@ScorpiosBite1 it depends what you got on your speed3, speed3 doest have a lot of torque but if your speed3 is stock, i bet you that you cannot beat an rsx type-s, if you don't believe me, come race my rsx type-s and i'll prove it to you
@karsseboomh22 msp3 is a 2.3L turbocharged putting out 263hp... these simple/brilliant 2L with a few bolt-ons make that much without an issue... you=fail. Enjoy the torque steer.
@crazykyle09 I agree with you. MSP3 is a fast car, no doubt, but I fuking hate retards who compare vehicles that are nowhere close to being in the same category. Thats like idiots commenting on a SS/SC video beating an RX8, then commenting saying "ohh my RX7 twin turbo beats the shit outta that ss/sc"
Like no shit, its a rotary, right off the bat pushing out more power than the rx-8 with twin turbo. just as bad as someone saying "my toyota supra (V6 Twin Turbo) beats that ss/sc" like wtf lol
@karsseboomh22 forced induction vs all motor.... simple enough... rsx-s n civic si's are great n/a cars and i/h/e n tune will smash alot of different cars
@jimihendrix910 no "keyboard warrior" here. i was speaking maturely to the other guy who got mad at me for saying that the 05-06 RSX-S has 201hp, not 210hp. i was trying to tell him the numbers have been SAE corrected, but he didnt know what that was. then he took it like i said RSX-S was slow. he thinks his 15 sec RSX-S with intake is "fast" and my 00 civic with RSX-S motor should lose. i competely rape the RSX-S
I'm done arguing about which car is faster. I mean we are talking about 10hp difference max. Who cares? In the end z3 has better head and better for building. And the 197hp rating was given after Honda changed how they rated their motors
@joescivic well, i don't know where you learned that from, but i'm sure my car has 210ph plus i got cool air intake on it. By the way, everytime i pass by the Si people, they don't even look at my face; they are just respecting me and slow down...i think you should test drive both of the cars so you will feel which one is more powerful..
@knyawthwe well im correct, just google it, or go to the Acura dealer website and you will see. and in no way did i say that the Si is faster than the RSX-S. i only corrected you on what horsepower and torque the k20z1 makes. besides, my civic would smoke both the Si and your RSX-S even if the RSX-S had Kpro and i/h/e. if i stood up for the Si motor, i would have gotten that motor swap instead of an RSX-S motor swap. both those cars are still a drivers race though.
@joescivic oh oh so you are corrected me about the hp and torque. I see, and you also said your civic and smoke both Si and Rsx-s. well, that's good imagination. I appreciate your powerful imagination..hahahahahah wow! i can't even breath; i'm laughing about the regular honda imagine he can smoke performance honda Si and RSx-s..hahahaha...
@knyawthwe um i said i have an RSX-S motor swap. its a 200hp 142tq k20a2 in my 2000 civic coupe which is 3-400lbs lighter than an RSX-S. yes, if all you have is a cold air intake, then my car will rape yours. and the new Si. bolt on RSX's and Si's dont even beat me. they are 15 sec cars when im beating 13.5 sec cars.
@joescivic oh so you have rsx-s that's cool...yeah i will put turbo on it, but my car currently fucked up..I got accident last week on freeway...it was raining hard, and the car span four times and crushed the sideroad...yeah i was lucky, but the car pretty much messed up..
@knyawthwe the acura dealer site shows it being SAE corrected for the 06, but not for the 05 RSX-S. but it is the same for the 05. they're both 201hp 140tq. like i said, google the newest stadards for calculating HP and TQ. like i say to everyone on this gay site, ive driven hondas for 10 years, so i think i know what im talking about, especially when i have a K20 motor myself.
I liked it, jdm is jdm guys, I laugh at retards who get all angry and shit. Looked like a pretty even race. Honda's and Acura is one in the same. So all this fanboy, gay shit needs to be stopped.
amen to hondas!!... i love it when people talk shit about them..... just because its a honda does not mean its slow... does little 4 cylinder cars can creare some amazing power
"Almost beat a Mustang GT?" Wow, dude. I had an '03 Mustang GT and I spanked the dog crap out of 2006+ Civic Si's all the time. Given there were the occasional few which had a turbo setup, but stock? They didn't stand much of a chance.
@BlackCrow1515 older gt's really aint that fast. they will run low 14's with a good run. an si can run high 14's with a good run. that is only about a car length or two. its not like thats getting smoked by any definitions of the word
Mine wasn't stock and I'm not sure what was done to it. I bought it from CarMax. I know it had a catback exhaust system and I'm pretty sure it was chipped. I only ran premium unleaded in it and it would almost tie a 2001 SVT Cobra.
cause most people who talk shit are just fanboys of whatever car they grew up drooling over. They understand nothing of engineering and how truly amazing these Honda engines are and how achieving 100 Hp/L is no small thing on a N/A setup. The K20 and even older gen. Honda motors are damn near bullet proof and are capable of some phenomenal numbers.
it's too bad they stopped making the rsx back in 06.. ever since then, honda has been tuning their k20 engine on the Civic only. they've improved on slight stuff, such as changing the design on the intake manifold.
i had a 06 rsx type s with full exhaust and intake and i have a 09 civic si now and i like the civic better the lsd makes it so much easier to drive off the line and it just feels more refined its hard to explain
Yea i totally agree i have an 04 type S and my friends Si feels great. but i think the type S and Si are GREAT competition. winner always seems to be the better driver.
imo i don't c the si n rsx-s as competition since they have the same motor and r made by the same company in a way... cuz wut honda owns acura or vice versa... newho i love em both i was gonna get a rsx of course the type s just lyk if u get a civic u gotta get the si lol. But i neva drove the rsx but i assume it's as good as the si... all n all the Japs r smart with their ALL MOTOR N/A 4 bangers.... Swallow that Cobalt ss/tc... lol i've left that on lyk all my comments rofl...
dude. lovin the NA power that honda produces. and i still dont understand why people still talk shit on honda. when we make almost 100hp liter with the type s and the si
seriously... they just mad cuz their cars can't compete.... Personally i don't lyk hondas due to the fact they r me 2 cars. Meaning Every1 n their grandma has 1 lol. But the si at least n jersey i don't rly c prob seen 4 since i got mine in october of 08' till now. So i'm happy that i don't have a me2 car lol. O and when ppl ask wut i got i say i got a civic SI, i make sure they know it's no dx,lx,ex, or ex-l but the best we have n the USA the si... I wish i had the mugen rr bro 237hp 160torque
@stuna101a really? i had a 2006 ex. it was nice inside but with the single cam, it wasnt to my expectations. but it was so smooth! and the clutch was just... perfect... plus the woofer. very comf. i traded it for a 06 rsx and the rsx is built more for a racer. shudda got the si tho
@stuna101a im actually glad to hear you say that. (sorry i know this comment is a year old) im considering a civic si but its cheaper to get an rsx-s. i was afraid that i might be wasting my money getting the more expensive civic.
Nope, I thought that as well too though. It's the Si that is heavier. Because I didn't wanna be biased, I looked at the stats for both ther Si and the RSX Type S:
Si:
0-60: 7.2 seconds, although Honda claims it's 6.7.
I see...wait, didn't RSX Type-S get a different engine after a certain model? I know the newer ones had K20Z1...yeah I think the 05-up models got the Z1, am I wrong?
You are correct. K20Z1's were in the 05+ RSX Type S's rated @ 210 hp @ 7800 RPM. But I mean, 10 hp difference doesn't really feel any different behind the wheel.
K20A2 was 200 hp @ 7400 rpm. Both engines had the Vtec kick at 5800 rpm too.
@y0h3s the 06+ civic is heavier than the 05-06 RSX-S by like 50lbs, and heavier than the 02-04 RSX-S by around 90lbs or more. the acura website no longer shows the 02-04 models, so i dont know their weight anymore.
06+Si: k20z3- 197hp 139tq
02-04 RSX-S: k20a2- 200hp 142tq
05-06 RSX-S: k20z1- 201hp 140tq
i know the other guy basically answered, i just thought id add a couple things. but i have a k20a2 swapped in my civic. id rather have more 2 more torque than gain 1 HP. lol
@BlazinChikn23 yeah, we have the same car basically, except mine is labled as a EJ8. but it looks just like the EM1 minus the fact that its silver. you can see it in one of my videos, and my background pic which is my old front lip. now i have an OEM Si lip. but yeah. its basically just a stock motor, and ive beaten b18c1 swapped civics, including my friends 93 hatch. oh, BTW, the k20z1 isnt really 210hp. its 201hp SAE corrected. whats the B18C4 come from? you in another country?
@joescivic haha. im answering my own question. you're from Canada as i see on your channel. but when i said i beat my friends B18c1 93 hatch, i slowly walked it. those motors are still good though, especially if you're really light like his car. he now has a boosted Integra GSr with a JDM front end, so i cant rematch him =(
K20Z1 I looked up on wikipedia, according to what they said. EJ8's and Em1's are the same as you said..I just don't know why they would label it differently. the B18C4's come from the UK and AUS Civic 1.8 VTi's. I had it ordered from England. Paid $1,400 for it. Not bad, but the car is pretty slow. 169 hp. If ever you're in Toronto, let me know lol I'd like to see how I would do against a K20A2. I'm looking at changing my head to B16a..
@BlazinChikn23 yeah, wikipedia aint always the best. its not updated,or entirely true. i still use it at times since some things are correct though. hah. but the EJ8 comes with a d16y8 singlecam motor, black side skirts instead of paint matched ones, no front lip like the EM1 (but i think you could have had the dealership put one on for you), very slightly different seats, and different guauge cluster. plus. EM1 only came in 99-00. EJ8 or als EJ7 came from 96-00. EM1 also come blue black and red
@BlazinChikn23 god i hate character counts. lol. another thing, since mine is an EX, its EJ8. in Canada the Si is the EX here, so that would be your EJ8. what you have is the SiR. i know, the reasons they changed chassis codes is dumb if you ask me. making you Si the EX here, and our Si here is your SiR. lol. you should get rid of that motor you have, and pick up this k24a2 for $1600. located in texas. 200hp 166tq. you'll love a K. but im sure theres people there you can challenge with a K-swap
@BlazinChikn23 oh nooooo. it will still be 200hp. you can build the k24 to be all motor with over 300hp and still have 200+tq. cams kind of kill the torque you get. for example, theres a guy with an EM1 (k2499si in my favorites) with a k24a2, and he has 217hp 182tq. another video of a guy with 230hp 190tq. so yeah, to cam it afterwards, and everything else to get 100+hp but only like 20-30 more torque kind of sucks, but it will stil be a beast. im sure i would lose to a stock k24a2 swapped EJ8
the civic and the rsx will stay together until 4th gear, civic will start to pull on the type s becuace it's a longer gear.
poonpiratex420 8 months ago
rsx had unbolted exhaust thats why it was such a close race...
Tj1056 8 months ago
THEIR BOTH K20'S so its going to be a pretty even race if both the drivers can drive that is...
bllstrt6 1 year ago
its all bout honda's all day every day tha only reason tha rsx won becuse they probably had something a lil extra under tha hood lls.
wirlpool27 1 year ago
nice run
AZSlickRick623 1 year ago
fuck, rice must be cheap to buy these days
cavX2 1 year ago
@cavX2 you are a retard... when are you getting your car btw? old enough to drive? I doubt....
LAVASTICK 1 year ago
@cavX2 Wonder how the Mustangs you buy today make 300HP but get high 20s for gas mileage? Honda has been engineering that for almost 30 years.
crazykyle09 1 year ago
that was one of the closest races i've seen
mattnd123 1 year ago
hahahahahahahahah a spicvic and an rsx-ass--- Both torqueless tin cans. The speed3 will toast both of em.
ScorpiosBite1 1 year ago
@ScorpiosBite1 it depends what you got on your speed3, speed3 doest have a lot of torque but if your speed3 is stock, i bet you that you cannot beat an rsx type-s, if you don't believe me, come race my rsx type-s and i'll prove it to you
DarkKnightK20 1 year ago
@DarkKnightK20 stock for stock a msp3 will destroy a rsx-s it wont even be close. the stock ms3 run high 13s
karsseboomh22 1 year ago
@karsseboomh22 msp3 is a 2.3L turbocharged putting out 263hp... these simple/brilliant 2L with a few bolt-ons make that much without an issue... you=fail. Enjoy the torque steer.
crazykyle09 1 year ago
@crazykyle09 I dont have a ms3 i drive hondas but people are saying the rsx will win and it wont simple as that
karsseboomh22 1 year ago
@crazykyle09 I agree with you. MSP3 is a fast car, no doubt, but I fuking hate retards who compare vehicles that are nowhere close to being in the same category. Thats like idiots commenting on a SS/SC video beating an RX8, then commenting saying "ohh my RX7 twin turbo beats the shit outta that ss/sc"
Like no shit, its a rotary, right off the bat pushing out more power than the rx-8 with twin turbo. just as bad as someone saying "my toyota supra (V6 Twin Turbo) beats that ss/sc" like wtf lol
woods1002 1 year ago
@karsseboomh22 forced induction vs all motor.... simple enough... rsx-s n civic si's are great n/a cars and i/h/e n tune will smash alot of different cars
weigraf34 10 months ago
wow neck to neck.
Alphabuck 1 year ago
All you little keyboard warriors.....really what does this acomplish?
jimihendrix910 1 year ago
@jimihendrix910 no "keyboard warrior" here. i was speaking maturely to the other guy who got mad at me for saying that the 05-06 RSX-S has 201hp, not 210hp. i was trying to tell him the numbers have been SAE corrected, but he didnt know what that was. then he took it like i said RSX-S was slow. he thinks his 15 sec RSX-S with intake is "fast" and my 00 civic with RSX-S motor should lose. i competely rape the RSX-S
joescivic 1 year ago
i raced on looked just like that
bjules954 1 year ago
I'm done arguing about which car is faster. I mean we are talking about 10hp difference max. Who cares? In the end z3 has better head and better for building. And the 197hp rating was given after Honda changed how they rated their motors
palefaced1 1 year ago
oh and they are they both have the same gene, but rsx-s is Si's father and they are high performance..that's why it has 210hp.
knyawthwe 1 year ago
@knyawthwe actually, the 05-06 RSX-S is 201hp 140tq SAE corrected. been that way for a long time now. 02-04 is 200hp 142tq.
joescivic 1 year ago
@joescivic well, i don't know where you learned that from, but i'm sure my car has 210ph plus i got cool air intake on it. By the way, everytime i pass by the Si people, they don't even look at my face; they are just respecting me and slow down...i think you should test drive both of the cars so you will feel which one is more powerful..
knyawthwe 1 year ago
@knyawthwe well im correct, just google it, or go to the Acura dealer website and you will see. and in no way did i say that the Si is faster than the RSX-S. i only corrected you on what horsepower and torque the k20z1 makes. besides, my civic would smoke both the Si and your RSX-S even if the RSX-S had Kpro and i/h/e. if i stood up for the Si motor, i would have gotten that motor swap instead of an RSX-S motor swap. both those cars are still a drivers race though.
joescivic 1 year ago
@joescivic oh oh so you are corrected me about the hp and torque. I see, and you also said your civic and smoke both Si and Rsx-s. well, that's good imagination. I appreciate your powerful imagination..hahahahahah wow! i can't even breath; i'm laughing about the regular honda imagine he can smoke performance honda Si and RSx-s..hahahaha...
knyawthwe 1 year ago
@knyawthwe um i said i have an RSX-S motor swap. its a 200hp 142tq k20a2 in my 2000 civic coupe which is 3-400lbs lighter than an RSX-S. yes, if all you have is a cold air intake, then my car will rape yours. and the new Si. bolt on RSX's and Si's dont even beat me. they are 15 sec cars when im beating 13.5 sec cars.
joescivic 1 year ago
@joescivic oh so you have rsx-s that's cool...yeah i will put turbo on it, but my car currently fucked up..I got accident last week on freeway...it was raining hard, and the car span four times and crushed the sideroad...yeah i was lucky, but the car pretty much messed up..
knyawthwe 1 year ago
@knyawthwe well, i have a 2000 civic coupe EX, but with an RSX-S motor.
joescivic 1 year ago
@joescivic
Do you have the K20A2 or K20Z1
y0h3s 1 year ago
@knyawthwe the acura dealer site shows it being SAE corrected for the 06, but not for the 05 RSX-S. but it is the same for the 05. they're both 201hp 140tq. like i said, google the newest stadards for calculating HP and TQ. like i say to everyone on this gay site, ive driven hondas for 10 years, so i think i know what im talking about, especially when i have a K20 motor myself.
joescivic 1 year ago
@snox440racer
Different motor yeah k20, but k20a2 vs k20z3 aka DIFFERENT si 197hp rsx 205-210hp
palefaced1 1 year ago
yeah Si has 197hp and Rsx-s has 210hp nothing to compare...so please Si people don't even think about it..
knyawthwe 1 year ago
I liked it, jdm is jdm guys, I laugh at retards who get all angry and shit. Looked like a pretty even race. Honda's and Acura is one in the same. So all this fanboy, gay shit needs to be stopped.
CWLTT 2 years ago
Different motor dumbass
palefaced1 2 years ago
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Snox440racer 1 year ago
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Snox440racer 1 year ago
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: @palefaced1 its actually the same engine..k20
Snox440racer 1 year ago
are you fucken retarded of course they dont have the same engine do some research dude
RsX714 2 years ago
thy were even till da civic let off..n actualy the si has the best k series motor of them all k20z3 ...
cleank2o 2 years ago
SI is drive by wire, and it sucks cocks. Other than that, love'em...prefer the sedan over the coupe, not a fan of the back-end of the coupe =/.
bacardi198 2 years ago
The sedan actually handles better than the coupe due to a better weight balance.
BlackCrow1515 2 years ago
thats a perfect race
gcandsp222 2 years ago
amen to hondas!!... i love it when people talk shit about them..... just because its a honda does not mean its slow... does little 4 cylinder cars can creare some amazing power
yourniga 2 years ago
if a 4 cili honda can almost beat a mustang gt in straight-line speed, just imagine honda making a V8!!! :0
herky303 2 years ago
"Almost beat a Mustang GT?" Wow, dude. I had an '03 Mustang GT and I spanked the dog crap out of 2006+ Civic Si's all the time. Given there were the occasional few which had a turbo setup, but stock? They didn't stand much of a chance.
BlackCrow1515 2 years ago 2
@BlackCrow1515 older gt's really aint that fast. they will run low 14's with a good run. an si can run high 14's with a good run. that is only about a car length or two. its not like thats getting smoked by any definitions of the word
herky303 2 years ago
Mine wasn't stock and I'm not sure what was done to it. I bought it from CarMax. I know it had a catback exhaust system and I'm pretty sure it was chipped. I only ran premium unleaded in it and it would almost tie a 2001 SVT Cobra.
BlackCrow1515 2 years ago
@BlackCrow1515 well a 03 gt is only around 215rwhp after the drivetrain loss so technically a rsx-s can match a gt of those 99-04 years
r0llindubs 1 year ago
fulimameri
0146fnnq 2 years ago
same cars...different bodies...one has LSD (civic) other doesn't...
rockawearbadboy 2 years ago
cause most people who talk shit are just fanboys of whatever car they grew up drooling over. They understand nothing of engineering and how truly amazing these Honda engines are and how achieving 100 Hp/L is no small thing on a N/A setup. The K20 and even older gen. Honda motors are damn near bullet proof and are capable of some phenomenal numbers.
xitup1 2 years ago
@xitup1: you know your stuff. Sadly, much of your understanding might be lost on some of the 'audience' hereabouts.
Agent268 2 years ago
thats sad for the civic si so much more horsepower but still lost
seanycha 2 years ago
lol wtf..."so much more horsepower"???? Do you know anything about these cars....sounded like such a retard there.
xitup1 2 years ago
k20A2...k20Z3 lovin it
i <3 my HONDA
miamipacheco 2 years ago
... "almost" the same engine as stated by others and again, more or less a driver's race. Although, hands down the new SI feels more refined.
Nexx 2 years ago 2
yeah dude, i agree totally.
mbwoodstock2010 2 years ago 2
it's too bad they stopped making the rsx back in 06.. ever since then, honda has been tuning their k20 engine on the Civic only. they've improved on slight stuff, such as changing the design on the intake manifold.
PeterLikesAsianGirl 2 years ago
I agree with stuna101a...i have ridden in an RSX and driven an SI...i think the SI feels alot more refined and new.
Ijustmadethisup4 2 years ago
i had a 06 rsx type s with full exhaust and intake and i have a 09 civic si now and i like the civic better the lsd makes it so much easier to drive off the line and it just feels more refined its hard to explain
stuna101a 2 years ago 14
I thought by "lsd", u meant the drug lol
not limited slip differential
BIGC3002 2 years ago
Yea i totally agree i have an 04 type S and my friends Si feels great. but i think the type S and Si are GREAT competition. winner always seems to be the better driver.
miemetallicmind 2 years ago
imo i don't c the si n rsx-s as competition since they have the same motor and r made by the same company in a way... cuz wut honda owns acura or vice versa... newho i love em both i was gonna get a rsx of course the type s just lyk if u get a civic u gotta get the si lol. But i neva drove the rsx but i assume it's as good as the si... all n all the Japs r smart with their ALL MOTOR N/A 4 bangers.... Swallow that Cobalt ss/tc... lol i've left that on lyk all my comments rofl...
blueceligts180 2 years ago
dude. lovin the NA power that honda produces. and i still dont understand why people still talk shit on honda. when we make almost 100hp liter with the type s and the si
miemetallicmind 2 years ago
seriously... they just mad cuz their cars can't compete.... Personally i don't lyk hondas due to the fact they r me 2 cars. Meaning Every1 n their grandma has 1 lol. But the si at least n jersey i don't rly c prob seen 4 since i got mine in october of 08' till now. So i'm happy that i don't have a me2 car lol. O and when ppl ask wut i got i say i got a civic SI, i make sure they know it's no dx,lx,ex, or ex-l but the best we have n the USA the si... I wish i had the mugen rr bro 237hp 160torque
blueceligts180 2 years ago
lmao, i rank on 350Z drivers cuz thats definatly me2...yet i own an civic FA5 Habi SI
always specify SI*
miamipacheco 2 years ago
Very similar to the E60 M5 (5.0 liter and 500hp) Obviously not in the same league, of course
ronniearnold10 2 years ago
That's because they have the same engine. Therefore, they should always end up tying, and that means the winner is the better driver, not the car.
ruunit 2 years ago
@stuna101a really? i had a 2006 ex. it was nice inside but with the single cam, it wasnt to my expectations. but it was so smooth! and the clutch was just... perfect... plus the woofer. very comf. i traded it for a 06 rsx and the rsx is built more for a racer. shudda got the si tho
Kapo465 1 year ago
@stuna101a im actually glad to hear you say that. (sorry i know this comment is a year old) im considering a civic si but its cheaper to get an rsx-s. i was afraid that i might be wasting my money getting the more expensive civic.
rkjpsn 1 year ago
GREAT RACE, whos car made that intense vtech sound towards the end, sounded nice
praetorian2150 2 years ago
its the type s one.
adunn225 2 years ago
They are in the type s
RainG36 2 years ago
dc5 shouldve slowly walked past the Si..... its lighter and probably has 2 to 5 more BHPs than the Si.
I have an Si....and I believe a stock dc5 should take a stock si down by .1 to .2 of a sec.
nayil100 3 years ago 2
not really lighter by much
HONDAaSIf 3 years ago
no si is ligher for about 80 pounds
dc52002 3 years ago
um no. rsx is ligher.
RuizD 2 years ago
Si vs RSX-S is almost always a drivers race
RaptorX34 3 years ago 7
i'll co-sign, very true sir.
bacardi198 2 years ago
indeed it is...these cars are both so similar and both great cars....respect!
xitup1 2 years ago
don't they have the same engine?
Offroadhummer189 3 years ago 15
lol....ya they are the same car. Funny race...know the out come before I watched the vid. Same cars, engines, ecu's, and everything else.
kdmysterio6259 3 years ago 3
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si got a diff. intake manifold....rsx is 125 lbs lighter.....BOTH SLOW THO
joe00pimp 3 years ago
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Osairus514 3 years ago
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Osairus514 3 years ago
The DC5 has a k20a2 engine with 200 hp, and the si has a k20z3 engine with 197 hp
Osairus514 3 years ago 2
almost the dc5 has just ah bit more power tho
QUICK1DC2 3 years ago
@Offroadhummer189 Doesn't mean one was designed better. Rsx stock vs stock would smoke Si's all day
andrewpustay08 1 year ago
@andrewpustay08 there the same shyt
Feliz8000 1 year ago
@Offroadhummer189
Nope. Type S has K20A2 and Civic Si has K20Z3. 3 hp difference.
BlazinChikn23 1 year ago
@BlazinChikn23
Which car is heavier...I'm thinking the Type S?
y0h3s 1 year ago
@y0h3s
Nope, I thought that as well too though. It's the Si that is heavier. Because I didn't wanna be biased, I looked at the stats for both ther Si and the RSX Type S:
Si:
0-60: 7.2 seconds, although Honda claims it's 6.7.
1/4-mile: 15.1 @ 94 mph.
RSX Type S:
0-60 mph: 6.2 seconds
1/4-mile: 14.9 @ 95 mph.
BlazinChikn23 1 year ago
@BlazinChikn23
I see...wait, didn't RSX Type-S get a different engine after a certain model? I know the newer ones had K20Z1...yeah I think the 05-up models got the Z1, am I wrong?
y0h3s 1 year ago
@y0h3s
You are correct. K20Z1's were in the 05+ RSX Type S's rated @ 210 hp @ 7800 RPM. But I mean, 10 hp difference doesn't really feel any different behind the wheel.
K20A2 was 200 hp @ 7400 rpm. Both engines had the Vtec kick at 5800 rpm too.
BlazinChikn23 1 year ago
@y0h3s the 06+ civic is heavier than the 05-06 RSX-S by like 50lbs, and heavier than the 02-04 RSX-S by around 90lbs or more. the acura website no longer shows the 02-04 models, so i dont know their weight anymore.
06+Si: k20z3- 197hp 139tq
02-04 RSX-S: k20a2- 200hp 142tq
05-06 RSX-S: k20z1- 201hp 140tq
i know the other guy basically answered, i just thought id add a couple things. but i have a k20a2 swapped in my civic. id rather have more 2 more torque than gain 1 HP. lol
joescivic 1 year ago 2
@joescivic
Thanks for the details man.
Either way, having a K20 motor in light-weight Civic is the way to go.
I'm trying to re-build an EM2 Civic (junk after my friend blowing up the motor), and swap in the K20...wonder which K20 would be easiest to obtain...
y0h3s 1 year ago
@joescivic
I hope that K20A2 is a beast :D
I have an Em1 with B18C4..not fast enough..
BlazinChikn23 1 year ago
@BlazinChikn23 yeah, we have the same car basically, except mine is labled as a EJ8. but it looks just like the EM1 minus the fact that its silver. you can see it in one of my videos, and my background pic which is my old front lip. now i have an OEM Si lip. but yeah. its basically just a stock motor, and ive beaten b18c1 swapped civics, including my friends 93 hatch. oh, BTW, the k20z1 isnt really 210hp. its 201hp SAE corrected. whats the B18C4 come from? you in another country?
joescivic 1 year ago
@joescivic haha. im answering my own question. you're from Canada as i see on your channel. but when i said i beat my friends B18c1 93 hatch, i slowly walked it. those motors are still good though, especially if you're really light like his car. he now has a boosted Integra GSr with a JDM front end, so i cant rematch him =(
joescivic 1 year ago
@joescivic
Lmao, lots of questions :P
K20Z1 I looked up on wikipedia, according to what they said. EJ8's and Em1's are the same as you said..I just don't know why they would label it differently. the B18C4's come from the UK and AUS Civic 1.8 VTi's. I had it ordered from England. Paid $1,400 for it. Not bad, but the car is pretty slow. 169 hp. If ever you're in Toronto, let me know lol I'd like to see how I would do against a K20A2. I'm looking at changing my head to B16a..
BlazinChikn23 1 year ago
@BlazinChikn23 yeah, wikipedia aint always the best. its not updated,or entirely true. i still use it at times since some things are correct though. hah. but the EJ8 comes with a d16y8 singlecam motor, black side skirts instead of paint matched ones, no front lip like the EM1 (but i think you could have had the dealership put one on for you), very slightly different seats, and different guauge cluster. plus. EM1 only came in 99-00. EJ8 or als EJ7 came from 96-00. EM1 also come blue black and red
joescivic 1 year ago
@BlazinChikn23 god i hate character counts. lol. another thing, since mine is an EX, its EJ8. in Canada the Si is the EX here, so that would be your EJ8. what you have is the SiR. i know, the reasons they changed chassis codes is dumb if you ask me. making you Si the EX here, and our Si here is your SiR. lol. you should get rid of that motor you have, and pick up this k24a2 for $1600. located in texas. 200hp 166tq. you'll love a K. but im sure theres people there you can challenge with a K-swap
joescivic 1 year ago
@joescivic
I'm actually liking K swaps. I was wondering if this fact was true; K24 bottom with a K20 head, does that make 280 hp?
If it does, I'll be more than happy to experiment with it.
That K24A2 is pretty sick as well, maybe I'll look into itt. :D
BlazinChikn23 1 year ago
@BlazinChikn23 oh nooooo. it will still be 200hp. you can build the k24 to be all motor with over 300hp and still have 200+tq. cams kind of kill the torque you get. for example, theres a guy with an EM1 (k2499si in my favorites) with a k24a2, and he has 217hp 182tq. another video of a guy with 230hp 190tq. so yeah, to cam it afterwards, and everything else to get 100+hp but only like 20-30 more torque kind of sucks, but it will stil be a beast. im sure i would lose to a stock k24a2 swapped EJ8
joescivic 1 year ago
@Offroadhummer189 the rsx-S has a k20a2 or k20z1 and the Civic Si has the k20z3.
chubbong 1 year ago
@Offroadhummer189 k twizzle
Kapo465 1 year ago
@Offroadhummer189 lmao i was just gonna say that.
sycopath417 1 year ago
this seems about right same fucking car pretty much ... not sure what kind of mods are involved though
emau1 3 years ago
Cold air intake > short ram. Heat soak ftl.
ReviTgu 3 years ago
Not always. I live in upstate NY. It hardly gets above 80 in the summer and drops as low as -30 in the winter. SRI's are awesome in cold areas.
Metalhead852 3 years ago
dc5 was leading by a fender before the civic bailed out. dc5 wins.
marlo916 3 years ago
civic!!
14mike141589 3 years ago