@Cionaodh57 I have learnt something today. I had not understood why the British were so keen to support the South. I mean they would still get their cotton whatever. It was to protect their exports to the South. The point here is the war was due to protectionist taxes which benefited the North and hurt the South. Which president enacted the law is not important.
cabadejo 2 months ago
@gettyman1 Thank god for Lincoln and the Northern Soldiers they all died to free the black man right? LMAO I guess that's why the Northern states were allowed to keep their slaves. You're another idiot who has never read the Emancipation Proclamation
Suzukiboulevard 2 months ago
@Suzukiboulevard I'm sorry but did I say shit about the Emancipation Proclamation? Didn't think so dumb ass. Those Northern Soldiers fought to keep the country together not to free the slaves. The War's main cause was slavery, amongst other causes, and the southern states being able to keep them. The maker of this video is wrong in his assumption of why the South seceded. Dumb ass moron learn to read.
gettyman1 2 months ago
@gettyman1 Wrong! An analysis proves that secession documents were written to mobilize popular support & appealed to where people lived as they were sensitive to abolitionist provocations to incite a slave revolt. Only real legislative threat that could have affected the South was the Morrill Tariff & Lincoln's election virtually guaranteed its passage though southern representatives theoretically could have stalled it in the Senate Finance committee.
Cionaodh57 1 month ago
@Cionaodh57 get over it the south wanted to keep their slaves and they thought Lincoln would lead the abolitionist movement,
gettyman1 1 month ago
Silly revisionist history. None of the secession documents say a thing about the Morril Tarrif and everything about slavery.
The blood of slavery and treason - as well as Jim Crow and the Klan will forever be on the hands of the South, and invented history like this doesn't change that.
franksinclair1 3 months ago
@franksinclair1 Would you like to withdraw your comments? The Klan is very active in midwestern northern states, as well as NY, NJ et al. Racist segregation was the NORM in most of US, eg Oregon, Illinois, PA, et al had laws prohibiting or severely limiting black settlement in those states and/or limited right to vote, et al. US apartheid was blacks were to be in South -- they were UNWELCOME EVERYWHERE ELSE! Black & white southerners are neighbors, don't fear the truth.
Cionaodh57 1 month ago
i dont get why the people that rays those flags dont get arrested because would that be considered as some kind of attempt to rise against the government?? ohh nvm freedom of speech right?
amwin67 3 months ago in playlist American-CiViL-War
@amwin67 What are you trying to say? If someone wanted to fly a swastica in their front yard they could. I'm not sure what your point is.
waynerd23 2 months ago
the south according to my understanding wanted to keep humans working hard and in very poor conditions in order to grow there economy, plus the way they ran it in that way created the belief that one race is more superior than another race just like the nazis, plus its natural for the human mind to make connections from things they see dont tell me you would not feel uneasy if u saw a black panther throw up the right fist... its not the flag that offends but its what the flag is saying.
amwin67 3 months ago in playlist American-CiViL-War
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makemebad700 3 months ago
I'm from Portugal and I absolutely despise racism and nationalism. However, I love the CSA and its flags for what they represent: opposition to unionist tyranny which unfortunately endures in the world today. I wish the South had won and that I could go and live there.
Hurrah for Dixie!
Bulhakas 3 months ago
Well ol' southern bretherin, I ask you what would you rather have? A United States that can legitimately claim to be the most powerful nation on Earth, or a divided USA/CSA that in all likelihood remains a backwater power due to constant border wars and fighting a la Europe? You cant have it both ways, and anyone who thinks it could be is truly fooling themselves. This nation has always and will always be about empire, and emperors de facto or otherwise dont just let territories secede.
snappy452 3 months ago
@snappy452 Your "powerful nation on earth" is a conniving thieving yankee empire. If there are two lines on Judgement Day before Almighty God, one marked with the US yankee standard and the other by the Confederate Battle Flag I will gladly and honorably take my chances in the line marked by the Confederate Battle flag!
Cionaodh57 1 month ago
@Cionaodh57 cool story bro.
snappy452 1 month ago
love the video im a civil war reenactor.And i know alittle about the war,the St Andrews Cross you know the one rednecks like to hang from there trucks you know lol.well that flag was just a battle flag and nothing else.the Real confederate flag was the stars and bars used as the country's flag and for a while the battle flag too.but the stars and bars looked just like the american flag so the south went to the St Andrews Cross.
officerfatty 3 months ago
@officerfatty You forget the official Second National and later THIRD NATIONAL CONFEDERATE FLAG.
Cionaodh57 1 month ago
guys if the war was about slaves then why was freeing them not an issue til the later parts of the war.
ImAwesome1277 3 months ago 4
@ImAwesome1277 Because the war wasn't started in favour of FREEING slaves; it was started in favour of DEFENDING slavery. That's what every one of the four declarations of secession proudly told the world. Remember that the war started when South Carolina fired on a federal fort.
PatchesRips 3 months ago
@ImAwesome1277 It wasn't about slaves for the north. It was ALL about slaves for the south. The south was mad that the north wasn't returning fugitive slaves. They were mad that abolitionists were calling slaveholders evil. They were mad that John Brown tried to incite a slave revolt. They were mad that an anti-slavery, pro-industry political party gained control of the white house. They were mad that free states outnumbered slave states.They were mad that Kansas was going to become a free state
KayBeeEee1983 4 weeks ago
@KayBeeEee1983
No, it was the invasion.
SovereignStatesman 5 days ago
@ImAwesome1277 If the war was about "states rights", tariffs, taxes, "liberty", or all of the PC crap that Confederate apologists claim it was about, why didn't any free states or territories choose to side with the CSA?
"the South fought on account of the thing we quarreled with the North about. I never heard of any other cause for quarrel, than slavery"...Col. John Singleton Mosby...CSA.
Oh, THAT'S why.
UnionStatesHeritage 5 days ago 3
One thing I'll agree with you on... it is unfortunate the South was brought back into the Union. The United States would be a far better country today without.
But, slavery had to be destroyed, and it was, and having to put up with the South might be seen as the punishment God placed on the North for permitting slavery to exist for so long.
PatchesRips 3 months ago
@PatchesRips So how did God punish Brazil, which ended slavery without a war and in 1888, long after it ended most everywhere else? Buffoon.
Cionaodh57 1 month ago
@Cionaodh57 "So how did God punish Brazil"
Apparently he couldn't be arsed, as in so many other ways he seems to fall down on the job. If I really believed in such fairy tales, this might pose a problem for me, but I don't, so it isn't. Hence, "MIGHT be seen as...".
PatchesRips 1 month ago
@rider4343 "Alberta is the Conservative heart of Canada and many of us rock the confederate flag."
And not a few rock the Swastika in appropriate company, too, and for most of the same reasons.
PatchesRips 3 months ago
the war was also part of slavery cuz the north wanted not only freedom to the new territories but for human rights too
irobot428 3 months ago
The South dominated US politics until 1852 because 3/5ths of its slave population was counted towards its representation in the House of Representatives and the Electoral College this allowed the slave holding states to dominate the Congress and the Presidency.When they lost their hold due to Northern population growth they clung to states' rights to protect slavery.
trajan75 3 months ago
I'm a good ole rebel now thats just what I am,And for this YANKEE NATION i do not give a damn!!
MACVSOG70 3 months ago 7
why are all the comments so long?
THEFLYINGREDNECK 4 months ago
@THEFLYINGREDNECK maybe there is a lot to say! more than you and I !
TheNmg21 4 months ago
the civil war started because new territories were starting to develop and the south wanted slaves to do their work like growing cotton so then the north fiund out and wanted the new territories to be free and for everybody to have rights but the south didnt wanna so then came the conflict called the civil war
irobot428 4 months ago
@irobot428 grant had slaves,not gen lee.put a damper in youre silly beliefs?
triggernutsy1 3 months ago
@triggernutsy1 "grant had slaves"
No, he didn't. His father-in-law, Frederick Dent, owned the slaves and the property in Missouri that Grant worked for a time in his 30s.
PatchesRips 3 months ago
the kkk killed their own white people because they were republicans now that is just som messed up shit i mean seriously protesting on the streets causing havoc to our normal everyday lives saying stupid shit about black ppl and come to find out the kkk kills white ppl starting to sound like these guys arent qiute on nayones side
irobot428 4 months ago
Good song.
MultiAngryguy 4 months ago in playlist Liked
The southern states had more representation than they deserved (3/5 clause)
The Morrill tariff was signed into law by Buchanan, not Lincoln, on March 2, 1861, after 7 states had already seceded, and it wouldn't have been able to pass through Congress if those states had stayed in the Union.
From 1857-1861, the tariff rate was at a 19th century low and one of the lowest on earth at the time (Between 17% and 21%).
Not allowing the south to secede pushed them to secede? That makes a lot of sense...
JimFreedman63 4 months ago
@eflint1: sunsite.utk.edu/civil-war/reasons.html
Mississippi in particular has no problem with the fact that they seceded over african slavery. It's sad that your nostalgia for the Confederacy requires apologist revisionist history over what they believed in.
Incidentally, all four of those documents had an open forum to mention tariffs and acts and failed to do so. My conclusion is that your conclusion is fiction. Nice try.
geekalpha 4 months ago
i have a rebel flag mounted in the back of my truck
mrdeermaster16 4 months ago
THANK YOU---Finally someone knows and tells the TRUTH!!!
DEO VINDICE !!!!
lookingforspace09 4 months ago
Actually, the morril tariff was passed before Lincoln rose to power, it was passed after 7 states already seceded, although it did drive the last 4 to secede with them.
ZePwner350 4 months ago
I wish the south would of won so every country in the world wouldn't hate mine.
And general Sherman wasn't a hero, he burned hard working southerner's homes just because they have been buildt south of D.C.
suspicioususer 5 months ago
The states documented why the left the union. Read those documents written in their own words. Four states published Declaration of Causes
of Seceding States, and only once is a tax or tariff mentioned in the grievances that they themselves state for their secession.
In short, bullshit.
geekalpha 5 months ago
@geekalpha Yes and the reasons they stated was because the north refused to extradite a murderer for trial because he was a run away slave. The south didn't want him because he was a runaway. They wanted him because he was a wanted murderer. He murdered innocent people. When the north refused, and when the party of fanatics won in 1860, the South peacefully left the Union. The North invaded and conquered the South for their own economic greed.
eflint1 4 months ago
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@eflint1 Where does it say in any of the declarations of causes that the north refused to extradite a murderer? Who are you talking about?
The south seceded peacefully? Have you heard of Fort Sumter? Did you know that Kentucky declared its neutrality as soon as the war started and the Confederacy invaded and occupied them just 4 months later?
It was actually the southern states that acted because of greed. They were deathly afraid they would lose their slaves, valued at $4,000,000,000.
KayBeeEee1983 4 months ago
Slavery was not even an issue until the second year of the war, it was necessary for the yankees to tell their men that they were fighting to free slaves ,instead just geting killed for the rich guys running the north. The war was unpopular in the north, most just want to let the south go and mind their own damn business. The yankees knew if enough men balked, then they would lose and likely be removed from power, so they started the war.
unclefixer 5 months ago
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@unclefixer The word "slave" (or some variation) is mentioned in the southern declarations of causes of secession 92 times. "Tax" or "tariff" is mentioned once and, hilariously, it's related to slavery.
If the union soldiers thought they were risking their lives to free slaves, very few men would have enlisted. Lincoln announced the Emancipation Proclamation in Sept 1862, and 6 months later the Union had to start drafting men.
If the war was unpopular in the north, how did Lincoln get reelected?
KayBeeEee1983 4 months ago
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@unclefixer "The yankees knew if enough men balked, then they would lose and likely be removed from power, so they started the war."
So if the North hadn't started the war, the northern politicians would've been removed from power, but in the previous sentence you say the war was unpopular. Do you wear velcro sneakers?
KayBeeEee1983 4 months ago
The VERY same happened to us in Rio Grande do Sul, Brasil, all about politics, our forbears tried to separate South from North, but we are still part of Brasil... and for some we are considered racists (not black vs white, but Southern vs the others).
Btw our Revolution aniversary is tomorrow, September 20th.
RammsCarvalho 5 months ago
Agreed, the war was 85% about steep taxes, but come on. If their had been no Civil War the CSA would have eventually collapsed because it had no industry and was built on slave labor, and there were signs that a total slave rebellion was just around the corner. There are definitely times that I wish the South had stayed separate (the North's IQ would be higher, we'd have less psychotic religious nutballs and FOX News would probably only have a real following in the South), what's done is done.
sideaches 6 months ago
@sideaches You have been brainwashed and have allowed yankee lies to cower your spirit. In 1861 the South had NO NAVY, yet in a matter of months southern men mined iron ore and fashioned IRON CLADS like the CSS Virginia and CSS Alabama & Arkansas that were able to do US naval vessels serious damage.
Cionaodh57 1 month ago
@Cionaodh57 Okay? So? What's your point?
sideaches 1 month ago
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@sideaches You had underestimated the will and might of southern men and southern society to rise to the occasion when confronted with overwhelming odds from an enemy that desired to eradicate Southerners from this earth. You are doing the same regarding Southerners to manage their own destiny, as if they were intrinsically incapable of doing so. Your reasoning shows you are merely repeating the official propaganda.
Cionaodh57 1 month ago
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@Cionaodh57 "In 1861 the South had NO NAVY, yet in a matter of months southern men mined iron ore and fashioned IRON CLADS like the CSS Virginia and CSS Alabama & Arkansas that were able to do US naval vessels serious damage."
Yeah, it took 11 months for the south to raise 1 sunken wooden frigate and attach iron plates to its sides. The CSS Alabama wasn't an ironclad and it was built in England by the English.
KayBeeEee1983 1 month ago
Interesting. Seems like the most practical thing the South could have done would have been to develop some heavy industry of its own. Much of the factory work could probably have been done with slave labor, which would have greatly reduced the price of the manufactured goods.
evergreenpotato 6 months ago
Oh shit. I'm in the wrong part of youtube.
ToastedFetus 6 months ago
what union did then (causin' war just to keep confederation in usa) is how different than what was serbia doing to keep kosovo inside it's borders ????????? f*cking double standards...
markorebric 6 months ago
"never let a fact get in the way of a good story " ...... this is what the south is fighting . from an Englishman who reads history and understands the facts . god bless the south !
dave2806 6 months ago 11
@dave2806 "never let a fact get in the way of a good story "
Indeed. The tariffs mentioned in this video were controversial mainly in the 1840s and 1850s. If they were the root cause of session, it would have occurred then, not in 1860/1861 when those policies had largely been ameliorated. On the other hand, South Carolina seceded only 48 days after the election of Abraham Lincoln, whose name it did not permit to appear on the ballot (along with EIGHT OTHER slaveholding states).
(cont'd)
PatchesRips 3 months ago
@dave2806 (cont'd)
Declaration of Secession, Georgia (2nd sentence):
"For the last ten years we have had numerous and serious causes of complaint against our non-slave-holding confederate States with reference to the subject of African slavery."
Declaration of Secession, Mississippi (2nd sentence):
"Our position is thoroughly identified with the institution of slavery-- the greatest material interest of the world."
(cont'd)
PatchesRips 3 months ago
@dave2806 (cont'd)
Declaration of Secession, South Carolina:
"the election of a man to the high office of President of the United States, whose opinions and purposes are hostile to slavery. He is to be entrusted with the administration of the common Government, because he has declared that that "Government cannot endure permanently half slave, half free," and that the public mind must rest in the belief that slavery is in the course of ultimate extinction."
(cont'd)
PatchesRips 3 months ago
@dave2806 (cont'd)
Declaration of Secession, Texas:
"She was received as a commonwealth holding, maintaining and protecting the institution known as negro slavery-- the servitude of the African to the white race within her limits-- a relation that had existed from the first settlement of her wilderness by the white race, and which her people intended should exist in all future time."
Not a single one mentions "tariffs", as a cause, or even in general. Every one mentions slavery BY NAME.
PatchesRips 3 months ago
The Morrill Tariff of 1861 was a protective tariff in the United States, adopted on March 2, 1861 during the administration of President James Buchanan.
This was AFTER the session of South Carolina, Mississippi, Georgia, Alabama, Florida, Louisiana, Texas, and the establishment of the Confederate Constitution and government, but BEFORE the inauguration of Abraham Lincoln. If you're going to indulge in revisionism, you might at least try a little harder.
PatchesRips 3 months ago
thats right!!! CSA!!
TheRebelsoldier12 6 months ago 2
Everyone needs to read "The South Under Siege 1830-2000" it explains it all.
southpawredneck 7 months ago
fuck liberals
13craj 7 months ago
this is all true, the north could care less about the freedom of black people. it was about money, and fear, the north thoight the south was rising against tuem, so the did what GB did, rose taxes.
123abc123man 8 months ago
Also Lincoln conversed with Karl Marx by letters and Lincoln placed Marxist Germans in high military positions. Karl Marx congratulated Lincoln for winning a second term and during the Spanish Civil War American Communists fought for the Republicans (communists) and called themselves the Lincoln Brigade.
TcArmoreden 8 months ago
*than the South
TcArmoreden 8 months ago
There were blacks in the South who owned slaves and also there were over 65000 Blacks who served in the Confederate Army and weren't seperated in seperate regimates
Like the North. The North also had a higher slave population in the South. The Civil War was not fought for slavery but for the very freedoms this country was built on, states rights.
TcArmoreden 8 months ago
You realize, though, that some states had already seceded from the union before the first of Morill's Tariffs had passed, don't you? You realize it wouldn't have passed if the Southern states hadn't broken from the union? Also, the first Morill Tariff passed on Buchanan, so you're pretty much wrong on every point you make you ignorant hick apologist.
GoodReasonNews 8 months ago
America, fuck yeah
slavery, fuck yeah
RichKilla86ers 8 months ago
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TeRanFTL 8 months ago
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TeRanFTL 8 months ago
This war was fought for the same reason all wars are fought " Money , Land and Power " ( in the modern world include oil ) Does any logical minded fool actually beleive the Union would nearly bankrupt itself and send 100 , 000s of people to die and fight brother against brother Just to free a bunch of Niggers? Note: Im not racist I just used the term nigger because in the North a black man was still just a nigger in the eyes of Northerners like in the south but he was quote un quote free.
TheBossMalaka 9 months ago
3 PEOPLE NEED TO RE-EDUCATE THEMSELVES TO THE TRUTH.
zombie2wo 9 months ago
Lincoln, and the majority of northerners, weren't in it for freeing slaves. In a letter Lincoln actually said that his main duty was to perserve the union and he would do so if it meant freeing all the slaves of keeping slavery intact. Many of the blacks who fought for the north experienced racism from other troops and even their own officers! So don't think for a minute that the north was so holier than thou about slavery.
xtremejohnny69 10 months ago
Jackass, Read the south's Declaration of Independence. Slavery is mentioned Five times. It was the only reason for the CSA. The war started when the Rebels fired on Fort Sumter. The slave owners, the equivalent of people like the Koch Bothers, today, told the poor whites Lincoln would free the slaves and the blacks woul kill and rape their women. Thus racism was the only reason for the poor whites who didn't own slaves to fight.
tammidee10 10 months ago
@tammidee10 - Slavery was an issue,cant change history.
southerneroak 9 months ago
Jackass, Read the south's Declaration of Independence. Slavery is mentioned Five times. It was the only reason for the CSA. The war started when the Rebels fired on Fort Sumter. The slave owners, the equivalent of people like the Koch Bothers, today, told the poor whites Lincoln would free the slaves and the blacks woul kill and rape their women. Thus racism was the only reason for the poor whites who didn't own slaves to fight.
tammidee10 10 months ago
The north killed most of the Native Americans the south had respect for them and they fought for the CSA do the north would not take there land
RANDCGAMEING 10 months ago
@RANDCGAMEING Agreed, who was it who refused to protect the Bison which the Native Americans depended on, oh it was Grant.
Colton8646 9 months ago
Song name? Kick ass video!
OiSkinnHead69 11 months ago
@OiSkinnHead69 Seriously?? Lol.. Big and Rich - Save a horse ride a cowboy.
kevo6987 11 months ago
LINCOLN WAS A SOCIALIST
zombie2wo 11 months ago
You are lucky that President Lincoln was a kind man and didn't want to punish the South after the was was won.
There weremany in the North that wanted treason trials and hang sargents and up in the Confederate army. Then hang all legislators that voted to secede. Then finally do what Rome did-pick up the white population in the South and scatter them all over the USA and bring Northeners into the South to kill this Southern idea but good!
mikeeshaq 1 year ago
Actually the North was buying a lot of the South's cotton to make clothing
GhettoBlaster100 1 year ago
i cant wait to tell my teacher this in american history
bigd5000100 1 year ago
Dude, it started because the South feared that Lincoln was gonna abolish slavery so they seceded but then Lincoln was like "AW HEEELLL NAW"
GhettoBlaster100 1 year ago
@GhettoBlaster100 well no the south attacked a union naval base just a few days after they started the confederation
hellzshotgun 1 year ago
Great, everything was straight forward and clear. Good informative video.
misstalker87 1 year ago
@Jake. I know what you mean, I'm very busy myself. I'm sorry for using the language I did, not very classy of me... But if you ever have time we should compare notes, I'm always interested in learning new things. I'm sure you're a smart guy, I just thought/think the video needed revising. I listened to you music you're a pretty good musician, I play too... mostly a dancer though. Anyway, peace.
tremaine7585 1 year ago
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tremaine7585 1 year ago
I believe that the war started because of a lot of things, not just slavery. Lack of resources which produces scarcity and central control of those resources. In a way it sounds like socialism.
JLANDIS1043 1 year ago
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You bum, it had very much to do with slavery you fool!!!! Fucking Christ, if you think the Civil War was about taxation you seriously missed a vast amount of information, please refer to a text book(American Passages 4th edition perhaps). If you must hang your southern flag, that's your right. However most would recommend you leave the explaining of the Civil War to the historians. I can back this up by the way with first & second hand sources.
tremaine7585 1 year ago
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You bum, it had very much to do with slavery you fool!!!! Fucking Christ, if you think the Civil War was about taxation you seriously missed a vast amount of information, please refer to a text book(American Passages 4th edition perhaps). If you must hang your southern flag, that's your right. However most would recommend you leave the explaining of the Civil War to the historians. I can back this up by the way with first & second hand sources.
tremaine7585 1 year ago
@tremaine7585 well as much as i'd love to sit here and argue with your ass i got better things to do. god bless!
Jake520520 1 year ago 12
@Jake520520 holy shit either your a troll or just one of the ddumbest people i have ever seen
hellzshotgun 1 year ago
@Jake520520 "We hold as undeniable truths that the governments of the various States, and of the confederacy itself, were established exclusively by the white race, for themselves and their posterity; that the African race had no agency in their establishment; that they were rightfully held and regarded as an inferior and dependent race, and in that condition only could their existence in this country be rendered beneficial or tolerable."
-Texas Declaration of causes for succession.
liberalmike1994 9 months ago
@Jake520520
Plus you'd have to read and learn some things first, and that's hard work, right?
MrFarcry1966 6 months ago
@tremaine7585 dude only 6% of the south owned slaves and in fact ol' honest abe was a racist he pointed all this on to slavery when he got a bad name for himself to take it as you want it but that is the truth.
bigman001000 1 year ago
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tremaine7585 1 year ago
dude, I know Abe was a racist, so was Jefferson, Franklin, Jackson, Washington etc. In the declaration of Independent Jefferson calls Indians "merciless savages" but as far as slavery at the time of the civil war there were about 1.2 million blacks in the US and they were not all "free" or 94% free like you're trying to say, thats outrageous!! In fact the "biggest market in America" at that time was to supply the slave population with food in south America.
tremaine7585 1 year ago
@tremaine7585 its cool man. well i mean slavery was probably a big part of it but i think a war over money is a little more legit.. i believe that if just slavery was the issue they wouldnt have wasted the money and lives for a huge war. i myself am not racist but i'm from the south and have ancestors that fought in the war for southern independence..
Jake520520 1 year ago
@tremaine7585 I'm pretty sure historians would give a different explanation...i don't need to say anything else...but yes, do leave it to the historians so bums like yourself can screw themselves!
xXStefan90Xx 1 year ago
@tremaine7585 It doesn't sound like you know that Lincoln signed the Emancipation Proclamation to keep Britain and France out of the war. Of course, you won't read that in a Wikipedia version of what happened. If you have a first hand source, I'd like to meet this person who's got to be what, around 175 years old now?
roydu100 1 year ago
@tremaine7585 it had hardly anything to do with slavery all we wanted to do was to break away from the union and be a free nation in the south but they wuldnt let us so we decided to fight for it
Kane16802 1 year ago
@tremaine7585 Man the civil war was not fought about slavery and anyone who thinks it was is a complete and utter cock. In history class you may have learned about the so called border states... another name for these states is Union Slave State. That is right not many people know because it is not actively taught in school today that Missouri, Kentucky, West Virginia, Maryland, and Delaware remained in the Union as slave holding states. The North did not even free the slaves in these states.
killerTjunior 1 year ago
@tremaine7585 When Lincoln signed the emancipation proclamation it did not apply to the Union Slave States it only applied to the states in the south. Not surprisingly the south did not comply with Lincoln's proclamation because, well, as they had seceded they did not consider themselves part of the Union and therefore should not have to follow their laws.
killerTjunior 1 year ago
@tremaine7585 I DONT KNOW HOW IT HAPPEND
TheGangstaogloc 1 year ago
@tremaine7585 i am sorry to have to break this to you but the south paid 80% of the taxes and made up only 6% of the nation that is how the civil war started.
worseto 1 year ago
@worseto THE SOUTH HAD THE RIGHT TO SECEDE JUST LIKE POLAND,BALTIC STATES..PALESTINE...PERFECTLY LEGAL...THE SOUTH WAS VICIOUSLY ATTACKED FIRST.
zombie2wo 11 months ago
@zombie2wo
How?
Prodigy188 11 months ago
@tremaine7585 fuck you I AM BLACK AND DONT THINK THIS FLAG IS RACIST
TheGangstaogloc 1 year ago
@tremaine7585 you have been miss informed... why would a country go to war over something that only affected 6% of the population...I've researched this for over 30 years..my ancestors fought for the south because of unfair taxation..its in our family records..My father's great,great grandfather was native american,he fought with the confederate indian rebels to get their land back from the union...do your homework
zombie2wo 11 months ago
@zombie2wo The tax was issued, not because the north were being bullies but because they were being negatively affected while the south was flourishing. It was to protect the north not harm the south, you know? "Union". I don't think I need to tell you that the slaves were the ones on the plantations picking the cotton... Now if there were no slaves who would be picking the cotton?
What I do know is the cotton industry would not have flourished in the south had it not been for slaves, :
tremaine7585 11 months ago
@zombie2wo hence there wouldn't have been a tax in the first place... So when you said it only affected 6% of the population, that's just not true, they had the biggest unjust enrichment ever (slavery), and at the norths expense. Total gread in my book. So I don't think that is, as you say "unfair taxes" ,they were getting free labor from millions of africans making tons of money AND hurting the norths economy... Please tell me whats unfair?
tremaine7585 11 months ago
@tremaine7585 you know American Passages was written mainly by Northern men a southern general is quoted as "i refuse to let the southern children to learn from nothern wrote text books therefore i fight until i die"
wizard101nerdnoob 8 months ago
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You bum, it had very much to do with slavery you fool!!!! Fucking Christ, if you think the Civil War was about taxation you seriously missed a vast amount of information, please refer to a text book(American Passages 4th edition perhaps). If you must hang your southern flag, that's your right. However most would recommend