Swash plate leveling using a zip tie 450 helicopter

[ianholt1]

I have been flying fow about 15 years and this is a great tip. Not 100% accurate but certainly close enough for 99% of flyers. Thanks for sharing.

[22NiggaPlease]

i dont understand this

[magetpr]

Was just researching since I dont have a swash leveler and none are available. Thanks so much for the simple tip! Appreciate it!

[kartopla1982]

Your a genius. A simple solution to a complex problem.

[LunarW0lf]

I like tits too!

[sticksplusbullets]

good teknik bro....its even easier n faster than having to remove everything from the top...nice job......thumbs up...

[daddygamer]

this is a great tip for noobs like me. you explained this well and made me understand how swashplates can be adjusted. i used it and it helped stabilize my 450.

[Canute36]

Thank you for this! I just got a Esky Belt Cp Cx 450 and found that everyone is out of stock on 450 levelers. I quickly learned my that my eyes can't be trusted to 'eyeball it' and after using this tip I further realized just how off I was. Seems to have done the trick quite nicely.

[punishr36]

Mount an indicator on a bell clamp, off the main shaft,, pc of cake.

[cafediablo30]

I just got into th hobby and found out how urgent i needed to level my swash, unfortunately for me I haven"t been able to find a leveling tool, it seems that their sold out or backordered everywhere I've checked, ur method works, but I had to modify because the part where it zipps through is too big and won't let th length down close enough to touch, so I folded a piece of black tape onto it and now it works for my swash, thanx for th tipp brother, peace.

[SurianoSales]

@cafediablo30 Thanks, Good luck newbie! I hope it flew well for you.

[Twisterr1000]

@cafediablo30 wot hel ihav u got ??? i am new to 6ch and i have got and exi 450 kit.

[TKDMario08]

@cafediablo30 EspritModel in Florida has them in stock.

[SurianoSales]

Please keep in mind this is not supposed to be perfect but it will sure be closer than not using anything at all. I do agree that a little larger of a zip tie might be better but I havnt tried it. This exact method I use after I have used a swashplate tool during setup and just checking before I go to the field. It has proved itself to work for me time and time again.

Thanks for all the positive feedback guys.

[jbx907]

This the best method i have ever learned thanks very much for sharing!

[CJVideoProductions]

Nice!! I recently went to setup my swash on my PRO and my V2 swash tool didn't fit.... gotta try this!!!

[tarashti]

You are very good man

thanks from Persia

[3dwannab]

Very good tip!!!!!! this would work good for some of the mini/micro heli's that have no swash leveler available. Thans again....

3d

[YupHio]

This is a great little tip, i'll use this on my next build. Haven't decided if i'm gonna build a 450 or a 600...

[PHeMoX]

@NewWorldRebellion1 If you check whether the zip tie moves, you'll be fine. It's mostly about getting the basic setup done anyway, fine adjustments need to be made even when you use an actual swash leveling tool!

Oh, by the way, thicker zip ties work even better!

[CrazyHeliDude]

Great quick tip for those who don't have a swash leveler.

[sjcomputerdude]

I still say the only way to level it, is to eye it then fly it and flip it - then adjust a little.

[losifanatic]

I have a blade SR and there is no swash leveler for it. This is going to help me alot! I dont trust my eyes. Thanks for the Idea

[danspratt2]

a fair technique, but ive never really understood swashplate leveling, surely if its level, its wrong, as the helicopter will drift to the left as a result of the tail rotor? and the swash plate must accordingly be tilted slightly to the right...

[SurianoSales]

@danspratt2

Sounds like you do understand swash leveling. If you know its level than you can correct your drift with the desired amount of adjustments to your linkange. All before you even fly it in the air! Leveling the swash is just a starting point to having everything " SQUARE" so to speak. I know some people dont care about this stuff...but I find there is more that do. Have a great day heli dudes!

[PHeMoX]

@SurianoSales Great technique as I've just forgot to bring my swash leveling tool with me today. Thanks!

[CrazyHeliDude]

@danspratt2 - As the swash plate moves up and down, if it isn't level at all points along its vertical travel, it would be similar to randomly adjusting the cyclic one way or the other. It makes for more sporadic flight and unpredictable behavior from the heli ... perhaps causing it to be more "twitchy." With a swash plate that is level throughout its collective travel, the helicopter flies more "solid" and stable.

[PHeMoX]

@CrazyHeliDude I haven't followed that discussion, but the answer lies in making subtrim adjustments until it will move level in all swash heights. Cheers.

[trexinvert]

@danspratt2 I can tell you have rc plane background. There is a tendency to add trim, which is fine for beginners. However, always keep this in mind. Helicopters will naturally have a tilt and it is somewhat dependent on rotor speed. So, you may have it "flat" in normal mode, but if you go to idle up(higher rpm) it will lean. Whatchagonna do then? You really have to learn to fly with a "lean" especially as you progress and fly sideways and do funnel turns. Nature of the beast.

[DavidSunshine867]

@danspratt2

This technique is great, thanks for sharing.

You do not want to correct for drift due to the rudder at all, as this will skew your swashplate to the right, if you do tick tocks, or punch out from an inverted hover, or even upright hover, your skew will cause the the climbout to be curved, and you'll have to autocorrect for that.

The best heli setup in my opinion would be a perfectly squared off swash and paddles, etc.

[SurianoSales]

@NewWorldRebellion1

Sounds like you have supermans eye balls. This wasnt meant to be a perfect way to setup. Only if you have no swash plate leveler and dont trust your eyes.

Your comments are no good to anyone, keep them to your self. Its stupid to come on here and attack me because you are to stupid to realize what the video is about.

[LeChave]

Now why didn't I think of that lol! What a great tip! Now we just need a cheeky low cost blade balancing and tracking tool and we're all good!!! Deffo thumbs up rate for this!

[jasonalara]

Some of the best ideas are so simple! This one is awesome! Thanks.

[xanox1]

You rock :D

Great thinking keep it up :)

[SurianoSales]

Thanks for the comment! Thanks for checking it out.

[itsjojo4]

Ok now! You get a thumbs up for this one... That's clever!

[trexinvert]

Great tip for field checking the swash level without removing the rotorhead. Definitely, more accurate than just eyeballing it. However, if you want to solely rely on this method(ditch the swash level tool), I'd recommend using a big tie-wrap(for maximum perpendicularity) and some way to restrain the tie-wrap from sliding up/down. Sliding up/down will drive you crazy trying to set the subtrim to level. Stay Safe Keep Simmin.

[SurianoSales]

@trexinvert

Great advise! Using a larger zip tie would def. keep it from bending. With the smaller ones just take your time and go over it a few times to make sure you are not bending the zip tie.

Thanks for the response...

[chukeegeorge]

Great tip for novice like me. Thanks.

[SurianoSales]

@chukeegeorge No problem bro. Should have more to come soon...

[STdemoniac]

thanks for help to novice :)

great video

[bretuk1]

Great 5*

[krxprt]

I just subsribed. Great idea! Simple and fast.

[thedjgee]

This is great. Simple and very effective way

Thanks for sharing!!!

[SurianoSales]

Thanks for the comment. I am glad others are using it. I made the video because of how good it worked for me and thought others could use it for sure!

[MrRonie2011]

@SurianoSales

Great idea..

[peterasimpson]

I've now setup 2 helis from scratch using this method. It works 100% perfect. It's much easier and quicker than using a swash plate levelling tool and more precise than just looking and guessing.

I now recommend to heli flyers to use this method and watch this video.

Thanks man :-)

[tendo1980]

Great tip.

I will try it out, I also found the "real" swashplate leveler's to be a bit of a hassle, this is cheap, easy and hopefully functional, thanks.